Date: 19/10/2016 15:57:52
From: Speedy
ID: 970163
Subject: What was that roadkill?

On a recent holiday I saw a roadkill that looked different from the others. This was not a macropod, emu, echidna or any other thing I was familiar with. At first I thought it was a bilby so I went back to take a closer look. Yes, it was the right size. Yes, it was probably a marsupial. Yes, it had a thick white-tipped tail and cute little paws, but it was on a high-speed road with bends and I could hear a car in the distance, so I got back in the car and left. I did not see its head.

Still not sure what it was. Looking on-line, I can see that the area, near Mitchell QLD, is far from bilby habitat. I have today ordered a field guide for Australian mammals and will take a guess in a few days, but in the meantime, can you guess what could it have been?

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Date: 19/10/2016 15:59:35
From: furious
ID: 970166
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

chupacabra…

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Date: 19/10/2016 16:00:26
From: dv
ID: 970167
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

Speedy said:


On a recent holiday I saw a roadkill that looked different from the others. This was not a macropod, emu, echidna or any other thing I was familiar with. At first I thought it was a bilby so I went back to take a closer look. Yes, it was the right size. Yes, it was probably a marsupial. Yes, it had a thick white-tipped tail and cute little paws, but it was on a high-speed road with bends and I could hear a car in the distance, so I got back in the car and left. I did not see its head.

Still not sure what it was. Looking on-line, I can see that the area, near Mitchell QLD, is far from bilby habitat. I have today ordered a field guide for Australian mammals and will take a guess in a few days, but in the meantime, can you guess what could it have been?

Pretty difficult from this vague description. Did you take pics?

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Date: 19/10/2016 16:01:41
From: poikilotherm
ID: 970169
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

Speedy said:


On a recent holiday I saw a roadkill that looked different from the others. This was not a macropod, emu, echidna or any other thing I was familiar with. At first I thought it was a bilby so I went back to take a closer look. Yes, it was the right size. Yes, it was probably a marsupial. Yes, it had a thick white-tipped tail and cute little paws, but it was on a high-speed road with bends and I could hear a car in the distance, so I got back in the car and left. I did not see its head.

Still not sure what it was. Looking on-line, I can see that the area, near Mitchell QLD, is far from bilby habitat. I have today ordered a field guide for Australian mammals and will take a guess in a few days, but in the meantime, can you guess what could it have been?

Dead.

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Date: 19/10/2016 16:04:50
From: sarahs mum
ID: 970170
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

Speedy said:


On a recent holiday I saw a roadkill that looked different from the others. This was not a macropod, emu, echidna or any other thing I was familiar with. At first I thought it was a bilby so I went back to take a closer look. Yes, it was the right size. Yes, it was probably a marsupial. Yes, it had a thick white-tipped tail and cute little paws, but it was on a high-speed road with bends and I could hear a car in the distance, so I got back in the car and left. I did not see its head.

Still not sure what it was. Looking on-line, I can see that the area, near Mitchell QLD, is far from bilby habitat. I have today ordered a field guide for Australian mammals and will take a guess in a few days, but in the meantime, can you guess what could it have been?

bandicoot.

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Date: 19/10/2016 16:08:10
From: Divine Angel
ID: 970171
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

pygmy possum? rat?

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Date: 19/10/2016 16:10:50
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 970172
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

Donald Trumps Hair?

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Date: 19/10/2016 16:12:27
From: Speedy
ID: 970173
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

dv said:


Pretty difficult from this vague description. Did you take pics?

No pics, unfortunately.

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Date: 19/10/2016 16:13:12
From: Bubblecar
ID: 970174
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

Water rat?

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Date: 19/10/2016 16:16:17
From: Speedy
ID: 970175
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

sarahs mum said:


bandicoot.

Could have been, but I can’t find an on-line image of one with a white-tipped tail.

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Date: 19/10/2016 16:18:58
From: Speedy
ID: 970176
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

Bubblecar said:


Water rat?

!http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-JS2vLKJ1TCw/UWI5szMirWI/AAAAAAAAKOk/OwE16HlFq6Y/s1600/5+Water+Rat+1.jpg

I think its tail was shorter than that, but it was not far from a crossing over a river or waterhole.

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Date: 19/10/2016 16:22:44
From: Speedy
ID: 970177
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

Divine Angel said:


pygmy possum? rat?

It was definitely bigger than a pygmy possum.

Thinking back, I think its tail was tapered.

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Date: 19/10/2016 16:35:46
From: sarahs mum
ID: 970178
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

Speedy said:


sarahs mum said:

bandicoot.

Could have been, but I can’t find an on-line image of one with a white-tipped tail.

that’s because the one I was thinking about was the eastern barred. but it doesn’t exist where you are so..carry on.

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Date: 19/10/2016 16:37:37
From: dv
ID: 970179
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

sarahs mum said:


Speedy said:

sarahs mum said:

bandicoot.

Could have been, but I can’t find an on-line image of one with a white-tipped tail.

that’s because the one I was thinking about was the eastern barred. but it doesn’t exist where you are

it’s been … barred?

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Date: 19/10/2016 16:40:33
From: sarahs mum
ID: 970180
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

dv said:


sarahs mum said:

Speedy said:

Could have been, but I can’t find an on-line image of one with a white-tipped tail.

that’s because the one I was thinking about was the eastern barred. but it doesn’t exist where you are

it’s been … barred?

from the north and the west..yes.

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Date: 19/10/2016 17:27:39
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 970188
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

> thick white-tipped tail and cute little paws
> bigger than a pygmy possum

That sounds awfully like a ringtail to me.

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Date: 19/10/2016 17:40:35
From: Speedy
ID: 970190
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

mollwollfumble said:


> thick white-tipped tail and cute little paws
> bigger than a pygmy possum

That sounds awfully like a ringtail to me.

Yes, I think you’re right. I’ve had a look online and it’s the closest I’ve seen.

We get plenty of them here at home and when they are roadkill, it is easy to tell what they are from their tails, as they tend to curl. This one was not curled.

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Date: 24/10/2016 23:09:15
From: Speedy
ID: 972151
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

I have received the Mammals of Australia book but, so far, it provides no further clues.

A quick look though all of the species’ ranges and pictures seems to indicate that there is no match, not even the ring-tailed possum (as its range does not extend so far west).

The Water Rat seems likely; they can grow large, they have a white-tipped tail, this one was on the road near a river or waterhole and the area is part of their range.

Problem is that this animal had a stumpy tail, unlike a mouse or a rat. I have at times, however, seen what I thought I should see rather that what is actually there and this has been what I have “known”. I returned to this roadkill as I thought it was a bilby (which does not live there), so this one will remain unknown :)

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Date: 25/10/2016 07:48:15
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 972166
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

> not even the ring-tailed possum (as its range does not extend so far west)

That’s interesting. I didn’t know that it was limited to the east.

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Date: 25/10/2016 07:55:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 972168
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

mollwollfumble said:


> not even the ring-tailed possum (as its range does not extend so far west)

That’s interesting. I didn’t know that it was limited to the east.

Well there are none out here.

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Date: 25/10/2016 08:04:25
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 972170
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

Speedy said:


I have received the Mammals of Australia book but, so far, it provides no further clues.

A quick look though all of the species’ ranges and pictures seems to indicate that there is no match, not even the ring-tailed possum (as its range does not extend so far west).

The Water Rat seems likely; they can grow large, they have a white-tipped tail, this one was on the road near a river or waterhole and the area is part of their range.

Problem is that this animal had a stumpy tail, unlike a mouse or a rat. I have at times, however, seen what I thought I should see rather that what is actually there and this has been what I have “known”. I returned to this roadkill as I thought it was a bilby (which does not live there), so this one will remain unknown :)

There seem to be multiple different ringtail distribution maps on the web, with no real consistency between them. I’d better be sure that these are really ringtail maps. (Ahh, some of them aren’t of ringtails).

There is a “western ringtail possum”, but that’s limited to the coast around Albany, map below.

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Date: 25/10/2016 08:11:24
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 972173
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

I’d better kidnap some ringtails and move them out to your area then (LOL).

BTW, Had a “murder” in my front yard last week. No not just a flock of crows.
Our normal crows around here are the harmless (and sometimes vegetarian) Little Raven.

But last week two of the much larger Australian Ravens flew in and viciously attacked a ringtail possum in its nest above our side fence. From the look and sound of it, the Australian ravens killed it.

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Date: 25/10/2016 08:12:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 972174
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

mollwollfumble said:


I’d better kidnap some ringtails and move them out to your area then (LOL).

BTW, Had a “murder” in my front yard last week. No not just a flock of crows.
Our normal crows around here are the harmless (and sometimes vegetarian) Little Raven.

But last week two of the much larger Australian Ravens flew in and viciously attacked a ringtail possum in its nest above our side fence. From the look and sound of it, the Australian ravens killed it.

Probably wanted babies.

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Date: 25/10/2016 10:22:19
From: Speedy
ID: 972213
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

mollwollfumble said:


I’d better kidnap some ringtails and move them out to your area then (LOL).

BTW, Had a “murder” in my front yard last week. No not just a flock of crows.
Our normal crows around here are the harmless (and sometimes vegetarian) Little Raven.

But last week two of the much larger Australian Ravens flew in and viciously attacked a ringtail possum in its nest above our side fence. From the look and sound of it, the Australian ravens killed it.

They can be nasty. Not sure if I mentioned it here before, but on that same trip where we saw this roadkill, I saved a galah from a vicious attack by crows. By the time I had turned the car around, it was standing in the middle of a lane with a road train heading straight for it. It stood there, dazed, not trying to escape. The roadtrain ran over the top of it and as it rolled/tumbled off the road, it was just missed by a swerving 4WD which had been following the road train. I thought it was dead, but it stood up by the side of the road. I went back and grabbed it and checked its injuries. The attack must have just begun as it still had its eyes, but the surrounding area looked raw and bruised and the crows were still lurking. I could not leave it there, despite it promptly biting me a number of times in the hands. With dripping blood everywhere, I wrapped it in a towel and returned 10km to a town’s vet. Not sure what happened to it then, but it sounded like the staff were grateful that I had taken it there. Stoopid tourists must do stuff like this all the time.

The following day was the day we saved the orphan red joey which was being sandblown and buried alive.

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Date: 25/10/2016 10:23:38
From: Divine Angel
ID: 972214
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

That poor galah!

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Date: 25/10/2016 10:26:49
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 972217
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

White tip to its tail you say? it couldn’t be….a dead skunk. in the middle of the road…

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Date: 25/10/2016 10:28:38
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 972219
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

Speedy said:


mollwollfumble said:

I’d better kidnap some ringtails and move them out to your area then (LOL).

BTW, Had a “murder” in my front yard last week. No not just a flock of crows.
Our normal crows around here are the harmless (and sometimes vegetarian) Little Raven.

But last week two of the much larger Australian Ravens flew in and viciously attacked a ringtail possum in its nest above our side fence. From the look and sound of it, the Australian ravens killed it.

They can be nasty. Not sure if I mentioned it here before, but on that same trip where we saw this roadkill, I saved a galah from a vicious attack by crows. By the time I had turned the car around, it was standing in the middle of a lane with a road train heading straight for it. It stood there, dazed, not trying to escape. The roadtrain ran over the top of it and as it rolled/tumbled off the road, it was just missed by a swerving 4WD which had been following the road train. I thought it was dead, but it stood up by the side of the road. I went back and grabbed it and checked its injuries. The attack must have just begun as it still had its eyes, but the surrounding area looked raw and bruised and the crows were still lurking. I could not leave it there, despite it promptly biting me a number of times in the hands. With dripping blood everywhere, I wrapped it in a towel and returned 10km to a town’s vet. Not sure what happened to it then, but it sounded like the staff were grateful that I had taken it there. Stoopid tourists must do stuff like this all the time.

The following day was the day we saved the orphan red joey which was being sandblown and buried alive.

You sound like you need a cape.

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Date: 25/10/2016 10:28:59
From: Speedy
ID: 972220
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

Divine Angel said:


That poor galah!

Yes. I think it was a fledgling as there were other galahs (parents?) trying to stop the attack. I was sure to explain to the vet that it was still alive due to extreme luck, in the hope that they wouldn’t simply put it down. It seemed otherwise uninjured and healthy and I still have the remnants of a scar on my thumb to prove it :)

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Date: 25/10/2016 10:32:02
From: Divine Angel
ID: 972221
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

I happened to meet some of jennajones’ friends the other day at work. They too are bat rescuers and showed me some little cuties they had in the car.

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Date: 25/10/2016 10:34:24
From: Speedy
ID: 972222
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

Peak Warming Man said:


You sound like you need a cape.

I was telling a shopkeeper all about my heroic pursuits and she just shook her head and said, “We hate people like you”. The “saving” of the animal is the easy part. It’s the rehab and all the heartache associated with it that are the hard parts. She had been a wildlife carer but had given it up.

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Date: 25/10/2016 10:35:37
From: Speedy
ID: 972225
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

Divine Angel said:


I happened to meet some of jennajones’ friends the other day at work. They too are bat rescuers and showed me some little cuties they had in the car.

Wow, there’s a name I haven’t heard in a while :)

Bat rescuers are awesome.

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Date: 25/10/2016 10:42:03
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 972226
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

First Dog and C’Link

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Date: 25/10/2016 10:56:40
From: Ian
ID: 972231
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

ChrispenEvan said:


First Dog and C’Link

:)

More First Dog

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Date: 25/10/2016 11:05:05
From: Ian
ID: 972234
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

BTW birds are prone to drop dead quite easily from shock.

Canary I once had curled up its toes after having it for less than a week. I think more than one person looked at it at the same time.

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Date: 25/10/2016 11:05:15
From: Speedy
ID: 972235
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

Australian mammals are all awesome, but this is my favourite atm.

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Date: 25/10/2016 11:06:14
From: Divine Angel
ID: 972236
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

Ian said:


BTW birds are prone to drop dead quite easily from shock.

Canary I once had curled up its toes after having it for less than a week. I think more than one person looked at it at the same time.

Yep. Budgies are notorious for it. I’d only had Cheezburger a week or so when he carked it.

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Date: 25/10/2016 11:06:48
From: Speedy
ID: 972237
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

Ian said:


BTW birds are prone to drop dead quite easily from shock.

Yes. Our bird specialist says that once you notice your pet bird looking sick, it’s often too late. They go downhill fast.

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Date: 25/10/2016 11:07:31
From: Arts
ID: 972238
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

Speedy said:


!https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5308542ce4b0dd985a42b5ef/55c6088fe4b0eb14cde495a6/564984a7e4b08bab0a25368a/1447658778019/?format=750w

Australian mammals are all awesome, but this is my favourite atm.

its the WA state animal emblem.. the zoo breeds and rereleases them in Dryandra estate

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Date: 25/10/2016 11:08:01
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 972239
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

Speedy said:


Australian mammals are all awesome, but this is my favourite atm.

Certainly looks yummy.

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Date: 25/10/2016 11:09:08
From: Arts
ID: 972240
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

Peak Warming Man said:


Speedy said:

Australian mammals are all awesome, but this is my favourite atm.

Certainly looks yummy.

barely a meal in there.. five of them would be a Bubblecar light supper

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Date: 25/10/2016 11:14:28
From: Speedy
ID: 972246
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

Arts said:


its the WA state animal emblem.. the zoo breeds and rereleases them in Dryandra estate

:)

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Date: 25/10/2016 11:17:19
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 972249
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

Speedy said:


Arts said:

its the WA state animal emblem.. the zoo breeds and rereleases them in Dryandra estate

:)

on the agenda

https://www.facebook.com/events/1867011310188622/

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Date: 25/10/2016 11:18:24
From: Arts
ID: 972251
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

ChrispenEvan said:


Speedy said:

Arts said:

its the WA state animal emblem.. the zoo breeds and rereleases them in Dryandra estate

:)

on the agenda

https://www.facebook.com/events/1867011310188622/

yes, i wanted to go to that one.. a great cause… but I will be holidaying with friends oversea

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Date: 25/10/2016 11:20:41
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 972254
Subject: re: What was that roadkill?

Arts said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Speedy said:

:)

on the agenda

https://www.facebook.com/events/1867011310188622/

yes, i wanted to go to that one.. a great cause… but I will be holidaying with friends oversea

and i will be catching up to a friend i haven’t seen since the 80s. we were short on the table so i invited her and her hubby. we’ve only just reconnected via another mutual friend on FB.

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