Date: 25/07/2018 16:06:35
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1255860
Subject: Drone security

Just wondering about drones

Would a drone security service offer some protection for women walking home or to their cars ?

The drones would look for the users phones gps and follow them from above

They would have to be jam proof for obvious reasons.

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Date: 25/07/2018 16:24:57
From: party_pants
ID: 1255863
Subject: re: Drone security

How is the drone monitoring the person? Who is monitoring the drone? What exactly will the drone be able to do if someone grabbed the person and dragged her off into the bushes?

Bear in mind that having the drone armed with any offensive weapon is not permitted, even using the drone itself to attack kamikaze style is never going to be permitted.

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Date: 25/07/2018 16:26:45
From: Cymek
ID: 1255864
Subject: re: Drone security

Tau.Neutrino said:


Just wondering about drones

Would a drone security service offer some protection for women walking home or to their cars ?

The drones would look for the users phones gps and follow them from above

They would have to be jam proof for obvious reasons.

I can see drone expanding into this arena, they could be semiautonomous and alert authorities if something occurs and/or kamikaze dive at the assailant

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Date: 25/07/2018 16:29:18
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1255865
Subject: re: Drone security

Cymek said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Just wondering about drones

Would a drone security service offer some protection for women walking home or to their cars ?

The drones would look for the users phones gps and follow them from above

They would have to be jam proof for obvious reasons.

I can see drone expanding into this arena, they could be semiautonomous and alert authorities if something occurs and/or kamikaze dive at the assailant

Surely just knowing that the person is being monitored and a direct feed back to a computer somewhere would be a disincentive to do anything against the person. Use it on your kids when walking to school, gets to school gates or the bus and it whizzes back home to recharge.

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Date: 25/07/2018 16:33:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 1255866
Subject: re: Drone security

Cymek said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Just wondering about drones

Would a drone security service offer some protection for women walking home or to their cars ?

The drones would look for the users phones gps and follow them from above

They would have to be jam proof for obvious reasons.

I can see drone expanding into this arena, they could be semiautonomous and alert authorities if something occurs and/or kamikaze dive at the assailant

Not going to be much use unless the police have fighter drones on standby.

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Date: 25/07/2018 16:33:49
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1255867
Subject: re: Drone security

AwesomeO said:


Cymek said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Just wondering about drones

Would a drone security service offer some protection for women walking home or to their cars ?

The drones would look for the users phones gps and follow them from above

They would have to be jam proof for obvious reasons.

I can see drone expanding into this arena, they could be semiautonomous and alert authorities if something occurs and/or kamikaze dive at the assailant

Surely just knowing that the person is being monitored and a direct feed back to a computer somewhere would be a disincentive to do anything against the person. Use it on your kids when walking to school, gets to school gates or the bus and it whizzes back home to recharge.

You’d think that but extrapolating to say CCTV, CCTV doesn’t seem to do anything to crime rates, they stay ‘randomly fluctuating’.

“Five found a positive effect (decrease in offences) and three an undesirable effect (increase in crime), while in the remaining five evaluations there was no effect or evidence was unclear (Welsh & Farrington 2002: 13).”

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Date: 25/07/2018 16:34:10
From: party_pants
ID: 1255868
Subject: re: Drone security

You can’t a drone used offensively, even if controlled directly by a person remotely. Having the AI decide to do that autonomously is even a more remote chance of getting approved.

Why not just have more fixed cameras covering the streets. Inbuilt into every street light or something. People can just walk in the camera zone. Record 24/7 and keep the file for a week or two before erasing.

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Date: 25/07/2018 16:34:49
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1255870
Subject: re: Drone security

party_pants said:


How is the drone monitoring the person? Who is monitoring the drone? What exactly will the drone be able to do if someone grabbed the person and dragged her off into the bushes?

Bear in mind that having the drone armed with any offensive weapon is not permitted, even using the drone itself to attack kamikaze style is never going to be permitted.

>>How is the drone monitoring the person?

Visual and gps

>>Who is monitoring the drone?

A security service

>>What exactly will the drone be able to do if someone grabbed the person and dragged her off into the bushes?

Take recording and contact police

no kamikaze diving

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Date: 25/07/2018 16:36:40
From: party_pants
ID: 1255871
Subject: re: Drone security

Tau.Neutrino said:


party_pants said:

How is the drone monitoring the person? Who is monitoring the drone? What exactly will the drone be able to do if someone grabbed the person and dragged her off into the bushes?

Bear in mind that having the drone armed with any offensive weapon is not permitted, even using the drone itself to attack kamikaze style is never going to be permitted.

>>How is the drone monitoring the person?

Visual and gps

>>Who is monitoring the drone?

A security service

>>What exactly will the drone be able to do if someone grabbed the person and dragged her off into the bushes?

Take recording and contact police

no kamikaze diving

Can’t you just do that with fixed cameras and a smartphone app?

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Date: 25/07/2018 16:37:42
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1255872
Subject: re: Drone security

poikilotherm said:


AwesomeO said:

Cymek said:

I can see drone expanding into this arena, they could be semiautonomous and alert authorities if something occurs and/or kamikaze dive at the assailant

Surely just knowing that the person is being monitored and a direct feed back to a computer somewhere would be a disincentive to do anything against the person. Use it on your kids when walking to school, gets to school gates or the bus and it whizzes back home to recharge.

You’d think that but extrapolating to say CCTV, CCTV doesn’t seem to do anything to crime rates, they stay ‘randomly fluctuating’.

“Five found a positive effect (decrease in offences) and three an undesirable effect (increase in crime), while in the remaining five evaluations there was no effect or evidence was unclear (Welsh & Farrington 2002: 13).”

I would think a personal drone would be perceived differently to possible cameras at a shopfront. I think it will happen anyway, drones can already follow people, as prices come down someone will see a market in selling to parents guilt tripped about latch key kids and they will pay for an extra bit of security and reassurance.

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Date: 25/07/2018 16:38:49
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1255873
Subject: re: Drone security

party_pants said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

party_pants said:

How is the drone monitoring the person? Who is monitoring the drone? What exactly will the drone be able to do if someone grabbed the person and dragged her off into the bushes?

Bear in mind that having the drone armed with any offensive weapon is not permitted, even using the drone itself to attack kamikaze style is never going to be permitted.

>>How is the drone monitoring the person?

Visual and gps

>>Who is monitoring the drone?

A security service

>>What exactly will the drone be able to do if someone grabbed the person and dragged her off into the bushes?

Take recording and contact police

no kamikaze diving

Can’t you just do that with fixed cameras and a smartphone app?

Yes that will happen as well, the drones will extend that service further.

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Date: 25/07/2018 16:41:29
From: Cymek
ID: 1255875
Subject: re: Drone security

Tau.Neutrino said:


party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

>>How is the drone monitoring the person?

Visual and gps

>>Who is monitoring the drone?

A security service

>>What exactly will the drone be able to do if someone grabbed the person and dragged her off into the bushes?

Take recording and contact police

no kamikaze diving

Can’t you just do that with fixed cameras and a smartphone app?

Yes that will happen as well, the drones will extend that service further.

Fit them with a particle cannon or rail gun it’s the only way to be sure

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Date: 25/07/2018 16:43:32
From: party_pants
ID: 1255876
Subject: re: Drone security

Face recognition software and fixed cameras might offer a better alternative service. Especially if you set out cameras along a specified “safe path”.

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Date: 25/07/2018 16:45:30
From: Cymek
ID: 1255878
Subject: re: Drone security

party_pants said:


Face recognition software and fixed cameras might offer a better alternative service. Especially if you set out cameras along a specified “safe path”.

Or phones have a sensor and app that be used as a DNA sniffer to help identify an attack

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Date: 25/07/2018 16:47:44
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1255880
Subject: re: Drone security

Having your own robot security guard might be a better idea.

But they have been known to drown themselves.

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Date: 25/07/2018 16:48:07
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1255881
Subject: re: Drone security

party_pants said:


Face recognition software and fixed cameras might offer a better alternative service. Especially if you set out cameras along a specified “safe path”.

Drone cameras will work along side fixed cameras.

Yes, a safe path fitted with fixed cameras and a fast security response time.

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Date: 25/07/2018 16:48:27
From: party_pants
ID: 1255882
Subject: re: Drone security

Cymek said:


party_pants said:

Face recognition software and fixed cameras might offer a better alternative service. Especially if you set out cameras along a specified “safe path”.

Or phones have a sensor and app that be used as a DNA sniffer to help identify an attack

I’m thinking more along the lines of dramatically increasing the chances of catching the attacker after the event (thereby creating a deterrent), rather than physically intervening in an attack as it happens.

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Date: 25/07/2018 16:50:08
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1255883
Subject: re: Drone security

party_pants said:


Cymek said:

party_pants said:

Face recognition software and fixed cameras might offer a better alternative service. Especially if you set out cameras along a specified “safe path”.

Or phones have a sensor and app that be used as a DNA sniffer to help identify an attack

I’m thinking more along the lines of dramatically increasing the chances of catching the attacker after the event (thereby creating a deterrent), rather than physically intervening in an attack as it happens.

Response times are important to find the attacker. Faster the better.

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Date: 25/07/2018 16:50:44
From: party_pants
ID: 1255884
Subject: re: Drone security

party_pants said:


Cymek said:

party_pants said:

Face recognition software and fixed cameras might offer a better alternative service. Especially if you set out cameras along a specified “safe path”.

Or phones have a sensor and app that be used as a DNA sniffer to help identify an attack

I’m thinking more along the lines of dramatically increasing the chances of catching the attacker after the event (thereby creating a deterrent), rather than physically intervening in an attack as it happens.

To be used for all sorts of other crimes and anti-social behaviour, from graffiti and street-pissing to muggings and assualts.

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Date: 25/07/2018 16:51:31
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1255886
Subject: re: Drone security

Tau.Neutrino said:


party_pants said:

Cymek said:

Or phones have a sensor and app that be used as a DNA sniffer to help identify an attack

I’m thinking more along the lines of dramatically increasing the chances of catching the attacker after the event (thereby creating a deterrent), rather than physically intervening in an attack as it happens.

Response times are important to find the attacker. Faster the better.

A fast system would allow the police to also lock into the drones camera to see any crime.

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Date: 26/07/2018 03:13:26
From: transition
ID: 1256083
Subject: re: Drone security

Tau.Neutrino said:


Just wondering about drones

Would a drone security service offer some protection for women walking home or to their cars ?

The drones would look for the users phones gps and follow them from above

They would have to be jam proof for obvious reasons.

speaking of jam, I just spilt a heap of apricot going from the jar to the bread. I should wipe it up shortly, not leave it there until morning.

so like a friendly stalker then? Of the drone protecting the ladies.

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Date: 26/07/2018 21:58:46
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1256660
Subject: re: Drone security

but what if the stalker has his (or her or zie) own drone to stalk , to peer through the windows of a night in a non threatening way, watching always watching the steam rising on that unlocked window that you always meant to fix?

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Date: 26/07/2018 22:01:02
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1256662
Subject: re: Drone security

transition when are you going to change that wash cloth ?

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Date: 26/07/2018 23:24:21
From: transition
ID: 1256701
Subject: re: Drone security

wookiemeister said:


transition when are you going to change that wash cloth ?

:-)

after i’ve smeared jam on everything.

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