Speaking of the Magnolia, mine is next to a paved path and I read recently that even the small leaf Mags’ can still get to 10 meters ,eventually.
I need to find out , will it’s roots will lift the paving??
If so then I need to move it asap.
All trees will lift paths eventually., it is just that some lift paths more quickly than others.. To my knowledge magnolia in’t among the worst offenders.
roughbarked said:
All trees will lift paths eventually., it is just that some lift paths more quickly than others.. To my knowledge magnolia in’t among the worst offenders.
Ok thanks. I like the idea of it getting taller as then it will shade the pond more, but I don’t want it to lift the path.
What about Jacarandas? I thought they had non-invasive root systems?
How close is “next to”?
If you think about the soil, and then a tiny hair of a root from a tree starts to thicken up, it is going to get larger and therefore take up space… This taking up of space will possible condense locally the soil particles but eventually, something has to move, and this is normally the weakest part.
As the root or the trunk gets bigger, things will have to shift and sometimes, this means paving.
A root guard can deflect some roots, but even then, the root guard may get lifted causing an ugly sight…
Dinetta, it sounds like you’re fishing with the Jacaranda comment????
pain master said:
How close is “next to”?If you think about the soil, and then a tiny hair of a root from a tree starts to thicken up, it is going to get larger and therefore take up space… This taking up of space will possible condense locally the soil particles but eventually, something has to move, and this is normally the weakest part.
As the root or the trunk gets bigger, things will have to shift and sometimes, this means paving.
A root guard can deflect some roots, but even then, the root guard may get lifted causing an ugly sight…
Dinetta, it sounds like you’re fishing with the Jacaranda comment????
Erm.. the trunk is within 60 cm of the path… shrub is 1 mt high and 1 mt wide at the moment. It is right in the corner of the bulb bed and that corner is near the widest part of the path. I could make that part of the path narrower in future. If I had to.
60cms is pretty close. But with a small(ish) Magnolia, I doubt the movement in your pavers would be that drastic and I guess if you notice your pavers lifting, as drastic as it sounds, the size of the root you would have to chop off could mean that you could easily every now and then, lift that section of pavers, cut off the offending root and then relay.
This would probably only need doing every few years or so???
pain master said:
60cms is pretty close. But with a small(ish) Magnolia, I doubt the movement in your pavers would be that drastic and I guess if you notice your pavers lifting, as drastic as it sounds, the size of the root you would have to chop off could mean that you could easily every now and then, lift that section of pavers, cut off the offending root and then relay.This would probably only need doing every few years or so???
Oh I hope not , eg: not getting any younger. But I guess when that does happen then a root barrier could be installed at the time.
The shrub is so healthy and lush and in the right spot even given it’s eventual height, so I don’t wish to disturb it.
The scent wafts onto the patio when we are sitting out there. Beautiful.
with a very sharp spade every so often, you could sever any surface roots that comes near your pathway? It won’t cure your problem but it may ease any movement???
pain master said:
with a very sharp spade every so often, you could sever any surface roots that comes near your pathway? It won’t cure your problem but it may ease any movement???
That’s easier. Thanks PM :D
pain master said:
Dinetta, it sounds like you’re fishing with the Jacaranda comment????
Yes
Dinetta said:
pain master said:Dinetta, it sounds like you’re fishing with the Jacaranda comment????
Yes
I thought as much…
wum.
I beg yours?
wum = wind up merchant
pain master said:
wum = wind up merchant
Worth a try…you do have horticultural certificates and I don’t…
I’ve finally sorted out the problem of my magnolia tree and unfortunately it will have to go. Bugga.
I looked at every angle and initally decided it could stay but I omitted to notice one glaringly obvious thing, it’s an evergreen! Because of that and the height it will eventually get to, it will shade my mini orchard, not on. I would perfer to grow the food trees than the ornamental. I’ve put a lot of work into the mini orchard and I want it to be as healthy and productive as possible. The mag’s just in the wrong spot.
I will look up how to remove it and bag it without killing it and hopefully someone will want it. I’ll offer it to my local garden club.
It won’t get moved for a couple months at least, because of upcoming events, so I’ll have time to find out if someone would like it for their garden.
Happy Potter said:
I’ve finally sorted out the problem of my magnolia tree and unfortunately it will have to go. Bugga.
I looked at every angle and initally decided it could stay but I omitted to notice one glaringly obvious thing, it’s an evergreen! Because of that and the height it will eventually get to, it will shade my mini orchard, not on. I would perfer to grow the food trees than the ornamental. I’ve put a lot of work into the mini orchard and I want it to be as healthy and productive as possible. The mag’s just in the wrong spot.
I will look up how to remove it and bag it without killing it and hopefully someone will want it. I’ll offer it to my local garden club.
It won’t get moved for a couple months at least, because of upcoming events, so I’ll have time to find out if someone would like it for their garden.
That’s a shame, Happy Potter…I’ve not met a magnolia AFAIK, but my mother used to wear Helena Rubenstein’s “White magnolia” perfume…one of my favourites…
Dinetta said:
Happy Potter said:
I’ve finally sorted out the problem of my magnolia tree and unfortunately it will have to go. Bugga.
I looked at every angle and initally decided it could stay but I omitted to notice one glaringly obvious thing, it’s an evergreen! Because of that and the height it will eventually get to, it will shade my mini orchard, not on. I would perfer to grow the food trees than the ornamental. I’ve put a lot of work into the mini orchard and I want it to be as healthy and productive as possible. The mag’s just in the wrong spot.
I will look up how to remove it and bag it without killing it and hopefully someone will want it. I’ll offer it to my local garden club.
It won’t get moved for a couple months at least, because of upcoming events, so I’ll have time to find out if someone would like it for their garden.
That’s a shame, Happy Potter…I’ve not met a magnolia AFAIK, but my mother used to wear Helena Rubenstein’s “White magnolia” perfume…one of my favourites…
The scent is lovely Dinetta. I’m going to hate to see it go.
It’s my garden planning thats off.