Date: 27/07/2018 14:04:34
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1256919
Subject: Came Back to Life After 40,000 Years Frozen in Siberian Permafrost

>>Samples of permafrost sediment frozen for the past 40,000 years were recently thawed to reveal living nematodes.

Within weeks the roundworms began to move and eat, setting a record for the time an animal can survive cryogenic preservation.<<

>>Some of the worms – belonging to the genus Panagrolaimus – were found 30 metres (100 feet) underground in what had once been a ground squirrel burrow which caved in and froze over around 32,000 years ago.

Others from the genus Plectus were found in a bore sample at a depth of around 3.5 metres (about 11.5 feet). Carbon dating was used to determine that sample to be about 42,000 years old.<<

https://www.sciencealert.com/40-000-year-old-nematodes-revived-siberian-permafrost

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Date: 27/07/2018 14:10:17
From: Cymek
ID: 1256920
Subject: re: Came Back to Life After 40,000 Years Frozen in Siberian Permafrost

PermeateFree said:


>>Samples of permafrost sediment frozen for the past 40,000 years were recently thawed to reveal living nematodes.

Within weeks the roundworms began to move and eat, setting a record for the time an animal can survive cryogenic preservation.<<

>>Some of the worms – belonging to the genus Panagrolaimus – were found 30 metres (100 feet) underground in what had once been a ground squirrel burrow which caved in and froze over around 32,000 years ago.

Others from the genus Plectus were found in a bore sample at a depth of around 3.5 metres (about 11.5 feet). Carbon dating was used to determine that sample to be about 42,000 years old.<<

https://www.sciencealert.com/40-000-year-old-nematodes-revived-siberian-permafrost

Small worry I suppose a long frozen virus/bacteria is revived and is deadly

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Date: 27/07/2018 14:26:55
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1256928
Subject: re: Came Back to Life After 40,000 Years Frozen in Siberian Permafrost

PermeateFree said:


>>Samples of permafrost sediment frozen for the past 40,000 years were recently thawed to reveal living nematodes.

Within weeks the roundworms began to move and eat, setting a record for the time an animal can survive cryogenic preservation.<<

>>Some of the worms – belonging to the genus Panagrolaimus – were found 30 metres (100 feet) underground in what had once been a ground squirrel burrow which caved in and froze over around 32,000 years ago.

Others from the genus Plectus were found in a bore sample at a depth of around 3.5 metres (about 11.5 feet). Carbon dating was used to determine that sample to be about 42,000 years old.<<

https://www.sciencealert.com/40-000-year-old-nematodes-revived-siberian-permafrost

That’s interesting.

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Date: 27/07/2018 15:02:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 1256934
Subject: re: Came Back to Life After 40,000 Years Frozen in Siberian Permafrost

PermeateFree said:


>>Samples of permafrost sediment frozen for the past 40,000 years were recently thawed to reveal living nematodes.

Within weeks the roundworms began to move and eat, setting a record for the time an animal can survive cryogenic preservation.<<

>>Some of the worms – belonging to the genus Panagrolaimus – were found 30 metres (100 feet) underground in what had once been a ground squirrel burrow which caved in and froze over around 32,000 years ago.

Others from the genus Plectus were found in a bore sample at a depth of around 3.5 metres (about 11.5 feet). Carbon dating was used to determine that sample to be about 42,000 years old.<<

https://www.sciencealert.com/40-000-year-old-nematodes-revived-siberian-permafrost

How long did snowball earth last?

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Date: 27/07/2018 15:06:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 1256936
Subject: re: Came Back to Life After 40,000 Years Frozen in Siberian Permafrost

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

>>Samples of permafrost sediment frozen for the past 40,000 years were recently thawed to reveal living nematodes.

Within weeks the roundworms began to move and eat, setting a record for the time an animal can survive cryogenic preservation.<<

>>Some of the worms – belonging to the genus Panagrolaimus – were found 30 metres (100 feet) underground in what had once been a ground squirrel burrow which caved in and froze over around 32,000 years ago.

Others from the genus Plectus were found in a bore sample at a depth of around 3.5 metres (about 11.5 feet). Carbon dating was used to determine that sample to be about 42,000 years old.<<

https://www.sciencealert.com/40-000-year-old-nematodes-revived-siberian-permafrost

How long did snowball earth last?

Anyway, it was longer than 40,000 years and life came back.

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Date: 27/07/2018 15:20:25
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1256937
Subject: re: Came Back to Life After 40,000 Years Frozen in Siberian Permafrost

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

>>Samples of permafrost sediment frozen for the past 40,000 years were recently thawed to reveal living nematodes.

Within weeks the roundworms began to move and eat, setting a record for the time an animal can survive cryogenic preservation.<<

>>Some of the worms – belonging to the genus Panagrolaimus – were found 30 metres (100 feet) underground in what had once been a ground squirrel burrow which caved in and froze over around 32,000 years ago.

Others from the genus Plectus were found in a bore sample at a depth of around 3.5 metres (about 11.5 feet). Carbon dating was used to determine that sample to be about 42,000 years old.<<

https://www.sciencealert.com/40-000-year-old-nematodes-revived-siberian-permafrost

How long did snowball earth last?

Anyway, it was longer than 40,000 years and life came back.

Don’t think the seas froze to any depth.

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Date: 27/07/2018 15:25:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 1256939
Subject: re: Came Back to Life After 40,000 Years Frozen in Siberian Permafrost

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

How long did snowball earth last?

Anyway, it was longer than 40,000 years and life came back.

Don’t think the seas froze to any depth.

How deep were they?

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Date: 27/07/2018 15:34:56
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1256940
Subject: re: Came Back to Life After 40,000 Years Frozen in Siberian Permafrost

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

Anyway, it was longer than 40,000 years and life came back.

Don’t think the seas froze to any depth.

How deep were they?

Lets just say there was plenty of sea not frozen.

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Date: 27/07/2018 15:44:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 1256942
Subject: re: Came Back to Life After 40,000 Years Frozen in Siberian Permafrost

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Don’t think the seas froze to any depth.

How deep were they?

Lets just say there was plenty of sea not frozen.

Well there had to be some.

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Date: 27/07/2018 17:57:48
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1257046
Subject: re: Came Back to Life After 40,000 Years Frozen in Siberian Permafrost

PermeateFree said:


>>Samples of permafrost sediment frozen for the past 40,000 years were recently thawed to reveal living nematodes.

Within weeks the roundworms began to move and eat, setting a record for the time an animal can survive cryogenic preservation.<<

>>Some of the worms – belonging to the genus Panagrolaimus – were found 30 metres (100 feet) underground in what had once been a ground squirrel burrow which caved in and froze over around 32,000 years ago.

Others from the genus Plectus were found in a bore sample at a depth of around 3.5 metres (about 11.5 feet). Carbon dating was used to determine that sample to be about 42,000 years old.<<

https://www.sciencealert.com/40-000-year-old-nematodes-revived-siberian-permafrost

Oh excellent. That could mean that there’s no limitation to the survival time for cryogenic preservation of eukaryotic tissue.

I wonder what would happen if a similar test could be done on cryonic survival of the fauna of Lake Vostok, to see whether such survival is limited to nemotodes.

Lake Vostok animals include:

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Date: 27/07/2018 19:29:59
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1257088
Subject: re: Came Back to Life After 40,000 Years Frozen in Siberian Permafrost

mollwollfumble said:


PermeateFree said:

>>Samples of permafrost sediment frozen for the past 40,000 years were recently thawed to reveal living nematodes.

Within weeks the roundworms began to move and eat, setting a record for the time an animal can survive cryogenic preservation.<<

>>Some of the worms – belonging to the genus Panagrolaimus – were found 30 metres (100 feet) underground in what had once been a ground squirrel burrow which caved in and froze over around 32,000 years ago.

Others from the genus Plectus were found in a bore sample at a depth of around 3.5 metres (about 11.5 feet). Carbon dating was used to determine that sample to be about 42,000 years old.<<

https://www.sciencealert.com/40-000-year-old-nematodes-revived-siberian-permafrost

Oh excellent. That could mean that there’s no limitation to the survival time for cryogenic preservation of eukaryotic tissue.

I wonder what would happen if a similar test could be done on cryonic survival of the fauna of Lake Vostok, to see whether such survival is limited to nemotodes.

Lake Vostok animals include:

  • water flea
  • spingtail
  • tardigrade – already known to be quite hardy
  • rotifer
  • bivalve mollusc
  • sea anenome

Aren’t tardigrades also mentioned in the article as having something like 16,000 years suspended animation?

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