Date: 31/07/2018 13:46:41
From: Arts
ID: 1258170
Subject: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

there are more… https://imgur.com/gallery/nIaetMP

the man is a genius

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Date: 31/07/2018 14:03:34
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1258189
Subject: re: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

He forgot about sliding usb ports on TVs

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Date: 31/07/2018 14:16:20
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1258200
Subject: re: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

Tau.Neutrino said:


He forgot about sliding usb ports on TVs

Sliding charging ports on electric cars might be a good idea

Fixed by wireless charging.

Could you use lasers beams to charge batteries ?

or a high energy RF beam ?

A high energy RF beam made for charging could keep drones in the air for longer periods.

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Date: 31/07/2018 14:18:09
From: Cymek
ID: 1258201
Subject: re: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

He forgot about sliding usb ports on TVs

Sliding charging ports on electric cars might be a good idea

Fixed by wireless charging.

Could you use lasers beams to charge batteries ?

or a high energy RF beam ?

A high energy RF beam made for charging could keep drones in the air for longer periods.

They need to be in line of sight wouldn’t they
I wonder if solar panels on the drone could charge a drone in flight

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Date: 31/07/2018 14:41:43
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1258226
Subject: re: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

Cymek said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

He forgot about sliding usb ports on TVs

Sliding charging ports on electric cars might be a good idea

Fixed by wireless charging.

Could you use lasers beams to charge batteries ?

or a high energy RF beam ?

A high energy RF beam made for charging could keep drones in the air for longer periods.

They need to be in line of sight wouldn’t they
I wonder if solar panels on the drone could charge a drone in flight

Yes

see

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_aircraft

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Solar-powered_aircraft

here is a solar powered drone

http://www.iflscience.com/technology/solar-powered-drone-could-fly-nonstop-five-years/

here is interesting article

Australia chosen as base for solar-powered drone

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Date: 31/07/2018 14:49:22
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1258236
Subject: re: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

I wonder if satellites could be recharged by high energy lasers or high energy RF beams?

If you could use a laser to knock on one out then why not for recharging one ?

The exterior conductive metal of either a drone or a satellite could be designed to absorb a beam up to a certain energy level.

The same level needed to recharge the internal battery.

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Date: 31/07/2018 14:51:29
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1258238
Subject: re: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

Tau.Neutrino said:

I wonder if satellites could be recharged by high energy lasers or high energy RF beams?

If you could use a laser to knock on one out then why not for recharging one ?

The exterior conductive metal of either a drone or a satellite could be designed to absorb a beam up to a certain energy level.

The same level needed to recharge the internal battery.

Well people have proposed such means to transfer solar generated electricity from orbit to Earth, so presumably it could go the other way.

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Date: 31/07/2018 14:54:41
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1258243
Subject: re: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tau.Neutrino said:
I wonder if satellites could be recharged by high energy lasers or high energy RF beams?

If you could use a laser to knock on one out then why not for recharging one ?

The exterior conductive metal of either a drone or a satellite could be designed to absorb a beam up to a certain energy level.

The same level needed to recharge the internal battery.

Well people have proposed such means to transfer solar generated electricity from orbit to Earth, so presumably it could go the other way.

Tracking technology has improved so much.

Its possible now to design a complete system

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Date: 31/07/2018 14:54:58
From: Cymek
ID: 1258244
Subject: re: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tau.Neutrino said:
I wonder if satellites could be recharged by high energy lasers or high energy RF beams?

If you could use a laser to knock on one out then why not for recharging one ?

The exterior conductive metal of either a drone or a satellite could be designed to absorb a beam up to a certain energy level.

The same level needed to recharge the internal battery.

Well people have proposed such means to transfer solar generated electricity from orbit to Earth, so presumably it could go the other way.

They’d have to be geostationary wouldn’t they

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Date: 31/07/2018 15:10:13
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1258266
Subject: re: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

Cymek said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:
I wonder if satellites could be recharged by high energy lasers or high energy RF beams?

If you could use a laser to knock on one out then why not for recharging one ?

The exterior conductive metal of either a drone or a satellite could be designed to absorb a beam up to a certain energy level.

The same level needed to recharge the internal battery.

Well people have proposed such means to transfer solar generated electricity from orbit to Earth, so presumably it could go the other way.

They’d have to be geostationary wouldn’t they

It might not matter, depends on the charging time.

and how efficient the technology can become

there will be losses, these will improve over time.

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Date: 31/07/2018 15:19:52
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1258274
Subject: re: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

If all satellites had that capability then they could pass energy around to other devices in space.

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Date: 31/07/2018 15:23:30
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1258276
Subject: re: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

Tau.Neutrino said:


If all satellites had that capability then they could pass energy around to other devices in space.

Possibly even to eventually recharge Elon’s Tesla electric car in space.

by Elon’s cult following in two thousand years time ?

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Date: 31/07/2018 15:25:51
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1258278
Subject: re: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

If all satellites had that capability then they could pass energy around to other devices in space.

Possibly even to eventually recharge Elon’s Tesla electric car in space.

by Elon’s cult following in two thousand years time ?

Maybe sooner ?

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Date: 31/07/2018 15:27:36
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1258279
Subject: re: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

If all satellites had that capability then they could pass energy around to other devices in space.

Possibly even to eventually recharge Elon’s Tesla electric car in space.

by Elon’s cult following in two thousand years time ?

I doubt that car has batteries.

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Date: 31/07/2018 15:36:17
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1258282
Subject: re: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

JudgeMental said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

If all satellites had that capability then they could pass energy around to other devices in space.

Possibly even to eventually recharge Elon’s Tesla electric car in space.

by Elon’s cult following in two thousand years time ?

I doubt that car has batteries.

https://www.quora.com/SpaceX-launched-a-Tesla-car-into-space-Were-the-batteries-and-motor-installed-in-the-car

It does a tiny battery to play space oddity on a loop.

Interesting discussion about lithium batteries exploding.

What sort of batteries do they put in satellites ?

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Date: 31/07/2018 15:39:38
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1258283
Subject: re: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

What sort of batteries do they put in satellites ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batteries_in_space

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Date: 31/07/2018 15:49:23
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1258288
Subject: re: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

> The man is a genius.

Yes, but not because he comes up with off-beat ideas like these. The genius is in selecting the best, getting the manufacturing completed and selling the things.

I like the sliding wall electrical outlets. They so often interfere with furniture or don’t have sufficient capacity.

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Date: 31/07/2018 15:54:47
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1258292
Subject: re: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

Tau.Neutrino said:


If all satellites had that capability then they could pass energy around to other devices in space.

Woohoo. Death ray.

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Date: 31/07/2018 15:56:09
From: sibeen
ID: 1258293
Subject: re: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

mollwollfumble said:


> The man is a genius.

Yes, but not because he comes up with off-beat ideas like these. The genius is in selecting the best, getting the manufacturing completed and selling the things.

I like the sliding wall electrical outlets. They so often interfere with furniture or don’t have sufficient capacity.

Yeah sliding wall electrical outlets are a great idea and will only increase the cost of the electrical installation by an order of magnitude.

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Date: 31/07/2018 15:57:04
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1258294
Subject: re: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

mollwollfumble said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

If all satellites had that capability then they could pass energy around to other devices in space.

Woohoo. Death ray.

Laser transmitters and laser receivers

How much energy can a laser receiver absorb ?

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Date: 31/07/2018 16:01:04
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1258295
Subject: re: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

sibeen said:


mollwollfumble said:

> The man is a genius.

Yes, but not because he comes up with off-beat ideas like these. The genius is in selecting the best, getting the manufacturing completed and selling the things.

I like the sliding wall electrical outlets. They so often interfere with furniture or don’t have sufficient capacity.

Yeah sliding wall electrical outlets are a great idea and will only increase the cost of the electrical installation by an order of magnitude.

I like the pop up usb receptacles i kitchen bench tops

I would design a smaller one, that one is too big.

another type

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Date: 31/07/2018 16:04:50
From: Cymek
ID: 1258296
Subject: re: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

Tau.Neutrino said:


sibeen said:

mollwollfumble said:

> The man is a genius.

Yes, but not because he comes up with off-beat ideas like these. The genius is in selecting the best, getting the manufacturing completed and selling the things.

I like the sliding wall electrical outlets. They so often interfere with furniture or don’t have sufficient capacity.

Yeah sliding wall electrical outlets are a great idea and will only increase the cost of the electrical installation by an order of magnitude.

I like the pop up usb receptacles i kitchen bench tops

I would design a smaller one, that one is too big.

another type

Shouldn’t electrical outlets been in awkward hard to reach places that require you to crawl under things or twist uncomfortable to reach them

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Date: 31/07/2018 16:07:27
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1258297
Subject: re: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

Arts said:

the man is a genius

I’ve had various ideas about TV stations.

A TV station that only screens 3-D movies, including only 3-D ads. You watch with red-green glasses that you can make yourself or buy.

A countdown clock to tell watchers how many seconds of ads are left. Either on the TV station or sold after-market using artificial intelligence.

TV ads limited to text messages (like Google search home page only allows text message ads).

Or TV ads limited to a single video camera shot.

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Date: 31/07/2018 16:16:36
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1258299
Subject: re: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

mollwollfumble said:


Arts said:

the man is a genius

I’ve had various ideas about TV stations.

A TV station that only screens 3-D movies, including only 3-D ads. You watch with red-green glasses that you can make yourself or buy.

A countdown clock to tell watchers how many seconds of ads are left. Either on the TV station or sold after-market using artificial intelligence.

TV ads limited to text messages (like Google search home page only allows text message ads).

Or TV ads limited to a single video camera shot.

>>>TV ads limited to text messages (like Google search home page only allows text message ads).

I like that idea. I have never liked the sound of TV ads due to sensory overload in hearing that I have.

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Date: 31/07/2018 16:23:26
From: party_pants
ID: 1258303
Subject: re: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

Oh nowe I get it!

move Elon = move along

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Date: 31/07/2018 16:29:38
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1258304
Subject: re: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

>>>A countdown clock to tell watchers how many seconds of ads are left. Either on the TV station or sold after-market using artificial intelligence.

That’s another good idea, then tv shows could be recorded with or without ads.

An invisible countclock as part of the transmission

Clocks are part of radio and tv transmission there for syncing etc

The recorder could look at the countdown clock for ads and know when to start the recording.

While another count down clock could be added into the movie to stop recording the movie when the ads come on.

That would need regulation, because they would never do it voluntarily

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Date: 31/07/2018 20:45:09
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1258416
Subject: re: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

>>>I wonder if satellites could be recharged by high energy lasers or high energy RF beams?

what about using laser transmitters and laser receivers

Have a laser receiver built into the satellite and a ground station fires the laser at the laser receiver on the satellite

and recharge the rechargeable batteries that way

note this is when you want more power than what the solar panels can provide

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Date: 2/08/2018 08:36:50
From: Ian
ID: 1258897
Subject: re: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

sibeen said:


mollwollfumble said:

> The man is a genius.

Yes, but not because he comes up with off-beat ideas like these. The genius is in selecting the best, getting the manufacturing completed and selling the things.

I like the sliding wall electrical outlets. They so often interfere with furniture or don’t have sufficient capacity.

Yeah sliding wall electrical outlets are a great idea and will only increase the cost of the electrical installation by an order of magnitude.

How much are these sort of power rails being used?
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Date: 5/08/2018 21:32:11
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1260171
Subject: re: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

Thinking further on this, I’ve figured out an algorithm to ad-block on free to air TV.

The algorithm would compress a video – audio frame on the fly, like a checksum, and compare it with the first frame of earlier ads. When a match is found, replace the ad with whatever the watcher desires.

There would be several ways to fool it.

But those problems would be negligible. The ad blocker would reside within the set top box or HDTV, to work independently of selected aspect ratio and mute button. Or could go between the set top box and TV if aspect ratio and mute button are not an issue.

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Date: 6/08/2018 11:11:30
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1260243
Subject: re: Move Elon people, nothing to see here

mollwollfumble said:


Thinking further on this, I’ve figured out an algorithm to ad-block on free to air TV.

The algorithm would compress a video – audio frame on the fly, like a checksum, and compare it with the first frame of earlier ads. When a match is found, replace the ad with whatever the watcher desires.

There would be several ways to fool it.

  • changing channels into the middle of an ad you’d see about half a second of the ad before it cuts out.
  • where ads for TV programs contain a segment of that program, eg on ABC, the ad blocker may or may not suppress that duplicate part of the program, depending on how the ad was made.
  • The first occurrence of the ad passes through the ad blocker. It only blocks the repeats of the ads.

But those problems would be negligible. The ad blocker would reside within the set top box or HDTV, to work independently of selected aspect ratio and mute button. Or could go between the set top box and TV if aspect ratio and mute button are not an issue.

mollwollfumble’s ad blocker for free to air TV. In pseudocode.
“alternative” is the the alternative program to play during ad breaks. eg. mute, play music, or switch between channels.

There are two processors:

Synchronous processor:

constants tol, tol1 set to 1%, 0.1%

initialise:
sumr0=sumg0=sumb0=0
previousframe=empty
blocked=false
option2=true ! block second occurrence of ad, if false block third occurrence of ad, user selectable

Get newframe {
start=false
sumr=sumg=sumb=0
For each r,g,b pixel {
sumr=sumr+r
sumg=sumg+g
sumb=sumb+b
}
if (abs(sumr-sumr0)>tol) {start=true}
else if (abs(sumg-sumg0)>tol) {start=true}
else if (abs(sumb-sumb0)>tol) {start=true}
if(not blocked) display previousframe
else display alternative
previousframe=newframe
}

Asynchronous processor:

On occurrence of interrupt start
start=false
startframe=newframe
for each knownad {
if (abs(startframe.sumr-knownad.sumr)>tol1) next
if (abs(startframe.sumg-knownad.sumg)>tol1) next
if (abs(startframe.sumb-knownad.sumb)>tol1) next
! found match to known ad
blocked=true
wait for next interrupt
}
! no match to known ad, start search for unknown ad
blocked=false ! innocent until proved guilty
for each oldstart {
if (abs(startframe.sumr-oldstart.sumr)>tol1) next
if (abs(startframe.sumg-oldstart.sumg)>tol1) next
if (abs(startframe.sumb-oldstart.sumb)>tol1) next
! found new ad
if option2 {blocked=true}
if (number of knownad = 10,000) {
delete oldest knownad
! replace with newest knownad (cyclic storage with a pointer to oldest)
knownad.sumr=oldstart.sumr
knownad.sumg=oldstart.sumg
knownad.sumb=oldstart.sumb
increment pointer oldest knownad
wait for next interrupt
}
! not a new ad
if (number of oldstart = 1,000,000) {
delete oldest oldstart
oldstart.sumr=startframe.sumr
oldstart.sumg=startframe.sumg
oldstart.sumb=startframe.sumb
increment pointer oldest oldstart
wait for next interrupt
}

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