Date: 1/08/2018 10:55:18
From: Cymek
ID: 1258551
Subject: Attracting native bees

Are they around in suburbia ?
I occasionally see one but mostly your standard honey bee.
If you build a home for them will they use it ?
Are they around but just not noticed in large numbers or do they rarely exist in suburban areas

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Date: 1/08/2018 10:57:37
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1258552
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

Cymek said:


Are they around in suburbia ?
I occasionally see one but mostly your standard honey bee.
If you build a home for them will they use it ?
Are they around but just not noticed in large numbers or do they rarely exist in suburban areas

do you have roses? if so have they little semi-circle cut out from their leaves? those are native bees doing that.

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Date: 1/08/2018 10:58:50
From: Cymek
ID: 1258553
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

JudgeMental said:


Cymek said:

Are they around in suburbia ?
I occasionally see one but mostly your standard honey bee.
If you build a home for them will they use it ?
Are they around but just not noticed in large numbers or do they rarely exist in suburban areas

do you have roses? if so have they little semi-circle cut out from their leaves? those are native bees doing that.

We do and I’ll check but are sure I’ve seen it.
That’s good then.

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Date: 1/08/2018 10:59:16
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1258554
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

Cymek said:


Are they around in suburbia ?
I occasionally see one but mostly your standard honey bee.
If you build a home for them will they use it ?
Are they around but just not noticed in large numbers or do they rarely exist in suburban areas

https://www.aussiebee.com.au/beesinyourarea.html

http://beeaware.org.au/pollination/native-bees/supporting-native-bee-populations/

https://sugarbag.net/

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Date: 1/08/2018 10:59:53
From: Cymek
ID: 1258555
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

poikilotherm said:


Cymek said:

Are they around in suburbia ?
I occasionally see one but mostly your standard honey bee.
If you build a home for them will they use it ?
Are they around but just not noticed in large numbers or do they rarely exist in suburban areas

https://www.aussiebee.com.au/beesinyourarea.html

http://beeaware.org.au/pollination/native-bees/supporting-native-bee-populations/

https://sugarbag.net/

Thanks, I’m looking at some websites now

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Date: 1/08/2018 11:08:04
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1258557
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

There’s both native and European bees at the redoubt, there is a constant hum around the applebox trees when they are in flower.

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Date: 1/08/2018 11:08:25
From: sibeen
ID: 1258558
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

There ya go, my learnin for the day. Over 1600 species of native bees.

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Date: 1/08/2018 11:55:19
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1258575
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

I get a few native bees around my alyssum flowers.

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Date: 1/08/2018 13:32:30
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1258622
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

Most native bees live in very small colonies and sometimes alone, a hollow stem of a shrub is commonly called home.

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Date: 1/08/2018 14:20:01
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1258639
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

poikilotherm said:


Cymek said:

Are they around in suburbia ?
I occasionally see one but mostly your standard honey bee.
If you build a home for them will they use it ?
Are they around but just not noticed in large numbers or do they rarely exist in suburban areas

https://www.aussiebee.com.au/beesinyourarea.html

http://beeaware.org.au/pollination/native-bees/supporting-native-bee-populations/

https://sugarbag.net/

Haven’t seen any around Melbourne. I’ll look up some urban wildlife books.

“Melbourne’s wildlife”
Blue banded bee – throughout Australia
Alkaline or native sweat bees – throughout Australia
Reed bee – SE Australia

“Wildlife of the Brisbane Area”
- doesn’t list any bees, beetles, wasps etc.

“A field guide to Insects of Australia”
Family Colletidae, short tongued bees – over half of all Australian bee species
Family Halictidae, burrowing bees – 382 species
Family Megachilidae – 170 species
Family Apidae – include sugar bag, sweat, banded and carpenter bees
Pictures are of “teddy bear bee”, neon cuckoo bee, yellow carpenter bee, sweat bee = sugar bag bee, leafcutter bee, gold-tipped leafcutter bee.

In Cairns botanic gardens I saw a carpenter bee.

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Date: 1/08/2018 14:21:32
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1258641
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

mollwollfumble said:


poikilotherm said:

Cymek said:

Are they around in suburbia ?
I occasionally see one but mostly your standard honey bee.
If you build a home for them will they use it ?
Are they around but just not noticed in large numbers or do they rarely exist in suburban areas

https://www.aussiebee.com.au/beesinyourarea.html

http://beeaware.org.au/pollination/native-bees/supporting-native-bee-populations/

https://sugarbag.net/

Haven’t seen any around Melbourne. I’ll look up some urban wildlife books.

“Melbourne’s wildlife”
Blue banded bee – throughout Australia
Alkaline or native sweat bees – throughout Australia
Reed bee – SE Australia

“Wildlife of the Brisbane Area”
- doesn’t list any bees, beetles, wasps etc.

“A field guide to Insects of Australia”
Family Colletidae, short tongued bees – over half of all Australian bee species
Family Halictidae, burrowing bees – 382 species
Family Megachilidae – 170 species
Family Apidae – include sugar bag, sweat, banded and carpenter bees
Pictures are of “teddy bear bee”, neon cuckoo bee, yellow carpenter bee, sweat bee = sugar bag bee, leafcutter bee, gold-tipped leafcutter bee.

In Cairns botanic gardens I saw a carpenter bee.

Won’t find sugarbags south of Coffs Harbour without artificial help iirc.

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Date: 1/08/2018 15:59:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 1258685
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

poikilotherm said:


mollwollfumble said:

poikilotherm said:

https://www.aussiebee.com.au/beesinyourarea.html

http://beeaware.org.au/pollination/native-bees/supporting-native-bee-populations/

https://sugarbag.net/

Haven’t seen any around Melbourne. I’ll look up some urban wildlife books.

“Melbourne’s wildlife”
Blue banded bee – throughout Australia
Alkaline or native sweat bees – throughout Australia
Reed bee – SE Australia

“Wildlife of the Brisbane Area”
- doesn’t list any bees, beetles, wasps etc.

“A field guide to Insects of Australia”
Family Colletidae, short tongued bees – over half of all Australian bee species
Family Halictidae, burrowing bees – 382 species
Family Megachilidae – 170 species
Family Apidae – include sugar bag, sweat, banded and carpenter bees
Pictures are of “teddy bear bee”, neon cuckoo bee, yellow carpenter bee, sweat bee = sugar bag bee, leafcutter bee, gold-tipped leafcutter bee.

In Cairns botanic gardens I saw a carpenter bee.

Won’t find sugarbags south of Coffs Harbour without artificial help iirc.

And they don’t like living further south even with encouragement.

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Date: 1/08/2018 16:02:51
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1258687
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

roughbarked said:


poikilotherm said:

mollwollfumble said:

Haven’t seen any around Melbourne. I’ll look up some urban wildlife books.

“Melbourne’s wildlife”
Blue banded bee – throughout Australia
Alkaline or native sweat bees – throughout Australia
Reed bee – SE Australia

“Wildlife of the Brisbane Area”
- doesn’t list any bees, beetles, wasps etc.

“A field guide to Insects of Australia”
Family Colletidae, short tongued bees – over half of all Australian bee species
Family Halictidae, burrowing bees – 382 species
Family Megachilidae – 170 species
Family Apidae – include sugar bag, sweat, banded and carpenter bees
Pictures are of “teddy bear bee”, neon cuckoo bee, yellow carpenter bee, sweat bee = sugar bag bee, leafcutter bee, gold-tipped leafcutter bee.

In Cairns botanic gardens I saw a carpenter bee.

Won’t find sugarbags south of Coffs Harbour without artificial help iirc.

And they don’t like living further south even with encouragement.

Would a slight degree change in their hive cheer them up ?

The same degree change as where they are happy ?

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Date: 1/08/2018 16:13:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 1258690
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

Tau.Neutrino said:


roughbarked said:

poikilotherm said:

Won’t find sugarbags south of Coffs Harbour without artificial help iirc.

And they don’t like living further south even with encouragement.

Would a slight degree change in their hive cheer them up ?

The same degree change as where they are happy ?

Why would they leave the hive if it was -5 outside the door?

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Date: 1/08/2018 16:51:20
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1258699
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

roughbarked said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

And they don’t like living further south even with encouragement.

Would a slight degree change in their hive cheer them up ?

The same degree change as where they are happy ?

Why would they leave the hive if it was -5 outside the door?

Has it been tried ?

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Date: 1/08/2018 16:57:44
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1258701
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

Tau.Neutrino said:


roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Would a slight degree change in their hive cheer them up ?

The same degree change as where they are happy ?

Why would they leave the hive if it was -5 outside the door?

Has it been tried ?

Maybe give the bees some warm clothes to wear.

Teach them how to get in and out of them.

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Date: 1/08/2018 16:59:09
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1258702
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

Why would they leave the hive if it was -5 outside the door?

Has it been tried ?

Maybe give the bees some warm clothes to wear.

Teach them how to get in and out of them.

Make them very light so the bees can still fly in them, with a full pollen load.

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Date: 1/08/2018 17:08:31
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1258704
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Has it been tried ?

Maybe give the bees some warm clothes to wear.

Teach them how to get in and out of them.

Make them very light so the bees can still fly in them, with a full pollen load.

I wonder if bees could be taught that?

They have been taught other tricks in finding food.

A trick that leads to food might be the key.

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Date: 1/08/2018 17:09:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 1258706
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

Tau.Neutrino said:


roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Would a slight degree change in their hive cheer them up ?

The same degree change as where they are happy ?

Why would they leave the hive if it was -5 outside the door?

Has it been tried ?

Yes. There are many native bees thta do livee in the southern parts of Australia but they don’t make honey and few of them are more than solitary.

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Date: 1/08/2018 17:10:44
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1258707
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

roughbarked said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

Why would they leave the hive if it was -5 outside the door?

Has it been tried ?

Yes. There are many native bees thta do livee in the southern parts of Australia but they don’t make honey and few of them are more than solitary.

ok, and that lead to unhappy bees.

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Date: 1/08/2018 17:13:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 1258708
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

Tau.Neutrino said:


roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Has it been tried ?

Yes. There are many native bees thta do livee in the southern parts of Australia but they don’t make honey and few of them are more than solitary.

ok, and that lead to unhappy bees.

I don’t think you know a lot about bees of any kind.

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Date: 1/08/2018 17:15:42
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1258709
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

roughbarked said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

Yes. There are many native bees thta do livee in the southern parts of Australia but they don’t make honey and few of them are more than solitary.

ok, and that lead to unhappy bees.

I don’t think you know a lot about bees of any kind.

Is this better.

Australia needs to plant more native plants which the bees are attracted to.

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Date: 1/08/2018 17:16:45
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1258710
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

I’m not a bee keeper.

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Date: 1/08/2018 17:20:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 1258712
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

Tau.Neutrino said:


roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

ok, and that lead to unhappy bees.

I don’t think you know a lot about bees of any kind.

Is this better.

Australia needs to plant more native plants which the bees are attracted to.

Yes. It is true too. Not that it will eencourage northern bees to move south.

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Date: 1/08/2018 17:25:49
From: roughbarked
ID: 1258714
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

The main point is that European bees were suddnly in haven when they came to Australia. These are out there in feral numbers thta way dwarf those numbers of feral cats and they are a real pest to native flora and fauna.

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Date: 1/08/2018 19:39:27
From: buffy
ID: 1258752
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

If anyone wants some more information:

https://www.aussiebee.com.au/beesinyourarea.html

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Date: 1/08/2018 19:43:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 1258755
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

buffy said:

If anyone wants some more information:

https://www.aussiebee.com.au/beesinyourarea.html

That’s a good link.

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Date: 1/08/2018 19:55:05
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1258771
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

buffy said:

If anyone wants some more information:

https://www.aussiebee.com.au/beesinyourarea.html

Thanks, nice site.

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Date: 1/08/2018 19:58:17
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1258775
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

Tasmania doesn’t have any teddy bear bees :/

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Date: 1/08/2018 20:01:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 1258778
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

Bubblecar said:


Tasmania doesn’t have any teddy bear bees :/

They are here though. I have leafcutter and blue banded and cuckoo plus others I haven’t properly found an Id because maybe I don’t see them so otten when I’ve got a camera with me.

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Date: 1/08/2018 20:35:19
From: ruby
ID: 1258793
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

If you want to attract native bees, then plant as many plants in the Lamiaceae family as you can. Luckily these plants are yummy to us and smell good too. Basil, mint, lemon balm, rosemary, thyme, the sages, coleus….lots of good ones and the bees really like them. I get blue banded bees, leaf cutters, honey bees, and teddy bear bees. The teddy bear bees like doing a lap around the inside of the house when it’s warm, and will buzz down to say hello.
Sadly I don’t have Tetragonula yet. I have asked my friendly tree lopper to save them if he sees any. There used to be lots at my work till they decided to start a regular insecticide regime. They never returned.

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Date: 1/08/2018 20:40:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 1258794
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

ruby said:


If you want to attract native bees, then plant as many plants in the Lamiaceae family as you can. Luckily these plants are yummy to us and smell good too. Basil, mint, lemon balm, rosemary, thyme, the sages, coleus….lots of good ones and the bees really like them. I get blue banded bees, leaf cutters, honey bees, and teddy bear bees. The teddy bear bees like doing a lap around the inside of the house when it’s warm, and will buzz down to say hello.
Sadly I don’t have Tetragonula yet. I have asked my friendly tree lopper to save them if he sees any. There used to be lots at my work till they decided to start a regular insecticide regime. They never returned.

I have to agree. Because it is .

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Date: 1/08/2018 20:45:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 1258795
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

roughbarked said:


ruby said:

If you want to attract native bees, then plant as many plants in the Lamiaceae family as you can. Luckily these plants are yummy to us and smell good too. Basil, mint, lemon balm, rosemary, thyme, the sages, coleus….lots of good ones and the bees really like them. I get blue banded bees, leaf cutters, honey bees, and teddy bear bees. The teddy bear bees like doing a lap around the inside of the house when it’s warm, and will buzz down to say hello.
Sadly I don’t have Tetragonula yet. I have asked my friendly tree lopper to save them if he sees any. There used to be lots at my work till they decided to start a regular insecticide regime. They never returned.

I have to agree. Because it is .

In my backyard. Blue banded supping

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Date: 1/08/2018 20:46:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 1258796
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

ruby said:

If you want to attract native bees, then plant as many plants in the Lamiaceae family as you can. Luckily these plants are yummy to us and smell good too. Basil, mint, lemon balm, rosemary, thyme, the sages, coleus….lots of good ones and the bees really like them. I get blue banded bees, leaf cutters, honey bees, and teddy bear bees. The teddy bear bees like doing a lap around the inside of the house when it’s warm, and will buzz down to say hello.
Sadly I don’t have Tetragonula yet. I have asked my friendly tree lopper to save them if he sees any. There used to be lots at my work till they decided to start a regular insecticide regime. They never returned.

I have to agree. Because it is .

In my backyard. Blue banded supping

That’s weird?

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Date: 1/08/2018 20:48:13
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1258798
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

I have to agree. Because it is .

In my backyard. Blue banded supping

That’s weird?

Do Australian native bees have more fur than Euro bees ?

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Date: 1/08/2018 22:26:15
From: Arts
ID: 1258818
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

roughbarked said:


ruby said:

If you want to attract native bees, then plant as many plants in the Lamiaceae family as you can. Luckily these plants are yummy to us and smell good too. Basil, mint, lemon balm, rosemary, thyme, the sages, coleus….lots of good ones and the bees really like them. I get blue banded bees, leaf cutters, honey bees, and teddy bear bees. The teddy bear bees like doing a lap around the inside of the house when it’s warm, and will buzz down to say hello.
Sadly I don’t have Tetragonula yet. I have asked my friendly tree lopper to save them if he sees any. There used to be lots at my work till they decided to start a regular insecticide regime. They never returned.

I have to agree. Because it is .

if you want to attract native bees wear honey perfume and offer to buy them a drink at the bar…

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Date: 2/08/2018 06:58:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 1258869
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

The Domino Cuckoo bee is parasitic on the larvae of the Teddy Bear Bee.

The Neon Cuckoo Bee parisitizes the larvae of the Blue Banded Bee.

These were photographed in my backyard.

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Date: 2/08/2018 07:14:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 1258875
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

http://www.australiangeographic.com.au/blogs/creatura-blog/2015/03/neon-cuckoo-bee-a-shiny-parasite

Anyway, I’m now thinking that what I said was a Neon Cuckoo bee may have been the Chequered Cuckoo bee but one almost needs to see both of them together to be able to spot the differences.

https://www.aussiebee.com.au/cuckoo-bee-dec2011.html

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Date: 2/08/2018 08:04:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 1258885
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

For Tau, who has not commented that he has read the aussie bee site.

Quoted from Stingless bees are found in Sydney, on the eastern side of the Blue Mountains and in coastal areas down to Bega. However, the climate in these areas is marginal for stingless bees, and boxed hives need to be carefully sited and managed. Harvesting honey from hives is not recommended in these areas. The bees will not fly below 18 degrees C and they need the excess honey they collect during summer to survive the long winter months.

Stingless bees are not found in other areas of NSW, in the ACT (Australian Capital Territory), in Victoria, South Australia or Tasmania. Hives would not survive in these areas without special artificial support.

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Date: 2/08/2018 09:11:41
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1258905
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

roughbarked said:


For Tau, who has not commented that he has read the aussie bee site.

Quoted from Stingless bees are found in Sydney, on the eastern side of the Blue Mountains and in coastal areas down to Bega. However, the climate in these areas is marginal for stingless bees, and boxed hives need to be carefully sited and managed. Harvesting honey from hives is not recommended in these areas. The bees will not fly below 18 degrees C and they need the excess honey they collect during summer to survive the long winter months.

Stingless bees are not found in other areas of NSW, in the ACT (Australian Capital Territory), in Victoria, South Australia or Tasmania. Hives would not survive in these areas without special artificial support.

We bought a hive of stingless bees last spring. The climate in Hornsby is a bit cool for them in winter, but they seem to be doing OK. Plenty flying around on a sunny day even when cool.

We won’t be nicking their honey.

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Date: 3/08/2018 13:55:42
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1259313
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

roughbarked said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

Why would they leave the hive if it was -5 outside the door?

Has it been tried ?

Yes. There are many native bees thta do livee in the southern parts of Australia but they don’t make honey and few of them are more than solitary.

That’s interesting.

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Date: 3/08/2018 15:12:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 1259340
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

mollwollfumble said:


roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Has it been tried ?

Yes. There are many native bees thta do livee in the southern parts of Australia but they don’t make honey and few of them are more than solitary.

That’s interesting.

What is, my typing errors?

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Date: 7/08/2018 08:25:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 1260572
Subject: re: Attracting native bees

This is interesting http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-07/australian-native-bees-help-worlds-plastic-pollution/10025664

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