Date: 18/08/2018 19:45:04
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1264743
Subject: UK Heatwave yields bumper harvest of archaeological sites

Pity there’s no longer a Time Team to dig it all up for us on telly.

The scorching weeks of the summer of 2018 left crops shrivelled and gardens scorched. It has also revealed the lines of scores of archaeological sites across the UK landscape, tracing millennia of human activity, from neolithic cursus monuments laid out more than 5,000 years ago to the outline of a long-demolished Tudor hall and its intended replacement.

Lost sites have been turning up all over Britain and Ireland, ploughed flat at ground level but showing up as parch marks from the air, in areas where grass and crops grow at different heights, or show in different colours, over buried foundations and ditches. A treasure trove of discoveries, including ancient field boundaries, lost villages, burial mounds and military structures, was revealed on Wednesday, recorded during the summer by aerial archaeologists flying over the landscape for Historic England.

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Date: 18/08/2018 19:47:38
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1264744
Subject: re: UK Heatwave yields bumper harvest of archaeological sites

Wouldn’t you love to live in that house and presumably that’s your land. I would be hopping down to a metal detector store.

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Date: 18/08/2018 19:49:14
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1264745
Subject: re: UK Heatwave yields bumper harvest of archaeological sites

Newly discovered prehistoric settlement in Lansallos, Cornwall. Its layout is unusual, with concentric ditches with entrances connected by two parallel ditches. The inner ditch may have surrounded a settlement from the bronze or iron age. Photograph: Damian Grady/Historic England

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Date: 18/08/2018 19:50:33
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1264746
Subject: re: UK Heatwave yields bumper harvest of archaeological sites

Scorch marks reveal the buried foundations of Tixall Hall, in Stafforshire, which was built in 1555. Photograph: Emma Trevarthen/Historic England

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Date: 18/08/2018 19:50:47
From: party_pants
ID: 1264747
Subject: re: UK Heatwave yields bumper harvest of archaeological sites

Surely they could do a couple TV shows on special commission, this time with more than just 3 days to find out. There is no shortage of good British TV presenters that could do the shows – Neil Oliver, Alice Roberts, just to name a couple off the top of my head.

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Date: 18/08/2018 19:53:32
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1264748
Subject: re: UK Heatwave yields bumper harvest of archaeological sites

party_pants said:


Surely they could do a couple TV shows on special commission, this time with more than just 3 days to find out. There is no shortage of good British TV presenters that could do the shows – Neil Oliver, Alice Roberts, just to name a couple off the top of my head.

Well this certainly narrows it down, not so many test trenches across likely lengths, just dig where the GPS says.

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Date: 18/08/2018 19:58:31
From: party_pants
ID: 1264749
Subject: re: UK Heatwave yields bumper harvest of archaeological sites

AwesomeO said:


party_pants said:

Surely they could do a couple TV shows on special commission, this time with more than just 3 days to find out. There is no shortage of good British TV presenters that could do the shows – Neil Oliver, Alice Roberts, just to name a couple off the top of my head.

Well this certainly narrows it down, not so many test trenches across likely lengths, just dig where the GPS says.

They could get some proper archeos to do a dig over several weeks, just have a camera crew on site, and have the presenter pop in for a hour or two every other day to speak to the head digger and fondle a few of the finds while doing a quick piece to camera.

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Date: 18/08/2018 20:05:27
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1264750
Subject: re: UK Heatwave yields bumper harvest of archaeological sites

The straight lines of the Roman temporary camp in Strathearn contrast with the patterns made by ancient dried up river beds

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-44812713

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Date: 18/08/2018 20:10:47
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1264751
Subject: re: UK Heatwave yields bumper harvest of archaeological sites

party_pants said:


AwesomeO said:

party_pants said:

Surely they could do a couple TV shows on special commission, this time with more than just 3 days to find out. There is no shortage of good British TV presenters that could do the shows – Neil Oliver, Alice Roberts, just to name a couple off the top of my head.

Well this certainly narrows it down, not so many test trenches across likely lengths, just dig where the GPS says.

They could get some proper archeos to do a dig over several weeks, just have a camera crew on site, and have the presenter pop in for a hour or two every other day to speak to the head digger and fondle a few of the finds while doing a quick piece to camera.


Nah make it a continuous stream like The Ghan.

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Date: 18/08/2018 20:15:29
From: party_pants
ID: 1264753
Subject: re: UK Heatwave yields bumper harvest of archaeological sites

Divine Angel said:


party_pants said:

AwesomeO said:

Well this certainly narrows it down, not so many test trenches across likely lengths, just dig where the GPS says.

They could get some proper archeos to do a dig over several weeks, just have a camera crew on site, and have the presenter pop in for a hour or two every other day to speak to the head digger and fondle a few of the finds while doing a quick piece to camera.


Nah make it a continuous stream like The Ghan.

Alright. I will.

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Date: 18/08/2018 21:49:36
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1264776
Subject: re: UK Heatwave yields bumper harvest of archaeological sites

> Wouldn’t you love to live in that house and presumably that’s your land. I would be hopping down to a metal detector store.

I’d love it. The land owners get a percentage of the value of finds there wouldn’t they? Isn’t that the way archaeology works?

My real question with this image is: What the heck are we looking at here? Are these sporting arenas, or horse pens, or something else?

Bubblecar said:


Pity there’s no longer a Time Team to dig it all up for us on telly.

The scorching weeks of the summer of 2018 left crops shrivelled and gardens scorched. It has also revealed the lines of scores of archaeological sites across the UK landscape, tracing millennia of human activity, from neolithic cursus monuments laid out more than 5,000 years ago to the outline of a long-demolished Tudor hall and its intended replacement.

Lost sites have been turning up all over Britain and Ireland, ploughed flat at ground level but showing up as parch marks from the air, in areas where grass and crops grow at different heights, or show in different colours, over buried foundations and ditches. A treasure trove of discoveries, including ancient field boundaries, lost villages, burial mounds and military structures, was revealed on Wednesday, recorded during the summer by aerial archaeologists flying over the landscape for Historic England.

Full Report

I’ve heard of two ways that heat can reveal archaeological sites. This is a third. The other two are:

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Date: 18/08/2018 21:53:52
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1264781
Subject: re: UK Heatwave yields bumper harvest of archaeological sites

mollwollfumble said:

My real question with this image is: What the heck are we looking at here? Are these sporting arenas, or horse pens, or something else?

Something ceremonial.

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Date: 18/08/2018 21:56:00
From: buffy
ID: 1264783
Subject: re: UK Heatwave yields bumper harvest of archaeological sites

Bushfires remove vegetation and reveal the eel races and traps and the stone houses. Western District of Victoria

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2006/s1561665.htm

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Date: 18/08/2018 21:57:07
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1264786
Subject: re: UK Heatwave yields bumper harvest of archaeological sites

buffy said:

Bushfires remove vegetation and reveal the eel races and traps and the stone houses. Western District of Victoria

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2006/s1561665.htm

eel races???

that’s a new one.

;-)

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Date: 18/08/2018 22:05:25
From: Michael V
ID: 1264790
Subject: re: UK Heatwave yields bumper harvest of archaeological sites

AwesomeO said:


mollwollfumble said:

My real question with this image is: What the heck are we looking at here? Are these sporting arenas, or horse pens, or something else?

Something ceremonial.

Or Round Houses for Viking ale drinking? That’s pretty ceremonial.

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Date: 18/08/2018 22:08:07
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1264792
Subject: re: UK Heatwave yields bumper harvest of archaeological sites

Michael V said:


AwesomeO said:

mollwollfumble said:

My real question with this image is: What the heck are we looking at here? Are these sporting arenas, or horse pens, or something else?

Something ceremonial.

Or Round Houses for Viking ale drinking? That’s pretty ceremonial.

I was funning actually, Moll didn’t know what they were, on Time Team that means ceremonial.

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Date: 18/08/2018 22:10:01
From: Michael V
ID: 1264794
Subject: re: UK Heatwave yields bumper harvest of archaeological sites

AwesomeO said:


Michael V said:

AwesomeO said:

Something ceremonial.

Or Round Houses for Viking ale drinking? That’s pretty ceremonial.

I was funning actually, Moll didn’t know what they were, on Time Team that means ceremonial.

:)

I missed that. Well done. You got me a beauty.

:)

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Date: 18/08/2018 22:20:55
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1264803
Subject: re: UK Heatwave yields bumper harvest of archaeological sites

AwesomeO said:


mollwollfumble said:

My real question with this image is: What the heck are we looking at here? Are these sporting arenas, or horse pens, or something else?

Something ceremonial.

Oh, fights.

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Date: 18/08/2018 22:23:11
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1264804
Subject: re: UK Heatwave yields bumper harvest of archaeological sites

mollwollfumble said:


AwesomeO said:

mollwollfumble said:

My real question with this image is: What the heck are we looking at here? Are these sporting arenas, or horse pens, or something else?

Something ceremonial.

Oh, fights.

But to be semi serious, I wonder if a tethered animal running a grind stone would leave a lasting rut, although these circles were too large.

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Date: 18/08/2018 22:29:35
From: Michael V
ID: 1264806
Subject: re: UK Heatwave yields bumper harvest of archaeological sites

AwesomeO said:


mollwollfumble said:

AwesomeO said:

Something ceremonial.

Oh, fights.

But to be semi serious, I wonder if a tethered animal running a grind stone would leave a lasting rut, although these circles were too large.

Quite possibly.

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Date: 18/08/2018 22:34:34
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1264808
Subject: re: UK Heatwave yields bumper harvest of archaeological sites

AwesomeO said:


mollwollfumble said:

AwesomeO said:

Something ceremonial.

Oh, fights.

But to be semi serious, I wonder if a tethered animal running a grind stone would leave a lasting rut, although these circles were too large.

Ditches were used as barriers before stone walls or ramparts. These are the remnants of ditches.

On the semi-serious “something ceremonial”, I’ll be semi-serious back. The pattern is not totally inconsistent with Idriess’s description of the Aboriginal initiation and sporting grounds on the Charnley River in WA.

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Date: 18/08/2018 22:37:30
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1264810
Subject: re: UK Heatwave yields bumper harvest of archaeological sites

mollwollfumble said:


AwesomeO said:

mollwollfumble said:

Oh, fights.

But to be semi serious, I wonder if a tethered animal running a grind stone would leave a lasting rut, although these circles were too large.

Ditches were used as barriers before stone walls or ramparts. These are the remnants of ditches.

On the semi-serious “something ceremonial”, I’ll be semi-serious back. The pattern is not totally inconsistent with Idriess’s description of the Aboriginal initiation and sporting grounds on the Charnley River in WA.

Ditches as a barrier would be more suited to straight lines in most applications.

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Date: 18/08/2018 22:44:31
From: Michael V
ID: 1264811
Subject: re: UK Heatwave yields bumper harvest of archaeological sites

mollwollfumble said:


AwesomeO said:

mollwollfumble said:

Oh, fights.

But to be semi serious, I wonder if a tethered animal running a grind stone would leave a lasting rut, although these circles were too large.

Ditches were used as barriers before stone walls or ramparts. These are the remnants of ditches.

On the semi-serious “something ceremonial”, I’ll be semi-serious back. The pattern is not totally inconsistent with Idriess’s description of the Aboriginal initiation and sporting grounds on the Charnley River in WA.

Not so dissimilar to ceremonial grounds I have seen either.

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Date: 19/08/2018 02:56:15
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1264840
Subject: re: UK Heatwave yields bumper harvest of archaeological sites

Bubblecar said:


Pity there’s no longer a Time Team to dig it all up for us on telly.

The scorching weeks of the summer of 2018 left crops shrivelled and gardens scorched. It has also revealed the lines of scores of archaeological sites across the UK landscape, tracing millennia of human activity, from neolithic cursus monuments laid out more than 5,000 years ago to the outline of a long-demolished Tudor hall and its intended replacement.

Lost sites have been turning up all over Britain and Ireland, ploughed flat at ground level but showing up as parch marks from the air, in areas where grass and crops grow at different heights, or show in different colours, over buried foundations and ditches. A treasure trove of discoveries, including ancient field boundaries, lost villages, burial mounds and military structures, was revealed on Wednesday, recorded during the summer by aerial archaeologists flying over the landscape for Historic England.

Full Report

Thought I’d look up what was already known about this field. “Prehistoric monuments and settlement near Eynsham, Oxfordshire”. Other title “Scorched cropmarks reveal the buried remains of prehistoric funary monuments and settlement near Eynsham, Oxfordshire. The circle of pits have not been visible for years”. Um, fella, there is no “circle of pits”, do you mean “circular ditches”? Another source puts the date at “circa 4000 BC to 700 BC” (a bit of a wide range there) and says “This site was known about and is protected as a scheduled monument”.

A bit confusing as there are so many ancient relics nearby. https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/oxon/vol12/pp98-110

“Abundant evidence of human occupation from Palaeolithic times has been found in the parish, especially on the river gravels. In the south, in a heavily crop-marked area between the village and Foxley Farm, finds included a Bronze Age cemetery of the Beaker period, and many other Bronze Age features; a supposed henge south-east of the Stanton Harcourt road, however, is not now thought to be man-made, though the site, called Deadman’s Burial by the early 17th century, perhaps contained a barrow. Bronze Age burials and other features have been discovered north of the village, notably in the New Wintles Farm area, while the importance of the Thames crossing at that period is suggested by the discovery of shields at Swinford Bridge. The Foxley Farm area included an early Iron Age settlement, and another settlement of that period lay on the boundary with Hanborough north of City Farm. A large earthwork in Eynsham Hall park probably dates in part from the Iron Age; a smaller, oval earthwork close to the eastern boundary of the park has been ploughed out. A Romano-British settlement, with attached fields, has been identified north of Foxley Farm, and Romano-British artefacts have been found there, at New Wintles Farm, further south between Cuckoo and Mill Lanes, north of Newland Street near the primary school, and in the village itself, notably at the Gables and on and near the abbey site. An important Romano-British coin hoard, buried c. 330, was discovered in the fields in 1935, but the precise location was not recorded.”.

This one, perhaps? “A large earthwork in Eynsham Hall park probably dates in part from the Iron Age”.

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Date: 19/08/2018 07:23:18
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1264850
Subject: re: UK Heatwave yields bumper harvest of archaeological sites

Michael V said:


AwesomeO said:

mollwollfumble said:

My real question with this image is: What the heck are we looking at here? Are these sporting arenas, or horse pens, or something else?

Something ceremonial.

Or Round Houses for Viking ale drinking? That’s pretty ceremonial.

Vikings built Long Houses not round I think.

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Date: 19/08/2018 07:28:16
From: Michael V
ID: 1264851
Subject: re: UK Heatwave yields bumper harvest of archaeological sites

JudgeMental said:


Michael V said:

AwesomeO said:

Something ceremonial.

Or Round Houses for Viking ale drinking? That’s pretty ceremonial.

Vikings built Long Houses not round I think.

You’re probably correct. Roundhouses were likely earlier. Or later – for fixing locomotives.

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Date: 19/08/2018 07:29:07
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1264852
Subject: re: UK Heatwave yields bumper harvest of archaeological sites

mollwollfumble said:


Bubblecar said:

Pity there’s no longer a Time Team to dig it all up for us on telly.

The scorching weeks of the summer of 2018 left crops shrivelled and gardens scorched. It has also revealed the lines of scores of archaeological sites across the UK landscape, tracing millennia of human activity, from neolithic cursus monuments laid out more than 5,000 years ago to the outline of a long-demolished Tudor hall and its intended replacement.

Lost sites have been turning up all over Britain and Ireland, ploughed flat at ground level but showing up as parch marks from the air, in areas where grass and crops grow at different heights, or show in different colours, over buried foundations and ditches. A treasure trove of discoveries, including ancient field boundaries, lost villages, burial mounds and military structures, was revealed on Wednesday, recorded during the summer by aerial archaeologists flying over the landscape for Historic England.

Full Report

Thought I’d look up what was already known about this field. “Prehistoric monuments and settlement near Eynsham, Oxfordshire”. Other title “Scorched cropmarks reveal the buried remains of prehistoric funary monuments and settlement near Eynsham, Oxfordshire. The circle of pits have not been visible for years”. Um, fella, there is no “circle of pits”, do you mean “circular ditches”? Another source puts the date at “circa 4000 BC to 700 BC” (a bit of a wide range there) and says “This site was known about and is protected as a scheduled monument”.

the dark filled in circular marks are pits. usually for iron working or slag pits. The large circular lines, and the straight sided ones are house foundations. you can see also road and field boundaries leading in from the bottom left. Houses have been built over old sites of houses.

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Date: 19/08/2018 07:33:02
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1264853
Subject: re: UK Heatwave yields bumper harvest of archaeological sites

JudgeMental said:


mollwollfumble said:

Bubblecar said:

Pity there’s no longer a Time Team to dig it all up for us on telly.

The scorching weeks of the summer of 2018 left crops shrivelled and gardens scorched. It has also revealed the lines of scores of archaeological sites across the UK landscape, tracing millennia of human activity, from neolithic cursus monuments laid out more than 5,000 years ago to the outline of a long-demolished Tudor hall and its intended replacement.

Lost sites have been turning up all over Britain and Ireland, ploughed flat at ground level but showing up as parch marks from the air, in areas where grass and crops grow at different heights, or show in different colours, over buried foundations and ditches. A treasure trove of discoveries, including ancient field boundaries, lost villages, burial mounds and military structures, was revealed on Wednesday, recorded during the summer by aerial archaeologists flying over the landscape for Historic England.

Full Report

Thought I’d look up what was already known about this field. “Prehistoric monuments and settlement near Eynsham, Oxfordshire”. Other title “Scorched cropmarks reveal the buried remains of prehistoric funary monuments and settlement near Eynsham, Oxfordshire. The circle of pits have not been visible for years”. Um, fella, there is no “circle of pits”, do you mean “circular ditches”? Another source puts the date at “circa 4000 BC to 700 BC” (a bit of a wide range there) and says “This site was known about and is protected as a scheduled monument”.

the dark filled in circular marks are pits. usually for iron working or slag pits. The large circular lines, and the straight sided ones are house foundations. you can see also road and field boundaries leading in from the bottom left. Houses have been built over old sites of houses.

though some of the larger circles would be ditches maybe around ceremonial grounds.

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Date: 19/08/2018 08:04:39
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1264858
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Date: 20/08/2018 07:32:26
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1265191
Subject: re: UK Heatwave yields bumper harvest of archaeological sites

JudgeMental said:



Looks good. Only, well, the ditch is five times that diameter. About 20 times the area. That’s why I was wondering if they may be pens for stock.

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