Date: 29/04/2009 14:31:35
From: Dinetta
ID: 54278
Subject: Organizing Boyz Toyz

Toyz:

line trimmer
chain saw
mower plus catcher

angle grinders – Makita kit
power drills –

Also, should some of these (e.g. the 2-strokes) be emptied of their fuel before storing? This is the line trimmer and chain saw.

I have shelves but nobody ever puts anything back…can I hang any of this on the wall?

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Date: 29/04/2009 15:02:53
From: veg gardener
ID: 54281
Subject: re: Organizing Boyz Toyz

Dinetta said:


Toyz:

line trimmer
chain saw
mower plus catcher

angle grinders – Makita kit
power drills –

Also, should some of these (e.g. the 2-strokes) be emptied of their fuel before storing? This is the line trimmer and chain saw.

I have shelves but nobody ever puts anything back…can I hang any of this on the wall?

Not really. not really for them but don’t go mixing up heaps of the fuel at once only make enough to do what ur doing.

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Date: 29/04/2009 15:03:10
From: The Estate
ID: 54282
Subject: re: Organizing Boyz Toyz

I dont bother with emptying them out ??

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Date: 29/04/2009 15:20:09
From: pepe
ID: 54286
Subject: re: Organizing Boyz Toyz

Dinetta said:


Toyz:
line trimmer chain saw mower plus catcher
angle grinders – Makita kit power drills –
Also, should some of these (e.g. the 2-strokes) be emptied of their fuel before storing? This is the line trimmer and chain saw.
I have shelves but nobody ever puts anything back…can I hang any of this on the wall?

i don’t empty the 2 stroke but normally there is a switch to turn off the fuel line. its a good idea to give them a quick brush to remove rotting greenery that’s stuck to them.
the drill can be put on shelves – with the drill bits next to it.
chain saws and angle grinders come with spanners or keys to change attachments, sharpen blades – these are best stored alongside their respective tool.
this is an admirable cross gender question dinetta

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Date: 29/04/2009 15:42:57
From: Dinetta
ID: 54294
Subject: re: Organizing Boyz Toyz

Pepe I am the housekeeper, right? I wash the dishes, cook the meals, clean (sometimes) the house surfaces, do the ironing, etc etc.

Why, then, am I expected to pick up the Boyz Toyz after the lads have used them? They know where to find them, they know how to do basic maintenance work on them and how to mix the fuels and start the b**y things…but they won’t put them away…

all these, with the exception of the angle grinder and the cordless drills, were purchased for me.

When I use them I put them away.

When the lads use them, where they stop is where they stay, but it’s not so bad now in that they will put them under roof (anywhere) when they are finished. I draw the line at leaving these things on the outdoors dining table and on chairs…

We have shelving where they are supposed to be put, in the garage, but as these things never go back to their allotted spaces, I was wondering if there was some other way of storing them so it will happen after each use…

My dad had a “shadow board” made from an old door, it worked a treat…you wouldn’t use this for the Toyz but it made life easier if you used his tools…

I’m sorry if I sound whingy and whiney but I do like to put my things back and I do like to think they are worth putting back by others….

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Date: 29/04/2009 16:15:24
From: pepe
ID: 54296
Subject: re: Organizing Boyz Toyz

all these, with the exception of the angle grinder and the cordless drills, were purchased for me.
———-
don’t lend tools.
it doesn’t matter who you lend it to – it always comes back broken, blunt or doesn’t come back at all. my daughter is the same – she will ‘borrow’ my drill and 3 weeks later i find it under a pile of clothes in her bedroom.
…. and to be fair my older brother is no better – if he borrows a tool it is gone forever.

the only good tool practice is at a workplace where the last 15 minutes of every day is spent tidying up – read cleaning and storing the tools.

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Date: 29/04/2009 17:33:41
From: Dinetta
ID: 54297
Subject: re: Organizing Boyz Toyz

pepe said:


all these, with the exception of the angle grinder and the cordless drills, were purchased for me.
———-
don’t lend tools.
it doesn’t matter who you lend it to – it always comes back broken, blunt or doesn’t come back at all. my daughter is the same – she will ‘borrow’ my drill and 3 weeks later i find it under a pile of clothes in her bedroom.
…. and to be fair my older brother is no better – if he borrows a tool it is gone forever.

the only good tool practice is at a workplace where the last 15 minutes of every day is spent tidying up – read cleaning and storing the tools.

That last bit is good advice and I’ll pass it on.

I don’t “lend” my tools, equipment, so much as if I need the yard / maintenance work done by the young fellers, they need to use my tools / equipment aka Boyz Toyz.

I think I’ll make it a rule: end of day, put the tools / Toyz away… you found ‘em, you put ‘em back…

Thanks Pepe

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Date: 29/04/2009 17:37:07
From: Dinetta
ID: 54298
Subject: re: Organizing Boyz Toyz

When I was a girl, I always considered it a privilege to be able to use my father’s tools…no other girl of my acquaintance was “allowed” – if they were even interested – so I took Dad seriously when he said put it back when you’ve finished…after all, that’s just what he did…

but I think my lads believe it is a right to use my toolz, and their father impresses on them it is their dooty to assist with this domestic chore…shame he doesn’t emphasise the washing up, folding and putting away of clothes…

sorry to be a nag…

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Date: 29/04/2009 18:00:59
From: Longy
ID: 54299
Subject: re: Organizing Boyz Toyz

D, if someone, be it family or otheriwse, borrows any equipment, tell them to return it to the place they found it, in the same condition.
If they won’t do it, don’t lend it.
This may mean a lockable cabinet to make your point but it would be well worth it.
When you are asked for the keys by someone who didn’t replace the tools, say no.
Once you have them realising you are serious, it’ll be easy.
Also, don’t make a threat, like, “if you don’t put them back you can’t use them,” unless you’re prepared to keep the threat.
Maybe your shelves need a door and a lock.

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Date: 29/04/2009 18:40:03
From: Dinetta
ID: 54302
Subject: re: Organizing Boyz Toyz

Thank you very much, Longy.

My eldest daughter yells at the boys, tells them upfront that “spidey man walking up the walls foot prints” are not acceptable and they can’t stay if they don’t follow her rules, and they take it (with a grin!) and listen to her…

I yell at them and it’s “oh that’s just mum”…

…but I need to get serious about those toyz ….I’ve waited too long for them and they aren’t cheap…so I might have to lock the drills and angle grinder away (even the family ones) in the archive shed and hide the key as you suggest…buy a lock first!

The yard tools won’t fit in the shed, what with the archive boxes and bookmaking boards etc… but it’s a start.

Great!

big :)

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Date: 29/04/2009 18:51:18
From: Longy
ID: 54304
Subject: re: Organizing Boyz Toyz

The yard tools won’t fit in the shed, what with the archive boxes and bookmaking boards etc… but it’s a start.

+++++++++++++++++++

What are the yard tools?

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Date: 29/04/2009 18:56:13
From: Dinetta
ID: 54306
Subject: re: Organizing Boyz Toyz

Longy said:


The yard tools won’t fit in the shed, what with the archive boxes and bookmaking boards etc… but it’s a start.

+++++++++++++++++++

What are the yard tools?

Line trimmer, mower, chainsaw…

the mulcher just lives under the eaves in an out of the way spot…far too big for inside…but maybe if I tidy up by Christmas that will change…

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Date: 29/04/2009 19:00:02
From: Longy
ID: 54309
Subject: re: Organizing Boyz Toyz

OK, so you need to ‘isolate these weapons as well.
A length of chain, weaved thru wheels, clipped to whatever, works.

It;s the same thing. Lock it.

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Date: 30/04/2009 07:02:45
From: Dinetta
ID: 54317
Subject: re: Organizing Boyz Toyz

Longy said:


OK, so you need to ‘isolate these weapons as well.
A length of chain, weaved thru wheels, clipped to whatever, works.

It;s the same thing. Lock it.

Longy I looked at this last night and thought “what the…?” but after having slept on it, I see how it can be done…we have some block and tackle chain that was discovered down the paddock many years ago, complete with the hook, gave the boyz hours of fun building treehouses but I digress…I could use that…

Thanks for all the good ideas!

:)

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Date: 30/04/2009 07:58:42
From: pomolo
ID: 54328
Subject: re: Organizing Boyz Toyz

Dinetta said:


When I was a girl, I always considered it a privilege to be able to use my father’s tools…no other girl of my acquaintance was “allowed” – if they were even interested – so I took Dad seriously when he said put it back when you’ve finished…after all, that’s just what he did…

but I think my lads believe it is a right to use my toolz, and their father impresses on them it is their dooty to assist with this domestic chore…shame he doesn’t emphasise the washing up, folding and putting away of clothes…

sorry to be a nag…

One thing I noticed when there were 2 males living in our household. Each would blame the other for tools that were left out to rust or get wet. Now that there is only MrP he had no one to blame so he sheepishly takes the onus for anything that is lost or missing. I used to leave stuff where I saw them lying but none of them were mine, where your kids are using your tools Dinetta. That would be frustrating for you.

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Date: 30/04/2009 08:01:28
From: pomolo
ID: 54329
Subject: re: Organizing Boyz Toyz

Longy said:


D, if someone, be it family or otheriwse, borrows any equipment, tell them to return it to the place they found it, in the same condition.
If they won’t do it, don’t lend it.
This may mean a lockable cabinet to make your point but it would be well worth it.
When you are asked for the keys by someone who didn’t replace the tools, say no.
Once you have them realising you are serious, it’ll be easy.
Also, don’t make a threat, like, “if you don’t put them back you can’t use them,” unless you’re prepared to keep the threat.
Maybe your shelves need a door and a lock.

You must have been raised in the same school as me LF. Say what you mean and mean what you say. No “ifs” “buts” or “maybes.”

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Date: 30/04/2009 08:04:20
From: Dinetta
ID: 54331
Subject: re: Organizing Boyz Toyz

Hi Pomolo

Oh my boyz own up all right, but as I would have to stand there and supervise the putting away, I feel they would just continue to leave the toolz lying around “until mum yells at me to put them away”…

This does not encourage responsiblity, IMO… so if I lock them up, as Longy suggested, they’ll get the message that even borrowing Mum and Dad’s stuff comes with a protocol…

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Date: 30/04/2009 08:06:52
From: Dinetta
ID: 54333
Subject: re: Organizing Boyz Toyz

pomolo said:


Longy said:

D, if someone, be it family or otheriwse, borrows any equipment, tell them to return it to the place they found it, in the same condition.
If they won’t do it, don’t lend it.
This may mean a lockable cabinet to make your point but it would be well worth it.
When you are asked for the keys by someone who didn’t replace the tools, say no.
Once you have them realising you are serious, it’ll be easy.
Also, don’t make a threat, like, “if you don’t put them back you can’t use them,” unless you’re prepared to keep the threat.
Maybe your shelves need a door and a lock.

You must have been raised in the same school as me LF. Say what you mean and mean what you say. No “ifs” “buts” or “maybes.”

I didn’t mean to be, but I was wishy-washy, 5 kids under 8 yo, Ross River fever and Mr D “was never home”…

However I think now would be a good time to start saying what I mean and meaning what I say, as Pomolo says… they’re old enough and have hopefully now developed sufficient social skills / conscience, these days, to understand me…

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Date: 30/04/2009 08:18:11
From: pomolo
ID: 54341
Subject: re: Organizing Boyz Toyz

Dinetta said:


pomolo said:

Longy said:

D, if someone, be it family or otheriwse, borrows any equipment, tell them to return it to the place they found it, in the same condition.
If they won’t do it, don’t lend it.
This may mean a lockable cabinet to make your point but it would be well worth it.
When you are asked for the keys by someone who didn’t replace the tools, say no.
Once you have them realising you are serious, it’ll be easy.
Also, don’t make a threat, like, “if you don’t put them back you can’t use them,” unless you’re prepared to keep the threat.
Maybe your shelves need a door and a lock.

You must have been raised in the same school as me LF. Say what you mean and mean what you say. No “ifs” “buts” or “maybes.”

I didn’t mean to be, but I was wishy-washy, 5 kids under 8 yo, Ross River fever and Mr D “was never home”…

However I think now would be a good time to start saying what I mean and meaning what I say, as Pomolo says… they’re old enough and have hopefully now developed sufficient social skills / conscience, these days, to understand me…

Ata a girl.

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Date: 30/04/2009 13:01:37
From: bon008
ID: 54357
Subject: re: Organizing Boyz Toyz

pomolo said:


You must have been raised in the same school as me LF. Say what you mean and mean what you say. No “ifs” “buts” or “maybes.”

Reminds me of our dog trainer’s golden rule – say it once and make it happen! If you’re not in a position to make the action happen if your woof-woof decides to push the boundaries, then don’t give the command.

Mr Bon and I have learnt most of our parenting skills from dog training classes grin

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Date: 7/10/2010 07:10:16
From: Dinetta
ID: 106235
Subject: re: Organizing Boyz Toyz

The “old” lawnmower, the one with the bend in the handle to fit my pregnant tummy 17 years ago, is going to cost $385 or more to repair. I volunteered to race up the road to find out if Dad’s old Victa is still going (it was, 17 years ago)…this Victa being just a few years younger than I am…however it’s the guv’nor that’s gone (hooray, that’s not my fault!) and the mower man at the mower shed told MrD that a new mower would be more economical…so MrD is happily looking forward to parting with $699 today, for a mower that apparently mulches the grass as well…will let you know more when the thing turns up…

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Date: 7/10/2010 07:25:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 106236
Subject: re: Organizing Boyz Toyz

Self mulching mowers are the bees knees.

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Date: 7/10/2010 07:45:49
From: Happy Potter
ID: 106237
Subject: re: Organizing Boyz Toyz

Ooo mulcher mower, cool.
I remember mowing the lawn when I was preggers too. It was just to drown out the kids noise lol!

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Date: 7/10/2010 08:09:30
From: Dinetta
ID: 106239
Subject: re: Organizing Boyz Toyz

roughbarked said:


Self mulching mowers are the bees knees.

Are they that good?

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Date: 7/10/2010 08:10:48
From: Dinetta
ID: 106240
Subject: re: Organizing Boyz Toyz

Happy Potter said:


Ooo mulcher mower, cool.
I remember mowing the lawn when I was preggers too. It was just to drown out the kids noise lol!

A gardening tool of many uses, it seems…

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Date: 7/10/2010 14:05:43
From: bubba louie
ID: 106258
Subject: re: Organizing Boyz Toyz

Dinetta said:


roughbarked said:

Self mulching mowers are the bees knees.

Are they that good?

Yes but I’m starting to wonder if mine is the cause of a weed explosion in our lawn because any seeds are left on the lawn.

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Date: 7/10/2010 15:46:49
From: veg gardener
ID: 106263
Subject: re: Organizing Boyz Toyz

Dinetta said:


roughbarked said:

Self mulching mowers are the bees knees.

Are they that good?

our ride on as a Mulcher deck on it, Don’t have Grass clippings and small stones flying out.

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Date: 8/10/2010 14:17:49
From: Dinetta
ID: 106370
Subject: re: Organizing Boyz Toyz

bubba louie said:


Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

Self mulching mowers are the bees knees.

Are they that good?

Yes but I’m starting to wonder if mine is the cause of a weed explosion in our lawn because any seeds are left on the lawn.

I find that if the lawn is kept good and thick, the weeds don’t get a look in…

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