Date: 23/09/2018 14:25:36
From: Obviousman
ID: 1279949
Subject: Anti-vaxxer becomes 'expert' witness

Unbelievable.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/anti-vaccination-activist-turns-expert-witness-in-family-court-immunisation-brawl-20180922-p505dk.html

You know, I believe in UFOs; maybe the Uni of Wollongong will give me a doctorate?

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Date: 23/09/2018 14:28:57
From: party_pants
ID: 1279953
Subject: re: Anti-vaxxer becomes 'expert' witness

Obviousman said:


Unbelievable.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/anti-vaccination-activist-turns-expert-witness-in-family-court-immunisation-brawl-20180922-p505dk.html

You know, I believe in UFOs; maybe the Uni of Wollongong will give me a doctorate?

I hope the Family Court make some sort of decision that she is not an expert and discard her opinions.

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Date: 23/09/2018 14:33:49
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1279954
Subject: re: Anti-vaxxer becomes 'expert' witness

party_pants said:


Obviousman said:

Unbelievable.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/anti-vaccination-activist-turns-expert-witness-in-family-court-immunisation-brawl-20180922-p505dk.html

You know, I believe in UFOs; maybe the Uni of Wollongong will give me a doctorate?

I hope the Family Court make some sort of decision that she is not an expert and discard her opinions.

If the article is accurate, then I imagine they will do that.

I’m guessing that anyone can claim expertise before a court, but they would have to provide some evidence of this. I wouldn’t think that a Wollongong Uni humanities degree would have a huge amount of weight in proving expertise in medical matters.

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Date: 23/09/2018 15:03:25
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1279956
Subject: re: Anti-vaxxer becomes 'expert' witness

I’m pro vaccination but I have an enquiring mind.

I remember several years ago I was listening to a programme on the BBC.
It was a full on discussion with relative experts and stakeholders surrounding the MMR and autism.
It was about an hour long and they went through it in chapter and verse, the discredited paper that set it off in 1998 and much much more, one of the things that struck at the time was that the UK NHS stopped giving the MMR for a period of time and I thought to myself the obvious thing to do is to look at autism rates for that period but they never went there.
I was listening to it in the car and never checked but prompted by this thread I thought I’d see if there is infact data on that.
Now there would be a lot of caveats associated with the below graph, ages, methodology etc.
Interesting though.

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Date: 23/09/2018 15:10:29
From: buffy
ID: 1279957
Subject: re: Anti-vaxxer becomes 'expert' witness

Peak Warming Man said:


I’m pro vaccination but I have an enquiring mind.

I remember several years ago I was listening to a programme on the BBC.
It was a full on discussion with relative experts and stakeholders surrounding the MMR and autism.
It was about an hour long and they went through it in chapter and verse, the discredited paper that set it off in 1998 and much much more, one of the things that struck at the time was that the UK NHS stopped giving the MMR for a period of time and I thought to myself the obvious thing to do is to look at autism rates for that period but they never went there.
I was listening to it in the car and never checked but prompted by this thread I thought I’d see if there is infact data on that.
Now there would be a lot of caveats associated with the below graph, ages, methodology etc.
Interesting though.


So when did they stop it?

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Date: 23/09/2018 15:12:22
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1279960
Subject: re: Anti-vaxxer becomes 'expert' witness

buffy said:


Peak Warming Man said:

I’m pro vaccination but I have an enquiring mind.

I remember several years ago I was listening to a programme on the BBC.
It was a full on discussion with relative experts and stakeholders surrounding the MMR and autism.
It was about an hour long and they went through it in chapter and verse, the discredited paper that set it off in 1998 and much much more, one of the things that struck at the time was that the UK NHS stopped giving the MMR for a period of time and I thought to myself the obvious thing to do is to look at autism rates for that period but they never went there.
I was listening to it in the car and never checked but prompted by this thread I thought I’d see if there is infact data on that.
Now there would be a lot of caveats associated with the below graph, ages, methodology etc.
Interesting though.


So when did they stop it?

1998 when the paper was published in the Lancet.

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Date: 23/09/2018 15:12:28
From: Ian
ID: 1279961
Subject: re: Anti-vaxxer becomes 'expert' witness

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Date: 23/09/2018 15:12:51
From: sibeen
ID: 1279962
Subject: re: Anti-vaxxer becomes 'expert' witness

buffy said:


Peak Warming Man said:

I’m pro vaccination but I have an enquiring mind.

I remember several years ago I was listening to a programme on the BBC.
It was a full on discussion with relative experts and stakeholders surrounding the MMR and autism.
It was about an hour long and they went through it in chapter and verse, the discredited paper that set it off in 1998 and much much more, one of the things that struck at the time was that the UK NHS stopped giving the MMR for a period of time and I thought to myself the obvious thing to do is to look at autism rates for that period but they never went there.
I was listening to it in the car and never checked but prompted by this thread I thought I’d see if there is infact data on that.
Now there would be a lot of caveats associated with the below graph, ages, methodology etc.
Interesting though.


So when did they stop it?

And for how long?

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Date: 23/09/2018 15:15:27
From: dv
ID: 1279965
Subject: re: Anti-vaxxer becomes 'expert' witness

She was awarded a PhD under the University of Wollongong’s humanities department.

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Date: 23/09/2018 15:20:23
From: dv
ID: 1279967
Subject: re: Anti-vaxxer becomes 'expert' witness

I’m provax because I have an enquiring mind

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Date: 23/09/2018 15:31:44
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1279971
Subject: re: Anti-vaxxer becomes 'expert' witness

Peak Warming Man said:


I’m pro vaccination but I have an enquiring mind.

I remember several years ago I was listening to a programme on the BBC.
It was a full on discussion with relative experts and stakeholders surrounding the MMR and autism.
It was about an hour long and they went through it in chapter and verse, the discredited paper that set it off in 1998 and much much more, one of the things that struck at the time was that the UK NHS stopped giving the MMR for a period of time and I thought to myself the obvious thing to do is to look at autism rates for that period but they never went there.
I was listening to it in the car and never checked but prompted by this thread I thought I’d see if there is infact data on that.
Now there would be a lot of caveats associated with the below graph, ages, methodology etc.
Interesting though.


url from whence that graph came please.

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Date: 23/09/2018 15:37:25
From: btm
ID: 1279975
Subject: re: Anti-vaxxer becomes 'expert' witness

JudgeMental said:


Peak Warming Man said:

I’m pro vaccination but I have an enquiring mind.

I remember several years ago I was listening to a programme on the BBC.
It was a full on discussion with relative experts and stakeholders surrounding the MMR and autism.
It was about an hour long and they went through it in chapter and verse, the discredited paper that set it off in 1998 and much much more, one of the things that struck at the time was that the UK NHS stopped giving the MMR for a period of time and I thought to myself the obvious thing to do is to look at autism rates for that period but they never went there.
I was listening to it in the car and never checked but prompted by this thread I thought I’d see if there is infact data on that.
Now there would be a lot of caveats associated with the below graph, ages, methodology etc.
Interesting though.


url from whence that graph came please.

It’s from an article in the BMJ, “Prevalence and incidence rates of autism in the UK: time trend from 2004 – 2010 in children aged 8 years”
https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/3/10/e003219

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Date: 23/09/2018 15:38:29
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1279977
Subject: re: Anti-vaxxer becomes 'expert' witness

JudgeMental said:


Peak Warming Man said:

I’m pro vaccination but I have an enquiring mind.

I remember several years ago I was listening to a programme on the BBC.
It was a full on discussion with relative experts and stakeholders surrounding the MMR and autism.
It was about an hour long and they went through it in chapter and verse, the discredited paper that set it off in 1998 and much much more, one of the things that struck at the time was that the UK NHS stopped giving the MMR for a period of time and I thought to myself the obvious thing to do is to look at autism rates for that period but they never went there.
I was listening to it in the car and never checked but prompted by this thread I thought I’d see if there is infact data on that.
Now there would be a lot of caveats associated with the below graph, ages, methodology etc.
Interesting though.


url from whence that graph came please.

https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/3/10/e003219

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Date: 23/09/2018 15:38:50
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1279978
Subject: re: Anti-vaxxer becomes 'expert' witness

btm said:


JudgeMental said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I’m pro vaccination but I have an enquiring mind.

I remember several years ago I was listening to a programme on the BBC.
It was a full on discussion with relative experts and stakeholders surrounding the MMR and autism.
It was about an hour long and they went through it in chapter and verse, the discredited paper that set it off in 1998 and much much more, one of the things that struck at the time was that the UK NHS stopped giving the MMR for a period of time and I thought to myself the obvious thing to do is to look at autism rates for that period but they never went there.
I was listening to it in the car and never checked but prompted by this thread I thought I’d see if there is infact data on that.
Now there would be a lot of caveats associated with the below graph, ages, methodology etc.
Interesting though.


url from whence that graph came please.

It’s from an article in the BMJ, “Prevalence and incidence rates of autism in the UK: time trend from 2004 – 2010 in children aged 8 years”
https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/3/10/e003219

ta just got it.

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Date: 23/09/2018 19:05:25
From: Arts
ID: 1280046
Subject: re: Anti-vaxxer becomes 'expert' witness

why does that graph show just boys? how did the diagnosis technique for asd change over this time? the definitions of asd did change over this time, perhaps some of the changes are due to definitional difference. so many questions

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Date: 23/09/2018 19:35:29
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1280054
Subject: re: Anti-vaxxer becomes 'expert' witness

Arts said:


why does that graph show just boys? how did the diagnosis technique for asd change over this time? the definitions of asd did change over this time, perhaps some of the changes are due to definitional difference. so many questions

It’s almost like the graph is useless…

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Date: 23/09/2018 20:59:51
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1280072
Subject: re: Anti-vaxxer becomes 'expert' witness

Sister in law is anti-vaxxer who broadcasts every anti-vaxxer article that comes her way to everybody. Don’t mention it!

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Date: 23/09/2018 21:05:54
From: party_pants
ID: 1280074
Subject: re: Anti-vaxxer becomes 'expert' witness

mollwollfumble said:


Sister in law is anti-vaxxer who broadcasts every anti-vaxxer article that comes her way to everybody. Don’t mention it!

Have you tried asking her politely not to pass it on?
Have you tried asking bluntly?

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Date: 23/09/2018 21:08:57
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1280075
Subject: re: Anti-vaxxer becomes 'expert' witness

party_pants said:


mollwollfumble said:

Sister in law is anti-vaxxer who broadcasts every anti-vaxxer article that comes her way to everybody. Don’t mention it!

Have you tried asking her politely not to pass it on?
Have you tried asking bluntly?

Have you tried an anti sister in law facebook page?

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Date: 24/09/2018 00:50:08
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1280131
Subject: re: Anti-vaxxer becomes 'expert' witness

Wollongong University “must bear the major responsibility for manifestly inadequate supervision”.

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Date: 24/09/2018 03:39:48
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1280144
Subject: re: Anti-vaxxer becomes 'expert' witness

sarahs mum said:


party_pants said:

mollwollfumble said:

Sister in law is anti-vaxxer who broadcasts every anti-vaxxer article that comes her way to everybody. Don’t mention it!

Have you tried asking her politely not to pass it on?
Have you tried asking bluntly?

Have you tried an anti sister in law facebook page?

In a word, yes.

Quite simply, anti-vaxxers are trolls. Never ever write a news article about them. Don’t feed them.

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Date: 24/09/2018 09:54:30
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1280171
Subject: re: Anti-vaxxer becomes 'expert' witness

Morning punters and correctors, I slept in.
Drove down from the redoubt yesterdat evening (4 hours) went to bed at 8:30pm woke up at 9:30am.
I’m so pretty.

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