Too many people making too many demands on the environment.

>>Launching a People’s Manifesto for Wildlife, broadcaster Chris Packham said the UK is witnessing a “mass extinction in our own backyards” due to a lack of regard for the environment – such as building roads and houses through natural habitats and using pesticides in farming.

A staggering 38,000 mountain hares have been killed on hunting estates across Scotland, and the manifesto warns the animals could become extinct in our lifetime.<<

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/uk-faces-ecological-apocalypse-as-species-go-extinct/ar-AAAsJzE?ocid=sf

My granddaughter will be 35 in 2050. I grieve that she will know silent and empty places

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/nov/19/my-granddaughter-will-be-35-in-2050-i-grieve-that-she-will-know-silent-and-empty-places

sarahs mum said:

My granddaughter will be 35 in 2050. I grieve that she will know silent and empty places

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/nov/19/my-granddaughter-will-be-35-in-2050-i-grieve-that-she-will-know-silent-and-empty-places

Worth repeating from the above article.

>>We are living in the Anthropocene, a period in the Earth’s history in which we humans have altered all the systems that support life on Earth. We are destroying the habitat that we and our fellow creatures need to survive. We live on a finite planet, yet we behave as if an increasing global population can continue to consume the Earth’s resources from forests and fisheries to fossil fuels at an accelerating rate and nothing will change. When I was born in 1953, the global population was 2.5 billion; it is now over 7 billion, and by 2050 it is projected to be more than 9 billion.

If everyone consumes at the current rate of those of us in the developed world, why would we think that anything other than a reduced number of humans will have a place to live? When you add to that the impact of invasive species and overlay it with global warming, changing the climate and threatening food and water security for everything from plankton, plants and insects to reptiles, birds, animals and humans, you cannot escape the fact that we are living in the sixth wave of extinction and destroying our own home.<<

PermeateFree said:

sarahs mum said:

My granddaughter will be 35 in 2050. I grieve that she will know silent and empty places

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/nov/19/my-granddaughter-will-be-35-in-2050-i-grieve-that-she-will-know-silent-and-empty-places

Worth repeating from the above article.

>>We are living in the Anthropocene, a period in the Earth’s history in which we humans have altered all the systems that support life on Earth. We are destroying the habitat that we and our fellow creatures need to survive. We live on a finite planet, yet we behave as if an increasing global population can continue to consume the Earth’s resources from forests and fisheries to fossil fuels at an accelerating rate and nothing will change. When I was born in 1953, the global population was 2.5 billion; it is now over 7 billion, and by 2050 it is projected to be more than 9 billion.

If everyone consumes at the current rate of those of us in the developed world, why would we think that anything other than a reduced number of humans will have a place to live? When you add to that the impact of invasive species and overlay it with global warming, changing the climate and threatening food and water security for everything from plankton, plants and insects to reptiles, birds, animals and humans, you cannot escape the fact that we are living in the sixth wave of extinction and destroying our own home.<<

Yet we still put shit on Greens like Christine.

I have apologised to Sarah for not working hard enough to secure a good planet for Henry. We were saying at the time that we must think about our grandchildren. And now the grandchildren are here and things are so much worse.

sarahs mum said:

PermeateFree said:

sarahs mum said:

My granddaughter will be 35 in 2050. I grieve that she will know silent and empty places

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/nov/19/my-granddaughter-will-be-35-in-2050-i-grieve-that-she-will-know-silent-and-empty-places

Worth repeating from the above article.

>>We are living in the Anthropocene, a period in the Earth’s history in which we humans have altered all the systems that support life on Earth. We are destroying the habitat that we and our fellow creatures need to survive. We live on a finite planet, yet we behave as if an increasing global population can continue to consume the Earth’s resources from forests and fisheries to fossil fuels at an accelerating rate and nothing will change. When I was born in 1953, the global population was 2.5 billion; it is now over 7 billion, and by 2050 it is projected to be more than 9 billion.

If everyone consumes at the current rate of those of us in the developed world, why would we think that anything other than a reduced number of humans will have a place to live? When you add to that the impact of invasive species and overlay it with global warming, changing the climate and threatening food and water security for everything from plankton, plants and insects to reptiles, birds, animals and humans, you cannot escape the fact that we are living in the sixth wave of extinction and destroying our own home.<<

Yet we still put shit on Greens like Christine.

I have apologised to Sarah for not working hard enough to secure a good planet for Henry. We were saying at the time that we must think about our grandchildren. And now the grandchildren are here and things are so much worse.

Yes she was a very good communicator, being able to present complicated issues simply and cut through all the political crap.

PermeateFree said:

sarahs mum said:

PermeateFree said:

Worth repeating from the above article.

>>We are living in the Anthropocene, a period in the Earth’s history in which we humans have altered all the systems that support life on Earth. We are destroying the habitat that we and our fellow creatures need to survive. We live on a finite planet, yet we behave as if an increasing global population can continue to consume the Earth’s resources from forests and fisheries to fossil fuels at an accelerating rate and nothing will change. When I was born in 1953, the global population was 2.5 billion; it is now over 7 billion, and by 2050 it is projected to be more than 9 billion.

If everyone consumes at the current rate of those of us in the developed world, why would we think that anything other than a reduced number of humans will have a place to live? When you add to that the impact of invasive species and overlay it with global warming, changing the climate and threatening food and water security for everything from plankton, plants and insects to reptiles, birds, animals and humans, you cannot escape the fact that we are living in the sixth wave of extinction and destroying our own home.<<

Yet we still put shit on Greens like Christine.

I have apologised to Sarah for not working hard enough to secure a good planet for Henry. We were saying at the time that we must think about our grandchildren. And now the grandchildren are here and things are so much worse.

Yes she was a very good communicator, being able to present complicated issues simply and cut through all the political crap.

Agree.

sarahs mum said:

PermeateFree said:

sarahs mum said:

My granddaughter will be 35 in 2050. I grieve that she will know silent and empty places

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/nov/19/my-granddaughter-will-be-35-in-2050-i-grieve-that-she-will-know-silent-and-empty-places

Worth repeating from the above article.

>>We are living in the Anthropocene, a period in the Earth’s history in which we humans have altered all the systems that support life on Earth. We are destroying the habitat that we and our fellow creatures need to survive. We live on a finite planet, yet we behave as if an increasing global population can continue to consume the Earth’s resources from forests and fisheries to fossil fuels at an accelerating rate and nothing will change. When I was born in 1953, the global population was 2.5 billion; it is now over 7 billion, and by 2050 it is projected to be more than 9 billion.

If everyone consumes at the current rate of those of us in the developed world, why would we think that anything other than a reduced number of humans will have a place to live? When you add to that the impact of invasive species and overlay it with global warming, changing the climate and threatening food and water security for everything from plankton, plants and insects to reptiles, birds, animals and humans, you cannot escape the fact that we are living in the sixth wave of extinction and destroying our own home.<<

Yet we still put shit on Greens like Christine.

I have apologised to Sarah for not working hard enough to secure a good planet for Henry. We were saying at the time that we must think about our grandchildren. And now the grandchildren are here and things are so much worse.

You could not have done anything more, there is virtually nothing the individual can do. It is our way of life that is to blame; it has served us well and enabled us to produce more healthy off-spring, but now it is coming back to haunt us. There is noway back even if we were prepared to give up most of our comforts.

It was probably our expanding population that forced us into agriculture 10,000 years ago, very likely the land had too many hunters and not enough catchable prey species, we took the easy way out to produce more food and more children.

The hunter/gatherer lifestyle was by far the most healthy, but its days were numbered unless you had a small population on a large body of land. These were either too difficult to reach (like Australia) or due to various factors, too difficult to survive.

PermeateFree said:

sarahs mum said:

PermeateFree said:

Worth repeating from the above article.

>>We are living in the Anthropocene, a period in the Earth’s history in which we humans have altered all the systems that support life on Earth. We are destroying the habitat that we and our fellow creatures need to survive. We live on a finite planet, yet we behave as if an increasing global population can continue to consume the Earth’s resources from forests and fisheries to fossil fuels at an accelerating rate and nothing will change. When I was born in 1953, the global population was 2.5 billion; it is now over 7 billion, and by 2050 it is projected to be more than 9 billion.

If everyone consumes at the current rate of those of us in the developed world, why would we think that anything other than a reduced number of humans will have a place to live? When you add to that the impact of invasive species and overlay it with global warming, changing the climate and threatening food and water security for everything from plankton, plants and insects to reptiles, birds, animals and humans, you cannot escape the fact that we are living in the sixth wave of extinction and destroying our own home.<<

Yet we still put shit on Greens like Christine.

I have apologised to Sarah for not working hard enough to secure a good planet for Henry. We were saying at the time that we must think about our grandchildren. And now the grandchildren are here and things are so much worse.

You could not have done anything more, there is virtually nothing the individual can do. It is our way of life that is to blame; it has served us well and enabled us to produce more healthy off-spring, but now it is coming back to haunt us. There is noway back even if we were prepared to give up most of our comforts.

It was probably our expanding population that forced us into agriculture 10,000 years ago, very likely the land had too many hunters and not enough catchable prey species, we took the easy way out to produce more food and more children.

The hunter/gatherer lifestyle was by far the most healthy, but its days were numbered unless you had a small population on a large body of land. These were either too difficult to reach (like Australia) or due to various factors, too difficult to survive.

It is all we can do to change our own lifestyle and thus hope that this may cause others to reflect upon what you have done and why.

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

sarahs mum said:

Yet we still put shit on Greens like Christine.

I have apologised to Sarah for not working hard enough to secure a good planet for Henry. We were saying at the time that we must think about our grandchildren. And now the grandchildren are here and things are so much worse.

You could not have done anything more, there is virtually nothing the individual can do. It is our way of life that is to blame; it has served us well and enabled us to produce more healthy off-spring, but now it is coming back to haunt us. There is noway back even if we were prepared to give up most of our comforts.

It was probably our expanding population that forced us into agriculture 10,000 years ago, very likely the land had too many hunters and not enough catchable prey species, we took the easy way out to produce more food and more children.

The hunter/gatherer lifestyle was by far the most healthy, but its days were numbered unless you had a small population on a large body of land. These were either too difficult to reach (like Australia) or due to various factors, too difficult to survive.

It is all we can do to change our own lifestyle and thus hope that this may cause others to reflect upon what you have done and why.

It cannot work that way, there are simply too many of us.

PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

You could not have done anything more, there is virtually nothing the individual can do. It is our way of life that is to blame; it has served us well and enabled us to produce more healthy off-spring, but now it is coming back to haunt us. There is noway back even if we were prepared to give up most of our comforts.

It was probably our expanding population that forced us into agriculture 10,000 years ago, very likely the land had too many hunters and not enough catchable prey species, we took the easy way out to produce more food and more children.

The hunter/gatherer lifestyle was by far the most healthy, but its days were numbered unless you had a small population on a large body of land. These were either too difficult to reach (like Australia) or due to various factors, too difficult to survive.

It is all we can do to change our own lifestyle and thus hope that this may cause others to reflect upon what you have done and why.

It cannot work that way, there are simply too many of us.

More to the point, we don’t have enough time.

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

It is all we can do to change our own lifestyle and thus hope that this may cause others to reflect upon what you have done and why.

It cannot work that way, there are simply too many of us.

More to the point, we don’t have enough time.

I worried about this coming bushfire season.

> My granddaughter will be 35 in 2050. I grieve that she will know silent and empty places

Isn’t that completely arse about? There are two many bloody people and they’re too bloody noisy. It should be:

My granddaughter will be 35 in 2050. I grieve that she will NEVER know silent and empty places.

mollwollfumble said:

> My granddaughter will be 35 in 2050. I grieve that she will know silent and empty places

Isn’t that completely arse about? There are two many bloody people and they’re too bloody noisy. It should be:

My granddaughter will be 35 in 2050. I grieve that she will NEVER know silent and empty places.

Who cares about the fucking humans. I believe that sm was referring more in the vein of silent spring. It is going to be fucking lonely in the last hours.

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

> My granddaughter will be 35 in 2050. I grieve that she will know silent and empty places

Isn’t that completely arse about? There are two many bloody people and they’re too bloody noisy. It should be:

My granddaughter will be 35 in 2050. I grieve that she will NEVER know silent and empty places.

Who cares about the fucking humans. I believe that sm was referring more in the vein of silent spring. It is going to be fucking lonely in the last hours.

Well, sure, but the heat death of the universe is a long way off.

More seriously, I firmly believe that noise pollution is a serious environmental problem. And light pollution is even worse, killing hundreds of millions of animals every year.

mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

> My granddaughter will be 35 in 2050. I grieve that she will know silent and empty places

Isn’t that completely arse about? There are two many bloody people and they’re too bloody noisy. It should be:

My granddaughter will be 35 in 2050. I grieve that she will NEVER know silent and empty places.

Who cares about the fucking humans. I believe that sm was referring more in the vein of silent spring. It is going to be fucking lonely in the last hours.

Well, sure, but the heat death of the universe is a long way off.

More seriously, I firmly believe that noise pollution is a serious environmental problem. And light pollution is even worse, killing hundreds of millions of animals every year.

Whatever, Here we sit in dismal bliss, paid twopence and only farted. Ignorance is our fort`e.

I didn’t realise the animals were Brexiting as well…

Kothos said:

I didn’t realise the animals were Brexiting as well…

They are leaving Europe by dying.