For all your comments and chat related to the great race. 1000 km of V8 Supercars at Mt Panorama.
Happy Bathurst day everybody.
Enjoy it, race fans.
Not my cup of tea. Other stuff to do.
Michael V said:
For all your comments and chat related to the great race. 1000 km of V8 Supercars at Mt Panorama.Happy Bathurst day everybody.
just like being there…
Michael V said:
Happy Bathurst day everybody.
Bahh humbug.
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Michael V said:
For all your comments and chat related to the great race. 1000 km of V8 Supercars at Mt Panorama.Happy Bathurst day everybody.
just like being there…
I understand that there’s still a brisk trade in ‘genuine’ bits of the Berlin Wall, too.
AwesomeO said:
Michael V said:Happy Bathurst day everybody.
Bahh humbug.
Still stuck in The Alfred?
Bugger.
TV available?
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Michael V said:
For all your comments and chat related to the great race. 1000 km of V8 Supercars at Mt Panorama.Happy Bathurst day everybody.
just like being there…
I may have ridden over that.
Michael V said:
AwesomeO said:
Michael V said:Happy Bathurst day everybody.
Bahh humbug.
Still stuck in The Alfred?
Bugger.
TV available?
Tiny TV and no beer makes Homer something something.
AwesomeO said:
Michael V said:
AwesomeO said:Bahh humbug.
Still stuck in The Alfred?
Bugger.
TV available?
Tiny TV and no beer makes Homer something something.
Still, better than no TV at all.
Warm-up lap.
Michael V said:
Warm-up lap.
not quite..
give it another 25 minutes
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Michael V said:
Warm-up lap.
not quite..
give it another 25 minutes
Apologies. Out-lap.
Michael V said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Michael V said:
Warm-up lap.
not quite..
give it another 25 minutes
Apologies. Out-lap.
don’t be so reckless…
:P
I used to watch Bathurst back in the days when the cars didn’t all look identical, and when it could actually be used as a guide to which brand of car had better endurance.
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Michael V said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:not quite..
give it another 25 minutes
Apologies. Out-lap.
don’t be so reckless…
:P
:)
Strange choice of song.
All set
You’ve buggered Pit Straight.
mollwollfumble said:
I used to watch Bathurst back in the days when the cars didn’t all look identical, and when it could actually be used as a guide to which brand of car had better endurance.
whale racing.
mollwollfumble said:
I used to watch Bathurst back in the days when the cars didn’t all look identical, and when it could actually be used as a guide to which brand of car had better endurance.
how many bathurst winning models have you owned?
the reverand Gary Coleman…
Stumpy I want a site where I can look at the current position of the cars live but I don’t want video.
Can you help?
Over.
VROOM………. VROOM VROOM VROOM…………… VROOM…….. VROOM VROOM VROOM VROOM……………….VROOM
Peak Warming Man said:
Stumpy I want a site where I can look at the current position of the cars live but I don’t want video.
Can you help?
Over.
not without signing up and paying.
I watch this page
http://www.supercars.com/live-timing/
green flag, green flag
They’re lining up for the start.
:)
Clean first and second laps. Nice.
:)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-07/live-blog-bathurst-1000/10346600?section=sport
This one tells me enough for free.
whoever is on the swear censor button must’ve fallen asleep…
Stumpy_seahorse said:
whoever is on the swear censor button must’ve fallen asleep…
I missed it. What happened?
Michael V said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:
whoever is on the swear censor button must’ve fallen asleep…
I missed it. What happened?
Cam Waters..
“we just got fucked up by a fucking teammate..”
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Michael V said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:
whoever is on the swear censor button must’ve fallen asleep…
I missed it. What happened?
Cam Waters..
“we just got fucked up by a fucking teammate..”
May as well say it as you feel it.
Peak Warming Man said:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-07/live-blog-bathurst-1000/10346600?section=sportThis one tells me enough for free.
This one’s not bad Mr Man. Takes a while to work out what each column means, and theh colours, but.
Safety Car!
Michael V said:
Safety Car!
this’ll bring the fords back into the game
Michael V said:
Safety Car!
So, pit-stop racing now.
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Michael V said:
Safety Car!
this’ll bring the fords back into the game
That’s OK, they’ll drop out of it again quickly enough.
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
Safety Car!
So, pit-stop racing now.
I like the pit-stop, fuel stop strategy racing especially toward the end when teams are gambling on a safety car to make it fuel wise.
you picked a fine time to leave me loose wheel…..
Stumpy_seahorse said:
you picked a fine time to leave me loose wheel…..
there’s never a good time for the wheels to fall off.
Stumpy_seahorse said:
you picked a fine time to leave me loose wheel…..
Ha!
:)
what lap are you guys up to over there?
Just checking if we’re getting live or delayed telecast here in WA.
we’re at lap 50 right now
One of the Armidale mob who fairly regularly went to Bathurst died earlier this year (circumstances unclear). I went there twice with Jonny as part of the mob (once camping on the Mountain, once in the Paddock). Here’s Rick’s tribute attached to the annual campsite in the paddock.
party_pants said:
what lap are you guys up to over there?Just checking if we’re getting live or delayed telecast here in WA.
we’re at lap 50 right now
lap 51 now.
party_pants said:
what lap are you guys up to over there?Just checking if we’re getting live or delayed telecast here in WA.
we’re at lap 50 right now
51 on fox
Stumpy_seahorse said:
you picked a fine time to leave me loose wheel…..
groan
we seem to have skipped laps 52 and 53 during the ad break
fuck there’s so many ad breaks. Had the telly on for 15 minutes and I have only watched about 3 minutes of racing.
party_pants said:
we seem to have skipped laps 52 and 53 during the ad breakfuck there’s so many ad breaks. Had the telly on for 15 minutes and I have only watched about 3 minutes of racing.
3 minutes of racing? That’s six 30-second TV ads.
You can’t expect the TV station to provide more than that per quarter-hour to the sponsor names plastered on the cars. They have paying advertisers to satisfy.
A former work colleague goes there every year to work as a track marshall.
There’s a camera mounted above and alongside the straight that goes past the pit stop and stands – he told me they call it the Dropbear.
party_pants said:
we seem to have skipped laps 52 and 53 during the ad breakfuck there’s so many ad breaks. Had the telly on for 15 minutes and I have only watched about 3 minutes of racing.
that’s shit..
at least fox is ad free
Neophyte said:
A former work colleague goes there every year to work as a track marshall.There’s a camera mounted above and alongside the straight that goes past the pit stop and stands – he told me they call it the Dropbear.
something ‘can-cam’..
they’ve mentioned it going 150kph about a dozen times so far
Rain.
:)
Is it a long weekend in NSW?
I seem to remember that it almost always rains on the October long weekend in NSW.
trouble for 888 and 17
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Michael V said:
For all your comments and chat related to the great race. 1000 km of V8 Supercars at Mt Panorama.Happy Bathurst day everybody.
just like being there…
Anzac looks incredibly impressed…
Stumpy_seahorse said:
trouble for 888 and 17
Odd.
In Chinese numerology 8 is the luckiest number. Even 1 and 7 add up to 8.
They need to get Chinese drivers.
buffy said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Michael V said:
For all your comments and chat related to the great race. 1000 km of V8 Supercars at Mt Panorama.Happy Bathurst day everybody.
just like being there…
Anzac looks incredibly impressed…
he’d rather be getting in the way of physical activities..
captain_spalding said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:
trouble for 888 and 17
Odd.
In Chinese numerology 8 is the luckiest number. Even 1 and 7 add up to 8.
They need to get Chinese drivers.
I don’t think “more Asian drivers” fits the target demographic
I normally cheer for Holden but this year is the last for the Ford V8’s so I’ll give myself permission to cheer for the Fords today.
Who are the contending ford drivers?
Peak Warming Man said:
I normally cheer for Holden but this year is the last for the Ford V8’s so I’ll give myself permission to cheer for the Fords today.
Who are the contending ford drivers?
Mostert and Mclaughlin.
Coulthard an outside chance on a different strategy
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I normally cheer for Holden but this year is the last for the Ford V8’s so I’ll give myself permission to cheer for the Fords today.
Who are the contending ford drivers?
Mostert and Mclaughlin.
Coulthard an outside chance on a different strategy
Roger that.
The engineering of those cars ears only superficial resemblance to production models, does it not?
captain_spalding said:
The engineering of those cars ears only superficial resemblance to production models, does it not?
for ‘ears’ read ‘bears’.
captain_spalding said:
The engineering of those cars ears only superficial resemblance to production models, does it not?
I think the Holden Special Racing cars were close.
captain_spalding said:
The engineering of those cars ears only superficial resemblance to production models, does it not?
the headlight and tail light lenses and badges are off the road going cars, that’s it
Peak Warming Man said:
I normally cheer for Holden but this year is the last for the Ford V8’s so I’ll give myself permission to cheer for the Fords today.
Who are the contending ford drivers?
None.
AwesomeO said:
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
Safety Car!
So, pit-stop racing now.
I like the pit-stop, fuel stop strategy racing especially toward the end when teams are gambling on a safety car to make it fuel wise.
Yes, about the only interesting bit these days although those wheel changers look like they’re half asleep compared to F1.
Well it’s raining and yellow.
So should I stay out and edge the Triton closer to the front as the others pull in or should I pull in, change to wets and top up with fuel and allow the power and torque of the Triton 3.2 litre engine do the rest up the mountain?
Stumpy_seahorse said:
captain_spalding said:
The engineering of those cars ears only superficial resemblance to production models, does it not?
the headlight and tail light lenses and badges are off the road going cars, that’s it
That’s what puzzles me.
Fans rave on about ‘Ford’ and ‘Holden’, as if they were the kind of cars that Ford and Holden make and sell, claiming that the results of the race demonstrate Frd’s superiority over Holden or vice versa..
But, they’re not. They’re specialised racing machines which just happen to have a kevlar shell over the top that looks something like a Holden or a Ford. Swap th shells around and no one would be the wiser.
If i put a kevlar shell that looks like an old Valiant station wagon over a Formula 1 chassis, is it a Valiant?
Peak Warming Man said:
Well it’s raining and yellow.
So should I stay out and edge the Triton closer to the front as the others pull in or should I pull in, change to wets and top up with fuel and allow the power and torque of the Triton 3.2 litre engine do the rest up the mountain?
not damp enough for wets yet.. although, it is a triton and could get bogged on bituumin…
Peak Warming Man said:
Well it’s raining and yellow.
So should I stay out and edge the Triton closer to the front as the others pull in or should I pull in, change to wets and top up with fuel and allow the power and torque of the Triton 3.2 litre engine do the rest up the mountain?
Run it into a tyre bank and go to the showers early.
captain_spalding said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:
captain_spalding said:
The engineering of those cars ears only superficial resemblance to production models, does it not?
the headlight and tail light lenses and badges are off the road going cars, that’s it
That’s what puzzles me.
Fans rave on about ‘Ford’ and ‘Holden’, as if they were the kind of cars that Ford and Holden make and sell, claiming that the results of the race demonstrate Frd’s superiority over Holden or vice versa..
But, they’re not. They’re specialised racing machines which just happen to have a kevlar shell over the top that looks something like a Holden or a Ford. Swap th shells around and no one would be the wiser.
If i put a kevlar shell that looks like an old Valiant station wagon over a Formula 1 chassis, is it a Valiant?
the engines are still built ford, nissan or chev, just not like their road going counterparts.
and each shell shape has it’s own pros and cons aerodynamically
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Well it’s raining and yellow.
So should I stay out and edge the Triton closer to the front as the others pull in or should I pull in, change to wets and top up with fuel and allow the power and torque of the Triton 3.2 litre engine do the rest up the mountain?
Run it into a tyre bank and go to the showers early.
Well as long as I get interviewed and the cameras catch the PeterT Ministries logo.
Stumpy_seahorse said:
the engines are still built ford, nissan or chev, just not like their road going counterparts.
and each shell shape has it’s own pros and cons aerodynamically
OK, i can see that.
Here’s a Bolwell Nagari Mk X:
Here’s a Bolwell Nagari Mk VIII
The latter has a Ford engine, with some bits from an Austin 1800 in it.
The former has a Toyota engine, and incorporates some bits from Honda.
Would they be raced as Ford, Toyota, or Bolwell?
Peak Warming Man said:
Well it’s raining and yellow.
So should I stay out and edge the Triton closer to the front as the others pull in or should I pull in, change to wets and top up with fuel and allow the power and torque of the Triton 3.2 litre engine do the rest up the mountain?
Pull in. Don’t be sprayed by yellow rain.
captain_spalding said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:the engines are still built ford, nissan or chev, just not like their road going counterparts.
and each shell shape has it’s own pros and cons aerodynamically
OK, i can see that.
Here’s a Bolwell Nagari Mk X:
Here’s a Bolwell Nagari Mk VIII
The latter has a Ford engine, with some bits from an Austin 1800 in it.
The former has a Toyota engine, and incorporates some bits from Honda.
Would they be raced as Ford, Toyota, or Bolwell?
ford falcon? or nissan skyline?
In any case, the Bolwell doesn’t fit the rules, so the point is moot.
The thing I’ve noticed with Bubblecar is he’s happy to talk on the morning of the race but once the race starts you wont hear boo from him until the checked flag goes down.
I have a painted surface that I need to watch dry.
gaghalfrunt said:
I have a painted surface that I need to watch dry.
BURN HIM!!!
Witty Rejoinder said:
gaghalfrunt said:
I have a painted surface that I need to watch dry.
BURN HIM!!!
pfft…
‘sif he’d do any manual work with those scrawny arms…
> If i put a kevlar shell that looks like an old Valiant station wagon over a Formula 1 chassis, is it a Valiant?
So long as it fools the cops, man.
captain_spalding said:
If i put a kevlar shell that looks like an old Valiant station wagon over a Formula 1 chassis, is it a Valiant?
It would definitely no longer be a Formula 1 car.
Michael V said:
In any case, the Bolwell doesn’t fit the rules, so the point is moot.
But, the principle is the same.
If we’re assessing what sort of car it is by what’s under the bonnet, then they’re a Ford, or a Toyota. Doesn’t matter what shell you put on it.
If we’re assessing the car by its outward appearance, then it’s neither a Ford or a Toyota.
If i was to put a Ford shell on a Holden Bathurst chassis/engine, is it a Ford, or a Holden?
If it wins with a Holden engine, it it a win for Holden? Or does the shell make it a win for Ford?
How valid is any claim that a Holden or Ford won, given their purely superficial resemblance to the products of those companies?
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
In any case, the Bolwell doesn’t fit the rules, so the point is moot.
But, the principle is the same.
If we’re assessing what sort of car it is by what’s under the bonnet, then they’re a Ford, or a Toyota. Doesn’t matter what shell you put on it.
If we’re assessing the car by its outward appearance, then it’s neither a Ford or a Toyota.
If i was to put a Ford shell on a Holden Bathurst chassis/engine, is it a Ford, or a Holden?
If it wins with a Holden engine, it it a win for Holden? Or does the shell make it a win for Ford?
How valid is any claim that a Holden or Ford won, given their purely superficial resemblance to the products of those companies?
it’s a moot point because in supercars, the engine matches the shell, nissan in altime, chev in commodore, ford in falcon..
all 3 run the same chassis
The bottom line is:
the so-called Ford/Holden rivalry is a marketing ploy, fostered by both companies. It’s an argument about something that does not exist.
captain_spalding said:
The bottom line is:the so-called Ford/Holden rivalry is a marketing ploy, fostered by both companies. It’s an argument about something that does not exist.
it was actually created by the commentary team as their ratings were declining..
Why don’t touring cars have ABS?
Stumpy_seahorse said:
captain_spalding said:
The bottom line is:the so-called Ford/Holden rivalry is a marketing ploy, fostered by both companies. It’s an argument about something that does not exist.
it was actually created by the commentary team as their ratings were declining..
It developed on its own in the 60s and 70s, just based on racing and results. Then it disappeared in the 80s with Japanese and European cars dominating. After which they changed the rules in the 90s or early 2000s to try and bring back the old spirit. Whether it has worked or not is open to debate.
captain_spalding said:
The bottom line is:the so-called Ford/Holden rivalry is a marketing ploy, fostered by both companies. It’s an argument about something that does not exist.
Un-Australian.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
In any case, the Bolwell doesn’t fit the rules, so the point is moot.
But, the principle is the same.
If we’re assessing what sort of car it is by what’s under the bonnet, then they’re a Ford, or a Toyota. Doesn’t matter what shell you put on it.
If we’re assessing the car by its outward appearance, then it’s neither a Ford or a Toyota.
If i was to put a Ford shell on a Holden Bathurst chassis/engine, is it a Ford, or a Holden?
If it wins with a Holden engine, it it a win for Holden? Or does the shell make it a win for Ford?
How valid is any claim that a Holden or Ford won, given their purely superficial resemblance to the products of those companies?
Questions that man has asked since the dawn of time.
Rule 303 said:
Why don’t touring cars have ABS?
puts more emphasis on the driver’s skill.
GT cars have ABS, as do many international enduro cars
Rule 303 said:
captain_spalding said:
The bottom line is:the so-called Ford/Holden rivalry is a marketing ploy, fostered by both companies. It’s an argument about something that does not exist.
Un-Australian.
It’s OK Rule I’ve got this one.
I’ve put together enough information for the AFP to track him down.
Wow!
party_pants said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:
captain_spalding said:
The bottom line is:the so-called Ford/Holden rivalry is a marketing ploy, fostered by both companies. It’s an argument about something that does not exist.
it was actually created by the commentary team as their ratings were declining..
It developed on its own in the 60s and 70s, just based on racing and results. Then it disappeared in the 80s with Japanese and European cars dominating. After which they changed the rules in the 90s or early 2000s to try and bring back the old spirit. Whether it has worked or not is open to debate.
It was the brainchild of Mike Raymond et al in a channel 7 meeting after their viewing audience numbers started to plummet, it was a year or 2 before the rusults were there and the manufacturers got on board. Before then it was delership versus dealership
I like the GT cars these days, Porsche not so much.
Looks like someone’s done a hemi.
Rule 303 said:
Why don’t touring cars have ABS?
Because ABS increases braking distance.
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:
captain_spalding said:
The bottom line is:the so-called Ford/Holden rivalry is a marketing ploy, fostered by both companies. It’s an argument about something that does not exist.
Un-Australian.
It’s OK Rule I’ve got this one.
I’ve put together enough information for the AFP to track him down.
Good work.
Peak Warming Man said:
Looks like someone’s done a hemi.
Oh, they can fix that easily. Admitted, prepped and zonked, op with a bit of mesh inserted, stitch you up, go home same day.
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Rule 303 said:
Why don’t touring cars have ABS?
puts more emphasis on the driver’s skill.
GT cars have ABS, as do many international enduro cars
Hmmm…
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Why don’t touring cars have ABS?
Because ABS increases braking distance.
On bitumen? Surely not… ?
Rule 303 said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Rule 303 said:
Why don’t touring cars have ABS?
puts more emphasis on the driver’s skill.
GT cars have ABS, as do many international enduro cars
Hmmm…
using ABS as opposed to braking correctly, lots more distance
Energy drink sponsorship points…
AwesomeO said:
Energy drink sponsorship points…
Could be or Russian meddling like in MKR.
Surely ABS is designed for noobs and young females who dont know how to control their braking. I can imagine it would only be a hindrance for an experienced racing car driver.
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Rule 303 said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:puts more emphasis on the driver’s skill.
GT cars have ABS, as do many international enduro cars
Hmmm…
using ABS as opposed to braking correctly, lots more distance
I’ve heard the theory before, but ABS is getting up around 25 cycles/second (the only figures I could find on a brief search were 15-25), which is a hell of a lot faster than a human foot is capable of.
gaghalfrunt said:
Surely ABS is designed for noobs and young females who dont know how to control their braking. I can imagine it would only be a hindrance for an experienced racing car driver.
it just saves you having to pulse the brakes yourself if you go into a corner too hard
They didn’t replace Reynolds?
He’ll end up putting it into a wall.
Rule 303 said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Rule 303 said:Hmmm…
using ABS as opposed to braking correctly, lots more distance
I’ve heard the theory before, but ABS is getting up around 25 cycles/second (the only figures I could find on a brief search were 15-25), which is a hell of a lot faster than a human foot is capable of.
as opposed to 0 cycles if braking correctly?
v=big difference
gaghalfrunt said:
Surely ABS is designed for noobs and young females who dont know how to control their braking. I can imagine it would only be a hindrance for an experienced racing car driver.
Modern systems provide lock-up control on all wheels independently @ 25 times a second.
Just sayin’.
Rule 303 said:
gaghalfrunt said:
Surely ABS is designed for noobs and young females who dont know how to control their braking. I can imagine it would only be a hindrance for an experienced racing car driver.
Modern systems provide lock-up control on all wheels independently @ 25 times a second.
Just sayin’.
when braking properly, you don’t lock the wheels…
Just sayin’.
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Rule 303 said:
gaghalfrunt said:
Surely ABS is designed for noobs and young females who dont know how to control their braking. I can imagine it would only be a hindrance for an experienced racing car driver.
Modern systems provide lock-up control on all wheels independently @ 25 times a second.
Just sayin’.
when braking properly, you don’t lock the wheels…
Just sayin’.
Seems to be a lot of blokes not braking properly today.
Just sayin’.
8-)
Rule 303 said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Rule 303 said:Modern systems provide lock-up control on all wheels independently @ 25 times a second.
Just sayin’.
when braking properly, you don’t lock the wheels…
Just sayin’.
Seems to be a lot of blokes not braking properly today.
Just sayin’.
8-)
has anything happened that would’ve been prevented by the car having ABS?
From what I’ve heard, itt’s one of the intricacies of aussie touring cars that international drivers like
Peak Warming Man said:
They didn’t replace Reynolds?
He’ll end up putting it into a wall.
They wouldn’t listen to PWM, they said they knew better and now their race is over.
There’s a lesson there for all of you.
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Rule 303 said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:when braking properly, you don’t lock the wheels…
Just sayin’.
Seems to be a lot of blokes not braking properly today.
Just sayin’.
8-)
has anything happened that would’ve been prevented by the car having ABS?
From what I’ve heard, itt’s one of the intricacies of aussie touring cars that international drivers like
I don’t know.
Had an abs situation a few months ago.
Pedestrian walked out in front of me through a red light. Too busy looking at her mobile phone to worry about her life.
Instinctively slammed on the brakes (in the rain). Without ABS I reckon I would have run the silly bitch over and damaged my car.
So I reckon ABS has its place but not in motor racing where these guys should be relying on their skill. (isn’t that the whole point of racing?)
gaghalfrunt said:
Had an abs situation a few months ago.
Pedestrian walked out in front of me through a red light. Too busy looking at her mobile phone to worry about her life.
Instinctively slammed on the brakes (in the rain). Without ABS I reckon I would have run the silly bitch over and damaged my car.
So I reckon ABS has its place but not in motor racing where these guys should be relying on their skill. (isn’t that the whole point of racing?)
I think it*can* be good in racing, but like they have done here, either decide yes or no to it, then stick with the decision and have that as a defining point of your category.
V8SC decided no, so the development series didn’t have it, tier 3 doesn’t, the v8 utes idn’t have it, TCM has followed the same
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Rule 303 said:
gaghalfrunt said:
Surely ABS is designed for noobs and young females who dont know how to control their braking. I can imagine it would only be a hindrance for an experienced racing car driver.
Modern systems provide lock-up control on all wheels independently @ 25 times a second.
Just sayin’.
when braking properly, you don’t lock the wheels…
Just sayin’.
This.
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
They didn’t replace Reynolds?
He’ll end up putting it into a wall.
They wouldn’t listen to PWM, they said they knew better and now their race is over.
There’s a lesson there for all of you.
Yeah, what were they thinking?
Michael V said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Rule 303 said:Modern systems provide lock-up control on all wheels independently @ 25 times a second.
Just sayin’.
when braking properly, you don’t lock the wheels…
Just sayin’.
This.
Elite drivers must have amazing sensitivity and control if they can out-perform the above spec in a maximal breaking situation. Really… astonishing.
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:when braking properly, you don’t lock the wheels…
Just sayin’.
This.
Elite drivers must have amazing sensitivity and control if they can out-perform the above spec in a maximal breaking situation. Really… astonishing.
your maximal breaking situation will always be without locking the brakes, so the ABS isn’t operational in that event, so I don’t know how a driver can’t out-perform something that is inactie..
ABS is a safety net, not a useful tool for getting around a corner.
In cars with ABS, I can assure you any driver worth their salt will be doing what they can to not use it
ABS is not about stopping fast, it’s about not locking wheels so you can drive around an obstacle.
Stumpy_seahorse said:
your maximal breaking situation will always be without locking the brakes, so the ABS isn’t operational in that event, so I don’t know how a driver can’t out-perform something that is inactie..
Not sure I understand here. By ‘maximal braking’ I mean when a driver needs the quickest way to slow the vehicle. We’ve been watching cars all day spewing tyre smoke because they’re locking up in maximal braking efforts. Is that what you mean?
Stumpy_seahorse said:
ABS is a safety net, not a useful tool for getting around a corner.
In cars with ABS, I can assure you any driver worth their salt will be doing what they can to not use it
OK, I can see why 25/sec might not be fast enough for high speed corners. That could really affect your line. Although… If it’s fully independent, it’s going to be the wheel that’s doing the least (lowest downforce)… Hmmmm…
Rule 303 said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:
your maximal breaking situation will always be without locking the brakes, so the ABS isn’t operational in that event, so I don’t know how a driver can’t out-perform something that is inactie..
Not sure I understand here. By ‘maximal braking’ I mean when a driver needs the quickest way to slow the vehicle. We’ve been watching cars all day spewing tyre smoke because they’re locking up in maximal braking efforts. Is that what you mean?
Stumpy_seahorse said:
ABS is a safety net, not a useful tool for getting around a corner.
In cars with ABS, I can assure you any driver worth their salt will be doing what they can to not use itOK, I can see why 25/sec might not be fast enough for high speed corners. That could really affect your line. Although… If it’s fully independent, it’s going to be the wheel that’s doing the least (lowest downforce)… Hmmmm…
I don’t think you quite understand the use of ABS.
you do not hit the brakes wanting to engage the ABS, the quickest way to slow the vehicle is still to brake without the ABS engaging. by quite a lot in racing terms.
when a tyre is ‘spewing smoke’ just as when ABS operates is not a ‘maximal braking effort’, it is going too hard, the consequence without ABS it a flat spotted tyre, the consequence with ABS is the vehicle taking longer in both time and distance to slow down
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Rule 303 said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:
your maximal breaking situation will always be without locking the brakes, so the ABS isn’t operational in that event, so I don’t know how a driver can’t out-perform something that is inactie..
Not sure I understand here. By ‘maximal braking’ I mean when a driver needs the quickest way to slow the vehicle. We’ve been watching cars all day spewing tyre smoke because they’re locking up in maximal braking efforts. Is that what you mean?
Stumpy_seahorse said:
ABS is a safety net, not a useful tool for getting around a corner.
In cars with ABS, I can assure you any driver worth their salt will be doing what they can to not use itOK, I can see why 25/sec might not be fast enough for high speed corners. That could really affect your line. Although… If it’s fully independent, it’s going to be the wheel that’s doing the least (lowest downforce)… Hmmmm…
I don’t think you quite understand the use of ABS.
you do not hit the brakes wanting to engage the ABS, the quickest way to slow the vehicle is still to brake without the ABS engaging. by quite a lot in racing terms.when a tyre is ‘spewing smoke’ just as when ABS operates is not a ‘maximal braking effort’, it is going too hard, the consequence without ABS it a flat spotted tyre, the consequence with ABS is the vehicle taking longer in both time and distance to slow down
And I can guarantee you that if ABS was the fastest way to slow down the vehicle, GT racers in cars that have ABS would be slamming the brake pedal to the firewall at every corner.. as would every boy racer on the public streets.
you don’t get into a car, think ‘I have ABS’ and slam on the brakes every time you need to slow down.. You get in knowing that when you run out of talent, you will still have control of the front wheels and can retain a degree of control
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Rule 303 said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:
your maximal breaking situation will always be without locking the brakes, so the ABS isn’t operational in that event, so I don’t know how a driver can’t out-perform something that is inactie..
Not sure I understand here. By ‘maximal braking’ I mean when a driver needs the quickest way to slow the vehicle. We’ve been watching cars all day spewing tyre smoke because they’re locking up in maximal braking efforts. Is that what you mean?
Stumpy_seahorse said:
ABS is a safety net, not a useful tool for getting around a corner.
In cars with ABS, I can assure you any driver worth their salt will be doing what they can to not use itOK, I can see why 25/sec might not be fast enough for high speed corners. That could really affect your line. Although… If it’s fully independent, it’s going to be the wheel that’s doing the least (lowest downforce)… Hmmmm…
I don’t think you quite understand the use of ABS.
you do not hit the brakes wanting to engage the ABS, the quickest way to slow the vehicle is still to brake without the ABS engaging. by quite a lot in racing terms.when a tyre is ‘spewing smoke’ just as when ABS operates is not a ‘maximal braking effort’, it is going too hard, the consequence without ABS it a flat spotted tyre, the consequence with ABS is the vehicle taking longer in both time and distance to slow down
I do understand it, and I would really like to see some expert testing.
;-)
Rule 303 said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Rule 303 said:OK, I can see why 25/sec might not be fast enough for high speed corners. That could really affect your line. Although… If it’s fully independent, it’s going to be the wheel that’s doing the least (lowest downforce)… Hmmmm…
I don’t think you quite understand the use of ABS.
you do not hit the brakes wanting to engage the ABS, the quickest way to slow the vehicle is still to brake without the ABS engaging. by quite a lot in racing terms.when a tyre is ‘spewing smoke’ just as when ABS operates is not a ‘maximal braking effort’, it is going too hard, the consequence without ABS it a flat spotted tyre, the consequence with ABS is the vehicle taking longer in both time and distance to slow down
I do understand it, and I would really like to see some expert testing.
;-)
>>Anti-lock braking system (ABS) is a system that helps prevent the wheels of your car from locking, thus preventing your car from skidding out of control. … With ABS braking, however, the brakes don’t lock up and stopping distance is therefore increased, causing the likelihood of a collision to increase.<<
https://carsafetyphysics.weebly.com/anti-lock-brakes-vs-normal-brakes—benefits-and-limitations.html
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:This.
Elite drivers must have amazing sensitivity and control if they can out-perform the above spec in a maximal breaking situation. Really… astonishing.
your maximal breaking situation will always be without locking the brakes, so the ABS isn’t operational in that event, so I don’t know how a driver can’t out-perform something that is inactie..
ABS is a safety net, not a useful tool for getting around a corner.
In cars with ABS, I can assure you any driver worth their salt will be doing what they can to not use it
Yes.
And now it’s channel ONE – MotoGP.
PermeateFree said:
>>Anti-lock braking system (ABS) is a system that helps prevent the wheels of your car from locking, thus preventing your car from skidding out of control. … With ABS braking, however, the brakes don’t lock up and stopping distance is therefore increased, causing the likelihood of a collision to increase.<<https://carsafetyphysics.weebly.com/anti-lock-brakes-vs-normal-brakes—benefits-and-limitations.html
There are situations where ABS will increase stopping distance (dirt and snow), otherwise, the conclusion is simply incorrect.
Rule 303 said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Rule 303 said:OK, I can see why 25/sec might not be fast enough for high speed corners. That could really affect your line. Although… If it’s fully independent, it’s going to be the wheel that’s doing the least (lowest downforce)… Hmmmm…
I don’t think you quite understand the use of ABS.
you do not hit the brakes wanting to engage the ABS, the quickest way to slow the vehicle is still to brake without the ABS engaging. by quite a lot in racing terms.when a tyre is ‘spewing smoke’ just as when ABS operates is not a ‘maximal braking effort’, it is going too hard, the consequence without ABS it a flat spotted tyre, the consequence with ABS is the vehicle taking longer in both time and distance to slow down
I do understand it, and I would really like to see some expert testing.
;-)
expert testing wouold be good to see.
On paper, the physics disagree with you. ie, tyres have higher static friction than kinetic friction so by saving them from locking up, they will stop the mass faster than if they were skidding
PermeateFree said:
Rule 303 said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:I don’t think you quite understand the use of ABS.
you do not hit the brakes wanting to engage the ABS, the quickest way to slow the vehicle is still to brake without the ABS engaging. by quite a lot in racing terms.when a tyre is ‘spewing smoke’ just as when ABS operates is not a ‘maximal braking effort’, it is going too hard, the consequence without ABS it a flat spotted tyre, the consequence with ABS is the vehicle taking longer in both time and distance to slow down
I do understand it, and I would really like to see some expert testing.
;-)
>>Anti-lock braking system (ABS) is a system that helps prevent the wheels of your car from locking, thus preventing your car from skidding out of control. … With ABS braking, however, the brakes don’t lock up and stopping distance is therefore increased, causing the likelihood of a collision to increase.<<
https://carsafetyphysics.weebly.com/anti-lock-brakes-vs-normal-brakes—benefits-and-limitations.html
>>
if you believe this, you don’t know ABS.
drive down your street and slam on your brakes with ABS, you’ll see the dashed witness marks where te ABS has grabbed and released
Rule 303 said:
>>Anti-lock braking system (ABS) is a system that helps prevent the wheels of your car from locking, thus preventing your car from skidding out of control. ABS also allows you to steer your car while breaking strongly. In wet or icy conditions, where your car has less traction, ABS prevents your car from sliding and crashing as well as maintaining traction and allowing you to steer out of the way of obstacles. ABS has all of these many benefits however many car owners prefer braking without ABS. ABS also has many limitations. On gravel or snow, hard breaking which causes the wheels to lock up is very effective as the locked wheels easily dig into the snow and gravel, stopping the vehicle. With ABS braking, however, the brakes don’t lock up and stopping distance is therefore increased, causing the likelihood of a collision to increase. Some experienced drivers also dislike ABS as they know how to stop in an emergency without locking the wheels in an even shorter distance than with ABS. Some drivers complain that ABS sometimes activates when the brakes are applied very lightly if the car is on a bumpy surface. As most cars equipped with ABS do not have a function that turns ABS off, the people who prefer normal braking to ABS braking do not have the option of turning the function off. <<
PermeateFree said:
>>Anti-lock braking system (ABS) is a system that helps prevent the wheels of your car from locking, thus preventing your car from skidding out of control. … With ABS braking, however, the brakes don’t lock up and stopping distance is therefore increased, causing the likelihood of a collision to increase.<<https://carsafetyphysics.weebly.com/anti-lock-brakes-vs-normal-brakes—benefits-and-limitations.html
There are situations where ABS will increase stopping distance (dirt and snow), otherwise, the conclusion is simply incorrect.
Michael V said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:
your maximal breaking situation will always be without locking the brakes, so the ABS isn’t operational in that event, so I don’t know how a driver can’t out-perform something that is inactie..ABS is a safety net, not a useful tool for getting around a corner.
In cars with ABS, I can assure you any driver worth their salt will be doing what they can to not use itThis should be the easiest claim to test.
Rule 303 said:
PermeateFree said:
>>Anti-lock braking system (ABS) is a system that helps prevent the wheels of your car from locking, thus preventing your car from skidding out of control. … With ABS braking, however, the brakes don’t lock up and stopping distance is therefore increased, causing the likelihood of a collision to increase.<<https://carsafetyphysics.weebly.com/anti-lock-brakes-vs-normal-brakes—benefits-and-limitations.html
There are situations where ABS will increase stopping distance (dirt and snow), otherwise, the conclusion is simply incorrect.
The train of thought is that on loose surfaces, the ABS stopping distance is shorter due to the lower CoF, and hence more likely to skid
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Rule 303 said:
PermeateFree said:
>>Anti-lock braking system (ABS) is a system that helps prevent the wheels of your car from locking, thus preventing your car from skidding out of control. … With ABS braking, however, the brakes don’t lock up and stopping distance is therefore increased, causing the likelihood of a collision to increase.<<https://carsafetyphysics.weebly.com/anti-lock-brakes-vs-normal-brakes—benefits-and-limitations.html
There are situations where ABS will increase stopping distance (dirt and snow), otherwise, the conclusion is simply incorrect.
The train of thought is that on loose surfaces, the ABS stopping distance is shorter due to the lower CoF, and hence more likely to skid
>>On gravel or snow, hard breaking which causes the wheels to lock up is very effective as the locked wheels easily dig into the snow and gravel, stopping the vehicle. With ABS braking, however, the brakes don’t lock up and stopping distance is therefore increased, <<
PermeateFree said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Rule 303 said:There are situations where ABS will increase stopping distance (dirt and snow), otherwise, the conclusion is simply incorrect.
The train of thought is that on loose surfaces, the ABS stopping distance is shorter due to the lower CoF, and hence more likely to skid
>>On gravel or snow, hard breaking which causes the wheels to lock up is very effective as the locked wheels easily dig into the snow and gravel, stopping the vehicle. With ABS braking, however, the brakes don’t lock up and stopping distance is therefore increased, <<
again, if you have ever used ABS, you will know that they will lock, they just don’t hold it. the wheels grab and release, as Rule posted earlier, 25 times/second
Stumpy_seahorse said:
PermeateFree said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:The train of thought is that on loose surfaces, the ABS stopping distance is shorter due to the lower CoF, and hence more likely to skid
>>On gravel or snow, hard breaking which causes the wheels to lock up is very effective as the locked wheels easily dig into the snow and gravel, stopping the vehicle. With ABS braking, however, the brakes don’t lock up and stopping distance is therefore increased, <<
again, if you have ever used ABS, you will know that they will lock, they just don’t hold it. the wheels grab and release, as Rule posted earlier, 25 times/second
Stumpy, they are not my words or opinion, but people who claim to know.
https://carsafetyphysics.weebly.com/anti-lock-brakes-vs-normal-brakes—benefits-and-limitations.html
PermeateFree said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:
PermeateFree said:>>On gravel or snow, hard breaking which causes the wheels to lock up is very effective as the locked wheels easily dig into the snow and gravel, stopping the vehicle. With ABS braking, however, the brakes don’t lock up and stopping distance is therefore increased, <<
again, if you have ever used ABS, you will know that they will lock, they just don’t hold it. the wheels grab and release, as Rule posted earlier, 25 times/second
Stumpy, they are not my words or opinion, but people who claim to know.
https://carsafetyphysics.weebly.com/anti-lock-brakes-vs-normal-brakes—benefits-and-limitations.html
I never said they were your words, but they are questionable.
as I said, do the test yourself, it’s not hard and you like me will wonder why they make these statements
Stumpy_seahorse said:
PermeateFree said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:again, if you have ever used ABS, you will know that they will lock, they just don’t hold it. the wheels grab and release, as Rule posted earlier, 25 times/second
Stumpy, they are not my words or opinion, but people who claim to know.
https://carsafetyphysics.weebly.com/anti-lock-brakes-vs-normal-brakes—benefits-and-limitations.html
I never said they were your words, but they are questionable.
as I said, do the test yourself, it’s not hard and you like me will wonder why they make these statements
In the main, I thought they were in agreement with you.
PermeateFree said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:
PermeateFree said:Stumpy, they are not my words or opinion, but people who claim to know.
https://carsafetyphysics.weebly.com/anti-lock-brakes-vs-normal-brakes—benefits-and-limitations.html
I never said they were your words, but they are questionable.
as I said, do the test yourself, it’s not hard and you like me will wonder why they make these statements
In the main, I thought they were in agreement with you.
they probably are, it was just that sentence that I do not agree with (and see evidence that does not agree with it)
delving into memory banks I think the ABS must not skid more than 12% for Aust Standards, or around that number
How brilliant is Marquez?
Michael V said:
How brilliant is Marquez?
Is he the one who beat MacGregor with a choker hold?
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
How brilliant is Marquez?
Is he the one who beat MacGregor with a choker hold?
No.
But he (Marc Marquez) just beat Andrea Dovisioso in the inaugural Thai MotoGP.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
How brilliant is Marquez?
Is he the one who beat MacGregor with a choker hold?
No.
But he (Marc Marquez) just beat Andrea Dovisioso in the inaugural Thai MotoGP.
Where did The Doctor come?
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:Is he the one who beat MacGregor with a choker hold?
No.
But he (Marc Marquez) just beat Andrea Dovisioso in the inaugural Thai MotoGP.
Where did The Doctor come?
Fourth, after Maverick Vinales.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:No.
But he (Marc Marquez) just beat Andrea Dovisioso in the inaugural Thai MotoGP.
Where did The Doctor come?
Fourth, after Maverick Vinales.
I think it’s time the Doctor made way for the Young Doctors.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:No.
But he (Marc Marquez) just beat Andrea Dovisioso in the inaugural Thai MotoGP.
Where did The Doctor come?
Fourth, after Maverick Vinales.
how did george go?
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:Where did The Doctor come?
Fourth, after Maverick Vinales.
I think it’s time the Doctor made way for the Young Doctors.
He led for quite a bit of the race.
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:Where did The Doctor come?
Fourth, after Maverick Vinales.
how did george go?
Jorge Lorenzo? Not much good. Watched the race from hospital – DNS. I don’t know why he was hospitalised. I think Jack came 11th.
Dare I ask about Slade?
Michael V said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Michael V said:Fourth, after Maverick Vinales.
how did george go?
Jorge Lorenzo? Not much good. Watched the race from hospital – DNS. I don’t know why he was hospitalised. I think Jack came 11th.
yeah, bugger
Divine Angel said:
Dare I ask about Slade?
no good today..
lots of offs, penalty for bad driving and 17th
Michael V said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Michael V said:Fourth, after Maverick Vinales.
how did george go?
Jorge Lorenzo? Not much good. Watched the race from hospital – DNS. I don’t know why he was hospitalised. I think Jack came 11th.
Lorenzo had a big crash in FP2.
Divine Angel said:
Dare I ask about Slade?
Cuz Sladey to you!
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Divine Angel said:
Dare I ask about Slade?
no good today..
lots of offs, penalty for bad driving and 17th
Lolz… I mean, damn.
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Dare I ask about Slade?
Cuz Sladey to you!
Considering they’ve been together 8 years and I’m yet to meet him…
Divine Angel said:
Dare I ask about Slade?
Probably sang Gudbuy To (Bob) Jane today.
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Dare I ask about Slade?
Cuz Sladey to you!
Considering they’ve been together 8 years and I’m yet to meet him…
Ha! You need to go to a Bathurst. It’s most entertaining, and very enlightening. And you might be able to muscle your way into Cuz Sladey’s camp…
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:Cuz Sladey to you!
Considering they’ve been together 8 years and I’m yet to meet him…
Ha! You need to go to a Bathurst. It’s most entertaining, and very enlightening. And you might be able to muscle your way into Cuz Sladey’s camp…
and then you’ll remember your forum compatriots…right..
right?..
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:Cuz Sladey to you!
Considering they’ve been together 8 years and I’m yet to meet him…
Ha! You need to go to a Bathurst. It’s most entertaining, and very enlightening. And you might be able to muscle your way into Cuz Sladey’s camp…
Hell no. Dad used to live a couple streets away from the Mountain. That was plenty bad enough.
Says in ABC News that someone called Reynolds was ‘cramping’.
The report sort of suggest that this is a dumb/unfortunate thing to have happen.
Can anyone translate for us Earthlings?
captain_spalding said:
Says in ABC News that someone called Reynolds was ‘cramping’.The report sort of suggest that this is a dumb/unfortunate thing to have happen.
Can anyone translate for us Earthlings?
he as winning the race for 140 of the 161 laps, then started getting leg cramps, causing his foot to slip off the clutch in the pit stop and the wheels to rotate.
This is a penalised action, so he was made to drive through the pits again, dropping him to 14th, then he was having trouble feeling the pedal positions so had to pit again to switch with his co-driver
Stumpy_seahorse said:
captain_spalding said:
Says in ABC News that someone called Reynolds was ‘cramping’.The report sort of suggest that this is a dumb/unfortunate thing to have happen.
Can anyone translate for us Earthlings?
he as winning the race for 140 of the 161 laps, then started getting leg cramps, causing his foot to slip off the clutch in the pit stop and the wheels to rotate.
This is a penalised action, so he was made to drive through the pits again, dropping him to 14th, then he was having trouble feeling the pedal positions so had to pit again to switch with his co-driver
I’m in my sixth decade, but appallingly ignorant.
They have to have only 1 driver per car, for the whole race?
captain_spalding said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:
captain_spalding said:
Says in ABC News that someone called Reynolds was ‘cramping’.The report sort of suggest that this is a dumb/unfortunate thing to have happen.
Can anyone translate for us Earthlings?
he as winning the race for 140 of the 161 laps, then started getting leg cramps, causing his foot to slip off the clutch in the pit stop and the wheels to rotate.
This is a penalised action, so he was made to drive through the pits again, dropping him to 14th, then he was having trouble feeling the pedal positions so had to pit again to switch with his co-driver
I’m in my sixth decade, but appallingly ignorant.
They have to have only 1 driver per car, for the whole race?
no, 2 drivers who have to do a minimum of 54/maximum of 107 laps
and can’t drive for longer that 3.5 hours in a single stint.
It must be one main-game driver and one at least B-level licenced driver
captain_spalding said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:
captain_spalding said:
Says in ABC News that someone called Reynolds was ‘cramping’.The report sort of suggest that this is a dumb/unfortunate thing to have happen.
Can anyone translate for us Earthlings?
he as winning the race for 140 of the 161 laps, then started getting leg cramps, causing his foot to slip off the clutch in the pit stop and the wheels to rotate.
This is a penalised action, so he was made to drive through the pits again, dropping him to 14th, then he was having trouble feeling the pedal positions so had to pit again to switch with his co-driver
I’m in my sixth decade, but appallingly ignorant.
They have to have only 1 driver per car, for the whole race?
Two drivers. Rules about how much each does. etc.
T888 has just been fined $5000 and docked 20 team points for safety issues around the wheel coming off
Stumpy_seahorse said:
T888 has just been fined $5000 and docked 20 team points for safety issues around the wheel coming off
make that 30 points
Stumpy_seahorse said:
T888 has just been fined $5000 and docked 20 team points for safety issues around the wheel coming off
Lucille?
Michael V said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:
T888 has just been fined $5000 and docked 20 team points for safety issues around the wheel coming off
Lucille?
yep
I used to camp on the mound on pit straight – sleeping in the back of my panel van. It’s now home to a huge grandstand.
Michael V said:
I used to camp on the mound on pit straight – sleeping in the back of my panel van. It’s now home to a huge grandstand.
Never been to Bathurst for the race.
It’s popularity grew when Channel 7 technicians introduced in car live TV, it was the first world wide I believe.
Australia was doing some cutting edge stuff with TV in the 60’s and 70’s.
Peak Warming Man said:
Australia was doing some cutting edge stuff with TV in the 60’s and 70’s.
Now it’s just ‘reality’ shows.
At just what point did they say ‘bugger it, throw in the towel’?
Michael V said:
I used to camp on the mound on pit straight – sleeping in the back of my panel van. It’s now home to a huge grandstand.
One time, (1972) I stayed in a house owned by the Arnotts. Of the biscuit company. I was booked lots of times coming to town on my Norton. Decided to return via Mittagong to reduce the booking risk. And that provided its own problems. Interestingly I rode the dirt section to Mittagong on a Norton Commando (owned by someone else), pretty much the most powerful road bike of that time. The bike’s motor only worked properly with more than three-quarter throttle wound on. Lots of high speed sideways action in the rain and red basalt clay roads.
:)
Ah, memory lane. That year, I did 122 mph down Conrod in the middle of the night. How do I know that speed? Valve bounce in top gear…
Two years later I raced my TD1C Yamaha there (unsuccessfully). My one and only Grand Prix motorcycle. I still have the manual for it.
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
I used to camp on the mound on pit straight – sleeping in the back of my panel van. It’s now home to a huge grandstand.
Never been to Bathurst for the race.
It’s popularity grew when Channel 7 technicians introduced in car live TV, it was the first world wide I believe.
Australia was doing some cutting edge stuff with TV in the 60’s and 70’s.
It’s worth going. The bike races at Easter were even better (before the riots killed the meeting). It was a bike race track before the track was tarred. Somewhere, I have a (magazine) photo of a motorcyclist (Eric McPherson?) racing in the early 1950’s on his works Velocette, dong a feet-up, full-lock slide coming into McPhillamy Park. Probably doing about 110 mph (180 km/h).
TD1C:
https://www.shannons.com.au/library/images/auctions/MEC1B59857739EHA/1600×1066/c1967-yamaha-td1c-250cc-motorcycle.jpg
Michael V said:
Bugger…
TD1C:https://www.shannons.com.au/library/images/auctions/MEC1B59857739EHA/1600×1066/c1967-yamaha-td1c-250cc-motorcycle.jpg
Stumpy_seahorse said:
Rule 303 said:
Stumpy_seahorse said:puts more emphasis on the driver’s skill.
GT cars have ABS, as do many international enduro cars
Hmmm…
using ABS as opposed to braking correctly, lots more distance
A good ABS will almost always do better than nearly every driver.
Bathurst 1000. 2025
Starts tomorrow morning. I watched the one lap dash today.
I was barracking for the guy from WA, but just discovered that he is a dick.
Now I don’t know what to think.
I’ll go for the WA guy that I used to race with, but he’s still a dick.
I don’t mind if he loses now.
Go Frosty!
