Date: 18/10/2018 16:19:06
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1290332
Subject: Next Generation Telescopes Could Use Teleportation

Next Generation Telescopes Could Use “Teleportation” to Take Better Images

Telescopes have come a long way in the past few centuries. From the comparatively modest devices built by astronomers like Galileo Galilei and Johannes Kepler, telescopes have evolved to become massive instruments that require an entire facility to house them and a full crew and network of computers to run them. And in the coming years, much larger observatories will be constructed that can do even more.

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Date: 18/10/2018 17:07:59
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1290336
Subject: re: Next Generation Telescopes Could Use Teleportation

Tau.Neutrino said:


Next Generation Telescopes Could Use “Teleportation” to Take Better Images

Telescopes have come a long way in the past few centuries. From the comparatively modest devices built by astronomers like Galileo Galilei and Johannes Kepler, telescopes have evolved to become massive instruments that require an entire facility to house them and a full crew and network of computers to run them. And in the coming years, much larger observatories will be constructed that can do even more.

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From link.

“Interferometry is a process where light is obtained by multiple smaller telescopes and then combined to reconstruct images of what they observed. This process is used by such facilities as the Very Large Telescope Interferometer (VLTI) in Chile and the Center for High-Angular Resolution Astronomy (CHARA) in California … One of the drawbacks is that photons are inevitably lost during the transmission process.”

What why how. I hadn’t heard of photons getting lost?

“The standard technique of locally recording the light at each telescope results in too much noise to work for weak light sources. As a result, all current optical telescope arrays work by combining the light from different telescopes directly at a single measurement station. The price to pay is attenuation of the light in transmission to the measurement station. This loss is a severe limitation”

I’m vaguely aware of both methods. Local recording has been used by the first radio interferometers. Combining light at a single measurement station is usually preferred at optical wavelengths. I don’t know how either works in detail but I already know that the light combination can be done either by normal telescope optics or by optical fibre.

I still don’t see why either technique loses photons. I need to look into this some more.

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Date: 18/10/2018 17:10:45
From: Cymek
ID: 1290338
Subject: re: Next Generation Telescopes Could Use Teleportation

What why how. I hadn’t heard of photons getting lost?

On their way to Mass and they find god and don’t leave

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Date: 18/10/2018 17:12:46
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1290339
Subject: re: Next Generation Telescopes Could Use Teleportation

Cymek said:


What why how. I hadn’t heard of photons getting lost?

On their way to Mass and they find god and don’t leave

That would explain why there are so few optical interferometers.

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Date: 23/10/2018 18:48:37
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1292651
Subject: re: Next Generation Telescopes Could Use Teleportation

> CHARA consists of 6 one-meter telescopes separated in a way that gives them a resolution equivalent to a 330-meter mirror.

That is actually laughable. That’s not a compact array, so is not the equivalent of a 330 metre mirror.

To get anywhere near that resolution with one-metre telescopes requires n telescopes where 2^(n/2) = 300.
That gives a need for 17 one-metre telescopes, not 6. That is a very significant difference.

I still don’t undestand the bit about light getting lost. The light travels from the one-metre telescopes to the analysis point through vacuum pipes that are 12.5 cm in diameter. These feed through time delays (fixed delays) before being compressed down to 1.9 cm for the final image.

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