Date: 19/10/2018 11:39:20
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1290675
Subject: Shape of sub atomic particles

Are all subatomic particles round ?

or do they have different shapes ?

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Date: 19/10/2018 12:09:51
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1290676
Subject: re: Shape of sub atomic particles

Tau.Neutrino said:


Are all subatomic particles round ?

or do they have different shapes ?

they don’t have a shape.

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Date: 19/10/2018 12:11:25
From: sibeen
ID: 1290677
Subject: re: Shape of sub atomic particles

There’s a probability that Boris is correct.

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Date: 19/10/2018 12:12:57
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1290678
Subject: re: Shape of sub atomic particles

sibeen said:


There’s a probability that Boris is correct.

waves to sibeen.

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Date: 19/10/2018 12:16:51
From: Cymek
ID: 1290679
Subject: re: Shape of sub atomic particles

JudgeMental said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Are all subatomic particles round ?

or do they have different shapes ?

they don’t have a shape.

Is that assumed because of their size or have we direct evidence

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Date: 19/10/2018 12:17:58
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1290680
Subject: re: Shape of sub atomic particles

JudgeMental said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Are all subatomic particles round ?

or do they have different shapes ?

they don’t have a shape.

Physicists Model Electrons in Unprecedented Detail — Spoiler Alert: They’re Round

Electrons are extremely round, and some physicists are not pleased about it.

Why aren’t they happy ?

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Date: 19/10/2018 12:19:28
From: Cymek
ID: 1290681
Subject: re: Shape of sub atomic particles

Tau.Neutrino said:


JudgeMental said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Are all subatomic particles round ?

or do they have different shapes ?

they don’t have a shape.

Physicists Model Electrons in Unprecedented Detail — Spoiler Alert: They’re Round

Electrons are extremely round, and some physicists are not pleased about it.

Why aren’t they happy ?

Gravity perhaps as is it responsible for giving them their round shape like is does with massive objects likes planets and suns

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Date: 19/10/2018 12:23:19
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1290683
Subject: re: Shape of sub atomic particles

Cymek said:


JudgeMental said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Are all subatomic particles round ?

or do they have different shapes ?

they don’t have a shape.

Is that assumed because of their size or have we direct evidence

because the aren’t solid objects but fields, so it is the distribution of the field that is measured.

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Date: 19/10/2018 12:31:40
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1290685
Subject: re: Shape of sub atomic particles

JudgeMental said:


Cymek said:

JudgeMental said:

they don’t have a shape.

Is that assumed because of their size or have we direct evidence

because the aren’t solid objects but fields, so it is the distribution of the field that is measured.

Maybe electrons are round if no other charged particles are near ?

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Date: 19/10/2018 12:33:22
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1290686
Subject: re: Shape of sub atomic particles

Tau.Neutrino said:


JudgeMental said:

Cymek said:

Is that assumed because of their size or have we direct evidence

because the aren’t solid objects but fields, so it is the distribution of the field that is measured.

Maybe electrons are round if no other charged particles are near ?

the electromagnetic force is infinite in extent.

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Date: 19/10/2018 12:43:11
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1290690
Subject: re: Shape of sub atomic particles

?

? i thought it was possible to model or measure the probability distributions, and the directional distributions would constitute “shape” ¿

or

is that so last century

¿

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Date: 19/10/2018 12:51:26
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1290691
Subject: re: Shape of sub atomic particles

JudgeMental said:


sibeen said:

There’s a probability that Boris is correct.

waves to sibeen.

Shouldn’t you be particling to him?

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Date: 19/10/2018 12:53:52
From: sibeen
ID: 1290692
Subject: re: Shape of sub atomic particles

The Rev Dodgson said:


JudgeMental said:

sibeen said:

There’s a probability that Boris is correct.

waves to sibeen.

Shouldn’t you be particling to him?

I sort of acknowledged him and I sort of didn’t.

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Date: 19/10/2018 12:55:05
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1290694
Subject: re: Shape of sub atomic particles

The Rev Dodgson said:


JudgeMental said:

sibeen said:

There’s a probability that Boris is correct.

waves to sibeen.

Shouldn’t you be particling to him?

if he weren’t such a bohr i might do.

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Date: 19/10/2018 13:12:19
From: Cymek
ID: 1290698
Subject: re: Shape of sub atomic particles

JudgeMental said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

JudgeMental said:

waves to sibeen.

Shouldn’t you be particling to him?

if he weren’t such a bohr i might do.

Stick to him like gluon

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Date: 19/10/2018 17:48:24
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1290836
Subject: re: Shape of sub atomic particles

Tau.Neutrino said:


Are all subatomic particles round ?

or do they have different shapes ?

I see we don’t have a complete answer to this yet. Let’s start with big subatomic particles and get smaller in steps.

Atomic nuclei are never exactly round. They are almost always close to round, but there are famous exceptions. Such as berylium-8, calcium-42 and cadmium-107.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdeformation
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperdeformation

Composite subatomic particles the baryons and mesons, such as the proton, neutron and pion, are never round. This can be seen for example in the high energy scattering of electrons off protons.

Elementary particles such as the electron, muon, quark and neutrino are believed to be round.

If it wasn’t for quantum mechanics, if electrons were described only by the equations of Newton and Relativity in the absence of quantum mechanics, then even electrons wouldn’t be spherical. It is quantum mechanics that makes them round. So looking for out-of-roundness of an electron is a test of quantum mechanics.

IIUC.

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