Date: 20/10/2018 12:57:58
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1291161
Subject: Plant ID

The plant with the little 5 leaf flower, any ideas.
The second photo shows it in relation to a dandelion.


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Date: 20/10/2018 12:59:20
From: Stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1291163
Subject: re: Plant ID

Peak Warming Man said:


The plant with the little 5 leaf flower, any ideas.
The second photo shows it in relation to a dandelion.



triffid…

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Date: 20/10/2018 13:00:48
From: buffy
ID: 1291164
Subject: re: Plant ID

Stumpy_seahorse said:


Peak Warming Man said:

The plant with the little 5 leaf flower, any ideas.
The second photo shows it in relation to a dandelion.



triffid…

I concur…

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Date: 20/10/2018 13:00:55
From: kii
ID: 1291165
Subject: re: Plant ID

Peak Warming Man said:


The plant with the little 5 leaf flower, any ideas.
The second photo shows it in relation to a dandelion.



oxalis….you can thread the flowers together to make fairy necklaces….or necklaces for fairies.

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Date: 20/10/2018 13:01:58
From: buffy
ID: 1291166
Subject: re: Plant ID

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxalis_stricta

Sorry, kii got in while I went for a link. I need to search faster.

It’s a weed.

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Date: 20/10/2018 13:05:20
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1291167
Subject: re: Plant ID

kii said:


Peak Warming Man said:

The plant with the little 5 leaf flower, any ideas.
The second photo shows it in relation to a dandelion.



oxalis….you can thread the flowers together to make fairy necklaces….or necklaces for fairies.

That’s him, thanks kii.

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Date: 20/10/2018 13:06:31
From: buffy
ID: 1291169
Subject: re: Plant ID

http://vro.agriculture.vic.gov.au/dpi/vro/vrosite.nsf/pages/weeds_upright-yellow-sorrel

This year has been a good year for sweet and sour. I have had masses and masses of it. In Casterton I’ve had it coming up in places it hasn’t previously been. It’s a bugger to get rid of . If you pull up a plant, have a look at the MILLIONS (may be small exaggeration) of bulblets it leaves behind…

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Date: 20/10/2018 13:07:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 1291171
Subject: re: Plant ID

Peak Warming Man said:


kii said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The plant with the little 5 leaf flower, any ideas.
The second photo shows it in relation to a dandelion.



oxalis….you can thread the flowers together to make fairy necklaces….or necklaces for fairies.

That’s him, thanks kii.

It is an member of the Oxalis genera. Otherwise commonly known as wood sorrel or shamrock.

In Australia it is a pestiferous weed. Not as hard to kill as other types of Oxalis though.

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Date: 20/10/2018 13:07:59
From: kii
ID: 1291172
Subject: re: Plant ID

Peak Warming Man said:


kii said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The plant with the little 5 leaf flower, any ideas.
The second photo shows it in relation to a dandelion.



oxalis….you can thread the flowers together to make fairy necklaces….or necklaces for fairies.

That’s him, thanks kii.

In the 1970s I always had “Chinese Fire Ferns”…..it’s another oxalis. Oxalis hedysaroides ‘Rubra’

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Date: 20/10/2018 13:08:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 1291173
Subject: re: Plant ID

Peak Warming Man said:


The plant with the little 5 leaf flower, any ideas.
The second photo shows it in relation to a dandelion.



and it is petals. Five petals.

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Date: 20/10/2018 13:22:20
From: dv
ID: 1291180
Subject: re: Plant ID

buffy said:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxalis_stricta

Sorry, kii got in while I went for a link. I need to search faster.

It’s a weed.

A weed is a plant growing where it is not wanted. It’s a cultural term, not a botanical one.

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Date: 20/10/2018 13:22:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 1291183
Subject: re: Plant ID

dv said:


buffy said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxalis_stricta

Sorry, kii got in while I went for a link. I need to search faster.

It’s a weed.

A weed is a plant growing where it is not wanted. It’s a cultural term, not a botanical one.

I am sure we are all aware of that fact.

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Date: 20/10/2018 13:23:25
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1291184
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


Peak Warming Man said:

The plant with the little 5 leaf flower, any ideas.
The second photo shows it in relation to a dandelion.



and it is petals. Five petals.

We’ve got that here, too, since we had some rain.

I was just saying t Mrs S that i’ll have to lop all of those little flowers off with the mower this afternoon, despite the sprinkling of bright yellow looking so pleasant.

Then, the oxalis will have to be sprayed.

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Date: 20/10/2018 13:24:06
From: kii
ID: 1291185
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


dv said:

buffy said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxalis_stricta

Sorry, kii got in while I went for a link. I need to search faster.

It’s a weed.

A weed is a plant growing where it is not wanted. It’s a cultural term, not a botanical one.

I am sure we are all aware of that fact.

Yeah. That’s exactly what I thought.

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Date: 20/10/2018 13:35:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 1291200
Subject: re: Plant ID

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The plant with the little 5 leaf flower, any ideas.
The second photo shows it in relation to a dandelion.



and it is petals. Five petals.

We’ve got that here, too, since we had some rain.

I was just saying t Mrs S that i’ll have to lop all of those little flowers off with the mower this afternoon, despite the sprinkling of bright yellow looking so pleasant.

Then, the oxalis will have to be sprayed.

I’m more vigilant and get the baby plants before they make flowers. This is a plant that makes runners in the soil humus. Other Oxalis species have bulbs. My daughter who often helped me weed the trees in the nursery, dessicated a runner in the sun and once she decided it was dead enough she wet it agan and lo, a miracle occurred it started too grow again.

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Date: 20/10/2018 13:37:44
From: buffy
ID: 1291203
Subject: re: Plant ID

dv said:


buffy said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxalis_stricta

Sorry, kii got in while I went for a link. I need to search faster.

It’s a weed.

A weed is a plant growing where it is not wanted. It’s a cultural term, not a botanical one.

That verdammte stuff is a weed wherever it is.

;)

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Date: 20/10/2018 13:41:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 1291206
Subject: re: Plant ID

buffy said:


dv said:

buffy said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxalis_stricta

Sorry, kii got in while I went for a link. I need to search faster.

It’s a weed.

A weed is a plant growing where it is not wanted. It’s a cultural term, not a botanical one.

That verdammte stuff is a weed wherever it is.

;)

Oi. It takes pride of place on my family shield. As a shamrock.
It barely lasts minutes after I spot any in my garden though. If I turn my head for ten minutes it is already spreading.

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Date: 20/10/2018 13:43:03
From: ruby
ID: 1291208
Subject: re: Plant ID

It can be a non weed if you don’t mind getting more oxalic acid in your diet-
https://dengarden.com/gardening/oxalis

I’ll pass on eating it, getting enough oxalic acid already, probably.

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Date: 20/10/2018 13:51:35
From: ruby
ID: 1291213
Subject: re: Plant ID

Mmmm, wood sorrel custard pie. First pick 4 cups of leaves…..
http://foragedfoodie.blogspot.com/2013/09/foraged-wood-sorrel-custard-pie.html

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Date: 20/10/2018 14:16:25
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1291233
Subject: re: Plant ID

This site will permit you to key out the species you have and although many are introduced weeds, there are several native species too.

http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&showsyn=&dist=&constat=&lvl=gn&name=Oxalis

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Date: 20/10/2018 14:20:41
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1291237
Subject: re: Plant ID

PermeateFree said:


This site will permit you to key out the species you have and although many are introduced weeds, there are several native species too.

http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&showsyn=&dist=&constat=&lvl=gn&name=Oxalis

Ta.

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Date: 20/10/2018 14:35:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 1291241
Subject: re: Plant ID

PermeateFree said:


This site will permit you to key out the species you have and although many are introduced weeds, there are several native species too.

http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&showsyn=&dist=&constat=&lvl=gn&name=Oxalis

Yes. There are natives in the family.

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Date: 21/10/2018 08:14:34
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1291562
Subject: re: Plant ID

I used to enjoy eating the weed oxalis on salads. Gives them a kick. The nicest parts to eat are the seed pods. But the leaves with stems attached are almost as nice. Tastes a lot nicer than rhubarb.

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Date: 21/10/2018 08:24:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 1291566
Subject: re: Plant ID

mollwollfumble said:


I used to enjoy eating the weed oxalis on salads. Gives them a kick. The nicest parts to eat are the seed pods. But the leaves with stems attached are almost as nice. Tastes a lot nicer than rhubarb.

Must admit, I’ve never seen it as edible. Not going to change my mind anytime soon either.

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Date: 21/10/2018 16:24:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 1291716
Subject: re: Plant ID

New plant ID question. Anyone got a name for this one?

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Date: 21/10/2018 16:27:39
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1291717
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


New plant ID question. Anyone got a name for this one?


https://bwvp.ecolinc.vic.edu.au/fieldguide/flora/kidney-weed#details

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Date: 21/10/2018 16:35:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 1291721
Subject: re: Plant ID

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:

New plant ID question. Anyone got a name for this one?


https://bwvp.ecolinc.vic.edu.au/fieldguide/flora/kidney-weed#details

So it is a native then?

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Date: 21/10/2018 16:43:23
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1291727
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

New plant ID question. Anyone got a name for this one?


https://bwvp.ecolinc.vic.edu.au/fieldguide/flora/kidney-weed#details

So it is a native then?

Yes

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Date: 21/10/2018 16:45:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 1291730
Subject: re: Plant ID

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

https://bwvp.ecolinc.vic.edu.au/fieldguide/flora/kidney-weed#details

So it is a native then?

Yes

It would actually be easier to grow than a lawn. It certainly tolerates walking on. Very drought tolerant.

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Date: 21/10/2018 16:47:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 1291735
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

So it is a native then?

Yes

It would actually be easier to grow than a lawn. It certainly tolerates walking on. Very drought tolerant.

It does occcur in Cocoparra national park. I’ve got some growing in my yard and if the lawn gives me too much trouble I might put this there nstead.

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Date: 21/10/2018 17:01:18
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1291744
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Yes

It would actually be easier to grow than a lawn. It certainly tolerates walking on. Very drought tolerant.

It does occcur in Cocoparra national park. I’ve got some growing in my yard and if the lawn gives me too much trouble I might put this there nstead.

It is often grown as a lawn.

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Date: 21/10/2018 17:23:53
From: Michael V
ID: 1291753
Subject: re: Plant ID

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

It would actually be easier to grow than a lawn. It certainly tolerates walking on. Very drought tolerant.

It does occcur in Cocoparra national park. I’ve got some growing in my yard and if the lawn gives me too much trouble I might put this there nstead.

It is often grown as a lawn.

I had it in Brisbane. Worked well as part of the lawn, but was slow growing on the heavy baked clay soil there. Drought resistant and it wears well.

Hmmmm. Perhaps I should introduce some here. I wonder whether it’d out-compete Bahia grass.

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Date: 21/10/2018 17:34:50
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1291759
Subject: re: Plant ID

Michael V said:


PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

It does occcur in Cocoparra national park. I’ve got some growing in my yard and if the lawn gives me too much trouble I might put this there nstead.

It is often grown as a lawn.

I had it in Brisbane. Worked well as part of the lawn, but was slow growing on the heavy baked clay soil there. Drought resistant and it wears well.

Hmmmm. Perhaps I should introduce some here. I wonder whether it’d out-compete Bahia grass.

Not a hope, grasses are amongst the worst weeds. The best patch of Kidney-weed I came across was downstream (overflow section) of a freshwater lake (over granite) in the WA Mallee. The soils were deep and sandy with plenty of humus and were generally moist, except possibly for mid-summer.

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Date: 21/10/2018 17:46:15
From: buffy
ID: 1291770
Subject: re: Plant ID

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:

New plant ID question. Anyone got a name for this one?


https://bwvp.ecolinc.vic.edu.au/fieldguide/flora/kidney-weed#details

I agree. I grow it a lot here. It seems to like it. In the veggie garden too. It’s easy to lift out when you want the dirt again.

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Date: 21/10/2018 17:47:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 1291772
Subject: re: Plant ID

PermeateFree said:


Michael V said:

PermeateFree said:

It is often grown as a lawn.

I had it in Brisbane. Worked well as part of the lawn, but was slow growing on the heavy baked clay soil there. Drought resistant and it wears well.

Hmmmm. Perhaps I should introduce some here. I wonder whether it’d out-compete Bahia grass.

Not a hope, grasses are amongst the worst weeds. The best patch of Kidney-weed I came across was downstream (overflow section) of a freshwater lake (over granite) in the WA Mallee. The soils were deep and sandy with plenty of humus and were generally moist, except possibly for mid-summer.

Yes, it doesn’t run well onto dry ground.

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Date: 21/10/2018 17:47:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 1291774
Subject: re: Plant ID

buffy said:


PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

New plant ID question. Anyone got a name for this one?


https://bwvp.ecolinc.vic.edu.au/fieldguide/flora/kidney-weed#details

I agree. I grow it a lot here. It seems to like it. In the veggie garden too. It’s easy to lift out when you want the dirt again.


All of that.

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Date: 21/10/2018 17:47:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 1291775
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

PermeateFree said:

https://bwvp.ecolinc.vic.edu.au/fieldguide/flora/kidney-weed#details

I agree. I grow it a lot here. It seems to like it. In the veggie garden too. It’s easy to lift out when you want the dirt again.


All of that.


and it can outcompete the wood sorrel.

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Date: 21/10/2018 18:04:09
From: buffy
ID: 1291783
Subject: re: Plant ID

Here you go. I don’t have any in the veggie beds at the moment, and it’s a bit patchy from a rain shortage, but here it is around the veggie patch. I have gradually dug back the couch and let the Dichondra spread. That will continue. You do have to keep removing couch invaders, but the Dichondra is actually pretty good at not letting much through.

And along the pathway, it’s a bit ragged at present because there are extra dogs next door, so there is a lot of dog traffic across to the fence…

When I remove the wads of it from the beds I place them across where the septic tank is. Easy to dig through to get to the tank when necessary, and green.

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Date: 21/10/2018 18:30:15
From: Michael V
ID: 1291792
Subject: re: Plant ID

buffy said:


Here you go. I don’t have any in the veggie beds at the moment, and it’s a bit patchy from a rain shortage, but here it is around the veggie patch. I have gradually dug back the couch and let the Dichondra spread. That will continue. You do have to keep removing couch invaders, but the Dichondra is actually pretty good at not letting much through.

And along the pathway, it’s a bit ragged at present because there are extra dogs next door, so there is a lot of dog traffic across to the fence…

When I remove the wads of it from the beds I place them across where the septic tank is. Easy to dig through to get to the tank when necessary, and green.

Nice work. Well done. I do like Dichondra.

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Date: 21/10/2018 21:30:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 1291881
Subject: re: Plant ID

buffy said:


Here you go. I don’t have any in the veggie beds at the moment, and it’s a bit patchy from a rain shortage, but here it is around the veggie patch. I have gradually dug back the couch and let the Dichondra spread. That will continue. You do have to keep removing couch invaders, but the Dichondra is actually pretty good at not letting much through.

And along the pathway, it’s a bit ragged at present because there are extra dogs next door, so there is a lot of dog traffic across to the fence…

When I remove the wads of it from the beds I place them across where the septic tank is. Easy to dig through to get to the tank when necessary, and green.

There is no couch or kikuyu in my yard.

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Date: 23/10/2018 08:19:13
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1292417
Subject: re: Plant ID

buffy said:


PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

New plant ID question. Anyone got a name for this one?


https://bwvp.ecolinc.vic.edu.au/fieldguide/flora/kidney-weed#details

I agree. I grow it a lot here. It seems to like it. In the veggie garden too. It’s easy to lift out when you want the dirt again.

Is it edible?

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Date: 23/10/2018 08:23:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 1292418
Subject: re: Plant ID

mollwollfumble said:


buffy said:

PermeateFree said:

https://bwvp.ecolinc.vic.edu.au/fieldguide/flora/kidney-weed#details

I agree. I grow it a lot here. It seems to like it. In the veggie garden too. It’s easy to lift out when you want the dirt again.

Is it edible?

Don’t quote me on it but these peopole say so. https://www.carecentre.org.za/weeds.html

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Date: 23/10/2018 08:29:03
From: Michael V
ID: 1292420
Subject: re: Plant ID

mollwollfumble said:


buffy said:

PermeateFree said:

https://bwvp.ecolinc.vic.edu.au/fieldguide/flora/kidney-weed#details

I agree. I grow it a lot here. It seems to like it. In the veggie garden too. It’s easy to lift out when you want the dirt again.

Is it edible?

I don’t know, but it’s an interesting question:

Is Dichondra repens edible?

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Date: 23/10/2018 08:32:57
From: Michael V
ID: 1292422
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


mollwollfumble said:

buffy said:

I agree. I grow it a lot here. It seems to like it. In the veggie garden too. It’s easy to lift out when you want the dirt again.

Is it edible?

Don’t quote me on it but these people say so.

https://www.carecentre.org.za/weeds.html

They are talking about tortoises and monkeys (as far as I can determine)…

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Date: 23/10/2018 08:35:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 1292423
Subject: re: Plant ID

Michael V said:


mollwollfumble said:

buffy said:

I agree. I grow it a lot here. It seems to like it. In the veggie garden too. It’s easy to lift out when you want the dirt again.

Is it edible?

I don’t know, but it’s an interesting question:

Is Dichondra repens edible?

It is a bit furry but otherwise quite a nice chew. Not salty or bitter. Doesn’t create any serious reactions.

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Date: 23/10/2018 08:36:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 1292425
Subject: re: Plant ID

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

Is it edible?

Don’t quote me on it but these people say so.

https://www.carecentre.org.za/weeds.html

They are talking about tortoises and monkeys (as far as I can determine)…

That indeed they are.

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Date: 23/10/2018 08:38:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 1292426
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

mollwollfumble said:

Is it edible?

I don’t know, but it’s an interesting question:

Is Dichondra repens edible?

It is a bit furry but otherwise quite a nice chew. Not salty or bitter. Doesn’t create any serious reactions.

Slight bitter aftertaste. Reckon it could cook up nicely.

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Date: 23/10/2018 08:53:12
From: Michael V
ID: 1292431
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

mollwollfumble said:

Is it edible?

I don’t know, but it’s an interesting question:

Is Dichondra repens edible?

It is a bit furry but otherwise quite a nice chew. Not salty or bitter. Doesn’t create any serious reactions.

:)

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Date: 23/10/2018 08:59:51
From: Michael V
ID: 1292432
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

I don’t know, but it’s an interesting question:

Is Dichondra repens edible?

It is a bit furry but otherwise quite a nice chew. Not salty or bitter. Doesn’t create any serious reactions.

Slight bitter aftertaste. Reckon it could cook up nicely.

Are you going to be Royal Taster?

:)

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Date: 23/10/2018 09:10:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 1292438
Subject: re: Plant ID

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

It is a bit furry but otherwise quite a nice chew. Not salty or bitter. Doesn’t create any serious reactions.

Slight bitter aftertaste. Reckon it could cook up nicely.

Are you going to be Royal Taster?

:)

Anytime you want.

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Date: 28/10/2018 09:19:18
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1294763
Subject: re: Plant ID

Anyone got a handle on this one, it’s leaves are similar to fireweed but the flower is way different?

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Date: 28/10/2018 09:25:54
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1294765
Subject: re: Plant ID

Peak Warming Man said:


Anyone got a handle on this one, it’s leaves are similar to fireweed but the flower is way different?

It’s a native orchid daffodil which is extinct. You may have pulled out the last one.

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Date: 28/10/2018 10:33:00
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1294778
Subject: re: Plant ID

AwesomeO said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Anyone got a handle on this one, it’s leaves are similar to fireweed but the flower is way different?

It’s a native orchid daffodil which is extinct. You may have pulled out the last one.

You’re lying.

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Date: 28/10/2018 12:24:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 1294822
Subject: re: Plant ID

Peak Warming Man said:


AwesomeO said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Anyone got a handle on this one, it’s leaves are similar to fireweed but the flower is way different?

It’s a native orchid daffodil which is extinct. You may have pulled out the last one.

You’re lying.

It is a primrose?

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Date: 28/10/2018 13:03:36
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1294839
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


Peak Warming Man said:

AwesomeO said:

It’s a native orchid daffodil which is extinct. You may have pulled out the last one.

You’re lying.

It is a primrose?

Don’t think so, leaves aren’t right.

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Date: 28/10/2018 13:27:16
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1294841
Subject: re: Plant ID

Peak Warming Man said:


Anyone got a handle on this one, it’s leaves are similar to fireweed but the flower is way different?

This one looks similar:

https://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/media/Html/solanum_pseudocapsicum.htm

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Date: 28/10/2018 13:47:01
From: ruby
ID: 1294847
Subject: re: Plant ID

Bubblecar said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Anyone got a handle on this one, it’s leaves are similar to fireweed but the flower is way different?

This one looks similar:

https://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/media/Html/solanum_pseudocapsicum.htm

Solanum have 5 petals….that looks to be 4?
How about evening primrose.

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Date: 28/10/2018 14:13:15
From: dv
ID: 1294856
Subject: re: Plant ID

kii said:


roughbarked said:

dv said:

A weed is a plant growing where it is not wanted. It’s a cultural term, not a botanical one.

I am sure we are all aware of that fact.

Yeah. That’s exactly what I thought.

So you understand why I said it. Buffy’s absolutist identification of the plant as a weed doesn’t mean anything: whether or not it is a weed will depend on whether it is wanted at that particular place.

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Date: 28/10/2018 14:17:14
From: Boris
ID: 1294858
Subject: re: Plant ID

dv said:


kii said:

roughbarked said:

I am sure we are all aware of that fact.

Yeah. That’s exactly what I thought.

So you understand why I said it. Buffy’s absolutist identification of the plant as a weed doesn’t mean anything: whether or not it is a weed will depend on whether it is wanted at that particular place.

oh flobabdob!

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Date: 28/10/2018 14:24:08
From: dv
ID: 1294863
Subject: re: Plant ID

Certainly seems to be something from the oxalis genus.

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Date: 28/10/2018 14:41:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 1294871
Subject: re: Plant ID

ruby said:


Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Anyone got a handle on this one, it’s leaves are similar to fireweed but the flower is way different?

This one looks similar:

https://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/media/Html/solanum_pseudocapsicum.htm

Solanum have 5 petals….that looks to be 4?
How about evening primrose.

:)

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Date: 28/10/2018 15:03:40
From: buffy
ID: 1294873
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


Peak Warming Man said:

AwesomeO said:

It’s a native orchid daffodil which is extinct. You may have pulled out the last one.

You’re lying.

It is a primrose?

Have we got this one yet? I think the primrose suggestion might be right. I’ve been flipping through the pictures in my latest weed book, and apart from getting distracted (often) Oenothers affinis might fit the bill. Difficult to find a picture online with both flower and leaves, but maybe:

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Date: 28/10/2018 15:40:57
From: buffy
ID: 1294890
Subject: re: Plant ID

Oh, and continuing the weed theme…when you plant a few iris corms in the veggie bed because you can’t think where else to put them….they take advantage of your good nature…

I have thinned them a lot, that’s around 2/3 of what was there. And for MV, those are the walking onions in the front there.

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Date: 28/10/2018 15:46:01
From: dv
ID: 1294892
Subject: re: Plant ID

Saw these in the park: basic dandelions but they are blue when they first open.

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Date: 28/10/2018 15:54:09
From: Michael V
ID: 1294895
Subject: re: Plant ID

buffy said:


Oh, and continuing the weed theme…when you plant a few iris corms in the veggie bed because you can’t think where else to put them….they take advantage of your good nature…

I have thinned them a lot, that’s around 2/3 of what was there. And for MV, those are the walking onions in the front there.

:)

They’re a lot taller than mine. Having nutrients in your soil is good. Oh, and the hail storm knocked ours around a lot.

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Date: 28/10/2018 15:56:21
From: buffy
ID: 1294897
Subject: re: Plant ID

Michael V said:


buffy said:

Oh, and continuing the weed theme…when you plant a few iris corms in the veggie bed because you can’t think where else to put them….they take advantage of your good nature…

I have thinned them a lot, that’s around 2/3 of what was there. And for MV, those are the walking onions in the front there.

:)

They’re a lot taller than mine. Having nutrients in your soil is good. Oh, and the hail storm knocked ours around a lot.

They seem to be doing very well in the sandy silty Casterton soil. The ones here are not as good, although I did put the bigger ones over there. The four or five big ones I planted here are also doing quite well. The bulblets I planted are now getting a wriggle on.

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Date: 28/10/2018 16:29:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 1294916
Subject: re: Plant ID

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

You’re lying.

It is a primrose?

Have we got this one yet? I think the primrose suggestion might be right. I’ve been flipping through the pictures in my latest weed book, and apart from getting distracted (often) Oenothers affinis might fit the bill. Difficult to find a picture online with both flower and leaves, but maybe:


That was my thought. Either O. affinis or O. stricta.

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Date: 28/10/2018 18:29:55
From: ruby
ID: 1294985
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

roughbarked said:

It is a primrose?

Have we got this one yet? I think the primrose suggestion might be right. I’ve been flipping through the pictures in my latest weed book, and apart from getting distracted (often) Oenothers affinis might fit the bill. Difficult to find a picture online with both flower and leaves, but maybe:


That was my thought. Either O. affinis or O. stricta.

There’s 4 weedy Oenothera on the Weeds Of Australia/ Biosecurity Queensland Edition website (cue ominous music), stricta is there, no affinis.
https://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/media/Html/oenothera_stricta_subsp._stricta.htm

PWM’s homework tonight, have a look at each of the weeds on the following page, and tell us how many you have at the Redoubt-
https://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/media/Html/index.htm#O

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Date: 28/10/2018 18:34:08
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1294990
Subject: re: Plant ID

ruby said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Have we got this one yet? I think the primrose suggestion might be right. I’ve been flipping through the pictures in my latest weed book, and apart from getting distracted (often) Oenothers affinis might fit the bill. Difficult to find a picture online with both flower and leaves, but maybe:


That was my thought. Either O. affinis or O. stricta.

There’s 4 weedy Oenothera on the Weeds Of Australia/ Biosecurity Queensland Edition website (cue ominous music), stricta is there, no affinis.
https://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/media/Html/oenothera_stricta_subsp._stricta.htm

PWM’s homework tonight, have a look at each of the weeds on the following page, and tell us how many you have at the Redoubt-
https://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/media/Html/index.htm#O

OK. but tomorrow.
I know I’ve got fireweed, oxalis, blue heliotrope and ragweed.

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Date: 28/10/2018 18:36:56
From: buffy
ID: 1294995
Subject: re: Plant ID

When I flipped through the whole book of pictures of weeds this afternoon I recognized a large number of them. I don’t necessarily have all of them, but goodness, there are lots of introduced weeds in Australia.

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Date: 28/10/2018 18:40:29
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1295000
Subject: re: Plant ID

buffy said:

When I flipped through the whole book of pictures of weeds this afternoon I recognized a large number of them. I don’t necessarily have all of them, but goodness, there are lots of introduced weeds in Australia.

I think you and Roughie could be right about Oenothers affinis.
Is it likely to be in a paddock grazed by cattle though?

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Date: 28/10/2018 18:40:44
From: ruby
ID: 1295001
Subject: re: Plant ID

Peak Warming Man said:


ruby said:

roughbarked said:

That was my thought. Either O. affinis or O. stricta.

There’s 4 weedy Oenothera on the Weeds Of Australia/ Biosecurity Queensland Edition website (cue ominous music), stricta is there, no affinis.
https://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/media/Html/oenothera_stricta_subsp._stricta.htm

PWM’s homework tonight, have a look at each of the weeds on the following page, and tell us how many you have at the Redoubt-
https://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/media/Html/index.htm#O

OK. but tomorrow.
I know I’ve got fireweed, oxalis, blue heliotrope and ragweed.

And stinking roger.

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Date: 28/10/2018 18:41:50
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1295004
Subject: re: Plant ID

ruby said:


Peak Warming Man said:

ruby said:

There’s 4 weedy Oenothera on the Weeds Of Australia/ Biosecurity Queensland Edition website (cue ominous music), stricta is there, no affinis.
https://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/media/Html/oenothera_stricta_subsp._stricta.htm

PWM’s homework tonight, have a look at each of the weeds on the following page, and tell us how many you have at the Redoubt-
https://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/media/Html/index.htm#O

OK. but tomorrow.
I know I’ve got fireweed, oxalis, blue heliotrope and ragweed.

And stinking roger.

No, I got a photo of stinking roger off the web to stir Woodie up.

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Date: 29/10/2018 01:02:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 1295122
Subject: re: Plant ID

buffy said:

When I flipped through the whole book of pictures of weeds this afternoon I recognized a large number of them. I don’t necessarily have all of them, but goodness, there are lots of introduced weeds in Australia.

squintillions.

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Date: 29/10/2018 01:02:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 1295123
Subject: re: Plant ID

ruby said:


Peak Warming Man said:

ruby said:

There’s 4 weedy Oenothera on the Weeds Of Australia/ Biosecurity Queensland Edition website (cue ominous music), stricta is there, no affinis.
https://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/media/Html/oenothera_stricta_subsp._stricta.htm

PWM’s homework tonight, have a look at each of the weeds on the following page, and tell us how many you have at the Redoubt-
https://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/media/Html/index.htm#O

OK. but tomorrow.
I know I’ve got fireweed, oxalis, blue heliotrope and ragweed.

And stinking roger.

:)

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Date: 29/10/2018 01:03:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 1295124
Subject: re: Plant ID

Peak Warming Man said:


ruby said:

Peak Warming Man said:

OK. but tomorrow.
I know I’ve got fireweed, oxalis, blue heliotrope and ragweed.

And stinking roger.

No, I got a photo of stinking roger off the web to stir Woodie up.

Ah. Contamiinating the evidence eh?

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Date: 29/10/2018 01:20:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 1295125
Subject: re: Plant ID

and for those who were asking about white mulberry.

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Date: 29/10/2018 10:44:26
From: Michael V
ID: 1295150
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


and for those who were asking about white mulberry.


Is that ripe?

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Date: 29/10/2018 18:08:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 1295346
Subject: re: Plant ID

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

and for those who were asking about white mulberry.


Is that ripe?

Yep. That’s why I took the photo. Absolutely yummy.

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Date: 29/10/2018 19:47:53
From: Michael V
ID: 1295418
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

and for those who were asking about white mulberry.


Is that ripe?

Yep. That’s why I took the photo. Absolutely yummy.

Thanks.

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Date: 29/10/2018 20:19:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 1295430
Subject: re: Plant ID

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

Is that ripe?

Yep. That’s why I took the photo. Absolutely yummy.

Thanks.

No probs. You want me to grow you a tree?

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Date: 31/10/2018 15:09:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 1296213
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


New plant ID question. Anyone got a name for this one?


I note that the crested pigeons love it as a green pick.

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Date: 31/10/2018 15:12:29
From: Cymek
ID: 1296216
Subject: re: Plant ID

It’s a pineapple plant, getting rot on its leaves and they are also brittle. Any suggestions on how to stop it. Lack of zinc is possible but I have sprayed a solution on to leaves no improvement so far.

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Date: 31/10/2018 15:44:51
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1296231
Subject: re: Plant ID

Cymek said:


It’s a pineapple plant, getting rot on its leaves and they are also brittle. Any suggestions on how to stop it. Lack of zinc is possible but I have sprayed a solution on to leaves no improvement so far.

Might be fertiliser burn.

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Date: 31/10/2018 15:47:33
From: Ian
ID: 1296235
Subject: re: Plant ID

PermeateFree said:


Cymek said:

It’s a pineapple plant, getting rot on its leaves and they are also brittle. Any suggestions on how to stop it. Lack of zinc is possible but I have sprayed a solution on to leaves no improvement so far.

Might be fertiliser burn.

Might be in the wrong location/state.

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Date: 31/10/2018 15:51:02
From: Cymek
ID: 1296240
Subject: re: Plant ID

Ian said:


PermeateFree said:

Cymek said:

It’s a pineapple plant, getting rot on its leaves and they are also brittle. Any suggestions on how to stop it. Lack of zinc is possible but I have sprayed a solution on to leaves no improvement so far.

Might be fertiliser burn.

Might be in the wrong location/state.

Could be yes it was an experiment to see if would grow.
Someone I know has successfully grown them in the same suburb but there’s might be in a better location

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Date: 31/10/2018 15:52:25
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1296243
Subject: re: Plant ID

Ian said:


PermeateFree said:

Cymek said:

It’s a pineapple plant, getting rot on its leaves and they are also brittle. Any suggestions on how to stop it. Lack of zinc is possible but I have sprayed a solution on to leaves no improvement so far.

Might be fertiliser burn.

Might be in the wrong location/state.

Looks to me like a root problem rather than a foliage one. Infrequent and lack of deep watering is also very likely.

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Date: 31/10/2018 15:57:10
From: Cymek
ID: 1296249
Subject: re: Plant ID

PermeateFree said:


Ian said:

PermeateFree said:

Might be fertiliser burn.

Might be in the wrong location/state.

Looks to me like a root problem rather than a foliage one. Infrequent and lack of deep watering is also very likely.

It mentions to not water them very often as they can get root rot but that could be the problem as the ground they are planted in doesn’t drain that well

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Date: 31/10/2018 16:01:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 1296252
Subject: re: Plant ID

Cymek said:


Ian said:

PermeateFree said:

Might be fertiliser burn.

Might be in the wrong location/state.

Could be yes it was an experiment to see if would grow.
Someone I know has successfully grown them in the same suburb but there’s might be in a better location

You need to grow new leaves. Cut the others off.

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Date: 31/10/2018 16:01:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 1296253
Subject: re: Plant ID

Cymek said:


PermeateFree said:

Ian said:

Might be in the wrong location/state.

Looks to me like a root problem rather than a foliage one. Infrequent and lack of deep watering is also very likely.

It mentions to not water them very often as they can get root rot but that could be the problem as the ground they are planted in doesn’t drain that well

You live in WA? Is your soil the deep sand?

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Date: 31/10/2018 16:03:05
From: Cymek
ID: 1296255
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


Cymek said:

PermeateFree said:

Looks to me like a root problem rather than a foliage one. Infrequent and lack of deep watering is also very likely.

It mentions to not water them very often as they can get root rot but that could be the problem as the ground they are planted in doesn’t drain that well

You live in WA? Is your soil the deep sand?

Pretty much

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Date: 31/10/2018 16:03:35
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1296256
Subject: re: Plant ID

Cymek said:


PermeateFree said:

Ian said:

Might be in the wrong location/state.

Looks to me like a root problem rather than a foliage one. Infrequent and lack of deep watering is also very likely.

It mentions to not water them very often as they can get root rot but that could be the problem as the ground they are planted in doesn’t drain that well

Got it in one I’d say.

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Date: 31/10/2018 16:05:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 1296260
Subject: re: Plant ID

Cymek said:


roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

It mentions to not water them very often as they can get root rot but that could be the problem as the ground they are planted in doesn’t drain that well

You live in WA? Is your soil the deep sand?

Pretty much

Yet you say it doesn’t drain well?

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Date: 31/10/2018 16:08:17
From: Cymek
ID: 1296262
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

You live in WA? Is your soil the deep sand?

Pretty much

Yet you say it doesn’t drain well?

Yes it’s water repellant the water just sits on top of the sand

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Date: 31/10/2018 16:09:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 1296263
Subject: re: Plant ID

Cymek said:


roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

Pretty much

Yet you say it doesn’t drain well?

Yes it’s water repellant the water just sits on top of the sand

That’s not hard to fix.

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Date: 31/10/2018 16:10:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 1296266
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

Yet you say it doesn’t drain well?

Yes it’s water repellant the water just sits on top of the sand

That’s not hard to fix.

https://www.abc.net.au/gardening/factsheets/soil-wetting-agents-and-gels/9428808

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Date: 31/10/2018 16:15:16
From: Cymek
ID: 1296268
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

Yet you say it doesn’t drain well?

Yes it’s water repellant the water just sits on top of the sand

That’s not hard to fix.

I’ve fixed it in most of the vegetable beds

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Date: 1/11/2018 20:13:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 1297177
Subject: re: Plant ID

Back to the mulberrry component. Morus alba, “pendula”. A sport from a nursery in Washington State.

I gave a friend this low grafted weeping mulberry about ten years ago and this is what he did with it.

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Date: 1/11/2018 20:14:09
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1297181
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


Back to the mulberrry component. Morus alba, “pendula”. A sport from a nursery in Washington State.

I gave a friend this low grafted weeping mulberry about ten years ago and this is what he did with it.


He….he planted it.

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Date: 1/11/2018 20:16:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 1297184
Subject: re: Plant ID

Peak Warming Man said:


roughbarked said:

Back to the mulberrry component. Morus alba, “pendula”. A sport from a nursery in Washington State.

I gave a friend this low grafted weeping mulberry about ten years ago and this is what he did with it.


He….he planted it.

Yeah but he also trained it. Over a garden arch and trellis. The tree was grafted onto a standard at 1.2m.

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Date: 1/11/2018 20:17:32
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1297186
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

Back to the mulberrry component. Morus alba, “pendula”. A sport from a nursery in Washington State.

I gave a friend this low grafted weeping mulberry about ten years ago and this is what he did with it.


He….he planted it.

Yeah but he also trained it. Over a garden arch and trellis. The tree was grafted onto a standard at 1.2m.

So he grafted the cutting onto another mulberry tree and then he trained the graft?
Got it.

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Date: 1/11/2018 20:17:48
From: buffy
ID: 1297188
Subject: re: Plant ID

I took my secateurs for a walk the other day and took a branch off the neighbour’s tree. Possibly a bit late for cuttings as the leaves are coming out and some flowers are forming. But I’ve chopped up the bits and popped them into some soil. We shall see.

(I asked if I could take cuttings a few years ago and assumed the permission was still holding. And anyway, no-one saw me nip into his block and take a branch, did they…)

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Date: 1/11/2018 20:17:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 1297189
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

Back to the mulberrry component. Morus alba, “pendula”. A sport from a nursery in Washington State.

I gave a friend this low grafted weeping mulberry about ten years ago and this is what he did with it.


He….he planted it.

Yeah but he also trained it. Over a garden arch and trellis. The tree was grafted onto a standard at 1.2m.

Most people would have it as a lollipop on a stick.

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Date: 1/11/2018 20:18:57
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1297190
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


Back to the mulberrry component. Morus alba, “pendula”. A sport from a nursery in Washington State.

I gave a friend this low grafted weeping mulberry about ten years ago and this is what he did with it.


Looks good.

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Date: 1/11/2018 20:19:27
From: buffy
ID: 1297191
Subject: re: Plant ID

How did you get that plant in from USA? We are very strict on plant imports.

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Date: 1/11/2018 20:19:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 1297193
Subject: re: Plant ID

buffy said:

I took my secateurs for a walk the other day and took a branch off the neighbour’s tree. Possibly a bit late for cuttings as the leaves are coming out and some flowers are forming. But I’ve chopped up the bits and popped them into some soil. We shall see.

(I asked if I could take cuttings a few years ago and assumed the permission was still holding. And anyway, no-one saw me nip into his block and take a branch, did they…)

A cutting of?

and yes, never a bad tiime to take a cutting if you know the difference between a green thumb and one stained more brown or black.
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Date: 1/11/2018 20:20:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 1297194
Subject: re: Plant ID

buffy said:

How did you get that plant in from USA? We are very strict on plant imports.

You talking to me?

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Date: 1/11/2018 20:21:15
From: buffy
ID: 1297195
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

How did you get that plant in from USA? We are very strict on plant imports.

You talking to me?

Yes

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Date: 1/11/2018 20:22:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 1297196
Subject: re: Plant ID

Peak Warming Man said:


roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

He….he planted it.

Yeah but he also trained it. Over a garden arch and trellis. The tree was grafted onto a standard at 1.2m.

So he grafted the cutting onto another mulberry tree and then he trained the graft?
Got it.

No. He simply trained pruned leaders to make the shape with a hole in the wall. It is a little unusual for the general way people treat grafted standards.

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Date: 1/11/2018 20:25:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1297200
Subject: re: Plant ID

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

How did you get that plant in from USA? We are very strict on plant imports.

You talking to me?

Yes

I didn’t bring it in. In 1976, I started a job as field manager for a local tree nursery. One of the first grafting jobs was to place two buds on a standard at six feet and eight feet as the nursery owner dictated. He had trees. This tree has been in Australia a century at least. Propagated over and over.

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Date: 1/11/2018 20:29:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 1297205
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

roughbarked said:

You talking to me?

Yes

I didn’t bring it in. In 1976, I started a job as field manager for a local tree nursery. One of the first grafting jobs was to place two buds on a standard at six feet and eight feet as the nursery owner dictated. He had trees. This tree has been in Australia a century at least. Propagated over and over.

Where did the Washington navel come from?

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Date: 1/11/2018 20:30:42
From: buffy
ID: 1297208
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Yes

I didn’t bring it in. In 1976, I started a job as field manager for a local tree nursery. One of the first grafting jobs was to place two buds on a standard at six feet and eight feet as the nursery owner dictated. He had trees. This tree has been in Australia a century at least. Propagated over and over.

Where did the Washington navel come from?

I was simply pointing out that stuff like that has to jump through lots of hoops to get in here. Your post seemed to imply that you had got it yourself.

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Date: 1/11/2018 20:34:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 1297212
Subject: re: Plant ID

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

I didn’t bring it in. In 1976, I started a job as field manager for a local tree nursery. One of the first grafting jobs was to place two buds on a standard at six feet and eight feet as the nursery owner dictated. He had trees. This tree has been in Australia a century at least. Propagated over and over.

Where did the Washington navel come from?

I was simply pointing out that stuff like that has to jump through lots of hoops to get in here. Your post seemed to imply that you had got it yourself.

Being in the industry, I’ve always had access to material for grafting. Most of it is growing in my backyard for forty years anyway. I’ve also had access to unwanted trees from nursery diggings.
I have never been overseas or bought anything in from overseas other than via Australian distributors.

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Date: 1/11/2018 20:36:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 1297214
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

roughbarked said:

Where did the Washington navel come from?

Your post seemed to imply that you had got it yourself.

I grafted it, yes. I got the budwood from existing trees, look around you, they are everywhere.

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Date: 20/11/2018 21:09:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 1305984
Subject: re: Plant ID

OK a local citrus orchardist asked me to look at this and I chose the worst time of day to look but I remembered that he asked me to look so I went for a quick look though it was getting dark anyway.

He asked “is it some sort of mongrel kurrajong?” My answer was, has it flowered yet? He said No. My next answer was, “Apart from the fact that there are other Brachychitons than the Kurrajong and it is a bit dark now to see that, I’m surprised that there are no others and that you have seen no flowers or fruit. Because if it is privet then that is rather odd.

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Date: 20/11/2018 21:20:32
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1305993
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


OK a local citrus orchardist asked me to look at this and I chose the worst time of day to look but I remembered that he asked me to look so I went for a quick look though it was getting dark anyway.

He asked “is it some sort of mongrel kurrajong?” My answer was, has it flowered yet? He said No. My next answer was, “Apart from the fact that there are other Brachychitons than the Kurrajong and it is a bit dark now to see that, I’m surprised that there are no others and that you have seen no flowers or fruit. Because if it is privet then that is rather odd.

Pittosporum undulatum

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Date: 20/11/2018 21:22:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 1305994
Subject: re: Plant ID

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:

OK a local citrus orchardist asked me to look at this and I chose the worst time of day to look but I remembered that he asked me to look so I went for a quick look though it was getting dark anyway.

He asked “is it some sort of mongrel kurrajong?” My answer was, has it flowered yet? He said No. My next answer was, “Apart from the fact that there are other Brachychitons than the Kurrajong and it is a bit dark now to see that, I’m surprised that there are no others and that you have seen no flowers or fruit. Because if it is privet then that is rather odd.

Pittosporum undulatum

Definitely not.

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Date: 20/11/2018 21:28:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 1306000
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

OK a local citrus orchardist asked me to look at this and I chose the worst time of day to look but I remembered that he asked me to look so I went for a quick look though it was getting dark anyway.

He asked “is it some sort of mongrel kurrajong?” My answer was, has it flowered yet? He said No. My next answer was, “Apart from the fact that there are other Brachychitons than the Kurrajong and it is a bit dark now to see that, I’m surprised that there are no others and that you have seen no flowers or fruit. Because if it is privet then that is rather odd.

Pittosporum undulatum

Definitely not.


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Date: 20/11/2018 21:29:37
From: buffy
ID: 1306001
Subject: re: Plant ID

Why is it growing oranges on it?

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Date: 20/11/2018 21:30:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1306004
Subject: re: Plant ID

buffy said:

Why is it growing oranges on it?

Those are branches from the nearby orange trees.

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Date: 20/11/2018 21:38:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 1306013
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

Why is it growing oranges on it?

Those are branches from the nearby orange trees.

My email to him:

If it is privet. Which is quite likely. There is an Australian species. https://bie.ala.org.au/species/http://id.biodiversity.org.au/node/apni/2892465

http://keys.trin.org.au/key-server/data/0e0f0504-0103-430d-8004-060d07080d04/media/Html/taxon/Ligustrum_australianum.htm

But there are several others. Chinese privet https://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/media/Html/ligustrum_sinense.htm

Broad leaved privet. https://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/media/Html/ligustrum_lucidum.htm

Privet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privet.

As a poison: https://www.childrens.health.qld.gov.au/poisonous-plant-privet-ligustrum/
Toxic to humans.

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Date: 22/11/2018 07:06:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 1306555
Subject: re: Plant ID

Anyway, I was a little surprised that nobody suggested Camphor laurel even though I was already of the mind that it most likely was. I am now certain that it is.

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Date: 22/11/2018 16:16:59
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1306829
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


Anyway, I was a little surprised that nobody suggested Camphor laurel even though I was already of the mind that it most likely was. I am now certain that it is.

Although a common weed in eastern states, I am not very familiar with it. However I did have doubts about your determination, as the leaf venation is very distinctive and different from your suggestions. Also the specimen you put up, the leaves appeared to be alternate, whereas the plants in the genus you suggest are opposite. I would have said something but you had already acted on the matter and I did not know at that stage the plants identity.

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Date: 22/11/2018 16:21:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 1306830
Subject: re: Plant ID

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:

Anyway, I was a little surprised that nobody suggested Camphor laurel even though I was already of the mind that it most likely was. I am now certain that it is.

Although a common weed in eastern states, I am not very familiar with it. However I did have doubts about your determination, as the leaf venation is very distinctive and different from your suggestions. Also the specimen you put up, the leaves appeared to be alternate, whereas the plants in the genus you suggest are opposite. I would have said something but you had already acted on the matter and I did not know at that stage the plants identity.

I wasn’t looking terribly hard at venation. I’ll give that another squiz. I’ve already binned the sample but the ree is only five miinutes walk away.

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Date: 24/11/2018 12:29:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 1307770
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

Anyway, I was a little surprised that nobody suggested Camphor laurel even though I was already of the mind that it most likely was. I am now certain that it is.

Although a common weed in eastern states, I am not very familiar with it. However I did have doubts about your determination, as the leaf venation is very distinctive and different from your suggestions. Also the specimen you put up, the leaves appeared to be alternate, whereas the plants in the genus you suggest are opposite. I would have said something but you had already acted on the matter and I did not know at that stage the plants identity.

I wasn’t looking terribly hard at venation. I’ll give that another squiz. I’ve already binned the sample but the ree is only five miinutes walk away.

OK. After thinking about it. If it is a Ligustrum, it would have to be the Australian native posted above. Otherwise none of the Ligustrums match in any way. Because as you say, they have opposite leaves It is however more like Camphor laurel than a Ligustrum otherwise.

The above are my photos.
Now this is as it says. https://weeds.dpi.nsw.gov.au/WeedImages/Details/236?NoWeeds=5

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Date: 24/11/2018 12:32:55
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1307771
Subject: re: Plant ID

The leaves are not unlike a young avocado.

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Date: 24/11/2018 12:35:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 1307773
Subject: re: Plant ID

Peak Warming Man said:


The leaves are not unlike a young avocado.

Ah well, it is possible that an orange picker had an avo for lunch and dropped a seed, I suppose. This is an irrigated orchard on a sand dune in malle country.

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Date: 24/11/2018 12:36:36
From: ruby
ID: 1307775
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Although a common weed in eastern states, I am not very familiar with it. However I did have doubts about your determination, as the leaf venation is very distinctive and different from your suggestions. Also the specimen you put up, the leaves appeared to be alternate, whereas the plants in the genus you suggest are opposite. I would have said something but you had already acted on the matter and I did not know at that stage the plants identity.

I wasn’t looking terribly hard at venation. I’ll give that another squiz. I’ve already binned the sample but the ree is only five miinutes walk away.

OK. After thinking about it. If it is a Ligustrum, it would have to be the Australian native posted above. Otherwise none of the Ligustrums match in any way. Because as you say, they have opposite leaves It is however more like Camphor laurel than a Ligustrum otherwise.
Now this is as it says. https://weeds.dpi.nsw.gov.au/WeedImages/Details/236?NoWeeds=5


Rather easy to see if it is a camphor laurel….crush the leaves and smell.

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Date: 24/11/2018 12:38:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 1307777
Subject: re: Plant ID

ruby said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

I wasn’t looking terribly hard at venation. I’ll give that another squiz. I’ve already binned the sample but the ree is only five miinutes walk away.

OK. After thinking about it. If it is a Ligustrum, it would have to be the Australian native posted above. Otherwise none of the Ligustrums match in any way. Because as you say, they have opposite leaves It is however more like Camphor laurel than a Ligustrum otherwise.
Now this is as it says. https://weeds.dpi.nsw.gov.au/WeedImages/Details/236?NoWeeds=5


Rather easy to see if it is a camphor laurel….crush the leaves and smell.

They do smell but I’m not convinced it is strong enough. Though it is a long time since I did that to a Camphor laurel.

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Date: 24/11/2018 12:40:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 1307779
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


ruby said:

roughbarked said:

OK. After thinking about it. If it is a Ligustrum, it would have to be the Australian native posted above. Otherwise none of the Ligustrums match in any way. Because as you say, they have opposite leaves It is however more like Camphor laurel than a Ligustrum otherwise.
Now this is as it says. https://weeds.dpi.nsw.gov.au/WeedImages/Details/236?NoWeeds=5


Rather easy to see if it is a camphor laurel….crush the leaves and smell.

They do smell but I’m not convinced it is strong enough. Though it is a long time since I did that to a Camphor laurel.

They do taste like camphor though.

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Date: 24/11/2018 14:25:22
From: Michael V
ID: 1307815
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

ruby said:

Rather easy to see if it is a camphor laurel….crush the leaves and smell.

They do smell but I’m not convinced it is strong enough. Though it is a long time since I did that to a Camphor laurel.

They do taste like camphor though.

Aren’t Camphor Laurels frost sensitive? I’ve never seen them far from the coast.

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Date: 24/11/2018 14:30:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 1307817
Subject: re: Plant ID

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

They do smell but I’m not convinced it is strong enough. Though it is a long time since I did that to a Camphor laurel.

They do taste like camphor though.

Aren’t Camphor Laurels frost sensitive? I’ve never seen them far from the coast.

Apparently not. Remember that this seedlibg started under the protective canopy of a citrus orchard. Frosts here rarely burn above five feet.

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Date: 27/12/2018 15:58:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 1321870
Subject: re: Plant ID

I do know quite a few grasses thta have pushed their way into my life but I think this could be a new one to me or one I’ve never paid attention to before.

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Date: 27/12/2018 16:04:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 1321876
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


I do know quite a few grasses thta have pushed their way into my life but I think this could be a new one to me or one I’ve never paid attention to before.


Other than perhaps, Tragus australianus?

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Date: 30/09/2020 10:58:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 1626080
Subject: re: Plant ID

Anyone seen this one before?

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Date: 30/09/2020 11:20:35
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1626103
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


Anyone seen this one before?

I don’t know it (no surprise there). I can’t even tell if it’s an orchid or not.

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Date: 30/09/2020 11:22:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 1626106
Subject: re: Plant ID

mollwollfumble said:


roughbarked said:

Anyone seen this one before?

I don’t know it (no surprise there). I can’t even tell if it’s an orchid or not.

It is not an orchid but does look morelike an iris flower.

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Date: 30/09/2020 11:23:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 1626108
Subject: re: Plant ID

how does google recognise which flower? How do I do that?

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Date: 30/09/2020 11:35:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 1626112
Subject: re: Plant ID

anyway, I’ll try it right way up.

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Date: 30/09/2020 11:40:41
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1626117
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


how does google recognise which flower? How do I do that?

Start with this perhaps? From https://www.gardenfundamentals.com/iris-identification-type/

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Date: 30/09/2020 11:49:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 1626122
Subject: re: Plant ID

mollwollfumble said:


roughbarked said:

how does google recognise which flower? How do I do that?

Start with this perhaps? From https://www.gardenfundamentals.com/iris-identification-type/

I don’t really believe it is an iris. I said it looks more like an iris than an orchid.

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Date: 30/09/2020 11:52:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 1626123
Subject: re: Plant ID

These are orchids:

These are irises:

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Date: 30/09/2020 12:22:13
From: buffy
ID: 1626146
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


anyway, I’ll try it right way up.

Looks like a garden escape. An iris. Just checking my notes. Be back in a minute.

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Date: 30/09/2020 12:24:21
From: buffy
ID: 1626150
Subject: re: Plant ID

It’s sort of like a Dietes, but the leaves don’t look right and the flower is not quite right.

https://www.australianplantsonline.com.au/dietes-grandiflora.html

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Date: 30/09/2020 12:25:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 1626151
Subject: re: Plant ID

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

anyway, I’ll try it right way up.

Looks like a garden escape. An iris. Just checking my notes. Be back in a minute.

My first thought was iris as well.
It is definitely going to be dug up because it is where I prefer natives to take over.

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Date: 30/09/2020 12:32:48
From: buffy
ID: 1626153
Subject: re: Plant ID

Many years ago, when I didn’t know what it was either, I picked some seed when we stayed at Margaret River and the motel had it in the garden. I grew it then. It is still in my garden under the feijoa, but it tries to get out. You can see here that I have started removing it by cutting it back with the hedging shears. I think I might just see what happens if I roughly cut it each year. It might be acceptable that way.

I don’t seem to have bothered to keep any photos of the flowers, although I know I’ve photographed it sometimes.

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Date: 30/09/2020 12:39:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 1626158
Subject: re: Plant ID

I doubt it is Dietes grandiflora.

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Date: 30/09/2020 12:45:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 1626168
Subject: re: Plant ID

Ruddy eck. Forgot to stand them up first.


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Date: 30/09/2020 12:57:44
From: buffy
ID: 1626172
Subject: re: Plant ID

The base part of the plant looks a bit like a Patersonia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patersonia_occidentalis

(The flower is not like our local Patersonia)

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Date: 30/09/2020 12:59:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 1626173
Subject: re: Plant ID

buffy said:


The base part of the plant looks a bit like a Patersonia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patersonia_occidentalis

(The flower is not like our local Patersonia)

Yes Patersonia does have similarities but no as you say, it isn’t our Patersonia.

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Date: 30/09/2020 13:09:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 1626178
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

The base part of the plant looks a bit like a Patersonia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patersonia_occidentalis

(The flower is not like our local Patersonia)

Yes Patersonia does have similarities but no as you say, it isn’t our Patersonia.

Anyway, it probably should be on this page but it will be one of those without photos. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iridaceae

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Date: 30/09/2020 13:19:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 1626184
Subject: re: Plant ID

Found it.

https://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Moraea~setifolia
https://vicflora.rbg.vic.gov.au/flora/taxon/2d32439a-b9b6-40c1-860a-50410004e6ba
https://florabase.dpaw.wa.gov.au/browse/profile/19177

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Date: 30/09/2020 13:22:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 1626185
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


Found it.

https://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Moraea~setifolia
https://vicflora.rbg.vic.gov.au/flora/taxon/2d32439a-b9b6-40c1-860a-50410004e6ba
https://florabase.dpaw.wa.gov.au/browse/profile/19177

Common name: Thread Iris.

Going out to remove it.

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Date: 30/09/2020 13:30:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 1626192
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

Found it.

https://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Moraea~setifolia
https://vicflora.rbg.vic.gov.au/flora/taxon/2d32439a-b9b6-40c1-860a-50410004e6ba
https://florabase.dpaw.wa.gov.au/browse/profile/19177

Common name: Thread Iris.

Going out to remove it.

Reason Wikipedia couldn’t help me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moraea_setifolia

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Date: 30/09/2020 13:32:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 1626193
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Found it.

https://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Moraea~setifolia
https://vicflora.rbg.vic.gov.au/flora/taxon/2d32439a-b9b6-40c1-860a-50410004e6ba
https://florabase.dpaw.wa.gov.au/browse/profile/19177

Common name: Thread Iris.

Going out to remove it.

Reason Wikipedia couldn’t help me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moraea_setifolia


Their ph
oto did have the leaf but not the flower colour.
In my instance most of the leaf had been destroyed by mower and the rest dessicated.

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Date: 30/09/2020 13:55:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 1626204
Subject: re: Plant ID

Had to dig more than 10cm.

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Date: 4/10/2020 09:21:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 1628035
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:


Can anyone name this? It looks like Hoya but is a tall shrub. Closest I can get so far is something from Apocynaceae and most likely, Asclepiadoideae, maybe Matelea?

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Date: 4/10/2020 10:23:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 1628041
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:


Can anyone name this? It looks like Hoya but is a tall shrub. Closest I can get so far is something from Apocynaceae and most likely, Asclepiadoideae, maybe Matelea?


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Date: 4/10/2020 11:37:03
From: buffy
ID: 1628048
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Can anyone name this? It looks like Hoya but is a tall shrub. Closest I can get so far is something from Apocynaceae and most likely, Asclepiadoideae, maybe Matelea?



Has it got perfume? Could it be a weird Vibernum?

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Date: 4/10/2020 11:41:21
From: buffy
ID: 1628049
Subject: re: Plant ID

The flower does look like a Hoya. The leaves aren’t waxy though.

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Date: 4/10/2020 14:11:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 1628133
Subject: re: Plant ID

buffy said:


The flower does look like a Hoya. The leaves aren’t waxy though.

There are Hoya that have hairy stems and leaves that bear the name Eriostemma.

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Date: 8/10/2020 09:16:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 1629758
Subject: re: Plant ID

Got it. https://www.anbg.gov.au/gnp/gnp7/rulingia-hermanniifolia.html

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Date: 8/10/2020 09:26:15
From: buffy
ID: 1629767
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


Got it. https://www.anbg.gov.au/gnp/gnp7/rulingia-hermanniifolia.html

Here it is at ALA

https://bie.ala.org.au/species/https://id.biodiversity.org.au/node/apni/2914080#overview

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Date: 8/10/2020 09:30:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 1629772
Subject: re: Plant ID

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

Got it. https://www.anbg.gov.au/gnp/gnp7/rulingia-hermanniifolia.html

Here it is at ALA

https://bie.ala.org.au/species/https://id.biodiversity.org.au/node/apni/2914080#overview

Thanks.

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