Date: 6/11/2018 08:29:06
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1299456
Subject: Tea

What do you know about psychoactive chemicals in tea other than caffeine?

I’m asking because when I was young, tea had two psychoactive components – a mental stimulant (presumably caffeine) and a muscle relaxant that kicked in first.

Most tea now, including herbal, jasmine and chai teas is just coloured water with a bit of smelly flavouring. But I just now stumbled across a boutique tea with very little caffeine but an enormous amont of muscle relaxant, more relaxing than a long hot bath.

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Date: 6/11/2018 08:32:22
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1299458
Subject: re: Tea

mollwollfumble said:


What do you know about psychoactive chemicals in tea other than caffeine?

I’m asking because when I was young, tea had two psychoactive components – a mental stimulant (presumably caffeine) and a muscle relaxant that kicked in first.

Most tea now, including herbal, jasmine and chai teas is just coloured water with a bit of smelly flavouring. But I just now stumbled across a boutique tea with very little caffeine but an enormous amont of muscle relaxant, more relaxing than a long hot bath.

Grown on the South facing slopes of the teayard, I trust.

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Date: 6/11/2018 08:35:26
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1299459
Subject: re: Tea

The Rev Dodgson said:


mollwollfumble said:

What do you know about psychoactive chemicals in tea other than caffeine?

I’m asking because when I was young, tea had two psychoactive components – a mental stimulant (presumably caffeine) and a muscle relaxant that kicked in first.

Most tea now, including herbal, jasmine and chai teas is just coloured water with a bit of smelly flavouring. But I just now stumbled across a boutique tea with very little caffeine but an enormous amont of muscle relaxant, more relaxing than a long hot bath.

Grown on the South facing slopes of the teayard, I trust.

BTW, a long hot bath twice a week is allegedly good for relieving depression, so this stuff should be even better.

Also: If modern teas have so little caffeine, how come they keep me awake at night if I drink one in the evening?

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Date: 6/11/2018 08:35:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 1299460
Subject: re: Tea

The Rev Dodgson said:


mollwollfumble said:

What do you know about psychoactive chemicals in tea other than caffeine?

I’m asking because when I was young, tea had two psychoactive components – a mental stimulant (presumably caffeine) and a muscle relaxant that kicked in first.

Most tea now, including herbal, jasmine and chai teas is just coloured water with a bit of smelly flavouring. But I just now stumbled across a boutique tea with very little caffeine but an enormous amont of muscle relaxant, more relaxing than a long hot bath.

Grown on the South facing slopes of the teayard, I trust.

Picked by hand with the morning dew on it.

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Date: 6/11/2018 08:53:10
From: Michael V
ID: 1299465
Subject: re: Tea

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

What do you know about psychoactive chemicals in tea other than caffeine?

I’m asking because when I was young, tea had two psychoactive components – a mental stimulant (presumably caffeine) and a muscle relaxant that kicked in first.

Most tea now, including herbal, jasmine and chai teas is just coloured water with a bit of smelly flavouring. But I just now stumbled across a boutique tea with very little caffeine but an enormous amont of muscle relaxant, more relaxing than a long hot bath.

Grown on the South facing slopes of the teayard, I trust.

Picked by hand with the morning dew on it.

The words “chai” and “tea” come to English from the same word in the same language, but through different routes. In some parts of the English-speaking world “chai” is the name for the drink (or its makings) that we call “tea”.

Effectively “chai tea” means “tea tea”. It is a tautological term.

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Date: 6/11/2018 08:55:53
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1299468
Subject: re: Tea

What is the name of the muscle relaxing compound?

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Date: 6/11/2018 17:21:30
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1299713
Subject: re: Tea

Witty Rejoinder said:


What is the name of the muscle relaxing compound?

Exactly. What is it?

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Date: 6/11/2018 17:22:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 1299715
Subject: re: Tea

mollwollfumble said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

What is the name of the muscle relaxing compound?

Exactly. What is it?

Confirmation bias?

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Date: 6/11/2018 17:24:06
From: Arts
ID: 1299718
Subject: re: Tea

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Grown on the South facing slopes of the teayard, I trust.

Picked by hand with the morning dew on it.

The words “chai” and “tea” come to English from the same word in the same language, but through different routes. In some parts of the English-speaking world “chai” is the name for the drink (or its makings) that we call “tea”.

Effectively “chai tea” means “tea tea”. It is a tautological term.

chai is not the spices? well, you lean something new…

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Date: 6/11/2018 17:24:38
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1299720
Subject: re: Tea

mollwollfumble said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

What is the name of the muscle relaxing compound?

Exactly. What is it?

I am looking for some evidence besides your subjective experience.

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Date: 6/11/2018 17:28:34
From: buffy
ID: 1299729
Subject: re: Tea

Is this any help? I’ve skimmed only. I’ll go back and read it properly.

https://www.chemistryworld.com/features/the-chemistry-in-your-cuppa/2500010.article

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Date: 6/11/2018 17:30:11
From: buffy
ID: 1299732
Subject: re: Tea

About halfway down, I reckon, might be what you are after:

the amino acid theanine

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Date: 6/11/2018 17:31:55
From: buffy
ID: 1299733
Subject: re: Tea

That is actually Quite Interesting. I’ll have to prepare our food, and come back to read it in more detail.

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Date: 6/11/2018 17:34:19
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1299736
Subject: re: Tea

buffy said:

Is this any help? I’ve skimmed only. I’ll go back and read it properly.

https://www.chemistryworld.com/features/the-chemistry-in-your-cuppa/2500010.article

That might be it, thanks.

“But caffeine is not the only psychoactive compound in tea – the amino acid theanine comprises about 1% of tea’s dry weight. What is unique to tea, says Nigel Melican, managing director of tea consultancy firm Teacraft, is that caffeine and theanine together have the ‘synergistic and balancing effect of stimulating and relaxing’. Where caffeine stimulates and wards off drowsiness, theanine induces a relaxed alertness that reduces mental anxiety and creates a sense of wellbeing by increasing the brain’s production of gamma-amino butyric acid and promoting alpha brainwave activity. ‘This is why theanine balances the excitation caused by caffeine,’ “

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Date: 6/11/2018 17:44:00
From: Arts
ID: 1299745
Subject: re: Tea

mollwollfumble said:


buffy said:

Is this any help? I’ve skimmed only. I’ll go back and read it properly.

https://www.chemistryworld.com/features/the-chemistry-in-your-cuppa/2500010.article

That might be it, thanks.

“But caffeine is not the only psychoactive compound in tea – the amino acid theanine comprises about 1% of tea’s dry weight. What is unique to tea, says Nigel Melican, managing director of tea consultancy firm Teacraft, is that caffeine and theanine together have the ‘synergistic and balancing effect of stimulating and relaxing’. Where caffeine stimulates and wards off drowsiness, theanine induces a relaxed alertness that reduces mental anxiety and creates a sense of wellbeing by increasing the brain’s production of gamma-amino butyric acid and promoting alpha brainwave activity. ‘This is why theanine balances the excitation caused by caffeine,’ “

and probably why they tell us to drink tea before an exam and not coffee

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Date: 6/11/2018 17:46:42
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1299748
Subject: re: Tea

The Rev Dodgson said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

What do you know about psychoactive chemicals in tea other than caffeine?

I’m asking because when I was young, tea had two psychoactive components – a mental stimulant (presumably caffeine) and a muscle relaxant that kicked in first.

Most tea now, including herbal, jasmine and chai teas is just coloured water with a bit of smelly flavouring. But I just now stumbled across a boutique tea with very little caffeine but an enormous amont of muscle relaxant, more relaxing than a long hot bath.

Grown on the South facing slopes of the teayard, I trust.

BTW, a long hot bath twice a week is allegedly good for relieving depression, so this stuff should be even better.

Also: If modern teas have so little caffeine, how come they keep me awake at night if I drink one in the evening?

Your physiology may be strange, or mine. Or your brand of tea is wrong. When overtired, I find I need a cup of coffee to wake me up enough to go to sleep.

“L-theanine is an amino acid”.

“The properties of L-theanine can be summed up as being a relaxing agent without sedation, and is also implicated in reducing the perception of stress and slightly improving attention. L-theanine does not appear to induce sleep”.

“Theanine is structurally similar to the excitatory neurotransmitter glutamate, and in accordance, binds to glutamate receptors, though with much lower affinity in comparison. … Able to cross the blood–brain barrier, theanine has reported psychoactive properties. Theanine has been studied for its potential ability to reduce mental and physical stress, improve cognition, and boost mood and cognitive performance.”

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Date: 6/11/2018 17:55:52
From: Michael V
ID: 1299753
Subject: re: Tea

I just get a hot drink with tea. No relaxation and very, very little caffeine effect. Much less than coffee or Coca Cola.

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Date: 6/11/2018 17:56:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 1299754
Subject: re: Tea

Michael V said:


I just get a hot drink with tea. No relaxation and very, very little caffeine effect. Much less than coffee or Coca Cola.

Depends which tea you drink.

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Date: 6/11/2018 17:58:11
From: sibeen
ID: 1299756
Subject: re: Tea

I really don’t understand the caffeine effect. It just doesn’t seem to effect me at all.

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Date: 6/11/2018 17:58:52
From: Arts
ID: 1299757
Subject: re: Tea

sibeen said:


I really don’t understand the caffeine effect. It just doesn’t seem to effect me at all.

do you even drink caffeine?

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Date: 6/11/2018 17:59:42
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1299758
Subject: re: Tea

sibeen said:


I really don’t understand the caffeine effect. It just doesn’t seem to effect me at all.

Same here.

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Date: 6/11/2018 17:59:57
From: Michael V
ID: 1299759
Subject: re: Tea

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

I just get a hot drink with tea. No relaxation and very, very little caffeine effect. Much less than coffee or Coca Cola.

Depends which tea you drink.

Well, what would you recommend?

I have some nice-tasting Chinese green tea here that cost more than $1000 per kilo – yes, more than $1k/kg (present from a Chinese colleague). No effect, but tastes nice.

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Date: 6/11/2018 18:00:15
From: sibeen
ID: 1299760
Subject: re: Tea

Arts said:


sibeen said:

I really don’t understand the caffeine effect. It just doesn’t seem to effect me at all.

do you even drink caffeine?

During the day I’d have a minimum of 5 cups of coffee and a cup of tea with lunch.

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Date: 6/11/2018 18:03:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 1299761
Subject: re: Tea

sibeen said:


I really don’t understand the caffeine effect. It just doesn’t seem to effect me at all.

Probably built up an immunity.

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Date: 6/11/2018 18:03:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 1299762
Subject: re: Tea

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

I just get a hot drink with tea. No relaxation and very, very little caffeine effect. Much less than coffee or Coca Cola.

Depends which tea you drink.

Well, what would you recommend?

I have some nice-tasting Chinese green tea here that cost more than $1000 per kilo – yes, more than $1k/kg (present from a Chinese colleague). No effect, but tastes nice.

That’s the sort of stuff.

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Date: 6/11/2018 18:03:50
From: Arts
ID: 1299763
Subject: re: Tea

sibeen said:


Arts said:

sibeen said:

I really don’t understand the caffeine effect. It just doesn’t seem to effect me at all.

do you even drink caffeine?

During the day I’d have a minimum of 5 cups of coffee and a cup of tea with lunch.

you know there is water in those

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Date: 6/11/2018 18:04:24
From: Arts
ID: 1299764
Subject: re: Tea

we only have decaf tea and, of course, peppermint

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Date: 6/11/2018 18:04:53
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1299765
Subject: re: Tea

sibeen said:


Arts said:

sibeen said:

I really don’t understand the caffeine effect. It just doesn’t seem to effect me at all.

do you even drink caffeine?

During the day I’d have a minimum of 5 cups of coffee and a cup of tea with lunch.

What happens when you go without?

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Date: 6/11/2018 18:09:37
From: sibeen
ID: 1299767
Subject: re: Tea

Arts said:


sibeen said:

Arts said:

do you even drink caffeine?

During the day I’d have a minimum of 5 cups of coffee and a cup of tea with lunch.

you know there is water in those

I boil the water to take away the fishy taste.

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Date: 6/11/2018 18:10:15
From: sibeen
ID: 1299768
Subject: re: Tea

Witty Rejoinder said:


sibeen said:

Arts said:

do you even drink caffeine?

During the day I’d have a minimum of 5 cups of coffee and a cup of tea with lunch.

What happens when you go without?

How the hell would I know?

:)

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Date: 6/11/2018 18:12:32
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1299769
Subject: re: Tea

sibeen said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

sibeen said:

During the day I’d have a minimum of 5 cups of coffee and a cup of tea with lunch.

What happens when you go without?

How the hell would I know?

:)

Do the experiment. No booze substitute either.

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Date: 6/11/2018 18:13:24
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1299770
Subject: re: Tea

Witty Rejoinder said:


sibeen said:

Arts said:

do you even drink caffeine?

During the day I’d have a minimum of 5 cups of coffee and a cup of tea with lunch.

What happens when you go without?

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Date: 6/11/2018 18:24:44
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1299773
Subject: re: Tea

You like your COFFEE in the morning MV. What are you like beforehand?

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Date: 6/11/2018 18:33:47
From: Michael V
ID: 1299774
Subject: re: Tea

sibeen said:


Arts said:

sibeen said:

During the day I’d have a minimum of 5 cups of coffee and a cup of tea with lunch.

you know there is water in those

I boil the water to take away the fishy taste.

LOL

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Date: 6/11/2018 18:37:33
From: Michael V
ID: 1299778
Subject: re: Tea

Witty Rejoinder said:


You like your COFFEE in the morning MV. What are you like beforehand?

Pretty useless. Inhuman. That sort of thing.

Most days I have one or two mugs of strong black coffee. Today I had three-quarters of a mug. I’ve made another, but it’s now too late to drink it, so I’ll have it in the morning.

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Date: 6/11/2018 18:38:29
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1299780
Subject: re: Tea

Michael V said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

You like your COFFEE in the morning MV. What are you like beforehand?

Pretty useless. Inhuman. That sort of thing.

Most days I have one or two mugs of strong black coffee. Today I had three-quarters of a mug. I’ve made another, but it’s now too late to drink it, so I’ll have it in the morning.

And I thought I was tight arse.

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Date: 6/11/2018 18:40:28
From: Arts
ID: 1299782
Subject: re: Tea

Michael V said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

You like your COFFEE in the morning MV. What are you like beforehand?

Pretty useless. Inhuman. That sort of thing.

Most days I have one or two mugs of strong black coffee. Today I had three-quarters of a mug. I’ve made another, but it’s now too late to drink it, so I’ll have it in the morning.

or pour it in the garden and go a fresh mug

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Date: 6/11/2018 18:42:39
From: Michael V
ID: 1299783
Subject: re: Tea

AwesomeO said:


Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

You like your COFFEE in the morning MV. What are you like beforehand?

Pretty useless. Inhuman. That sort of thing.

Most days I have one or two mugs of strong black coffee. Today I had three-quarters of a mug. I’ve made another, but it’s now too late to drink it, so I’ll have it in the morning.

And I thought I was tight arse.

It’s a time thing (as well). It takes about an hour to draw and get cool enough to drink. If I don’t drink it at that time, sometimes I drink it cold, sometimes I re-heat in the microwave.

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Date: 6/11/2018 18:43:11
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1299784
Subject: re: Tea

I’m a much better person without caffeine. Whoda thunk it?

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Date: 6/11/2018 18:43:11
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1299785
Subject: re: Tea

Michael V said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

You like your COFFEE in the morning MV. What are you like beforehand?

Pretty useless. Inhuman. That sort of thing.


I am guessing that translates as muddle-headed, lethargic etc

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Date: 6/11/2018 18:50:05
From: Michael V
ID: 1299787
Subject: re: Tea

Witty Rejoinder said:


Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

You like your COFFEE in the morning MV. What are you like beforehand?

Pretty useless. Inhuman. That sort of thing.


I am guessing that translates as muddle-headed, lethargic etc

Yeah, that and more. Including unable to focus.

I mean, I’m like that after having my coffee too, but it’s not so pronounced.

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Date: 6/11/2018 18:53:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 1299791
Subject: re: Tea

Arts said:


Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

You like your COFFEE in the morning MV. What are you like beforehand?

Pretty useless. Inhuman. That sort of thing.

Most days I have one or two mugs of strong black coffee. Today I had three-quarters of a mug. I’ve made another, but it’s now too late to drink it, so I’ll have it in the morning.

or pour it in the garden and go a fresh mug

Microwaves changed all that.

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Date: 6/11/2018 18:53:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 1299792
Subject: re: Tea

Witty Rejoinder said:


Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

You like your COFFEE in the morning MV. What are you like beforehand?

Pretty useless. Inhuman. That sort of thing.


I am guessing that translates as muddle-headed, lethargic etc

I’m thhat way with coffee in me.

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Date: 6/11/2018 19:03:16
From: Ian
ID: 1299795
Subject: re: Tea

Arts said:


Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

You like your COFFEE in the morning MV. What are you like beforehand?

Pretty useless. Inhuman. That sort of thing.

Most days I have one or two mugs of strong black coffee. Today I had three-quarters of a mug. I’ve made another, but it’s now too late to drink it, so I’ll have it in the morning.

or pour it in the garden and go a fresh mug

And waste half a packet of coffee beans!?

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Date: 6/11/2018 19:06:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 1299796
Subject: re: Tea

Ian said:


Arts said:

Michael V said:

Pretty useless. Inhuman. That sort of thing.

Most days I have one or two mugs of strong black coffee. Today I had three-quarters of a mug. I’ve made another, but it’s now too late to drink it, so I’ll have it in the morning.

or pour it in the garden and go a fresh mug

And waste half a packet of coffee beans!?

The beans still end up in the garden. It is OK if they go through me.

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Date: 6/11/2018 19:13:32
From: Michael V
ID: 1299799
Subject: re: Tea

Ian said:


Arts said:

Michael V said:

Pretty useless. Inhuman. That sort of thing.

Most days I have one or two mugs of strong black coffee. Today I had three-quarters of a mug. I’ve made another, but it’s now too late to drink it, so I’ll have it in the morning.

or pour it in the garden and go a fresh mug

And waste half a packet of coffee beans!?

Can’t do that!

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Date: 6/11/2018 19:16:45
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1299801
Subject: re: Tea

roughbarked said:


sibeen said:

I really don’t understand the caffeine effect. It just doesn’t seem to effect me at all.

Probably built up an immunity.

More likely you’re too young for it to have an effect. It didn’t affect me until I got older.

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Date: 6/11/2018 19:18:20
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1299802
Subject: re: Tea

mollwollfumble said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Grown on the South facing slopes of the teayard, I trust.

BTW, a long hot bath twice a week is allegedly good for relieving depression, so this stuff should be even better.

Also: If modern teas have so little caffeine, how come they keep me awake at night if I drink one in the evening?

Your physiology may be strange, or mine. Or your brand of tea is wrong. When overtired, I find I need a cup of coffee to wake me up enough to go to sleep.

“L-theanine is an amino acid”.

“The properties of L-theanine can be summed up as being a relaxing agent without sedation, and is also implicated in reducing the perception of stress and slightly improving attention. L-theanine does not appear to induce sleep”.

“Theanine is structurally similar to the excitatory neurotransmitter glutamate, and in accordance, binds to glutamate receptors, though with much lower affinity in comparison. … Able to cross the blood–brain barrier, theanine has reported psychoactive properties. Theanine has been studied for its potential ability to reduce mental and physical stress, improve cognition, and boost mood and cognitive performance.”

I can’t see it available as a food supplement in Australia, even though it doesn’t seem to be banned.

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Date: 6/11/2018 19:20:22
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1299804
Subject: re: Tea

mollwollfumble said:


roughbarked said:

sibeen said:

I really don’t understand the caffeine effect. It just doesn’t seem to effect me at all.

Probably built up an immunity.

More likely you’re too young for it to have an effect. It didn’t affect me until I got older.

Sibeen’s on his second life-time. He’s no spring chicken.

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Date: 6/11/2018 19:20:51
From: Arts
ID: 1299805
Subject: re: Tea

roughbarked said:


Arts said:

Michael V said:

Pretty useless. Inhuman. That sort of thing.

Most days I have one or two mugs of strong black coffee. Today I had three-quarters of a mug. I’ve made another, but it’s now too late to drink it, so I’ll have it in the morning.

or pour it in the garden and go a fresh mug

Microwaves changed all that.

I don’t think I have ever heated a coffee in the microwave.. ever

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Date: 6/11/2018 19:24:15
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1299807
Subject: re: Tea

Arts said:


roughbarked said:

Arts said:

or pour it in the garden and go a fresh mug

Microwaves changed all that.

I don’t think I have ever heated a coffee in the microwave.. ever

Only milk and some Moccona nuked makes a nice and cheap caffe latte substitute if you haven’t already surrendered to the pod based variations.

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Date: 6/11/2018 19:28:36
From: Arts
ID: 1299809
Subject: re: Tea

Ian said:


Arts said:

Michael V said:

Pretty useless. Inhuman. That sort of thing.

Most days I have one or two mugs of strong black coffee. Today I had three-quarters of a mug. I’ve made another, but it’s now too late to drink it, so I’ll have it in the morning.

or pour it in the garden and go a fresh mug

And waste half a packet of coffee beans!?

I think the plants like it

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Date: 6/11/2018 19:30:59
From: Arts
ID: 1299811
Subject: re: Tea

Witty Rejoinder said:


Arts said:

roughbarked said:

Microwaves changed all that.

I don’t think I have ever heated a coffee in the microwave.. ever

if you haven’t already surrendered to the pod based variations.

I think it’s fairly obvious that I have…

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Date: 6/11/2018 19:38:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 1299813
Subject: re: Tea

Arts said:


roughbarked said:

Arts said:

or pour it in the garden and go a fresh mug

Microwaves changed all that.

I don’t think I have ever heated a coffee in the microwave.. ever

Neither have I but a lot of others do.

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Date: 6/11/2018 19:39:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 1299814
Subject: re: Tea

Arts said:


Ian said:

Arts said:

or pour it in the garden and go a fresh mug

And waste half a packet of coffee beans!?

I think the plants like it

The soil flora and fauna does.

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Date: 6/11/2018 19:40:33
From: Michael V
ID: 1299816
Subject: re: Tea

mollwollfumble said:


mollwollfumble said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

BTW, a long hot bath twice a week is allegedly good for relieving depression, so this stuff should be even better.

Also: If modern teas have so little caffeine, how come they keep me awake at night if I drink one in the evening?

Your physiology may be strange, or mine. Or your brand of tea is wrong. When overtired, I find I need a cup of coffee to wake me up enough to go to sleep.

“L-theanine is an amino acid”.

“The properties of L-theanine can be summed up as being a relaxing agent without sedation, and is also implicated in reducing the perception of stress and slightly improving attention. L-theanine does not appear to induce sleep”.

“Theanine is structurally similar to the excitatory neurotransmitter glutamate, and in accordance, binds to glutamate receptors, though with much lower affinity in comparison. … Able to cross the blood–brain barrier, theanine has reported psychoactive properties. Theanine has been studied for its potential ability to reduce mental and physical stress, improve cognition, and boost mood and cognitive performance.”

I can’t see it available as a food supplement in Australia, even though it doesn’t seem to be banned.

What about this?

https://www.biovea.net/au/product_detail.aspx?PID=3556&TI=GGLAU&C=N&gclid=Cj0KCQiAlIXfBRCpARIsAKvManyufQHNF-vZsVJIgkrURnMgDaTYDvvs-ucqui4E1Qo6Rtaz0GPIIDoaAg4pEALw_wcB

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Date: 6/11/2018 19:42:25
From: Michael V
ID: 1299818
Subject: re: Tea

Arts said:


roughbarked said:

Arts said:

or pour it in the garden and go a fresh mug

Microwaves changed all that.

I don’t think I have ever heated a coffee in the microwave.. ever

I have, lots.

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Date: 6/11/2018 20:21:46
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1299831
Subject: re: Tea

A cuppa is always good but every now and then you make a cuppa where everything comes together and it really really hits the spot.

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Date: 6/11/2018 20:27:44
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1299836
Subject: re: Tea

Cyclists lives are completely dependent on the good offices of motorists.

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Date: 6/11/2018 20:30:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 1299838
Subject: re: Tea

Peak Warming Man said:


Cyclists lives are completely dependent on the good offices of motorists.

Whether their offices have good tea and coffee?

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Date: 13/11/2018 16:17:33
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1302856
Subject: re: Tea

Unless, of course, the expensive tea also contains cannabis.

Muscle relaxant?

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Date: 13/11/2018 16:20:13
From: Ian
ID: 1302860
Subject: re: Tea

mollwollfumble said:


Unless, of course, the expensive tea also contains cannabis.

Muscle relaxant?

Why not use Nature’s own diazapam?

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Date: 13/11/2018 16:20:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 1302862
Subject: re: Tea

mollwollfumble said:


Unless, of course, the expensive tea also contains cannabis.

Muscle relaxant?

Cannabis is a depressive. Slows down messages from brain to body.

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