Date: 7/11/2018 21:42:00
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1300311
Subject: Three moons of Earth

In QI, the number of moons that the Earth has was stated wrongly three times. Because they included co-orbitals, temporary moons and hypothetical moons in with our real Moon.

Now a new answer has arisen – three, our familiar Moon and two dust clouds at the Earth-Moon L5 point.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/techandscience/dust-moons-spotted-orbiting-earth-confirming-decades-of-speculation/ar-BBPqh6o?li=AA4Zor

Originally spotted in 1961, their existance has only now been confirmed.

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Date: 7/11/2018 22:54:15
From: Ian
ID: 1300323
Subject: re: Three moons of Earth

The Earth has one moon.

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Date: 8/11/2018 05:19:42
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1300349
Subject: re: Three moons of Earth

Ian said:


The Earth has one moon.

The Earth is the largest object in the solar system that doesn’t have a ring system. So I’ve been keeping a lookout for observations of a dust ring around the Earth. But none has so far been seen. I figured that observations of this would have to come from a deep space spacecraft specifically equipped with a low light camera to observe this, and so far no large astronomical telescope has been in deep space in a position to observe such rings.

But what I hadn’t taken into account was that the rings of Neptune are lumpy, lumped into ring arcs. And the presence of Earth’s big Moon would have a big effect on breaking up any rings into lumps of gas.

I note in passing that the Stereo spacecraft were asked in passing to take a look at the Lagrangian points in passing, but I didn’t see any published paper so assumed that nothing was seen.

The original press release is this one:
https://ras.ac.uk/news-and-press/research-highlights/earths-dust-cloud-satellites-confirmed

Lagrange points, L4 and L5, form an equal-sided triangle with the Earth and Moon, and move around the Earth as the Moon moves along its orbit.

L4 and L5 are not completely stable, as they are disturbed by the gravitational pull of the Sun. Nonetheless they are thought to be locations where interplanetary dust might collect, at least temporarily. Kordylewski observed two nearby clusters of dust at L5 in 1961, with various reports since then, but their extreme faintness makes them difficult to detect and many scientists doubted their existence.

In a paper earlier this year the Hungarian team, led by Gábor Horváth of Eötvös Loránd University, modelled the Kordylewski clouds to assess how they form and how they might be detected. The researchers were interested in their appearance using polarising filters, which transmit light with a particular direction of oscillation, similar to those found on some types of sunglasses. Scattered or reflected light is always more or less polarised, depending on the angle of scattering or reflection.

They then set out to find the dust clouds. With a linearly polarising filter system attached to a camera lens and CCD detector at Slíz-Balogh’s private observatory in Hungary (Badacsonytördemic), the scientists took exposures of the purported location of the Kordylewski cloud at the L5 point.

The images they obtained show polarised light reflected from dust, extending well outside the field of view of the camera lens. The observed pattern matches predictions made by the same group of researchers in an earlier paper and is consistent with the earliest observations of the Kordylewski clouds six decades ago. Horváth’s group were able to rule out optical artefacts and other effects, meaning that the presence of the dust cloud is confirmed.

Judit Slíz-Balogh comments on their discovery: “The Kordylewski clouds are two of the toughest objects to find, and though they are as close to Earth as the Moon are largely overlooked by researchers in astronomy. It is intriguing to confirm that our planet has dusty pseudo-satellites in orbit alongside our lunar neighbour.”

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Date: 8/11/2018 05:37:56
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1300350
Subject: re: Three moons of Earth

The Kordylewski dust cloud is visible in both the p-pattern (clusters of black pixels with 10 per cent ≤ p ≤ 20 per cent) and the α-pattern (red pixels with 81° ≤ α ≤ 90°).

The above figure shows the frequency of the degree of linear polarization p (per cent) measured around the L5 Lagrange point in 2017 August 17 at 23:29:67 UT with 73° phase angle (Fig. 3A), and in 2017 August 19 at 01:14:15 UT with 87.3° phase angle (Fig. 3B). The most frequently occurring p*-value is 6 and 7 per cent in the former and latter case, respectively. Furthermore, the frequency of p* in the former case is smaller (15.8 per cent) than that in the latter case (16.9 per cent).

Looking at a place other than L5, the polarisation is structureless.

Computer-simulated volume density distribution of the particles of the KDC around the L5 point (white dot) of the Earth–Moon system. The darker the grey shade, the larger is the particle density.

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Date: 8/11/2018 06:33:23
From: dv
ID: 1300351
Subject: re: Three moons of Earth

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Date: 8/11/2018 08:14:28
From: Ian
ID: 1300363
Subject: re: Three moons of Earth

Kordylewski observed two nearby clusters of dust at L5 in 1961,

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‘Dust moons’ spotted orbiting Earth

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Ok

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Date: 8/11/2018 11:24:03
From: Cymek
ID: 1300446
Subject: re: Three moons of Earth

dv said:



That’s no moon it’s your momma

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