Date: 14/11/2018 17:59:30
From: transition
ID: 1303303
Subject: talk to the animals
you might talk to your pet cat, your dog, your horse, the goldfish, or even wild animals in some contexts.
it’s not for everyone, some people probably aren’t inclined at all. I have my moments I wonder if it’s weird, probably corresponding with wondering if someone else is hearing me. To a doesn’t-talk-to-animals person, well, you can’t know what view they arrive at. Perhaps their are different psychological species of humans.
of domesticated animals it’s helpful maybe if they understand some noises you make, grunts you know, associated with whatever. Helpful to them too. They can likely discern something of your intentions from the force in your tone, maybe even pick your mood.
talking to animals may be an acceptable expression of something like talking to an invisible friend. It’s fine while you’re a toddler. At some point, it could be as you’re first learning impulse control, you start putting those demons away, hidden. They’re probably still there, call it your inner voice/s, all respectable now, you’ve got a executive voice, conscience (with a press agent), and likely credit yourself with consciousness.
so why speak English words to your pets, or wild animals?
practice, soliloquizing maybe.
baby humans rely on grunts I notice, rely on reversion to by parents etc, so it looks like keeping the simple language of grunts and the origin from which more nuances articulation emerge is important.
Date: 14/11/2018 18:04:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 1303308
Subject: re: talk to the animals
transition said:
you might talk to your pet cat, your dog, your horse, the goldfish, or even wild animals in some contexts.
it’s not for everyone, some people probably aren’t inclined at all. I have my moments I wonder if it’s weird, probably corresponding with wondering if someone else is hearing me. To a doesn’t-talk-to-animals person, well, you can’t know what view they arrive at. Perhaps their are different psychological species of humans.
of domesticated animals it’s helpful maybe if they understand some noises you make, grunts you know, associated with whatever. Helpful to them too. They can likely discern something of your intentions from the force in your tone, maybe even pick your mood.
talking to animals may be an acceptable expression of something like talking to an invisible friend. It’s fine while you’re a toddler. At some point, it could be as you’re first learning impulse control, you start putting those demons away, hidden. They’re probably still there, call it your inner voice/s, all respectable now, you’ve got a executive voice, conscience (with a press agent), and likely credit yourself with consciousness.
so why speak English words to your pets, or wild animals?
practice, soliloquizing maybe.
baby humans rely on grunts I notice, rely on reversion to by parents etc, so it looks like keeping the simple language of grunts and the origin from which more nuances articulation emerge is important.
I talk to animals. In English to dogs because they have more chance of recognizing it. I sometiimes talk to birds in English because I think they are smart enough to recognise your intent no matter what laguage. To chooks I say burrk buck buck buck.
Date: 14/11/2018 18:06:59
From: Arts
ID: 1303313
Subject: re: talk to the animals
might have a lot to do with the fact that making true animals noises is tough for humans… physiology vocal cords something something.
Date: 14/11/2018 18:09:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 1303316
Subject: re: talk to the animals
Arts said:
might have a lot to do with the fact that making true animals noises is tough for humans… physiology vocal cords something something.
Yep. Some birds are easy enough. A lot of people can bark like a dog. Most are beyond us.
Date: 14/11/2018 19:29:39
From: transition
ID: 1303342
Subject: re: talk to the animals
off course humans talk to other animals all the time, each other.
Date: 14/11/2018 19:40:12
From: transition
ID: 1303345
Subject: re: talk to the animals
MyHealth computer system’s been rushed into casualty, on life support and been put in an induced coma
Date: 14/11/2018 20:01:16
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1303360
Subject: re: talk to the animals
One thing that irks me slightly is that mrs m talks more to her cat than she talks to me.
We each talk to the house and car on occasions.
Date: 14/11/2018 20:01:49
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1303361
Subject: re: talk to the animals
mollwollfumble said:
One thing that irks me slightly is that mrs m talks more to her cat than she talks to me.
We each talk to the house and car on occasions.
It’s good to talk.
Date: 14/11/2018 20:27:09
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1303369
Subject: re: talk to the animals
I have always talked to animals.
My dog has quite a long list of words he understands. The last spaniel, Poppy, understood a lot more words than Cobbett. But Cobbett is pretty good.
He knows DOG FOOD is kept in the CUPBOARD. He knows the names of various dog food stuffs. I let him know what something is called when I introduce it to his diet. He knows the name of some human food stuffs. Like CHEESE. It is in the FRIDGE. DOG SAUSAGE is also kept in the fridge. I can ask him what he wants for dinner. He definitely knows the difference between DRY DOG FOOD, GOURMET DOG FOOD or a CAN. Especially a CAN OF CHICKEN AND DUCK.
He knows INSIDE and OUTSIDE. HERE. MY BED. COBBETT“S BED. ROUND THE BACK. GET DOWN. UP HERE. MOVE. GO AWAY. STOP THAT. BAD DOG. GOOD DOG.
He knows the names of maybe a dozen or more people and some dogs. And generic VISITORS.
Lots of words about TRICKS. (If you say,‘DO TRICKS’ he will CHASE HIS TAIL, THAT WAY and THE OTHER WAY. Or TALK. Or TALK THREE TIMES) Some tricks are a vocal command and hand signal. Like ROLL OVER and BEG.
He understands the difference between FETCH and CATCH. He refers to play CATCH.
There are names for most of his toys. I can ask him to BRING ME the ANGRY KANGAROO SQUEAKY TOY. or a BALL or the NEW SQUEAKY TOY.
He also knows that one of the squeaky toys is MY SQUEAKY TOY. He knows that YOU’RE NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE MY SQUEAKY TOY OUTSIDE. He will put SQUEAKY TOYS in HIS BED when told.
He doesn’t like BAD BIRDS.(Currawongs) but doesn’t give a toss about GOOD BIRDS (any other birds)
He likes being a LAP DOG.(He’s too big to be a lap dog really) And if I ask for a CUDDLE he rests his head on my shoulder.
He doesn’t understand why I don’t have a CAR. Because he likes to go to the SHOP. He has no problems understanding that CATH can take him in her CAR to the DOG BEACH. He waits for the MAN FROM THE SHOP to bring the groceries.
This list is only some of it. It isn’t because he is the only one that I can talk to. As I said. I have always talked to animals. He understands a lot. But I know he doesn’t understand a lot too. I had a bright lab once but he didn’t understand as much as Poppy and Cobbett. Barklee the spaniel didn’t have the same vocab as much as I worked with him.
I have not learnt to speak much dog. Except for the whinging whiney noise. SAD DOG.
Date: 14/11/2018 20:35:09
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1303373
Subject: re: talk to the animals
sarahs mum said:
I have always talked to animals.
My dog has quite a long list of words he understands. The last spaniel, Poppy, understood a lot more words than Cobbett. But Cobbett is pretty good.
He knows DOG FOOD is kept in the CUPBOARD. He knows the names of various dog food stuffs. I let him know what something is called when I introduce it to his diet. He knows the name of some human food stuffs. Like CHEESE. It is in the FRIDGE. DOG SAUSAGE is also kept in the fridge. I can ask him what he wants for dinner. He definitely knows the difference between DRY DOG FOOD, GOURMET DOG FOOD or a CAN. Especially a CAN OF CHICKEN AND DUCK.
He knows INSIDE and OUTSIDE. HERE. MY BED. COBBETT“S BED. ROUND THE BACK. GET DOWN. UP HERE. MOVE. GO AWAY. STOP THAT. BAD DOG. GOOD DOG.
He knows the names of maybe a dozen or more people and some dogs. And generic VISITORS.
Lots of words about TRICKS. (If you say,‘DO TRICKS’ he will CHASE HIS TAIL, THAT WAY and THE OTHER WAY. Or TALK. Or TALK THREE TIMES) Some tricks are a vocal command and hand signal. Like ROLL OVER and BEG.
He understands the difference between FETCH and CATCH. He refers to play CATCH.
There are names for most of his toys. I can ask him to BRING ME the ANGRY KANGAROO SQUEAKY TOY. or a BALL or the NEW SQUEAKY TOY.
He also knows that one of the squeaky toys is MY SQUEAKY TOY. He knows that YOU’RE NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE MY SQUEAKY TOY OUTSIDE. He will put SQUEAKY TOYS in HIS BED when told.
He doesn’t like BAD BIRDS.(Currawongs) but doesn’t give a toss about GOOD BIRDS (any other birds)
He likes being a LAP DOG.(He’s too big to be a lap dog really) And if I ask for a CUDDLE he rests his head on my shoulder.
He doesn’t understand why I don’t have a CAR. Because he likes to go to the SHOP. He has no problems understanding that CATH can take him in her CAR to the DOG BEACH. He waits for the MAN FROM THE SHOP to bring the groceries.
This list is only some of it. It isn’t because he is the only one that I can talk to. As I said. I have always talked to animals. He understands a lot. But I know he doesn’t understand a lot too. I had a bright lab once but he didn’t understand as much as Poppy and Cobbett. Barklee the spaniel didn’t have the same vocab as much as I worked with him.
I have not learnt to speak much dog. Except for the whinging whiney noise. SAD DOG.
:)
There’s enough info there for me to have a long conversation with Cobbett.
Date: 14/11/2018 20:36:30
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1303374
Subject: re: talk to the animals
sarahs mum said:
I have always talked to animals.
My dog has quite a long list of words he understands. The last spaniel, Poppy, understood a lot more words than Cobbett. But Cobbett is pretty good.
He knows DOG FOOD is kept in the CUPBOARD. He knows the names of various dog food stuffs. I let him know what something is called when I introduce it to his diet. He knows the name of some human food stuffs. Like CHEESE. It is in the FRIDGE. DOG SAUSAGE is also kept in the fridge. I can ask him what he wants for dinner. He definitely knows the difference between DRY DOG FOOD, GOURMET DOG FOOD or a CAN. Especially a CAN OF CHICKEN AND DUCK.
He knows INSIDE and OUTSIDE. HERE. MY BED. COBBETT“S BED. ROUND THE BACK. GET DOWN. UP HERE. MOVE. GO AWAY. STOP THAT. BAD DOG. GOOD DOG.
He knows the names of maybe a dozen or more people and some dogs. And generic VISITORS.
Lots of words about TRICKS. (If you say,‘DO TRICKS’ he will CHASE HIS TAIL, THAT WAY and THE OTHER WAY. Or TALK. Or TALK THREE TIMES) Some tricks are a vocal command and hand signal. Like ROLL OVER and BEG.
He understands the difference between FETCH and CATCH. He refers to play CATCH.
There are names for most of his toys. I can ask him to BRING ME the ANGRY KANGAROO SQUEAKY TOY. or a BALL or the NEW SQUEAKY TOY.
He also knows that one of the squeaky toys is MY SQUEAKY TOY. He knows that YOU’RE NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE MY SQUEAKY TOY OUTSIDE. He will put SQUEAKY TOYS in HIS BED when told.
He doesn’t like BAD BIRDS.(Currawongs) but doesn’t give a toss about GOOD BIRDS (any other birds)
He likes being a LAP DOG.(He’s too big to be a lap dog really) And if I ask for a CUDDLE he rests his head on my shoulder.
He doesn’t understand why I don’t have a CAR. Because he likes to go to the SHOP. He has no problems understanding that CATH can take him in her CAR to the DOG BEACH. He waits for the MAN FROM THE SHOP to bring the groceries.
This list is only some of it. It isn’t because he is the only one that I can talk to. As I said. I have always talked to animals. He understands a lot. But I know he doesn’t understand a lot too. I had a bright lab once but he didn’t understand as much as Poppy and Cobbett. Barklee the spaniel didn’t have the same vocab as much as I worked with him.
I have not learnt to speak much dog. Except for the whinging whiney noise. SAD DOG.
The most confusing word is ‘it’s.’
“It’s cold and rainy” usually gets him racing to the window to see who it is.
Date: 14/11/2018 20:37:01
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1303376
Subject: re: talk to the animals
The Barely-Domesticated Wolf certainly also know s the word CHEESE.
I think he can hear and recognise it through two brick walls and a solid door.
Date: 14/11/2018 20:39:07
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1303377
Subject: re: talk to the animals
captain_spalding said:
The Barely-Domesticated Wolf certainly also know s the word CHEESE.
I think he can hear and recognise it through two brick walls and a solid door.
Grandson Henry only has a half dozen words. Cheese is one of them.
Date: 14/11/2018 20:39:51
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1303378
Subject: re: talk to the animals
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:
The Barely-Domesticated Wolf certainly also know s the word CHEESE.
I think he can hear and recognise it through two brick walls and a solid door.
Grandson Henry only has a half dozen words. Cheese is one of them.
Getting the important ones worked out first.
Date: 14/11/2018 20:43:03
From: party_pants
ID: 1303382
Subject: re: talk to the animals
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:
The Barely-Domesticated Wolf certainly also know s the word CHEESE.
I think he can hear and recognise it through two brick walls and a solid door.
Grandson Henry only has a half dozen words. Cheese is one of them.
Getting the important ones worked out first.
Chese is a very useful word. I love cheese.
Date: 14/11/2018 21:02:46
From: dv
ID: 1303386
Subject: re: talk to the animals
What a neat achievement that would be
Date: 14/11/2018 21:32:48
From: Arts
ID: 1303390
Subject: re: talk to the animals
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
Grandson Henry only has a half dozen words. Cheese is one of them.
Getting the important ones worked out first.
Chese is a very useful word. I love cheese.
we don’t even have to say anything, just open the part of the fridge that the cheese is in and the dog comes running from wherever she is…
Date: 14/11/2018 21:34:08
From: party_pants
ID: 1303392
Subject: re: talk to the animals
Arts said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
Getting the important ones worked out first.
Chese is a very useful word. I love cheese.
we don’t even have to say anything, just open the part of the fridge that the cheese is in and the dog comes running from wherever she is…
I’ll add that to the list of valid reasons why I don’t have a dog.
Date: 14/11/2018 21:49:25
From: sibeen
ID: 1303398
Subject: re: talk to the animals
I don’t think I’ve ever give the dog any cheese. I wouldn’t know if she liked it or not.
Date: 14/11/2018 21:50:52
From: Arts
ID: 1303399
Subject: re: talk to the animals
sibeen said:
I don’t think I’ve ever give the dog any cheese.
you monster
Date: 14/11/2018 21:52:46
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1303402
Subject: re: talk to the animals
Arts said:
sibeen said:
I don’t think I’ve ever give the dog any cheese.
you monster
:)
Date: 14/11/2018 21:52:58
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1303403
Subject: re: talk to the animals
Arts said:
sibeen said:
I don’t think I’ve ever give the dog any cheese.
you monster
We have a list of foods that we’re not game to ever let the dog taste, because nothing else will be good enough after that:
Ice cream
Cheesecake
Custard
Custard tarts
Date: 14/11/2018 21:54:44
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1303404
Subject: re: talk to the animals
captain_spalding said:
Arts said:
sibeen said:
I don’t think I’ve ever give the dog any cheese.
you monster
We have a list of foods that we’re not game to ever let the dog taste, because nothing else will be good enough after that:
Ice cream
Cheesecake
Custard
Custard tarts
Chocolate. Grapes.
Date: 14/11/2018 22:01:17
From: Arts
ID: 1303406
Subject: re: talk to the animals
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:
Arts said:
you monster
We have a list of foods that we’re not game to ever let the dog taste, because nothing else will be good enough after that:
Ice cream
Cheesecake
Custard
Custard tarts
Chocolate. Grapes.
chocolate and grapes, onions and anything stemming from the last two are all definite o no’s because of health reasons..
I don’t know if a dog has died from too much icecream though…
Date: 14/11/2018 22:03:03
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1303407
Subject: re: talk to the animals
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:
We have a list of foods that we’re not game to ever let the dog taste, because nothing else will be good enough after that:
Ice cream
Cheesecake
Custard
Custard tarts
Chocolate. Grapes.
chocolate and grapes, onions and anything stemming from the last two are all definite o no’s because of health reasons..
I don’t know if a dog has died from too much icecream though…
I feel like custard now.
Date: 14/11/2018 22:04:17
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1303408
Subject: re: talk to the animals
Bit of gamer goss. In Skyrim, to steal something you have to remain unseen, or kill the person who saw it before they can report it. A bit of a feature is chickens can witness a crime.
Date: 14/11/2018 22:10:40
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1303410
Subject: re: talk to the animals
AwesomeO said:
Bit of gamer goss. In Skyrim, to steal something you have to remain unseen, or kill the person who saw it before they can report it. A bit of a feature is chickens can witness a crime.
Well that’s a fictional feature born of reality.
I’s common knowledge that chickens will gather at a crime scene.
Date: 15/11/2018 03:42:28
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1303480
Subject: re: talk to the animals
> talking to animals may be an acceptable expression of something like talking to an invisible friend. It’s fine while you’re a toddler. At some point, it could be as you’re first learning impulse control, you start putting those demons away, hidden. They’re probably still there, call it your inner voice/s, all respectable now, you’ve got a executive voice, conscience (with a press agent), and likely credit yourself with consciousness.So why speak English words to your pets, or wild animals?
For me, what I say to my house and car is usually an apology.
What I say to the pet cat is usually words in a soothing tone intended to calm it down.
What Mrs m says to the pet cat and to the wild animals she feeds is usually baby talk, including telling the seagulls off when they misbehave, because.that’s what a pet is, a substitute baby.
I wonder how strong the correlation is between pet ownership and number of dependent children. More pets fewer dependent children. Then think of the consequences of this from a global resources point of view.
Date: 15/11/2018 06:59:18
From: buffy
ID: 1303484
Subject: re: talk to the animals
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:
We have a list of foods that we’re not game to ever let the dog taste, because nothing else will be good enough after that:
Ice cream
Cheesecake
Custard
Custard tarts
Chocolate. Grapes.
chocolate and grapes, onions and anything stemming from the last two are all definite o no’s because of health reasons..
I don’t know if a dog has died from too much icecream though…
we once worked out how much milk chocolate it would take to kill a fully grown Boxer. It was a lot. More than a kg, if I remember correctly. So we continued giving the dog compound chocolate frogs when we walked to the shop. Even for dark chocolate it was a lot more than one normal block.
Date: 15/11/2018 09:50:14
From: Arts
ID: 1303510
Subject: re: talk to the animals
buffy said:
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
Chocolate. Grapes.
chocolate and grapes, onions and anything stemming from the last two are all definite o no’s because of health reasons..
I don’t know if a dog has died from too much icecream though…
we once worked out how much milk chocolate it would take to kill a fully grown Boxer. It was a lot. More than a kg, if I remember correctly. So we continued giving the dog compound chocolate frogs when we walked to the shop. Even for dark chocolate it was a lot more than one normal block.
and yet all vets and animal care people say ot to do it. There are even campaigns at easter time…
Date: 15/11/2018 09:52:35
From: esselte
ID: 1303511
Subject: re: talk to the animals
>so why speak English words to your pets, or wild animals?
Evolutionary psychology. Humans are social animals. Consider the difference walking in to the office and saying good morning to people, if they reply to you or if they all studiously ignore you. Talking is as much about the subtext as the text. Our psychology is tuned to dealing with other human beings, but not so finely tuned that it doesn’t extend to other creatures.
Date: 15/11/2018 09:59:02
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1303513
Subject: re: talk to the animals
Arts said:
buffy said:
Arts said:
chocolate and grapes, onions and anything stemming from the last two are all definite o no’s because of health reasons..
I don’t know if a dog has died from too much icecream though…
we once worked out how much milk chocolate it would take to kill a fully grown Boxer. It was a lot. More than a kg, if I remember correctly. So we continued giving the dog compound chocolate frogs when we walked to the shop. Even for dark chocolate it was a lot more than one normal block.
and yet all vets and animal care people say ot to do it. There are even campaigns at easter time…
Like most public messages, that’s because you have to aim for lowest common idiot.
Date: 15/11/2018 10:04:29
From: Arts
ID: 1303514
Subject: re: talk to the animals
poikilotherm said:
Arts said:
buffy said:
we once worked out how much milk chocolate it would take to kill a fully grown Boxer. It was a lot. More than a kg, if I remember correctly. So we continued giving the dog compound chocolate frogs when we walked to the shop. Even for dark chocolate it was a lot more than one normal block.
and yet all vets and animal care people say ot to do it. There are even campaigns at easter time…
Like most public messages, that’s because you have to aim for lowest common idiot.
also chocolate is dangerous for dogs because I’ll kill them for eating my chocolate
Date: 15/11/2018 10:25:21
From: transition
ID: 1303518
Subject: re: talk to the animals
esselte said:
>so why speak English words to your pets, or wild animals?
Evolutionary psychology. Humans are social animals. Consider the difference walking in to the office and saying good morning to people, if they reply to you or if they all studiously ignore you. Talking is as much about the subtext as the text. Our psychology is tuned to dealing with other human beings, but not so finely tuned that it doesn’t extend to other creatures.
there is too the more mundane point that talking involves breathing, and you can turn the idea around and say breathing is talking.
so you know vocalizations are nuanced breathing.
I notice it regularly when the ladies are concluding, and the heavy breathing, even if not explicitly said in English, means the same as I love you.
Date: 15/11/2018 10:40:35
From: esselte
ID: 1303524
Subject: re: talk to the animals
transition said:
I notice it regularly when the ladies are concluding, and the heavy breathing, even if not explicitly said in English, means the same as I love you.
Regularly, heh? Well, that’s above my pay grade. :)
But on the same note, I’m as anti-social as people come and especially hate being jammed in amongst crowds. At the shops, in the busy lead up to Christmas I sometimes catch myself sub-vocally growling at people if there’s too many of them invading my personal space.
Date: 15/11/2018 10:49:20
From: transition
ID: 1303533
Subject: re: talk to the animals
esselte said:
transition said:
I notice it regularly when the ladies are concluding, and the heavy breathing, even if not explicitly said in English, means the same as I love you.
Regularly, heh? Well, that’s above my pay grade. :)
But on the same note, I’m as anti-social as people come and especially hate being jammed in amongst crowds. At the shops, in the busy lead up to Christmas I sometimes catch myself sub-vocally growling at people if there’s too many of them invading my personal space.
I was half joking
and of christmas and crowds, you and half the world
Date: 15/11/2018 11:11:55
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1303543
Subject: re: talk to the animals
buffy said:
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
Chocolate. Grapes.
chocolate and grapes, onions and anything stemming from the last two are all definite o no’s because of health reasons..
I don’t know if a dog has died from too much icecream though…
we once worked out how much milk chocolate it would take to kill a fully grown Boxer. It was a lot. More than a kg, if I remember correctly. So we continued giving the dog compound chocolate frogs when we walked to the shop. Even for dark chocolate it was a lot more than one normal block.
Yeah. I did the numbers once and it really is only small dogs or very large volumes that run any risks. It is still on my no go list.
Date: 15/11/2018 13:05:07
From: buffy
ID: 1303567
Subject: re: talk to the animals
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
Arts said:
chocolate and grapes, onions and anything stemming from the last two are all definite o no’s because of health reasons..
I don’t know if a dog has died from too much icecream though…
we once worked out how much milk chocolate it would take to kill a fully grown Boxer. It was a lot. More than a kg, if I remember correctly. So we continued giving the dog compound chocolate frogs when we walked to the shop. Even for dark chocolate it was a lot more than one normal block.
Yeah. I did the numbers once and it really is only small dogs or very large volumes that run any risks. It is still on my no go list.
It was probably 25 years ago that we did it, before any of the public warnings and stuff. We use jelly babies and jelly beans for treats now. And dried liver treats. Not rawhide…not much is more disgusting than a Boxer regurgitating a rawhide “bone”. Well, perhaps a Boxer regurgitating a pigs ear…
Date: 15/11/2018 13:12:52
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1303573
Subject: re: talk to the animals
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
we once worked out how much milk chocolate it would take to kill a fully grown Boxer. It was a lot. More than a kg, if I remember correctly. So we continued giving the dog compound chocolate frogs when we walked to the shop. Even for dark chocolate it was a lot more than one normal block.
Yeah. I did the numbers once and it really is only small dogs or very large volumes that run any risks. It is still on my no go list.
It was probably 25 years ago that we did it, before any of the public warnings and stuff. We use jelly babies and jelly beans for treats now. And dried liver treats. Not rawhide…not much is more disgusting than a Boxer regurgitating a rawhide “bone”. Well, perhaps a Boxer regurgitating a pigs ear…
I don’t do rawhide either.
I do goodos, schmackos and Nature’s Gift mini treats, liver or chicken.
I work the spaniels hunt instinct with goodos. I ‘start’ them on goodos instead of wildlife. Sometimes I will put the dog out and while he is away doing his thing I will hide 20 or so goodos around the house. All are found within a minute or two.
Date: 15/11/2018 13:14:15
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1303575
Subject: re: talk to the animals
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
Yeah. I did the numbers once and it really is only small dogs or very large volumes that run any risks. It is still on my no go list.
It was probably 25 years ago that we did it, before any of the public warnings and stuff. We use jelly babies and jelly beans for treats now. And dried liver treats. Not rawhide…not much is more disgusting than a Boxer regurgitating a rawhide “bone”. Well, perhaps a Boxer regurgitating a pigs ear…
I don’t do rawhide either.
I do goodos, schmackos and Nature’s Gift mini treats, liver or chicken.
I work the spaniels hunt instinct with goodos. I ‘start’ them on goodos instead of wildlife. Sometimes I will put the dog out and while he is away doing his thing I will hide 20 or so goodos around the house. All are found within a minute or two.
LOL
Date: 15/11/2018 13:16:28
From: Arts
ID: 1303578
Subject: re: talk to the animals
I saw an alarmist post on facebook the other day where they warned (with exclamation marks) about not giving you dog one of the popular dental sticks because it contained Sodium Tripolyphosphate.. which she then said “yes, that’s right ANTIFREEZE!!!”
Date: 15/11/2018 13:18:17
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1303579
Subject: re: talk to the animals
Arts said:
I saw an alarmist post on facebook the other day where they warned (with exclamation marks) about not giving you dog one of the popular dental sticks because it contained Sodium Tripolyphosphate.. which she then said “yes, that’s right ANTIFREEZE!!!”
Yeah but when the snow thaws, your dog is A-OK.
Date: 15/11/2018 13:25:06
From: transition
ID: 1303581
Subject: re: talk to the animals
Arts said:
I saw an alarmist post on facebook the other day where they warned (with exclamation marks) about not giving you dog one of the popular dental sticks because it contained Sodium Tripolyphosphate.. which she then said “yes, that’s right ANTIFREEZE!!!”
been giving larry dental sticks. Never left him outside on frosty winter nights, it’s nice to know he would be protected now.
Date: 15/11/2018 13:27:03
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1303583
Subject: re: talk to the animals
I don’t do dental sticks. I figure hard tack does the job.
Date: 15/11/2018 13:32:39
From: transition
ID: 1303586
Subject: re: talk to the animals
sarahs mum said:
I don’t do dental sticks. I figure hard tack does the job.
larry has the worst bum breath
reading packet…
ingredients
sodium tripolyphosphate 2.6%
you know if it works I won’t have to give him intravenous glycol on frosty nights
Date: 15/11/2018 13:38:15
From: transition
ID: 1303589
Subject: re: talk to the animals
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
I don’t do dental sticks. I figure hard tack does the job.
larry has the worst bum breath
reading packet…
ingredients
sodium tripolyphosphate 2.6%
you know if it works I won’t have to give him intravenous glycol on frosty nights
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_triphosphate
Other uses
Other uses (hundreds of thousands of tons/year) include ceramics (decrease the viscosity of glazes up to a certain limit), leather tanning (as masking agent and synthetic tanning agent – SYNTAN), anticaking, setting retarders, flame retardants, paper, anticorrosion pigments, textiles, rubber manufacture, fermentation, antifreeze.” TPP is used as a polyanion crosslinker in polysaccharide based drug delivery
Date: 15/11/2018 13:40:52
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1303591
Subject: re: talk to the animals
transition said:
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
I don’t do dental sticks. I figure hard tack does the job.
larry has the worst bum breath
reading packet…
ingredients
sodium tripolyphosphate 2.6%
you know if it works I won’t have to give him intravenous glycol on frosty nights
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_triphosphate
Other uses
Other uses (hundreds of thousands of tons/year) include ceramics (decrease the viscosity of glazes up to a certain limit), leather tanning (as masking agent and synthetic tanning agent – SYNTAN), anticaking, setting retarders, flame retardants, paper, anticorrosion pigments, textiles, rubber manufacture, fermentation, antifreeze.” TPP is used as a polyanion crosslinker in polysaccharide based drug delivery
I have seen people complaining about the use of it in winemaking.
Date: 15/11/2018 13:48:50
From: Arts
ID: 1303593
Subject: re: talk to the animals
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
I don’t do dental sticks. I figure hard tack does the job.
larry has the worst bum breath
reading packet…
ingredients
sodium tripolyphosphate 2.6%
you know if it works I won’t have to give him intravenous glycol on frosty nights
I thik the food grade one is also in toothpaste
Date: 15/11/2018 13:54:42
From: transition
ID: 1303596
Subject: re: talk to the animals
Arts said:
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
I don’t do dental sticks. I figure hard tack does the job.
larry has the worst bum breath
reading packet…
ingredients
sodium tripolyphosphate 2.6%
you know if it works I won’t have to give him intravenous glycol on frosty nights
I thik the food grade one is also in toothpaste
lady just gave larry a dental stick, apparently he’s burying it, so he may have overheard us talking and decided it was unsafe