Date: 23/05/2009 09:45:52
From: AnneS
ID: 56760
Subject: Strine and other language bits

Well better bring it over here rather than filling up chat

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Date: 23/05/2009 09:54:39
From: bluegreen
ID: 56762
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

Dinetta said:

We have breakfast, lunch and dinner…altho’ sometimes I believe supper can mean dinner but that might still be a hangover from some stratum of British culture…

I see Dinner as being the main meal of the day. This could be at lunch time or in the evening. If your main meal is during the day, then you would have Supper, a lighter meal, in the evening. so depending on your habits or culture you would have Breakfast, Dinner and Supper; or Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner.

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Date: 23/05/2009 09:56:34
From: AnneS
ID: 56764
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

bluegreen said:


Dinetta said:

We have breakfast, lunch and dinner…altho’ sometimes I believe supper can mean dinner but that might still be a hangover from some stratum of British culture…

I see Dinner as being the main meal of the day. This could be at lunch time or in the evening. If your main meal is during the day, then you would have Supper, a lighter meal, in the evening. so depending on your habits or culture you would have Breakfast, Dinner and Supper; or Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner.

I think there was also an element of “country” and “city” to it.

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Date: 23/05/2009 09:57:33
From: veg gardener
ID: 56765
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

bluegreen said:


Dinetta said:

We have breakfast, lunch and dinner…altho’ sometimes I believe supper can mean dinner but that might still be a hangover from some stratum of British culture…

I see Dinner as being the main meal of the day. This could be at lunch time or in the evening. If your main meal is during the day, then you would have Supper, a lighter meal, in the evening. so depending on your habits or culture you would have Breakfast, Dinner and Supper; or Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner.

to my faimly it goes Breaky Lunch and then Tea or Dinner, for one lot of grandparents (mums side) it goes breaky and then a hot meal at lunch time for us which is there tea and then its a snack later.

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Date: 23/05/2009 09:58:49
From: bluegreen
ID: 56766
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

AnneS said:


bluegreen said:

Dinetta said:

We have breakfast, lunch and dinner…altho’ sometimes I believe supper can mean dinner but that might still be a hangover from some stratum of British culture…

I see Dinner as being the main meal of the day. This could be at lunch time or in the evening. If your main meal is during the day, then you would have Supper, a lighter meal, in the evening. so depending on your habits or culture you would have Breakfast, Dinner and Supper; or Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner.

I think there was also an element of “country” and “city” to it.

could be that too.

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Date: 23/05/2009 10:05:13
From: bluegreen
ID: 56769
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

OK, Mr BG says when he was growing up in England, Dinner was the midday meal and would be more substantial than what we may have for lunch here. The main evening meal was Tea, and you may also or instead have Supper, a lighter meal in the evening. So it was Breakfast, Dinner, then Tea and/or Supper. School kids could go home for Dinner if they lived close enough, or have something that was supplied by the school and would be a cooked meal.

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Date: 23/05/2009 10:06:30
From: veg gardener
ID: 56770
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

bluegreen said:


OK, Mr BG says when he was growing up in England, Dinner was the midday meal and would be more substantial than what we may have for lunch here. The main evening meal was Tea, and you may also or instead have Supper, a lighter meal in the evening. So it was Breakfast, Dinner, then Tea and/or Supper. School kids could go home for Dinner if they lived close enough, or have something that was supplied by the school and would be a cooked meal.

thats the same as my grandparents mums from England.

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Date: 23/05/2009 10:15:57
From: AnneS
ID: 56771
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

bluegreen said:


OK, Mr BG says when he was growing up in England, Dinner was the midday meal and would be more substantial than what we may have for lunch here. The main evening meal was Tea, and you may also or instead have Supper, a lighter meal in the evening. So it was Breakfast, Dinner, then Tea and/or Supper. School kids could go home for Dinner if they lived close enough, or have something that was supplied by the school and would be a cooked meal.

I think often in rural Australia the main hot meal for the day would have been in the middle of the day. Although one lot of my farming relos used to have hot vegies both in middle of day and at night. The only difference was that at night the meat was hot and in the middle of the day it was cold left-overs meat (eg roast lamb)

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Date: 23/05/2009 10:41:11
From: Bubba Louie
ID: 56781
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

Breakfast, lunch and dinner here, no matter what they contain.

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Date: 23/05/2009 10:45:57
From: Happy Potter
ID: 56783
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

Breakfast lunch and tea here.
If i asked my mum what was for dinner back when , she would tell me its tea, and mind your language.
lol

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Date: 23/05/2009 11:32:31
From: Dinetta
ID: 56788
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

Happy Potter said:


Breakfast lunch and tea here.
If i asked my mum what was for dinner back when , she would tell me its tea, and mind your language.
lol

Come to think of it, tea and dinner were interchangeable in my family…as descriptions of the main meal…

However like Bubba Louie, ours was Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner (or Tea) no matter what was in the meal…

We always had the hot meal as the main meal, in the evening, 7 pip emma on the dot so we could listen to the ABC news (which went for 15 mins back then, International, national and finally Qld news) followed by a story, I still remember somebody reading “The Big Smoke”…I was allowed to push my ear up against the radio while everybody else had to sit around…we had no television back then…

Then the Labour govt came in and ABC radio changed forever, all this “expert” talk about social conditions, etc etc….

After we offspring left school, Mum changed the cooked meal to the middle of the day, as she was getting on and it was just too hot with the slow combustion of an afternoon…

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Date: 23/05/2009 11:37:56
From: Bubba Louie
ID: 56791
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

Dinetta said:


Happy Potter said:

Breakfast lunch and tea here.
If i asked my mum what was for dinner back when , she would tell me its tea, and mind your language.
lol

Come to think of it, tea and dinner were interchangeable in my family…as descriptions of the main meal…

However like Bubba Louie, ours was Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner (or Tea) no matter what was in the meal…

I can remember it sometimes being called tea as well but that seemed to have been overtaken by dinner.

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Date: 23/05/2009 11:39:59
From: Bubba Louie
ID: 56792
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

Lunch, as a planned meal, never happens here anymore unless we have visitors. It’s more a case of every man/woman for themselves.

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Date: 23/05/2009 11:43:25
From: Dinetta
ID: 56794
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

Bubba Louie said:


Lunch, as a planned meal, never happens here anymore unless we have visitors. It’s more a case of every man/woman for themselves.

Or, as mine call it, “catch as catch can”…

When the kiddiwinkles are all home, only the Sunday brunch and the evening meals are planned…I’d go more nuts than I already am otherwise…

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Date: 23/05/2009 11:59:09
From: AnneS
ID: 56795
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

Bubba Louie said:


Dinetta said:

Happy Potter said:

Breakfast lunch and tea here.
If i asked my mum what was for dinner back when , she would tell me its tea, and mind your language.
lol

Come to think of it, tea and dinner were interchangeable in my family…as descriptions of the main meal…

However like Bubba Louie, ours was Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner (or Tea) no matter what was in the meal…

I can remember it sometimes being called tea as well but that seemed to have been overtaken by dinner.

My family always called it tea. But I started calling it Dinner years ago and so it has stuck….suppose I probably thought it sounded less country bumpkin when I lived in Sydney for a few years

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Date: 23/05/2009 12:00:54
From: AnneS
ID: 56796
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

Bubba Louie said:


Lunch, as a planned meal, never happens here anymore unless we have visitors. It’s more a case of every man/woman for themselves.

Been like that here for years. The kids learnt very early on to be self-sufficient when we owne the general store. They regularly got their own breakfast and lunch, and often had turns at cooking dinner

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Date: 23/05/2009 12:50:35
From: bluegreen
ID: 56797
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

Bubba Louie said:


Lunch, as a planned meal, never happens here anymore unless we have visitors. It’s more a case of every man/woman for themselves.

ditto, unless I feel like making some soup or something. But it is still help yourself when you feel like it. Not like the regimented meal times when I was a kid. My dad expected a cup of tea waiting at 5pm when he got home from work, dinner/tea was 6.30pm sharp, to be finished in time for the 7pm news. We were never allowed to eat in front of the TV except for one occasion when we had been out and dinner was 1/2 late so they made an exception so they could watch the news. Weekend lunches were served and eaten as a family with cold meat and salad and bread for sandwiches in warm weather and soup plus sandwich makings in cold. And I mentioned she prepared cooked breakfasts as well! I reckon my mum who also worked 4 days a week must have spent every bit of her time in the kitchen either preparing or clearing up!

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Date: 23/05/2009 13:10:59
From: Bubba Louie
ID: 56807
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

Dinetta said:


Bubba Louie said:

Lunch, as a planned meal, never happens here anymore unless we have visitors. It’s more a case of every man/woman for themselves.

Or, as mine call it, “catch as catch can”…

When the kiddiwinkles are all home, only the Sunday brunch and the evening meals are planned…I’d go more nuts than I already am otherwise…

We have “catch and kill”. LOL

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Date: 23/05/2009 15:15:51
From: Dinetta
ID: 56812
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

Bubba Louie said:


Dinetta said:

Bubba Louie said:

Lunch, as a planned meal, never happens here anymore unless we have visitors. It’s more a case of every man/woman for themselves.

Or, as mine call it, “catch as catch can”…

When the kiddiwinkles are all home, only the Sunday brunch and the evening meals are planned…I’d go more nuts than I already am otherwise…

We have “catch and kill”. LOL

Oh yeah, that’s what I meant!

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Date: 23/05/2009 15:29:57
From: Dinetta
ID: 56814
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

Another example of a word getting misused with age, is “tart” in reference to a female…

My uncle called one of my friends a “tart” about 40 years ago…I said “Mum that wasn’t nice of Uncle” (after he’d left) and Mum said “well many years ago when he was young, a “tart” was a nice-looking sheila”…

thinking steamed golden syrup pudding for dinner tonight…hmm…so not on my weight management programme…

but Sonny Jim will be in for tea…

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Date: 23/05/2009 15:39:06
From: bluegreen
ID: 56815
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

Dinetta said:

thinking steamed golden syrup pudding for dinner tonight…hmm…so not on my weight management programme…

but Sonny Jim will be in for tea…

yumm. my mum used to make that.

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Date: 23/05/2009 15:45:30
From: veg gardener
ID: 56816
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

what does it taste like.

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Date: 23/05/2009 15:53:45
From: bluegreen
ID: 56817
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

veg gardener said:


what does it taste like.

a cake like pudding with golden syrup soaked around the edges, served hot with custard. Yummmm…

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Date: 23/05/2009 15:56:49
From: veg gardener
ID: 56818
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

bluegreen said:


veg gardener said:

what does it taste like.

a cake like pudding with golden syrup soaked around the edges, served hot with custard. Yummmm…

o ok.

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Date: 23/05/2009 16:11:21
From: Grasshopper
ID: 56819
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

bluegreen said:


Dinetta said:

thinking steamed golden syrup pudding for dinner tonight…hmm…so not on my weight management programme…

but Sonny Jim will be in for tea…

yumm. my mum used to make that.

Yes YUM !!!!

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Date: 23/05/2009 17:11:11
From: pepe
ID: 56824
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

breakfast, lunch and tea.
dinner came in with a bit of snob appeal. pretty soon tho’ it became ‘dindins’ and quickly was reduced in the way most things are reduced by the idiom.
supper was never really practiced at our place. hot cocoa was a ‘nightcap’ and dessert was ‘sweets’, altho’ never ‘pudding’, as some brits would have it.

for a few years in my twenties (1970’s) there was an odd custom of ‘sherries’ before a meal. sweet and dry sherry were both terrible – so fortunately the custom died – altho’ cream sherry can still be acceptable occasionally.

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Date: 23/05/2009 17:34:08
From: AnneS
ID: 56827
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

Dinetta said:


Another example of a word getting misused with age, is “tart” in reference to a female…

My uncle called one of my friends a “tart” about 40 years ago…I said “Mum that wasn’t nice of Uncle” (after he’d left) and Mum said “well many years ago when he was young, a “tart” was a nice-looking sheila”…

thinking steamed golden syrup pudding for dinner tonight…hmm…so not on my weight management programme…

but Sonny Jim will be in for tea…

Mum didn’t make many desserts when I was young, but I have often done golden syrup dumplings when on Girl Guide Camps. Don’t make them at home though very often cause MrS is very keen on them

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Date: 23/05/2009 17:34:46
From: AnneS
ID: 56828
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

Grasshopper said:


bluegreen said:

Dinetta said:

thinking steamed golden syrup pudding for dinner tonight…hmm…so not on my weight management programme…

but Sonny Jim will be in for tea…

yumm. my mum used to make that.

Yes YUM !!!!

Most definitely YUM!

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Date: 23/05/2009 17:40:07
From: AnneS
ID: 56830
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

pepe said:


breakfast, lunch and tea.
dinner came in with a bit of snob appeal. pretty soon tho’ it became ‘dindins’ and quickly was reduced in the way most things are reduced by the idiom.
supper was never really practiced at our place. hot cocoa was a ‘nightcap’ and dessert was ‘sweets’, altho’ never ‘pudding’, as some brits would have it.

for a few years in my twenties (1970’s) there was an odd custom of ‘sherries’ before a meal. sweet and dry sherry were both terrible – so fortunately the custom died – altho’ cream sherry can still be acceptable occasionally.

We mostly had icecream (often home made with carnation milk) and either home preserved or tinned fruit for dessert and we always called it “pudding” when I was a kitd. Now though, we all call it “sweets” I think

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Date: 23/05/2009 17:41:14
From: AnneS
ID: 56831
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

AnneS said:


Dinetta said:

Another example of a word getting misused with age, is “tart” in reference to a female…

My uncle called one of my friends a “tart” about 40 years ago…I said “Mum that wasn’t nice of Uncle” (after he’d left) and Mum said “well many years ago when he was young, a “tart” was a nice-looking sheila”…

thinking steamed golden syrup pudding for dinner tonight…hmm…so not on my weight management programme…

but Sonny Jim will be in for tea…

Mum didn’t make many desserts when I was young, but I have often done golden syrup dumplings when on Girl Guide Camps. Don’t make them at home though very often cause MrS is very keen on them

That is supposed to say that MrS isn’t very keen on them

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Date: 23/05/2009 18:23:23
From: Bubba Louie
ID: 56834
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

AnneS said:


Grasshopper said:

bluegreen said:

yumm. my mum used to make that.

Yes YUM !!!!

Most definitely YUM!

A bit too sweet for me.

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Date: 23/05/2009 18:24:59
From: Happy Potter
ID: 56837
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

AnneS said:


Grasshopper said:

bluegreen said:

yumm. my mum used to make that.

Yes YUM !!!!

Most definitely YUM!

Oh and guess what I made for sweets tonight lol.. lemon syrup dumplings :)
Same thing, just use lemon juice and a bit more sugar. Beautiful

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Date: 23/05/2009 20:09:28
From: Dinetta
ID: 56847
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

AnneS said:


pepe said:

breakfast, lunch and tea.
dinner came in with a bit of snob appeal. pretty soon tho’ it became ‘dindins’ and quickly was reduced in the way most things are reduced by the idiom.
supper was never really practiced at our place. hot cocoa was a ‘nightcap’ and dessert was ‘sweets’, altho’ never ‘pudding’, as some brits would have it.

for a few years in my twenties (1970’s) there was an odd custom of ‘sherries’ before a meal. sweet and dry sherry were both terrible – so fortunately the custom died – altho’ cream sherry can still be acceptable occasionally.

We mostly had icecream (often home made with carnation milk) and either home preserved or tinned fruit for dessert and we always called it “pudding” when I was a kitd. Now though, we all call it “sweets” I think

Yes we called it “pudding” too…but now pudding for us is a particular type of dessert (like the golden syrup pudding) and sweets are things like we eventually ended up having tonight: mango ice…

Sonny Jim nearly didn’t go back to his current home, but they’ve mustering tomorrow with a before-dawn start…

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Date: 23/05/2009 20:10:32
From: Dinetta
ID: 56848
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

AnneS said:


pepe said:

breakfast, lunch and tea.
dinner came in with a bit of snob appeal. pretty soon tho’ it became ‘dindins’ and quickly was reduced in the way most things are reduced by the idiom.
supper was never really practiced at our place. hot cocoa was a ‘nightcap’ and dessert was ‘sweets’, altho’ never ‘pudding’, as some brits would have it.

for a few years in my twenties (1970’s) there was an odd custom of ‘sherries’ before a meal. sweet and dry sherry were both terrible – so fortunately the custom died – altho’ cream sherry can still be acceptable occasionally.

We mostly had icecream (often home made with carnation milk) and either home preserved or tinned fruit for dessert and we always called it “pudding” when I was a kitd. Now though, we all call it “sweets” I think

The icecream with carnation milk sounds good… was it good? My mother’s home made icecream was famous for breaking teeth…

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Date: 23/05/2009 20:40:13
From: AnneS
ID: 56858
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

Dinetta said:


AnneS said:

pepe said:

breakfast, lunch and tea.
dinner came in with a bit of snob appeal. pretty soon tho’ it became ‘dindins’ and quickly was reduced in the way most things are reduced by the idiom.
supper was never really practiced at our place. hot cocoa was a ‘nightcap’ and dessert was ‘sweets’, altho’ never ‘pudding’, as some brits would have it.

for a few years in my twenties (1970’s) there was an odd custom of ‘sherries’ before a meal. sweet and dry sherry were both terrible – so fortunately the custom died – altho’ cream sherry can still be acceptable occasionally.

We mostly had icecream (often home made with carnation milk) and either home preserved or tinned fruit for dessert and we always called it “pudding” when I was a kitd. Now though, we all call it “sweets” I think

The icecream with carnation milk sounds good… was it good? My mother’s home made icecream was famous for breaking teeth…

As a kid I always thought it was “second-best” because it wasn’t from the shop. It was probably quite tasty. What I do remember was the coarse texture,( large crystalline). It didn’t have the smooth, creamy texture of the bought ice-cream and was a very off-white colour.

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Date: 23/05/2009 20:43:45
From: Bubba Louie
ID: 56861
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

AnneS said:


Dinetta said:

AnneS said:

We mostly had icecream (often home made with carnation milk) and either home preserved or tinned fruit for dessert and we always called it “pudding” when I was a kitd. Now though, we all call it “sweets” I think

The icecream with carnation milk sounds good… was it good? My mother’s home made icecream was famous for breaking teeth…

As a kid I always thought it was “second-best” because it wasn’t from the shop. It was probably quite tasty. What I do remember was the coarse texture,( large crystalline). It didn’t have the smooth, creamy texture of the bought ice-cream and was a very off-white colour.

I didn’t much like icecream at all as a kid.

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Date: 23/05/2009 20:57:26
From: bluegreen
ID: 56863
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

AnneS said:


Dinetta said:

The icecream with carnation milk sounds good… was it good? My mother’s home made icecream was famous for breaking teeth…

As a kid I always thought it was “second-best” because it wasn’t from the shop. It was probably quite tasty. What I do remember was the coarse texture,( large crystalline). It didn’t have the smooth, creamy texture of the bought ice-cream and was a very off-white colour.

I have made it a long time ago but the trick for a fine light texture is the stirring while it is freezing which is hard to do without an icecream maker.

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Date: 23/05/2009 21:00:49
From: pepe
ID: 56865
Subject: re: Strine and other language bits

The icecream with carnation milk sounds good… was it good? My mother’s home made icecream was famous for breaking teeth…
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we had home made ice cream for a while – it took a lot of beating and i was always on the egg beaters. – just cream, milk and gelatine i think – maybe an egg – anyrate – you put it in the freezer to set and then take it out and beat it again. the more cream you used the better the end product.

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