from chat discussion about the American missionary who was killed by those uncontacted natives in the Indian Ocean. He brought brought with him gifts of a football and some fish.
How we laughed. But then somebody asked: what would be the perfect gift?
party_pants said:
from chat discussion about the American missionary who was killed by those uncontacted natives in the Indian Ocean. He brought brought with him gifts of a football and some fish.How we laughed. But then somebody asked: what would be the perfect gift?
They have nothing? According to who?
kii said:
party_pants said:
from chat discussion about the American missionary who was killed by those uncontacted natives in the Indian Ocean. He brought brought with him gifts of a football and some fish.How we laughed. But then somebody asked: what would be the perfect gift?
They have nothing? According to who?
Unilineal Evolutionists, who tend to believe that social sophistication is measurable against a series of checkpoints along a line which starts with hunter-gatherers, and ends with twenty-first century Californians.
What about…
Cut two large windows in a container and fill it up with single mattresses and bedding. And boxes of doughnuts and chocolate.
And put a spy cam on the corner.
And drop it in by helicopter. And piss off again.
party_pants said:
from chat discussion about the American missionary who was killed by those uncontacted natives in the Indian Ocean. He brought brought with him gifts of a football and some fish.How we laughed. But then somebody asked: what would be the perfect gift?
You’re not going to like the answer. Tobacco.
The third most prized western item among the wild Aborigines of the Kimberleys 70 years ago was glass – for making arrowheads. Se also the movie “The gods must be crazy”. Empty bottles are valuable.
The second most prized item was iron. Any iron. An aborigine back then would steal all the iron they could. In a stone age culture, all iron is very valuable.
The most prized of all was tobacco. An aborigine would be prepared to do anything for tobacco.
mollwollfumble said:
party_pants said:
from chat discussion about the American missionary who was killed by those uncontacted natives in the Indian Ocean. He brought brought with him gifts of a football and some fish.How we laughed. But then somebody asked: what would be the perfect gift?
You’re not going to like the answer. Tobacco.
The third most prized western item among the wild Aborigines of the Kimberleys 70 years ago was glass – for making arrowheads. See also the movie “The gods must be crazy”. Empty bottles are valuable.
The second most prized item was iron. Any iron. An aborigine back then would steal all the iron they could. In a stone age culture, all iron is very valuable.
The most prized of all was tobacco. An aborigine would be prepared to do anything for tobacco.
Another unexpectedly valuable item. Not among uncontacted tribes this time but among semi-wild tribes. Is batteries.
Having read this thread and the other comments in Chat, it occurs to me that taking gifts is possibly unnecessary. Probably better to present as lost, defenseless, needing help. Might not fare any better though with those people. The end result may well be the same.
mollwollfumble said:
mollwollfumble said:
party_pants said:
from chat discussion about the American missionary who was killed by those uncontacted natives in the Indian Ocean. He brought brought with him gifts of a football and some fish.How we laughed. But then somebody asked: what would be the perfect gift?
You’re not going to like the answer. Tobacco.
The third most prized western item among the wild Aborigines of the Kimberleys 70 years ago was glass – for making arrowheads. See also the movie “The gods must be crazy”. Empty bottles are valuable.
The second most prized item was iron. Any iron. An aborigine back then would steal all the iron they could. In a stone age culture, all iron is very valuable.
The most prized of all was tobacco. An aborigine would be prepared to do anything for tobacco.
Another unexpectedly valuable item. Not among uncontacted tribes this time but among semi-wild tribes. Is batteries.
In internal PNG salt was valuable.
In remote parts of the Congo (though probably not any more) antibiotics as a form of white man magic, but they didn’t use them right, given a packet a sick person would take one then sell the rest.
Guns and bullets are always popular.
AwesomeO said:
Guns and bullets are always popular.
They’ve always been a wonderment to and a symbol of potency among uncivilised peoples.
Explains much about the U.S.
The third most prized western item among the wild Aborigines of the Kimberleys 70 years ago was glass – for making arrowheads. Se also the movie “The gods must be crazy”. Empty bottles are valuable.
—-
But ONE empty coke bottle is an evil thing.
:)
party_pants said:
from chat discussion about the American missionary who was killed by those uncontacted natives in the Indian Ocean. He brought brought with him gifts of a football and some fish.How we laughed. But then somebody asked: what would be the perfect gift?
Staying the fuck away.
dv said:
party_pants said:
from chat discussion about the American missionary who was killed by those uncontacted natives in the Indian Ocean. He brought brought with him gifts of a football and some fish.How we laughed. But then somebody asked: what would be the perfect gift?
Staying the fuck away.
Yes, no gift is the ultimate gift.
Ian said:
dv said:
party_pants said:
from chat discussion about the American missionary who was killed by those uncontacted natives in the Indian Ocean. He brought brought with him gifts of a football and some fish.How we laughed. But then somebody asked: what would be the perfect gift?
Staying the fuck away.
Yes, no gift is the ultimate gift.
I wonder if the locals still have small pox?
Buy them anything from the middle aisle at Aldi and watch as they try to work out what it is and how to use it.
They won’t be the same after we give them the allen key.
dv said:
party_pants said:
from chat discussion about the American missionary who was killed by those uncontacted natives in the Indian Ocean. He brought brought with him gifts of a football and some fish.How we laughed. But then somebody asked: what would be the perfect gift?
Staying the fuck away.
OK, the fish I can sort of understand, but I doubt these poor benighted individuals have ever seen a game of Aussie Rules.
A cigarette lighter and a box of flints.
kii said:
party_pants said:
from chat discussion about the American missionary who was killed by those uncontacted natives in the Indian Ocean. He brought brought with him gifts of a football and some fish.How we laughed. But then somebody asked: what would be the perfect gift?
They have nothing? According to who?
According to me. They have none of the artifacts of modern civilisation obviously, but I have a thing about short and snappy thread titles, so I had to use some licence in making the title.
sibeen said:
dv said:
party_pants said:
from chat discussion about the American missionary who was killed by those uncontacted natives in the Indian Ocean. He brought brought with him gifts of a football and some fish.How we laughed. But then somebody asked: what would be the perfect gift?
Staying the fuck away.
OK, the fish I can sort of understand, but I doubt these poor benighted individuals have ever seen a game of Aussie Rules.
Well, items from the middle aisle of Aldi wouldn’t be able to compete with Aussie Rules for confusion-factor.
party_pants said:
kii said:
party_pants said:
from chat discussion about the American missionary who was killed by those uncontacted natives in the Indian Ocean. He brought brought with him gifts of a football and some fish.How we laughed. But then somebody asked: what would be the perfect gift?
They have nothing? According to who?
According to me. They have none of the artifacts of modern civilisation obviously, but I have a thing about short and snappy thread titles, so I had to use some licence in making the title.
I’ve actually got a book here, titled; How to Live on Nothing. The author does point out that anomaly in the opening words but yeah.
captain_spalding said:
sibeen said:
dv said:Staying the fuck away.
OK, the fish I can sort of understand, but I doubt these poor benighted individuals have ever seen a game of Aussie Rules.
Well, items from the middle aisle of Aldi wouldn’t be able to compete with Aussie Rules for confusion-factor.
I recal an educated American saying, “WTF! He’s walking up that other man’s back!”
Reading the BBC article. It was a soccer ball.
Also, he was not a missionary, but an adventurer and self-styled explorer. He professed to be a Christian but he was not out there to spread the word of God. So he falls neatly into the pigeon-hole marked “dickhead”.
party_pants said:
Reading the BBC article. It was a soccer ball.Also, he was not a missionary, but an adventurer and self-styled explorer. He professed to be a Christian but he was not out there to spread the word of God. So he falls neatly into the pigeon-hole marked “dickhead”.
He did take a Bible with him on an earlier visit, into which someone shot an arrow. A neat summation of their theological position, that.
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:
kii said:They have nothing? According to who?
According to me. They have none of the artifacts of modern civilisation obviously, but I have a thing about short and snappy thread titles, so I had to use some licence in making the title.
I’ve actually got a book here, titled; How to Live on Nothing. The author does point out that anomaly in the opening words but yeah.
It is probably not possible. In order to survive you’d need to learn skills. The act of reading books or watching Youtubes to learn the knowledge and start getting a bit of practice with them before you’re ready to venture out on your self-sufficient lonesome is of itself an exercise is using the artifacts and collective wisdom of generations of modern civilisation.
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:According to me. They have none of the artifacts of modern civilisation obviously, but I have a thing about short and snappy thread titles, so I had to use some licence in making the title.
I’ve actually got a book here, titled; How to Live on Nothing. The author does point out that anomaly in the opening words but yeah.
It is probably not possible. In order to survive you’d need to learn skills. The act of reading books or watching Youtubes to learn the knowledge and start getting a bit of practice with them before you’re ready to venture out on your self-sufficient lonesome is of itself an exercise is using the artifacts and collective wisdom of generations of modern civilisation.
This book was about eating weeds.
party_pants said:
Reading the BBC article. It was a soccer ball.Also, he was not a missionary, but an adventurer and self-styled explorer. He professed to be a Christian but he was not out there to spread the word of God. So he falls neatly into the pigeon-hole marked “dickhead”.
I beg to differ:
>>He went on to graduate from Oral Roberts University, a Christian college in Oklahoma, in 2014, with a degree in health and exercise science.
While there, he worked with the university’s missions and outreach department.<<
I doubt he could help himself. I mean…Oral Roberts University?
From the ABC report:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-22/american-missionary-killed-in-india/10546166
buffy said:
party_pants said:
Reading the BBC article. It was a soccer ball.Also, he was not a missionary, but an adventurer and self-styled explorer. He professed to be a Christian but he was not out there to spread the word of God. So he falls neatly into the pigeon-hole marked “dickhead”.
I beg to differ:
>>He went on to graduate from Oral Roberts University, a Christian college in Oklahoma, in 2014, with a degree in health and exercise science.
While there, he worked with the university’s missions and outreach department.<<
I doubt he could help himself. I mean…Oral Roberts University?
From the ABC report:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-22/american-missionary-killed-in-india/10546166
Anyway, he’s gone to God now.
dv said:
party_pants said:
from chat discussion about the American missionary who was killed by those uncontacted natives in the Indian Ocean. He brought brought with him gifts of a football and some fish.How we laughed. But then somebody asked: what would be the perfect gift?
Staying the fuck away.
Unrealistic.
They need a great big wall.
I probably shouldn’t laugh…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-23/jewellery-store-employees-fight-robbers-off-with-swords/10550010
buffy said:
party_pants said:
Reading the BBC article. It was a soccer ball.Also, he was not a missionary, but an adventurer and self-styled explorer. He professed to be a Christian but he was not out there to spread the word of God. So he falls neatly into the pigeon-hole marked “dickhead”.
I beg to differ:
>>He went on to graduate from Oral Roberts University, a Christian college in Oklahoma, in 2014, with a degree in health and exercise science.
While there, he worked with the university’s missions and outreach department.<<
I doubt he could help himself. I mean…Oral Roberts University?
From the ABC report:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-22/american-missionary-killed-in-india/10546166
I read this one: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46293221
seems he was a god-botherer, but not really a missionary as such in the strict definition. If he was then he was acting on his own initiative and not part of an organised missionary group.
Oh, sorry.
But strangely slightly relevent.
buffy said:
Oh, sorry.
But strangely slightly relevent.
Just try and be a little bit more careful in future.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:Oh, sorry.
But strangely slightly relevent.
Just try and be a little bit more careful in future.
yes, should have gone to specsavers.
JudgeMental said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:Oh, sorry.
But strangely slightly relevent.
Just try and be a little bit more careful in future.
yes, should have gone to specsavers.
And become someone’s conversion statistic? (Conversion = do optometric exam, convert to sale of spectacles. They set targets, despite denying it)
buffy said:
JudgeMental said:
Peak Warming Man said:Just try and be a little bit more careful in future.
yes, should have gone to specsavers.
And become someone’s conversion statistic? (Conversion = do optometric exam, convert to sale of spectacles. They set targets, despite denying it)
yes. resistance is futile.
party_pants said:
from chat discussion about the American missionary who was killed by those uncontacted natives in the Indian Ocean. He brought brought with him gifts of a football and some fish.How we laughed. But then somebody asked: what would be the perfect gift?
If you wish to avoid narcotics and objects like glass and iron that can be made into weapons, then food is always an acceptable gift. Cooked pizza and lasagne for example. Or baklava and cheesecake.
May I also suggest a pig. The wild tribes of New Guinea used to value pigs above women.
(Lisa) “I’m going to become a vegetarian”
(Homer) “Does that mean you’re not going to eat any pork?” “Yes” “Bacon?” “Yes Dad” Ham?” “Dad all those meats come from the same animal” “Right Lisa, some wonderful, magical animal!”.
Women may also be an acceptable gift.
A mirror.
PermeateFree said:
A mirror.
That’s an interesting suggestion.
mollwollfumble said:
Women may also be an acceptable gift.
Do you think that you could persuade my wife of that?
a MAGA hat.
mollwollfumble said:
Women may also be an acceptable gift.
that would be rather unacceptable from our perspective.
captain_spalding said:
mollwollfumble said:Women may also be an acceptable gift.
Do you think that you could persuade my wife of that?
I mean, i don’t want to give Mrs S to the Sentinelese, but she keeps asking me what do i want for Christmas…
captain_spalding said:
mollwollfumble said:Women may also be an acceptable gift.
Do you think that you could persuade my wife of that?
What? Seems harsh.
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
mollwollfumble said:Women may also be an acceptable gift.
Do you think that you could persuade my wife of that?
I mean, i don’t want to give Mrs S to the Sentinelese, but she keeps asking me what do i want for Christmas…
Ah, I geddit now…
Michael V said:
PermeateFree said:
A mirror.
That’s an interesting suggestion.
In one TV program I saw ages ago, an anthropologist showed a mirror to a tribe that had never seen one before. At first they had no idea what it was, until one person recognised another in the mirror. Then they crowded around for a while.
I have been and received my votive democracy sausage.
sibeen said:
I have been and received my votive democracy sausage.
Remember to write the name of your candidate on the sausage and place it in the appropriate bun
bugger
This person didn’t even take any photographs or recordings so that anthropologists could learn something from his encounter.
sibeen said:
I have been and received my votive democracy sausage.
The perfect gift for someone who has nothing.
dv said:
This person didn’t even take any photographs or recordings so that anthropologists could learn something from his encounter.
I wonder how different their spoken language is to those on nearby islands.
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
This person didn’t even take any photographs or recordings so that anthropologists could learn something from his encounter.
I wonder how different their spoken language is to those on nearby islands.
Completely separate language, apparently.
An expedition led by Maurice Vidal Portman, a government administrator who hoped to research the natives and their customs, accomplished a successful landing on North Sentinel Island in January 1880. The group found a network of pathways and several small, abandoned villages. After several days, six Sentinelese, an elderly couple and four children, were captured and taken to Port Blair. The colonial officer in charge of the operation wrote that the entire group, “sickened rapidly, and the old man and his wife died, so the four children were sent back to their home with quantities of presents”.
All six sickened rapidly, two died, and they returned the remaining four children. Lord knows what they died of, could have been anything, but given these stats, it is a reasonable guess that the North Sentinelese suffered a medical holocaust because of this encounter.
In this context, killing trespassers could be considered self-defence.
give them a university education to enslave them
handy tip
wear an iron man suit next time
wookiemeister said:
give them a university education to enslave them
:)
A HECS debt. Bet they don’t have one of those.
sarahs mum said:
wookiemeister said:
give them a university education to enslave them
:)
A HECS debt. Bet they don’t have one of those.
the gov would make all that money back by income taxes alone in the first 5 years
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wookiemeister said:
sarahs mum said:
wookiemeister said:
give them a university education to enslave them
:)
A HECS debt. Bet they don’t have one of those.
university should be FREEthe gov would make all that money back by income taxes alone in the first 5 years
I agree. (Even though the govt have not got anything out of my uni attendance..And they don’t even like Master’s and PhD topics that include words like diaspora and multiculturalism anymore.)
sarahs mum said:
wookiemeister said:
sarahs mum said::)
A HECS debt. Bet they don’t have one of those.
university should be FREEthe gov would make all that money back by income taxes alone in the first 5 years
I agree. (Even though the govt have not got anything out of my uni attendance..And they don’t even like Master’s and PhD topics that include words like diaspora and multiculturalism anymore.)
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party_pants said:
I don’t think these wifi modems are a good gift. I doubt if the natives get good signal out on their island.
Maybe some mini mp3 players
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Tau.Neutrino said:
party_pants said:
I don’t think these wifi modems are a good gift. I doubt if the natives get good signal out on their island.
Maybe some mini mp3 players
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Maybe stage a rock concert. Get a cover band playing some AC/DC, Back in Black with all the amps turned up to 11 and the full smoke, fireworks and laser light show.
That’ll fuck ‘em!
Find a way to teach them religion and politics.
That’ll really fuck ‘em.
a compound bow.
a gift certificate.
sarahs mum said:
wookiemeister said:
give them a university education to enslave them
:)
A HECS debt. Bet they don’t have one of those.
S’OK, you only pay them back once you earn more than $48k. ArtsDegreesForEveryone!
mollwollfumble said:
party_pants said:
from chat discussion about the American missionary who was killed by those uncontacted natives in the Indian Ocean. He brought brought with him gifts of a football and some fish.How we laughed. But then somebody asked: what would be the perfect gift?
If you wish to avoid narcotics and objects like glass and iron that can be made into weapons, then food is always an acceptable gift. Cooked pizza and lasagne for example. Or baklava and cheesecake.
May I also suggest a pig. The wild tribes of New Guinea used to value pigs above women.
(Lisa) “I’m going to become a vegetarian”
(Homer) “Does that mean you’re not going to eat any pork?” “Yes” “Bacon?” “Yes Dad” Ham?” “Dad all those meats come from the same animal” “Right Lisa, some wonderful, magical animal!”.Women may also be an acceptable gift.
I was told by an aboriginal historian that steel axes were worth at least two wives and as such arrived downstream before the white men who brought them.
the communist manifesto
karl marx
i used to use it to get to sleep
wookiemeister said:
the communist manifestokarl marx
i used to use it to get to sleep
Which is ironic, because it was intended to achieve the opposite.
Tau.Neutrino said:
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Not such a crazy idea. I noticed when visiting the West Indies about 20 years ago that nearly everyone there had two mobile phones, one for each network, at a time when in Australia only about 10% of people had mobile phone. This despite the fact that most people there were desperately poor. Part of the reason was that over there the landline network was virtually nonexistent, so anyone who wanted a phone had to go mobile.
In Africa, some white people had the idea of the “hole in the wall” in the poorest parts of cities. Where a computer was placed for public access, no instructions, in a hole in a wall. A possible result was the “Nigerian scam”.
Going back a bit in time. The most prized possession of one deliberately primitive tribe was a solar powered TV set. The battery would solar charge during the day, enough for two or three hours of watching the TV after sunset.
In the poorest parts of Russia, one taxi driver had developed a system of taking the car battery out each night and using it to power the lights and TV at home.
Further back in time, a visit to the Dayaks in Borneo, the people begged the white traveller for batteries to run their one and only radio to play dance music.
mollwollfumble said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
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or this one
R320 Series WIFI LTE Car 4g Router with Sim Card Slot and External SMA Antenna
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/R320-Series-WIFI-LTE-Car-4g-Router-with-Sim-Card-Slot-and-External-SMA-Antenna/273493258015?epid=7011750183&hash=item3fad77ef1f:g:HmgAAOSwpvZaJfQj
or this one
TIANJIE CPE903 3G 4G LTE wifi router WAN/LAN Port Dual external antennas
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TIANJIE-CPE903-3G-4G-LTE-wifi-router-WAN-LAN-Port-Dual-external-antennas/292813588913?hash=item442d0cc9b1:m:mH-PvG2cjw-ynvYzlkR8KGQ
or this one
TP-Link Archer MR400 AC1350 1350Mbps Dual Band Smart WiFi Wireless Router 4G LTE
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TP-Link-Archer-MR400-AC1350-1350Mbps-Dual-Band-Smart-WiFi-Wireless-Router-4G-LTE/332576834945?epid=5013934343&hash=item4d6f1fc581:g:5ZsAAOSwC11ZvzbP
Not such a crazy idea. I noticed when visiting the West Indies about 20 years ago that nearly everyone there had two mobile phones, one for each network, at a time when in Australia only about 10% of people had mobile phone. This despite the fact that most people there were desperately poor. Part of the reason was that over there the landline network was virtually nonexistent, so anyone who wanted a phone had to go mobile.
In Africa, some white people had the idea of the “hole in the wall” in the poorest parts of cities. Where a computer was placed for public access, no instructions, in a hole in a wall. A possible result was the “Nigerian scam”.
Going back a bit in time. The most prized possession of one deliberately primitive tribe was a solar powered TV set. The battery would solar charge during the day, enough for two or three hours of watching the TV after sunset.
In the poorest parts of Russia, one taxi driver had developed a system of taking the car battery out each night and using it to power the lights and TV at home.
Further back in time, a visit to the Dayaks in Borneo, the people begged the white traveller for batteries to run their one and only radio to play dance music.
Note the wrist watch and cigarettes. Modern Dayaks.
Video of Dayaks from 1912. Note the mens clothing, and the skirts for women. They have a loom. Metalwork includes heavy hoop earrings and a gong. They have tobacco in a homemade pipe. This is an agricultural society with pounding and winnowing grain for bread.
roughbarked said:
I’ve actually got a book here, titled; How to Live on Nothing. The author does point out that anomaly in the opening words but yeah
I
This book was about eating weeds.
Euell Gibbons: Stalking the Wild Asparagus
party_pants said:
from chat discussion about the American missionary who was killed by those uncontacted natives in the Indian Ocean. He brought brought with him gifts of a football and some fish.How we laughed. But then somebody asked: what would be the perfect gift?
SHOES!!! :-D
Excerpt from Cabbages And Kings – chapter 12
by O’Henry
I am stating a truism when I say that in merchandizing the consumer is king If he does not exist you are out of business if there are few of him your sales will be insignificant if his name is legion your sales will be multitudinous A few days ago I greatly enjoyed re reading a story by O Henry which illustrated the principle that without buyers merchandising is impossible It is a story of a semi barbarous community in a semi barbarous country which was practically all an arid waste of sand An American was induced as a joke to ship down a $4,000 stock of shoes this in spite of the fact that absolutely no one in the vicinity except the American consul and one or two of his friends had ever worn a pair of shoes or was likely ever to want to wear a pair Absolute ruin faced the American One of his friends however came to the rescue and created a demand He did it by shipping in hundreds of pounds of harsh well ripened sharp spurred cockle burrs which each night were industriously and repeatedly sown in the sand along paths over which the barefoot natives were forced to travel the next morning It is needless to say that shrieks of pain arose when the natives trod on the spurs of the burrs The next night the process was repeated and the story was circulated that the burrs were an insect pest that had come to stay On about the third morning the barefoot natives could stand it no longer and rushed to the shoestore to protect their suffering feet A demand for shoes was created buyers became plenty commercial ruin was averted and the merchant prospered
party_pants said:
from chat discussion about the American missionary who was killed by those uncontacted natives in the Indian Ocean. He brought brought with him gifts of a football and some fish.How we laughed. But then somebody asked: what would be the perfect gift?
Should have bought with him alcohol, cannabis, opium, smart watches, mini mp3 players, white women and lots of food.
Tau.Neutrino said:
party_pants said:
from chat discussion about the American missionary who was killed by those uncontacted natives in the Indian Ocean. He brought brought with him gifts of a football and some fish.How we laughed. But then somebody asked: what would be the perfect gift?
Should have bought with him alcohol, cannabis, opium, smart watches, mini mp3 players, white women and lots of food.
Should have bought with him alcohol, cannabis, opium, cocaine, smart watches, mini mp3 players, women and lots of food.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
party_pants said:
from chat discussion about the American missionary who was killed by those uncontacted natives in the Indian Ocean. He brought brought with him gifts of a football and some fish.How we laughed. But then somebody asked: what would be the perfect gift?
Should have bought with him alcohol, cannabis, opium, smart watches, mini mp3 players, white women and lots of food.
Should have bought with him alcohol, cannabis, opium, cocaine, smart watches, mini mp3 players, women and lots of food.
What’s wrong with tobacco?
mollwollfumble said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Should have bought with him alcohol, cannabis, opium, smart watches, mini mp3 players, white women and lots of food.
Should have bought with him alcohol, cannabis, opium, cocaine, smart watches, mini mp3 players, women and lots of food.
What’s wrong with tobacco?
That too I guess.
Some jewellery.
A yacht and a few 4W drives
Some sand buggies and some jet skies.
The missionary didn’t think things through properly did he?
Tau.Neutrino said:
Some sand buggies and some jet skies.The missionary didn’t think things through properly did he?
Are the jet skies so the powers that be can chem-trail them?
Michael V said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Some sand buggies and some jet skies.The missionary didn’t think things through properly did he?
Are the jet skies so the powers that be can chem-trail them?
I wonder what social equation the missionary was thinking about?
Was it God, Football and Food, where Football = Fun, well that proved to be a fail.
The alpha males would probably have liked drugs (fun) Sand buggies and jet skies (Fun) yacht and 4WDs (fun).
The equation should have been Fun and Resources with no religion or behavior questioning.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Michael V said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Some sand buggies and some jet skies.The missionary didn’t think things through properly did he?
Are the jet skies so the powers that be can chem-trail them?
I wonder what social equation the missionary was thinking about?
Was it God, Football and Food, where Football = Fun, well that proved to be a fail.
The alpha males would probably have liked drugs (fun) Sand buggies and jet skies (Fun) yacht and 4WDs (fun).
The equation should have been Fun and Resources with no religion or behavior questioning.
With jewellery, mini mp3 players and smart watches for the tribal leaders.
He may have handed the football to the wrong person. Who knows?
He may have had mot enough fish.?
They may have seen the football and God as Western culture?
Maybe the leaders just didn’t like him.?
Tau.Neutrino said:
mollwollfumble said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Should have bought with him alcohol, cannabis, opium, cocaine, smart watches, mini mp3 players, women and lots of food.
What’s wrong with tobacco?
That too I guess.
Some jewellery.
A yacht and a few 4W drives
Jewellery is always good for bronze age tribes. See the Dayaks for instance, and Amerindians. Not so useful for stone age tribes, where it’s the men who wear the jewellery.
You could build a vast house on a pontoon…moor it off the beach.
sarahs mum said:
You could build a vast house on a pontoon…moor it off the beach.
Yeah, just turn up in a big yacht (if you have one) and anchor offshore.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
You could build a vast house on a pontoon…moor it off the beach.
Yeah, just turn up in a big yacht (if you have one) and anchor offshore.
I was thinking more of delivering them a party house.
A glass bottle remember the movie The Gods Must Be Crazy, that started a tribal fight I think though, so perhaps nothing and leave them alone
The only semi-successful contact with the Sentinelese was an offering of coconuts. Some of the tribe approached a boat in shallow water and accepted coconuts without aggression. Coconuts do not grow on their island and are apparently prized. Subsequent attempts to repeat this contact have failed.
So maybe a machine that produces cinnamon coconut latte’s might be the best Xmas pressie.