Summer has appeared from over the horizon.
Summer has appeared from over the horizon.
Morning punters and correctors, nothing of any great moment to report.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters and correctors, nothing of any great moment to report.
Not much happening here either.
13.3°C
Feels like 13.3°C
Dew Point
8.0°C
Gusts
0km/h
Relative Humidity
70%
Pressure
1011.8hPa
Wind
Calm
Rainfall
0.0mm
Heading for 22 this end, then tomorrow a more temperate 17, with 16 on Monday. But we’re set to suffer a searing 26 next Thursday & Friday.
Bubblecar said:
Heading for 22 this end, then tomorrow a more temperate 17, with 16 on Monday. But we’re set to suffer a searing 26 next Thursday & Friday.
Will be getting above 35 here by Thursday.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Heading for 22 this end, then tomorrow a more temperate 17, with 16 on Monday. But we’re set to suffer a searing 26 next Thursday & Friday.
Will be getting above 35 here by Thursday.
Insanity.
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Heading for 22 this end, then tomorrow a more temperate 17, with 16 on Monday. But we’re set to suffer a searing 26 next Thursday & Friday.
Will be getting above 35 here by Thursday.
Insanity.
I’ve been meaning to leave this place for years.
Good morning everyone.
Very warm and very humid (again). 23.6°C, 87% RH, 3/8 cloud (low and building rapidly) and calm. Some fire haze to the north. ORB = 0. BoM predicts 30°C, up from 18.2°C, with little to no chance of rain.
I have a long list of tasks that I won’t complete today. I won’t bore you with them.
Morning.
Heading for a sunny top of 31 today, no chance of rain.
Had some strange dreams. One where I was paying $200 to dye my hair; one where I was travelling with my mum, her cousin and her cousin’s son; and one where I was playing touch football.
Just had a knock on the door. Mr Mutant was expecting his new computer monitor to be delivered Monday. I was unaware that they delivered at 7.30am on Saturday mornings, but then again, it’s december.
Divine Angel said:
Morning.Heading for a sunny top of 31 today, no chance of rain.
Had some strange dreams. One where I was paying $200 to dye my hair; one where I was travelling with my mum, her cousin and her cousin’s son; and one where I was playing touch football.
Just had a knock on the door. Mr Mutant was expecting his new computer monitor to be delivered Monday. I was unaware that they delivered at 7.30am on Saturday mornings, but then again, it’s december.
Amazing.
Actually had an ABS person knock on my door and want to do an interview to collect information for a survey.
roughbarked said:
Actually had an ABS person knock on my door and want to do an interview to collect information for a survey.
Yeah I hate being interrupted to talk about my car’s brakes :p
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
Actually had an ABS person knock on my door and want to do an interview to collect information for a survey.
Yeah I hate being interrupted to talk about my car’s brakes :p
:)
I saw what you did there.
Australian Bureau of Statistics.
roughbarked said:
Actually had an ABS person knock on my door and want to do an interview to collect information for a survey.
Really? A gov’t person? Working on a Saturday?
Sure it wasn’t one of the private survey companies?
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Actually had an ABS person knock on my door and want to do an interview to collect information for a survey.
Really? A gov’t person? Working on a Saturday?
Sure it wasn’t one of the private survey companies?
It wasn’t today. She set up an appointment for nest week.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Actually had an ABS person knock on my door and want to do an interview to collect information for a survey.
Really? A gov’t person? Working on a Saturday?
Sure it wasn’t one of the private survey companies?
It wasn’t today. She set up an appointment for nest week.
Probably a private company, they’ll just want to know how many people in the house, number of pets, banking details, stuff like that.
Peak Warming Man said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:Really? A gov’t person? Working on a Saturday?
Sure it wasn’t one of the private survey companies?
It wasn’t today. She set up an appointment for nest week.
Probably a private company, they’ll just want to know how many people in the house, number of pets, banking details, stuff like that.
I guess so.

Fancy some Saturday sweeties so I’m off to buy some sweeties, probably jersey caramels or suchlike.
Bubblecar said:
Fancy some Saturday sweeties so I’m off to buy some sweeties, probably jersey caramels or suchlike.
You’re living too close to the shops now.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters and correctors, nothing of any great moment to report.
updates ships log
Bogsnorkler said:
bit arsh.
We’re going on the Gympie Rattler today. An old steam train, but I think there’s a total fire ban so they’ll use the Diesel engine instead.
Good morning Holidayers. I have done my outside work. Well the heaviest bits of it. It is now a bit warm and a bit windy out there for me.
I thought the gusts were getting up….now wind around 30, gusts into the 50s. This is going to be a drying day. There is a forecast for some rain later. I might put the low use sprinkler on in the shade for the birds now though.
Divine Angel said:
We’re going on the Gympie Rattler today. An old steam train, but I think there’s a total fire ban so they’ll use the Diesel engine instead.
:)
Divine Angel said:
We’re going on the Gympie Rattler today. An old steam train, but I think there’s a total fire ban so they’ll use the Diesel engine instead.
Cool. Let us know how it is. Should I go and also take the grandkids?
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
We’re going on the Gympie Rattler today. An old steam train, but I think there’s a total fire ban so they’ll use the Diesel engine instead.
Cool. Let us know how it is. Should I go and also take the grandkids?
Oh, and I should mention that last time I drove up the Mary Valley Way, they were doing extensive trackworks.
Bubblecar said:
Fancy some Saturday sweeties so I’m off to buy some sweeties, probably jersey caramels or suchlike.
Hmm, and there is another word never used in my family. Sweeties. We eat lollies. Well those of us who eat them eat lollies. Personally I eat chocolate.
Might get up the energy shortly to dress the front window for Christmas. I spent some time last night when I should have been sleeping planning what to do. I think a simple Christmas tree might be the go this year.
No correlation.
Prices of new washing machines. From local stores.

Lollies in this house.
Bogsnorkler said:
Not funny ha ha. Not funny peculiar. Just sad.

A 36-year-old man was admitted to the intensive care unit with an acute exacerbation of chronic heart failure. His medical history included heart failure with an ejection fraction of 20%, bioprosthetic aortic-valve replacement for bicuspid aortic stenosis, endovascular stenting of an aortic aneurysm, and placement of a permanent pacemaker for complete heart block. An Impella ventricular assist device was placed for management of acute heart failure, and a continuous heparin infusion was initiated for systemic anticoagulation. During the next week, the patient had episodes of small-volume hemoptysis, increasing respiratory distress, and increasing use of supplemental oxygen (up to 20 liters delivered through a high-flow nasal cannula). During an extreme bout of coughing, the patient spontaneously expectorated an intact cast of the right bronchial tree. The right bronchial tree consists of three segmental branches in the upper lobe (blue arrows), two segmental branches in the middle lobe (white arrows), and five segmental branches in the lower lobe (black arrows). The patient’s trachea was subsequently intubated, and flexible bronchoscopy revealed a small amount of blood in the basilar branches of the right lower lobe. The patient was extubated 2 days later and had no further episodes of hemoptysis. One week after extubation, he died from complications of heart failure (volume overload and poor cardiac output) despite placement of the ventricular assist device.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMicm1806493
Lollies. But then I married an American. So Australian fare was lollies but American fare was candy.
sarahs mum said:
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A 36-year-old man was admitted to the intensive care unit with an acute exacerbation of chronic heart failure. His medical history included heart failure with an ejection fraction of 20%, bioprosthetic aortic-valve replacement for bicuspid aortic stenosis, endovascular stenting of an aortic aneurysm, and placement of a permanent pacemaker for complete heart block. An Impella ventricular assist device was placed for management of acute heart failure, and a continuous heparin infusion was initiated for systemic anticoagulation. During the next week, the patient had episodes of small-volume hemoptysis, increasing respiratory distress, and increasing use of supplemental oxygen (up to 20 liters delivered through a high-flow nasal cannula). During an extreme bout of coughing, the patient spontaneously expectorated an intact cast of the right bronchial tree. The right bronchial tree consists of three segmental branches in the upper lobe (blue arrows), two segmental branches in the middle lobe (white arrows), and five segmental branches in the lower lobe (black arrows). The patient’s trachea was subsequently intubated, and flexible bronchoscopy revealed a small amount of blood in the basilar branches of the right lower lobe. The patient was extubated 2 days later and had no further episodes of hemoptysis. One week after extubation, he died from complications of heart failure (volume overload and poor cardiac output) despite placement of the ventricular assist device.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMicm1806493
Blimey.
sweets. same as pud or dessert.
sarahs mum said:
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A 36-year-old man was admitted to the intensive care unit with an acute exacerbation of chronic heart failure. His medical history included heart failure with an ejection fraction of 20%, bioprosthetic aortic-valve replacement for bicuspid aortic stenosis, endovascular stenting of an aortic aneurysm, and placement of a permanent pacemaker for complete heart block. An Impella ventricular assist device was placed for management of acute heart failure, and a continuous heparin infusion was initiated for systemic anticoagulation. During the next week, the patient had episodes of small-volume hemoptysis, increasing respiratory distress, and increasing use of supplemental oxygen (up to 20 liters delivered through a high-flow nasal cannula). During an extreme bout of coughing, the patient spontaneously expectorated an intact cast of the right bronchial tree. The right bronchial tree consists of three segmental branches in the upper lobe (blue arrows), two segmental branches in the middle lobe (white arrows), and five segmental branches in the lower lobe (black arrows). The patient’s trachea was subsequently intubated, and flexible bronchoscopy revealed a small amount of blood in the basilar branches of the right lower lobe. The patient was extubated 2 days later and had no further episodes of hemoptysis. One week after extubation, he died from complications of heart failure (volume overload and poor cardiac output) despite placement of the ventricular assist device.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMicm1806493
How odd.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
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A 36-year-old man was admitted to the intensive care unit with an acute exacerbation of chronic heart failure. His medical history included heart failure with an ejection fraction of 20%, bioprosthetic aortic-valve replacement for bicuspid aortic stenosis, endovascular stenting of an aortic aneurysm, and placement of a permanent pacemaker for complete heart block. An Impella ventricular assist device was placed for management of acute heart failure, and a continuous heparin infusion was initiated for systemic anticoagulation. During the next week, the patient had episodes of small-volume hemoptysis, increasing respiratory distress, and increasing use of supplemental oxygen (up to 20 liters delivered through a high-flow nasal cannula). During an extreme bout of coughing, the patient spontaneously expectorated an intact cast of the right bronchial tree. The right bronchial tree consists of three segmental branches in the upper lobe (blue arrows), two segmental branches in the middle lobe (white arrows), and five segmental branches in the lower lobe (black arrows). The patient’s trachea was subsequently intubated, and flexible bronchoscopy revealed a small amount of blood in the basilar branches of the right lower lobe. The patient was extubated 2 days later and had no further episodes of hemoptysis. One week after extubation, he died from complications of heart failure (volume overload and poor cardiac output) despite placement of the ventricular assist device.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMicm1806493
How odd.
Givess real life to the saying “coughed up a lung”.
thunder monsters rolling in, hopefully it’ll rain up front, might be gusting 30km/h. Fire unit filled up, checked.
this morning, courtesy a mosquito got me up earlier than i’d like…
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:
bit arsh.
i honestly didn’t think of either you or btm when i posted that. just thought the joke was a little “lame”.
transition said:
thunder monsters rolling in, hopefully it’ll rain up front, might be gusting 30km/h. Fire unit filled up, checked.this morning, courtesy a mosquito got me up earlier than i’d like…
:)
I really like the top sort of image. I play with that stuff a lot in my art.
sarahs mum said:
transition said:
thunder monsters rolling in, hopefully it’ll rain up front, might be gusting 30km/h. Fire unit filled up, checked.this morning, courtesy a mosquito got me up earlier than i’d like…
:)
I really like the top sort of image. I play with that stuff a lot in my art.
bet you missed the to birds, probably starlings, on the stone heap
:-)
50047 words. The worst I’ve eever done in NaNo, but in my defence, last month I
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
transition said:
thunder monsters rolling in, hopefully it’ll rain up front, might be gusting 30km/h. Fire unit filled up, checked.this morning, courtesy a mosquito got me up earlier than i’d like…
:)
I really like the top sort of image. I play with that stuff a lot in my art.
bet you missed the to birds, probably starlings, on the stone heap
:-)
I missed the stone heap.
Oh Ms Tingle…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-01/morrison-government-facing-a-threat-from-a-new-direction/10572068
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
transition said:
thunder monsters rolling in, hopefully it’ll rain up front, might be gusting 30km/h. Fire unit filled up, checked.this morning, courtesy a mosquito got me up earlier than i’d like…
:)
I really like the top sort of image. I play with that stuff a lot in my art.
bet you missed the to birds, probably starlings, on the stone heap
:-)
my little joke, while you think anything but birds, please!
always surprises me how many scenery shots have, unintentionally, birds in the background
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:
bit arsh.
i honestly didn’t think of either you or btm when i posted that. just thought the joke was a little “lame”.
How insensitive! Absolutely no consideration for those here that are ‘a little “lame”’.
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
We’re going on the Gympie Rattler today. An old steam train, but I think there’s a total fire ban so they’ll use the Diesel engine instead.
Cool. Let us know how it is. Should I go and also take the grandkids?
Stay tuned.
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
We’re going on the Gympie Rattler today. An old steam train, but I think there’s a total fire ban so they’ll use the Diesel engine instead.
Cool. Let us know how it is. Should I go and also take the grandkids?
Oh, and I should mention that last time I drove up the Mary Valley Way, they were doing extensive trackworks.
Roger that.
btm said:
50047 words. The worst I’ve eever done in NaNo, but in my defence, last month I
- moved to a different city
- started a new job
- finished a course of study
- spent a week in hospital
😊
buffy said:
Oh Ms Tingle…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-01/morrison-government-facing-a-threat-from-a-new-direction/10572068
read that yesterday. poor mr morrison.
:-)
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Fancy some Saturday sweeties so I’m off to buy some sweeties, probably jersey caramels or suchlike.Hmm, and there is another word never used in my family. Sweeties. We eat lollies. Well those of us who eat them eat lollies. Personally I eat chocolate.
In England sweets was the word (or “sweeties” when being infantile) and that’s the word my family has retained. Although funnily enough we had one use of “lollies” which we didn’t find in Australia – ice lollies. In Australia they were called “ice blocks” or suchlike.

Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Fancy some Saturday sweeties so I’m off to buy some sweeties, probably jersey caramels or suchlike.Hmm, and there is another word never used in my family. Sweeties. We eat lollies. Well those of us who eat them eat lollies. Personally I eat chocolate.
In England sweets was the word (or “sweeties” when being infantile) and that’s the word my family has retained. Although funnily enough we had one use of “lollies” which we didn’t find in Australia – ice lollies. In Australia they were called “ice blocks” or suchlike.
Sweets is very English, lollies is wot Aussies say.
When I’m on public transport and I hear a kid say sweets I give them a good dressing down in front of the whole carriage. I use words like Aussie, unAustralian and Gallipoli.
btm said:
50047 words. The worst I’ve eever done in NaNo, but in my defence, last month I
- moved to a different city
- started a new job
- finished a course of study
- spent a week in hospital
Bloody good effort, I reckon.
Michael V said:
btm said:
50047 words. The worst I’ve eever done in NaNo, but in my defence, last month I
- moved to a different city
- started a new job
- finished a course of study
- spent a week in hospital
Bloody good effort, I reckon.
DA cheated if I remember correctly, just typed ‘Ks’.
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
Michael V said:Cool. Let us know how it is. Should I go and also take the grandkids?
Oh, and I should mention that last time I drove up the Mary Valley Way, they were doing extensive trackworks.
Roger that.
Should make the journey heaps nicer than it would’ve been.
Worth a repost off facebook. I haven’t heard of birds surfing before.
https://www.facebook.com/NTDTelevisionAU/videos/931851377000744/

Bogsnorkler said:
It’s brilliant. It will do so much for ScoMO’s ratings.
It’s hot here, a few more chores and then a nice cold shower.
sarahs mum said:
Bogsnorkler said:
It’s brilliant. It will do so much for ScoMO’s ratings.
I’m wondering which leader is more embarrassing (apart from Trump), Australia’s gormless Scomo or UK’s useless Theresa May.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bogsnorkler said:
It’s brilliant. It will do so much for ScoMO’s ratings.
I’m wondering which leader is more embarrassing (apart from Trump), Australia’s gormless Scomo or UK’s useless Theresa May.
At least May hasn’t been advertising American beer.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bogsnorkler said:
It’s brilliant. It will do so much for ScoMO’s ratings.
I’m wondering which leader is more embarrassing (apart from Trump), Australia’s gormless Scomo or UK’s useless Theresa May.
So does ScoMo get a meeting with Putin?
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:It’s brilliant. It will do so much for ScoMO’s ratings.
I’m wondering which leader is more embarrassing (apart from Trump), Australia’s gormless Scomo or UK’s useless Theresa May.
So does ScoMo get a meeting with Putin?
Let’s hope not.
Really we need this mob to lose around 40 or more seats at the next election. There’s no sensible place for them in Australia’s future.
mollwollfumble said:
Worth a repost off facebook. I haven’t heard of birds surfing before.https://www.facebook.com/NTDTelevisionAU/videos/931851377000744/
WOW!
Seriously: WOW!
Thanks you for re-posting that.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:It’s brilliant. It will do so much for ScoMO’s ratings.
I’m wondering which leader is more embarrassing (apart from Trump), Australia’s gormless Scomo or UK’s useless Theresa May.
So does ScoMo get a meeting with Putin?
He hasn’t got a $50M penthouse in an old city to give away.
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:I’m wondering which leader is more embarrassing (apart from Trump), Australia’s gormless Scomo or UK’s useless Theresa May.
So does ScoMo get a meeting with Putin?
Let’s hope not.
Really we need this mob to lose around 40 or more seats at the next election. There’s no sensible place for them in Australia’s future.
No, it would be piss-funny if they had a meeting and ScoMo tried to give him a dressing down.
Finished the last gobful of wine and am pleasantly mellow.
Another fortnight of wagon kicks in, in which the present painting will be finished and more music will be composed and recorded.
The various toy trains and track that have been ordered will arrive and I’ll try out the minimum effective radius of the locomotives. And then finalise the layout plans, and order the baseboard woods.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:So does ScoMo get a meeting with Putin?
Let’s hope not.
Really we need this mob to lose around 40 or more seats at the next election. There’s no sensible place for them in Australia’s future.
No, it would be piss-funny if they had a meeting and ScoMo tried to give him a dressing down.
He could present him with one of Tony’s shirt fronts.
Michael V said:
mollwollfumble said:
Worth a repost off facebook. I haven’t heard of birds surfing before.https://www.facebook.com/NTDTelevisionAU/videos/931851377000744/
WOW!
Seriously: WOW!
Thanks you for re-posting that.
:)
It could get ugly for the surfers in Kirra..
mollwollfumble said:
Worth a repost off facebook. I haven’t heard of birds surfing before.https://www.facebook.com/NTDTelevisionAU/videos/931851377000744/
That’s brilliant, shame about the ‘giant surf’ caption.
Ian said:
Michael V said:
mollwollfumble said:
Worth a repost off facebook. I haven’t heard of birds surfing before.https://www.facebook.com/NTDTelevisionAU/videos/931851377000744/
WOW!
Seriously: WOW!
Thanks you for re-posting that.
:)
It could get ugly for the surfers in Kirra..
Yes, they displayed no “dropping-in” etiquette.
Bubblecar said:
Finished the last gobful of wine and am pleasantly mellow.Another fortnight of wagon kicks in, in which the present painting will be finished and more music will be composed and recorded.
The various toy trains and track that have been ordered will arrive and I’ll try out the minimum effective radius of the locomotives. And then finalise the layout plans, and order the baseboard woods.
You’re a lucky bastard indeed so it’s a wonder why your demeanour is so often tragic. Nothing to do with your time except create art and music and play with toys and go for walks in the countryside.
You really ought to smile a lot more than you normally do.
:)
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Finished the last gobful of wine and am pleasantly mellow.Another fortnight of wagon kicks in, in which the present painting will be finished and more music will be composed and recorded.
The various toy trains and track that have been ordered will arrive and I’ll try out the minimum effective radius of the locomotives. And then finalise the layout plans, and order the baseboard woods.
You’re a lucky bastard indeed so it’s a wonder why your demeanour is so often tragic. Nothing to do with your time except create art and music and play with toys and go for walks in the countryside.
You really ought to smile a lot more than you normally do.
:)
And then I watch some swans surfing and think back on times when I smiled and was a bit happy. And then I remember being dumped. And caught in a rip. And thinking I was going die. And then being saved.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Finished the last gobful of wine and am pleasantly mellow.Another fortnight of wagon kicks in, in which the present painting will be finished and more music will be composed and recorded.
The various toy trains and track that have been ordered will arrive and I’ll try out the minimum effective radius of the locomotives. And then finalise the layout plans, and order the baseboard woods.
You’re a lucky bastard indeed so it’s a wonder why your demeanour is so often tragic. Nothing to do with your time except create art and music and play with toys and go for walks in the countryside.
You really ought to smile a lot more than you normally do.
:)
But you need to get out more, walking the hills and dales with the sun on your back and a cooling breeze in your face and with a knapsack on your back.
And while buffy cleans the big window and faffs about with tinsel and Christmas tree….I choose to sleep on the gentleman’s chair in the other room.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Finished the last gobful of wine and am pleasantly mellow.Another fortnight of wagon kicks in, in which the present painting will be finished and more music will be composed and recorded.
The various toy trains and track that have been ordered will arrive and I’ll try out the minimum effective radius of the locomotives. And then finalise the layout plans, and order the baseboard woods.
You’re a lucky bastard indeed so it’s a wonder why your demeanour is so often tragic. Nothing to do with your time except create art and music and play with toys and go for walks in the countryside.
You really ought to smile a lot more than you normally do.
:)
And then I watch some swans surfing and think back on times when I smiled and was a bit happy. And then I remember being dumped. And caught in a rip. And thinking I was going die. And then being saved.
It’s certainly a strange mixture. In theory I should be a free and cheery spirit but I’m often feeling as though I ought to work out the practicalities of leaving.
But I’m happy with this little painting. And looking forward to the next one which will be more colourful.
And the teddy sits in the rocking chair watching.
And the Big Balls are up. I’d better go and find the tree and see how it goes for height.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:You’re a lucky bastard indeed so it’s a wonder why your demeanour is so often tragic. Nothing to do with your time except create art and music and play with toys and go for walks in the countryside.
You really ought to smile a lot more than you normally do.
:)
And then I watch some swans surfing and think back on times when I smiled and was a bit happy. And then I remember being dumped. And caught in a rip. And thinking I was going die. And then being saved.
It’s certainly a strange mixture. In theory I should be a free and cheery spirit but I’m often feeling as though I ought to work out the practicalities of leaving.
But I’m happy with this little painting. And looking forward to the next one which will be more colourful.
I was lucky that day that I was swimming with two lifesavers. The whole family was caught in a rip. My brother and sister were strong swimmers, bronze medallion types and they managed to get to shore. Dad was a good swimmer but needed a rescue. I was treading water and had resolved to try to get off the rip at the next beach. But Peter swam out to get me. It took a long time to get back to shore.
I etched a bit on my coos last night. I’ll give them a print later and put another coat of bitumen on them tonight. Tomorrow I have a small etching workshop. Maybe they will get another then.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:And then I watch some swans surfing and think back on times when I smiled and was a bit happy. And then I remember being dumped. And caught in a rip. And thinking I was going die. And then being saved.
It’s certainly a strange mixture. In theory I should be a free and cheery spirit but I’m often feeling as though I ought to work out the practicalities of leaving.
But I’m happy with this little painting. And looking forward to the next one which will be more colourful.
I was lucky that day that I was swimming with two lifesavers. The whole family was caught in a rip. My brother and sister were strong swimmers, bronze medallion types and they managed to get to shore. Dad was a good swimmer but needed a rescue. I was treading water and had resolved to try to get off the rip at the next beach. But Peter swam out to get me. It took a long time to get back to shore.
I etched a bit on my coos last night. I’ll give them a print later and put another coat of bitumen on them tonight. Tomorrow I have a small etching workshop. Maybe they will get another then.
another etching then.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:And then I watch some swans surfing and think back on times when I smiled and was a bit happy. And then I remember being dumped. And caught in a rip. And thinking I was going die. And then being saved.
It’s certainly a strange mixture. In theory I should be a free and cheery spirit but I’m often feeling as though I ought to work out the practicalities of leaving.
But I’m happy with this little painting. And looking forward to the next one which will be more colourful.
I was lucky that day that I was swimming with two lifesavers. The whole family was caught in a rip. My brother and sister were strong swimmers, bronze medallion types and they managed to get to shore. Dad was a good swimmer but needed a rescue. I was treading water and had resolved to try to get off the rip at the next beach. But Peter swam out to get me. It took a long time to get back to shore.
I etched a bit on my coos last night. I’ll give them a print later and put another coat of bitumen on them tonight. Tomorrow I have a small etching workshop. Maybe they will get another then.
A very dramatic family experience. Nothing like that in my archives. My parents and I were in a violent car crash but although the car was written off we were only superficially injured.
Ex ABC staff form new group to campaign against the Coalition.
They kicked off by handing out anti Coalition how to vote cards at the Wentworth by-election.
https://www.abcalumni.net/
They seem to be just continuing from when they worked at the broadcaster, seamless.
Peak Warming Man said:
Ex ABC staff form new group to campaign against the Coalition.
They kicked off by handing out anti Coalition how to vote cards at the Wentworth by-election.
https://www.abcalumni.net/They seem to be just continuing from when they worked at the broadcaster, seamless.
same old, same old. boring. get a new record.
Peak Warming Man said:
Ex ABC staff form new group to campaign against the Coalition.
They kicked off by handing out anti Coalition how to vote cards at the Wentworth by-election.
https://www.abcalumni.net/They seem to be just continuing from when they worked at the broadcaster, seamless.
And yet I keep on turning off ABC24 in the mornings when some Liberal has called a press conference to say the same stuff.
George H.W. Bush is dead.
dv said:
George H.W. Bush is dead.
Not a bad innings. 94 and out.
Michael V said:
dv said:
George H.W. Bush is dead.
Not a bad innings. 94 and out.
“Mr Bush was awarded an honorary knighthood by the Queen in 1993 “
roughbarked said:
I’m hoping that’s a flower.
Peak Warming Man said:
roughbarked said:
I’m hoping that’s a flower.
it isn’t a flower though it was once part of a flower head. It is the popped top off a leek flower head.
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:
roughbarked said:
I’m hoping that’s a flower.
it isn’t a flower though it was once part of a flower head. It is the popped top off a leek flower head.
roughbarked said:
A wormhole from space?
roughbarked said:
It is! It is a wormhole from space. Where’s the Tardis?
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:
It is! It is a wormhole from space. Where’s the Tardis?
:)
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:
It is! It is a wormhole from space. Where’s the Tardis?
No, no, no! You are confused! It’s “Swirly Thing Alert!! Swirly Thing Alert!!”
buffy said:
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:
It is! It is a wormhole from space. Where’s the Tardis?
No, no, no! You are confused! It’s “Swirly Thing Alert!! Swirly Thing Alert!!”
My baby has gone down the plug’ole.
buffy said:
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:
It is! It is a wormhole from space. Where’s the Tardis?
No, no, no! You are confused! It’s “Swirly Thing Alert!! Swirly Thing Alert!!”
This is not a daffodil. Repeat. This is not a daffodil.
Strange case.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-01/will-the-mystery-of-the-somerton-man-ever-be-solved/10420794
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Woodie said:It is! It is a wormhole from space. Where’s the Tardis?
No, no, no! You are confused! It’s “Swirly Thing Alert!! Swirly Thing Alert!!”
My baby has gone down the plug’ole.
Bubblecar said:
Strange case.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-01/will-the-mystery-of-the-somerton-man-ever-be-solved/10420794
He was a communist spy and was murdered by the same people who murdered Bogle and Chandler.
Bubblecar said:
Strange case.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-01/will-the-mystery-of-the-somerton-man-ever-be-solved/10420794
And while we’re youtubing:
Bubblecar said:
Strange case.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-01/will-the-mystery-of-the-somerton-man-ever-be-solved/10420794
agree.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:No, no, no! You are confused! It’s “Swirly Thing Alert!! Swirly Thing Alert!!”
My baby has gone down the plug’ole.
yep. That’s the one.

The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:
Strange case.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-01/will-the-mystery-of-the-somerton-man-ever-be-solved/10420794
And while we’re youtubing:
Damn I thought it was going to be about a precast post tensioned cambered concrete bridge FEA model video.
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:
Strange case.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-01/will-the-mystery-of-the-somerton-man-ever-be-solved/10420794
And while we’re youtubing:
Damn I thought it was going to be about a precast post tensioned cambered concrete bridge FEA model video.
Still working on it.
“The low is moving south southwest at 13 kilometres per hour and is expected to
deepen further, most likely developing into a tropical cyclone during the next
12 hours.
The system will continue drifting south until Monday afternoon or evening, and
is then expected to turn and move slowly west. It is expected to intensify
further during this time. However, this system poses no immediate threat to the
Queensland coast, and should remain well off the coast until it weakens later
in the week.”
Bugger
Bubblecar said:
Strange case.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-01/will-the-mystery-of-the-somerton-man-ever-be-solved/10420794
It is.
Peak Warming Man said:
“The low is moving south southwest at 13 kilometres per hour and is expected to
deepen further, most likely developing into a tropical cyclone during the next
12 hours.
The system will continue drifting south until Monday afternoon or evening, and
is then expected to turn and move slowly west. It is expected to intensify
further during this time. However, this system poses no immediate threat to the
Queensland coast, and should remain well off the coast until it weakens later
in the week.”Bugger
If we’re lucky, we might get some rain out of it though, and dampen the fires a bit.
Smoked salmon, hard boiled eggs, feta cheese washed down with a tall cool glass of popular cola with a slice of orange.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV08tEMP8qU
Chinese magician performs world’s best magic trick
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV08tEMP8qUChinese magician performs world’s best magic trick
Blood good effort.
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV08tEMP8qUChinese magician performs world’s best magic trick
Blood good effort.
Is he as good as Brendon?
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV08tEMP8qUChinese magician performs world’s best magic trick
I am not as a general rule a fan of card tricks. My normal reaction is “why bother”, they’re usually too small to see anyway.
But this is spectacular, and it’s even better because it doesn’t rely on the values of the cards.
Grass ID.
Native Millet, Fescu, Hairy Panic?
It’s in the back yard in Brisbane.
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV08tEMP8qUChinese magician performs world’s best magic trick
Blood good effort.
Is he as good as Brendon?
I don’t know, because I’ve never seen Brendon perform.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Strange case.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-01/will-the-mystery-of-the-somerton-man-ever-be-solved/10420794
It is.
Clever website layout. I like it.
Peak Warming Man said:
Grass ID.
Native Millet, Fescu, Hairy Panic?
It’s in the back yard in Brisbane.
It doesn’t look like Tall Fescue:
https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0008/166094/p256.pdf
This page describes how to visually distinguish between Native Millet and Hairy Panic, both of which look like what you’ve photographed:
https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/agriculture/pastures-and-rangelands/species-varieties/native-millet
Peak Warming Man said:
Grass ID.
Native Millet, Fescu, Hairy Panic?
It’s in the back yard in Brisbane.
Dunno what it is but a mower or roundup will sort it.
Fermometar says firty nine point free.
Woodie said:
Fermometar says firty nine point free.
Hit it with a hammer.
Peak Warming Man said:
Woodie said:
Fermometar says firty nine point free.
Hit it with a hammer.
STOP
Tap, tap it with a hammer.
Woodie said:
Fermometar says firty nine point free.
They got it wrong. They said it’ll only be 38C at 2pm. Can’t that BOM get anything right?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:And while we’re youtubing:
Damn I thought it was going to be about a precast post tensioned cambered concrete bridge FEA model video.
Still working on it.
I’d like to see it. What FEA software? I used to use ANSYS, but only for thermal and fluids modelling. Precast post tensioned cambered concrete bridges I was only taught to calculate using BOE.
Woodie said:
Woodie said:
Fermometar says firty nine point free.
They got it wrong. They said it’ll only be 38C at 2pm. Can’t that BOM get anything right?
Maybe buy yourself a new thermometer or start looking for the bushfire that’s bearing down on you?
Peak Warming Man said:
Woodie said:
Fermometar says firty nine point free.
Hit it with a hammer.
Should I hammer in the morning? or hammer in the evening?
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:
Woodie said:
Fermometar says firty nine point free.
They got it wrong. They said it’ll only be 38C at 2pm. Can’t that BOM get anything right?
Maybe buy yourself a new thermometer or start looking for the bushfire that’s bearing down on you?
Proberlee 40kms away.
Woodie said:
Woodie said:
Fermometar says firty nine point free.
They got it wrong. They said it’ll only be 38C at 2pm. Can’t that BOM get anything right?
They’re even wronger now.
Woodie said:
Woodie said:
Woodie said:
Fermometar says firty nine point free.
They got it wrong. They said it’ll only be 38C at 2pm. Can’t that BOM get anything right?
They’re even wronger now.
have you tried turning it off then on again?
Just treated myself to a Christmas present.
The CSIRO Australian Bird Guide. By Menkhorst.
Oh dang it. I paid too much for it.
mollwollfumble said:
Just treated myself to a Christmas present.The CSIRO Australian Bird Guide. By Menkhorst.
Oh dang it. I paid too much for it.
Do they have a digital version with their calls in it?
Over.
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Woodie said:
Fermometar says firty nine point free.
Hit it with a hammer.
Should I hammer in the morning? or hammer in the evening?
All over this land.
Peak Warming Man said:
mollwollfumble said:
Just treated myself to a Christmas present.The CSIRO Australian Bird Guide. By Menkhorst.
Oh dang it. I paid too much for it.
Do they have a digital version with their calls in it?
Over.
http://www.graemechapman.com.au/library/index.php
Woodie said:
Fermometar says firty nine point free.
Fermometar here says firty free point five. Electronic hygrometer here says 53% RH.
Woodie said:
Woodie said:
Fermometar says firty nine point free.
They got it wrong. They said it’ll only be 38C at 2pm. Can’t that BOM get anything right?
Bar-stewards.
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Woodie said:
Fermometar says firty nine point free.
Hit it with a hammer.
Should I hammer in the morning? or hammer in the evening?
:)
mollwollfumble said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:Damn I thought it was going to be about a precast post tensioned cambered concrete bridge FEA model video.
Still working on it.
I’d like to see it. What FEA software? I used to use ANSYS, but only for thermal and fluids modelling. Precast post tensioned cambered concrete bridges I was only taught to calculate using BOE.
I use Strand7 and/or my own spreadsheet based frame analysis programs, but I was joking.
I have actually done a fair bit on precast concrete bridge girders recently, but they were pre-tensioned, and a video would be as boring as watching a beam hog.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-09/kristallnacht-survivor-warns-of-antisemitism-white-nationalism/10475828
The Rev Dodgson said:
mollwollfumble said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Still working on it.
I’d like to see it. What FEA software? I used to use ANSYS, but only for thermal and fluids modelling. Precast post tensioned cambered concrete bridges I was only taught to calculate using BOE.
I use Strand7 and/or my own spreadsheet based frame analysis programs, but I was joking.
I have actually done a fair bit on precast concrete bridge girders recently, but they were pre-tensioned, and a video would be as boring as watching a beam hog.
I don’t know what a beam hog is and so this gives me no reference as to its potential boredom quotient.
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
mollwollfumble said:I’d like to see it. What FEA software? I used to use ANSYS, but only for thermal and fluids modelling. Precast post tensioned cambered concrete bridges I was only taught to calculate using BOE.
I use Strand7 and/or my own spreadsheet based frame analysis programs, but I was joking.
I have actually done a fair bit on precast concrete bridge girders recently, but they were pre-tensioned, and a video would be as boring as watching a beam hog.
I don’t know what a beam hog is and so this gives me no reference as to its potential boredom quotient.
Well ya know more than most, Beeny Boy. Most wouldn’t now what a quotient is. But I do. It’s a car made by Toyota. A Toyota Quotient.
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
mollwollfumble said:I’d like to see it. What FEA software? I used to use ANSYS, but only for thermal and fluids modelling. Precast post tensioned cambered concrete bridges I was only taught to calculate using BOE.
I use Strand7 and/or my own spreadsheet based frame analysis programs, but I was joking.
I have actually done a fair bit on precast concrete bridge girders recently, but they were pre-tensioned, and a video would be as boring as watching a beam hog.
I don’t know what a beam hog is and so this gives me no reference as to its potential boredom quotient.
From the bloke who said on Desert Island Disks that he’d take a Wings album and The Concise Oxford Volumes I, II, III and IV of Differential Equations.
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-09/kristallnacht-survivor-warns-of-antisemitism-white-nationalism/10475828
It’s too hot to do anyfink. So I’m gunna annoy you lot.
P’raps I could watch tele instead?
This might cool me off. Ya know, the quality of tele these days really makes it feel like you’re actually there.
Woodie said:
It’s too hot to do anyfink. So I’m gunna annoy you lot.P’raps I could watch tele instead?
This might cool me off. Ya know, the quality of tele these days really makes it feel like you’re actually there.
:)
sibeen said:
I don’t know what a beam hog is
The mid-span of a beam rising by about 50 mm, over the course of several days or weeks.
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
mollwollfumble said:I’d like to see it. What FEA software? I used to use ANSYS, but only for thermal and fluids modelling. Precast post tensioned cambered concrete bridges I was only taught to calculate using BOE.
I use Strand7 and/or my own spreadsheet based frame analysis programs, but I was joking.
I have actually done a fair bit on precast concrete bridge girders recently, but they were pre-tensioned, and a video would be as boring as watching a beam hog.
I don’t know what a beam hog is and so this gives me no reference as to its potential boredom quotient.
a beam hog is a scientist at CERN who always gets to run their experiments and doesn’t want to share.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
I don’t know what a beam hog is
The mid-span of a beam rising by about 50 mm, over the course of several days or weeks.
TIL that hogging is the opposite of sagging.
I had no idea that that term even existed.
Thanks.
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
I don’t know what a beam hog is
The mid-span of a beam rising by about 50 mm, over the course of several days or weeks.
TIL that hogging is the opposite of sagging.
I had no idea that that term even existed.
Thanks.
I have heard of it in terms of ship design.
I SAW HIM I SAW HIM.
SANTA I JUST SAW SANTA.
HE…..HE…..WAS STANDING UP IN A UTE HEADING DOWN TO THE PARK.
Peak Warming Man said:
I SAW HIM I SAW HIM.
SANTA I JUST SAW SANTA.
HE…..HE…..WAS STANDING UP IN A UTE HEADING DOWN TO THE PARK.
I am overjoyed at the mere thought of your good fortune.
Peak Warming Man said:
I SAW HIM I SAW HIM.
SANTA I JUST SAW SANTA.
HE…..HE…..WAS STANDING UP IN A UTE HEADING DOWN TO THE PARK.
going to a fancy dress party next week. thought i’d go as a pirate and to look authentic get my ears pierced for those gold earrings. bloody hell the price! was going to cost me a buck an ear!
Bogsnorkler said:
going to a fancy dress party next week. thought i’d go as a pirate and to look authentic get my ears pierced for those gold earrings. bloody hell the price! was going to cost me a buck an ear!
Sad!
Bogsnorkler said:
going to a fancy dress party next week. thought i’d go as a pirate and to look authentic get my ears pierced for those gold earrings. bloody hell the price! was going to cost me a buck an ear!
Cheap at half the price.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bogsnorkler said:
going to a fancy dress party next week. thought i’d go as a pirate and to look authentic get my ears pierced for those gold earrings. bloody hell the price! was going to cost me a buck an ear!
Sad!
don’t encourage me you awful man.
Deep thought.
https://i.imgur.com/sNan7pf.mp4
I went down to the shops earlier. There was a man standing on one leg at the ATM. I asked what he was up to and he said: “just checking my balance”.
I’m back. What did I miss?
buffy said:
I’m back. What did I miss?
I saw Santa.
Boris tried to tell a joke.
sibeen said:
Boris tried to tell a joke.
making you laugh is on my bucket list.
buffy said:
I’m back. What did I miss?
I’ve been out in the sun reaching down a deep hole, attempting to unscrew a bit of broken thread in the plumbing. If I can get that out and plug the hole, I’ll be able to have a shower tonight.
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
Boris tried to tell a joke.
making you laugh is on my bucket list.
Keep trying, you’ll probably get there eventually.
Saw a fox last night, eating something off the road. Don’t think I’ve ever seen a fox that close to a city.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:I’m back. What did I miss?
I’ve been out in the sun reaching down a deep hole, attempting to unscrew a bit of broken thread in the plumbing. If I can get that out and plug the hole, I’ll be able to have a shower tonight.
dv said:
Saw a fox last night, eating something off the road. Don’t think I’ve ever seen a fox that close to a city.
See them in town backyards often. Cities are no exception. Foxes are excellent scavengers.
I’m about 8ks from the centre of Melboune, so considered one of the inner city suburbs and occasionally I spot a fox if I’m driving through the back streets late at night.
Peak Warming Man said:
I SAW HIM I SAW HIM.
SANTA I JUST SAW SANTA.
HE…..HE…..WAS STANDING UP IN A UTE HEADING DOWN TO THE PARK.
I suppose all the firetrucks were busy today. He comes to the park here on the local firetruck.
roughbarked said:
dv said:
Saw a fox last night, eating something off the road. Don’t think I’ve ever seen a fox that close to a city.
See them in town backyards often. Cities are no exception. Foxes are excellent scavengers.
There are foxes in the city of Melbourne.
Oh, sorry sibeen, I should have read another post.
I’ve caught up now. Have I mentioned that there is a new Sherlock on ABC tonight?
dv said:
Saw a fox last night, eating something off the road. Don’t think I’ve ever seen a fox that close to a city.
how close to the city?
I’ve seen a few when I was living on the edge of the metro area.
buffy said:
Have I mentioned that there is a new Sherlock on ABC tonight?
No.
party_pants said:
buffy said:
Have I mentioned that there is a new Sherlock on ABC tonight?No.
There is a new Sherlock on ABC tonight.
Sherlock
Sunday, 2 Dec
Series 4 | Episode 1 | The Six Thatchers
8:30 PM – 10:00 PM
m CC Repeated on Friday 7 Dec at 12:55 AM, ABC
As Sherlock waits for Moriarty to make his posthumous move, an intriguing puzzle captures the mercurial detective’s attention. Why is someone destroying images of the late PM Margaret Thatcher?
my friend kestrel, and ripping the wheat off on the home place, distant
buffy said:
Sherlock
Sunday, 2 Dec
Series 4 | Episode 1 | The Six Thatchers
8:30 PM – 10:00 PM
m CC Repeated on Friday 7 Dec at 12:55 AM, ABC
As Sherlock waits for Moriarty to make his posthumous move, an intriguing puzzle captures the mercurial detective’s attention. Why is someone destroying images of the late PM Margaret Thatcher?
Solved it without watching it, Billy Bragg dunnit.
Bogsnorkler said:
going to a fancy dress party next week. thought i’d go as a pirate and to look authentic get my ears pierced for those gold earrings. bloody hell the price! was going to cost me a buck an ear!
Not many people know this, but the reason sailors wore gold earrings was so that if they died away from home their shipmates could sell the gold and pay for a decent funeral.
buffy said:
Oh, sorry sibeen, I should have read another post.
nobody reads sibeen’s posts.
btm said:
Bogsnorkler said:
going to a fancy dress party next week. thought i’d go as a pirate and to look authentic get my ears pierced for those gold earrings. bloody hell the price! was going to cost me a buck an ear!
Not many people know this, but the reason sailors wore gold earrings was so that if they died away from home their shipmates could sell the gold and pay for a decent funeral.
Did you know, some people, claim pirates had the first workers compensation.
buffy said:
I’ve caught up now. Have I mentioned that there is a new Sherlock on ABC tonight?
Yes.
This may interest you Skunky: in the past you’ve questioned why a budding superpower might still claim to be treated like a developing country on issues like foreign aid.
https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/still-poor-or-a-superpower-defining-china-central-to-trade-dispute-20181123-p50hsa.html
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
I’ve caught up now. Have I mentioned that there is a new Sherlock on ABC tonight?Yes.
Actually, it’s not all that new. It was shown in Britain in 2017. But it’s new to me.
Witty Rejoinder said:
This may interest you Skunky: in the past you’ve questioned why a budding superpower might still claim to be treated like a developing country on issues like foreign aid.https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/still-poor-or-a-superpower-defining-china-central-to-trade-dispute-20181123-p50hsa.html
Cheers, I saw that the other day. It’s a crock, to my mind they can self select but if you are running a space program it’s a big ask for other countries to accept it.
party_pants said:
dv said:
Saw a fox last night, eating something off the road. Don’t think I’ve ever seen a fox that close to a city.
how close to the city?
I’ve seen a few when I was living on the edge of the metro area.
22 km odd.
near a large nature reserve, admittedly.
AwesomeO said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
This may interest you Skunky: in the past you’ve questioned why a budding superpower might still claim to be treated like a developing country on issues like foreign aid.https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/still-poor-or-a-superpower-defining-china-central-to-trade-dispute-20181123-p50hsa.html
Cheers, I saw that the other day. It’s a crock, to my mind they can self select but if you are running a space program it’s a big ask for other countries to accept it.
(shrugs) China is a major aid donor, doling out 450 billion dollars to the third world in 2017, nearly half of it going to Africa.
dv said:
party_pants said:
dv said:
Saw a fox last night, eating something off the road. Don’t think I’ve ever seen a fox that close to a city.
how close to the city?
I’ve seen a few when I was living on the edge of the metro area.
22 km odd.
near a large nature reserve, admittedly.
saw one years ago crossing guildford road by the tonkin hwy flyover.
dv said:
AwesomeO said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
This may interest you Skunky: in the past you’ve questioned why a budding superpower might still claim to be treated like a developing country on issues like foreign aid.https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/still-poor-or-a-superpower-defining-china-central-to-trade-dispute-20181123-p50hsa.html
Cheers, I saw that the other day. It’s a crock, to my mind they can self select but if you are running a space program it’s a big ask for other countries to accept it.
(shrugs) China is a major aid donor, doling out 450 billion dollars to the third world in 2017, nearly half of it going to Africa.
India, on the other hand, is not a net foreign aid donor.
Punpkin soup with an egg in it.
The Conservatives came in for some stick for the aid they gave to India last year.
Then again, the single largest recipient of foreign aid from the US is a moderately wealthy country so I guess politics has a lot to do with it.
dv said:
The Conservatives came in for some stick for the aid they gave to India last year.Then again, the single largest recipient of foreign aid from the US is a moderately wealthy country so I guess politics has a lot to do with it.
Aid buys influence.
Bubblecar said:
Pumpkin soup with an egg in it.
Makes more sense than egg soup with a pumpkin in it.
dv said:
The Conservatives came in for some stick for the aid they gave to India last year.Then again, the single largest recipient of foreign aid from the US is a moderately wealthy country so I guess politics has a lot to do with it.
I take it that it is Israel?
sibeen said:
dv said:
The Conservatives came in for some stick for the aid they gave to India last year.Then again, the single largest recipient of foreign aid from the US is a moderately wealthy country so I guess politics has a lot to do with it.
I take it that it is Israel?
Yes
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:I’m back. What did I miss?
I’ve been out in the sun reaching down a deep hole, attempting to unscrew a bit of broken thread in the plumbing. If I can get that out and plug the hole, I’ll be able to have a shower tonight.
Bummer.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:I’m back. What did I miss?
I’ve been out in the sun reaching down a deep hole, attempting to unscrew a bit of broken thread in the plumbing. If I can get that out and plug the hole, I’ll be able to have a shower tonight.
How’d you break the pipe off?
dv said:
The Conservatives came in for some stick for the aid they gave to India last year.Then again, the single largest recipient of foreign aid from the US is a moderately wealthy country so I guess politics has a lot to do with it.
What country is that?
dv said:
sibeen said:
dv said:
The Conservatives came in for some stick for the aid they gave to India last year.Then again, the single largest recipient of foreign aid from the US is a moderately wealthy country so I guess politics has a lot to do with it.
I take it that it is Israel?
Yes
Ignore me. Thanks.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Pumpkin soup with an egg in it.
Makes more sense than egg soup with a pumpkin in it.
Oh, I don’t know. I’ve made egg soup with pumpkin leaves. Putting lumps of pumpkin in it would’ve been nice, too.
I’ve been experimenting with egg soups on Mrs V’s low kJ days.
I’m making pancakes for tea. I don’t think after the lunch we et that we need to eat a lot of food at this juncture.
Tonight it will be steak burgers (scotch fillet) washed down with the popular cola.
It will be the Classic Cola, not the low sugar salt reduced permeate free low octane fat free dolphin friendly low palm oil gluten free low in white rhino horn organic variety they are trying to flog these days.

Michael V said:
dv said:
The Conservatives came in for some stick for the aid they gave to India last year.Then again, the single largest recipient of foreign aid from the US is a moderately wealthy country so I guess politics has a lot to do with it.
What country is that?
That’s Israel.
Per the US government websites, Israel receives more aid from the US than does all of subSaharan Africa put together.
Michael V said:
Ignore me.
Never
dv said:
Still not funny.
dv said:
IDGI
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Pumpkin soup with an egg in it.
Makes more sense than egg soup with a pumpkin in it.
Oh, I don’t know. I’ve made egg soup with pumpkin leaves. Putting lumps of pumpkin in it would’ve been nice, too.
I’ve been experimenting with egg soups on Mrs V’s low kJ days.
Egg drop soup is pleasant.
Peak Warming Man said:
Tonight it will be steak burgers (scotch fillet) washed down with the popular cola.
It will be the Classic Cola, not the low sugar salt reduced permeate free low octane fat free dolphin friendly low palm oil gluten free low in white rhino horn organic variety they are trying to flog these days.
LOL
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:Makes more sense than egg soup with a pumpkin in it.
Oh, I don’t know. I’ve made egg soup with pumpkin leaves. Putting lumps of pumpkin in it would’ve been nice, too.
I’ve been experimenting with egg soups on Mrs V’s low kJ days.
Egg drop soup is pleasant.
The egg might not cook properly because of the varying temperature at different levels in the soup due to convection.
Michael V said:
dv said:
sibeen said:I take it that it is Israel?
Yes
Ignore me. Thanks.
makes whistling noise
Witty Rejoinder said:
Still not funny.
can’t please everyone
Peak Warming Man said:
Tonight it will be steak burgers (scotch fillet) washed down with the popular cola.
It will be the Classic Cola, not the low sugar salt reduced permeate free low octane fat free dolphin friendly low palm oil gluten free low in white rhino horn organic variety they are trying to flog these days.
you bastard!
sibeen said:
dv said:
IDGI
Me neither.
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
dv said:
IDGI
Me neither.
+2
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:Makes more sense than egg soup with a pumpkin in it.
Oh, I don’t know. I’ve made egg soup with pumpkin leaves. Putting lumps of pumpkin in it would’ve been nice, too.
I’ve been experimenting with egg soups on Mrs V’s low kJ days.
Egg drop soup is pleasant.
That’s the sort of thing.
Print social today.
3 plates/15 prints in three hours.
sarahs mum said:
Print social today.3 plates/15 prints in three hours.
Well done :)
Weeds.
sarahs mum said:
Print social today.3 plates/15 prints in three hours.
I’m thinking those two were separated at birth.
sibeen said:
I’m looking at a few recipes for borscht that I’m thinking of doing during the week and I’m not sure which way to go..Hot, beefy, red, Russian borscht is only to be served with copious amounts of beer; which is quite a distinction from the cold, vegetarian, pink Polish borscht, which is only to be served with copious amounts of beer.
It has me in a pickle.
Do a hot, red, porky Ukrainian borscht.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
Print social today.3 plates/15 prints in three hours.
I’m thinking those two were separated at birth.
I think one is 18 months older than the other one. Mum did a BFA/BA(History) double major. Is close to finishing a PhD about slavery in the Pacific.
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
I’m looking at a few recipes for borscht that I’m thinking of doing during the week and I’m not sure which way to go..Hot, beefy, red, Russian borscht is only to be served with copious amounts of beer; which is quite a distinction from the cold, vegetarian, pink Polish borscht, which is only to be served with copious amounts of beer.
It has me in a pickle.
Do a hot, red, porky Ukrainian borscht.
If it wasn’t Melbourne we could comfortably tell him to do the cold one for Christmas.
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
I’m looking at a few recipes for borscht that I’m thinking of doing during the week and I’m not sure which way to go..Hot, beefy, red, Russian borscht is only to be served with copious amounts of beer; which is quite a distinction from the cold, vegetarian, pink Polish borscht, which is only to be served with copious amounts of beer.
It has me in a pickle.
Do a hot, red, porky Ukrainian borscht.
If it’s too good the Russians might just pop over and nick it.
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
I’m looking at a few recipes for borscht that I’m thinking of doing during the week and I’m not sure which way to go..Hot, beefy, red, Russian borscht is only to be served with copious amounts of beer; which is quite a distinction from the cold, vegetarian, pink Polish borscht, which is only to be served with copious amounts of beer.
It has me in a pickle.
Do a hot, red, porky Ukrainian borscht.
I have a few dutch cream potatoes in jackets in the oven. I’m going to crack open some sour cream and a small tin of salmon..
The original recording console used on Led Zeppelin’s “Stairway to Heaven” is going up for auction.
In a press release, Bonhams auction house specialist Claire Tole-Moir said it’s “hard to overestimate how crucial a role this console has played in the British rock and pop scene. … This console is a piece of Britain’s modern cultural history.” In other words, the purchase price won’t be cheap.
The console is actually a hybrid of two separate studio desks built by Helios Electronics. The first is the Basing Street Studio 2 console, which was installed at Island Records’ London studios in 1969. While housed there, the console was used on many famous recordings, including Bob Marley and the Wailers’ “I Shot the Sheriff,” Cat Stevens’ “Peace Train” and parts of the the Rolling Stones’ “Angie.”
Still, the most legendary recording took place in December 1970, when Led Zeppelin began work on their fourth album. While most of the record was produced in a mobile studio owned by the Rolling Stones, work began at Basing Street. It was there that the band completed the majority of “Stairway to Heaven”; Jimmy Page even returned several months later to record his epic guitar solo.
The second half of the HeliosCentric comes from a console used in the late Alvin Lee’s studio between 1973 and 1979. Lee, the guitarist and singer for the band Ten Years After, worked during that time with an array of collaborators, including George Harrison, Mick Fleetwood and Ronnie Wood.
Both desks eventually ended up in storage until they were rescued and given new life by another pair of music legends: Elvis Costello and Squeeze’s Chris Difford. The pair teamed up in 1996 to open their own recording studio, and spent years painstakingly fusing the two historic consoles together into one desk. The result was a studio that attracted contemporary artists such as Sia, Cage the Elephant and Dido.
This isn’t the first time Bonhams has auctioned off a piece of music history. Last year the auction house sold the EMI TG12345 MK IV console on which Pink Floyd recorded The Dark Side of the Moon for $1.8 million.
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/stairway-to-heaven-recording-console/?fbclid=IwAR0OluBg2y9nqSx41LID3hphfC0t0TdtSPAeQS_mpyJbYMlb91o2Kwvgh4w
Peak Warming Man said:
Tonight it will be steak burgers (scotch fillet) washed down with the popular cola.
It will be the Classic Cola, not the low sugar salt reduced permeate free low octane fat free dolphin friendly low palm oil gluten free low in white rhino horn organic variety they are trying to flog these days.
So it’s the one with real sugar and real caffeine then?
sarahs mum said:
The original recording console used on Led Zeppelin’s “Stairway to Heaven” is going up for auction.In a press release, Bonhams auction house specialist Claire Tole-Moir said it’s “hard to overestimate how crucial a role this console has played in the British rock and pop scene. … This console is a piece of Britain’s modern cultural history.” In other words, the purchase price won’t be cheap.
The console is actually a hybrid of two separate studio desks built by Helios Electronics. The first is the Basing Street Studio 2 console, which was installed at Island Records’ London studios in 1969. While housed there, the console was used on many famous recordings, including Bob Marley and the Wailers’ “I Shot the Sheriff,” Cat Stevens’ “Peace Train” and parts of the the Rolling Stones’ “Angie.”
Still, the most legendary recording took place in December 1970, when Led Zeppelin began work on their fourth album. While most of the record was produced in a mobile studio owned by the Rolling Stones, work began at Basing Street. It was there that the band completed the majority of “Stairway to Heaven”; Jimmy Page even returned several months later to record his epic guitar solo.
The second half of the HeliosCentric comes from a console used in the late Alvin Lee’s studio between 1973 and 1979. Lee, the guitarist and singer for the band Ten Years After, worked during that time with an array of collaborators, including George Harrison, Mick Fleetwood and Ronnie Wood.
Both desks eventually ended up in storage until they were rescued and given new life by another pair of music legends: Elvis Costello and Squeeze’s Chris Difford. The pair teamed up in 1996 to open their own recording studio, and spent years painstakingly fusing the two historic consoles together into one desk. The result was a studio that attracted contemporary artists such as Sia, Cage the Elephant and Dido.
This isn’t the first time Bonhams has auctioned off a piece of music history. Last year the auction house sold the EMI TG12345 MK IV console on which Pink Floyd recorded The Dark Side of the Moon for $1.8 million.
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/stairway-to-heaven-recording-console/?fbclid=IwAR0OluBg2y9nqSx41LID3hphfC0t0TdtSPAeQS_mpyJbYMlb91o2Kwvgh4w
I didn’t realise that Elvis Costello was such an electronic wizard.
Has a little rolls eyes
sarahs mum said:
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Weeds.
My brother at Neika has a whole hillside like that. He put up a picture that he labelled Matisse. While pretty, it really shouldn’t be like that. I commented about them being weeds but got no reply.
sibeen said:
I’m looking at a few recipes for borscht that I’m thinking of doing during the week and I’m not sure which way to go..Hot, beefy, red, Russian borscht is only to be served with copious amounts of beer; which is quite a distinction from the cold, vegetarian, pink Polish borscht, which is only to be served with copious amounts of beer.
It has me in a pickle.
What the hell are you wasting time on borscht for? Have beer, served with copious amounts of beer.
Is someone going to explain that cartoon? I also don’t get it.
btm said:
sibeen said:
I’m looking at a few recipes for borscht that I’m thinking of doing during the week and I’m not sure which way to go..Hot, beefy, red, Russian borscht is only to be served with copious amounts of beer; which is quite a distinction from the cold, vegetarian, pink Polish borscht, which is only to be served with copious amounts of beer.
It has me in a pickle.
What the hell are you wasting time on borscht for? Have beer, served with copious amounts of beer.
Someone has to think of the children.
buffy said:
Is someone going to explain that cartoon? I also don’t get it.
Its Vorshtein.
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
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Weeds.
My brother at Neika has a whole hillside like that. He put up a picture that he labelled Matisse. While pretty, it really shouldn’t be like that. I commented about them being weeds but got no reply.
Looks nice in that mistiness. But..weeds.
So, with these bushfires in Queensland. One person has died, yes? The young fellow cutting down a tree? How many houses and sheds and stuff have burnt? I heard a news item, yesterday I think, and I was surprised at the low number. Five houses? For such big fires, that’s a light toll.
I’m going to watch Insiders, and then Sherlock. I may be back later. Much later.
buffy said:
I’m going to watch Insiders, and then Sherlock. I may be back later. Much later.
OK. See ya then.
sarahs mum said:
The original recording console used on Led Zeppelin’s “Stairway to Heaven” is going up for auction.In a press release, Bonhams auction house specialist Claire Tole-Moir said it’s “hard to overestimate how crucial a role this console has played in the British rock and pop scene. … This console is a piece of Britain’s modern cultural history.” In other words, the purchase price won’t be cheap.
The console is actually a hybrid of two separate studio desks built by Helios Electronics. The first is the Basing Street Studio 2 console, which was installed at Island Records’ London studios in 1969. While housed there, the console was used on many famous recordings, including Bob Marley and the Wailers’ “I Shot the Sheriff,” Cat Stevens’ “Peace Train” and parts of the the Rolling Stones’ “Angie.”
Still, the most legendary recording took place in December 1970, when Led Zeppelin began work on their fourth album. While most of the record was produced in a mobile studio owned by the Rolling Stones, work began at Basing Street. It was there that the band completed the majority of “Stairway to Heaven”; Jimmy Page even returned several months later to record his epic guitar solo.
The second half of the HeliosCentric comes from a console used in the late Alvin Lee’s studio between 1973 and 1979. Lee, the guitarist and singer for the band Ten Years After, worked during that time with an array of collaborators, including George Harrison, Mick Fleetwood and Ronnie Wood.
Both desks eventually ended up in storage until they were rescued and given new life by another pair of music legends: Elvis Costello and Squeeze’s Chris Difford. The pair teamed up in 1996 to open their own recording studio, and spent years painstakingly fusing the two historic consoles together into one desk. The result was a studio that attracted contemporary artists such as Sia, Cage the Elephant and Dido.
This isn’t the first time Bonhams has auctioned off a piece of music history. Last year the auction house sold the EMI TG12345 MK IV console on which Pink Floyd recorded The Dark Side of the Moon for $1.8 million.
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/stairway-to-heaven-recording-console/?fbclid=IwAR0OluBg2y9nqSx41LID3hphfC0t0TdtSPAeQS_mpyJbYMlb91o2Kwvgh4w
Perfect Christmas gift from sibeen to himself.
Got the plimbing problem fixed.
roughbarked said:
Got the plimbing problem fixed.
good work,
buffy said:
So, with these bushfires in Queensland. One person has died, yes? The young fellow cutting down a tree? How many houses and sheds and stuff have burnt? I heard a news item, yesterday I think, and I was surprised at the low number. Five houses? For such big fires, that’s a light toll.
Yeah one death. And a few houses. The Firies, Police and Disaster Management have done well.
Queensland is quite sparsely settled. And fires are scary. We don’t have big ones often. My fire plan is quite simply to run away.
roughbarked said:
Got the plimbing problem fixed.
Well done.
Michael V said:
buffy said:So, with these bushfires in Queensland. One person has died, yes? The young fellow cutting down a tree? How many houses and sheds and stuff have burnt? I heard a news item, yesterday I think, and I was surprised at the low number. Five houses? For such big fires, that’s a light toll.
Yeah one death. And a few houses. The Firies, Police and Disaster Management have done well.
Queensland is quite sparsely settled. And fires are scary. We don’t have big ones often. My fire plan is quite simply to run away.
It always surprises me the people who want to stay and fight. In Victoria a lot of people changed their mind after Black Saturday. Now the general feeling is ‘run away’. Give it twenty years or so, the memories will fade, and people will want to stay and fight.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:So, with these bushfires in Queensland. One person has died, yes? The young fellow cutting down a tree? How many houses and sheds and stuff have burnt? I heard a news item, yesterday I think, and I was surprised at the low number. Five houses? For such big fires, that’s a light toll.
Yeah one death. And a few houses. The Firies, Police and Disaster Management have done well.
Queensland is quite sparsely settled. And fires are scary. We don’t have big ones often. My fire plan is quite simply to run away.
It always surprises me the people who want to stay and fight. In Victoria a lot of people changed their mind after Black Saturday. Now the general feeling is ‘run away’. Give it twenty years or so, the memories will fade, and people will want to stay and fight.
It’s a funny old world.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:So, with these bushfires in Queensland. One person has died, yes? The young fellow cutting down a tree? How many houses and sheds and stuff have burnt? I heard a news item, yesterday I think, and I was surprised at the low number. Five houses? For such big fires, that’s a light toll.
Yeah one death. And a few houses. The Firies, Police and Disaster Management have done well.
Queensland is quite sparsely settled. And fires are scary. We don’t have big ones often. My fire plan is quite simply to run away.
It always surprises me the people who want to stay and fight. In Victoria a lot of people changed their mind after Black Saturday. Now the general feeling is ‘run away’. Give it twenty years or so, the memories will fade, and people will want to stay and fight.
If the fire is being fanned by hot gale force winds and you are on the side of a hill in tall timber country you would be crazy to stay, but fire conditions vary so much that general statements don’t mean a great deal.
dv said:
It alludes to the new Supreme Court justice Brett Kavanagh and his youthful shenanigans. Something also about ‘head in the clouds’ or ‘a storm brewing’ which I am not so sure about.
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
It alludes to the new Supreme Court justice Brett Kavanagh and his youthful shenanigans. Something also about ‘head in the clouds’ or ‘a storm brewing’ which I am not so sure about.
Oh, so you were right earlier, it’s not funny.

sibeen said:
In 1992 I evacuated Sarah down to friends in the township and stayed. The fire arrived at midnight and burned all around us and cut us off. We were surrounded by fire for a few days but it came no closer than 50 metres from the house.
Michael V said:
buffy said:So, with these bushfires in Queensland. One person has died, yes? The young fellow cutting down a tree? How many houses and sheds and stuff have burnt? I heard a news item, yesterday I think, and I was surprised at the low number. Five houses? For such big fires, that’s a light toll.
Yeah one death. And a few houses. The Firies, Police and Disaster Management have done well.
Queensland is quite sparsely settled. And fires are scary. We don’t have big ones often. My fire plan is quite simply to run away.
It always surprises me the people who want to stay and fight. In Victoria a lot of people changed their mind after Black Saturday. Now the general feeling is ‘run away’. Give it twenty years or so, the memories will fade, and people will want to stay and fight.
If it is on again I am out of here. I am no longer young and I am alone.
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
It alludes to the new Supreme Court justice Brett Kavanagh and his youthful shenanigans. Something also about ‘head in the clouds’ or ‘a storm brewing’ which I am not so sure about.
Oh, so you were right earlier, it’s not funny.
The Grinch is depicted as a hairy, pot-bellied, pear-shaped, snub-nosed green colored creature with a cat-like face and cynical personality and is portrayed as a bitter and ill-tempered character…
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:It alludes to the new Supreme Court justice Brett Kavanagh and his youthful shenanigans. Something also about ‘head in the clouds’ or ‘a storm brewing’ which I am not so sure about.
Oh, so you were right earlier, it’s not funny.
The Grinch is depicted as a hairy, pot-bellied, pear-shaped, snub-nosed green colored creature with a cat-like face and cynical personality and is portrayed as a bitter and ill-tempered character…
Up till the green coloured bit it does describe me rather accurately.
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
It alludes to the new Supreme Court justice Brett Kavanagh and his youthful shenanigans. Something also about ‘head in the clouds’ or ‘a storm brewing’ which I am not so sure about.
Uh-huh.
Ta.
Bogsnorkler said:
:)
hello
monkey skipper said:
hello
Hello. Hot enough for you?
Michael V said:
monkey skipper said:
hello
Hello. Hot enough for you?
yeah.
The fire a few km southwest of us has breached its containment lines and now has been upgraded to a yellow warning. That’s concerning.
Michael V said:
The fire a few km southwest of us has breached its containment lines and now has been upgraded to a yellow warning. That’s concerning.
Sounds concerning
Michael V said:
The fire a few km southwest of us has breached its containment lines and now has been upgraded to a yellow warning. That’s concerning.
yeah, which way is the wind blowing?
monkey skipper said:
hello
normal vague wave given
sibeen said:
monkey skipper said:
hello
normal vague wave given
waves back to sibeen and
says it is feckin hot and humid here
monkey skipper said:
says it is feckin hot and humid here
You’re not wrong Narelle.
Watching this.
Asterix And Obelix: Mission Cleopatra
Not sure if it’s meant to be a drama or comedy. Might help a bit if I spoke French but. It’s got Gérard Depardieu in drag.
When Julius Caesar challenges Cleopatra to build a sumptuous palace in record time, Edifis the Architect is driven to desperate measures to get the job done (or risk being thrown to the crocodiles). With the help of his friends Astérix, Obélix and a magic potion from the Druid Miraculix, he must win the challenge against all odds.
Peak Warming Man said:
monkey skipper said:
says it is feckin hot and humid here
You’re not wrong Narelle.
You don’t see many Narelles anymore.
Michael V said:
The fire a few km southwest of us has breached its containment lines and now has been upgraded to a yellow warning. That’s concerning.
Fark.
Problem with Rainbow Beach is, there’s only one way out.
Divine Angel said:
Peak Warming Man said:
monkey skipper said:
says it is feckin hot and humid here
You’re not wrong Narelle.
You don’t see many Narelles anymore.
I have seen one a family friend sorta
Woodie said:
Watching this.Asterix And Obelix: Mission Cleopatra
Not sure if it’s meant to be a drama or comedy. Might help a bit if I spoke French but. It’s got Gérard Depardieu in drag.
When Julius Caesar challenges Cleopatra to build a sumptuous palace in record time, Edifis the Architect is driven to desperate measures to get the job done (or risk being thrown to the crocodiles). With the help of his friends Astérix, Obélix and a magic potion from the Druid Miraculix, he must win the challenge against all odds.
Comedy gold that movie.
Apparently I am staying a couple of nights in Nimbin next week Woodie.
sarahs mum said:
Apparently I am staying a couple of nights in Nimbin next week Woodie.
Hippy!
sarahs mum said:
Apparently I am staying a couple of nights in Nimbin next week Woodie.
nice. should be a mellow experience (potentially)
sarahs mum said:
Apparently I am staying a couple of nights in Nimbin next week Woodie.
Way kewlies. :) We should try and catch up.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
Apparently I am staying a couple of nights in Nimbin next week Woodie.
Hippy!
I told my sister I wasn’t into Nimbin.She said there was nowhere nice to stay in Kyogle.
Woodie said:
sarahs mum said:
Apparently I am staying a couple of nights in Nimbin next week Woodie.
Way kewlies. :) We should try and catch up.
I am leaving here on Saturday. And I think we are going up the coast on Monday. I will try to keep you in the loop.
sarahs mum said:
Woodie said:
sarahs mum said:
Apparently I am staying a couple of nights in Nimbin next week Woodie.
Way kewlies. :) We should try and catch up.
I am leaving here on Saturday. And I think we are going up the coast on Monday. I will try to keep you in the loop.
I
Woodie said:
sarahs mum said:
Woodie said:Way kewlies. :) We should try and catch up.
I am leaving here on Saturday. And I think we are going up the coast on Monday. I will try to keep you in the loop.
I
I’m working all week. Mon & Tues Byron Bay, Wed – Fri in Casino. Then I’m on hols til the New Year. So I’m on hols as of next Saturday.
So it might work? Okay. I shall make some posts when plans begin to firm up. :)
At this stage Brother John is in Lismore base. But he will probably be back in Kyogle by the time we get there.
sarahs mum said:
So it might work? Okay. I shall make some posts when plans begin to firm up. :)
At this stage Brother John is in Lismore base. But he will probably be back in Kyogle by the time we get there.
When are you planning to return?
So, it looks like December Chat, 2018 is the winner.
I was wondering which of the three December chat threads would triumph.
sibeen said:
Woodie said:
Watching this.Asterix And Obelix: Mission Cleopatra
Not sure if it’s meant to be a drama or comedy. Might help a bit if I spoke French but. It’s got Gérard Depardieu in drag.
When Julius Caesar challenges Cleopatra to build a sumptuous palace in record time, Edifis the Architect is driven to desperate measures to get the job done (or risk being thrown to the crocodiles). With the help of his friends Astérix, Obélix and a magic potion from the Druid Miraculix, he must win the challenge against all odds.
Comedy gold that movie.
Actually, I agree. I never could understand the humour of the comic strip when I was young. The movie is actually much better.
Woodie said:
sarahs mum said:So it might work? Okay. I shall make some posts when plans begin to firm up. :)
At this stage Brother John is in Lismore base. But he will probably be back in Kyogle by the time we get there.
When are you planning to return?
I think we will only be up there a couple of days. I am only out of Tassie for 8 days.
Woodie said:
Watching this.Asterix And Obelix: Mission Cleopatra
Not sure if it’s meant to be a drama or comedy. Might help a bit if I spoke French but. It’s got Gérard Depardieu in drag.
When Julius Caesar challenges Cleopatra to build a sumptuous palace in record time, Edifis the Architect is driven to desperate measures to get the job done (or risk being thrown to the crocodiles). With the help of his friends Astérix, Obélix and a magic potion from the Druid Miraculix, he must win the challenge against all odds.
I decided it’s meant to be a comedy. You can’t possible take Gerard Depardieu seriously while he’s dressed like that.
Michael V said:
monkey skipper said:
hello
Hello. Hot enough for you?
Not here, would you mind exporting some of that heat.
Best wishes for the fire situation.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:So, with these bushfires in Queensland. One person has died, yes? The young fellow cutting down a tree? How many houses and sheds and stuff have burnt? I heard a news item, yesterday I think, and I was surprised at the low number. Five houses? For such big fires, that’s a light toll.
Yeah one death. And a few houses. The Firies, Police and Disaster Management have done well.
Queensland is quite sparsely settled. And fires are scary. We don’t have big ones often. My fire plan is quite simply to run away.
It always surprises me the people who want to stay and fight. In Victoria a lot of people changed their mind after Black Saturday. Now the general feeling is ‘run away’. Give it twenty years or so, the memories will fade, and people will want to stay and fight.
Before Black Saturday, CSIRO was advising people to stay and fight. And it was the right advice, until the Greens got voted in to the local councils.
The CSIRO advice didn’t take into account that the councils run by the Greens had stopped backburning and were fining people $20,000 for the simple act of clearing a firebreak around their house.
Without backburning and firebreaks, a huge loss of life was inevitable.
mollwollfumble said:
So, it looks like December Chat, 2018 is the winner.I was wondering which of the three December chat threads would triumph.
Why do we have three threads? I missed all the fun.
Divine Angel said:
mollwollfumble said:
So, it looks like December Chat, 2018 is the winner.I was wondering which of the three December chat threads would triumph.
Why do we have three threads? I missed all the fun.
I thought we had four.
one.
will there be a 2019 predictions thread?
I tentatively predict there may be :P
That was a good Sherlock. But you have to concentrate the whole time.
should I start another one?
party_pants said:
should I start another one?
go on … you know you want to
buffy said:
That was a good Sherlock. But you have to concentrate the whole time.
You need something less cerebral, something where attention span is irrelevant.
A good western where they circle the wagons and the hero rescues the brother, little Timmy, of his love interest from a cattle stampede. That sort of thing.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:That was a good Sherlock. But you have to concentrate the whole time.
You need something less cerebral, something where attention span is irrelevant.
A good western where they circle the wagons and the hero rescues the brother, little Timmy, of his love interest from a cattle stampede. That sort of thing.
That’s daytime TV. When I’m at work or outside in the garden. Mr buffy watches those.
mollwollfumble said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:Yeah one death. And a few houses. The Firies, Police and Disaster Management have done well.
Queensland is quite sparsely settled. And fires are scary. We don’t have big ones often. My fire plan is quite simply to run away.
It always surprises me the people who want to stay and fight. In Victoria a lot of people changed their mind after Black Saturday. Now the general feeling is ‘run away’. Give it twenty years or so, the memories will fade, and people will want to stay and fight.
Before Black Saturday, CSIRO was advising people to stay and fight. And it was the right advice, until the Greens got voted in to the local councils.
The CSIRO advice didn’t take into account that the councils run by the Greens had stopped backburning and were fining people $20,000 for the simple act of clearing a firebreak around their house.
Without backburning and firebreaks, a huge loss of life was inevitable.
You have to differentiate between forest and grassfires. We have a stay and defend plan based on our fires are grassfires. Fast and through. And embers before and after. If we lived in a forest we would have an evacuate plan. And when we are older we will have an evacuate plan. But for now things are probably manageable. The stay and defend stuff came from the Ash Wednesday investigations and it was quite specific about the circumstances which were and were not survivable.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:That was a good Sherlock. But you have to concentrate the whole time.
You need something less cerebral, something where attention span is irrelevant.
A good western where they circle the wagons and the hero rescues the brother, little Timmy, of his love interest from a cattle stampede. That sort of thing.
That’s daytime TV. When I’m at work or outside in the garden. Mr buffy watches those.
rofl
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:That was a good Sherlock. But you have to concentrate the whole time.
You need something less cerebral, something where attention span is irrelevant.
A good western where they circle the wagons and the hero rescues the brother, little Timmy, of his love interest from a cattle stampede. That sort of thing.
That’s daytime TV. When I’m at work or outside in the garden. Mr buffy watches those.
Except for Manitou’s Shoe. I’ll watch Manitou’s Shoe again whenever I can.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0248408/
If everyone had there own individual chat thread each month, grant you, the conversation may be a bit one-sided; but on the upside you would miss out on Boris’ joke attempted telling.
It’s a toss up.
sibeen said:
If everyone had there own individual chat thread each month, grant you, the conversation may be a bit one-sided; but on the upside you would miss out on Boris’ joke attempted telling.It’s a toss up.
their
See, I even self correct. I’d still do this in my own individual thread.
I saw a snippit of tv over the weekend suggesting the next focus for human space visiting is to the moon again for a space station of the future and robots to mars will continue.
They also mention jellyfish spawned in space once returned to earth could not swim as they lacked the skill sets.
6 chat threads.
With some added synchronicity.
monkey skipper said:
I saw a snippit of tv over the weekend suggesting the next focus for human space visiting is to the moon again for a space station of the future and robots to mars will continue.They also mention jellyfish spawned in space once returned to earth could not swim as they lacked the skill sets.
environmental changes affecting the first generation that is a quick reaction to environmental changes (I thought) for that level animal in the eco ladder.
sarahs mum said:
6 chat threads.With some added synchronicity.
Synchronicity · Loudon Wainwright III
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eucxdzWS5k
sibeen said:
If everyone had there own individual chat thread each month, grant you, the conversation may be a bit one-sided; but on the upside you would miss out on Boris’ joke attempted telling.It’s a toss up.
no crash hot grammar.
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
If everyone had there own individual chat thread each month, grant you, the conversation may be a bit one-sided; but on the upside you would miss out on Boris’ joke attempted telling.It’s a toss up.
no crash hot grammar.
wait for it…wait for it
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
If everyone had there own individual chat thread each month, grant you, the conversation may be a bit one-sided; but on the upside you would miss out on Boris’ joke attempted telling.It’s a toss up.
no crash hot grammar.

buffy said:
That was a good Sherlock. But you have to concentrate the whole time.
complicatwed plot.
Paris riots: Macron to hold emergency meeting after worst unrest in decade
More than 400 people were arrested on Saturday, with over 300 still in police custody on Sunday. More than 130 people were injured, while one protester is in serious condition in a coma.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/02/paris-riots-worst-unrest-decade-with-shops-and-cars-set-alight-gilets-jaunes?CMP=fb_gu&fbclid=IwAR1Mp8Brgi-x_QFvN6MV3HtaQ313abBfxv05UV2JaDpOamgYQWsh5mD-ngI
A few years back I was talking to a young French man about Tony Abbott and a crappy budget. He asked why we weren’t out on the streets protesting. I said we Aussies weren’t the types to throw up a barricade and hurl things.
sarahs mum said:
Paris riots: Macron to hold emergency meeting after worst unrest in decadeMore than 400 people were arrested on Saturday, with over 300 still in police custody on Sunday. More than 130 people were injured, while one protester is in serious condition in a coma.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/02/paris-riots-worst-unrest-decade-with-shops-and-cars-set-alight-gilets-jaunes?CMP=fb_gu&fbclid=IwAR1Mp8Brgi-x_QFvN6MV3HtaQ313abBfxv05UV2JaDpOamgYQWsh5mD-ngI
A few years back I was talking to a young French man about Tony Abbott and a crappy budget. He asked why we weren’t out on the streets protesting. I said we Aussies weren’t the types to throw up a barricade and hurl things.
In the main we aren’t. Our protests are usually non-violent.
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
Paris riots: Macron to hold emergency meeting after worst unrest in decadeMore than 400 people were arrested on Saturday, with over 300 still in police custody on Sunday. More than 130 people were injured, while one protester is in serious condition in a coma.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/02/paris-riots-worst-unrest-decade-with-shops-and-cars-set-alight-gilets-jaunes?CMP=fb_gu&fbclid=IwAR1Mp8Brgi-x_QFvN6MV3HtaQ313abBfxv05UV2JaDpOamgYQWsh5mD-ngI
A few years back I was talking to a young French man about Tony Abbott and a crappy budget. He asked why we weren’t out on the streets protesting. I said we Aussies weren’t the types to throw up a barricade and hurl things.
In the main we aren’t. Our protests are usually non-violent.
We tend to go a march or a sit in.
i’m calling this swallow razor
transition said:
i’m calling this swallow razor
Leonard Cohen – Bird on the Wire 1979]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmPUu-rMpWA
mollwollfumble said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:Yeah one death. And a few houses. The Firies, Police and Disaster Management have done well.
Queensland is quite sparsely settled. And fires are scary. We don’t have big ones often. My fire plan is quite simply to run away.
It always surprises me the people who want to stay and fight. In Victoria a lot of people changed their mind after Black Saturday. Now the general feeling is ‘run away’. Give it twenty years or so, the memories will fade, and people will want to stay and fight.
Before Black Saturday, CSIRO was advising people to stay and fight. And it was the right advice, until the Greens got voted in to the local councils.
The CSIRO advice didn’t take into account that the councils run by the Greens had stopped backburning and were fining people $20,000 for the simple act of clearing a firebreak around their house.
Without backburning and firebreaks, a huge loss of life was inevitable.
I think you have distorted the situation. The $20,000 fine was for someone who cleared his entire block of trees, it was not simply clearing a firebreak around the building. If these people are so frightened to live in the bush, then they should live in a city, instead they move to a pleasant treed area with wildlife and destroy it to make it just like the city.
sarahs mum said:
Paris riots: Macron to hold emergency meeting after worst unrest in decadeMore than 400 people were arrested on Saturday, with over 300 still in police custody on Sunday. More than 130 people were injured, while one protester is in serious condition in a coma.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/02/paris-riots-worst-unrest-decade-with-shops-and-cars-set-alight-gilets-jaunes?CMP=fb_gu&fbclid=IwAR1Mp8Brgi-x_QFvN6MV3HtaQ313abBfxv05UV2JaDpOamgYQWsh5mD-ngI
A few years back I was talking to a young French man about Tony Abbott and a crappy budget. He asked why we weren’t out on the streets protesting. I said we Aussies weren’t the types to throw up a barricade and hurl things.
The French will riot at the drop of a hat, which IMO is not a bad thing as we live in a democracy and people have the right to express their views. Perhaps we should try it instead of leaving it to the school children.
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
Paris riots: Macron to hold emergency meeting after worst unrest in decadeMore than 400 people were arrested on Saturday, with over 300 still in police custody on Sunday. More than 130 people were injured, while one protester is in serious condition in a coma.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/02/paris-riots-worst-unrest-decade-with-shops-and-cars-set-alight-gilets-jaunes?CMP=fb_gu&fbclid=IwAR1Mp8Brgi-x_QFvN6MV3HtaQ313abBfxv05UV2JaDpOamgYQWsh5mD-ngI
A few years back I was talking to a young French man about Tony Abbott and a crappy budget. He asked why we weren’t out on the streets protesting. I said we Aussies weren’t the types to throw up a barricade and hurl things.
In the main we aren’t. Our protests are usually non-violent.
We tend to go a march or a sit in.
Or do nothing, with the possible except of a letter to the editor, or to whine on the internet.
Just in case your week wasn’t weird enough.
https://i.imgur.com/9JHuxCJ.mp4


PermeateFree said:
mollwollfumble said:
sibeen said:It always surprises me the people who want to stay and fight. In Victoria a lot of people changed their mind after Black Saturday. Now the general feeling is ‘run away’. Give it twenty years or so, the memories will fade, and people will want to stay and fight.
Before Black Saturday, CSIRO was advising people to stay and fight. And it was the right advice, until the Greens got voted in to the local councils.
The CSIRO advice didn’t take into account that the councils run by the Greens had stopped backburning and were fining people $20,000 for the simple act of clearing a firebreak around their house.
Without backburning and firebreaks, a huge loss of life was inevitable.
I think you have distorted the situation. The $20,000 fine was for someone who cleared his entire block of trees, it was not simply clearing a firebreak around the building. If these people are so frightened to live in the bush, then they should live in a city, instead they move to a pleasant treed area with wildlife and destroy it to make it just like the city.
If they earn their money in a city, they should live there rather than move out into the nearby forested country.
Good morning.
Very smoky around here this morning from the fire on North Stradbroke Island. Slightly cooler today than the weekend and sunny.
Mr Mutant is going to a conference today and Mini Me will be in daycare so I’ll take the opportunity to wrap some Christmas and birthday presents.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 10 degrees, overcast and misty. That’s fine. Intending to cut grass at Casterton today, but it can wait until the afternoon. I see we still have a 35 forecast for Thursday.
Good morning everybody.
Very warm, very humid and very smoky here. Looks like cloud, and the sun is giving that weird yellow hue through it. And of course, it’s smelly.
The nearest fire is still on yellow alert this morning, having broken containment lines last night. It was very windy last night, too. We left an outside light on so police could find the front door (which is not on the front of the house) in case the fire got to town and we needed to evacuate, which it hasn’t and we didn’t. The wind has settled somewhat.
Morning punters and correctors, smoky here too.
So we need a bear?
Michael V said:
So we need a bear?
Or a bandit.
Michael V said:
So we need a bear?
You need a Yogi.
The sky that really gets my adrenaline running is a particular red colour from the smoke.
I have changed my plans. Not going mowing today, grass is too damp. So Buffy’s Biscuit Bakery is in session. We’ll go mowing tomorrow after my haircut is done. I’m not allowed to forget the appointment again.
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
So we need a bear?
Or a bandit.
I’ve got one of those. Looks like this:

Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
So we need a bear?
Or a bandit.
or a band.

love the broad church of the libs, where any arsehole is welcome and be protected if necessary.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/craig-kelly-s-expletive-laden-rant-exposes-depth-of-liberal-party-tensions-20181202-p50jra.html
How effective is bushfire smoke at deflecting UV?
#showerthoughts

Bogsnorkler said:
Kids should have better protection from that sort of thing.
Greetings all. I have returned from the cloudy uplands of the mid west. They seem to have things under control there.
my underhouse bandicoot has a baby. saw it this morning loping across the lawn.
I ought fuck off, got shit to do
make my day if someone said something nasty before I left, for motivation.
something outside the polite coma of being thoroughly convinced of ones own good intentions
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/neil-degrasse-tyson-welcomes-investigation-into-claims/10576128
Just as well he didn’t say he was searching for another planet.
Rule 303 said:
Greetings all. I have returned from the cloudy uplands of the mid west. They seem to have things under control there.
Goodo 😊
transition said:
I ought fuck off, got shit to domake my day if someone said something nasty before I left, for motivation.
something outside the polite coma of being thoroughly convinced of ones own good intentions
Greetings from the north.
Peak Warming Man said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/neil-degrasse-tyson-welcomes-investigation-into-claims/10576128Just as well he didn’t say he was searching for another planet.
ROFL
I’m home alone so this is my breakfast.
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/neil-degrasse-tyson-welcomes-investigation-into-claims/10576128Just as well he didn’t say he was searching for another planet.
ROFL
should do FB, that joke was done two days ago.
:-)
Divine Angel said:
I’m home alone so this is my breakfast.
That should give you heaps of energy for mowing the yard and washing and cleaning and baking.
Divine Angel said:
I’m home alone so this is my breakfast.
That’s a million carbs right there.
kii said:
transition said:
I ought fuck off, got shit to domake my day if someone said something nasty before I left, for motivation.
something outside the polite coma of being thoroughly convinced of ones own good intentions
Greetings from the north.
Hi kii, haven’t seen you for a while.
Hello kii.
I’ll just emerge from this huge pile of shortbread. Then I’ll go back to the kitchen. Next on the list is the jammy biscuits. And then the Afghans.
Divine Angel said:
I’m home alone so this is my breakfast.
Healthy AF.
transition said:
I ought fuck off, got shit to domake my day if someone said something nasty before I left, for motivation.
something outside the polite coma of being thoroughly convinced of ones own good intentions
Go and do something useful, you mischief-making rascal of a monkey.
I have a groaning heap of washing up to clear. But I’ll do five more minutes of nothing first.
Divine Angel said:
I’m home alone so this is my breakfast.
I think it behooves you to make a narna sanger seeing bananas and croissants are the same shape.
Bubblecar said:
kii said:
transition said:
I ought fuck off, got shit to domake my day if someone said something nasty before I left, for motivation.
something outside the polite coma of being thoroughly convinced of ones own good intentions
Greetings from the north.
Hi kii, haven’t seen you for a while.
Hi Mr Car. Been house renovating in between being sick and trying to keep up with a newly rejuvenated mr kii.
Oh, and sorting quinces.
kii said:
Bubblecar said:
kii said:Greetings from the north.
Hi kii, haven’t seen you for a while.
Hi Mr Car. Been house renovating in between being sick and trying to keep up with a newly rejuvenated mr kii.
Oh, and sorting quinces.
That all sounds worthy. Good to hear mr kii is like a puppy again.
Rule 303 said:
Greetings all. I have returned from the cloudy uplands of the mid west. They seem to have things under control there.
Why did you go there?
transition said:
I ought fuck off, got shit to domake my day if someone said something nasty before I left, for motivation.
something outside the polite coma of being thoroughly convinced of ones own good intentions
Good morning transition. RUOK?
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Greetings all. I have returned from the cloudy uplands of the mid west. They seem to have things under control there.
Why did you go there?
so he could come back.
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Greetings all. I have returned from the cloudy uplands of the mid west. They seem to have things under control there.
Why did you go there?
The 21st birthday of a relative of Mrs. Rule. Also, because it’s better than staying home.
Aussie actress Judy McBurney (The Young Doctors) died over the weekend from cancer of the tear duct, a rare cancer.
kii said:
Greetings from the north.
Good morning.
:)
Divine Angel said:
Aussie actress Judy McBurney (The Young Doctors) died over the weekend from cancer of the tear duct, a rare cancer.
Must be a type of skin cancer.
Morning nerds, productive weekend. Went for a walk, $150k if you can find a missing hiker in the area below…how hard could it be…
buffy said:
Divine Angel said:
Aussie actress Judy McBurney (The Young Doctors) died over the weekend from cancer of the tear duct, a rare cancer.
Must be a type of skin cancer.
Can be, but the entertainment guy on tv said they had to remove her eye to get to the tumour.
https://www.cancer.net/cancer-types/lacrimal-gland-tumor/overview
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Greetings all. I have returned from the cloudy uplands of the mid west. They seem to have things under control there.
Why did you go there?
The 21st birthday of a relative of Mrs. Rule. Also, because it’s better than staying home.
Ah. I’d imagined that maybe you’d gone off to fight fires or rescue people from dangerous situations or similar.
poikilotherm said:
Morning nerds, productive weekend. Went for a walk, $150k if you can find a missing hiker in the area below…how hard could it be…
Where’s Wally sure got a lot harder.
Divine Angel said:
Aussie actress Judy McBurney (The Young Doctors) died over the weekend from cancer of the tear duct, a rare cancer.
Paul Sherwen, Ex Tour de France cyclist one half of the most famous cycling commentating team in the world, died on the weekend at 62.
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
Aussie actress Judy McBurney (The Young Doctors) died over the weekend from cancer of the tear duct, a rare cancer.
Paul Sherwen, Ex Tour de France cyclist one half of the most famous cycling commentating team in the world, died on the weekend at 62.
No wonder I’ve never heard of him.
poikilotherm said:
Morning nerds, productive weekend. Went for a walk, $150k if you can find a missing hiker in the area below…how hard could it be…
Have a go, ya-mug. Have a go.
poikilotherm said:
Morning nerds, productive weekend. Went for a walk, $150k if you can find a missing hiker in the area below…how hard could it be…
$150k might just do it. 20 people for a couple of weeks…
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:Why did you go there?
The 21st birthday of a relative of Mrs. Rule. Also, because it’s better than staying home.
Ah. I’d imagined that maybe you’d gone off to fight fires or rescue people from dangerous situations or similar.
Those 21st parties can get pretty wild.
;-)
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
Aussie actress Judy McBurney (The Young Doctors) died over the weekend from cancer of the tear duct, a rare cancer.
Paul Sherwen, Ex Tour de France cyclist one half of the most famous cycling commentating team in the world, died on the weekend at 62.
That’s a great shame, I quite liked his commentary over the years.
Rule 303 said:
poikilotherm said:
Morning nerds, productive weekend. Went for a walk, $150k if you can find a missing hiker in the area below…how hard could it be…
$150k might just do it. 20 people for a couple of weeks…
And a dog, a proper dog.
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:
poikilotherm said:
Morning nerds, productive weekend. Went for a walk, $150k if you can find a missing hiker in the area below…how hard could it be…
$150k might just do it. 20 people for a couple of weeks…
And a dog, a proper dog.
I don’t think there’s any cadaver dogs in Australia. $150k probably isn’t enough to bring them from overseas.
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:$150k might just do it. 20 people for a couple of weeks…
And a dog, a proper dog.
I don’t think there’s any cadaver dogs in Australia. $150k probably isn’t enough to bring them from overseas.
Only Hollywood celebs get to bring dogs into this country.
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:And a dog, a proper dog.
I don’t think there’s any cadaver dogs in Australia. $150k probably isn’t enough to bring them from overseas.
Only Hollywood celebs get to bring dogs into this country.
Or so they think, anyway….

Bogsnorkler said:
It’s the great thing about being a teacher – You never know when you’re going to light the spark that fires the imagination and creates a pornstar, or a military dictator.
Bogsnorkler said:
Brilliant!
:)
Bogsnorkler said:
The kid’s an idiot. If only he’d gone for France.
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
The kid’s an idiot. If only he’d gone for France.
gotta do belgium first. everyone does.
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
The kid’s an idiot. If only he’d gone for France.
gotta do belgium first. everyone does.
Not Poland?
Nice sauerkraut.
Rule 303 said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:The kid’s an idiot. If only he’d gone for France.
gotta do belgium first. everyone does.
Not Poland?
Nice sauerkraut.
Belgium has the beer though.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
Bogsnorkler said:gotta do belgium first. everyone does.
Not Poland?
Nice sauerkraut.
Belgium has the beer though.
and chocolate.
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:Not Poland?
Nice sauerkraut.
Belgium has the beer though.
and chocolate.
Good points.
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:
poikilotherm said:
Morning nerds, productive weekend. Went for a walk, $150k if you can find a missing hiker in the area below…how hard could it be…
$150k might just do it. 20 people for a couple of weeks…
And a dog, a proper dog.
Can the Jungle Pug have a go?
Note to self. When making the Afghan biscuit mix, remember to overdo the cocoa by a lot. Doing just what the recipe said is insipid. But you eat the biscuits for the chocolate on top, right?
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:$150k might just do it. 20 people for a couple of weeks…
And a dog, a proper dog.
Can the Jungle Pug have a go?
No.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:$150k might just do it. 20 people for a couple of weeks…
And a dog, a proper dog.
Can the Jungle Pug have a go?
I think some of the native cockroaches I saw would give it a run for it’s money…
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:And a dog, a proper dog.
Can the Jungle Pug have a go?
No.
Spoil-sport.

The sky has darkened considerably in the last half hour. The sun is almost hidden by the bush-fire smoke now. This local fire now has the biggest plume in the state that I can see on the satellite image. And there’s quite a bit of westerly breeze, too – gusting to moderate. I’m guessing that’ll be pushing the situation along. Making things all the more difficult for the firies.
This arvo may become interesting. My fire plan is to go to the beach and sit in the ocean.
sarahs mum said:
“Will I grow up to be as big as you, mummy?”
Michael V said:
The sky has darkened considerably in the last half hour. The sun is almost hidden by the bush-fire smoke now. This local fire now has the biggest plume in the state that I can see on the satellite image. And there’s quite a bit of westerly breeze, too – gusting to moderate. I’m guessing that’ll be pushing the situation along. Making things all the more difficult for the firies.This arvo may become interesting. My fire plan is to go to the beach and sit in the ocean.
:(
Michael V said:
The sky has darkened considerably in the last half hour. The sun is almost hidden by the bush-fire smoke now. This local fire now has the biggest plume in the state that I can see on the satellite image. And there’s quite a bit of westerly breeze, too – gusting to moderate. I’m guessing that’ll be pushing the situation along. Making things all the more difficult for the firies.This arvo may become interesting. My fire plan is to go to the beach and sit in the ocean.
Fark.
On the upside, if it hits the ocean it’ll burn itself out.
Michael V said:
The sky has darkened considerably in the last half hour. The sun is almost hidden by the bush-fire smoke now. This local fire now has the biggest plume in the state that I can see on the satellite image. And there’s quite a bit of westerly breeze, too – gusting to moderate. I’m guessing that’ll be pushing the situation along. Making things all the more difficult for the firies.This arvo may become interesting. My fire plan is to go to the beach and sit in the ocean.
Good luck Michael.
Crazy wind this end, very gusty and bad tempered.
Here’s a headline you don’t read everyday.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/nigerian-president-denies-dying-and-being-replaced-by-clone/10576886
Divine Angel said:
Here’s a headline you don’t read everyday.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/nigerian-president-denies-dying-and-being-replaced-by-clone/10576886
Can’t blame them for being suspicious in such a scam-ridden land.
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
The sky has darkened considerably in the last half hour. The sun is almost hidden by the bush-fire smoke now. This local fire now has the biggest plume in the state that I can see on the satellite image. And there’s quite a bit of westerly breeze, too – gusting to moderate. I’m guessing that’ll be pushing the situation along. Making things all the more difficult for the firies.This arvo may become interesting. My fire plan is to go to the beach and sit in the ocean.
Fark.
On the upside, if it hits the ocean it’ll burn itself out.
Yep. That’s the point of going to sit in the ocean.
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
The sky has darkened considerably in the last half hour. The sun is almost hidden by the bush-fire smoke now. This local fire now has the biggest plume in the state that I can see on the satellite image. And there’s quite a bit of westerly breeze, too – gusting to moderate. I’m guessing that’ll be pushing the situation along. Making things all the more difficult for the firies.This arvo may become interesting. My fire plan is to go to the beach and sit in the ocean.
Good luck Michael.
Ta.
Last night we left an outside light on so the cops could find us if necessary. It wasn’t necessary, luckily.
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
The sky has darkened considerably in the last half hour. The sun is almost hidden by the bush-fire smoke now. This local fire now has the biggest plume in the state that I can see on the satellite image. And there’s quite a bit of westerly breeze, too – gusting to moderate. I’m guessing that’ll be pushing the situation along. Making things all the more difficult for the firies.This arvo may become interesting. My fire plan is to go to the beach and sit in the ocean.
Fark.
On the upside, if it hits the ocean it’ll burn itself out.
Yep. That’s the point of going to sit in the ocean.
Thankyou for mansplaining that to my little girly brain.
Divine Angel said:
Here’s a headline you don’t read everyday.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/nigerian-president-denies-dying-and-being-replaced-by-clone/10576886
giggle
I’ll have to read the story now.
:)
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:Fark.
On the upside, if it hits the ocean it’ll burn itself out.
Yep. That’s the point of going to sit in the ocean.
Thankyou for mansplaining that to my little girly brain.
Apologies.
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Here’s a headline you don’t read everyday.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/nigerian-president-denies-dying-and-being-replaced-by-clone/10576886
giggle
I’ll have to read the story now.
:)
I didn’t die……………and anyway they can’t prove it.
Divine Angel said:
Here’s a headline you don’t read everyday.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/nigerian-president-denies-dying-and-being-replaced-by-clone/10576886
Well it would say that, wouldn’t it?
I’ve got a ham and salad roll that I got from the ham and salad roll shop down the street.
Having it with a mug of tea (black & 1)
Michael V said:
The sky has darkened considerably in the last half hour. The sun is almost hidden by the bush-fire smoke now. This local fire now has the biggest plume in the state that I can see on the satellite image. And there’s quite a bit of westerly breeze, too – gusting to moderate. I’m guessing that’ll be pushing the situation along. Making things all the more difficult for the firies.This arvo may become interesting. My fire plan is to go to the beach and sit in the ocean.
I’ve got a pond 100m from the front door, supplied by a neverfail spring. And it’s cold. That is our backup…
Mr buffy has made me an enormous ham cheese and salad sammich in what appears to be half a loaf of Turkish bread. It’s yum. He did not really approve of my breakfast today – odds and sods of biscuit pastry as I worked in the Biscuit Bakery.
I had microwaved diet vegetables (onion, cabbage, green beans) with an egg mixed in, some powdered chicken stock and a brief spray of olive oil.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Divine Angel said:
Here’s a headline you don’t read everyday.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/nigerian-president-denies-dying-and-being-replaced-by-clone/10576886
Well it would say that, wouldn’t it?
If you play his local mosque’s call to prayer backwards it chants “I bury Muhammadu Buhari”.
I’d better call the sister about the traditional pre-Christmas lunch.
This house is just too small to host it so I’ll suggest that we book a table at Zep’s. But if so we’d better do it soon.
Bubblecar said:
I’d better call the sister about the traditional pre-Christmas lunch.This house is just too small to host it so I’ll suggest that we book a table at Zep’s. But if so we’d better do it soon.
What about a picnic?
Bubblecar said:
I’d better call the sister about the traditional pre-Christmas lunch.This house is just too small to host it so I’ll suggest that we book a table at Zep’s. But if so we’d better do it soon.
What about a picnic in the woods?
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
I’d better call the sister about the traditional pre-Christmas lunch.This house is just too small to host it so I’ll suggest that we book a table at Zep’s. But if so we’d better do it soon.
What about a picnic in the woods?
Too slow.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
I’d better call the sister about the traditional pre-Christmas lunch.This house is just too small to host it so I’ll suggest that we book a table at Zep’s. But if so we’d better do it soon.
What about a picnic?
Doesn’t sound very comfortable. Anna has limited mobility these days and needs proper seating etc.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
I’d better call the sister about the traditional pre-Christmas lunch.This house is just too small to host it so I’ll suggest that we book a table at Zep’s. But if so we’d better do it soon.
What about a picnic in the woods?
He’d be in for a big surprise…
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
I’d better call the sister about the traditional pre-Christmas lunch.This house is just too small to host it so I’ll suggest that we book a table at Zep’s. But if so we’d better do it soon.
What about a picnic?
Doesn’t sound very comfortable. Anna has limited mobility these days and needs proper seating etc.
:(
buffy said:
Mr buffy has made me an enormous ham cheese and salad sammich in what appears to be half a loaf of Turkish bread. It’s yum. He did not really approve of my breakfast today – odds and sods of biscuit pastry as I worked in the Biscuit Bakery.
Don’t worry buffy, no one here approved of my brekky either.
Could I please have an opinion. I haven’t got any lemons ripe at the moment. But I have got a couple of limes. Would Hollandaise sauce work with limes instead of lemons to have on steamed asparagus tonight?
buffy said:
Could I please have an opinion. I haven’t got any lemons ripe at the moment. But I have got a couple of limes. Would Hollandaise sauce work with limes instead of lemons to have on steamed asparagus tonight?
Sure. Why not?
Mrs V makes an orange hollandaise for asparagus.
Michael V said:
buffy said:Could I please have an opinion. I haven’t got any lemons ripe at the moment. But I have got a couple of limes. Would Hollandaise sauce work with limes instead of lemons to have on steamed asparagus tonight?
Sure. Why not?
Mrs V makes an orange hollandaise for asparagus.
There’s plenty of recipes for lime hollandaise sauce on the electric interwebs.
Michael V said:
buffy said:Could I please have an opinion. I haven’t got any lemons ripe at the moment. But I have got a couple of limes. Would Hollandaise sauce work with limes instead of lemons to have on steamed asparagus tonight?
Sure. Why not?
Mrs V makes an orange hollandaise for asparagus.
Ta. I also have a couple of oranges on the tree. But I think the tarter taste of lime might be better. We both really like a bitey lemon Hollandaise, but the tree has been rather popular with friends, family and local businesses lately and we are down to green lemons only for a few weeks.
:)
I think I’ll go and have a siesta. I have some more things I want to do today, but I’m not enthused at the moment. A bit of a read and snooze might fix that.
Posted by Dr Karl a couple of hours ago.

sarahs mum said:
Posted by Dr Karl a couple of hours ago.
I always hang portrait cause of line space. But I would have thought the portrait ones would have moved around more and dried faster.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
Posted by Dr Karl a couple of hours ago.
I always hang portrait cause of line space. But I would have thought the portrait ones would have moved around more and dried faster.
They should find out who hangs then landscape, what kind of weirdo would do that…
Who has the line space to hang portrait?

Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
The sky has darkened considerably in the last half hour. The sun is almost hidden by the bush-fire smoke now. This local fire now has the biggest plume in the state that I can see on the satellite image. And there’s quite a bit of westerly breeze, too – gusting to moderate. I’m guessing that’ll be pushing the situation along. Making things all the more difficult for the firies.This arvo may become interesting. My fire plan is to go to the beach and sit in the ocean.
Fark.
On the upside, if it hits the ocean it’ll burn itself out.
Yep. That’s the point of going to sit in the ocean.
Take a towel to wrap around yout head.
PermeateFree said:
Take your jacket off, you idiot.
Divine Angel said:
Who has the line space to hang portrait?
Portrait (vertical) uses less space than landscape (horizontal).
sarahs mum said:
I’ve seen fish do that.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
Posted by Dr Karl a couple of hours ago.
I always hang portrait cause of line space. But I would have thought the portrait ones would have moved around more and dried faster.
Me too, and me too.
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:
Who has the line space to hang portrait?
Portrait (vertical) uses less space than landscape (horizontal).
Duh me, that’s what I meant. Heat is melting my brane.
A very happy dog.
https://i.imgur.com/YYN9GEU.mp4

PermeateFree said:
Without going in to the maths (which is quite complex) the one legged chair is less stable than any poly legged chair.
My daughter was somewhat surprised to learn that penalty rates do not apply on New Year’s Eve as it is not a public holiday.
Does seem a bit odd.
(In South Australia, it’s a public holiday after 7 pm on NYE)
Peak Warming Man said:
PermeateFree said:
Without going in to the maths (which is quite complex) the one legged chair is less stable than any poly legged chair.
The three-legged chair is more stable than a four-legged chair on uneven surfaces. Which is why many humble cottage stools had three legs.
Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari denies dying and being replaced by Sudanese clone
—-
Well he would
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/nigerian-president-denies-dying-and-being-replaced-by-clone/10576886
On a flat surface, with the same loading, it’s going to be easier to knock over the three legged chair.
How to get a SUV back on its wheels.
https://i.imgur.com/OZM41rp.mp4
dv said:
Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari denies dying and being replaced by Sudanese clone—-
Well he would
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/nigerian-president-denies-dying-and-being-replaced-by-clone/10576886
It would certainly be more startling if he admitted dying and being replaced by a clone.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari denies dying and being replaced by Sudanese clone—-
Well he would
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/nigerian-president-denies-dying-and-being-replaced-by-clone/10576886
It would certainly be more startling if he admitted dying and being replaced by a clone.
These days there is probably forums and support groups for people who have died and been replaced by clones.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari denies dying and being replaced by Sudanese clone—-
Well he would
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/nigerian-president-denies-dying-and-being-replaced-by-clone/10576886
It would certainly be more startling if he admitted dying and being replaced by a clone.
I suppose if they were to render the headline completely neutral on the topic, it would be “Man who claims to be Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari denies that Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari died and that, furthermore, he, ie the man making the claim, is a Sudanese clone of Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari.”
AwesomeO said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari denies dying and being replaced by Sudanese clone—-
Well he would
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/nigerian-president-denies-dying-and-being-replaced-by-clone/10576886
It would certainly be more startling if he admitted dying and being replaced by a clone.
These days there is probably forums and support groups for people who have died and been replaced by clones.
And they’ll want to teach it in schools.
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari denies dying and being replaced by Sudanese clone—-
Well he would
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/nigerian-president-denies-dying-and-being-replaced-by-clone/10576886
It would certainly be more startling if he admitted dying and being replaced by a clone.
I suppose if they were to render the headline completely neutral on the topic, it would be “Man who claims to be Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari denies that Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari died and that, furthermore, he, ie the man making the claim, is a Sudanese clone of Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari.”
Yea, no idea why they didn’t use that suggested headline, none at all.
Which reminds me of the best part of an otherwise terrible movie. “Send in the Clones”.
AwesomeO said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari denies dying and being replaced by Sudanese clone—-
Well he would
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/nigerian-president-denies-dying-and-being-replaced-by-clone/10576886
It would certainly be more startling if he admitted dying and being replaced by a clone.
These days there is probably forums and support groups for people who have died and been replaced by clones.
Well they would benefit from peer support and appropriate counselling. If you’ve died and been replaced by a clone there’d be a tendency to think of yourself purely as a victim rather than a survivor.
Which reminds me an all stations alert from some wag in the the CIA where they were trying to locate a covert shipment of mules destined for Afghanistan where the ship was thought to be lost in a storm, to be on the lookout for a ship of mules.
…and the forum couldn’t forum for 30 minutes.

AwesomeO said:
Which reminds me an all stations alert from some wag in the the CIA where they were trying to locate a covert shipment of mules destined for Afghanistan where the ship was thought to be lost in a storm, to be on the lookout for a ship of mules.
I don’t quite understand
PermeateFree said:
It was only Baldrick.
dv said:
AwesomeO said:
Which reminds me an all stations alert from some wag in the the CIA where they were trying to locate a covert shipment of mules destined for Afghanistan where the ship was thought to be lost in a storm, to be on the lookout for a ship of mules.
I don’t quite understand
You not heard of the expression a ship of fools?
dv said:
AwesomeO said:
Which reminds me an all stations alert from some wag in the the CIA where they were trying to locate a covert shipment of mules destined for Afghanistan where the ship was thought to be lost in a storm, to be on the lookout for a ship of mules.
I don’t quite understand
Save me, save me from tomorrow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHh0V7UjVXI
AwesomeO said:
dv said:
AwesomeO said:
Which reminds me an all stations alert from some wag in the the CIA where they were trying to locate a covert shipment of mules destined for Afghanistan where the ship was thought to be lost in a storm, to be on the lookout for a ship of mules.
I don’t quite understand
You not heard of the expression a ship of fools?

The Ship of Fools of Sebastian Brant
CXV. Social Ship of Mechanics
Woodcut attributed to Albrecht Durer
PermeateFree said:
:)
AwesomeO said:
dv said:
AwesomeO said:
Which reminds me an all stations alert from some wag in the the CIA where they were trying to locate a covert shipment of mules destined for Afghanistan where the ship was thought to be lost in a storm, to be on the lookout for a ship of mules.
I don’t quite understand
You not heard of the expression a ship of fools?
Nope.
This meme has been around for a while.
What I can’t decide is if it is quoted from a real occurrence or faked.
mollwollfumble said:
This meme has been around for a while.What I can’t decide is if it is quoted from a real occurrence or faked.
Another version, same meme. Abyssinian not Tabby this time.
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mollwollfumble said:
mollwollfumble said:
This meme has been around for a while.What I can’t decide is if it is quoted from a real occurrence or faked.
Another version, same meme. Abyssinian not Tabby this time.
What sort of cat is it really?
mollwollfumble said:
This meme has been around for a while.What I can’t decide is if it is quoted from a real occurrence or faked.
Joke
https://warmful.com/look-adorable-tabby-cat-found-porch-anybody-know-owner/
Michael V said:
mollwollfumble said:
mollwollfumble said:
This meme has been around for a while.What I can’t decide is if it is quoted from a real occurrence or faked.
Another version, same meme. Abyssinian not Tabby this time.
What sort of cat is it really?
Looks like a Mountain Lion
What’s in a name:
P. concolor holds the Guinness record for the animal with the greatest number of names, with over 40 in English alone
poikilotherm said:
Michael V said:
mollwollfumble said:Another version, same meme. Abyssinian not Tabby this time.
What sort of cat is it really?
Looks like a Mountain Lion
Yes mountain lion.
And if it’s totally a joke, who is bathing a mountain lion.
mollwollfumble said:
poikilotherm said:
Michael V said:What sort of cat is it really?
Looks like a Mountain Lion
Yes mountain lion.
And if it’s totally a joke, who is bathing a mountain lion.
The US has some rather lax laws on exotic pet keeping.
PermeateFree said:
A very happy dog.https://i.imgur.com/YYN9GEU.mp4
I enjoyed that.
:)
poikilotherm said:
mollwollfumble said:
poikilotherm said:Looks like a Mountain Lion
Yes mountain lion.
And if it’s totally a joke, who is bathing a mountain lion.
The US has some rather lax laws on exotic pet keeping.
Ah, I hadn’t thought of that.
dinner’s served
4:41 and all is well
Divine Angel said:
mollwollfumble said:
This meme has been around for a while.What I can’t decide is if it is quoted from a real occurrence or faked.
Joke
https://warmful.com/look-adorable-tabby-cat-found-porch-anybody-know-owner/
Is warmful the new Snopes?
Which one should we use and why?
transition said:
dinner’s served4:41 and all is well
Bit early yet. We won’t eat until after Dr Who today. Mr buffy is presently preparing some cheese sauce (parmesan). He is going to do razorback chicken breasts. Stuffed with cheese and dried apricots. wrapped in bacon. baked. Served with cheese sauce over top. I should probably make up the Hollandaise for the asparagus to go with it.
And I think I might make a teacake. Can always freeze and take bits to work for morning/afternoon tea. Microwave warm. Pop on a bit of butter…
Divine Angel said:
mollwollfumble said:
This meme has been around for a while.What I can’t decide is if it is quoted from a real occurrence or faked.
Joke
https://warmful.com/look-adorable-tabby-cat-found-porch-anybody-know-owner/
OK, thanks. An American Native cat – a Mountain Lion.
mollwollfumble said:
poikilotherm said:
mollwollfumble said:Yes mountain lion.
And if it’s totally a joke, who is bathing a mountain lion.
The US has some rather lax laws on exotic pet keeping.
Ah, I hadn’t thought of that.
They’re natives to North America, aren’t they?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Divine Angel said:
mollwollfumble said:
This meme has been around for a while.What I can’t decide is if it is quoted from a real occurrence or faked.
Joke
https://warmful.com/look-adorable-tabby-cat-found-porch-anybody-know-owner/
Is warmful the new Snopes?
Which one should we use and why?
Snopes is the definitive one, but doesn’t cover everything any more.
Warmful looks like a collection of odd internet repostings.
Could be a mountain lion, or possibly a cougar, catamount or puma.
Fun fact: Uruguay is the only nation in the Americas to lack them.

dv said:
the one on the right is coughed up lung?
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
the one on the right is coughed up lung?
defoliated birch at left, circulatory system of a human hand on the right
Boris or p_p lurking?
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
the one on the right is coughed up lung?
defoliated birch at left, circulatory system of a human hand on the right
Nice.
But I’m not going to make a jigsaw puzzle from it.
poikilotherm said:
Boris or p_p lurking?
kinda
party_pants said:
poikilotherm said:
Boris or p_p lurking?
kinda
any tips on cutting a long curved line through plywood?
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
the one on the right is coughed up lung?
defoliated birch at left, circulatory system of a human hand on the right

sarahs mum said:
dv said:
sarahs mum said:the one on the right is coughed up lung?
defoliated birch at left, circulatory system of a human hand on the right
Someone coughed that up apparently.
poikilotherm said:
party_pants said:
poikilotherm said:
Boris or p_p lurking?
kinda
any tips on cutting a long curved line through plywood?
Hachimaki headband, focus and a katana.
poikilotherm said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:defoliated birch at left, circulatory system of a human hand on the right
Someone coughed that up apparently.
never had so much fun
poikilotherm said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:defoliated birch at left, circulatory system of a human hand on the right
Someone coughed that up apparently.
I posted it the other day. Now everything red and fractal will be lung.
——
The New England Journal of Medicine
Like This Page · 30 November ·
A 36-year-old man was admitted to the intensive care unit with an acute exacerbation of chronic heart failure. After a ventricular assist device was placed and anticoagulation therapy initiated, hemoptysis developed, and he expectorated a cast of the right bronchial tree. Read the full case details: https://nej.md/2PZu29T
sarahs mum said:
poikilotherm said:
sarahs mum said:
Someone coughed that up apparently.
I posted it the other day. Now everything red and fractal will be lung.
——
The New England Journal of Medicine
Like This Page · 30 November ·A 36-year-old man was admitted to the intensive care unit with an acute exacerbation of chronic heart failure. After a ventricular assist device was placed and anticoagulation therapy initiated, hemoptysis developed, and he expectorated a cast of the right bronchial tree. Read the full case details: https://nej.md/2PZu29T
Ah, a cast? So I read that as not the lung, but the blood clogging it?
sarahs mum said:
Now everything red and fractal will be lung.
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(she’s not well)
mollwollfumble said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Divine Angel said:Joke
https://warmful.com/look-adorable-tabby-cat-found-porch-anybody-know-owner/
Is warmful the new Snopes?
Which one should we use and why?
Snopes is the definitive one, but doesn’t cover everything any more.
Warmful looks like a collection of odd internet repostings.
I guess the Snopes must be getting close to retirement.
I guess a wikisnopes might not work that well.
poikilotherm said:
party_pants said:
poikilotherm said:
Boris or p_p lurking?
kinda
any tips on cutting a long curved line through plywood?
electric jigsaw
if doing it the hard way by hand I would rough cut the approximate shape in straight lines with a tenon saw say within 1-2 cm of the final line, then finish off the fine work with a coping saw or fret saw.
you could probably do a rough cut with the electric jigsaw first if you are comfortable doing the final cut all in one go.
dv said:
sarahs mum said:Now everything red and fractal will be lung.
(she’s not well)
That is so ready for some Disney animation.
dv said:
sarahs mum said:Now everything red and fractal will be lung.
(she’s not well)
Pfft. the Guardian has been giving that a flogging, two articles at least and all critical. I can’t help but feel if it was Michelle instead of Melania it would be lauded instead as avant-garde, creative and a representation of the fresh wind of change over outdated and stale paridigms under the woke Obama leadership.
party_pants said:
poikilotherm said:
party_pants said:kinda
any tips on cutting a long curved line through plywood?
electric jigsaw
if doing it the hard way by hand I would rough cut the approximate shape in straight lines with a tenon saw say within 1-2 cm of the final line, then finish off the fine work with a coping saw or fret saw.
you could probably do a rough cut with the electric jigsaw first if you are comfortable doing the final cut all in one go.
Thanks. I’d better buy some extra wood…
AwesomeO said:
I can’t help but feel if it was Michelle instead of Melania it would be lauded instead as avant-garde
wank wank wank wank
The Obamas behaved like normal earthling humans so we don’t need to speculate what the reaction would have been if they behaved like the Trumps
party_pants said:
poikilotherm said:
party_pants said:kinda
any tips on cutting a long curved line through plywood?
electric jigsaw
if doing it the hard way by hand I would rough cut the approximate shape in straight lines with a tenon saw say within 1-2 cm of the final line, then finish off the fine work with a coping saw or fret saw.
you could probably do a rough cut with the electric jigsaw first if you are comfortable doing the final cut all in one go.
Oooops – NOT comfortable that should be.
Just remember with the jigsaw if you are trying to follow a curve you need to twist the machine to follow.
party_pants said:
party_pants said:
poikilotherm said:any tips on cutting a long curved line through plywood?
electric jigsaw
if doing it the hard way by hand I would rough cut the approximate shape in straight lines with a tenon saw say within 1-2 cm of the final line, then finish off the fine work with a coping saw or fret saw.
you could probably do a rough cut with the electric jigsaw first if you are comfortable doing the final cut all in one go.
Oooops – NOT comfortable that should be.
Just remember with the jigsaw if you are trying to follow a curve you need to twist the machine to follow.
ah, thin type blade best in the jigsaw then?
dv said:
AwesomeO said:I can’t help but feel if it was Michelle instead of Melania it would be lauded instead as avant-garde
wank wank wank wank
The Obamas behaved like normal earthling humans so we don’t need to speculate what the reaction would have been if they behaved like the Trumps
Not wank at all, it’s a matter of interpretation and I don’t think the Guardian or its letter writers would be interpreting it as negative if it was done by Michelle.
poikilotherm said:
Boris or p_p lurking?
yes.
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.
Junior sprog went off on school,camp this morning and is back later in the week. SWMBO decided to do a scan of junior sprogs social media, including a site that junior sprog didn’t realise that SWMBO knew about. Last evening she’d posted a video of herself sculling out of a bottle of wine that she’d nicked from my collection.
SWMBO has downloaded the video and sent it to junior sprog with the message “enjoy camp”.
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.
jigsaw close to line. sand either by machine or hand to the line. if by hand use a block with the abrasive.
poikilotherm said:
party_pants said:
party_pants said:electric jigsaw
if doing it the hard way by hand I would rough cut the approximate shape in straight lines with a tenon saw say within 1-2 cm of the final line, then finish off the fine work with a coping saw or fret saw.
you could probably do a rough cut with the electric jigsaw first if you are comfortable doing the final cut all in one go.
Oooops – NOT comfortable that should be.
Just remember with the jigsaw if you are trying to follow a curve you need to twist the machine to follow.
ah, thin type blade best in the jigsaw then?
thinner blades can do tighter turns.
sibeen said:
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.Junior sprog went off on school,camp this morning and is back later in the week. SWMBO decided to do a scan of junior sprogs social media, including a site that junior sprog didn’t realise that SWMBO knew about. Last evening she’d posted a video of herself sculling out of a bottle of wine that she’d nicked from my collection.
SWMBO has downloaded the video and sent it to junior sprog with the message “enjoy camp”.
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.
you realise she’ll now join the circus and you’ll never see her again?
sibeen said:
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.Junior sprog went off on school,camp this morning and is back later in the week. SWMBO decided to do a scan of junior sprogs social media, including a site that junior sprog didn’t realise that SWMBO knew about. Last evening she’d posted a video of herself sculling out of a bottle of wine that she’d nicked from my collection.
SWMBO has downloaded the video and sent it to junior sprog with the message “enjoy camp”.
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.
Ahhh but now you have the age old dilemma of secret services everywhere, you have information from a site that is still covert, ie junior sprog doesn’t know you knew about, but if you reveal the information you reveal your source.
sibeen said:
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.Junior sprog went off on school,camp this morning and is back later in the week. SWMBO decided to do a scan of junior sprogs social media, including a site that junior sprog didn’t realise that SWMBO knew about. Last evening she’d posted a video of herself sculling out of a bottle of wine that she’d nicked from my collection.
SWMBO has downloaded the video and sent it to junior sprog with the message “enjoy camp”.
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.
are you going to charge her a fee for the replacement bottle?
sibeen said:
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.Junior sprog went off on school,camp this morning and is back later in the week. SWMBO decided to do a scan of junior sprogs social media, including a site that junior sprog didn’t realise that SWMBO knew about. Last evening she’d posted a video of herself sculling out of a bottle of wine that she’d nicked from my collection.
SWMBO has downloaded the video and sent it to junior sprog with the message “enjoy camp”.
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.
Sprung.
sibeen said:
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.Junior sprog went off on school,camp this morning and is back later in the week. SWMBO decided to do a scan of junior sprogs social media, including a site that junior sprog didn’t realise that SWMBO knew about. Last evening she’d posted a video of herself sculling out of a bottle of wine that she’d nicked from my collection.
SWMBO has downloaded the video and sent it to junior sprog with the message “enjoy camp”.
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.
Ohhhhhhhhh boy. *grabs popcorn *
AwesomeO said:
sibeen said:
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.Junior sprog went off on school,camp this morning and is back later in the week. SWMBO decided to do a scan of junior sprogs social media, including a site that junior sprog didn’t realise that SWMBO knew about. Last evening she’d posted a video of herself sculling out of a bottle of wine that she’d nicked from my collection.
SWMBO has downloaded the video and sent it to junior sprog with the message “enjoy camp”.
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.
Ahhh but now you have the age old dilemma of secret services everywhere, you have information from a site that is still covert, ie junior sprog doesn’t know you knew about, but if you reveal the information you reveal your source.
SWMBO has already sent her the video. She’s going to be spending the next three day not enjoying camp.
sibeen said:
AwesomeO said:
sibeen said:
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.Junior sprog went off on school,camp this morning and is back later in the week. SWMBO decided to do a scan of junior sprogs social media, including a site that junior sprog didn’t realise that SWMBO knew about. Last evening she’d posted a video of herself sculling out of a bottle of wine that she’d nicked from my collection.
SWMBO has downloaded the video and sent it to junior sprog with the message “enjoy camp”.
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.
Ahhh but now you have the age old dilemma of secret services everywhere, you have information from a site that is still covert, ie junior sprog doesn’t know you knew about, but if you reveal the information you reveal your source.
SWMBO has already sent her the video. She’s going to be spending the next three day not enjoying camp.
you’d better tell her it is still safe to come home, just in case.
sibeen said:
AwesomeO said:
sibeen said:
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.Junior sprog went off on school,camp this morning and is back later in the week. SWMBO decided to do a scan of junior sprogs social media, including a site that junior sprog didn’t realise that SWMBO knew about. Last evening she’d posted a video of herself sculling out of a bottle of wine that she’d nicked from my collection.
SWMBO has downloaded the video and sent it to junior sprog with the message “enjoy camp”.
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.
Ahhh but now you have the age old dilemma of secret services everywhere, you have information from a site that is still covert, ie junior sprog doesn’t know you knew about, but if you reveal the information you reveal your source.
SWMBO has already sent her the video. She’s going to be spending the next three day not enjoying camp.
Yeah, I realised that a nano poofteenth after my post. Source has been blown. I think the next action is detonating relations and flys to Dover.
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.Junior sprog went off on school,camp this morning and is back later in the week. SWMBO decided to do a scan of junior sprogs social media, including a site that junior sprog didn’t realise that SWMBO knew about. Last evening she’d posted a video of herself sculling out of a bottle of wine that she’d nicked from my collection.
SWMBO has downloaded the video and sent it to junior sprog with the message “enjoy camp”.
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.
Ohhhhhhhhh boy. *grabs popcorn *
Yep.
I give the kids a shitload of leeway. I was an absolute arsehole of a kid and they really can’t possibly approach my level of teenage evildoing. SWMBO on the other hand was one of those sweetness and light, school prefect, class captain, goody two shoes that always gave me the shits. So she doesn’t understand the incarnate evil that lurks in my genes and those who inherit them, and as such comes down with a terrible vengeance upon evil doers.
I get out of the way.
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.Junior sprog went off on school,camp this morning and is back later in the week. SWMBO decided to do a scan of junior sprogs social media, including a site that junior sprog didn’t realise that SWMBO knew about. Last evening she’d posted a video of herself sculling out of a bottle of wine that she’d nicked from my collection.
SWMBO has downloaded the video and sent it to junior sprog with the message “enjoy camp”.
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.
Ohhhhhhhhh boy. *grabs popcorn *
Yep.
I give the kids a shitload of leeway. I was an absolute arsehole of a kid and they really can’t possibly approach my level of teenage evildoing. SWMBO on the other hand was one of those sweetness and light, school prefect, class captain, goody two shoes that always gave me the shits. So she doesn’t understand the incarnate evil that lurks in my genes and those who inherit them, and as such comes down with a terrible vengeance upon evil doers.
I get out of the way.
When I got sprung as a teenager my Mum went apeshit. Dad was more “I would have been more shocked if I found out you were drinking tea and playing Monopoly”.
Buying cheese to get back in the good books is not an option either.
Just been for a constitution along the esplanade, a bit blowy but the fires on Straddie seem to be out.
Peak Warming Man said:
Buying cheese to get back in the good books is not an option either.
She’ll be replacing the wine out of her part time wages and boy, is she going to get quite a fucking shock when she realises how much it was.
Why do felines grow so much larger than canines? Specifically wondering why there are not tiger sized wolves?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/rcr-tomlinson-administrators-reveal-debts-of-up-to-$630/10576754
I was lucky here. Three years ago I was doing a shitload of work with this mob.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Why do felines grow so much larger than canines? Specifically wondering why there are not tiger sized wolves?
Was there ever a dog as big as a sabre tooth?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Why do felines grow so much larger than canines? Specifically wondering why there are not tiger sized wolves?
Different hunting methods? Cos it would be hard to sustain a pack of ginormous animals on the prey resources? Whereas a cat needs a superiority of some sort, in this case size and strength over its potential best available resources.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Why do felines grow so much larger than canines? Specifically wondering why there are not tiger sized wolves?
because they are velutinous.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Why do felines grow so much larger than canines? Specifically wondering why there are not tiger sized wolves?
Dogs tend to hunt in packs in a more coordinated way than cats, so I guess they don’t need to be bigger to take down medium size game.
There was the Dire Wolf of North America that is thought to have hunted larger prey. But they went extinct at the end of the last ice age when their large prey died out too.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Why do felines grow so much larger than canines? Specifically wondering why there are not tiger sized wolves?
Good question, I can think of a lot of answers all of which are easily dismissed.
Portrait of a planet on the verge of climate catastrophe
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/dec/02/world-verge-climate-catastophe?CMP=share_btn_tw&fbclid=IwAR0bmVwsSNopMsXRxqF2iVtEfoWLFtPIR7rewqC1ol5CY7SCPRIaFScA9fI
sibeen said:
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.Junior sprog went off on school,camp this morning and is back later in the week. SWMBO decided to do a scan of junior sprogs social media, including a site that junior sprog didn’t realise that SWMBO knew about. Last evening she’d posted a video of herself sculling out of a bottle of wine that she’d nicked from my collection.
SWMBO has downloaded the video and sent it to junior sprog with the message “enjoy camp”.
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.
One son drank all my vintage ports…
sarahs mum said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Why do felines grow so much larger than canines? Specifically wondering why there are not tiger sized wolves?
Was there ever a dog as big as a sabre tooth?
My brief research suggests no…
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.Junior sprog went off on school,camp this morning and is back later in the week. SWMBO decided to do a scan of junior sprogs social media, including a site that junior sprog didn’t realise that SWMBO knew about. Last evening she’d posted a video of herself sculling out of a bottle of wine that she’d nicked from my collection.
SWMBO has downloaded the video and sent it to junior sprog with the message “enjoy camp”.
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.
you realise she’ll now join the circus and you’ll never see her again?
She already lives in the Sibeen household circus.
sibeen said:
I was an absolute arsehole of a kid and they really can’t possibly approach my level of teenage evildoing. SWMBO on the other hand was one of those sweetness and light, school prefect, class captain, goody two shoes that always gave me the shits. So she doesn’t understand the incarnate evil that lurks in my genes and those who inherit them, and as such comes down with a terrible vengeance upon evil doers.
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.Junior sprog went off on school,camp this morning and is back later in the week. SWMBO decided to do a scan of junior sprogs social media, including a site that junior sprog didn’t realise that SWMBO knew about. Last evening she’d posted a video of herself sculling out of a bottle of wine that she’d nicked from my collection.
SWMBO has downloaded the video and sent it to junior sprog with the message “enjoy camp”.
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.
Ohhhhhhhhh boy. *grabs popcorn *
Yep.
I give the kids a shitload of leeway. I was an absolute arsehole of a kid and they really can’t possibly approach my level of teenage evildoing. SWMBO on the other hand was one of those sweetness and light, school prefect, class captain, goody two shoes that always gave me the shits. So she doesn’t understand the incarnate evil that lurks in my genes and those who inherit them, and as such comes down with a terrible vengeance upon evil doers.
I get out of the way.
:)
One son got brought home by the Police from a drugs and grog party where they burnt the house down as part of the fun. He was supposed to be somewhere else.

Witty Rejoinder said:
Why do felines grow so much larger than canines? Specifically wondering why there are not tiger sized wolves?
Dogs run their prey down and usually hunt in packs. A very large dog would build up heat more quickly on a long run, so not efficient and if the pack caught anything, a single animal would want to eat more than was possibly available. Cats are most solitary hunters and do so by ambush, which means its prey would be fresher and stronger than after a long run, so the cat need to be bigger and stronger to bring it down.
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Why do felines grow so much larger than canines? Specifically wondering why there are not tiger sized wolves?
Dogs run their prey down and usually hunt in packs. A very large dog would build up heat more quickly on a long run, so not efficient and if the pack caught anything, a single animal would want to eat more than was possibly available. Cats are most solitary hunters and do so by ambush, which means its prey would be fresher and stronger than after a long run, so the cat need to be bigger and stronger to bring it down.
Lions hunt in packs and are rather largish. Big in fact.
sibeen said:
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Why do felines grow so much larger than canines? Specifically wondering why there are not tiger sized wolves?
Dogs run their prey down and usually hunt in packs. A very large dog would build up heat more quickly on a long run, so not efficient and if the pack caught anything, a single animal would want to eat more than was possibly available. Cats are most solitary hunters and do so by ambush, which means its prey would be fresher and stronger than after a long run, so the cat need to be bigger and stronger to bring it down.
Lions hunt in packs and are rather largish. Big in fact.
They still ambush their prey.
Peak Warming Man said:
Just been for a constitution along the esplanade, a bit blowy but the fires on Straddie seem to be out.
The water bomber seems to have done an excellent job on our nearby fire. The sky is almost bluish again. The latest advisory:
“It is travelling in a northerly direction towards Rainbow Beach Road and Cooloola Way.
The fire has the potential to move quickly and residents in Cooloola Cove and Rainbow Beach should be ready to take necessary precautions as the situation could change quickly.
The fire is not currently contained. Waterbombing aircraft are working the area to assist crews in controlling the fire.”
Witty Rejoinder said:
Why do felines grow so much larger than canines? Specifically wondering why there are not tiger sized wolves?
Great Danes?
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Why do felines grow so much larger than canines? Specifically wondering why there are not tiger sized wolves?
Great Danes?
To be fair when comparing big cats, you would need to consider the wolf. The Canadian Timber Wolf is a very large strong dog and generally hunts larger prey.
sibeen said:
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Why do felines grow so much larger than canines? Specifically wondering why there are not tiger sized wolves?
Dogs run their prey down and usually hunt in packs. A very large dog would build up heat more quickly on a long run, so not efficient and if the pack caught anything, a single animal would want to eat more than was possibly available. Cats are most solitary hunters and do so by ambush, which means its prey would be fresher and stronger than after a long run, so the cat need to be bigger and stronger to bring it down.
Lions hunt in packs and are rather largish. Big in fact.
They certainly do. I have seen them do this in the wild. Ngorongoro.
SWMBO has better detecting techniques than I have. She found the errant bottle of wine, with about a third of a bottle left. A Wild Duck Creek Ducks & Drakes 2015, she does have good taste.
I’ll be finishing off that tonight.
sibeen said:
SWMBO has better detecting techniques than I have. She found the errant bottle of wine, with about a third of a bottle left. A Wild Duck Creek Ducks & Drakes 2015, she does have good taste.I’ll be finishing off that tonight.
You might find some of your other wines or spirits taste strangely watery as if diluted.
sibeen said:
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Why do felines grow so much larger than canines? Specifically wondering why there are not tiger sized wolves?
Dogs run their prey down and usually hunt in packs. A very large dog would build up heat more quickly on a long run, so not efficient and if the pack caught anything, a single animal would want to eat more than was possibly available. Cats are most solitary hunters and do so by ambush, which means its prey would be fresher and stronger than after a long run, so the cat need to be bigger and stronger to bring it down.
Lions hunt in packs and are rather largish. Big in fact.
Yes. I suppose pack hunting could be an important factor but i can’t help but suspect there is some genetic reasons restricting canid size. Surely natural selection would have caused a large canine at least once given the right conditions.
https://womenintheworld.com/2018/11/30/dominatrix-specializes-in-turning-white-right-wing-men-into-socialists/?fbclid=IwAR3ZpinE9je39grUo8HLP3Umv9ESG4nL_Fc3ATA0pIkUqpqvHe1pBol9jE4
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
PermeateFree said:Dogs run their prey down and usually hunt in packs. A very large dog would build up heat more quickly on a long run, so not efficient and if the pack caught anything, a single animal would want to eat more than was possibly available. Cats are most solitary hunters and do so by ambush, which means its prey would be fresher and stronger than after a long run, so the cat need to be bigger and stronger to bring it down.
Lions hunt in packs and are rather largish. Big in fact.
Yes. I suppose pack hunting could be an important factor but i can’t help but suspect there is some genetic reasons restricting canid size. Surely natural selection would have caused a large canine at least once given the right conditions.
There might be a square law in there as well, massive dogs can’t run far because they cannot cool enough through the tongue, massive cats can’t take on elephants because of a similar size they would lose all advantages of speed.
…and stealth.
sibeen said:
SWMBO has better detecting techniques than I have. She found the errant bottle of wine, with about a third of a bottle left. A Wild Duck Creek Ducks & Drakes 2015, she does have good taste.I’ll be finishing off that tonight.
Where was it?
And just thinking of another angle, a predator can’t out predate its prey, so gestation periods would come into it as well, the bigger the animal the slower the gestation.
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:
SWMBO has better detecting techniques than I have. She found the errant bottle of wine, with about a third of a bottle left. A Wild Duck Creek Ducks & Drakes 2015, she does have good taste.I’ll be finishing off that tonight.
Where was it?
Hidden at the bottom of a clothes basket. I wasn’t going through that :)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_mammals
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:
SWMBO has better detecting techniques than I have. She found the errant bottle of wine, with about a third of a bottle left. A Wild Duck Creek Ducks & Drakes 2015, she does have good taste.I’ll be finishing off that tonight.
Where was it?
Hidden at the bottom of a clothes basket. I wasn’t going through that :)
That’s an amateur hiding place.
AwesomeO said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:Lions hunt in packs and are rather largish. Big in fact.
Yes. I suppose pack hunting could be an important factor but i can’t help but suspect there is some genetic reasons restricting canid size. Surely natural selection would have caused a large canine at least once given the right conditions.
There might be a square law in there as well, massive dogs can’t run far because they cannot cool enough through the tongue, massive cats can’t take on elephants because of a similar size they would lose all advantages of speed.
something to do with the size and strength of teeth. Lot of Dire Wolf skeletons had damaged teeth.
Witty Rejoinder said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_mammals
I wonder where Bubbles, MV and myself are on the list?
:)
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:Where was it?
Hidden at the bottom of a clothes basket. I wasn’t going through that :)
That’s an amateur hiding place.
She has much to learn :)
sibeen said:
SWMBO has better detecting techniques than I have. She found the errant bottle of wine, with about a third of a bottle left. A Wild Duck Creek Ducks & Drakes 2015, she does have good taste.I’ll be finishing off that tonight.
So she didn’t take the bottle with her to camp then. this was some other occasion?
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
SWMBO has better detecting techniques than I have. She found the errant bottle of wine, with about a third of a bottle left. A Wild Duck Creek Ducks & Drakes 2015, she does have good taste.I’ll be finishing off that tonight.
So she didn’t take the bottle with her to camp then. this was some other occasion?
She posted the video last evening, so we can only assume she was having a quiet sip in her room last evening. Getting on a hangover for the bus trip this morning :)
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
SWMBO has better detecting techniques than I have. She found the errant bottle of wine, with about a third of a bottle left. A Wild Duck Creek Ducks & Drakes 2015, she does have good taste.I’ll be finishing off that tonight.
So she didn’t take the bottle with her to camp then. this was some other occasion?
She posted the video last evening, so we can only assume she was having a quiet sip in her room last evening. Getting on a hangover for the bus trip this morning :)
where’s the fun in that? As a teenager you’re supposed to have half a glass and brag to your mates about how drunk you feel. Sitting in your room scoffing half a bottle is just silly.
You don’t want to mention large vicious animal to Russel Coight while he’s in rehab.
He’s like an old boxer on a tram.
buffy said:
transition said:
dinner’s served4:41 and all is well
Bit early yet. We won’t eat until after Dr Who today. Mr buffy is presently preparing some cheese sauce (parmesan). He is going to do razorback chicken breasts. Stuffed with cheese and dried apricots. wrapped in bacon. baked. Served with cheese sauce over top. I should probably make up the Hollandaise for the asparagus to go with it.
And I think I might make a teacake. Can always freeze and take bits to work for morning/afternoon tea. Microwave warm. Pop on a bit of butter…
you eat well.
yawn
who’s making the coffee
Windows 12 better have a coffee machine, or materializer or whatever science fiction called them
Watched Dr Who. And indeed, as they said, they are stand alone episodes. I quite like that.
Food is now in the oven. Smells good.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/abc-chief-financial-officer-louise-higgins-leaves/10578214
She wasn’t there long.
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/abc-chief-financial-officer-louise-higgins-leaves/10578214
She wasn’t there long.
I’m not surprised she’s gone. According to the managing director she has worked tirelessly since she joined the ABC in February 2017. Buggered if I could go on that long without a break.
I noticed it first yesterday, it was there again today. On SBS world news the host signs off standing in front of the desk, then walks to the back as it fades out. By her feet is something that looks like a dropped pen.
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
PermeateFree said:Dogs run their prey down and usually hunt in packs. A very large dog would build up heat more quickly on a long run, so not efficient and if the pack caught anything, a single animal would want to eat more than was possibly available. Cats are most solitary hunters and do so by ambush, which means its prey would be fresher and stronger than after a long run, so the cat need to be bigger and stronger to bring it down.
Lions hunt in packs and are rather largish. Big in fact.
Yes. I suppose pack hunting could be an important factor but i can’t help but suspect there is some genetic reasons restricting canid size. Surely natural selection would have caused a large canine at least once given the right conditions.
The important thing is not the pack hunting of canines, but the endurance run associated with it of which dogs have an advantage of size and stamina. Big cats are not endurance runners, but are very good at short burst of energy, hence their ambush method of hunting.
AwesomeO said:
I noticed it first yesterday, it was there again today. On SBS world news the host signs off standing in front of the desk, then walks to the back as it fades out. By her feet is something that looks like a dropped pen.
And I didn’t think they would but SBS online has the news, if you go to yesterday’s and go to the last few seconds you will see what I noticed.
Apparently Australian soy bean growers are doing quite well out of the US China trade dispute
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:Hidden at the bottom of a clothes basket. I wasn’t going through that :)
That’s an amateur hiding place.
She has much to learn :)
Do we know why it was hidden?
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_mammals
I wonder where Bubbles, MV and myself are on the list?
:)
I wonder which species of mammal has the greatest population mass.
Cows, I suppose
dv said:
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_mammals
I wonder where Bubbles, MV and myself are on the list?
:)
I wonder which species of mammal has the greatest population mass.
Cows, I suppose
Whales are out of control.
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:That’s an amateur hiding place.
She has much to learn :)
Do we know why it was hidden?
Ahh, for that you probably had to read back a bit to where I poseted:
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.
Junior sprog went off on school,camp this morning and is back later in the week. SWMBO decided to do a scan of junior sprogs social media, including a site that junior sprog didn’t realise that SWMBO knew about. Last evening she’d posted a video of herself sculling out of a bottle of wine that she’d nicked from my collection.
SWMBO has downloaded the video and sent it to junior sprog with the message “enjoy camp”.
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:She has much to learn :)
Do we know why it was hidden?
Ahh, for that you probably had to read back a bit to where I poseted:
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.
Junior sprog went off on school,camp this morning and is back later in the week. SWMBO decided to do a scan of junior sprogs social media, including a site that junior sprog didn’t realise that SWMBO knew about. Last evening she’d posted a video of herself sculling out of a bottle of wine that she’d nicked from my collection.
SWMBO has downloaded the video and sent it to junior sprog with the message “enjoy camp”.
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.
Ahhh.
Possibly an error to alert said child to knowledge of the video. By this strategy, she has limited the value of the surveillance to catching one child once.
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:Do we know why it was hidden?
Ahh, for that you probably had to read back a bit to where I poseted:
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.
Junior sprog went off on school,camp this morning and is back later in the week. SWMBO decided to do a scan of junior sprogs social media, including a site that junior sprog didn’t realise that SWMBO knew about. Last evening she’d posted a video of herself sculling out of a bottle of wine that she’d nicked from my collection.
SWMBO has downloaded the video and sent it to junior sprog with the message “enjoy camp”.
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.
Ahhh.
Possibly an error to alert said child to knowledge of the video. By this strategy, she has limited the value of the surveillance to catching one child once.
Yeah, Curve did mention that but SWMBO is on the warpath and nothing will get in her way.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:Possibly an error to alert said child to knowledge of the video. By this strategy, she has limited the value of the surveillance to catching one child once.Yeah, Curve did mention that but SWMBO is on the warpath and nothing will get in her way.
LOL
Soooo…. Do we know where the path is leading?
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:Ahh, for that you probably had to read back a bit to where I poseted:
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.
Junior sprog went off on school,camp this morning and is back later in the week. SWMBO decided to do a scan of junior sprogs social media, including a site that junior sprog didn’t realise that SWMBO knew about. Last evening she’d posted a video of herself sculling out of a bottle of wine that she’d nicked from my collection.
SWMBO has downloaded the video and sent it to junior sprog with the message “enjoy camp”.
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.
Ahhh.
Possibly an error to alert said child to knowledge of the video. By this strategy, she has limited the value of the surveillance to catching one child once.
Yeah, Curve did mention that but SWMBO is on the warpath and nothing will get in her way.
The older one is nearly 18 anyway isn’t she? Really only the one younger child to worry about.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:Ahh, for that you probably had to read back a bit to where I poseted:
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.
Junior sprog went off on school,camp this morning and is back later in the week. SWMBO decided to do a scan of junior sprogs social media, including a site that junior sprog didn’t realise that SWMBO knew about. Last evening she’d posted a video of herself sculling out of a bottle of wine that she’d nicked from my collection.
SWMBO has downloaded the video and sent it to junior sprog with the message “enjoy camp”.
Oh dear, Oh fucking dear.
Ahhh.
Possibly an error to alert said child to knowledge of the video. By this strategy, she has limited the value of the surveillance to catching one child once.
Yeah, Curve did mention that but SWMBO is on the warpath and nothing will get in her way.
Poor girl, getting punished for being just like her dad…
Li’l bit graphic.
Sudden explosion of sound from speaker (the ‘on’ light isn’t working properly and the switch is back to front) as a video played automatically.
In reaction I shut down browser so lost post to forum. I was updating the Qld fires situation. Think I’ll just post the link instead.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:Ahhh.
Possibly an error to alert said child to knowledge of the video. By this strategy, she has limited the value of the surveillance to catching one child once.
Yeah, Curve did mention that but SWMBO is on the warpath and nothing will get in her way.
The older one is nearly 18 anyway isn’t she? Really only the one younger child to worry about.
The older one turns 17 next week.
poikilotherm said:
sibeen said:Yeah, Curve did mention that but SWMBO is on the warpath and nothing will get in her way.
Poor girl, getting punished for being just like her dad…
It’s funny that it is not until cornered like this that we find where we stand on some important ‘parenting’ issues. I had a conversation with MumRule a few weeks ago in which I realised that we have wildly different ideas about how to deal with issues. I started to remember how pissed off I was with her for some of the things she did when I was a teenager, and how all she achieved was to damage the relationship.
They tell me the first 40 years are the hardest.
;-)
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:That’s an amateur hiding place.
She has much to learn :)
Do we know why it was hidden?
Because it was stolen?
Oh, too late. I went to warn him and he had already watched.
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_mammals
I wonder where Bubbles, MV and myself are on the list?
:)
Ha!
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:She has much to learn :)
Do we know why it was hidden?
Because it was stolen?
Egad, Buffy. Not like you to be caught out unawares. I thought you started reading from where you left off in chat so you wouldn’t be sprung napping. Read back a few pages and all will be revealed :)
The book of Maccabees only appears in Catholic bibles, apparently.
I’ll investigate further and try a clarify the situation as quickly as I can but at this early stage it looks like it’s true.
Just go about your business as usual because this information my not impact the rest of your life by much at all.
Dinner cooked and eaten. Sour, spicy galangal flower and lots of chunky vegetables soup. 358 kJ per person.
Michael V said:
Dinner cooked and eaten. Sour, spicy galangal flower and lots of chunky vegetables soup. 358 kJ per person.
Do you have a gobag for the beach dash ready?
Peak Warming Man said:
The book of Maccabees only appears in Catholic bibles, apparently.
I’ll investigate further and try a clarify the situation as quickly as I can but at this early stage it looks like it’s true.
Just go about your business as usual because this information my not impact the rest of your life by much at all.
I already knew that and have made the necessary adjustments.
Elder sprog cooked a cottage pie and it was grouse.
Peak Warming Man said:
The book of Maccabees only appears in Catholic bibles, apparently.
I’ll investigate further and try a clarify the situation as quickly as I can but at this early stage it looks like it’s true.
Just go about your business as usual because this information my not impact the rest of your life by much at all.
Isn’t that an apocryphal story?
:)
poikilotherm said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:Ahhh.
Possibly an error to alert said child to knowledge of the video. By this strategy, she has limited the value of the surveillance to catching one child once.
Yeah, Curve did mention that but SWMBO is on the warpath and nothing will get in her way.
Poor girl, getting punished for being just like her dad…
snigger
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:
sibeen said:Yeah, Curve did mention that but SWMBO is on the warpath and nothing will get in her way.
Poor girl, getting punished for being just like her dad…
snigger
SWMBO has just mentioned a cunning plan, and will tell junior sprog that the incriminating video was sent to her.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:Poor girl, getting punished for being just like her dad…
snigger
SWMBO has just mentioned a cunning plan, and will tell junior sprog that the incriminating video was sent to her.
Oh what a web………………
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
Dinner cooked and eaten. Sour, spicy galangal flower and lots of chunky vegetables soup. 358 kJ per person.
Do you have a gobag for the beach dash ready?
Nup. I’ll close and lock windows and doors on the house and get in the car and drive there. I reckon there’s less chance of the house burning down than the car.
poikilotherm said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:Ahhh.
Possibly an error to alert said child to knowledge of the video. By this strategy, she has limited the value of the surveillance to catching one child once.
Yeah, Curve did mention that but SWMBO is on the warpath and nothing will get in her way.
Poor girl, getting punished for being just like her dad…
swmbo doesn’t want two sots in the house.
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The book of Maccabees only appears in Catholic bibles, apparently.
I’ll investigate further and try a clarify the situation as quickly as I can but at this early stage it looks like it’s true.
Just go about your business as usual because this information my not impact the rest of your life by much at all.
Isn’t that an apocryphal story?
:)
Nice one.
:)
sibeen said:
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:Do we know why it was hidden?
Because it was stolen?
Egad, Buffy. Not like you to be caught out unawares. I thought you started reading from where you left off in chat so you wouldn’t be sprung napping. Read back a few pages and all will be revealed :)
OK, so you said “nicked”. Means stolen…
Well, this teacake is scrumptious. Instead of putting the sugar and cinnamon on top, I made a sort of paste and rippled it through the cake. Works well. And the cinnamon and sugar don’t fall off.

buffy said:
Well, this teacake is scrumptious. Instead of putting the sugar and cinnamon on top, I made a sort of paste and rippled it through the cake. Works well. And the cinnamon and sugar don’t fall off.
:)
And why have I spent most of today thinking it is Tuesday?
Possibly because my schedule said biscuit baking was to be on Tuesday, but got moved to today for weather reasons. Tomorrow is haircut and set up photo for the family photo collage (thought Dad had forgotten this year, we are usually asked for The Photo around October, but he emailed yesterday). Then we’ll go to Casterton. Cut grass. Go to the butcher for a stock up. Come back via the chocolate factory.
buffy said:
Well, this teacake is scrumptious. Instead of putting the sugar and cinnamon on top, I made a sort of paste and rippled it through the cake. Works well. And the cinnamon and sugar don’t fall off.
Remember those teacake biscuits, I do and I rooly liked them.
I wouldn’t mind some for Christmas.
sarahs mum said:
Is that an indication of people going red who should be blue?
sarahs mum said:
??
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:Well, this teacake is scrumptious. Instead of putting the sugar and cinnamon on top, I made a sort of paste and rippled it through the cake. Works well. And the cinnamon and sugar don’t fall off.
Remember those teacake biscuits, I do and I rooly liked them.
I wouldn’t mind some for Christmas.
No. What are teacake biscuits?
buffy said:
Well, this teacake is scrumptious. Instead of putting the sugar and cinnamon on top, I made a sort of paste and rippled it through the cake. Works well. And the cinnamon and sugar don’t fall off.
Sounds gorgeous.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
??
Scantily clad women folk in the press gallery offends the senses…
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
Is that an indication of people going red who should be blue?
No. the woman on the right was thrown out of of gov house because she was showing too much skin. She was wearing pants with the outfit.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
??
Why else would respected journalist Patricia Karvelas be marched out of Question Time at Parliament House today for wearing the white shirt shown in our pic? Because she was “showing too much skin”? (Note: she’s wearing black pants, not short shorts or a mini: the “skin” problem was all about her arms.)
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
Is that an indication of people going red who should be blue?
No. the woman on the right was thrown out of of gov house because she was showing too much skin. She was wearing pants with the outfit.
https://twitter.com/PatsKarvelas/status/1069430548190265345?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1069444452433879040&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fhoney.nine.com.au%2F2018%2F12%2F03%2F16%2F48%2Ffemale-journalist-removed-question-time-bare-skin
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
??
Why else would respected journalist Patricia Karvelas be marched out of Question Time at Parliament House today for wearing the white shirt shown in our pic? Because she was “showing too much skin”? (Note: she’s wearing black pants, not short shorts or a mini: the “skin” problem was all about her arms.)
That’s not good.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:Well, this teacake is scrumptious. Instead of putting the sugar and cinnamon on top, I made a sort of paste and rippled it through the cake. Works well. And the cinnamon and sugar don’t fall off.
Remember those teacake biscuits, I do and I rooly liked them.
I wouldn’t mind some for Christmas.
No. What are teacake biscuits?
Sheesh, they are what I call biscuits sold under the commercial name of Paradise Rich Tea.
shakes head
wanders off

Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:??
Why else would respected journalist Patricia Karvelas be marched out of Question Time at Parliament House today for wearing the white shirt shown in our pic? Because she was “showing too much skin”? (Note: she’s wearing black pants, not short shorts or a mini: the “skin” problem was all about her arms.)
That’s not good.
OK, that is obviously ridiculous. What’s with the Bishop photo though? I suspect she didn’t wear that into parliament, although she may have worn it to a function at parliament house?
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:Why else would respected journalist Patricia Karvelas be marched out of Question Time at Parliament House today for wearing the white shirt shown in our pic? Because she was “showing too much skin”? (Note: she’s wearing black pants, not short shorts or a mini: the “skin” problem was all about her arms.)
That’s not good.
OK, that is obviously ridiculous. What’s with the Bishop photo though? I suspect she didn’t wear that into parliament, although she may have worn it to a function at parliament house?
Na. There are lots of photos of her bare armed in parliament. And Pauline Hansen too.
It seems that it is a separate ruling that the press must wear jackets. (Although I am sure no one enforces it day to day until today)
ScoMo is cementing his power, by changing the Libs spill rules:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/liberal-party-passes-leadership-spill-rules/10579172




Michael V said:
ScoMo is cementing his power, by changing the Libs spill rules:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/liberal-party-passes-leadership-spill-rules/10579172
Clever bastard.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:Poor girl, getting punished for being just like her dad…
snigger
SWMBO has just mentioned a cunning plan, and will tell junior sprog that the incriminating video was sent to her.
Be funny if Junior decided to start reading here :)
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
ScoMo is cementing his power, by changing the Libs spill rules:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/liberal-party-passes-leadership-spill-rules/10579172
Clever bastard.
Yeah, like what has happened in Turkey and China etc…
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:snigger
SWMBO has just mentioned a cunning plan, and will tell junior sprog that the incriminating video was sent to her.
Be funny if Junior decided to start reading here :)
Hehehe, who watches the watchers…
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
ScoMo is cementing his power, by changing the Libs spill rules:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/liberal-party-passes-leadership-spill-rules/10579172
Clever bastard.
ROFL.
They’re going to get smashed at the next election, and ScoMo will last about 15 milliseconds after Antony calls it.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:Remember those teacake biscuits, I do and I rooly liked them.
I wouldn’t mind some for Christmas.
No. What are teacake biscuits?
Sheesh, they are what I call biscuits sold under the commercial name of Paradise Rich Tea.
shakes head
wanders off
Never heard of them. But googling suggests something like a chocolate royal is called a teacake?
Sorry, I got sidetracked by the bare arms.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
ScoMo is cementing his power, by changing the Libs spill rules:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/liberal-party-passes-leadership-spill-rules/10579172
Clever bastard.
Yeah, like what has happened in Turkey and China etc…
just copying Labor, but rather convenient timing,
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:SWMBO has just mentioned a cunning plan, and will tell junior sprog that the incriminating video was sent to her.
Be funny if Junior decided to start reading here :)
Hehehe, who watches the watchers…
Not much cahnce of that. I still refer to it as SSSF and doing a search on that will turn up zip.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:No. What are teacake biscuits?
Sheesh, they are what I call biscuits sold under the commercial name of Paradise Rich Tea.
shakes head
wanders off
Never heard of them. But googling suggests something like a chocolate royal is called a teacake?
Sorry, I got sidetracked by the bare arms.
it’s a woman’s right to bare arms!
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
ScoMo is cementing his power, by changing the Libs spill rules:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/liberal-party-passes-leadership-spill-rules/10579172
Clever bastard.
ROFL.
They’re going to get smashed at the next election, and ScoMo will last about 15 milliseconds after Antony calls it.
Yeah, Shorten has already measured the drapes and Albanese is fingers crossed waiting on a serious stumble.
sarahs mum said:
Well, there ya go. I really would have expected that bare arms would have been frowned upon in chambers. If a bloke turned up in a tee-shirt or a singlet I suspect they wouldn’t last long.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
ScoMo is cementing his power, by changing the Libs spill rules:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/liberal-party-passes-leadership-spill-rules/10579172
Clever bastard.
ROFL.
They’re going to get smashed at the next election, and ScoMo will last about 15 milliseconds after Antony calls it.
I wish..I wish..that it would make a lot of difference.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
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Well, there ya go. I really would have expected that bare arms would have been frowned upon in chambers. If a bloke turned up in a tee-shirt or a singlet I suspect they wouldn’t last long.
Um.. 30 odd years ago a Tassie Senator..whose name I should remember..got thrown out for a leather jacket.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
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Well, there ya go. I really would have expected that bare arms would have been frowned upon in chambers. If a bloke turned up in a tee-shirt or a singlet I suspect they wouldn’t last long.
Um.. 30 odd years ago a Tassie Senator..whose name I should remember..got thrown out for a leather jacket.
it was more for the “Colours” on the back.
;-)
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:Clever bastard.
ROFL.
They’re going to get smashed at the next election, and ScoMo will last about 15 milliseconds after Antony calls it.
I wish..I wish..that it would make a lot of difference.
Newspoll, the propaganda arm of the Australian has the coalition losing 20 seats if an election were held today. Shorten would have to slit someone’s throat on live TV to have and even chance of losing.
OK, it’s Labor, they could still fuck this up :)
sibeen said:
OK, it’s Labor, they could still fuck this up :)
yes.
Bogsnorkler said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:Well, there ya go. I really would have expected that bare arms would have been frowned upon in chambers. If a bloke turned up in a tee-shirt or a singlet I suspect they wouldn’t last long.
Um.. 30 odd years ago a Tassie Senator..whose name I should remember..got thrown out for a leather jacket.
it was more for the “Colours” on the back.
;-)
Norm Sanders. democrat.
Don’t turn this photo upside down! – The Thatcher effect highlights a flaw in how our brains work – we can’t process an upside-down face.
Our brains are programmed to recognise faces the right way up. We create a mental map by recognising the face in pieces – eyes, mouth, and nose. So when we’re presented with an upside-down, Thatcherised image, it’s not processed properly.
We know it’s upside down, but because we so rarely encounter upside-down faces, we haven’t evolved to interpret the expressions on them. The facial features look fine, so our brains assume the rest of the face is as well. That’s why we don’t see anything out of the ordinary until we orientate the face accordingly.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
ScoMo is cementing his power, by changing the Libs spill rules:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/liberal-party-passes-leadership-spill-rules/10579172
Clever bastard.
Yeah, like what has happened in Turkey and China etc…
These are internal Libersl party matters. Krudd Mk 2 instituted similar rules for the parliamentary Labor party.

Bogsnorkler said:
Ha, good one.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:ROFL.
They’re going to get smashed at the next election, and ScoMo will last about 15 milliseconds after Antony calls it.
I wish..I wish..that it would make a lot of difference.
Newspoll, the propaganda arm of the Australian has the coalition losing 20 seats if an election were held today. Shorten would have to slit someone’s throat on live TV to have and even chance of losing.
OK, it’s Labor, they could still fuck this up :)
yes.
They will get in. Overwhelmingly. But at some stage the nastiness has to stop and I am not sure they are going to stop being nasty.
Bogsnorkler said:
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Don’t turn this photo upside down! – The Thatcher effect highlights a flaw in how our brains work – we can’t process an upside-down face.
Our brains are programmed to recognise faces the right way up. We create a mental map by recognising the face in pieces – eyes, mouth, and nose. So when we’re presented with an upside-down, Thatcherised image, it’s not processed properly.
We know it’s upside down, but because we so rarely encounter upside-down faces, we haven’t evolved to interpret the expressions on them. The facial features look fine, so our brains assume the rest of the face is as well. That’s why we don’t see anything out of the ordinary until we orientate the face accordingly.
But if we are shown upside down long enough our brains flip.
Bogsnorkler said:
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Don’t turn this photo upside down! – The Thatcher effect highlights a flaw in how our brains work – we can’t process an upside-down face.
Our brains are programmed to recognise faces the right way up. We create a mental map by recognising the face in pieces – eyes, mouth, and nose. So when we’re presented with an upside-down, Thatcherised image, it’s not processed properly.
We know it’s upside down, but because we so rarely encounter upside-down faces, we haven’t evolved to interpret the expressions on them. The facial features look fine, so our brains assume the rest of the face is as well. That’s why we don’t see anything out of the ordinary until we orientate the face accordingly.
Fairly convincing. Why Thatcherised?
Bogsnorkler said:
Grim.
Once again Sanders arrived on his BMW, having ridden it up the Hume Highway, though he bought a new, brown, leather jacket, stating that this better suited his more impressive status as a senator. The change of colour from his usual black did not impress Senate President Doug McClelland, who requested him not to wear it in the chamber.
——
Sanders was able to make fellow MPs sit up, if only to engage him in argument, but he was not suited to the type of party-bound career that is the norm in Australia. He felt constrained by, and had little respect for, party, nor did he seem to have much respect for major party opponents: the ‘Laborials’ as he called them. On one occasion he referred to parliamentary members as ‘drunken bums’, and politics as ‘the worst job I’ve had since cleaning toilets at a Utah ski lodge’. He never accepted the parliamentary culture, and in fact never seemed to gain much satisfaction from his surroundings—he has been described as an ‘anti-politician’. Sanders actually wondered if his parliamentary career had all been a mistake: ‘maybe I would have been better off remaining an activist rather than a politician’. Activists, he believed, held political power by their ability to bring votes to politicians: ‘Support a politician, buy a politician, sell a politician, but never be one’.
http://biography.senate.gov.au/sanders-norman-karl/
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:Sheesh, they are what I call biscuits sold under the commercial name of Paradise Rich Tea.
shakes head
wanders off
Never heard of them. But googling suggests something like a chocolate royal is called a teacake?
Sorry, I got sidetracked by the bare arms.
it’s a woman’s right to bare arms!
I work in bare arms in Summer. Especially when I was visiting in Casterton on 40+ degree days with sweat physically dripping down my back. I recall days when my receptionist and I had wet towels ready to put over ourselves between patients. And I’ve been doing it for nearly 40 years. Parliament must be very backward.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:I wish..I wish..that it would make a lot of difference.
Newspoll, the propaganda arm of the Australian has the coalition losing 20 seats if an election were held today. Shorten would have to slit someone’s throat on live TV to have and even chance of losing.
OK, it’s Labor, they could still fuck this up :)
yes.
They will get in. Overwhelmingly. But at some stage the nastiness has to stop and I am not sure they are going to stop being nasty.
It’s OK, one Labor get in it will be all sweetness and light and sunlit uplands. Nary a bad word amongst colleges and international relations at an all time high. Refugees will be freed, island detentions closed and world wide nuclear disarmament commenced.
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
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Don’t turn this photo upside down! – The Thatcher effect highlights a flaw in how our brains work – we can’t process an upside-down face.
Our brains are programmed to recognise faces the right way up. We create a mental map by recognising the face in pieces – eyes, mouth, and nose. So when we’re presented with an upside-down, Thatcherised image, it’s not processed properly.
We know it’s upside down, but because we so rarely encounter upside-down faces, we haven’t evolved to interpret the expressions on them. The facial features look fine, so our brains assume the rest of the face is as well. That’s why we don’t see anything out of the ordinary until we orientate the face accordingly.
Fairly convincing. Why Thatcherised?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thatcher_effect
It is named after the late British prime minister Margaret Thatcher, on whose photograph the effect was first demonstrated. The effect was originally created in 1980 by Peter Thompson, Professor of Psychology at the University of York.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:Newspoll, the propaganda arm of the Australian has the coalition losing 20 seats if an election were held today. Shorten would have to slit someone’s throat on live TV to have and even chance of losing.
OK, it’s Labor, they could still fuck this up :)
yes.
They will get in. Overwhelmingly. But at some stage the nastiness has to stop and I am not sure they are going to stop being nasty.
It’s OK, one Labor get in it will be all sweetness and light and sunlit uplands. Nary a bad word amongst colleges and international relations at an all time high. Refugees will be freed, island detentions closed and world wide nuclear disarmament commenced.
say it like you mean it!
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:yes.
They will get in. Overwhelmingly. But at some stage the nastiness has to stop and I am not sure they are going to stop being nasty.
It’s OK, one Labor get in it will be all sweetness and light and sunlit uplands. Nary a bad word amongst colleges and international relations at an all time high. Refugees will be freed, island detentions closed and world wide nuclear disarmament commenced.
say it like you mean it!
I’m not sure I could pull that off.
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:It’s OK, one Labor get in it will be all sweetness and light and sunlit uplands. Nary a bad word amongst colleges and international relations at an all time high. Refugees will be freed, island detentions closed and world wide nuclear disarmament commenced.
say it like you mean it!
I’m not sure I could pull that off.
TWSS.
channelling stumpy there.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:Newspoll, the propaganda arm of the Australian has the coalition losing 20 seats if an election were held today. Shorten would have to slit someone’s throat on live TV to have and even chance of losing.
OK, it’s Labor, they could still fuck this up :)
yes.
They will get in. Overwhelmingly. But at some stage the nastiness has to stop and I am not sure they are going to stop being nasty.
It’s OK, one Labor get in it will be all sweetness and light and sunlit uplands. Nary a bad word amongst colleges and international relations at an all time high. Refugees will be freed, island detentions closed and world wide nuclear disarmament commenced.
That Indue card. You can use it at some of the better boutiques to buy expensive clothes. But you can’t use it at the markets of the op shop to buy a second hand top. Neither the libs or Labs understand living on stuff all.
People on benefits tend to buy second hand cars not new ones. The week they buy a beat up second hand car they need more than 20% of their income in cash.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:yes.
They will get in. Overwhelmingly. But at some stage the nastiness has to stop and I am not sure they are going to stop being nasty.
It’s OK, one Labor get in it will be all sweetness and light and sunlit uplands. Nary a bad word amongst colleges and international relations at an all time high. Refugees will be freed, island detentions closed and world wide nuclear disarmament commenced.
That Indue card. You can use it at some of the better boutiques to buy expensive clothes. But you can’t use it at the markets of the op shop to buy a second hand top. Neither the libs or Labs understand living on stuff all.
People on benefits tend to buy second hand cars not new ones. The week they buy a beat up second hand car they need more than 20% of their income in cash.
Jacinta Price wrote a good article which mentioned that in passing but unfortunately it was in The Australian.
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:say it like you mean it!
I’m not sure I could pull that off.
TWSS.
channelling stumpy there.
raises glass
Bogsnorkler said:
I don’t get it.
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
I don’t get it.
Google the Donner party.
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
I don’t get it.
the donner party. cannibals. USA. date and place mentioned.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
I don’t get it.
the donner party. cannibals. USA. date and place mentioned.
when they cooked the meat they didn’t have a grill so they stuck it on skewers and that is how we got donner kebabs.
buffy said:
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:Never heard of them. But googling suggests something like a chocolate royal is called a teacake?
Sorry, I got sidetracked by the bare arms.
it’s a woman’s right to bare arms!
I work in bare arms in Summer. Especially when I was visiting in Casterton on 40+ degree days with sweat physically dripping down my back. I recall days when my receptionist and I had wet towels ready to put over ourselves between patients. And I’ve been doing it for nearly 40 years. Parliament must be very backward.
“Parliament must be very backward.”
You’ve got that correct.
In total there are around 360,000 families with children, Australia’s poorest, who are getting considerably less financial support.
It has happened as a result of actions by both sides of politics under prime ministers Howard, Rudd, Gillard, Abbott and Turnbull.
https://theconversation.com/its-not-just-newstart-single-parents-are-271-per-fortnight-worse-off-labor-needs-an-overarching-welfare-review-107521
So much for no child living in poverty.
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
I don’t get it.
The Donner party is a terrible read. There are a few diaries. Each one is grim.
Bogsnorkler said:
Watch out for the vampires.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
I don’t get it.
the donner party. cannibals. USA. date and place mentioned.
there was that rescuer who when he turned up the first thing he saw was the kid on the roof chewing on a human bone.
fing terrible stuff.
But when you read it there is a continual set of choices made and everyone was the bad choice. It is sort of interesting although it is graphically awful.
OK, the work experience kid finally got around to uploading the story to the ABC website.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/why-was-patricia-karvelas-kicked-out-of-question-time/10579052
As I thought, if you’re a bloke, no jacket then piss off.
AwesomeO said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
I don’t get it.
Google the Donner party.
OK. Thanks. Never heard of that episode in American history before.
sarahs mum said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:I don’t get it.
the donner party. cannibals. USA. date and place mentioned.
there was that rescuer who when he turned up the first thing he saw was the kid on the roof chewing on a human bone.
fing terrible stuff.
But when you read it there is a continual set of choices made and everyone was the bad choice. It is sort of interesting although it is graphically awful.
Eating the indians who brought them food. That was a bad choice. They don’t talk about that at Thanksgiving.
Michael V said:
AwesomeO said:
Michael V said:I don’t get it.
Google the Donner party.
OK. Thanks. Never heard of that episode in American history before.
The first American transatlantic railway (which is a tops read itself) went though the Donner pass and for many years whilst there was still stuff scattered around the site was a tourist attraction.
AwesomeO said:
Michael V said:
AwesomeO said:Google the Donner party.
OK. Thanks. Never heard of that episode in American history before.
The first American transatlantic railway (which is a tops read itself) went though the Donner pass and for many years whilst there was still stuff scattered around the site was a tourist attraction.
Brett owns a rocking chair that was bought off a donner party survivor. Quite happy that I am not living with it anymore.
sibeen said:
OK, the work experience kid finally got around to uploading the story to the ABC website.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/why-was-patricia-karvelas-kicked-out-of-question-time/10579052
As I thought, if you’re a bloke, no jacket then piss off.
what if you turned up in a Star Wars stormtrooper costume?
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
OK, the work experience kid finally got around to uploading the story to the ABC website.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/why-was-patricia-karvelas-kicked-out-of-question-time/10579052
As I thought, if you’re a bloke, no jacket then piss off.
what if you turned up in a Star Wars stormtrooper costume?
No props. Except coal.
sarahs mum said:
AwesomeO said:
Michael V said:OK. Thanks. Never heard of that episode in American history before.
The first American transatlantic railway (which is a tops read itself) went though the Donner pass and for many years whilst there was still stuff scattered around the site was a tourist attraction.
Brett owns a rocking chair that was bought off a donner party survivor. Quite happy that I am not living with it anymore.
There was an American farmer whose name escapes me who had a property involved in the first battle of the Civil war and to escape the war he moved far away, but not far enough, the surrender ended up being signed in his front room. So that is remarkable enough but the funny part (and the rocking chair reminded me) is his first place was trashed by the first battle, his last place was trashed and his furniture stolen at the signing of the surrender by souvenir hunters.
sibeen said:
OK, the work experience kid finally got around to uploading the story to the ABC website.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/why-was-patricia-karvelas-kicked-out-of-question-time/10579052
As I thought, if you’re a bloke, no jacket then piss off.
The rules do seem just a tiny bit old fashioned, for people of all genders.
Later, McLean is supposed to have said “The war began in my front yard and ended in my front parlor.”
What are the odds
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilmer_McLean
AwesomeO said:
sarahs mum said:
AwesomeO said:The first American transatlantic railway (which is a tops read itself) went though the Donner pass and for many years whilst there was still stuff scattered around the site was a tourist attraction.
Brett owns a rocking chair that was bought off a donner party survivor. Quite happy that I am not living with it anymore.
There was an American farmer whose name escapes me who had a property involved in the first battle of the Civil war and to escape the war he moved far away, but not far enough, the surrender ended up being signed in his front room. So that is remarkable enough but the funny part (and the rocking chair reminded me) is his first place was trashed by the first battle, his last place was trashed and his furniture stolen at the signing of the surrender by souvenir hunters.
Wilmer McLean
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilmer_McLean#First_Battle_of_Bull_Run
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilmer_McLean#Appomattox_Court_House
AwesomeO said:
sarahs mum said:
AwesomeO said:The first American transatlantic railway (which is a tops read itself) went though the Donner pass and for many years whilst there was still stuff scattered around the site was a tourist attraction.
Brett owns a rocking chair that was bought off a donner party survivor. Quite happy that I am not living with it anymore.
There was an American farmer whose name escapes me who had a property involved in the first battle of the Civil war and to escape the war he moved far away, but not far enough, the surrender ended up being signed in his front room. So that is remarkable enough but the funny part (and the rocking chair reminded me) is his first place was trashed by the first battle, his last place was trashed and his furniture stolen at the signing of the surrender by souvenir hunters.
… and then turned into a museum.
AwesomeO said:
Later, McLean is supposed to have said “The war began in my front yard and ended in my front parlor.”What are the odds
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilmer_McLean
Pretty bloody amazing…
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:
sarahs mum said:Brett owns a rocking chair that was bought off a donner party survivor. Quite happy that I am not living with it anymore.
There was an American farmer whose name escapes me who had a property involved in the first battle of the Civil war and to escape the war he moved far away, but not far enough, the surrender ended up being signed in his front room. So that is remarkable enough but the funny part (and the rocking chair reminded me) is his first place was trashed by the first battle, his last place was trashed and his furniture stolen at the signing of the surrender by souvenir hunters.
… and then turned into a museum.
Well, a reconstruction anyway…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLean_House_(Appomattox,_Virginia)
buffy said:
Watched Dr Who. And indeed, as they said, they are stand alone episodes. I quite like that.
Food is now in the oven. Smells good.
This was a good episode. Genuinely tense and emotional, actually interesting from a sci-fi point of view, genuine twists, nice tie in with “The Woman Who Fell To Earth”. Minded me a bit of Father’s Day.
This season’s humour has been pretty subdued. I appreciate the focus on real historical events, a bit like the Hartnell era like that. But I do like a nice complex story arc typified by Series 5 or 9. And they really have nixed the callbacks. Can they chuck us a nostalgic bone?
Ah well they’ve got one more episode to stick the landing.
Bump.
dv said:
buffy said:Watched Dr Who. And indeed, as they said, they are stand alone episodes. I quite like that.
Food is now in the oven. Smells good.
This was a good episode. Genuinely tense and emotional, actually interesting from a sci-fi point of view, genuine twists, nice tie in with “The Woman Who Fell To Earth”. Minded me a bit of Father’s Day.
This season’s humour has been pretty subdued. I appreciate the focus on real historical events, a bit like the Hartnell era like that. But I do like a nice complex story arc typified by Series 5 or 9. And they really have nixed the callbacks. Can they chuck us a nostalgic bone?
Ah well they’ve got one more episode to stick the landing.
and the absence of Murray Gold’s music isn’t helping
dv said:
dv said:
buffy said:Watched Dr Who. And indeed, as they said, they are stand alone episodes. I quite like that.
Food is now in the oven. Smells good.
This was a good episode. Genuinely tense and emotional, actually interesting from a sci-fi point of view, genuine twists, nice tie in with “The Woman Who Fell To Earth”. Minded me a bit of Father’s Day.
This season’s humour has been pretty subdued. I appreciate the focus on real historical events, a bit like the Hartnell era like that. But I do like a nice complex story arc typified by Series 5 or 9. And they really have nixed the callbacks. Can they chuck us a nostalgic bone?
Ah well they’ve got one more episode to stick the landing.
and the absence of Murray Gold’s music isn’t helping
I’ll give them some props for using a blind actress and showing her eyes uncovered.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
OK, the work experience kid finally got around to uploading the story to the ABC website.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/why-was-patricia-karvelas-kicked-out-of-question-time/10579052
As I thought, if you’re a bloke, no jacket then piss off.
The rules do seem just a tiny bit old fashioned, for people of all genders.
Barnaby was waxing lyrical about genders earlier today.
dv said:
dv said:
buffy said:Watched Dr Who. And indeed, as they said, they are stand alone episodes. I quite like that.
Food is now in the oven. Smells good.
This was a good episode. Genuinely tense and emotional, actually interesting from a sci-fi point of view, genuine twists, nice tie in with “The Woman Who Fell To Earth”. Minded me a bit of Father’s Day.
This season’s humour has been pretty subdued. I appreciate the focus on real historical events, a bit like the Hartnell era like that. But I do like a nice complex story arc typified by Series 5 or 9. And they really have nixed the callbacks. Can they chuck us a nostalgic bone?
Ah well they’ve got one more episode to stick the landing.
and the absence of Murray Gold’s music isn’t helping
I looked Murray Gold up.
I didn’t know that Ron Grainger wrote the theme for Dr Who. And that he was brought up in a NQ coal mining village that had had a huge mining disaster.
I remember listening to a Ron Grainger retrospective on radio in my shed in Armidale. It seemed he was interested in new sounds.
Witty Rejoinder said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
OK, the work experience kid finally got around to uploading the story to the ABC website.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/why-was-patricia-karvelas-kicked-out-of-question-time/10579052
As I thought, if you’re a bloke, no jacket then piss off.
The rules do seem just a tiny bit old fashioned, for people of all genders.
Barnaby was waxing lyrical about genders earlier today.
Was he now?
What did he say?
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
The Rev Dodgson said:The rules do seem just a tiny bit old fashioned, for people of all genders.
Barnaby was waxing lyrical about genders earlier today.
Was he now?
What did he say?
Something about the XX and the XY. Riveting stuff. Can’t find a clip so i can only assume that it was one of the least interesting things he said today.
Michael V said:
dv said:
dv said:This was a good episode. Genuinely tense and emotional, actually interesting from a sci-fi point of view, genuine twists, nice tie in with “The Woman Who Fell To Earth”. Minded me a bit of Father’s Day.
This season’s humour has been pretty subdued. I appreciate the focus on real historical events, a bit like the Hartnell era like that. But I do like a nice complex story arc typified by Series 5 or 9. And they really have nixed the callbacks. Can they chuck us a nostalgic bone?
Ah well they’ve got one more episode to stick the landing.
and the absence of Murray Gold’s music isn’t helping
I looked Murray Gold up.
I didn’t know that Ron Grainger wrote the theme for Dr Who. And that he was brought up in a NQ coal mining village that had had a huge mining disaster.
I remember listening to a Ron Grainger retrospective on radio in my shed in Armidale. It seemed he was interested in new sounds.
Wrong? Was I thinking of Percy Grainger (because “English Country Garden” came to mind)? Was I mixing memories of the the two Graingers? I don’t know. I really don’t know.
Professional tip: don’t get old. One’s memory fails.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Barnaby was waxing lyrical about genders earlier today.
Was he now?
What did he say?
Something about the XX and the XY. Riveting stuff. Can’t find a clip so i can only assume that it was one of the least interesting things he said today.
Barnaby (Who’d call their baby boy Barnaby, anyway? – cruel parents!) was never known for saying interesting things. Controversial things, yes. Interesting things – no.
Michael V said:
Professional tip: don’t get old.
I’d quite like to if that’s okay.
pop the kettle on sweetie
Michael V said:
I looked Murray Gold up.
He gave a lot of attention to each main character having a theme, but managed to play it subtly.
This is Gallifrey might well be my favourite piece of music ever written for television.
dv said:
Michael V said:Professional tip: don’t get old.
I’d quite like to if that’s okay.
It’s not necessarily fun. Much of it isn’t. Be warned then.
transition said:
pop the kettle on sweetie
XXX OOO …
Michael V said:
dv said:
Michael V said:Professional tip: don’t get old.
I’d quite like to if that’s okay.
It’s not necessarily fun. Much of it isn’t. Be warned then.
Well given that the alternative is dying soon…
landed
dv said:
Michael V said:
dv said:I’d quite like to if that’s okay.
It’s not necessarily fun. Much of it isn’t. Be warned then.
Well given that the alternative is dying soon…
And that could be potentially better.
Michael V said:
I didn’t know that Ron Grainger wrote the theme for Dr Who.
Grainer
dv said:
Michael V said:I looked Murray Gold up.
He gave a lot of attention to each main character having a theme, but managed to play it subtly.
This is Gallifrey might well be my favourite piece of music ever written for television.
It doesn’t grab me that way. It’s OK, but nothing special. Sorry.
transition said:
landed
:)
Michael V said:
dv said:
Michael V said:I looked Murray Gold up.
He gave a lot of attention to each main character having a theme, but managed to play it subtly.
This is Gallifrey might well be my favourite piece of music ever written for television.
It doesn’t grab me that way. It’s OK, but nothing special. Sorry.
No need to apologise, these things are inherently subjective.
dv said:
Michael V said:
dv said:He gave a lot of attention to each main character having a theme, but managed to play it subtly.
This is Gallifrey might well be my favourite piece of music ever written for television.
It doesn’t grab me that way. It’s OK, but nothing special. Sorry.
No need to apologise, these things are inherently subjective.
I disagree.
dv said:
Michael V said:I didn’t know that Ron Grainger wrote the theme for Dr Who.
Grainer
See?
I’m hating this losing my mind thing. I didn’t even see that.
Witty is the one who needs to apologise.
dv said:
Witty is the one who needs to apologise.
:)
dv said:
Witty is the one who needs to apologise.
For oh so many things… That Doonesbury you posted yesterday: I couldn’t really work out the significance of the storm clouds. What was your take?
dv: Now that you’re well ensconced in Perth, have you come across Dave Lawie ?
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
Witty is the one who needs to apologise.
For oh so many things… That Doonesbury you posted yesterday: I couldn’t really work out the significance of the storm clouds. What was your take?
Okay, so obv, explaining the joke will kill it but so be it.
The speaker on the right says, “I like beer! Do you like beer? Do you ever black out? I don’t.” It looks as though they are wearing black garments with big lapels: gowns, perhaps.
One of the major stories of the second half of the year was the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh and subsequent investigation of assault allegations. He someone famously and irately “Yes we drank beer, my friends and I, boys and girls. Yes, we drank beer, I like beer, I still like beer, we drank beer. … Yeah, we drank beer, and I said sometimes, sometimes probably had too many beers, and sometimes other people had too many beers. We drank beer, I like beer” and on and on. When questioned by a Senator, “You’re saying there’s never been a case where you drank so much that you didn’t remember what happened the night before or part of what happened?”, he yelled “If you’re asking about blackout. I don’t know, have you?”
So the figure on the right is Kavanaugh.
In the course of this testimony, Kavanaugh demonstrably perjured himself several times, including easily proven lies about the timing of his knowledge of the accusation, and this is in fact a matter of an ongoing ethics investigation by the Tenth Circuit court. The accusations themselves by Ford were investigated by the FBI, but most of the relevant witnesses were not contacted and ultimately it would never be possible to prove the assault occurred, but her establishment of a record of the complaint in 2012, long before Kavanaugh was considered for this prominent position, means the matter has not been resolved definitively.
So although he will almost remain on the court until he dies, presumably some time around 2050, he is figuratively “under a cloud”.
The person on the left, then, is Justice Clarence Thomas. His nomination process was marred by sexual harrassment allegations, by Professor Anita Hill who worked with him, allegations that were in part supported by written testimony of other witnesses. Thomas appears to have perjured himself when discussing the allegations under oath to the Judiciary Committee, disclaiming behaviour that was well-attested by witnesses. So he’s under a very similar cloud.
Is Doonesbury’s point there.
Michael V said:
dv: Now that you’re well ensconced in Perth, have you come across Dave Lawie ?
The name does not ring a bell
dv said:
Michael V said:
dv: Now that you’re well ensconced in Perth, have you come across Dave Lawie ?
The name does not ring a bell
Ah. Ok. Geochemist and geostatistician. Imdex. If you do run into him say g’day from me.
Ahhhh yes. Under a cloud makes perfect sense.
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
??
Why else would respected journalist Patricia Karvelas be marched out of Question Time at Parliament House today for wearing the white shirt shown in our pic? Because she was “showing too much skin”? (Note: she’s wearing black pants, not short shorts or a mini: the “skin” problem was all about her arms.)
It excites most members of the National Party and some Liberals.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 10 degrees and light high cloud. Forecast a 20. Thursday 35, Friday 34. Yuck. But I will be at work with the aircon on for those days. And wearing a sleeveless dress.
PermeateFree said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:??
Why else would respected journalist Patricia Karvelas be marched out of Question Time at Parliament House today for wearing the white shirt shown in our pic? Because she was “showing too much skin”? (Note: she’s wearing black pants, not short shorts or a mini: the “skin” problem was all about her arms.)
It excites most members of the National Party and some Liberals.
They threw her oout because she was a reporter from the ABC. Nothing to do with skin.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 10 degrees and light high cloud. Forecast a 20. Thursday 35, Friday 34. Yuck. But I will be at work with the aircon on for those days. And wearing a sleeveless dress.
Morning. We have 19 today and 28 for Thursday & Friday, so not quite as bad. And this house has air conditioning.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:Good morning Holidayers. Presently 10 degrees and light high cloud. Forecast a 20. Thursday 35, Friday 34. Yuck. But I will be at work with the aircon on for those days. And wearing a sleeveless dress.
Morning. We have 19 today and 28 for Thursday & Friday, so not quite as bad. And this house has air conditioning.
Ours is going to be hitting 40 by Saturday. So summer is announcing that it is on.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:Good morning Holidayers. Presently 10 degrees and light high cloud. Forecast a 20. Thursday 35, Friday 34. Yuck. But I will be at work with the aircon on for those days. And wearing a sleeveless dress.
Morning. We have 19 today and 28 for Thursday & Friday, so not quite as bad. And this house has air conditioning.
Ours is going to be hitting 40 by Saturday. So summer is announcing that it is on.
Madness.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 10 degrees and light high cloud. Forecast a 20. Thursday 35, Friday 34. Yuck. But I will be at work with the aircon on for those days. And wearing a sleeveless dress.
You might get swiftly escorted out.
Good morning everybody.
Very warm and very humid again (24.3°C, 83% RH). Overcast, hazy and calm. Strong stinky fire smell.
There’s still a yellow alert on the bushfire, but there’s no longer 15 vehicles attending and water-bombers. Just one vehicle for the moment. I reckon the water bombing was a marvel. It may have covered us in ash, but it slowed the fire heaps, from what I can see. Unfortunately the cloud cover doesn’t allow me to assess the fire from satellite imagery today. I’ll check the fire’s status regularly throughout the day.
Meanwhile, there’s jobs on my list…
Morning, clear and sunny in the Styx, heading for a balmy 24 today.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 10 degrees and light high cloud. Forecast a 20. Thursday 35, Friday 34. Yuck. But I will be at work with the aircon on for those days. And wearing a sleeveless dress.
How dare you?
I hope you will at least be wearing a collar and tie.
Michael V said:
buffy said:Good morning Holidayers. Presently 10 degrees and light high cloud. Forecast a 20. Thursday 35, Friday 34. Yuck. But I will be at work with the aircon on for those days. And wearing a sleeveless dress.
You might get swiftly escorted out.
I’ll have to escort myself out, will I? Our dress code is neat and comfortable.
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:Morning. We have 19 today and 28 for Thursday & Friday, so not quite as bad. And this house has air conditioning.
Ours is going to be hitting 40 by Saturday. So summer is announcing that it is on.
Madness.
Nup. Australia
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:Ours is going to be hitting 40 by Saturday. So summer is announcing that it is on.
Madness.
Nup. Australia
There’s a pharmacy for sale at Halls Creek, NT. Looked at the temps out of curiosity … seems it is pretty much 40 degrees year round through the day.
Michael V said:
…I reckon the water bombing was a marvel. It may have covered us in ash, but it slowed the fire heaps, from what I can see. Unfortunately the cloud cover doesn’t allow me to assess the fire from satellite imagery today. I’ll check the fire’s status regularly throughout the day.
That’s a thing. Large fires produce their own local weather and cloud is a very common feature of it.
Glad to see the Fireys seem to be getting a handle on it.
Pyrocumulus clouds.
It’s a thing…
buffy said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:Good morning Holidayers. Presently 10 degrees and light high cloud. Forecast a 20. Thursday 35, Friday 34. Yuck. But I will be at work with the aircon on for those days. And wearing a sleeveless dress.
You might get swiftly escorted out.
I’ll have to escort myself out, will I? Our dress code is neat and comfortable.
Oh, the outrage!
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:Madness.
Nup. Australia
There’s a pharmacy for sale at Halls Creek, NT. Looked at the temps out of curiosity … seems it is pretty much 40 degrees year round through the day.
NT or WA?
Michael V said:
Meanwhile, there’s jobs on my list…
Big jobs?
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:
Pyrocumulus clouds.It’s a thing…
So sort of like volcanoes do?
I don’t know whether the process is the same, but yes.
I’m off to sort out some spinach and red Russian kale plants and put out a few more tomato plants. I’m sure the 18 I have in so far is not enough…another 6 now. And then I also have my Trial Tomato to put in. I’ve got seedlings of something called a Tasmanian tomato. I want to see if it is worth using here.
https://www.diggers.com.au/shop/vegetables/tomato-tasmanian-chocolate-new/s2412/
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:…I reckon the water bombing was a marvel. It may have covered us in ash, but it slowed the fire heaps, from what I can see. Unfortunately the cloud cover doesn’t allow me to assess the fire from satellite imagery today. I’ll check the fire’s status regularly throughout the day.
That’s a thing. Large fires produce their own local weather and cloud is a very common feature of it.
Glad to see the Fireys seem to be getting a handle on it.
Me too. Life could’ve gotten a fair bit more exciting had they not got a handle on it. But I don’t like big fires. I wasn’t worried, because I have a plan to close and lock windows and doors then evacuate to the ocean, taking nothing with me except the house key and the car to get us there quickly.
Rule 303 said:
Pyrocumulus clouds.It’s a thing…
Yeah, thanks.
I have seen them years ago at major fires south of Sydney.
Interestingly, there is a similar phenomenon attached to volcanic eruptions too. Much lightning in those as well. Electrons get rubbed off ash particles. Also, rain causes accretionary lapilli (water+ash balls) to form, and they hail out of those storms.
In rock:

In hand, after an eruption:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Pyrocumulus clouds.It’s a thing…
Yeah, thanks.
I have seen them years ago at major fires south of Sydney.
Interestingly, there is a similar phenomenon attached to volcanic eruptions too. Much lightning in those as well. Electrons get rubbed off ash particles. Also, rain causes accretionary lapilli (water+ash balls) to form, and they hail out of those storms.
In rock:
In hand, after an eruption:
Interesting. Thank you.
Woodie said:
Michael V said:Meanwhile, there’s jobs on my list…
Big jobs?
There’s quite a few of those. But I’m tackling the little jobs first. In the cool of the morning and evening. Middle of the day is fan-sitting time…
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:Nup. Australia
There’s a pharmacy for sale at Halls Creek, NT. Looked at the temps out of curiosity … seems it is pretty much 40 degrees year round through the day.
NT or WA?
Hey Poik, looks like that head torch I bought is a real one. Their ‘customer support’ people checked the serial number and declared it so. Do you have more than one battery for yours?
poikilotherm said:
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:There’s a pharmacy for sale at Halls Creek, NT. Looked at the temps out of curiosity … seems it is pretty much 40 degrees year round through the day.
NT or WA?
Er, WA.
Not a super-nice town to live in, I’d imagine. I have stayed there. IIRC, most shop windows are barred. The town’s dirty (rubbish etc) and lot of people hang around doing nothing, because there’s so little to do in town and bugger all work is available.
Plenty of regional fat-bike exploration to do in your out of work hours if that takes your fancy. Interesting mountain ranges etc. Is the business cheap?
Rule 303 said:
Hey Poik, looks like that head torch I bought is a real one. Their ‘customer support’ people checked the serial number and declared it so. Do you have more than one battery for yours?
Good news. I have three, two 3500mAh and one 2600mAh (I also have a bicycle light that uses the same though).
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:
Michael V said:NT or WA?
Er, WA.Not a super-nice town to live in, I’d imagine. I have stayed there. IIRC, most shop windows are barred. The town’s dirty (rubbish etc) and lot of people hang around doing nothing, because there’s so little to do in town and bugger all work is available.
Plenty of regional fat-bike exploration to do in your out of work hours if that takes your fancy. Interesting mountain ranges etc. Is the business cheap?
Yes, and it appears to make quite the $$ if the numbers haven’t been fudged…as in, if I could stand 5-10 years of it, I wouldn’t have to work afterwards.
Rule 303 said:
Hey Poik, looks like that head torch I bought is a real one. Their ‘customer support’ people checked the serial number and declared it so. Do you have more than one battery for yours?
Did you buy it from a dodgy ebay store or something?
poikilotherm said:
Rule 303 said:
Hey Poik, looks like that head torch I bought is a real one. Their ‘customer support’ people checked the serial number and declared it so. Do you have more than one battery for yours?
Good news. I have three, two 3500mAh and one 2600mAh (I also have a bicycle light that uses the same though).
Nice.
I saw a real taser torch the other day. Electrodes in the ring around the face. F’n frightening.
8-0
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Hey Poik, looks like that head torch I bought is a real one. Their ‘customer support’ people checked the serial number and declared it so. Do you have more than one battery for yours?
Did you buy it from a dodgy ebay store or something?
Yeah, the manufacturer’s website listed the eBay retailer as possibly dodgy.
Rule 303 said:
poikilotherm said:
Rule 303 said:
Hey Poik, looks like that head torch I bought is a real one. Their ‘customer support’ people checked the serial number and declared it so. Do you have more than one battery for yours?
Good news. I have three, two 3500mAh and one 2600mAh (I also have a bicycle light that uses the same though).
Nice.
I saw a real taser torch the other day. Electrodes in the ring around the face. F’n frightening.
8-0
Wouldn’t mind a taser at work.
poikilotherm said:
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:Er, WA.
Not a super-nice town to live in, I’d imagine. I have stayed there. IIRC, most shop windows are barred. The town’s dirty (rubbish etc) and lot of people hang around doing nothing, because there’s so little to do in town and bugger all work is available.
Plenty of regional fat-bike exploration to do in your out of work hours if that takes your fancy. Interesting mountain ranges etc. Is the business cheap?
Yes, and it appears to make quite the $$ if the numbers haven’t been fudged…as in, if I could stand 5-10 years of it, I wouldn’t have to work afterwards.
You should go up there and take a look then. It’s well different. It’s well isolated. It has the problems I alluded to earlier. There’s nuggetty gold in the region (think metal detecting). While you’re there, go check out Wolfe Creek Meteorite Crater. It’s big and very well preserved.
Michael V said:
Not a super-nice town to live in, I’d imagine. I have stayed there. IIRC, most shop windows are barred. The town’s dirty (rubbish etc) and lot of people hang around doing nothing, because there’s so little to do in town and bugger all work is available.
Drove through it in 2000. Didn’t even slow down.
Looked scruffy as hell.
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Hey Poik, looks like that head torch I bought is a real one. Their ‘customer support’ people checked the serial number and declared it so. Do you have more than one battery for yours?
Did you buy it from a dodgy ebay store or something?
Yeah, the manufacturer’s website listed the eBay retailer as possibly dodgy.
:)
I’ve never owned one before, so I bought a cheap ($5) one at Bunnings to try. I’m surprised how good and how useful it is. Also, Bunnings have stick-on wall lights for $4. Perfect for blackouts etc. I’ll be buying several more of them.

Nice tribute to Paul Sherwen. Seems his death was heart failure, in his sleep.
https://cyclingtips.com/2018/12/the-weekly-spin-why-paul-sherwens-death-hurts/
sarahs mum said:
That looks a difficult jigsaw.
Is this brother John? Are you over there yet?
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
That looks a difficult jigsaw.
Is this brother John? Are you over there yet?
No. I have friends doing the Maatsuyker job for six months.They are doing jigsaws on the unpleasant days. On the better days there is about 6 acres of mowing to do and various drains to tend to and a vegi graden to keep together. (Aside from the weather stuff.) Dianne is also using the environment to work some etching plates.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
That looks a difficult jigsaw.
Is this brother John? Are you over there yet?
No. I have friends doing the Maatsuyker job for six months.They are doing jigsaws on the unpleasant days. On the better days there is about 6 acres of mowing to do and various drains to tend to and a vegi graden to keep together. (Aside from the weather stuff.) Dianne is also using the environment to work some etching plates.
Ah :)
sarahs mum said:
On the better days there is about 6 acres of mowing to do
And Buffy couldn’t post for 10 minutes…
I’m off for a shower then a much-needed walk. Little exercise lately due to the weather, but today seems pleasant enough.
Witty Rejoinder said:
sarahs mum said:On the better days there is about 6 acres of mowing to doAnd Buffy couldn’t post for 10 minutes…
15, you forgot about the weeding.
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:Did you buy it from a dodgy ebay store or something?
Yeah, the manufacturer’s website listed the eBay retailer as possibly dodgy.
:)
I’ve never owned one before, so I bought a cheap ($5) one at Bunnings to try. I’m surprised how good and how useful it is. Also, Bunnings have stick-on wall lights for $4. Perfect for blackouts etc. I’ll be buying several more of them.
i got one of those $5 bunnings jobbies. also have the genny going atm. power out. been out for quite a few hours. was out a few hours yesterday arvo as well. they don’t know when it’ll be back on.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:Yeah, the manufacturer’s website listed the eBay retailer as possibly dodgy.
:)
I’ve never owned one before, so I bought a cheap ($5) one at Bunnings to try. I’m surprised how good and how useful it is. Also, Bunnings have stick-on wall lights for $4. Perfect for blackouts etc. I’ll be buying several more of them.
i got one of those $5 bunnings jobbies. also have the genny going atm. power out. been out for quite a few hours. was out a few hours yesterday arvo as well. they don’t know when it’ll be back on.
Genset size and type?
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said::)
I’ve never owned one before, so I bought a cheap ($5) one at Bunnings to try. I’m surprised how good and how useful it is. Also, Bunnings have stick-on wall lights for $4. Perfect for blackouts etc. I’ll be buying several more of them.
i got one of those $5 bunnings jobbies. also have the genny going atm. power out. been out for quite a few hours. was out a few hours yesterday arvo as well. they don’t know when it’ll be back on.
Genset size and type?
honda, inverter, 2kva. ~$2000.
http://www.gocampingaustralia.com/honda-eu20i-generator-review.html
Greetings
Witty Rejoinder said:
sarahs mum said:On the better days there is about 6 acres of mowing to doAnd Buffy couldn’t post for 10 minutes…
How do you do a raspberry sound on this thing?!
Anyway, I was just thinking of you, Witty. My family does a Christmas photo every year – we started in 1974 and I don’t think we have missed any, although they have become a montage as we have all moved out and around to different places. So today Mr buffy and I are doing ours. Us and the dogs. Sitting on the wheel arch of the trailer with the rideon loaded up to go to Casterton. I just flipped back through the album and we haven’t done that before. We’ve done an archery one. And other more formal poses. But I think including the mower is appropriate…
:)
And Mr buffy never smiles. Although I did find one where he is nearly smiling…
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sarahs mum said:On the better days there is about 6 acres of mowing to doAnd Buffy couldn’t post for 10 minutes…
How do you do a raspberry sound on this thing?!
:)
:-P
buffy said:
And Mr buffy never smiles. Although I did find one where he is nearly smiling…
I like Mr Buffy. There is a like minds.
Michael V said:
Good morning everybody.Very warm and very humid again (24.3°C, 83% RH). Overcast, hazy and calm. Strong stinky fire smell.
There’s still a yellow alert on the bushfire, but there’s no longer 15 vehicles attending and water-bombers. Just one vehicle for the moment. I reckon the water bombing was a marvel. It may have covered us in ash, but it slowed the fire heaps, from what I can see. Unfortunately the cloud cover doesn’t allow me to assess the fire from satellite imagery today. I’ll check the fire’s status regularly throughout the day.
Meanwhile, there’s jobs on my list…
Quite surprising what a little water will do to a fire when dumped on it. I have diverted many small ones by simply using a watering can.
Was at my friends house Friday night, apparently his pool was a frogs sex club as it’s now full of hundreds if not thousands of tadpoles, they aren’t going to clean it until the are all grown up and left home. Will be amusing to see that many baby frogs all at once

Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:i got one of those $5 bunnings jobbies. also have the genny going atm. power out. been out for quite a few hours. was out a few hours yesterday arvo as well. they don’t know when it’ll be back on.
Genset size and type?
honda, inverter, 2kva. ~$2000.
http://www.gocampingaustralia.com/honda-eu20i-generator-review.html
Thanks. Runs your fridge OK?
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:Genset size and type?
honda, inverter, 2kva. ~$2000.
http://www.gocampingaustralia.com/honda-eu20i-generator-review.html
Thanks. Runs your fridge OK?
running fridge, computer, modem, router, amp, atm.
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:
Michael V said:Not a super-nice town to live in, I’d imagine. I have stayed there. IIRC, most shop windows are barred. The town’s dirty (rubbish etc) and lot of people hang around doing nothing, because there’s so little to do in town and bugger all work is available.
Plenty of regional fat-bike exploration to do in your out of work hours if that takes your fancy. Interesting mountain ranges etc. Is the business cheap?
Yes, and it appears to make quite the $$ if the numbers haven’t been fudged…as in, if I could stand 5-10 years of it, I wouldn’t have to work afterwards.
You should go up there and take a look then. It’s well different. It’s well isolated. It has the problems I alluded to earlier. There’s nuggetty gold in the region (think metal detecting). While you’re there, go check out Wolfe Creek Meteorite Crater. It’s big and very well preserved.
Hmmm…
poikilotherm said:
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:Yes, and it appears to make quite the $$ if the numbers haven’t been fudged…as in, if I could stand 5-10 years of it, I wouldn’t have to work afterwards.
You should go up there and take a look then. It’s well different. It’s well isolated. It has the problems I alluded to earlier. There’s nuggetty gold in the region (think metal detecting). While you’re there, go check out Wolfe Creek Meteorite Crater. It’s big and very well preserved.
Hmmm…
the kimberley is a good area to look around. need a fwd.
Bogsnorkler said:
poikilotherm said:
Michael V said:You should go up there and take a look then. It’s well different. It’s well isolated. It has the problems I alluded to earlier. There’s nuggetty gold in the region (think metal detecting). While you’re there, go check out Wolfe Creek Meteorite Crater. It’s big and very well preserved.
Hmmm…
the kimberley is a good area to look around. need a fwd.
Got a 4wd, and yea, I quite like the look of the place. Not sure I’m ready for that kinda of isolation, but at the potential to be ‘work free’ after 5-10 years, it’s enticing.
Greetings and things to the local community.
Still dragging myself around dripping snot. Doctard’s tomorrow.
Bought more wood stain and made more decisions about another wooden surface requiring some paint or something. The kitchen theme is evolving into industrial retro farm kitchen. I just want it finished 😕
mr kii is still going well, he sees the oncologist on Thursday for blood test results and treatment options.
We took the little Alien II through the carwash, too much excitement for me.
poikilotherm said:
Bogsnorkler said:
poikilotherm said:Hmmm…
the kimberley is a good area to look around. need a fwd.
Got a 4wd, and yea, I quite like the look of the place. Not sure I’m ready for that kinda of isolation, but at the potential to be ‘work free’ after 5-10 years, it’s enticing.
Probably a very different teaching environment for Mrs Poiky too.
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:
Bogsnorkler said:the kimberley is a good area to look around. need a fwd.
Got a 4wd, and yea, I quite like the look of the place. Not sure I’m ready for that kinda of isolation, but at the potential to be ‘work free’ after 5-10 years, it’s enticing.
Probably a very different teaching environment for Mrs Poiky too.
I doubt she’d be into it, but 5 years in the scheme of things isn’t that long.
kii said:
Greetings and things to the local community.Still dragging myself around dripping snot. Doctard’s tomorrow.
Bought more wood stain and made more decisions about another wooden surface requiring some paint or something. The kitchen theme is evolving into industrial retro farm kitchen. I just want it finished 😕
mr kii is still going well, he sees the oncologist on Thursday for blood test results and treatment options.
We took the little Alien II through the carwash, too much excitement for me.
*sends bestest wishes to Mr Kii.
I describe my place as cottage industrial.
poikilotherm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:Got a 4wd, and yea, I quite like the look of the place. Not sure I’m ready for that kinda of isolation, but at the potential to be ‘work free’ after 5-10 years, it’s enticing.
Probably a very different teaching environment for Mrs Poiky too.
I doubt she’d be into it, but 5 years in the scheme of things isn’t that long.
yep. it is the going bush that is the best part. plus there are always interesting characters in towns like that.
sarahs mum said:
kii said:
Greetings and things to the local community.Still dragging myself around dripping snot. Doctard’s tomorrow.
Bought more wood stain and made more decisions about another wooden surface requiring some paint or something. The kitchen theme is evolving into industrial retro farm kitchen. I just want it finished 😕
mr kii is still going well, he sees the oncologist on Thursday for blood test results and treatment options.
We took the little Alien II through the carwash, too much excitement for me.
*sends bestest wishes to Mr Kii.
I describe my place as cottage industrial.
I can appreciate that.
I’m happy with stripped, distressed wood….stainless steel, white walls/ceiling and Splotches of bright colours with old treasures, cat fluff and dog fur.
kii said:
sarahs mum said:
kii said:
Greetings and things to the local community.Still dragging myself around dripping snot. Doctard’s tomorrow.
Bought more wood stain and made more decisions about another wooden surface requiring some paint or something. The kitchen theme is evolving into industrial retro farm kitchen. I just want it finished 😕
mr kii is still going well, he sees the oncologist on Thursday for blood test results and treatment options.
We took the little Alien II through the carwash, too much excitement for me.
*sends bestest wishes to Mr Kii.
I describe my place as cottage industrial.
I can appreciate that.
I’m happy with stripped, distressed wood….stainless steel, white walls/ceiling and Splotches of bright colours with old treasures, cat fluff and dog fur.
Most of my furniture is in the 80-120 year old range. But the printworks is the centre of my home. the first thing you see when you walk in the door. And quite a bit of the studio/living room furniture is on trolley wheels. And I have a polished slab as flooring.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:honda, inverter, 2kva. ~$2000.
http://www.gocampingaustralia.com/honda-eu20i-generator-review.html
Thanks. Runs your fridge OK?
running fridge, computer, modem, router, amp, atm.
Works OK when the fridge kicks in with those other things going?
How much fuel does it use?
poikilotherm said:
Bogsnorkler said:
poikilotherm said:Hmmm…
the kimberley is a good area to look around. need a fwd.
Got a 4wd, and yea, I quite like the look of the place. Not sure I’m ready for that kinda of isolation, but at the potential to be ‘work free’ after 5-10 years, it’s enticing.
I can understand the enticement, but you should look at Halls Creek first. You may find the place confronting.
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:Thanks. Runs your fridge OK?
running fridge, computer, modem, router, amp, atm.
Works OK when the fridge kicks in with those other things going?
How much fuel does it use?
running smoothly and don’t notice a change in engine revs when the fridge starts. fuel use is good, get hours from a tank.
kii said:
Greetings and things to the local community.Still dragging myself around dripping snot. Doctard’s tomorrow.
Bought more wood stain and made more decisions about another wooden surface requiring some paint or something. The kitchen theme is evolving into industrial retro farm kitchen. I just want it finished 😕
mr kii is still going well, he sees the oncologist on Thursday for blood test results and treatment options.
We took the little Alien II through the carwash, too much excitement for me.
:)
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:running fridge, computer, modem, router, amp, atm.
Works OK when the fridge kicks in with those other things going?
How much fuel does it use?
running smoothly and don’t notice a change in engine revs when the fridge starts. fuel use is good, get hours from a tank.
only drawback is it only comes in red.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:running fridge, computer, modem, router, amp, atm.
Works OK when the fridge kicks in with those other things going?
How much fuel does it use?
running smoothly and don’t notice a change in engine revs when the fridge starts. fuel use is good, get hours from a tank.
How many hours? How much fuel to fill the tank? (eg 5 hours, 2 litres)
Bogsnorkler said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:Works OK when the fridge kicks in with those other things going?
How much fuel does it use?
running smoothly and don’t notice a change in engine revs when the fridge starts. fuel use is good, get hours from a tank.
only drawback is it only comes in red.
snigger
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:Works OK when the fridge kicks in with those other things going?
How much fuel does it use?
running smoothly and don’t notice a change in engine revs when the fridge starts. fuel use is good, get hours from a tank.
How many hours? How much fuel to fill the tank? (eg 5 hours, 2 litres)
depends on load. 4l tank. spec says 15 hours.
Despite the latest poll indicating Labor would easily win an election held today, Morrison remains 11 points clear of the Labor leader Bill Shorten as preferred prime minister, with 40% of the sample rating him ahead of the Labor leader, and 29% backing Shorten.
Morrison’s approval ratings were also steady, with only small movements during the past month; 42% approved of the job Morrison was doing as prime minister, up one point from last month, and 34% disapproved, down three points.
Shorten’s approval stands at 35%, down three points in a month, and 43% disapprove of his performance, down one point.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/04/labor-extends-lead-as-coalitions-negative-campaigning-flops
Luckily a drover’s dog could lead the Labor Party to victory, the way the country is :)
sibeen said:
Despite the latest poll indicating Labor would easily win an election held today, Morrison remains 11 points clear of the Labor leader Bill Shorten as preferred prime minister, with 40% of the sample rating him ahead of the Labor leader, and 29% backing Shorten.Morrison’s approval ratings were also steady, with only small movements during the past month; 42% approved of the job Morrison was doing as prime minister, up one point from last month, and 34% disapproved, down three points.
Shorten’s approval stands at 35%, down three points in a month, and 43% disapprove of his performance, down one point.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/04/labor-extends-lead-as-coalitions-negative-campaigning-flops
Luckily a drover’s dog could lead the Labor Party to victory, the way the country is :)
Bring back no child left in poverty.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
Despite the latest poll indicating Labor would easily win an election held today, Morrison remains 11 points clear of the Labor leader Bill Shorten as preferred prime minister, with 40% of the sample rating him ahead of the Labor leader, and 29% backing Shorten.Morrison’s approval ratings were also steady, with only small movements during the past month; 42% approved of the job Morrison was doing as prime minister, up one point from last month, and 34% disapproved, down three points.
Shorten’s approval stands at 35%, down three points in a month, and 43% disapprove of his performance, down one point.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/04/labor-extends-lead-as-coalitions-negative-campaigning-flops
Luckily a drover’s dog could lead the Labor Party to victory, the way the country is :)
Bring back no child left in poverty.
Shouldn’t have poverty in first world nations, lots more street people I’ve noticed
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:running smoothly and don’t notice a change in engine revs when the fridge starts. fuel use is good, get hours from a tank.
How many hours? How much fuel to fill the tank? (eg 5 hours, 2 litres)
depends on load. 4l tank. spec says 15 hours.
Thanks.
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:How many hours? How much fuel to fill the tank? (eg 5 hours, 2 litres)
depends on load. 4l tank. spec says 15 hours.
Thanks.
power is back so will now switch everything off. change over to coal and switch everything back on.
sibeen said:
Despite the latest poll indicating Labor would easily win an election held today, Morrison remains 11 points clear of the Labor leader Bill Shorten as preferred prime minister, with 40% of the sample rating him ahead of the Labor leader, and 29% backing Shorten.Morrison’s approval ratings were also steady, with only small movements during the past month; 42% approved of the job Morrison was doing as prime minister, up one point from last month, and 34% disapproved, down three points.
Shorten’s approval stands at 35%, down three points in a month, and 43% disapprove of his performance, down one point.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/04/labor-extends-lead-as-coalitions-negative-campaigning-flops
Luckily a drover’s dog could lead the Labor Party to victory, the way the country is :)
Well the country’s in pretty good shape.
The next election wont be about Labor it will be about Liberal voters taking a baseball bat to their party for pulling down a government that had a good story to tell.
sibeen said:
Despite the latest poll indicating Labor would easily win an election held today, Morrison remains 11 points clear of the Labor leader Bill Shorten as preferred prime minister, with 40% of the sample rating him ahead of the Labor leader, and 29% backing Shorten.Morrison’s approval ratings were also steady, with only small movements during the past month; 42% approved of the job Morrison was doing as prime minister, up one point from last month, and 34% disapproved, down three points.
Shorten’s approval stands at 35%, down three points in a month, and 43% disapprove of his performance, down one point.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/04/labor-extends-lead-as-coalitions-negative-campaigning-flops
Luckily a drover’s dog could lead the Labor Party to victory, the way the country is :)
preferred PM poll counts for squat IMHO.
Peak Warming Man said:
Well the country’s in pretty good shape.
Oh?
Not for many, many people.
kii said:
Peak Warming Man said:Well the country’s in pretty good shape.
Oh?
Not for many, many people.
You are lucky were you live kii, people that care
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
Despite the latest poll indicating Labor would easily win an election held today, Morrison remains 11 points clear of the Labor leader Bill Shorten as preferred prime minister, with 40% of the sample rating him ahead of the Labor leader, and 29% backing Shorten.Morrison’s approval ratings were also steady, with only small movements during the past month; 42% approved of the job Morrison was doing as prime minister, up one point from last month, and 34% disapproved, down three points.
Shorten’s approval stands at 35%, down three points in a month, and 43% disapprove of his performance, down one point.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/04/labor-extends-lead-as-coalitions-negative-campaigning-flops
Luckily a drover’s dog could lead the Labor Party to victory, the way the country is :)
preferred PM poll counts for squat IMHO.
Exactly, ScoMo is OK but he chose to sip the poison chalice and save some furniture.
Labor needs to just lie dormant and they’ll get the chocolates.
Cymek said:
kii said:
Peak Warming Man said:Well the country’s in pretty good shape.
Oh?
Not for many, many people.You are lucky were you live kii, people that care
kii said:
Cymek said:
kii said:Oh?
Not for many, many people.You are lucky were you live kii, people that care
You are joking, right?
Yes
Cymek said:
kii said:
Cymek said:You are lucky were you live kii, people that care
You are joking, right?Yes
Good.
I’m gonna go take more medication, put a heating pad on my face and attempt to watch various crap on Netflix.
Cymek said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
Despite the latest poll indicating Labor would easily win an election held today, Morrison remains 11 points clear of the Labor leader Bill Shorten as preferred prime minister, with 40% of the sample rating him ahead of the Labor leader, and 29% backing Shorten.Morrison’s approval ratings were also steady, with only small movements during the past month; 42% approved of the job Morrison was doing as prime minister, up one point from last month, and 34% disapproved, down three points.
Shorten’s approval stands at 35%, down three points in a month, and 43% disapprove of his performance, down one point.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/04/labor-extends-lead-as-coalitions-negative-campaigning-flops
Luckily a drover’s dog could lead the Labor Party to victory, the way the country is :)
Bring back no child left in poverty.
Shouldn’t have poverty in first world nations, lots more street people I’ve noticed
Poverty is more or less a statistical measure which gets constantly updated. For instance not being able to afford an Internet connection would most likely count as a missing essential service. On the other hand the rising cost of housing over the last 10 years has no doubt contributed to greater mortgage stress and a higher percentage of income being spent on housing which probably also denotes living under the poverty line.
Ending homelessness would have to go hand in hand with improved services for the mentally ill who make up so many of the homeless.
kii said:
Cymek said:
kii said:You are joking, right?
Yes
Good.
I’m gonna go take more medication, put a heating pad on my face and attempt to watch various crap on Netflix.
If you like anime Evangelion is on or coming to Netflix
sibeen said:
Despite the latest poll indicating Labor would easily win an election held today, Morrison remains 11 points clear of the Labor leader Bill Shorten as preferred prime minister, with 40% of the sample rating him ahead of the Labor leader, and 29% backing Shorten.Morrison’s approval ratings were also steady, with only small movements during the past month; 42% approved of the job Morrison was doing as prime minister, up one point from last month, and 34% disapproved, down three points.
Shorten’s approval stands at 35%, down three points in a month, and 43% disapprove of his performance, down one point.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/04/labor-extends-lead-as-coalitions-negative-campaigning-flops
Luckily a drover’s dog could lead the Labor Party to victory, the way the country is :)
So what has our mate Bill been doing that has made him so unpopular?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Cymek said:
sarahs mum said:Bring back no child left in poverty.
Shouldn’t have poverty in first world nations, lots more street people I’ve noticed
Poverty is more or less a statistical measure which gets constantly updated. For instance not being able to afford an Internet connection would most likely count as a missing essential service. On the other hand the rising cost of housing over the last 10 years has no doubt contributed to greater mortgage stress and a higher percentage of income being spent on housing which probably also denotes living under the poverty line.
Ending homelessness would have to go hand in hand with improved services for the mentally ill who make up so many of the homeless.
Quite true, I remember one definition of poverty was not being able to get something like a $1000 for an emergency.
Yes the street people I’ve seen don’t look well as in strange type behaviour
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
Despite the latest poll indicating Labor would easily win an election held today, Morrison remains 11 points clear of the Labor leader Bill Shorten as preferred prime minister, with 40% of the sample rating him ahead of the Labor leader, and 29% backing Shorten.Morrison’s approval ratings were also steady, with only small movements during the past month; 42% approved of the job Morrison was doing as prime minister, up one point from last month, and 34% disapproved, down three points.
Shorten’s approval stands at 35%, down three points in a month, and 43% disapprove of his performance, down one point.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/04/labor-extends-lead-as-coalitions-negative-campaigning-flops
Luckily a drover’s dog could lead the Labor Party to victory, the way the country is :)
So what has our mate Bill been doing that has made him so unpopular?
Nothing…and that’s exactly what he is going to remain doing :)
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
Despite the latest poll indicating Labor would easily win an election held today, Morrison remains 11 points clear of the Labor leader Bill Shorten as preferred prime minister, with 40% of the sample rating him ahead of the Labor leader, and 29% backing Shorten.Morrison’s approval ratings were also steady, with only small movements during the past month; 42% approved of the job Morrison was doing as prime minister, up one point from last month, and 34% disapproved, down three points.
Shorten’s approval stands at 35%, down three points in a month, and 43% disapprove of his performance, down one point.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/04/labor-extends-lead-as-coalitions-negative-campaigning-flops
Luckily a drover’s dog could lead the Labor Party to victory, the way the country is :)
So what has our mate Bill been doing that has made him so unpopular?
For some reason “charisma” (whatever that is) is important to our voting public. Bill apparently doesn’t have it.
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
Despite the latest poll indicating Labor would easily win an election held today, Morrison remains 11 points clear of the Labor leader Bill Shorten as preferred prime minister, with 40% of the sample rating him ahead of the Labor leader, and 29% backing Shorten.Morrison’s approval ratings were also steady, with only small movements during the past month; 42% approved of the job Morrison was doing as prime minister, up one point from last month, and 34% disapproved, down three points.
Shorten’s approval stands at 35%, down three points in a month, and 43% disapprove of his performance, down one point.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/04/labor-extends-lead-as-coalitions-negative-campaigning-flops
Luckily a drover’s dog could lead the Labor Party to victory, the way the country is :)
So what has our mate Bill been doing that has made him so unpopular?
Nothing…and that’s exactly what he is going to remain doing :)
I didn’t even remember if he was still around
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
Despite the latest poll indicating Labor would easily win an election held today, Morrison remains 11 points clear of the Labor leader Bill Shorten as preferred prime minister, with 40% of the sample rating him ahead of the Labor leader, and 29% backing Shorten.Morrison’s approval ratings were also steady, with only small movements during the past month; 42% approved of the job Morrison was doing as prime minister, up one point from last month, and 34% disapproved, down three points.
Shorten’s approval stands at 35%, down three points in a month, and 43% disapprove of his performance, down one point.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/04/labor-extends-lead-as-coalitions-negative-campaigning-flops
Luckily a drover’s dog could lead the Labor Party to victory, the way the country is :)
So what has our mate Bill been doing that has made him so unpopular?
For some reason “charisma” (whatever that is) is important to our voting public. Bill apparently doesn’t have it.
He’s as wet as
sibeen said:
Luckily a drover’s dog could lead the Labor Party to victory, the way the country is :)
You can hardly blame Labor for enjoying the situation. It’s more usually the ALP that presents an image of disunity and foolishness, as its factions jockey for position in the lead-up to an election.
For once, it’s the other side in disarray, and even the ALP factions can see that it’d be idiotic to do anything that draws negative attention right now. Which is not to say they don’t still have time to shoot themselves in the foot.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Cymek said:
sarahs mum said:Bring back no child left in poverty.
Shouldn’t have poverty in first world nations, lots more street people I’ve noticed
Poverty is more or less a statistical measure which gets constantly updated. For instance not being able to afford an Internet connection would most likely count as a missing essential service. On the other hand the rising cost of housing over the last 10 years has no doubt contributed to greater mortgage stress and a higher percentage of income being spent on housing which probably also denotes living under the poverty line.
Ending homelessness would have to go hand in hand with improved services for the mentally ill who make up so many of the homeless.
Mentally ill making up so much of the homeless is old time stuff. Nowadays homelessness is much wider. It can include two income families. in Hobart there isn’t housing to be found. It is being bought up for AirBnB. Houses are being sold for over the asking price. Some houses are being sold before they officially go on the market.
So many are couch surfing. You aren’t officially homeless if you have a roof over your head last night.
Cymek said:
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:So what has our mate Bill been doing that has made him so unpopular?
For some reason “charisma” (whatever that is) is important to our voting public. Bill apparently doesn’t have it.
He’s as wet as
Whatever that means.
How was your holiday Captain?
Thanks for the info about your genset, Boris. Most informative.
:)
sarahs mum said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Cymek said:Shouldn’t have poverty in first world nations, lots more street people I’ve noticed
Poverty is more or less a statistical measure which gets constantly updated. For instance not being able to afford an Internet connection would most likely count as a missing essential service. On the other hand the rising cost of housing over the last 10 years has no doubt contributed to greater mortgage stress and a higher percentage of income being spent on housing which probably also denotes living under the poverty line.
Ending homelessness would have to go hand in hand with improved services for the mentally ill who make up so many of the homeless.
Mentally ill making up so much of the homeless is old time stuff. Nowadays homelessness is much wider. It can include two income families. in Hobart there isn’t housing to be found. It is being bought up for AirBnB. Houses are being sold for over the asking price. Some houses are being sold before they officially go on the market.
So many are couch surfing. You aren’t officially homeless if you have a roof over your head last night.
Is this because a lot of cashed up baby boomers are moving to Tassie for the lifestyle?

Michael V said:
Thanks for the info about your genset, Boris. Most informative.:)
bills in the mail.
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
Despite the latest poll indicating Labor would easily win an election held today, Morrison remains 11 points clear of the Labor leader Bill Shorten as preferred prime minister, with 40% of the sample rating him ahead of the Labor leader, and 29% backing Shorten.Morrison’s approval ratings were also steady, with only small movements during the past month; 42% approved of the job Morrison was doing as prime minister, up one point from last month, and 34% disapproved, down three points.
Shorten’s approval stands at 35%, down three points in a month, and 43% disapprove of his performance, down one point.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/04/labor-extends-lead-as-coalitions-negative-campaigning-flops
Luckily a drover’s dog could lead the Labor Party to victory, the way the country is :)
So what has our mate Bill been doing that has made him so unpopular?
For some reason “charisma” (whatever that is) is important to our voting public. Bill apparently doesn’t have it.
Howard had as much charisma as a soiled nappy, but it didn’t seem to matter.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Poverty is more or less a statistical measure which gets constantly updated. For instance not being able to afford an Internet connection would most likely count as a missing essential service. On the other hand the rising cost of housing over the last 10 years has no doubt contributed to greater mortgage stress and a higher percentage of income being spent on housing which probably also denotes living under the poverty line.
Ending homelessness would have to go hand in hand with improved services for the mentally ill who make up so many of the homeless.
Mentally ill making up so much of the homeless is old time stuff. Nowadays homelessness is much wider. It can include two income families. in Hobart there isn’t housing to be found. It is being bought up for AirBnB. Houses are being sold for over the asking price. Some houses are being sold before they officially go on the market.
So many are couch surfing. You aren’t officially homeless if you have a roof over your head last night.
Is this because a lot of cashed up baby boomers are moving to Tassie for the lifestyle?
And because of investors on the mainland not finding investments in Syd and Melbourne. But as i said lots of existing rentals are being taken off the market and are being rebirthed for tourism.Some cities in other parts of the planet have made legislation about this but Tas seems to be ignoring the problem. (Quite a few Lib state pollies own AirBnB businesses.)
There isn’t the same availability in the rental housing stock and the rents are increasing fast. And Tassie has low wages across the board.(which wasn’t so much of a problem when housing was cheaper.) We also have an aging population with many on welfare (I know of quite a few ex mainlanders who moved to Tassie to live on the Disability pension because they couldn’t afford the mainland.)Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:So what has our mate Bill been doing that has made him so unpopular?
For some reason “charisma” (whatever that is) is important to our voting public. Bill apparently doesn’t have it.
Howard had as much charisma as a soiled nappy, but it didn’t seem to matter.
Now look what you’ve done, you’ve made me go all teary eyed for the golden years.
But don’t fret, I’ll be OK.
Of my seventy summers I’ve spent 48 of them under good Coalition governments and had to only endure 22 under soviet socialist repressive Labor ones. I know what it’s like but I’ll cope by listening to the BBC, Pastor Chuck Swindoll and good music.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:For some reason “charisma” (whatever that is) is important to our voting public. Bill apparently doesn’t have it.
Howard had as much charisma as a soiled nappy, but it didn’t seem to matter.
Now look what you’ve done, you’ve made me go all teary eyed for the golden years.
But don’t fret, I’ll be OK.
Of my seventy summers I’ve spent 48 of them under good Coalition governments and had to only endure 22 under soviet socialist repressive Labor ones. I know what it’s like but I’ll cope by listening to the BBC, Pastor Chuck Swindoll and good music.
Being oldish won’t the Liberals want to soylent green you soon
Cymek said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:Howard had as much charisma as a soiled nappy, but it didn’t seem to matter.
Now look what you’ve done, you’ve made me go all teary eyed for the golden years.
But don’t fret, I’ll be OK.
Of my seventy summers I’ve spent 48 of them under good Coalition governments and had to only endure 22 under soviet socialist repressive Labor ones. I know what it’s like but I’ll cope by listening to the BBC, Pastor Chuck Swindoll and good music.
Being oldish won’t the Liberals want to soylent green you soon
That’s the ALP, the Liberals would want to give him 4 457 visa slaves and 3 millennials paid below minimum wage to help him get by.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Thanks for the info about your genset, Boris. Most informative.:)
bills in the mail.
No worries.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:For some reason “charisma” (whatever that is) is important to our voting public. Bill apparently doesn’t have it.
Howard had as much charisma as a soiled nappy, but it didn’t seem to matter.
Now look what you’ve done, you’ve made me go all teary eyed for the golden years.
But don’t fret, I’ll be OK.
Of my seventy summers I’ve spent 48 of them under good Coalition governments and had to only endure 22 under soviet socialist repressive Labor ones. I know what it’s like but I’ll cope by listening to the BBC, Pastor Chuck Swindoll and good music.
:)
poikilotherm said:
Cymek said:
Peak Warming Man said:Now look what you’ve done, you’ve made me go all teary eyed for the golden years.
But don’t fret, I’ll be OK.
Of my seventy summers I’ve spent 48 of them under good Coalition governments and had to only endure 22 under soviet socialist repressive Labor ones. I know what it’s like but I’ll cope by listening to the BBC, Pastor Chuck Swindoll and good music.
Being oldish won’t the Liberals want to soylent green you soon
That’s the ALP, the Liberals would want to give him 4 457 visa slaves and 3 millennials paid below minimum wage to help him get by.
Ha!
:)
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:
Cymek said:Being oldish won’t the Liberals want to soylent green you soon
That’s the ALP, the Liberals would want to give him 4 457 visa slaves and 3 millennials paid below minimum wage to help him get by.
Ha!
:)
What about a ivory handle whip to keep them in line
How’s the fire near you going, MV?
sarahs mum said:
So many are couch surfing. You aren’t officially homeless if you have a roof over your head last night.
Well that’s not right. Couch surfing or insecurity is specifically one of the definitions of homelessness.
Cymek said:
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:That’s the ALP, the Liberals would want to give him 4 457 visa slaves and 3 millennials paid below minimum wage to help him get by.
Ha!
:)
What about a ivory handle whip to keep them in line
That might be a bit much. But only because the ivory trade is banned in Australia and internationally…
AwesomeO said:
sarahs mum said:So many are couch surfing. You aren’t officially homeless if you have a roof over your head last night.
Well that’s not right. Couch surfing or insecurity is specifically one of the definitions of homelessness.
Shifty way of downgrading the problem I imagine, like unemployment if you work at all or are on a job search program / work for the dole it doesn’t or didn’t count in official figures
Cymek said:
AwesomeO said:
sarahs mum said:So many are couch surfing. You aren’t officially homeless if you have a roof over your head last night.
Well that’s not right. Couch surfing or insecurity is specifically one of the definitions of homelessness.
Shifty way of downgrading the problem I imagine, like unemployment if you work at all or are on a job search program / work for the dole it doesn’t or didn’t count in official figures
We use the UN standard of unemployment.
Peak Warming Man said:
How’s the fire near you going, MV?
May have flared up again in the last 20 minutes. Lots of smoke. I can hear storm rumblings, but the rain may miss us and the fire. I’m hoping it won’t, though.
Whilst the fire is still a yellow alert, the wording of the alert has been downgraded a bit. The advice has not been updated since 11:07 am.
Cymek said:
AwesomeO said:
sarahs mum said:So many are couch surfing. You aren’t officially homeless if you have a roof over your head last night.
Well that’s not right. Couch surfing or insecurity is specifically one of the definitions of homelessness.
Shifty way of downgrading the problem I imagine, like unemployment if you work at all or are on a job search program / work for the dole it doesn’t or didn’t count in official figures
Actually it’s not downgrading it at all, couch surfing with a roof would be downgrading. Including housing insecurity with a roof increases the pool of homeless.
What are the hooks made from?
kii said:
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What are the hooks made from?
My guess = bones.
kii said:
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What are the hooks made from?
Plaster coated metal or plastic ?
Michael V said:
kii said:
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What are the hooks made from?
My guess = bones.
OK, so not that.
White stuff?
Michael V said:
kii said:
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What are the hooks made from?
My guess = bones.
What type of bones?
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
How’s the fire near you going, MV?
May have flared up again in the last 20 minutes. Lots of smoke. I can hear storm rumblings, but the rain may miss us and the fire. I’m hoping it won’t, though.
Whilst the fire is still a yellow alert, the wording of the alert has been downgraded a bit. The advice has not been updated since 11:07 am.
Lots of loud cloud rumblings and a few drops of rain. With luck we’ll get enough to extinguish the fire and water the garden.

kii said:
Michael V said:
kii said:
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What are the hooks made from?
My guess = bones.
What type of bones?
I don’t have any idea, sorry.
What type are they?
One of my girlfriends in the New England area just got a Barnaby Joyce handy kitchen conversion table fridge magnet in the mail.
He really doesn’t get it does he?
Michael V said:
kii said:
Michael V said:My guess = bones.
What type of bones?
I don’t have any idea, sorry.
What type are they?
Racoon penis bones.
Sorry to make you work for the answer.
I’ll go back to not annoying you.
kii said:
Michael V said:
kii said:What type of bones?
I don’t have any idea, sorry.
What type are they?
Racoon penis bones.
Sorry to make you work for the answer.
Ha!
(I had thought penis bones, but they were too small for a whale, so I gave up.)
kii said:
Michael V said:
kii said:What type of bones?
I don’t have any idea, sorry.
What type are they?
Racoon penis bones.
Sorry to make you work for the answer.
Raccoon penis bone earrings.

Mr Tunks is here attending to the grass. Wielding a noisy whipperator at the moment.
Bubblecar said:
Mr Tunks is here attending to the grass. Wielding a noisy whipperator at the moment.
Looxery.
Bubblecar said:
Mr Tunks is here attending to the grass. Wielding a noisy whipperator at the moment.
He seems reliable but he’s no Rodney
sarahs mum said:
One of my girlfriends in the New England area just got a Barnaby Joyce handy kitchen conversion table fridge magnet in the mail.He really doesn’t get it does he?
what’s a “handy kitchen conversion table fridge magnet”?
I understand the fridge magnet part…
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
One of my girlfriends in the New England area just got a Barnaby Joyce handy kitchen conversion table fridge magnet in the mail.He really doesn’t get it does he?
what’s a “handy kitchen conversion table fridge magnet”?
I understand the fridge magnet part…
Cups to mls etc.
Bubblecar said:
kii said:
Michael V said:I don’t have any idea, sorry.
What type are they?
Racoon penis bones.
Sorry to make you work for the answer.
Raccoon penis bone earrings.
Nice.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
One of my girlfriends in the New England area just got a Barnaby Joyce handy kitchen conversion table fridge magnet in the mail.He really doesn’t get it does he?
what’s a “handy kitchen conversion table fridge magnet”?
I understand the fridge magnet part…
Pounds, ounces, grams, litres, fluid ounces etc.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
One of my girlfriends in the New England area just got a Barnaby Joyce handy kitchen conversion table fridge magnet in the mail.He really doesn’t get it does he?
what’s a “handy kitchen conversion table fridge magnet”?
I understand the fridge magnet part…
how many grams of sugar equals a cup.
Fahrenheit to Celsius over temperature settings.
Temperatures for a slow or medium or fast oven.
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
One of my girlfriends in the New England area just got a Barnaby Joyce handy kitchen conversion table fridge magnet in the mail.He really doesn’t get it does he?
what’s a “handy kitchen conversion table fridge magnet”?
I understand the fridge magnet part…
Pounds, ounces, grams, litres, fluid ounces etc.
slaps head
Oh Duh!
I somehow was thinking the kitchen table converts into something else by means of a fridge magnet
seems rather obvious now
I can see that a conversion chart might be handy on the fridge. And his point is to get his name on the fridge. But on the other hand people are into services and the message here is to stay in the kitchen and forget about politics.
sarahs mum said:
I can see that a conversion chart might be handy on the fridge. And his point is to get his name on the fridge. But on the other hand people are into services and the message here is to stay in the kitchen and forget about politics.
I just use google anyway.
Google will convert the most silly things, it will convert metres per second into furlongs per hour if you ask it nicely.
sarahs mum said:
I can see that a conversion chart might be handy on the fridge. And his point is to get his name on the fridge. But on the other hand people are into services and the message here is to stay in the kitchen and forget about politics.
Or maybe for a targeted demographic it was brain stormed as a local members magnet that would be useful and not immediately thrown out like the other members magnets which just have a calendar. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
I can see that a conversion chart might be handy on the fridge. And his point is to get his name on the fridge. But on the other hand people are into services and the message here is to stay in the kitchen and forget about politics.I just use google anyway.
Google will convert the most silly things, it will convert metres per second into furlongs per hour if you ask it nicely.
Can’t convert Barnaby into something that isn’t a joke.
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
I can see that a conversion chart might be handy on the fridge. And his point is to get his name on the fridge. But on the other hand people are into services and the message here is to stay in the kitchen and forget about politics.I just use google anyway.
Google will convert the most silly things, it will convert metres per second into furlongs per hour if you ask it nicely.
Can’t convert Barnaby into something that isn’t a joke.
I hope he gets converted into an ex-politician at the next election.
Bogsnorkler said:
Almost funny.
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
party_pants said:what’s a “handy kitchen conversion table fridge magnet”?
I understand the fridge magnet part…
Pounds, ounces, grams, litres, fluid ounces etc.
slaps head
Oh Duh!
I somehow was thinking the kitchen table converts into something else by means of a fridge magnet
seems rather obvious now
:)
sarahs mum said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Almost funny.
sibeen, give Ros her handle back!
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
Michael V said:Pounds, ounces, grams, litres, fluid ounces etc.
slaps head
Oh Duh!
I somehow was thinking the kitchen table converts into something else by means of a fridge magnet
seems rather obvious now
:)
I just saw table and kitchen in the same sentence and assumed kitchen table. Now that I read it properly it seems so obvious.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:I just use google anyway.
Google will convert the most silly things, it will convert metres per second into furlongs per hour if you ask it nicely.
Can’t convert Barnaby into something that isn’t a joke.
I hope he gets converted into an ex-politician at the next election.
Nup, he’ll probably win the electorate easily. A 22% swing against him and he’ll still be in.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:I just use google anyway.
Google will convert the most silly things, it will convert metres per second into furlongs per hour if you ask it nicely.
Can’t convert Barnaby into something that isn’t a joke.
I hope he gets converted into an ex-politician at the next election.
It would be deserving. Carrying on from the earlier conversation about charisma.. I don’t see that he has any and he is running a high level of hypercrit.
Bogsnorkler said:
sarahs mum said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Almost funny.
sibeen, give Ros her handle back!
No!
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:Can’t convert Barnaby into something that isn’t a joke.
I hope he gets converted into an ex-politician at the next election.
Nup, he’ll probably win the electorate easily. A 22% swing against him and he’ll still be in.
what if his daughter ran as an indy?
Bogsnorkler said:
:)
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:Can’t convert Barnaby into something that isn’t a joke.
I hope he gets converted into an ex-politician at the next election.
Nup, he’ll probably win the electorate easily. A 22% swing against him and he’ll still be in.
He’s representative of his electorate …
sarahs mum said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Almost funny.
But is it as funny as it sounds?
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:I hope he gets converted into an ex-politician at the next election.
Nup, he’ll probably win the electorate easily. A 22% swing against him and he’ll still be in.
what if his daughter ran as an indy?
I, too, think that New England could be prone to a challenge by an independent. Tony Windsor ran there in 2016, it broke 58-42 in the National Party’s favour. Things have soured a bit for the Nats since then.
dv said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:Nup, he’ll probably win the electorate easily. A 22% swing against him and he’ll still be in.
what if his daughter ran as an indy?
I, too, think that New England could be prone to a challenge by an independent. Tony Windsor ran there in 2016, it broke 58-42 in the National Party’s favour. Things have soured a bit for the Nats since then.
We need more Wilkies.
sarahs mum said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Cymek said:Shouldn’t have poverty in first world nations, lots more street people I’ve noticed
Poverty is more or less a statistical measure which gets constantly updated. For instance not being able to afford an Internet connection would most likely count as a missing essential service. On the other hand the rising cost of housing over the last 10 years has no doubt contributed to greater mortgage stress and a higher percentage of income being spent on housing which probably also denotes living under the poverty line.
Ending homelessness would have to go hand in hand with improved services for the mentally ill who make up so many of the homeless.
Mentally ill making up so much of the homeless is old time stuff. Nowadays homelessness is much wider. It can include two income families. in Hobart there isn’t housing to be found. It is being bought up for AirBnB. Houses are being sold for over the asking price. Some houses are being sold before they officially go on the market.
So many are couch surfing. You aren’t officially homeless if you have a roof over your head last night.
Probably those sleeping rough are those with high rates of mental illness. I’m pretty sure that whoever does the stats include sleeping rough, sleeping in a car and couch surfing in insecure housing in their statistical estimates.
poikilotherm said:
Cymek said:
Peak Warming Man said:Now look what you’ve done, you’ve made me go all teary eyed for the golden years.
But don’t fret, I’ll be OK.
Of my seventy summers I’ve spent 48 of them under good Coalition governments and had to only endure 22 under soviet socialist repressive Labor ones. I know what it’s like but I’ll cope by listening to the BBC, Pastor Chuck Swindoll and good music.
Being oldish won’t the Liberals want to soylent green you soon
That’s the ALP, the Liberals would want to give him 4 457 visa slaves and 3 millennials paid below minimum wage to help him get by.
Isn’t all about packages with My Entitled Aged Care?
dv said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:Nup, he’ll probably win the electorate easily. A 22% swing against him and he’ll still be in.
what if his daughter ran as an indy?
I, too, think that New England could be prone to a challenge by an independent. Tony Windsor ran there in 2016, it broke 58-42 in the National Party’s favour. Things have soured a bit for the Nats since then.
Tony Windsor was a well-respected and well known Tamworth-district farmer, and former National Party member before being elected as an independent, first to NSW then Federal seats.
Rain!
Proper rain! Not just a few spots, but moderately heavy rain. Fire suppressing rain. Fire extinguishing rain. Yard watering rain. Oh the summer glory of it all!
:)
Michael V said:
Rain!Proper rain! Not just a few spots, but moderately heavy rain. Fire suppressing rain. Fire extinguishing rain. Yard watering rain. Oh the summer glory of it all!
:)
Yay!!
Michael V said:
Rain!Proper rain! Not just a few spots, but moderately heavy rain. Fire suppressing rain. Fire extinguishing rain. Yard watering rain. Oh the summer glory of it all!
:)
Run down the street naked shouting ‘the rains have come…the rains have come!’…
Michael V said:
dv said:
party_pants said:what if his daughter ran as an indy?
I, too, think that New England could be prone to a challenge by an independent. Tony Windsor ran there in 2016, it broke 58-42 in the National Party’s favour. Things have soured a bit for the Nats since then.
Tony Windsor was a well-respected and well known Tamworth-district farmer, and former National Party member before being elected as an independent, first to NSW then Federal seats.
Indeed but can he be persuaded to run again?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:
Rain!Proper rain! Not just a few spots, but moderately heavy rain. Fire suppressing rain. Fire extinguishing rain. Yard watering rain. Oh the summer glory of it all!
:)
Run down the street naked shouting ‘the rains have come…the rains have come!’…
And then the camera will pan upwards and just show that it’s actually just zarkov masturbating from the upstairs window
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:
Rain!Proper rain! Not just a few spots, but moderately heavy rain. Fire suppressing rain. Fire extinguishing rain. Yard watering rain. Oh the summer glory of it all!
:)
Run down the street naked shouting ‘the rains have come…the rains have come!’…
And then the camera will pan upwards and just show that it’s actually just zarkov masturbating from the upstairs window
HEY!! I resemble that
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:
Rain!Proper rain! Not just a few spots, but moderately heavy rain. Fire suppressing rain. Fire extinguishing rain. Yard watering rain. Oh the summer glory of it all!
:)
Run down the street naked shouting ‘the rains have come…the rains have come!’…
Nup. Too shy for that.
dv said:
Michael V said:
dv said:I, too, think that New England could be prone to a challenge by an independent. Tony Windsor ran there in 2016, it broke 58-42 in the National Party’s favour. Things have soured a bit for the Nats since then.
Tony Windsor was a well-respected and well known Tamworth-district farmer, and former National Party member before being elected as an independent, first to NSW then Federal seats.
Indeed but can he be persuaded to run again?
Maybe. I hope so. I like the guy. I’ve had many conversations with him He’s a lot to the right of me, but he listens well and acts thoughtfully. I voted for Windsor back in the Armidale days. But maybe he wants to stay retired. He deserves it.
Looks like you fire trouble may be over then, mv.
Zarkov said:
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Run down the street naked shouting ‘the rains have come…the rains have come!’…
And then the camera will pan upwards and just show that it’s actually just zarkov masturbating from the upstairs window
HEY!! I resemble that
Plus I did the program and it was expunged from my record
I was offered a movie deal about it as well

Zarkov said:
Zarkov said:
dv said:And then the camera will pan upwards and just show that it’s actually just zarkov masturbating from the upstairs window
HEY!! I resemble that
Plus I did the program and it was expunged from my record
I was offered a movie deal about it as well
Penes from heaven
dv said:
Zarkov said:
Zarkov said:HEY!! I resemble that
Plus I did the program and it was expunged from my record
I was offered a movie deal about it as well
Penes from heaven
Manna from heaven it’s called
dv said:
ROFL
sibeen said:
Looks like you fire trouble may be over then, mv.
I’m pretty confident that that’s the case. A nearby internet-connected rain gauge shows 20 mm so far.
:)
dv said:
LOL
Very clever.
:)
What happened to the other 4 Michael’‘s Michael 5
dv said:
Zarkov said:
Zarkov said:HEY!! I resemble that
Plus I did the program and it was expunged from my record
I was offered a movie deal about it as well
Penes from heaven
Oh dear…
:)
Zarkov said:
What happened to the other 4 Michael’‘s Michael 5
Arts ate them.
Methinks, Mr V your fire may be exstinguishated.
Woodie said:
Methinks, Mr V your fire may be exstinguishated.
Need to borrow my new mop?
How crazy am I to paint flannel flowers on the latest installation of kitchen cabinets?
Woodie said:
Methinks, Mr V your fire may be exstinguishated.
We think it may be. >20 mm so far.
:)
kii said:
How crazy am I to paint flannel flowers on the latest installation of kitchen cabinets?
I miss flannel flowers too.
Woodie said:
Woodie said:
Methinks, Mr V your fire may be exstinguishated.Need to borrow my new mop?
Cheeky.
:)
kii said:
How crazy am I to paint flannel flowers on the latest installation of kitchen cabinets?
Very.
No rain here yet, but its rumbling and gone black outside…
Fingers x’d, we need it here bad
kii said:
How crazy am I to paint flannel flowers on the latest installation of kitchen cabinets?
97% crazy
sarahs mum said:
kii said:
How crazy am I to paint flannel flowers on the latest installation of kitchen cabinets?
I miss flannel flowers too.
We were photographing some in Brisbane Water National Park on Sunday.
Marge! Marge! The rains are out!
sarahs mum said:
kii said:
How crazy am I to paint flannel flowers on the latest installation of kitchen cabinets?
I miss flannel flowers too.
I could make a stencil of a few fleurs. Also leafeses.

kii said:
How crazy am I to paint flannel flowers on the latest installation of kitchen cabinets?
We’d need a full list of your symptoms but let’s say about a 2 on a scale from Mueller to Trump.
Michael V said:
kii said:
How crazy am I to paint flannel flowers on the latest installation of kitchen cabinets?
Very.
Yeah, but I’m already at the “very” level.
kii said:
sarahs mum said:
kii said:
How crazy am I to paint flannel flowers on the latest installation of kitchen cabinets?
I miss flannel flowers too.
I could make a stencil of a few fleurs. Also leafeses.
Bastard.
dv said:
I just posted that on fb!
kii said:
How crazy am I to paint flannel flowers on the latest installation of kitchen cabinets?
I body painted flowers and ran down the street yelling so less crazy than me

kii said:
approved
SO one of the figures is Trump, who is the other, the guy leading the Russia investigation? I have no idea what he looks like.
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:Madness.
Nup. Australia
There’s a pharmacy for sale at Halls Creek, NT. Looked at the temps out of curiosity … seems it is pretty much 40 degrees year round through the day.
Pretty much.
Apparently I should sleep. I really hope the doctor finds out what’s wrong with me, why I can’t shake this sinus infection.
roughbarked said:
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:Nup. Australia
There’s a pharmacy for sale at Halls Creek, NT. Looked at the temps out of curiosity … seems it is pretty much 40 degrees year round through the day.
Pretty much.
36 degrees would be nice, could sell a lot more Placebos
kii said:
Apparently I should sleep. I really hope the doctor finds out what’s wrong with me, why I can’t shake this sinus infection.
Metal poisoning the USA is rife with it
Zarkov said:
kii said:
Apparently I should sleep. I really hope the doctor finds out what’s wrong with me, why I can’t shake this sinus infection.
Metal poisoning the USA is rife with it
Good chance of dying of a lead overdose in a lot of places, especially if you’re of a particular ethnicity.
mmmm McPoop
kii said:
Apparently I should sleep. I really hope the doctor finds out what’s wrong with me, why I can’t shake this sinus infection.
:( hope it clears up soon.
captain_spalding said:
Zarkov said:
kii said:
Apparently I should sleep. I really hope the doctor finds out what’s wrong with me, why I can’t shake this sinus infection.
Metal poisoning the USA is rife with it
Good chance of dying of a lead overdose in a lot of places, especially if you’re of a particular ethnicity.
kii is Mexican isn’t she
kii said:
brill.
party_pants said:
SO one of the figures is Trump, who is the other, the guy leading the Russia investigation? I have no idea what he looks like.
Robert Mueller
kii said:
Michael V said:
kii said:
How crazy am I to paint flannel flowers on the latest installation of kitchen cabinets?
Very.
Yeah, but I’m already at the “very” level.
Ah. Well. Unmeasurably extreme…
Zarkov said:
captain_spalding said:
Zarkov said:Metal poisoning the USA is rife with it
Good chance of dying of a lead overdose in a lot of places, especially if you’re of a particular ethnicity.
kii is Mexican isn’t she
New Mexican. I think that’s something like New Australian.
dv said:
party_pants said:
SO one of the figures is Trump, who is the other, the guy leading the Russia investigation? I have no idea what he looks like.
Robert Mueller
I like Trump he’s grounded and I bet he would listen to me about metal poisoning
from the rustbelt.
We only see nice memes. Because on the most part we are nice people.This went past on my wall from the woman I don’t talk to anymore but haven’t blocked. She’s getting nastier.

captain_spalding said:
Zarkov said:
captain_spalding said:Good chance of dying of a lead overdose in a lot of places, especially if you’re of a particular ethnicity.
kii is Mexican isn’t she
New Mexican. I think that’s something like New Australian.
She a fiery angry women and with her dog Pepito she has to be Mexican
Zarkov said:
dv said:
party_pants said:
SO one of the figures is Trump, who is the other, the guy leading the Russia investigation? I have no idea what he looks like.
Robert Mueller
I like Trump he’s grounded and I bet he would listen to me about metal poisoning
He’ll probably say, is that’s what’s wrong with me?
Zarkov said:
dv said:
party_pants said:
SO one of the figures is Trump, who is the other, the guy leading the Russia investigation? I have no idea what he looks like.
Robert Mueller
I like Trump he’s grounded and I bet he would listen to me about metal poisoning
Nice try but there’s no reason for him to listen to you. He’s the expert. On everything.
Zarkov said:
dv said:
party_pants said:
SO one of the figures is Trump, who is the other, the guy leading the Russia investigation? I have no idea what he looks like.
Robert Mueller
I like Trump he’s grounded and I bet he would listen to me about metal poisoning
Bet he wouldn’t. The USA has never been so clean as it is now. He is the environmental president.
sarahs mum said:
Zarkov said:
dv said:Robert Mueller
I like Trump he’s grounded and I bet he would listen to me about metal poisoning
Bet he wouldn’t. The USA has never been so clean as it is now. He is the environmental president.
That’s right. It’s great eh.
sarahs mum said:
from the rustbelt.We only see nice memes. Because on the most part we are nice people.This went past on my wall from the woman I don’t talk to anymore but haven’t blocked. She’s getting nastier.
Tear gas is no joke, open air or closed space.
If you want have a really fun afternoon, try DM gas, it’s a jolly little party-enhancer, take my word.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
from the rustbelt.We only see nice memes. Because on the most part we are nice people.This went past on my wall from the woman I don’t talk to anymore but haven’t blocked. She’s getting nastier.
Tear gas is no joke, open air or closed space.
If you want have a really fun afternoon, try DM gas, it’s a jolly little party-enhancer, take my word.
Made tear gas by accident in Organic Chem lab once, the fume hoods…they did not work.
sarahs mum said:
from the rustbelt.We only see nice memes. Because on the most part we are nice people.This went past on my wall from the woman I don’t talk to anymore but haven’t blocked. She’s getting nastier.
What’s the lower photo of?
He’s finished, did a very neat and tidy job.
Rang butcher.
I said..Hello this is Ros Meeker. And Darryn said, You’re ringing about your Christmas York ham? We wouldn’t forget you…
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
from the rustbelt.We only see nice memes. Because on the most part we are nice people.This went past on my wall from the woman I don’t talk to anymore but haven’t blocked. She’s getting nastier.
What’s the lower photo of?
Military people quite often get exposed to tear gas during training so they know what to expect during a gas attack.
sarahs mum said:
Rang butcher.I said..Hello this is Ros Meeker. And Darryn said, You’re ringing about your Christmas York ham? We wouldn’t forget you…
:)
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
from the rustbelt.We only see nice memes. Because on the most part we are nice people.This went past on my wall from the woman I don’t talk to anymore but haven’t blocked. She’s getting nastier.
What’s the lower photo of?
Military people quite often get exposed to tear gas during training so they know what to expect during a gas attack.
OK. Thanks.
sarahs mum said:
Rang butcher.I said..Hello this is Ros Meeker. And Darryn said, You’re ringing about your Christmas York ham? We wouldn’t forget you…
Goodo.
I might get a Christmas ham this year too.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Rang butcher.I said..Hello this is Ros Meeker. And Darryn said, You’re ringing about your Christmas York ham? We wouldn’t forget you…
Goodo.
I might get a Christmas ham this year too.
I usually do the york ham and a boned chicken that is stuffed with sage and onion dressing. but this year is at Tim’s folks. But Sarah still wants the york ham. I might do the boned chook for the new year.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Rang butcher.I said..Hello this is Ros Meeker. And Darryn said, You’re ringing about your Christmas York ham? We wouldn’t forget you…
Goodo.
I might get a Christmas ham this year too.
I usually do the york ham and a boned chicken that is stuffed with sage and onion dressing. but this year is at Tim’s folks. But Sarah still wants the york ham. I might do the boned chook for the new year.
So this butcher does their own hams?
I had to look york ham up.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Goodo.
I might get a Christmas ham this year too.
I usually do the york ham and a boned chicken that is stuffed with sage and onion dressing. but this year is at Tim’s folks. But Sarah still wants the york ham. I might do the boned chook for the new year.
So this butcher does their own hams?
I had to look york ham up.
I think he orders them from somewhere up north of the isle.. But he does run a small smokehouse…mostly smokes salmon. The hot smoked salmon is really really good.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Goodo.
I might get a Christmas ham this year too.
I usually do the york ham and a boned chicken that is stuffed with sage and onion dressing. but this year is at Tim’s folks. But Sarah still wants the york ham. I might do the boned chook for the new year.
So this butcher does their own hams?
I had to look york ham up.
I looked it up because you said you had looked it up. In this case the york ham is smoked leg of lamb.
Astronomers calculate the total amount of starlight ever produced in the observable universe
4 × 10^84
or
4 septenvigintillion.
or
4,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 photons.
and exactly that many.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:I usually do the york ham and a boned chicken that is stuffed with sage and onion dressing. but this year is at Tim’s folks. But Sarah still wants the york ham. I might do the boned chook for the new year.
So this butcher does their own hams?
I had to look york ham up.
I looked it up because you said you had looked it up. In this case the york ham is smoked leg of lamb.
Well if it has a bone in it it is then from Australia.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:I usually do the york ham and a boned chicken that is stuffed with sage and onion dressing. but this year is at Tim’s folks. But Sarah still wants the york ham. I might do the boned chook for the new year.
So this butcher does their own hams?
I had to look york ham up.
I think he orders them from somewhere up north of the isle.. But he does run a small smokehouse…mostly smokes salmon. The hot smoked salmon is really really good.
It’s the bestest ever.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:I usually do the york ham and a boned chicken that is stuffed with sage and onion dressing. but this year is at Tim’s folks. But Sarah still wants the york ham. I might do the boned chook for the new year.
So this butcher does their own hams?
I had to look york ham up.
I looked it up because you said you had looked it up. In this case the york ham is smoked leg of lamb.
I looked it up too. So your butcher’s York Ham is Lamb.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:So this butcher does their own hams?
I had to look york ham up.
I looked it up because you said you had looked it up. In this case the york ham is smoked leg of lamb.
I looked it up too. So your butcher’s York Ham is Lamb.
It comes ‘green’. I soak it overnight and then usually roast it off with jam and seeded mustard glaze.
I’d still be getting their smoked salmon sent, but I don’t know how many days it’d take for their post-pack to get here. It was fine for Armidale and for Brisbane. We might just have to try it some time and hope.
What is this guy thinking ?
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:So this butcher does their own hams?
I had to look york ham up.
I think he orders them from somewhere up north of the isle.. But he does run a small smokehouse…mostly smokes salmon. The hot smoked salmon is really really good.
It’s the bestest ever.
So sm put you onto a butcher in Tassie that sells you salmon?
Two rather sodden-looking magpies and a peewee wandering around the courtyard lawn, plucking tucker out.
Tau.Neutrino said:
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What is this guy thinking ?
I dunno. You tell me.
Women’s Ballon d’Or winner Ada Hegerberg asked to ‘twerk’ by French DJ Martin Solveig
Thanks for puuuuutttttting that image in the mind…..
I would now like to see both teams mandatory twerking before and after the game.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:I think he orders them from somewhere up north of the isle.. But he does run a small smokehouse…mostly smokes salmon. The hot smoked salmon is really really good.
It’s the bestest ever.
So sm put you onto a butcher in Tassie that sells you salmon?
He cryovacs the hot smoked salmon and puts it into express post. Overnight to you in Melbourne.
Michael V said:
Two rather sodden-looking magpies and a peewee wandering around the courtyard lawn, plucking tucker out.
The peewees (there’s two now) are perching on chairs on the verandah.
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:It’s the bestest ever.
So sm put you onto a butcher in Tassie that sells you salmon?
He cryovacs the hot smoked salmon and puts it into express post. Overnight to you in Melbourne.
So what is so special about this salmon?
The bushfire warning has been downgraded to an information notice – white alert. It’s still burning but contained. 26 mm so far a few streets away.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:So sm put you onto a butcher in Tassie that sells you salmon?
He cryovacs the hot smoked salmon and puts it into express post. Overnight to you in Melbourne.
So what is so special about this salmon?
It’s the best smoked salmon I’ve ever had. And reasonably priced, too.
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:He cryovacs the hot smoked salmon and puts it into express post. Overnight to you in Melbourne.
So what is so special about this salmon?
It’s the best smoked salmon I’ve ever had. And reasonably priced, too.
So, a butcher in tassie sells it, eh?
Patricia Karvelas should not have been thrown out of Question Time for baring arms, Speaker says
Everyone has to wear black suits, no horrible navy blue suits either, black suits.
Michael V said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
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What is this guy thinking ?
I dunno. You tell me.
Well he is looking at her face, not her tits or arse so I need some guidance on what to be outraged about.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:So what is so special about this salmon?
It’s the best smoked salmon I’ve ever had. And reasonably priced, too.
So, a butcher in tassie sells it, eh?
He just buys it from Coles.
AwesomeO said:
Michael V said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
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What is this guy thinking ?
I dunno. You tell me.
Well he is looking at her face, not her tits or arse so I need some guidance on what to be outraged about.
I think he wants the microphone.
I also think he doesn’t want her to have the microphone, because he wants the microphone.
Tau.Neutrino said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:It’s the best smoked salmon I’ve ever had. And reasonably priced, too.
So, a butcher in tassie sells it, eh?
He just buys it from Coles.
He buys the ones from the salmon farm that are harvested but the wrong size for their production runs. So there are little sides of salmon and big sides of salmon.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:So what is so special about this salmon?
It’s the best smoked salmon I’ve ever had. And reasonably priced, too.
So, a butcher in tassie sells it, eh?
Yes, down the hill from sm. Snug Butchery.
She sent some to Steve the meteorologist for his housewarming, I think. I ate some and wanted more.
Tau.Neutrino said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:It’s the best smoked salmon I’ve ever had. And reasonably priced, too.
So, a butcher in tassie sells it, eh?
He just buys it from Coles.
I can assure you he doesn’t.
:)
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:It’s the best smoked salmon I’ve ever had. And reasonably priced, too.
So, a butcher in tassie sells it, eh?
Yes, down the hill from sm. Snug Butchery.
She sent some to Steve the meteorologist for his housewarming, I think. I ate some and wanted more.
They don’t have a website. Are they fictional?
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:So, a butcher in tassie sells it, eh?
Yes, down the hill from sm. Snug Butchery.
She sent some to Steve the meteorologist for his housewarming, I think. I ate some and wanted more.
They don’t have a website. Are they fictional?
Maybe they’re in a parallel dimension where you’re not allowed to eat Tassie smoked salmon.
Thankyou, God’s of rain 🌧☔️
One of the neighbours and I were discussing the soon to be opened IGA and the effect it will have on the corner shop. that over charges on most grocery lines. Sells hamburgers and chips. And newspapers. We decided they were going to have a hard time. they might need to remake themselves. But we decided the butcher would be fine. Lots of folks stop there on their way down the channel or before they go over to Bruny. They have enough of their own specialty lines and the quality is always good.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:So, a butcher in tassie sells it, eh?
Yes, down the hill from sm. Snug Butchery.
She sent some to Steve the meteorologist for his housewarming, I think. I ate some and wanted more.
They don’t have a website. Are they fictional?
You call them up using long-distance telephony and place your order and pay by credit card. You may have to look up the number. Mrs V has it somewhere if the yellow pages doesn’t have it.
sm has it too.
The Snug Butchery,
Snug Highway,
Snug,
Tasmania,
is the address (IIRC).

Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:Yes, down the hill from sm. Snug Butchery.
She sent some to Steve the meteorologist for his housewarming, I think. I ate some and wanted more.
They don’t have a website. Are they fictional?
You call them up using long-distance telephony and place your order and pay by credit card. You may have to look up the number. Mrs V has it somewhere if the yellow pages doesn’t have it.
sm has it too.
The Snug Butchery,
Snug Highway,
Snug,
Tasmania,is the address (IIRC).
Channel Hwy.
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:Yes, down the hill from sm. Snug Butchery.
She sent some to Steve the meteorologist for his housewarming, I think. I ate some and wanted more.
They don’t have a website. Are they fictional?
You call them up using long-distance telephony and place your order and pay by credit card. You may have to look up the number. Mrs V has it somewhere if the yellow pages doesn’t have it.
sm has it too.
The Snug Butchery,
Snug Highway,
Snug,
Tasmania,is the address (IIRC).
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Snug-Butchery/240877136491083
:-)
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:They don’t have a website. Are they fictional?
You call them up using long-distance telephony and place your order and pay by credit card. You may have to look up the number. Mrs V has it somewhere if the yellow pages doesn’t have it.
sm has it too.
The Snug Butchery,
Snug Highway,
Snug,
Tasmania,is the address (IIRC).
Channel Hwy.
Sorry. I got that bit wrong.
Hello Holidayers. Did the stuff we had to do today. Mr buffy called in and sorted out the First Aid course he is giving the week after next in Coleraine. I visited the chocolate factory. Then we went to Casterton and I called in to the council offices and told them that as apparently I can no longer opt out of the garbage collection (you can if you are commercial, but I’ve just had the house put back to residential for when I sell it) they had better give me the appropriate bins. A form was filled in. I carefully crossed out the work “additional” near where I signed. These are not additional bins. And I don’t intend to be charged for them when I am paying the garbage charge annually. The lady also wrote on the form that the bins are to be put inside the gate when they are delivered. I told her that as I do not live there, I cannot be responsible for theft of bins left out on the nature strip by someone else. Then I went to the butcher. The old butcher (who was actually only my age) died a couple of years ago. Suddenly. But there are some young fellows running the shop now. I’ve found my new butcher. My test of sausages is to taste them raw (at home, not at the shop). These sausages are good. And I just cooked a couple of chicken schnitzels for tea and they were good too. I bought a couple of parmesan chicken kievs. We’ll eat them in due course and see how they go.
sarahs mum said:
We are sorry about Malcolm Turnbull.
Sorry, We are so sorry.
Tax cuts anyone ?
Oh, and I didn’t forget my haircut appointment today.
buffy said:
Oh, and I didn’t forget my haircut appointment today.
:)
buffy said:
Oh, and I didn’t forget my haircut appointment today.
Well done.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:Oh, and I didn’t forget my haircut appointment today.
Well done.
I suppose as we all get older we’d best get used to giving each other high fives, and pats on the back and well done for even the most basic of tasks :)
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:Oh, and I didn’t forget my haircut appointment today.
Well done.
I suppose as we all get older we’d best get used to giving each other high fives, and pats on the back and well done for even the most basic of tasks :)
You’d better believe it.
How was the opened bottle of wine last night?
Have you gotten the butcher’s telephone number yet?
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:Oh, and I didn’t forget my haircut appointment today.
Well done.
I suppose as we all get older we’d best get used to giving each other high fives, and pats on the back and well done for even the most basic of tasks :)
well done sibeen. another successful posting.
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:Well done.
I suppose as we all get older we’d best get used to giving each other high fives, and pats on the back and well done for even the most basic of tasks :)
You’d better believe it.
How was the opened bottle of wine last night?
Have you gotten the butcher’s telephone number yet?
he hasn’t had a butcher’s yet.
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:Well done.
I suppose as we all get older we’d best get used to giving each other high fives, and pats on the back and well done for even the most basic of tasks :)
You’d better believe it.
How was the opened bottle of wine last night?
Have you gotten the butcher’s telephone number yet?
What…what wine.
Butcher? I have no idea what you’re on about. Speak louder and get off my fucking lawn.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:You call them up using long-distance telephony and place your order and pay by credit card. You may have to look up the number. Mrs V has it somewhere if the yellow pages doesn’t have it.
sm has it too.
The Snug Butchery,
Snug Highway,
Snug,
Tasmania,is the address (IIRC).
Channel Hwy.
Sorry. I got that bit wrong.
Well maybe that means you’re wrong about the quality of this smoked salmon too… I really don’t know what to think now I’m afraid…
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:Channel Hwy.
Sorry. I got that bit wrong.
Well maybe that means you’re wrong about the quality of this smoked salmon too… I really don’t know what to think now I’m afraid…
don’t be afraid witty, i’m here.
Bogsnorkler said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:Sorry. I got that bit wrong.
Well maybe that means you’re wrong about the quality of this smoked salmon too… I really don’t know what to think now I’m afraid…
don’t be afraid witty, i’m here.
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Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:Channel Hwy.
Sorry. I got that bit wrong.
Well maybe that means you’re wrong about the quality of this smoked salmon too… I really don’t know what to think now I’m afraid…
I am wrong about everything. People are always telling me so.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Well maybe that means you’re wrong about the quality of this smoked salmon too… I really don’t know what to think now I’m afraid…
don’t be afraid witty, i’m here.
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.. . .… . / …. . .-.. .—.
I’ll help if you need.
AwesomeO said:
sarahs mum said:
I can see that a conversion chart might be handy on the fridge. And his point is to get his name on the fridge. But on the other hand people are into services and the message here is to stay in the kitchen and forget about politics.Or maybe for a targeted demographic it was brain stormed as a local members magnet that would be useful and not immediately thrown out like the other members magnets which just have a calendar. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Our local member’s fridge magnet calendar goes on the fridge. After I take to it with the scissors to cut all his advertising off it.
I wouldn’t let scissors anywhere near my local member.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:I suppose as we all get older we’d best get used to giving each other high fives, and pats on the back and well done for even the most basic of tasks :)
You’d better believe it.
How was the opened bottle of wine last night?
Have you gotten the butcher’s telephone number yet?
What…what wine.
Christ, was swmbos reckoning that bad?
Tau.Neutrino said:
Patricia Karvelas should not have been thrown out of Question Time for baring arms, Speaker saysEveryone has to wear black suits, no horrible navy blue suits either, black suits.
Can anyone else smell the election taint in the air?
(I’m still catching up with you lot)
Now caught up. Just in time to think about going off to do some reading. Or perhaps I’ll write some Christmas cards first. The ones for the family, because I can give them to them by hand on Sunday at lunch. I’ve still got some Oxfam cards, I didn’t need to buy any more this year.
buffy said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Patricia Karvelas should not have been thrown out of Question Time for baring arms, Speaker saysEveryone has to wear black suits, no horrible navy blue suits either, black suits.
Can anyone else smell the election taint in the air?
(I’m still catching up with you lot)
I think it’s the faint whiff of death from the liberal party which has started to decompose while still somewhat living.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Cymek said:
sarahs mum said:Bring back no child left in poverty.
Shouldn’t have poverty in first world nations, lots more street people I’ve noticed
Poverty is more or less a statistical measure which gets constantly updated. For instance not being able to afford an Internet connection would most likely count as a missing essential service. On the other hand the rising cost of housing over the last 10 years has no doubt contributed to greater mortgage stress and a higher percentage of income being spent on housing which probably also denotes living under the poverty line.
Ending homelessness would have to go hand in hand with improved services for the mentally ill who make up so many of the homeless.
Surprised the government hasen’t determined that if these people have a cardboard box to sleep in, then they are not homeless. It would help government statistics.
buffy said:
Can anyone else smell the election taint in the air?
(I’m still catching up with you lot)
waiting for it
dreaming of it
longing for it
Food Babe


Bogsnorkler said:
Food Babe
Oh fuck… where to start
“But even better than the achievement of generating more electricity than any mission before us is what it represents for performing our upcoming engineering tasks,” Hoffman added. “The 4,588 watt-hours we produced during sol 1 means we currently have more than enough juice to perform these tasks and move forward with our science mission.”
I guess it comes down to the amphours of their battery banks, they can generate all the energy they want but once the batteries are full it anit going to go anywhere, unless they can use it straight off the solar cells as well.
NT water authority mystified as tiny Bathurst Island community uses 2.5 million litres per day
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-04/bathurst-island-tiwi-using-millions-litres-water/10578210
——
somebody is spending too long in the shower.
Done some Christmas cards.
If any of you lot have an email address for me with ansonic in it, please delete it. It has died. It was my first email back in the dark ages and the only way for me to keep it alive was to pay for block hours. I finally decided the $15 per year wasn’t necessary. If that was the only one you had for me, let me know here and I’ll email you with the new one.
sarahs mum said:
NT water authority mystified as tiny Bathurst Island community uses 2.5 million litres per dayhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-04/bathurst-island-tiwi-using-millions-litres-water/10578210
——
somebody is spending too long in the shower.
maybe they’ve got lots of leeks

In other news, I have a new toy to play with. A mini lathe; and by mini I mean mini. Whole thing is about 40 cm long. I intend to try make some chess pieces. Delivered late this afternoon so I have not had the chance to set it up and have a practice yet.
party_pants said:
In other news, I have a new toy to play with. A mini lathe; and by mini I mean mini. Whole thing is about 40 cm long. I intend to try make some chess pieces. Delivered late this afternoon so I have not had the chance to set it up and have a practice yet.
:) are there mini chisels?
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
In other news, I have a new toy to play with. A mini lathe; and by mini I mean mini. Whole thing is about 40 cm long. I intend to try make some chess pieces. Delivered late this afternoon so I have not had the chance to set it up and have a practice yet.
:) are there mini chisels?
Actually yes there are. It came with a pack of half a dozen. They are still unopened :)
party_pants said:
In other news, I have a new toy to play with. A mini lathe; and by mini I mean mini. Whole thing is about 40 cm long. I intend to try make some chess pieces. Delivered late this afternoon so I have not had the chance to set it up and have a practice yet.
Sourcing the appropriate wood for the job will be fun, could be some trial and error involved there.
Peak Warming Man said:
party_pants said:
In other news, I have a new toy to play with. A mini lathe; and by mini I mean mini. Whole thing is about 40 cm long. I intend to try make some chess pieces. Delivered late this afternoon so I have not had the chance to set it up and have a practice yet.
Sourcing the appropriate wood for the job will be fun, could be some trial and error involved there.
Tasmanian oak for the white and WA jarrah for the dark should do nicely I reckon.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
In other news, I have a new toy to play with. A mini lathe; and by mini I mean mini. Whole thing is about 40 cm long. I intend to try make some chess pieces. Delivered late this afternoon so I have not had the chance to set it up and have a practice yet.
:) are there mini chisels?
Actually yes there are. It came with a pack of half a dozen. They are still unopened :)
What fun!
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said::) are there mini chisels?
Actually yes there are. It came with a pack of half a dozen. They are still unopened :)
What fun!
hours of endless!
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
party_pants said:
In other news, I have a new toy to play with. A mini lathe; and by mini I mean mini. Whole thing is about 40 cm long. I intend to try make some chess pieces. Delivered late this afternoon so I have not had the chance to set it up and have a practice yet.
Sourcing the appropriate wood for the job will be fun, could be some trial and error involved there.
Tasmanian oak for the white and WA jarrah for the dark should do nicely I reckon.
White sassafras would be spesh.
Peak Warming Man said:
I wouldn’t let scissors anywhere near my local member.
Me neither.
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Patricia Karvelas should not have been thrown out of Question Time for baring arms, Speaker saysEveryone has to wear black suits, no horrible navy blue suits either, black suits.
Can anyone else smell the election taint in the air?
(I’m still catching up with you lot)
I think it’s the faint whiff of death from the liberal party which has started to decompose while still somewhat living.
:)
LOL
:)
Bogsnorkler said:
Food Babe
What that nonsense got to do with food?
party_pants said:
In other news, I have a new toy to play with. A mini lathe; and by mini I mean mini. Whole thing is about 40 cm long. I intend to try make some chess pieces. Delivered late this afternoon so I have not had the chance to set it up and have a practice yet.
Where did you get that from?
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
In other news, I have a new toy to play with. A mini lathe; and by mini I mean mini. Whole thing is about 40 cm long. I intend to try make some chess pieces. Delivered late this afternoon so I have not had the chance to set it up and have a practice yet.
Where did you get that from?
Online purchase. Arrived from China.
https://www.newchic.com/raitool-power-tools-7395/p-1121255.html?gmcCountry=AU¤cy=AUD&createTmp=1&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=pla-hg-au-pc&utm_content=sun1&gclid=Cj0KCQiA6JjgBRDbARIsANfu58HHUeA_kDyLWvqvXCWJzVfplEUclzcWJffMSvQ8×9wR3j9QFaBIPCUaAimfEALw_wcB
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/nov/30/bowel-movement-change-the-way-you-poo-squatty-potty-toilet
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Almost an ad for Squatty potties
Anyone got a Squatty potty?
sarahs mum said:
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/nov/30/bowel-movement-change-the-way-you-poo-squatty-potty-toilet—-
Almost an ad for Squatty pottiesAnyone got a Squatty potty?
All except there is not a photo of one.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/nov/30/bowel-movement-change-the-way-you-poo-squatty-potty-toilet—-
Almost an ad for Squatty pottiesAnyone got a Squatty potty?
All except there is not a photo of one.
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Squatty+Potty&FORM=HDRSC2
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/nov/30/bowel-movement-change-the-way-you-poo-squatty-potty-toilet—-
Almost an ad for Squatty pottiesAnyone got a Squatty potty?
All except there is not a photo of one.
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Squatty+Potty&FORM=HDRSC2
Would look nicer if made of white sassafras :)
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:All except there is not a photo of one.
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Squatty+Potty&FORM=HDRSC2
Would look nicer if made of white sassafras :)
I’m thinking I would like one. But the plastic ones seem expensive for what they are. And it does seem like something else to keep clean.
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Squatty+Potty&FORM=HDRSC2
Would look nicer if made of white sassafras :)
I’m thinking I would like one. But the plastic ones seem expensive for what they are. And it does seem like something else to keep clean.
maybe just a paint tin under each foot would suffice, just to give it a try and see if it is comfortable.
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
In other news, I have a new toy to play with. A mini lathe; and by mini I mean mini. Whole thing is about 40 cm long. I intend to try make some chess pieces. Delivered late this afternoon so I have not had the chance to set it up and have a practice yet.
Where did you get that from?
Online purchase. Arrived from China.
Did they have metal lathes?
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
Michael V said:Where did you get that from?
Online purchase. Arrived from China.
Did they have metal lathes?
there’s lots of metal ones for sale online, of all sorts of varying sizes.
party_pants said:
https://www.newchic.com/raitool-power-tools-7395/p-1121255.html?gmcCountry=AU¤cy=AUD&createTmp=1&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=pla-hg-au-pc&utm_content=sun1&gclid=Cj0KCQiA6JjgBRDbARIsANfu58HHUeA_kDyLWvqvXCWJzVfplEUclzcWJffMSvQ8×9wR3j9QFaBIPCUaAimfEALw_wcB
Cheers!
What an interesting notion.
Michael V said:
Cheers!
What an interesting notion.
the metal working ones seems to be much more expensive, of course.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/04/britain-legally-cancel-brexit-eu-parliament-court-remain?CMP=fb_gu&fbclid=IwAR3lyQ9DMfwmMrh9645-ROkLry5dltHp7Y3r9h1GiwfB2mBrCiYAyWFItjg
Britain can legally cancel Brexit. That’s EU advice – but will parliament agree?
SWMBO convinced myself and elder sprog to watch a movie with her, as she’d heard good things about it.
Mission Impossible – Fallout. The latest iteration of this franchise.
DO NOT WATCH THIS MOVIE
party_pants said:
Michael V said:Cheers!
What an interesting notion.
the metal working ones seems to be much more expensive, of course.
Yeah. I had one in Armidale, (big 3 phase MoFo) but had to give it away when I moved to Brisbane. If I can clear some jobs here and make space, I may get another. Single phase this time.
sibeen said:
SWMBO convinced myself and elder sprog to watch a movie with her, as she’d heard good things about it.Mission Impossible – Fallout. The latest iteration of this franchise.
DO NOT WATCH THIS MOVIE
Ploise esplane.
sibeen said:
SWMBO convinced myself and elder sprog to watch a movie with her, as she’d heard good things about it.Mission Impossible – Fallout. The latest iteration of this franchise.
DO NOT WATCH THIS MOVIE
LOL
Not a problem.
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
SWMBO convinced myself and elder sprog to watch a movie with her, as she’d heard good things about it.Mission Impossible – Fallout. The latest iteration of this franchise.
DO NOT WATCH THIS MOVIE
Ploise esplane.
IT’S FUCKING DIRE.
sibeen said:
SWMBO convinced myself and elder sprog to watch a movie with her, as she’d heard good things about it.Mission Impossible – Fallout. The latest iteration of this franchise.
DO NOT WATCH THIS MOVIE
Just tell us the relevant details – did SWMBO enjoy the film?
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
SWMBO convinced myself and elder sprog to watch a movie with her, as she’d heard good things about it.Mission Impossible – Fallout. The latest iteration of this franchise.
DO NOT WATCH THIS MOVIE
Just tell us the relevant details – did SWMBO enjoy the film?
No. No-one could possibly enjoy this. I was embarrassed watching it.
It probably made a mint.

Bogsnorkler said:
Family’s always rough
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
SWMBO convinced myself and elder sprog to watch a movie with her, as she’d heard good things about it.Mission Impossible – Fallout. The latest iteration of this franchise.
DO NOT WATCH THIS MOVIE
Ploise esplane.
IT’S FUCKING DIRE.
Mark did the musical score?
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:Ploise esplane.
IT’S FUCKING DIRE.
Mark did the musical score?

Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:Ploise esplane.
IT’S FUCKING DIRE.
Mark did the musical score?
No, it’s far too soon. I cannot joke about it. The horror….
who’s got some nice coffee
make us one will ya
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:IT’S FUCKING DIRE.
Mark did the musical score?
No, it’s far too soon. I cannot joke about it. The horror….
Just finished watching an episode of ‘Maniac’ on Netflix for very similar reasons. Did not enjoy.
Bogsnorkler said:
:)
transition said:
who’s got some nice coffeemake us one will ya
I’m out of coffee. I’m not happy about it. I’m mostly a tea drinker but I like a couple of coffees each day.
transition said:
who’s got some nice coffeemake us one will ya
I have only instant in the house at this instant.
transition said:
who’s got some nice coffeemake us one will ya
Not at this time of night. What do you take me for, a caffeine addict?
dv said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:IT’S FUCKING DIRE.
Mark did the musical score?
I thought that site must have been taking the piss. Apparently not. I’ve just checked other reviews. I now feel sullied for the human race.
sarahs mum said:
transition said:
who’s got some nice coffeemake us one will ya
I’m out of coffee. I’m not happy about it. I’m mostly a tea drinker but I like a couple of coffees each day.
I only drink tea (black) to be polite. I get nothing out of it at all. Coffee on the other hand…
party_pants said:
transition said:
who’s got some nice coffeemake us one will ya
I have only instant in the house at this instant.
that’ll do, two heaped teaspoons, of coffee, same sugar , 1/3 milk, full cream, not that skim stuff.
party_pants said:
transition said:
who’s got some nice coffeemake us one will ya
I have only instant in the house at this instant.
:)
transition said:
party_pants said:
transition said:
who’s got some nice coffeemake us one will ya
I have only instant in the house at this instant.
that’ll do, two heaped teaspoons, of coffee, same sugar , 1/3 milk, full cream, not that skim stuff.
there is only hi-lo, but I can froth it up in the little machine.

underlining and sit there, had some + (plus) signs in it, too close to text I guess.
better go put the kettle on the flame
larry’s having a nice snooze here, tail around his nose

anyone got some outrageous music to go with the coffee, haven’t done that for a while
sibeen would have a frank zappa album somewhere
sibeen said:
dv said:
Michael V said:Mark did the musical score?
I thought that site must have been taking the piss. Apparently not. I’ve just checked other reviews. I now feel sullied for the human race.
transition said:
anyone got some outrageous music to go with the coffee, haven’t done that for a whilesibeen would have a frank zappa album somewhere
sibeen would have at least 15 Zappa albums lying around.
transition said:
anyone got some outrageous music to go with the coffee, haven’t done that for a whilesibeen would have a frank zappa album somewhere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOfZLb33uCg
transition said:
anyone got some outrageous music to go with the coffee, haven’t done that for a whilesibeen would have a frank zappa album somewhere
I have “Billy the Mountain” on vinyl, if you want to borrow it. I hope you have a good diamond needle on your turntable.
Michael V said:
transition said:
anyone got some outrageous music to go with the coffee, haven’t done that for a whilesibeen would have a frank zappa album somewhere
I have “Billy the Mountain” on vinyl, if you want to borrow it. I hope you have a good diamond needle on your turntable.
If I could work out how to make the NAS drive work I have several digital Zappas. Including “Jewish Princess”
sarahs mum said:
transition said:
anyone got some outrageous music to go with the coffee, haven’t done that for a whilesibeen would have a frank zappa album somewhere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOfZLb33uCg
:-) listen some of that
Lad next door must have the night off. Partying loud and hard. Good luck to him.
dv said:
sibeen said:
dv said:
I thought that site must have been taking the piss. Apparently not. I’ve just checked other reviews. I now feel sullied for the human race.
I do hope you watch it.
:)
sibeen said:
dv said:
sibeen said:I thought that site must have been taking the piss. Apparently not. I’ve just checked other reviews. I now feel sullied for the human race.
I do hope you watch it.
:)
Oh I will. And I’ll like it. Just to spite you.

got a twitch in my leg, be neural apoptosis I guess
transition said:
got a twitch in my leg, be neural apoptosis I guess
Or a tic.
Michael V said:
transition said:
got a twitch in my leg, be neural apoptosis I guessOr a tic.
or a tick
dv said:
Michael V said:
transition said:
got a twitch in my leg, be neural apoptosis I guessOr a tic.
or a tick
Hopefully not a paralysis tick. That’d make one cross.
Tick – cross.
Sigh.
Michael V said:
dv said:
Michael V said:Or a tic.
or a tick
Hopefully not a paralysis tick. That’d make one cross.
:)
I’ll give you a pass on that one
Michael V said:
transition said:
got a twitch in my leg, be neural apoptosis I guessOr a tic.
just need to dance
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
dv said:or a tick
Hopefully not a paralysis tick. That’d make one cross.
:)
I’ll give you a pass on that one
Ta.
:)
transition said:
Michael V said:
transition said:
got a twitch in my leg, be neural apoptosis I guessOr a tic.
just need to dance
Love the drawing. Made me smile.
:)
Michael V said:
Tick – cross.Sigh.
Yeah I got it
Heading for 25. Having a cup of tea then I’m off for a walk before it gets too warm.
Good morning Holidayers. We presently have 7 degrees and light fog. Going for a 29 today. Thirty-five tomorrow and 34 for Friday.
Bubblecar said:
Heading for 25. Having a cup of tea then I’m off for a walk before it gets too warm.
Good lad.
It’s cool here at the Redoubt, some dark clouds about, I’ve got a jumper on.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Heading for 25. Having a cup of tea then I’m off for a walk before it gets too warm.
Good lad.
It’s cool here at the Redoubt, some dark clouds about, I’ve got a jumper on.
Very pleasant morning out there, quite a few people taking exercise.
Breakfast now in the microwave: chopped cabbage, onion, garlic, green beans, cajun seasoning, soy sauce, black pepper. I’ll add an egg in its final minute.
Until mere moments ago, I didn’t know why Robert Plant’s song “Big Log” was called “Big Log”. I now know that means a long journey in trucker speak.
dv said:
Until mere moments ago, I didn’t know why Robert Plant’s song “Big Log” was called “Big Log”. I now know that means a long journey in trucker speak.
What did you think it was previously?
Sunny and heading for 30 today.
I’ve been changing the time on my iPad to mess with a game and now my screen time for today shows I’ve been using it for over 12 hours even though I’ve only been awake for one hour.
dv said:
Until mere moments ago, I didn’t know why Robert Plant’s song “Big Log” was called “Big Log”. I now know that means a long journey in trucker speak.
…and coincidentally that same album has a song…wait for it…Ship of Fools.
roughbarked said:
dv said:
Until mere moments ago, I didn’t know why Robert Plant’s song “Big Log” was called “Big Log”. I now know that means a long journey in trucker speak.
What did you think it was previously?
I did not have an idea.
Morning. Overcast and cool in the Styx. Has dv shit the bed? Rather early in WA…
Good morning everybody.
It’s not so oppressive today, thankfully.
23.4°C, 70% RH and mostly cloudy with gentle breezes. ORB = 26 mm. No smell of fires. Yay!. Hopefully the nice rain extinguished it. BoM tells me to expect 26°C and maybe a bit more rain.
I got one job completed yesterday. I suppose considering there were many small elements to the job, I could claim that I got 60 jobs done. But I won’t.
dv said:
roughbarked said:
dv said:
Until mere moments ago, I didn’t know why Robert Plant’s song “Big Log” was called “Big Log”. I now know that means a long journey in trucker speak.
What did you think it was previously?
I did not have an idea.
OK.
roughbarked said:
dv said:
roughbarked said:What did you think it was previously?
I did not have an idea.
OK.
But it made sense that Plant would do a song about Log
poikilotherm said:
Morning. Overcast and cool in the Styx. Has dv shit the bed? Rather early in WA…
Presumably he got out of bed to defecate and thus was researching something?
It’s not that early here, quite bright already
dv said:
It’s not that early here, quite bright already
Yes. I can see well by 5:20.
Curiosity spots shiny stone that may be a meteorite.
https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/space/curiosity-rover-spots-shiny-object-on-mars/news-story/2f34ddaec0478e0cc52ffde4ad5fa0bc
dv said:
It’s not that early here, quite bright already
best time of the day. quiet, cool etc.
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
It’s not that early here, quite bright already
best time of the day. quiet, cool etc.
Best time of the day anywhere, DST or nnot.
burn

. Punches Bundy Clock .
Morning all.
Bogsnorkler said:
burn
Having a sore elbow prevents him from working? Surely he can toggle his cock with his other hand?
Mornin, BUBF.
Divine Angel said:
Mornin, BUBF.
Morning BUGF.
How is stuff in QLD?
Interesting tv changes. For those playing at home, you may remember channel 10 was bought out by American network CBS earlier this year. They’ve already made some changes, like a new logo and launching a paid streaming service (because we all need another competitor in that market).
CBS owns the rights to US Survivor, which is currently shown on channel 9 here. Last night I saw an ad for the new 10 (paid) streaming service, which included a snippet of Survivor. This is not unexpected, of course, so perhaps future seasons of Survivor US will be on channel 10.
However, US Survivor usually has two seasons a year, and both last year and this year, the second season has overlapped with Australian Survivor. Maybe they’ll add in a whole new Survivor channel.
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
Mornin, BUBF.Morning BUGF.
How is stuff in QLD?
Hot. Humid. Hazy.
How’s stuff in the Deep South?
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
Mornin, BUBF.Morning BUGF.
How is stuff in QLD?
Hot. Humid. Hazy.
How’s stuff in the Deep South?
Based entirely upon what I can see out the window, I’m expecting light cloud clearing to a sunny afternoon of about 22°. Paperwork and development work today.
Are we all following the ‘Uncle Tony X’ series on The Betoota Advocate? Blood hilarious!
Oh what a day.
Mr PTSD’s granny flat’s HW heater exploded.
I have another round of antibiotics for this ongoing krud.
We took the dawgs to Mr PTSD’S place……ugh….to help the tenant. So we could help…not the dogs.
I have new edibles and a twining’s chai waiting for me. Warm fluffy tartan duds, sockies and a blanky.
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
It’s not that early here, quite bright already
best time of the day. quiet, cool etc.
Yep. You walians don’t do dls do ya?
kii said:
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
It’s not that early here, quite bright already
best time of the day. quiet, cool etc.
Yep. You walians don’t do dls do ya?
no. dunno if i really works for most here. i like it but i’m an early bird anyway.
kii said:
Oh what a day.
Mr PTSD’s granny flat’s HW heater exploded.
I have another round of antibiotics for this ongoing krud.
We took the dawgs to Mr PTSD’S place……ugh….to help the tenant. So we could help…not the dogs.I have new edibles and a twining’s chai waiting for me. Warm fluffy tartan duds, sockies and a blanky.
Hope your crud clears up soon. My older sister’s on heavy duty ABs for a severe ear infection accompanying her latest virus thingy.
GP has instructed her not to sneeze or blow her nose, which are difficult rules to follow under the circumstances.
She was wanting to help out in the younger sister’s shop (which is doing booming business now we’re in the Xmas season) but she was thinking the customers might not like seeing blood trickling out of her ears.
Bogsnorkler said:
kii said:
Bogsnorkler said:best time of the day. quiet, cool etc.
Yep. You walians don’t do dls do ya?
no. dunno if i really works for most here. i like it but i’m an early bird anyway.
Once upon a time I was an early bird. Then something happened. I just prefer to have light earlier in the day in summer.
Bubblecar said:
kii said:
Oh what a day.
Mr PTSD’s granny flat’s HW heater exploded.
I have another round of antibiotics for this ongoing krud.
We took the dawgs to Mr PTSD’S place……ugh….to help the tenant. So we could help…not the dogs.I have new edibles and a twining’s chai waiting for me. Warm fluffy tartan duds, sockies and a blanky.
Hope your crud clears up soon. My older sister’s on heavy duty ABs for a severe ear infection accompanying her latest virus thingy.
GP has instructed her not to sneeze or blow her nose, which are difficult rules to follow under the circumstances.
She was wanting to help out in the younger sister’s shop (which is doing booming business now we’re in the Xmas season) but she was thinking the customers might not like seeing blood trickling out of her ears.
Thanks, so do I. I have messes to make with paint and winter to enjoy!
Your poor sister, that sounds dreadful. I excelled in middle ear infections as a child. Apparently swimming didn’t suit my inner ear workings or something.
Divine Angel said:
Interesting tv changes. For those playing at home, you may remember channel 10 was bought out by American network CBS earlier this year. They’ve already made some changes, like a new logo and launching a paid streaming service (because we all need another competitor in that market).CBS owns the rights to US Survivor, which is currently shown on channel 9 here. Last night I saw an ad for the new 10 (paid) streaming service, which included a snippet of Survivor. This is not unexpected, of course, so perhaps future seasons of Survivor US will be on channel 10.
However, US Survivor usually has two seasons a year, and both last year and this year, the second season has overlapped with Australian Survivor. Maybe they’ll add in a whole new Survivor channel.
That explains the ‘peach’ and ‘boss’ thing on the tv guide…
(whoever thought that was a good idea should be shot, at least with things like 9life, you know it is a lifestyle channel- wtf is peach???
Although I must say its has been months since I watched ch 10 anyway, nothing on their lineup excites me enough to watch it, these days its mostly 9, sbs and abc if I even turn the TV on, I use it more as an oversized computer monitor than a tv…
kii said:
Bubblecar said:
kii said:
Oh what a day.
Mr PTSD’s granny flat’s HW heater exploded.
I have another round of antibiotics for this ongoing krud.
We took the dawgs to Mr PTSD’S place……ugh….to help the tenant. So we could help…not the dogs.I have new edibles and a twining’s chai waiting for me. Warm fluffy tartan duds, sockies and a blanky.
Hope your crud clears up soon. My older sister’s on heavy duty ABs for a severe ear infection accompanying her latest virus thingy.
GP has instructed her not to sneeze or blow her nose, which are difficult rules to follow under the circumstances.
She was wanting to help out in the younger sister’s shop (which is doing booming business now we’re in the Xmas season) but she was thinking the customers might not like seeing blood trickling out of her ears.
Thanks, so do I. I have messes to make with paint and winter to enjoy!
Your poor sister, that sounds dreadful. I excelled in middle ear infections as a child. Apparently swimming didn’t suit my inner ear workings or something.
My sister’s very prone to ear infections because she’s retained “infantile ear canals” or something. Children get ear infections because the tubing is sloped so that the crud is prone to seeping into the ear canal thingy, but as their skulls develop that slope changes direction. Hers never did for some reason.
Enjoy your painting. My latest one should be finished by next week. I’ll post some update snaps soon.
boppa said:
Divine Angel said:
Interesting tv changes. For those playing at home, you may remember channel 10 was bought out by American network CBS earlier this year. They’ve already made some changes, like a new logo and launching a paid streaming service (because we all need another competitor in that market).CBS owns the rights to US Survivor, which is currently shown on channel 9 here. Last night I saw an ad for the new 10 (paid) streaming service, which included a snippet of Survivor. This is not unexpected, of course, so perhaps future seasons of Survivor US will be on channel 10.
However, US Survivor usually has two seasons a year, and both last year and this year, the second season has overlapped with Australian Survivor. Maybe they’ll add in a whole new Survivor channel.
That explains the ‘peach’ and ‘boss’ thing on the tv guide…
(whoever thought that was a good idea should be shot, at least with things like 9life, you know it is a lifestyle channel- wtf is peach???
Although I must say its has been months since I watched ch 10 anyway, nothing on their lineup excites me enough to watch it, these days its mostly 9, sbs and abc if I even turn the TV on, I use it more as an oversized computer monitor than a tv…
I’ve only watched my TV once since the last move. I ought to watch it at least once more before the relatives visit me soon, ‘cos then it’ll be replaced by a better one.
Bubblecar said:
kii said:
Bubblecar said:Hope your crud clears up soon. My older sister’s on heavy duty ABs for a severe ear infection accompanying her latest virus thingy.
GP has instructed her not to sneeze or blow her nose, which are difficult rules to follow under the circumstances.
She was wanting to help out in the younger sister’s shop (which is doing booming business now we’re in the Xmas season) but she was thinking the customers might not like seeing blood trickling out of her ears.
Thanks, so do I. I have messes to make with paint and winter to enjoy!
Your poor sister, that sounds dreadful. I excelled in middle ear infections as a child. Apparently swimming didn’t suit my inner ear workings or something.
My sister’s very prone to ear infections because she’s retained “infantile ear canals” or something. Children get ear infections because the tubing is sloped so that the crud is prone to seeping into the ear canal thingy, but as their skulls develop that slope changes direction. Hers never did for some reason.
Enjoy your painting. My latest one should be finished by next week. I’ll post some update snaps soon.
I have heard of that problem :(
I think I was just in the water so much that ALL THE GREEBLIES went into my ear canals.
Bubblecar said:
boppa said:
Divine Angel said:
Interesting tv changes. For those playing at home, you may remember channel 10 was bought out by American network CBS earlier this year. They’ve already made some changes, like a new logo and launching a paid streaming service (because we all need another competitor in that market).CBS owns the rights to US Survivor, which is currently shown on channel 9 here. Last night I saw an ad for the new 10 (paid) streaming service, which included a snippet of Survivor. This is not unexpected, of course, so perhaps future seasons of Survivor US will be on channel 10.
However, US Survivor usually has two seasons a year, and both last year and this year, the second season has overlapped with Australian Survivor. Maybe they’ll add in a whole new Survivor channel.
That explains the ‘peach’ and ‘boss’ thing on the tv guide…
(whoever thought that was a good idea should be shot, at least with things like 9life, you know it is a lifestyle channel- wtf is peach???
Although I must say its has been months since I watched ch 10 anyway, nothing on their lineup excites me enough to watch it, these days its mostly 9, sbs and abc if I even turn the TV on, I use it more as an oversized computer monitor than a tv…
I’ve only watched my TV once since the last move. I ought to watch it at least once more before the relatives visit me soon, ‘cos then it’ll be replaced by a better one.
I just shocked that they make two series of Survivor per annum.
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
boppa said:That explains the ‘peach’ and ‘boss’ thing on the tv guide…
(whoever thought that was a good idea should be shot, at least with things like 9life, you know it is a lifestyle channel- wtf is peach???
Although I must say its has been months since I watched ch 10 anyway, nothing on their lineup excites me enough to watch it, these days its mostly 9, sbs and abc if I even turn the TV on, I use it more as an oversized computer monitor than a tv…
I’ve only watched my TV once since the last move. I ought to watch it at least once more before the relatives visit me soon, ‘cos then it’ll be replaced by a better one.
I just shocked that they make two series of Survivor per annum.
Reality TV is like a gold mine for TV – incredibly cheap and rather effortless compared to making an actual drama/etc type show with actors and writers etc etc
It’s bin day. Our recycling bin is completely full and we have another garbage bin-sized bin full, plus boxes. If we wait until our bin is empty, we’ll be starting with a half full bin.
I know neither of my neighbours will mind if I put some stuff in their bins, but I feel compelled to ask.
boppa said:
Divine Angel said:
Interesting tv changes. For those playing at home, you may remember channel 10 was bought out by American network CBS earlier this year. They’ve already made some changes, like a new logo and launching a paid streaming service (because we all need another competitor in that market).CBS owns the rights to US Survivor, which is currently shown on channel 9 here. Last night I saw an ad for the new 10 (paid) streaming service, which included a snippet of Survivor. This is not unexpected, of course, so perhaps future seasons of Survivor US will be on channel 10.
However, US Survivor usually has two seasons a year, and both last year and this year, the second season has overlapped with Australian Survivor. Maybe they’ll add in a whole new Survivor channel.
That explains the ‘peach’ and ‘boss’ thing on the tv guide…
(whoever thought that was a good idea should be shot, at least with things like 9life, you know it is a lifestyle channel- wtf is peach???
Although I must say its has been months since I watched ch 10 anyway, nothing on their lineup excites me enough to watch it, these days its mostly 9, sbs and abc if I even turn the TV on, I use it more as an oversized computer monitor than a tv…
I laughed when they announced Peach. The peach emoji is often used as a metaphor for backside 🍑
I read an article which confirms all 36 seasons of US Survivor are on the new paid 10 streaming service.
Divine Angel said:
It’s bin day. Our recycling bin is completely full and we have another garbage bin-sized bin full, plus boxes. If we wait until our bin is empty, we’ll be starting with a half full bin.I know neither of my neighbours will mind if I put some stuff in their bins, but I feel compelled to ask.
Might need to implement the ‘jump on it first’ program. MiniYou will be delighted.
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
It’s bin day. Our recycling bin is completely full and we have another garbage bin-sized bin full, plus boxes. If we wait until our bin is empty, we’ll be starting with a half full bin.I know neither of my neighbours will mind if I put some stuff in their bins, but I feel compelled to ask.
Might need to implement the ‘jump on it first’ program. MiniYou will be delighted.
We do that already.
We would take our bottles to the cash-for-containers places but none are open around here yet despite what the website says.
Divine Angel said:
It’s bin day. Our recycling bin is completely full and we have another garbage bin-sized bin full, plus boxes. If we wait until our bin is empty, we’ll be starting with a half full bin.I know neither of my neighbours will mind if I put some stuff in their bins, but I feel compelled to ask.
:)
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
It’s bin day. Our recycling bin is completely full and we have another garbage bin-sized bin full, plus boxes. If we wait until our bin is empty, we’ll be starting with a half full bin.I know neither of my neighbours will mind if I put some stuff in their bins, but I feel compelled to ask.
Might need to implement the ‘jump on it first’ program. MiniYou will be delighted.
We do that already.
We would take our bottles to the cash-for-containers places but none are open around here yet despite what the website says.
Ugh. Bugger.
Does your ‘recycling’ waste actually go to a recycling facility and get recycled? Pretty sure it all goes into landfill down here. No market for it, or some such.
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:Might need to implement the ‘jump on it first’ program. MiniYou will be delighted.
We do that already.
We would take our bottles to the cash-for-containers places but none are open around here yet despite what the website says.
Ugh. Bugger.
Does your ‘recycling’ waste actually go to a recycling facility and get recycled? Pretty sure it all goes into landfill down here. No market for it, or some such.
I love our tip, figuratively that is, a spot for everything that can be recycled or reused.
“The annual cost of superannuation tax breaks to the budget is about quadruple the savings being made in Age Pension outlay”
rofl, super…
poikilotherm said:
“The annual cost of superannuation tax breaks to the budget is about quadruple the savings being made in Age Pension outlay”rofl, super…
Some would say the biggest threat to your long-term financial security is change in government policy, some would.
Greetings
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
It’s bin day. Our recycling bin is completely full and we have another garbage bin-sized bin full, plus boxes. If we wait until our bin is empty, we’ll be starting with a half full bin.I know neither of my neighbours will mind if I put some stuff in their bins, but I feel compelled to ask.
Might need to implement the ‘jump on it first’ program. MiniYou will be delighted.
We do that already.
We would take our bottles to the cash-for-containers places but none are open around here yet despite what the website says.
Is your recycling weekly or fortnightly, our is fortnightly when it should be weekly and the rubbish perhaps fortnightly as its rarely full (the smell perhaps is a factor for weekly collection)
I was wondering yesterday at work as we have a recycling bin if its actually useful, does it get recycled as claimed or is it dumped in landfill.
Was also thinking what sort of toxins are released when coloured cardboard is recycled.
Perhaps all cardboard for packaging should be plain, it wouldn’t look fancy and attract attention for the product sold but it might be more environmentally friendly.
poikilotherm said:
“The annual cost of superannuation tax breaks to the budget is about quadruple the savings being made in Age Pension outlay”rofl, super…
Is that from the Oz? Can you post the entire article?
>Perhaps all cardboard for packaging should be plain, it wouldn’t look fancy and attract attention for the product sold but it might be more environmentally friendly.
you’re a terrorist, ideas like that could cause the collapse of consumerism, and capitalism
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:
“The annual cost of superannuation tax breaks to the budget is about quadruple the savings being made in Age Pension outlay”rofl, super…
Is that from the Oz? Can you post the entire article?
The calculations would be interesting, since in most cases the tax is delayed rather than being removed, and most of the savings to the budget are far in the future.
I suspect that the calculations can be done to demonstrate whatever conclusion you choose.
Nonetheless, I’d support changes that made the costs and benefits more obvious, rather than hiding the costs. The easiest way would be to make the age pension available to everyone, regardless of income, and increase taxes on high incomes to pay for it.
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:
“The annual cost of superannuation tax breaks to the budget is about quadruple the savings being made in Age Pension outlay”rofl, super…
Is that from the Oz? Can you post the entire article?
This seems to be the article:
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/treasury/super-system-exposed-by-cost-of-tax-concessions/news-story/c2b6ec11b7a91d826b47bfc368f525ed
Subscriber only.
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:Might need to implement the ‘jump on it first’ program. MiniYou will be delighted.
We do that already.
We would take our bottles to the cash-for-containers places but none are open around here yet despite what the website says.
Ugh. Bugger.
Does your ‘recycling’ waste actually go to a recycling facility and get recycled? Pretty sure it all goes into landfill down here. No market for it, or some such.
The council assure us our recycling goes to South Korea, not China or landfill.
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:
“The annual cost of superannuation tax breaks to the budget is about quadruple the savings being made in Age Pension outlay”rofl, super…
Is that from the Oz? Can you post the entire article?
Yea, Cretin Creighton article. No.
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:We do that already.
We would take our bottles to the cash-for-containers places but none are open around here yet despite what the website says.
Ugh. Bugger.
Does your ‘recycling’ waste actually go to a recycling facility and get recycled? Pretty sure it all goes into landfill down here. No market for it, or some such.
The council assure us our recycling goes to South Korea, not China or landfill.
ABC had a series on waste recycling in the UK and they put RFID tags on random recycled waste to track were it went some did get recycled and others dumped in land fill
Cymek said:
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:Might need to implement the ‘jump on it first’ program. MiniYou will be delighted.
We do that already.
We would take our bottles to the cash-for-containers places but none are open around here yet despite what the website says.
Is your recycling weekly or fortnightly, our is fortnightly when it should be weekly and the rubbish perhaps fortnightly as its rarely full (the smell perhaps is a factor for weekly collection)
I was wondering yesterday at work as we have a recycling bin if its actually useful, does it get recycled as claimed or is it dumped in landfill.
Was also thinking what sort of toxins are released when coloured cardboard is recycled.
Perhaps all cardboard for packaging should be plain, it wouldn’t look fancy and attract attention for the product sold but it might be more environmentally friendly.
No doubt some of it ends up in landfill, but I still think we should do it anyway to sort out some of the high value items like aluminium. The manufacture of aluminium is very energy intensive using lots of electricity (and therefore carbon emissions) to make, but there is a saving of 95% energy costs in recycling. So I think it is definitely worthwhile.
Other stuff I am not so sure about, I have heard that glass is more economical to make brand new containers rather than recycle becasue of the transport costs associated with its weight.
party_pants said:
Cymek said:
Divine Angel said:We do that already.
We would take our bottles to the cash-for-containers places but none are open around here yet despite what the website says.
Is your recycling weekly or fortnightly, our is fortnightly when it should be weekly and the rubbish perhaps fortnightly as its rarely full (the smell perhaps is a factor for weekly collection)
I was wondering yesterday at work as we have a recycling bin if its actually useful, does it get recycled as claimed or is it dumped in landfill.
Was also thinking what sort of toxins are released when coloured cardboard is recycled.
Perhaps all cardboard for packaging should be plain, it wouldn’t look fancy and attract attention for the product sold but it might be more environmentally friendly.
No doubt some of it ends up in landfill, but I still think we should do it anyway to sort out some of the high value items like aluminium. The manufacture of aluminium is very energy intensive using lots of electricity (and therefore carbon emissions) to make, but there is a saving of 95% energy costs in recycling. So I think it is definitely worthwhile.
Other stuff I am not so sure about, I have heard that glass is more economical to make brand new containers rather than recycle becasue of the transport costs associated with its weight.
I’d assume (but maybe shouldn’t) that lots of research has gone into alternative uses for recyclable products.
I think it was tyres and/or plastic that was ground up and used for road and path surfaces
Cymek said:
party_pants said:
Cymek said:Is your recycling weekly or fortnightly, our is fortnightly when it should be weekly and the rubbish perhaps fortnightly as its rarely full (the smell perhaps is a factor for weekly collection)
I was wondering yesterday at work as we have a recycling bin if its actually useful, does it get recycled as claimed or is it dumped in landfill.
Was also thinking what sort of toxins are released when coloured cardboard is recycled.
Perhaps all cardboard for packaging should be plain, it wouldn’t look fancy and attract attention for the product sold but it might be more environmentally friendly.
No doubt some of it ends up in landfill, but I still think we should do it anyway to sort out some of the high value items like aluminium. The manufacture of aluminium is very energy intensive using lots of electricity (and therefore carbon emissions) to make, but there is a saving of 95% energy costs in recycling. So I think it is definitely worthwhile.
Other stuff I am not so sure about, I have heard that glass is more economical to make brand new containers rather than recycle becasue of the transport costs associated with its weight.
I’d assume (but maybe shouldn’t) that lots of research has gone into alternative uses for recyclable products.
I think it was tyres and/or plastic that was ground up and used for road and path surfaces
I would hope so. Part of the problem is logistics of course. Lots of effort goes into making distribution networks more efficient, this needs a reverse distribution network to collect and process efficiently.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:
“The annual cost of superannuation tax breaks to the budget is about quadruple the savings being made in Age Pension outlay”rofl, super…
Is that from the Oz? Can you post the entire article?
The calculations would be interesting, since in most cases the tax is delayed rather than being removed, and most of the savings to the budget are far in the future.
I suspect that the calculations can be done to demonstrate whatever conclusion you choose.
Nonetheless, I’d support changes that made the costs and benefits more obvious, rather than hiding the costs. The easiest way would be to make the age pension available to everyone, regardless of income, and increase taxes on high incomes to pay for it.
Great idea. Won’t happen, because the important pollies are well in that highest tax bracket.
party_pants said:
Cymek said:
party_pants said:No doubt some of it ends up in landfill, but I still think we should do it anyway to sort out some of the high value items like aluminium. The manufacture of aluminium is very energy intensive using lots of electricity (and therefore carbon emissions) to make, but there is a saving of 95% energy costs in recycling. So I think it is definitely worthwhile.
Other stuff I am not so sure about, I have heard that glass is more economical to make brand new containers rather than recycle becasue of the transport costs associated with its weight.
I’d assume (but maybe shouldn’t) that lots of research has gone into alternative uses for recyclable products.
I think it was tyres and/or plastic that was ground up and used for road and path surfaces
I would hope so. Part of the problem is logistics of course. Lots of effort goes into making distribution networks more efficient, this needs a reverse distribution network to collect and process efficiently.
It’s a massive industry all because of packaging.
When I’m King I’m going to ban packaging and jet skis.
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Is that from the Oz? Can you post the entire article?
The calculations would be interesting, since in most cases the tax is delayed rather than being removed, and most of the savings to the budget are far in the future.
I suspect that the calculations can be done to demonstrate whatever conclusion you choose.
Nonetheless, I’d support changes that made the costs and benefits more obvious, rather than hiding the costs. The easiest way would be to make the age pension available to everyone, regardless of income, and increase taxes on high incomes to pay for it.
Great idea. Won’t happen, because the important pollies are well in that highest tax bracket.
How much money is enough I wonder, how rich do you need to be.
If you can live a decent comfortable life with your needs and most wants met isn’t that enough.
It seems people increase what they spend and upgraded to more expensive goods when they have more money to the point of buying ridiculously priced items.
Cymek said:
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:The calculations would be interesting, since in most cases the tax is delayed rather than being removed, and most of the savings to the budget are far in the future.
I suspect that the calculations can be done to demonstrate whatever conclusion you choose.
Nonetheless, I’d support changes that made the costs and benefits more obvious, rather than hiding the costs. The easiest way would be to make the age pension available to everyone, regardless of income, and increase taxes on high incomes to pay for it.
Great idea. Won’t happen, because the important pollies are well in that highest tax bracket.
How much money is enough I wonder, how rich do you need to be.
If you can live a decent comfortable life with your needs and most wants met isn’t that enough.
It seems people increase what they spend and upgraded to more expensive goods when they have more money to the point of buying ridiculously priced items.
Listening to a perfesser the other night on the radio, he says shopping is a drug, releases endorphins and gratifies parts of the brain.
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s a massive industry all because of packaging.
When I’m King I’m going to ban packaging and jet skis.
You don’t have to ban jet-skis.
You just have to introduce yakuza rules. You can have a jet-ski, but it’s mandatory that your little finger be amputated with a sharp knife and no anaesthetic.
“Do i want a jet-ski that much?”
I bought a different couscous today. It has high altitude cooking directions. Don’t always see that.
Peak Warming Man said:
Cymek said:
Michael V said:Great idea. Won’t happen, because the important pollies are well in that highest tax bracket.
How much money is enough I wonder, how rich do you need to be.
If you can live a decent comfortable life with your needs and most wants met isn’t that enough.
It seems people increase what they spend and upgraded to more expensive goods when they have more money to the point of buying ridiculously priced items.
Listening to a perfesser the other night on the radio, he says shopping is a drug, releases endorphins and gratifies parts of the brain.
Yeah it comes across as the pinnacle or human achievement
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:It’s a massive industry all because of packaging.
When I’m King I’m going to ban packaging and jet skis.
You don’t have to ban jet-skis.
You just have to introduce yakuza rules. You can have a jet-ski, but it’s mandatory that your little finger be amputated with a sharp knife and no anaesthetic.
“Do i want a jet-ski that much?”
I prefer regulation: you can use jet-skis only within these designated areas.
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:It’s a massive industry all because of packaging.
When I’m King I’m going to ban packaging and jet skis.
You don’t have to ban jet-skis.
You just have to introduce yakuza rules. You can have a jet-ski, but it’s mandatory that your little finger be amputated with a sharp knife and no anaesthetic.
“Do i want a jet-ski that much?”
I prefer regulation: you can use jet-skis only within these designated areas.
JET SKIS RULE!!!
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:It’s a massive industry all because of packaging.
When I’m King I’m going to ban packaging and jet skis.
You don’t have to ban jet-skis.
You just have to introduce yakuza rules. You can have a jet-ski, but it’s mandatory that your little finger be amputated with a sharp knife and no anaesthetic.
“Do i want a jet-ski that much?”
I prefer regulation: you can use jet-skis only within these designated areas.
Yeah, I’d be OK with that.
The 7 or 8 acres that covers the summit of Mount Kosciuszko seems like a good choice.
Cymek said:
Was also thinking what sort of toxins are released when coloured cardboard is recycled.
Perhaps all cardboard for packaging should be plain, it wouldn’t look fancy and attract attention for the product sold but it might be more environmentally friendly.
most printing inks these days are safe. OH&S in the printing industry has seen to that.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:You don’t have to ban jet-skis.
You just have to introduce yakuza rules. You can have a jet-ski, but it’s mandatory that your little finger be amputated with a sharp knife and no anaesthetic.
“Do i want a jet-ski that much?”
I prefer regulation: you can use jet-skis only within these designated areas.
Yeah, I’d be OK with that.
The 7 or 8 acres that covers the summit of Mount Kosciuszko seems like a good choice.
… and on top of Ayers Rock.
Bogsnorkler said:
Cymek said:Was also thinking what sort of toxins are released when coloured cardboard is recycled.
Perhaps all cardboard for packaging should be plain, it wouldn’t look fancy and attract attention for the product sold but it might be more environmentally friendly.
most printing inks these days are safe. OH&S in the printing industry has seen to that.
That’s good
kii said:
I bought a different couscous today. It has high altitude cooking directions. Don’t always see that.
you monster!!!!

Peak Warming Man said:
Cymek said:
Michael V said:Great idea. Won’t happen, because the important pollies are well in that highest tax bracket.
How much money is enough I wonder, how rich do you need to be.
If you can live a decent comfortable life with your needs and most wants met isn’t that enough.
It seems people increase what they spend and upgraded to more expensive goods when they have more money to the point of buying ridiculously priced items.
Listening to a perfesser the other night on the radio, he says shopping is a drug, releases endorphins and gratifies parts of the brain.
My older sister has a severe addiction to shopping.
When they sold the Killara house so they could move into their harbourside 5th floor apartment with easterly views, but no room for a pony, and before they added the southern higlands mansion to their portfolio (plenty of room for a pony), they had a garage dale. At least 30% of what was sold was her designer clothing….unopened packets of shirts, hardly worn beautiful shoes, multiples of the dame item inn different colours. Not worn.
Her addiction came from the hell of a couple of IVF failures.
Elvis_Rieu said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:You don’t have to ban jet-skis.
You just have to introduce yakuza rules. You can have a jet-ski, but it’s mandatory that your little finger be amputated with a sharp knife and no anaesthetic.
“Do i want a jet-ski that much?”
I prefer regulation: you can use jet-skis only within these designated areas.
JET SKIS RULE!!!
If only someone could think of a purpose for them, other than going around, and around, and around, and around…
Bogsnorkler said:
kii said:
I bought a different couscous today. It has high altitude cooking directions. Don’t always see that.
you monster!!!!
Oh pltttt!
I think the mix of medical cannabis and Benadryl has just kicked in…..Horley dooley.
Cymek said:
How much money is enough I wonder, how rich do you need to be.
If you can live a decent comfortable life with your needs and most wants met isn’t that enough.
Having Beulah peel all my grapes would be a decent and comfortable life methinks.
I have a blocked nose, sorry for the mistypes.
Woodie said:
Cymek said:How much money is enough I wonder, how rich do you need to be.
If you can live a decent comfortable life with your needs and most wants met isn’t that enough.Having Beulah peel all my grapes would be a decent and comfortable life methinks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XdC1HUp-rU
Bogsnorkler said:
Woodie said:
Cymek said:How much money is enough I wonder, how rich do you need to be.
If you can live a decent comfortable life with your needs and most wants met isn’t that enough.Having Beulah peel all my grapes would be a decent and comfortable life methinks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XdC1HUp-rU
Let’s see a automatic overlocker do that!
captain_spalding said:
Elvis_Rieu said:
party_pants said:I prefer regulation: you can use jet-skis only within these designated areas.
JET SKIS RULE!!!
If only someone could think of a purpose for them, other than going around, and around, and around, and around…
they’re great for towing surfers out to sea.
not so great for long voyages in remote terrain. There was a group that tried to jet-ski the North-West passage around Alaska and Canada. They failed.
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
Elvis_Rieu said:JET SKIS RULE!!!
If only someone could think of a purpose for them, other than going around, and around, and around, and around…
they’re great for towing surfers out to sea.
not so great for long voyages in remote terrain. There was a group that tried to jet-ski the North-West passage around Alaska and Canada. They failed.
I own a Jet Ski rental in Fiji and they are often used by drunk Aussies trying to scare swimmers and local wildlife, S W E E T.
Dinner = cold bbq chook, basil garlic pearl couscous and some mixed vegetables from the freezer. I have a Sanpellegrino – Clementina to sip whilst dining.
Elvis_Rieu said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:If only someone could think of a purpose for them, other than going around, and around, and around, and around…
they’re great for towing surfers out to sea.
not so great for long voyages in remote terrain. There was a group that tried to jet-ski the North-West passage around Alaska and Canada. They failed.
I own a Jet Ski rental in Fiji and they are often used by drunk Aussies trying to scare swimmers and local wildlife, S W E E T.
Australians getting drunk and anti-social overseas??
Oh man, pull the other one. I always suspected this was a fake login.
party_pants said:
they’re great for towing surfers out to sea.
not so great for long voyages in remote terrain. There was a group that tried to jet-ski the North-West passage around Alaska and Canada. They failed.
Yes, they are good tow-in vehicles.
Definitely not good for operating anywhere beyond swim-to-shore distance.
Years back, there was a name for jet-ski riders who insisted on getting too close to warships (and other ships) in Sydney Harbour: paint-scratchers.
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:they’re great for towing surfers out to sea.
not so great for long voyages in remote terrain. There was a group that tried to jet-ski the North-West passage around Alaska and Canada. They failed.
Yes, they are good tow-in vehicles.
Definitely not good for operating anywhere beyond swim-to-shore distance.
Years back, there was a name for jet-ski riders who insisted on getting too close to warships (and other ships) in Sydney Harbour: paint-scratchers.
should have the ciws active.
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:they’re great for towing surfers out to sea.
not so great for long voyages in remote terrain. There was a group that tried to jet-ski the North-West passage around Alaska and Canada. They failed.
Yes, they are good tow-in vehicles.
Definitely not good for operating anywhere beyond swim-to-shore distance.
Years back, there was a name for jet-ski riders who insisted on getting too close to warships (and other ships) in Sydney Harbour: paint-scratchers.
Can they use the Phalanx CIWS on them as target practice
Cymek said:
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:they’re great for towing surfers out to sea.
not so great for long voyages in remote terrain. There was a group that tried to jet-ski the North-West passage around Alaska and Canada. They failed.
Yes, they are good tow-in vehicles.
Definitely not good for operating anywhere beyond swim-to-shore distance.
Years back, there was a name for jet-ski riders who insisted on getting too close to warships (and other ships) in Sydney Harbour: paint-scratchers.
Can they use the Phalanx CIWS on them as target practice
you guys are so mean.
party_pants said:
Cymek said:
captain_spalding said:Yes, they are good tow-in vehicles.
Definitely not good for operating anywhere beyond swim-to-shore distance.
Years back, there was a name for jet-ski riders who insisted on getting too close to warships (and other ships) in Sydney Harbour: paint-scratchers.
Can they use the Phalanx CIWS on them as target practice
you guys are so mean.
and that’s why we aren’t in responsible positions.
*sniffs armpits*
*opens door*
*coughs on the door handles*
*exits forum*
Well, I’ll piss off.
Surf clubs use some types of Jet-skies for rescue purposes, too, of course.
That’s a good use, but i’m always really annoyed when i see some clubbie, usually one of the younger ones, abusing the equipment for the sake of a pose in front of the punters.
Surf club had a 40 hp outboard for sale a few years back, and i was thinking of buying it, until a senior clubbie told me not to bother, all SLSC outboards have had nine shades of poop thrashed out of them by the time they’re retired. They’re everyone’s toy, and no-one’s responsibility.
kii said:
*sniffs armpits**opens door*
*coughs on the door handles*
*exits forum*
Well, I’ll piss off.
Thank you, Typhoid Mary.
captain_spalding said:
Surf clubs use some types of Jet-skies for rescue purposes, too, of course.That’s a good use, but i’m always really annoyed when i see some clubbie, usually one of the younger ones, abusing the equipment for the sake of a pose in front of the punters.
Surf club had a 40 hp outboard for sale a few years back, and i was thinking of buying it, until a senior clubbie told me not to bother, all SLSC outboards have had nine shades of poop thrashed out of them by the time they’re retired. They’re everyone’s toy, and no-one’s responsibility.
I don’t want to pry but …. have you got a boat?
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
Surf clubs use some types of Jet-skies for rescue purposes, too, of course.That’s a good use, but i’m always really annoyed when i see some clubbie, usually one of the younger ones, abusing the equipment for the sake of a pose in front of the punters.
Surf club had a 40 hp outboard for sale a few years back, and i was thinking of buying it, until a senior clubbie told me not to bother, all SLSC outboards have had nine shades of poop thrashed out of them by the time they’re retired. They’re everyone’s toy, and no-one’s responsibility.
I don’t want to pry but …. have you got a boat?
No. There was one i was interested in at the time, but it would have needed a motor, and it seemed like a fortuitous coincidence.
Today is a very good day.
Just got a text message saying that my 17 year old niece’s cancer is in remission.
>>No.
stops reading
sibeen said:
Today is a very good day.Just got a text message saying that my 17 year old niece’s cancer is in remission.
Excellent.
sibeen said:
Today is a very good day.Just got a text message saying that my 17 year old niece’s cancer is in remission.
that is excellent news.
sibeen said:
Today is a very good day.Just got a text message saying that my 17 year old niece’s cancer is in remission.
That’s the kind of news that makes everyone feel a bit better. Mazel tov!
Peak Warming Man said:
>>No.stops reading
I have had boats in the past.
Do i qualify as ‘acolyte’?
Hello Lunchtimers. Mmm, crumbly fetta wrapped in Iceberg lettuce leaves. I like it.
sibeen said:
Today is a very good day.Just got a text message saying that my 17 year old niece’s cancer is in remission.
HOORAY! :)
sibeen said:
Today is a very good day.Just got a text message saying that my 17 year old niece’s cancer is in remission.
good news.
sibeen said:
Today is a very good day.Just got a text message saying that my 17 year old niece’s cancer is in remission.
Excellent. there needs to be good news these days and this kind of good news is great news.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:
“The annual cost of superannuation tax breaks to the budget is about quadruple the savings being made in Age Pension outlay”rofl, super…
Is that from the Oz? Can you post the entire article?
The calculations would be interesting, since in most cases the tax is delayed rather than being removed, and most of the savings to the budget are far in the future.
I suspect that the calculations can be done to demonstrate whatever conclusion you choose.
Nonetheless, I’d support changes that made the costs and benefits more obvious, rather than hiding the costs. The easiest way would be to make the age pension available to everyone, regardless of income, and increase taxes on high incomes to pay for it.
I reckon sometime in the 1970s (?) the age pension was made universal and it just got added to your income and you had to put in a tax return. So if all you got was the pension, you were under the limit. Otherwise it got added to income and more tax got paid.
Sounds like another debarcle on its way. Just had an Indian spruiking a government $2225 grant to get me to sign up for solar. I told him I wasn’t sure it was legislated yet but he assured me it was. (might be true). Then he asked how much I paid, I told him $17 a fortnight which seemed to astonish him, (and he quickly forgot about because he later said), “you are needing no deposit and no credit check and for this house only 95 dollars a month and you are already paying 90 isn’t it and then you get no more bills”.
I told him I had crunched the numbers previously and solar didn’t work for me, but I will look at the governments new scheme and look at them again. He said 15 people in the town had already signed up, which is true, doesn’t say much for the local financial literacy, moreover it means this thing will be huge.
If I decide to go solar I will wait for things to shake out and settle and wait till the various companies have developed reputations, also it means a huge surge in production so things will get cheaper toward the end.
AwesomeO said:
Sounds like another debarcle on its way. Just had an Indian spruiking a government $2225 grant to get me to sign up for solar. I told him I wasn’t sure it was legislated yet but he assured me it was. (might be true). Then he asked how much I paid, I told him $17 a fortnight which seemed to astonish him, (and he quickly forgot about because he later said), “you are needing no deposit and no credit check and for this house only 95 dollars a month and you are already paying 90 isn’t it and then you get no more bills”.I told him I had crunched the numbers previously and solar didn’t work for me, but I will look at the governments new scheme and look at them again. He said 15 people in the town had already signed up, which is true, doesn’t say much for the local financial literacy, moreover it means this thing will be huge.
If I decide to go solar I will wait for things to shake out and settle and wait till the various companies have developed reputations, also it means a huge surge in production so things will get cheaper toward the end.
It’s the solar energy scam.
yes. The money from the govt is there. You don’t need India to get at it. You certainly don’t get with an ITunes card.
Debacle.
AwesomeO said:
Sounds like another debarcle on its way. Just had an Indian spruiking a government $2225 grant to get me to sign up for solar. I told him I wasn’t sure it was legislated yet but he assured me it was. (might be true). Then he asked how much I paid, I told him $17 a fortnight which seemed to astonish him, (and he quickly forgot about because he later said), “you are needing no deposit and no credit check and for this house only 95 dollars a month and you are already paying 90 isn’t it and then you get no more bills”.I told him I had crunched the numbers previously and solar didn’t work for me, but I will look at the governments new scheme and look at them again. He said 15 people in the town had already signed up, which is true, doesn’t say much for the local financial literacy, moreover it means this thing will be huge.
If I decide to go solar I will wait for things to shake out and settle and wait till the various companies have developed reputations, also it means a huge surge in production so things will get cheaper toward the end.
I get lots of door knockers saying similar things about solar.
At the Maritme school they had a unit jet ski you could sign out, purchased with regimental funds you just had to pay for petrol. It was a bit of fun but after doing it a few times it was a bit meh for me. Others loved it.
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:
Sounds like another debarcle on its way. Just had an Indian spruiking a government $2225 grant to get me to sign up for solar. I told him I wasn’t sure it was legislated yet but he assured me it was. (might be true). Then he asked how much I paid, I told him $17 a fortnight which seemed to astonish him, (and he quickly forgot about because he later said), “you are needing no deposit and no credit check and for this house only 95 dollars a month and you are already paying 90 isn’t it and then you get no more bills”.I told him I had crunched the numbers previously and solar didn’t work for me, but I will look at the governments new scheme and look at them again. He said 15 people in the town had already signed up, which is true, doesn’t say much for the local financial literacy, moreover it means this thing will be huge.
If I decide to go solar I will wait for things to shake out and settle and wait till the various companies have developed reputations, also it means a huge surge in production so things will get cheaper toward the end.
I get lots of door knockers saying similar things about solar.
Yeah, me too, but this time the government grant, if it happens, is going to rev things up. If this bloke has signed on 15 (which I take with a pinch of salt) warns of a budget blowout and scammers ahoy. Not sure if the implications of a huge demand drop in base supply has been factored in. Gonna get interesting I reckon.
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:
Sounds like another debarcle on its way. Just had an Indian spruiking a government $2225 grant to get me to sign up for solar. I told him I wasn’t sure it was legislated yet but he assured me it was. (might be true). Then he asked how much I paid, I told him $17 a fortnight which seemed to astonish him, (and he quickly forgot about because he later said), “you are needing no deposit and no credit check and for this house only 95 dollars a month and you are already paying 90 isn’t it and then you get no more bills”.I told him I had crunched the numbers previously and solar didn’t work for me, but I will look at the governments new scheme and look at them again. He said 15 people in the town had already signed up, which is true, doesn’t say much for the local financial literacy, moreover it means this thing will be huge.
If I decide to go solar I will wait for things to shake out and settle and wait till the various companies have developed reputations, also it means a huge surge in production so things will get cheaper toward the end.
I get lots of door knockers saying similar things about solar.
I got in early with solar, I think I barely paid anything after rebates and get the higher rate for power generated.
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:
Sounds like another debarcle on its way. Just had an Indian spruiking a government $2225 grant to get me to sign up for solar. I told him I wasn’t sure it was legislated yet but he assured me it was. (might be true). Then he asked how much I paid, I told him $17 a fortnight which seemed to astonish him, (and he quickly forgot about because he later said), “you are needing no deposit and no credit check and for this house only 95 dollars a month and you are already paying 90 isn’t it and then you get no more bills”.I told him I had crunched the numbers previously and solar didn’t work for me, but I will look at the governments new scheme and look at them again. He said 15 people in the town had already signed up, which is true, doesn’t say much for the local financial literacy, moreover it means this thing will be huge.
If I decide to go solar I will wait for things to shake out and settle and wait till the various companies have developed reputations, also it means a huge surge in production so things will get cheaper toward the end.
I get lots of door knockers saying similar things about solar.
Yeah, me too, but this time the government grant, if it happens, is going to rev things up. If this bloke has signed on 15 (which I take with a pinch of salt) warns of a budget blowout and scammers ahoy. Not sure if the implications of a huge demand drop in base supply has been factored in. Gonna get interesting I reckon.
I think the big change is when the battery technology for home use gets sorted out. My sister and BiL bought solar panels about a year ago. The company they went with advised not to buy and batteries yet but to wait two or three years and see how the market and technology settles down. So for now their solar energy goes into the grid during the day and they use the grid at night.
When they, and thousands of other like them, install batteries and store their surplus during the day to use at night is when I think we’ll see the game-changing stuff in the grid. Maybe power companies will start installing large suburb sized storage themselves.
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:I get lots of door knockers saying similar things about solar.
Yeah, me too, but this time the government grant, if it happens, is going to rev things up. If this bloke has signed on 15 (which I take with a pinch of salt) warns of a budget blowout and scammers ahoy. Not sure if the implications of a huge demand drop in base supply has been factored in. Gonna get interesting I reckon.
I think the big change is when the battery technology for home use gets sorted out. My sister and BiL bought solar panels about a year ago. The company they went with advised not to buy and batteries yet but to wait two or three years and see how the market and technology settles down. So for now their solar energy goes into the grid during the day and they use the grid at night.
When they, and thousands of other like them, install batteries and store their surplus during the day to use at night is when I think we’ll see the game-changing stuff in the grid. Maybe power companies will start installing large suburb sized storage themselves.
Yeah, that’s why the numbers don’t work for me. My electricity use is low, during the day it is only a fridge, radio, and standby on TVs. TV doesn’t start till about three. Heating (plus wood or oil heater, but not used in summer) cooking and hot water is gas. iPad gets charged of an evening and night.
My beautiful death
I spent 15 years sanding and grinding mussel shells to create my sculptures. Then I was diagnosed with heavy-metal poisoning
https://torontolife.com/city/life/my-beautiful-death/?fbclid=IwAR2Kgu_wozfC1ish4hVbd3vRFSGNpRNWv2IMFT9C_NXUQRl5niZLLEk79Ic
For me, a mature batteries technology would be the changer, I could go completely off grid for electricity. Then again, depends on trends on gas prices, I do about five bottles a year but three of those would be in winter.
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:Yeah, me too, but this time the government grant, if it happens, is going to rev things up. If this bloke has signed on 15 (which I take with a pinch of salt) warns of a budget blowout and scammers ahoy. Not sure if the implications of a huge demand drop in base supply has been factored in. Gonna get interesting I reckon.
I think the big change is when the battery technology for home use gets sorted out. My sister and BiL bought solar panels about a year ago. The company they went with advised not to buy and batteries yet but to wait two or three years and see how the market and technology settles down. So for now their solar energy goes into the grid during the day and they use the grid at night.
When they, and thousands of other like them, install batteries and store their surplus during the day to use at night is when I think we’ll see the game-changing stuff in the grid. Maybe power companies will start installing large suburb sized storage themselves.
Yeah, that’s why the numbers don’t work for me. My electricity use is low, during the day it is only a fridge, radio, and standby on TVs. TV doesn’t start till about three. Heating (plus wood or oil heater, but not used in summer) cooking and hot water is gas. iPad gets charged of an evening and night.
I’m pretty similar, maybe add my aircon during the peak of summer.
AwesomeO said:
For me, a mature batteries technology would be the changer, I could go completely off grid for electricity. Then again, depends on trends on gas prices, I do about five bottles a year but three of those would be in winter.
And also last year was my first year of the fan wood heater, but midway, going to use it more next winter so will see how that effects gas use.
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:
Sounds like another debarcle on its way. Just had an Indian spruiking a government $2225 grant to get me to sign up for solar. I told him I wasn’t sure it was legislated yet but he assured me it was. (might be true). Then he asked how much I paid, I told him $17 a fortnight which seemed to astonish him, (and he quickly forgot about because he later said), “you are needing no deposit and no credit check and for this house only 95 dollars a month and you are already paying 90 isn’t it and then you get no more bills”.I told him I had crunched the numbers previously and solar didn’t work for me, but I will look at the governments new scheme and look at them again. He said 15 people in the town had already signed up, which is true, doesn’t say much for the local financial literacy, moreover it means this thing will be huge.
If I decide to go solar I will wait for things to shake out and settle and wait till the various companies have developed reputations, also it means a huge surge in production so things will get cheaper toward the end.
I get lots of door knockers saying similar things about solar.
Yeah, me too, but this time the government grant, if it happens, is going to rev things up. If this bloke has signed on 15 (which I take with a pinch of salt) warns of a budget blowout and scammers ahoy. Not sure if the implications of a huge demand drop in base supply has been factored in. Gonna get interesting I reckon.
With most scams, they just get forgotten about, insulation, VET rorts, Aged Care etc etc…
AwesomeO said:
At the Maritme school they had a unit jet ski you could sign out, purchased with regimental funds you just had to pay for petrol. It was a bit of fun but after doing it a few times it was a bit meh for me. Others loved it.
I’ve had a go on a jet-ski, but, like you, the novelty quickly wore off for me. Unless i has a specific purpose for one, i’d not bother with it. Too noisy, driving-intense, capability-lacking to be enjoyable ‘boating’. Zero stowage or refrigeration possible for any worthwhile quantity of beverages.
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:I get lots of door knockers saying similar things about solar.
Yeah, me too, but this time the government grant, if it happens, is going to rev things up. If this bloke has signed on 15 (which I take with a pinch of salt) warns of a budget blowout and scammers ahoy. Not sure if the implications of a huge demand drop in base supply has been factored in. Gonna get interesting I reckon.
I think the big change is when the battery technology for home use gets sorted out. My sister and BiL bought solar panels about a year ago. The company they went with advised not to buy and batteries yet but to wait two or three years and see how the market and technology settles down. So for now their solar energy goes into the grid during the day and they use the grid at night.
When they, and thousands of other like them, install batteries and store their surplus during the day to use at night is when I think we’ll see the game-changing stuff in the grid. Maybe power companies will start installing large suburb sized storage themselves.
Yea, we’ll be just like remote rural villages of Fiji, which is kind of amusing.
I am waiting for battery price to drop to a reasonable level, then will be balls n all in, the government of any ilk couldn’t come up with a decent energy plan if they were beaten around the face with one.
AwesomeO said:
For me, a mature batteries technology would be the changer, I could go completely off grid for electricity. Then again, depends on trends on gas prices, I do about five bottles a year but three of those would be in winter.
Aus should be paying fuck all for gas, instead we allow a cartel to sell it at a loss overseas. At least the LNP numptys started to reserve some of it for domestic use.
poikilotherm said:
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:I get lots of door knockers saying similar things about solar.
Yeah, me too, but this time the government grant, if it happens, is going to rev things up. If this bloke has signed on 15 (which I take with a pinch of salt) warns of a budget blowout and scammers ahoy. Not sure if the implications of a huge demand drop in base supply has been factored in. Gonna get interesting I reckon.
With most scams, they just get forgotten about, insulation, VET rorts, Aged Care etc etc…
It may not be a scam, the government thing may be real, but it’s not the same process when you look for a retailer and because you are spending your own money, screw them down for price and quality. Government money, a bloke comes around, tells you it is basically free and you say sign me up. No diligence.
poikilotherm said:
Yea, we’ll be just like remote rural villages of Fiji, which is kind of amusing.
What, full of drunken Aussies behaving badly?
party_pants said:
poikilotherm said:Yea, we’ll be just like remote rural villages of Fiji, which is kind of amusing.
What, full of drunken Aussies behaving badly?
You only find Aussies on the Coral Coast of Fiji, elsewhere they are non-existent.
To my mind a better scheme, and they should have done it with the insulation is something like the govt will match you dollar for dollar, after the first say 500 and to the limit of an ordinary house so shopping malls etc don’t get in on it.
AwesomeO said:
It may not be a scam, the government thing may be real, but it’s not the same process when you look for a retailer and because you are spending your own money, screw them down for price and quality. Government money, a bloke comes around, tells you it is basically free and you say sign me up. No diligence.
I say, “sounds good.Come back next week, i’ll have my lawyer draw up an agreement for that fixed and flat price, to be paid on completion and satisfactory inspection of the installation’.
AwesomeO said:
To my mind a better scheme, and they should have done it with the insulation is something like the govt will match you dollar for dollar, after the first say 500 and to the limit of an ordinary house so shopping malls etc don’t get in on it.
Would have been good if it included some local manufacturing content also. It would take longer to gear up of course, but it might be a longer term economic benefit.
captain_spalding said:
AwesomeO said:
At the Maritme school they had a unit jet ski you could sign out, purchased with regimental funds you just had to pay for petrol. It was a bit of fun but after doing it a few times it was a bit meh for me. Others loved it.
I’ve had a go on a jet-ski, but, like you, the novelty quickly wore off for me. Unless i has a specific purpose for one, i’d not bother with it. Too noisy, driving-intense, capability-lacking to be enjoyable ‘boating’. Zero stowage or refrigeration possible for any worthwhile quantity of beverages.
My customers just tow a floating esky which I also rent out
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:
To my mind a better scheme, and they should have done it with the insulation is something like the govt will match you dollar for dollar, after the first say 500 and to the limit of an ordinary house so shopping malls etc don’t get in on it.
Would have been good if it included some local manufacturing content also. It would take longer to gear up of course, but it might be a longer term economic benefit.
Preference for local manufacturing is in all federal government contracts and goes into the cost benefit analysis matrix at the scoping stage.
How’s that for some jargon.
Elvis_Rieu said:
captain_spalding said:
AwesomeO said:
At the Maritme school they had a unit jet ski you could sign out, purchased with regimental funds you just had to pay for petrol. It was a bit of fun but after doing it a few times it was a bit meh for me. Others loved it.
I’ve had a go on a jet-ski, but, like you, the novelty quickly wore off for me. Unless i has a specific purpose for one, i’d not bother with it. Too noisy, driving-intense, capability-lacking to be enjoyable ‘boating’. Zero stowage or refrigeration possible for any worthwhile quantity of beverages.
My customers just tow a floating esky which I also rent out
the old truck inner tube with a 25L bucket jammed in the middle. A favourite for waders after river prawns and crabs.
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:
To my mind a better scheme, and they should have done it with the insulation is something like the govt will match you dollar for dollar, after the first say 500 and to the limit of an ordinary house so shopping malls etc don’t get in on it.
Would have been good if it included some local manufacturing content also. It would take longer to gear up of course, but it might be a longer term economic benefit.
Preference for local manufacturing is in all federal government contracts and goes into the cost benefit analysis matrix at the scoping stage.
How’s that for some jargon.
Leaves you open to allow some tasty pork barrelling ala submarine contracts.
Don’t need no solar in Fiji if I need more power I just whip the local house slaves some more, they are always tethered walking that endless circle
My water powered generator gives me all the powa I need so powerful I can warp space time with it
You must be very bored with life to get off impersonating BC. RUOK?

According to scientists this is what the energy mix will look like up to 2040.
Witty Rejoinder said:
You must be very bored with life to get off impersonating BC. RUOK?
Young man I am BC, you see how you change after a jet ski related head injury, wonder I can walk and talk let alone type
Elvis_Rieu said:
captain_spalding said:
AwesomeO said:
At the Maritme school they had a unit jet ski you could sign out, purchased with regimental funds you just had to pay for petrol. It was a bit of fun but after doing it a few times it was a bit meh for me. Others loved it.
I’ve had a go on a jet-ski, but, like you, the novelty quickly wore off for me. Unless i has a specific purpose for one, i’d not bother with it. Too noisy, driving-intense, capability-lacking to be enjoyable ‘boating’. Zero stowage or refrigeration possible for any worthwhile quantity of beverages.
My customers just tow a floating esky which I also rent out
Genius. I withdraw my objection.
Peak Warming Man said:
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According to scientists this is what the energy mix will look like up to 2040.
But they haven’t allowed for fusion.
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
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According to scientists this is what the energy mix will look like up to 2040.
But they haven’t allowed for fusion.
Isn’t that due to be viable in 50 years time so that would in the year 2067
Peak Warming Man said:
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According to scientists this is what the energy mix will look like up to 2040.
Real scientists wouldn’t use BTUs as a unit of energy :)
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
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According to scientists this is what the energy mix will look like up to 2040.
But they haven’t allowed for fusion.
That’d be nuclear wouldn’t it?
poikilotherm said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
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According to scientists this is what the energy mix will look like up to 2040.
But they haven’t allowed for fusion.
That’d be nuclear wouldn’t it?
No, it’s nu-cu-ler.
Peak Warming Man said:
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According to scientists this is what the energy mix will look like up to 2040.
Why should I believe that?
We used to get told it’ll have all run out by 1978.
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:
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According to scientists this is what the energy mix will look like up to 2040.
Real scientists wouldn’t use BTUs as a unit of energy :)
What do you suggest? SHFs? Sydney Harbour Fulls?
Woodie said:
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:
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According to scientists this is what the energy mix will look like up to 2040.
Real scientists wouldn’t use BTUs as a unit of energy :)
What do you suggest? SHFs? Sydney Harbour Fulls?
Curve Fireplace Units may be more appropriate.
Woodie said:
What do you suggest? SHFs? Sydney Harbour Fulls?
SLs: ShitLoads.
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:
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According to scientists this is what the energy mix will look like up to 2040.
Why should I believe that?
We used to get told it’ll have all run out by 1978.
Economists eh, couldn’t predict their own lunch if they packed it themselves.
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
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According to scientists this is what the energy mix will look like up to 2040.
But they haven’t allowed for fusion.
It hasn’t allowed for any technological progress.
There’s a few low pressure troughs around.
That wastrel Owen was a disappointment.

Would it be ironing if they could get fusion to work but the power stations require so much maintenance and exotic materials the power is unaffordable.
AwesomeO said:
Would it be ironing if they could get fusion to work but the power stations require so much maintenance and exotic materials the power is unaffordable.
The small experimental ones in the US and UK have put out encouraging press releases.
I think they do that every year just before a new round of funding is due probably.
They use the Poofteenth as a measure of net energy produced.
Peak Warming Man said:
AwesomeO said:
Would it be ironing if they could get fusion to work but the power stations require so much maintenance and exotic materials the power is unaffordable.
The small experimental ones in the US and UK have put out encouraging press releases.
I think they do that every year just before a new round of funding is due probably.
They use the Poofteenth as a measure of net energy produced.
Think they’re up to milli-poofteeth now aren’t they?
Peak Warming Man said:
AwesomeO said:
Would it be ironing if they could get fusion to work but the power stations require so much maintenance and exotic materials the power is unaffordable.
The small experimental ones in the US and UK have put out encouraging press releases.
I think they do that every year just before a new round of funding is due probably.
They use the Poofteenth as a measure of net energy produced.
Snouts are always making sure the troughs are full.
Peak Warming Man said:
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According to scientists this is what the energy mix will look like up to 2040.
https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=32912
poikilotherm said:
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:
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According to scientists this is what the energy mix will look like up to 2040.
Why should I believe that?
We used to get told it’ll have all run out by 1978.
Economists eh, couldn’t predict their own lunch if they packed it themselves.
They tell me if you get four economists in a room and ask them a question, you’ll get eight answers.
Also, that Economists never predict, only explain.
party_pants said:
Cymek said:
Divine Angel said:We do that already.
We would take our bottles to the cash-for-containers places but none are open around here yet despite what the website says.
Is your recycling weekly or fortnightly, our is fortnightly when it should be weekly and the rubbish perhaps fortnightly as its rarely full (the smell perhaps is a factor for weekly collection)
I was wondering yesterday at work as we have a recycling bin if its actually useful, does it get recycled as claimed or is it dumped in landfill.
Was also thinking what sort of toxins are released when coloured cardboard is recycled.
Perhaps all cardboard for packaging should be plain, it wouldn’t look fancy and attract attention for the product sold but it might be more environmentally friendly.
No doubt some of it ends up in landfill, but I still think we should do it anyway to sort out some of the high value items like aluminium. The manufacture of aluminium is very energy intensive using lots of electricity (and therefore carbon emissions) to make, but there is a saving of 95% energy costs in recycling. So I think it is definitely worthwhile.
Other stuff I am not so sure about, I have heard that glass is more economical to make brand new containers rather than recycle becasue of the transport costs associated with its weight.
In 1970, Schweppes decided that the average glass bottle did 33 round trips and that the single use bottle would be more economical.
Peak Warming Man said:
There’s a few low pressure troughs around.
That wastrel Owen was a disappointment.
A ‘Heat Health’ alert has been issued for the Central and Mallee districts of Vic tomorrow.
Peak Warming Man said:
AwesomeO said:
Would it be ironing if they could get fusion to work but the power stations require so much maintenance and exotic materials the power is unaffordable.
The small experimental ones in the US and UK have put out encouraging press releases.
I think they do that every year just before a new round of funding is due probably.
They use the Poofteenth as a measure of net energy produced.
I did some consulting work for ITER and the NIF they were very impressed with my cold tap water fusion engine
Rule 303 said:
poikilotherm said:
Woodie said:Why should I believe that?
We used to get told it’ll have all run out by 1978.
Economists eh, couldn’t predict their own lunch if they packed it themselves.
Also, that Economists never predict, only explain.
lulz, they explain nothing, they merely try to describe what they think they saw.
Defensive cat
https://i.imgur.com/ELRxio2.mp4
Peak Warming Man said:
There’s a few low pressure troughs around.
That wastrel Owen was a disappointment.
Imagine a cyclone season with no cyclones that come onto land in Australia?

Before his death, George HW Bush filed a 211 page document outlining his funeral plans.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_and_state_funeral_of_George_H._W._Bush
My funeral instructions include “cremate me, mix me with glitter, and sing Fall Out Boy’s Thnks fr th mmrs”.
Divine Angel said:
Before his death, George HW Bush filed a 211 page document outlining his funeral plans.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_and_state_funeral_of_George_H._W._Bush
My funeral instructions include “cremate me, mix me with glitter, and sing Fall Out Boy’s Thnks fr th mmrs”.
I wonder how many of them said “this page has been intentionally left blank”.
There’s no way mine would run to 211 pages unless I actually wrote the speeches I wanted read out.
party_pants said:
My aunt requested a stupidly long sermon at her graveside service. It was a swelteringly hot day. When I get up there I’m gonna give her a piece of my mind over that!
Divine Angel said:
Before his death, George HW Bush filed a 211 page document outlining his funeral plans.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_and_state_funeral_of_George_H._W._Bush
My funeral instructions include “cremate me, mix me with glitter, and sing Fall Out Boy’s Thnks fr th mmrs”.
I wonder how many of them said “this page has been intentionally left blank”.
There’s no way mine would run to 211 pages unless I actually wrote the speeches I wanted read out.
Cymek said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Cymek said:Was also thinking what sort of toxins are released when coloured cardboard is recycled.
Perhaps all cardboard for packaging should be plain, it wouldn’t look fancy and attract attention for the product sold but it might be more environmentally friendly.
most printing inks these days are safe. OH&S in the printing industry has seen to that.
That’s good
Very good. All paper and cardboard here ends up in the garden – either as compost or as garden bed liners. I also get newspapers and cardboard from the newsagent.
Like, I get there’s a lot of pomp and ceremony dealing with a presidential funeral. The wiki article only mentions he didn’t want Hail to the Chief played. Wtf else can you fill 211 pages with? I’ve read entire novels with fewer pages.
You have to remember who his children are. Probably only a few words per page, in large font, and pictures. Lots and lots of pictures…
Nightmare:
Vicious, blood-spitting alpaca attack had WA women fearing for their lives before being saved by police
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-05/alpaca-attack-had-wa-women-fearing-for-their-lives/10581494
furious said:
- Like, I get there’s a lot of pomp and ceremony dealing with a presidential funeral. The wiki article only mentions he didn’t want Hail to the Chief played. Wtf else can you fill 211 pages with? I’ve read entire novels with fewer pages.
You have to remember who his children are. Probably only a few words per page, in large font, and pictures. Lots and lots of pictures…
I’m kinda disappointed Trump won’t be giving a eulogy. I want to see how he turns the ceremony into a diatribe all about him.
Divine Angel said:
Like, I get there’s a lot of pomp and ceremony dealing with a presidential funeral. The wiki article only mentions he didn’t want Hail to the Chief played. Wtf else can you fill 211 pages with? I’ve read entire novels with fewer pages.
Clearly he thought someone wanted to read it.
When I worked with ACPERS-A at Russell there was a dead generals file for the funeral requests of generals.
Divine Angel said:
furious said:
- Like, I get there’s a lot of pomp and ceremony dealing with a presidential funeral. The wiki article only mentions he didn’t want Hail to the Chief played. Wtf else can you fill 211 pages with? I’ve read entire novels with fewer pages.
You have to remember who his children are. Probably only a few words per page, in large font, and pictures. Lots and lots of pictures…
I’m kinda disappointed Trump won’t be giving a eulogy. I want to see how he turns the ceremony into a diatribe all about him.
He’ll have glossy aerial photos of the bigger crowds that attended his funeral than GWHB’s.
AwesomeO said:
When I worked with ACPERS-A at Russell there was a dead generals file for the funeral requests of generals.
Dead and gone file?
sibeen said:
Today is a very good day.Just got a text message saying that my 17 year old niece’s cancer is in remission.
:)
AwesomeO said:
When I worked with ACPERS-A at Russell there was a dead generals file for the funeral requests of generals.
Ooh that sounds interesting.
I think funerals are fascinating.
kii said:
*sniffs armpits**opens door*
*coughs on the door handles*
*exits forum*
Well, I’ll piss off.
Um, why?
The Last Battle Of The Vikings
Wednesday 5th December at 4:25 pm (65 minutes)
Last Battle Of The Vikings, The: In October of 1263, King Hakon Hakonson stepped ashore at Largs to command his 900 Norwegian warrors against a force of 500 mounted Scottish knights. The calamitous events to follow at the Battle of Largs changed the future course and identity of a fledgling Scottish nation forever. Professor Jon Henderson rediscovers the incredible story of the last days of the Vikings, painting a vivid picture of Scotland and the brutal men who came over the North Sea in longships.
I can’t find any details on whether Bush’s funeral will be televised in Australia.
Divine Angel said:
AwesomeO said:
When I worked with ACPERS-A at Russell there was a dead generals file for the funeral requests of generals.
Ooh that sounds interesting.
I think funerals are fascinating.
The Xfiles were more interesting, that was binders full of nutter letters. If it has a return address it had to be replied to, usual protocol was, depending on content, open, attach the envelope to the letter and pass to the local ASIS for a security assessment.
Divine Angel said:
I can’t find any details on whether Bush’s funeral will be televised in Australia.
hopefully not.
That kind of thing usually ends up on “press red for more” foxtel news channels…
captain_spalding said:
AwesomeO said:
At the Maritme school they had a unit jet ski you could sign out, purchased with regimental funds you just had to pay for petrol. It was a bit of fun but after doing it a few times it was a bit meh for me. Others loved it.
I’ve had a go on a jet-ski, but, like you, the novelty quickly wore off for me. Unless i has a specific purpose for one, i’d not bother with it. Too noisy, driving-intense, capability-lacking to be enjoyable ‘boating’. Zero stowage or refrigeration possible for any worthwhile quantity of beverages.
I’ve been told they are rather like riding a motocross bike. Is that true?
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Today is a very good day.Just got a text message saying that my 17 year old niece’s cancer is in remission.
:)
:)
Rule 303 said:
poikilotherm said:
Woodie said:Why should I believe that?
We used to get told it’ll have all run out by 1978.
Economists eh, couldn’t predict their own lunch if they packed it themselves.
They tell me if you get four economists in a room and ask them a question, you’ll get eight answers.
Also, that Economists never predict, only explain.
I think you may be talking about geologists there.
AwesomeO said:
The Last Battle Of The VikingsWednesday 5th December at 4:25 pm (65 minutes)
Last Battle Of The Vikings, The: In October of 1263, King Hakon Hakonson stepped ashore at Largs to command his 900 Norwegian warrors against a force of 500 mounted Scottish knights. The calamitous events to follow at the Battle of Largs changed the future course and identity of a fledgling Scottish nation forever. Professor Jon Henderson rediscovers the incredible story of the last days of the Vikings, painting a vivid picture of Scotland and the brutal men who came over the North Sea in longships.
The Scots and The Vikings seem to have a long history of brawling and bonking each other.
Divine Angel said:
I can’t find any details on whether Bush’s funeral will be televised in Australia.
The Grey Bush Possie will be watching I expect
Divine Angel said:
furious said:
- Like, I get there’s a lot of pomp and ceremony dealing with a presidential funeral. The wiki article only mentions he didn’t want Hail to the Chief played. Wtf else can you fill 211 pages with? I’ve read entire novels with fewer pages.
You have to remember who his children are. Probably only a few words per page, in large font, and pictures. Lots and lots of pictures…
I’m kinda disappointed Trump won’t be giving a eulogy. I want to see how he turns the ceremony into a diatribe all about him.
Me too.
poikilotherm said:
AwesomeO said:
The Last Battle Of The VikingsWednesday 5th December at 4:25 pm (65 minutes)
Last Battle Of The Vikings, The: In October of 1263, King Hakon Hakonson stepped ashore at Largs to command his 900 Norwegian warrors against a force of 500 mounted Scottish knights. The calamitous events to follow at the Battle of Largs changed the future course and identity of a fledgling Scottish nation forever. Professor Jon Henderson rediscovers the incredible story of the last days of the Vikings, painting a vivid picture of Scotland and the brutal men who came over the North Sea in longships.
The Scots and The Vikings seem to have a long history of brawling and bonking each other.
Yeah, I am Irish all the way back but Dad has the Viking contracture, so maybe someone was raped in the past, or from the Scottish cos our family was originally Scots contracted to an Irish King as troops but stopped and settled.
poikilotherm said:
AwesomeO said:
The Last Battle Of The VikingsWednesday 5th December at 4:25 pm (65 minutes)
Last Battle Of The Vikings, The: In October of 1263, King Hakon Hakonson stepped ashore at Largs to command his 900 Norwegian warrors against a force of 500 mounted Scottish knights. The calamitous events to follow at the Battle of Largs changed the future course and identity of a fledgling Scottish nation forever. Professor Jon Henderson rediscovers the incredible story of the last days of the Vikings, painting a vivid picture of Scotland and the brutal men who came over the North Sea in longships.
The Scots and The Vikings seem to have a long history of brawling and bonking each other.
there’s not much else to do in the cold north.
party_pants said:
poikilotherm said:
AwesomeO said:
The Last Battle Of The VikingsWednesday 5th December at 4:25 pm (65 minutes)
Last Battle Of The Vikings, The: In October of 1263, King Hakon Hakonson stepped ashore at Largs to command his 900 Norwegian warrors against a force of 500 mounted Scottish knights. The calamitous events to follow at the Battle of Largs changed the future course and identity of a fledgling Scottish nation forever. Professor Jon Henderson rediscovers the incredible story of the last days of the Vikings, painting a vivid picture of Scotland and the brutal men who came over the North Sea in longships.
The Scots and The Vikings seem to have a long history of brawling and bonking each other.
there’s not much else to do in the cold north.
The Scots in parts seem to have had the tradition of blood feuds which many peoples share. Seems from reading t po be more common among herding people’s. I guess with kiddies looking after the herds and women gathering the wood, water and cooking the men had nothing else to do than look pretty (literally) and raid other cattle owners.
party_pants said:
poikilotherm said:
AwesomeO said:
The Last Battle Of The VikingsWednesday 5th December at 4:25 pm (65 minutes)
Last Battle Of The Vikings, The: In October of 1263, King Hakon Hakonson stepped ashore at Largs to command his 900 Norwegian warrors against a force of 500 mounted Scottish knights. The calamitous events to follow at the Battle of Largs changed the future course and identity of a fledgling Scottish nation forever. Professor Jon Henderson rediscovers the incredible story of the last days of the Vikings, painting a vivid picture of Scotland and the brutal men who came over the North Sea in longships.
The Scots and The Vikings seem to have a long history of brawling and bonking each other.
there’s not much else to do in the cold north.
They didn’t like poking the Anglians at all, just liked to kill ‘em.
party_pants said:
poikilotherm said:
AwesomeO said:
The Last Battle Of The VikingsWednesday 5th December at 4:25 pm (65 minutes)
Last Battle Of The Vikings, The: In October of 1263, King Hakon Hakonson stepped ashore at Largs to command his 900 Norwegian warrors against a force of 500 mounted Scottish knights. The calamitous events to follow at the Battle of Largs changed the future course and identity of a fledgling Scottish nation forever. Professor Jon Henderson rediscovers the incredible story of the last days of the Vikings, painting a vivid picture of Scotland and the brutal men who came over the North Sea in longships.
The Scots and The Vikings seem to have a long history of brawling and bonking each other.
there’s not much else to do in the cold north.
Finding food’d be a good thing to do.
party_pants said:
poikilotherm said:
AwesomeO said:
The Last Battle Of The VikingsWednesday 5th December at 4:25 pm (65 minutes)
Last Battle Of The Vikings, The: In October of 1263, King Hakon Hakonson stepped ashore at Largs to command his 900 Norwegian warrors against a force of 500 mounted Scottish knights. The calamitous events to follow at the Battle of Largs changed the future course and identity of a fledgling Scottish nation forever. Professor Jon Henderson rediscovers the incredible story of the last days of the Vikings, painting a vivid picture of Scotland and the brutal men who came over the North Sea in longships.
The Scots and The Vikings seem to have a long history of brawling and bonking each other.
there’s not much else to do in the cold north.
Except for stopping The White Walkers
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:
poikilotherm said:The Scots and The Vikings seem to have a long history of brawling and bonking each other.
there’s not much else to do in the cold north.
The Scots in parts seem to have had the tradition of blood feuds which many peoples share. Seems from reading t po be more common among herding people’s. I guess with kiddies looking after the herds and women gathering the wood, water and cooking the men had nothing else to do than look pretty (literally) and raid other cattle owners.
Yea, that tended to happen…
“Yet across the world their name is forever associated with the Glencoe Massacre, when 38 unarmed MacDonalds were killed by two detachments of the Earl of Argyll’s Regiment of Foot led by Robert Campbell of Glen Lyon. Another forty women and children died of exposure after their homes were burned.
The truly horrific aspect of the MacDonald slaughter by their Campbell guests is that a king and his government backed the genocide of their own people. This single fact has guaranteed its infamy.”
fucken Campbells ;)
poikilotherm said:
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:there’s not much else to do in the cold north.
The Scots in parts seem to have had the tradition of blood feuds which many peoples share. Seems from reading t po be more common among herding people’s. I guess with kiddies looking after the herds and women gathering the wood, water and cooking the men had nothing else to do than look pretty (literally) and raid other cattle owners.
Yea, that tended to happen…
“Yet across the world their name is forever associated with the Glencoe Massacre, when 38 unarmed MacDonalds were killed by two detachments of the Earl of Argyll’s Regiment of Foot led by Robert Campbell of Glen Lyon. Another forty women and children died of exposure after their homes were burned.
The truly horrific aspect of the MacDonald slaughter by their Campbell guests is that a king and his government backed the genocide of their own people. This single fact has guaranteed its infamy.”
fucken Campbells ;)
famous for their soups though.
poikilotherm said:
party_pants said:
poikilotherm said:The Scots and The Vikings seem to have a long history of brawling and bonking each other.
there’s not much else to do in the cold north.
They didn’t like poking the Anglians at all, just liked to kill ‘em.
Anglians hey? Are they related to the Saxxos?
poikilotherm said:
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:there’s not much else to do in the cold north.
The Scots in parts seem to have had the tradition of blood feuds which many peoples share. Seems from reading t po be more common among herding people’s. I guess with kiddies looking after the herds and women gathering the wood, water and cooking the men had nothing else to do than look pretty (literally) and raid other cattle owners.
Yea, that tended to happen…
“Yet across the world their name is forever associated with the Glencoe Massacre, when 38 unarmed MacDonalds were killed by two detachments of the Earl of Argyll’s Regiment of Foot led by Robert Campbell of Glen Lyon. Another forty women and children died of exposure after their homes were burned.
The truly horrific aspect of the MacDonald slaughter by their Campbell guests is that a king and his government backed the genocide of their own people. This single fact has guaranteed its infamy.”
fucken Campbells ;)
And I think one of them did a change of allegiance at the battle of Culloden.
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:
party_pants said:there’s not much else to do in the cold north.
They didn’t like poking the Anglians at all, just liked to kill ‘em.
Anglians hey? Are they related to the Saxxos?
Salt of the earth, the Saxas.
poikilotherm said:
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:there’s not much else to do in the cold north.
The Scots in parts seem to have had the tradition of blood feuds which many peoples share. Seems from reading t po be more common among herding people’s. I guess with kiddies looking after the herds and women gathering the wood, water and cooking the men had nothing else to do than look pretty (literally) and raid other cattle owners.
Yea, that tended to happen…
“Yet across the world their name is forever associated with the Glencoe Massacre, when 38 unarmed MacDonalds were killed by two detachments of the Earl of Argyll’s Regiment of Foot led by Robert Campbell of Glen Lyon. Another forty women and children died of exposure after their homes were burned.
The truly horrific aspect of the MacDonald slaughter by their Campbell guests is that a king and his government backed the genocide of their own people. This single fact has guaranteed its infamy.”
fucken Campbells ;)
Aye. I’m MacDonald from my maternal Grandmother.
captain_spalding said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:They didn’t like poking the Anglians at all, just liked to kill ‘em.
Anglians hey? Are they related to the Saxxos?
Salt of the earth, the Saxas.
Iodised?
sibeen said:
poikilotherm said:
AwesomeO said:The Scots in parts seem to have had the tradition of blood feuds which many peoples share. Seems from reading t po be more common among herding people’s. I guess with kiddies looking after the herds and women gathering the wood, water and cooking the men had nothing else to do than look pretty (literally) and raid other cattle owners.
Yea, that tended to happen…
“Yet across the world their name is forever associated with the Glencoe Massacre, when 38 unarmed MacDonalds were killed by two detachments of the Earl of Argyll’s Regiment of Foot led by Robert Campbell of Glen Lyon. Another forty women and children died of exposure after their homes were burned.
The truly horrific aspect of the MacDonald slaughter by their Campbell guests is that a king and his government backed the genocide of their own people. This single fact has guaranteed its infamy.”
fucken Campbells ;)
Aye. I’m MacDonald from my maternal Grandmother.
Aye, I’m a McDonald from my great grandfather Ronald
AwesomeO said:
poikilotherm said:
AwesomeO said:The Scots in parts seem to have had the tradition of blood feuds which many peoples share. Seems from reading t po be more common among herding people’s. I guess with kiddies looking after the herds and women gathering the wood, water and cooking the men had nothing else to do than look pretty (literally) and raid other cattle owners.
Yea, that tended to happen…
“Yet across the world their name is forever associated with the Glencoe Massacre, when 38 unarmed MacDonalds were killed by two detachments of the Earl of Argyll’s Regiment of Foot led by Robert Campbell of Glen Lyon. Another forty women and children died of exposure after their homes were burned.
The truly horrific aspect of the MacDonald slaughter by their Campbell guests is that a king and his government backed the genocide of their own people. This single fact has guaranteed its infamy.”
fucken Campbells ;)
And I think one of them did a change of allegiance at the battle of Culloden.
Yea father and son had a spat as well.
poikilotherm said:
Yea father and son had a spat as well.
Grandfather possibly had a pair of spats at some time, then.
When’s Junior Sprog due home Sibeen?
captain_spalding said:
poikilotherm said:Yea father and son had a spat as well.
Grandfather possibly had a pair of spats at some time, then.
Two. One for his ankles and one for his car.
Hey, roughy, my mum has given me several pocket watches that my late father had tucked away. Quite possibly some of them were finds made by my grandfather in furniture he bought as part of his removals business. Some Walthams from the1880s and 1900s, and a Yabsley from the 1890s among them.
captain_spalding said:
Hey, roughy, my mum has given me several pocket watches that my late father had tucked away. Quite possibly some of them were finds made by my grandfather in furniture he bought as part of his removals business. Some Walthams from the1880s and 1900s, and a Yabsley from the 1890s among them.
Kewl. Do you want valuations on them?
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
Hey, roughy, my mum has given me several pocket watches that my late father had tucked away. Quite possibly some of them were finds made by my grandfather in furniture he bought as part of his removals business. Some Walthams from the1880s and 1900s, and a Yabsley from the 1890s among them.
Kewl. Do you want valuations on them?
There are serial number databases on the internet.

roughbarked said:

Witty Rejoinder said:
When’s Junior Sprog due home Sibeen?
She’s home :)
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
Hey, roughy, my mum has given me several pocket watches that my late father had tucked away. Quite possibly some of them were finds made by my grandfather in furniture he bought as part of his removals business. Some Walthams from the1880s and 1900s, and a Yabsley from the 1890s among them.
Kewl. Do you want valuations on them?
OH, maybe, thanks, if it’s not a hassle. Some are in better nick than other, no immediate plans to sell. I’ll round up pics etc for later discussion.
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
When’s Junior Sprog due home Sibeen?
She’s home :)
Fill her space with love.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
Hey, roughy, my mum has given me several pocket watches that my late father had tucked away. Quite possibly some of them were finds made by my grandfather in furniture he bought as part of his removals business. Some Walthams from the1880s and 1900s, and a Yabsley from the 1890s among them.
Kewl. Do you want valuations on them?
OH, maybe, thanks, if it’s not a hassle. Some are in better nick than other, no immediate plans to sell. I’ll round up pics etc for later discussion.
That would be good. Open the watch cases and show photos of the movements and dials and any case markings. Good photos if you can.
Ugh food at the asylum home isn’t nice tonight
Various foods in colours of grey and green
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:That would be good. Open the watch cases and show photos of the movements and dials and any case markings. Good photos if you can.
I’ll get Mrs S to do it. She has good cameras, and skills.
https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2018/dec/04/amazing-grace-michelle-obama-and-the-second-coming-of-a-style-icon
There ya go, Curve, you reckon the Gran is never critical of Michelle. Mind, I haven’t read the article :)
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
When’s Junior Sprog due home Sibeen?
She’s home :)
We demand a running commentary!!!
:-)
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
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All the same stone.
Witty Rejoinder said:
When’s Junior Sprog due home Sibeen?
will there be live streaming?
sibeen said:
https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2018/dec/04/amazing-grace-michelle-obama-and-the-second-coming-of-a-style-iconThere ya go, Curve, you reckon the Gran is never critical of Michelle. Mind, I haven’t read the article :)
I have never said that at all. I said that the red Christmas trees would have recieved a better reaction from the Gruin if done by Michelle.
AwesomeO said:
sibeen said:
https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2018/dec/04/amazing-grace-michelle-obama-and-the-second-coming-of-a-style-iconThere ya go, Curve, you reckon the Gran is never critical of Michelle. Mind, I haven’t read the article :)
I have never said that at all. I said that the red Christmas trees would have recieved a better reaction from the Gruin if done by Michelle.
And I haven’t read it, but “second coming” sounds like a give away.
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
When’s Junior Sprog due home Sibeen?
She’s home :)
gunna do the good cop bad cop routine?
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
When’s Junior Sprog due home Sibeen?
She’s home :)
We demand a running commentary!!!
:-)
SWMBO isn’t home as yet and I have to go out for a work function. The righteous retribution won’t start until the morrow.
AwesomeO said:
sibeen said:
https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2018/dec/04/amazing-grace-michelle-obama-and-the-second-coming-of-a-style-iconThere ya go, Curve, you reckon the Gran is never critical of Michelle. Mind, I haven’t read the article :)
I have never said that at all. I said that the red Christmas trees would have recieved a better reaction from the Gruin if done by Michelle.
:)
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
When’s Junior Sprog due home Sibeen?
She’s home :)
We demand a running commentary!!!
:-)
I suspect junior sprog has spent a few days putting social media into the burn bag and has set up a decoy account whilst she goes covert and locked down.
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
When’s Junior Sprog due home Sibeen?
She’s home :)
gunna do the good cop bad cop routine?
SWMBO is quite angry so will be playing the bad cop. Junior sprog wouldn’t believe me doing the good cop, so it’s probably going to have to be bad cop, worse cop.
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:She’s home :)
gunna do the good cop bad cop routine?
SWMBO is quite angry so will be playing the bad cop. Junior sprog wouldn’t believe me doing the good cop, so it’s probably going to have to be bad cop, worse cop.
She must know that with alcohol available kids will pinch it? Surely she did the same?
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:She’s home :)
gunna do the good cop bad cop routine?
SWMBO is quite angry so will be playing the bad cop. Junior sprog wouldn’t believe me doing the good cop, so it’s probably going to have to be bad cop, worse cop.
Has she been naughty
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:She’s home :)
gunna do the good cop bad cop routine?
SWMBO is quite angry so will be playing the bad cop. Junior sprog wouldn’t believe me doing the good cop, so it’s probably going to have to be bad cop, worse cop.
From the sounds of it, you don’t need to say anything. Remain stoic.
AwesomeO said:
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:gunna do the good cop bad cop routine?
SWMBO is quite angry so will be playing the bad cop. Junior sprog wouldn’t believe me doing the good cop, so it’s probably going to have to be bad cop, worse cop.
She must know that with alcohol available kids will pinch it? Surely she did the same?
I certainly did.
Cymek said:
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:gunna do the good cop bad cop routine?
SWMBO is quite angry so will be playing the bad cop. Junior sprog wouldn’t believe me doing the good cop, so it’s probably going to have to be bad cop, worse cop.
Has she been naughty
Is it worse when they steal your weed to share with their friends?
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:
sibeen said:SWMBO is quite angry so will be playing the bad cop. Junior sprog wouldn’t believe me doing the good cop, so it’s probably going to have to be bad cop, worse cop.
Has she been naughty
Is it worse when they steal your weed to share with their friends?
Maybe but it’s harder to argue when its illegal for you to have it as well
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:Has she been naughty
Is it worse when they steal your weed to share with their friends?
Maybe but it’s harder to argue when its illegal for you to have it as well
I doubt it makes any difference .
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:Is it worse when they steal your weed to share with their friends?
Maybe but it’s harder to argue when its illegal for you to have it as well
I doubt it makes any difference .
Of course it does, any teenager worth their salt will give you the riposte that you are not supposed to smoke it either. No moral high ground there, no appeal to authority.
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:Is it worse when they steal your weed to share with their friends?
Maybe but it’s harder to argue when its illegal for you to have it as well
I doubt it makes any difference .
Probably not
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:Maybe but it’s harder to argue when its illegal for you to have it as well
I doubt it makes any difference .
Probably not
Same outcome its still gone
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
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All the same stone.
Dollar value?
AwesomeO said:
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:Maybe but it’s harder to argue when its illegal for you to have it as well
I doubt it makes any difference .
Of course it does, any teenager worth their salt will give you the riposte that you are not supposed to smoke it either. No moral high ground there, no appeal to authority.
Well it would not matter if you didn’t raise your children to behave in such ways. ie: moral ground.
mollwollfumble said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
All the same stone.
Dollar value?
Haven’t even weighed it but I can say that it isn’t a really heavy stone. The face size is 16×8mm.

roughbarked said:
AwesomeO said:
roughbarked said:I doubt it makes any difference .
Of course it does, any teenager worth their salt will give you the riposte that you are not supposed to smoke it either. No moral high ground there, no appeal to authority.
Well it would not matter if you didn’t raise your children to behave in such ways. ie: moral ground.
Yeah well it’s weird one recreational drug is banned and the other not, all for what is cultural bias
roughbarked said:
AwesomeO said:
roughbarked said:I doubt it makes any difference .
Of course it does, any teenager worth their salt will give you the riposte that you are not supposed to smoke it either. No moral high ground there, no appeal to authority.
Well it would not matter if you didn’t raise your children to behave in such ways. ie: moral ground.
Eh? I was arguing a simple point, the difference in arguing with a kiddie about pinching alcohol and pinching marijuana.
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
AwesomeO said:Of course it does, any teenager worth their salt will give you the riposte that you are not supposed to smoke it either. No moral high ground there, no appeal to authority.
Well it would not matter if you didn’t raise your children to behave in such ways. ie: moral ground.
Yeah well it’s weird one recreational drug is banned and the other not, all for what is cultural bias
My daughter didn’t steal her mother’s alcohol to take to parties.
AwesomeO said:
roughbarked said:
AwesomeO said:Of course it does, any teenager worth their salt will give you the riposte that you are not supposed to smoke it either. No moral high ground there, no appeal to authority.
Well it would not matter if you didn’t raise your children to behave in such ways. ie: moral ground.
Eh? I was arguing a simple point, the difference in arguing with a kiddie about pinching alcohol and pinching marijuana.
Point is, in our house things were different to your simple analysis. Which couldn’t be further wrong.
roughbarked said:
AwesomeO said:
roughbarked said:Well it would not matter if you didn’t raise your children to behave in such ways. ie: moral ground.
Eh? I was arguing a simple point, the difference in arguing with a kiddie about pinching alcohol and pinching marijuana.
Point is, in our house things were different to your simple analysis. Which couldn’t be further wrong.
No not wrong. There is an argument a kiddie can mount if the product they pinch from the parents is illegal for the parents as well. Puts them both in equal standing, if anything, the parents standing is worse because they are assumed to know better.
AwesomeO said:
roughbarked said:
AwesomeO said:Eh? I was arguing a simple point, the difference in arguing with a kiddie about pinching alcohol and pinching marijuana.
Point is, in our house things were different to your simple analysis. Which couldn’t be further wrong.
No not wrong. There is an argument a kiddie can mount if the product they pinch from the parents is illegal for the parents as well. Puts them both in equal standing, if anything, the parents standing is worse because they are assumed to know better.
None of this ever happened in our house.
roughbarked said:
AwesomeO said:
roughbarked said:Point is, in our house things were different to your simple analysis. Which couldn’t be further wrong.
No not wrong. There is an argument a kiddie can mount if the product they pinch from the parents is illegal for the parents as well. Puts them both in equal standing, if anything, the parents standing is worse because they are assumed to know better.
None of this ever happened in our house.
Well bully for you, but that’s not what the discussion was about.
roughbarked said:
AwesomeO said:
roughbarked said:Point is, in our house things were different to your simple analysis. Which couldn’t be further wrong.
No not wrong. There is an argument a kiddie can mount if the product they pinch from the parents is illegal for the parents as well. Puts them both in equal standing, if anything, the parents standing is worse because they are assumed to know better.
None of this ever happened in our house.
It’s rude more than anything to pinch weed and not leave at least a couple of cones worth
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:Is it worse when they steal your weed to share with their friends?
Maybe but it’s harder to argue when its illegal for you to have it as well
I doubt it makes any difference .
And just to remind you…
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
AwesomeO said:No not wrong. There is an argument a kiddie can mount if the product they pinch from the parents is illegal for the parents as well. Puts them both in equal standing, if anything, the parents standing is worse because they are assumed to know better.
None of this ever happened in our house.
It’s rude more than anything to pinch weed and not leave at least a couple of cones worth
It’s awful when your thieving housemates are your kids… :-P
AwesomeO said:
roughbarked said:
AwesomeO said:No not wrong. There is an argument a kiddie can mount if the product they pinch from the parents is illegal for the parents as well. Puts them both in equal standing, if anything, the parents standing is worse because they are assumed to know better.
None of this ever happened in our house.
Well bully for you, but that’s not what the discussion was about.
It is because a conscious effort was made by both parents in our house to cause the cause and effect thing to stop with our children. I do comprehend your point. I’m saying that it doesn’t have to be and can be changed within one generaation.
AwesomeO said:
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:Maybe but it’s harder to argue when its illegal for you to have it as well
I doubt it makes any difference .
And just to remind you…
Of what? Specifics please.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:None of this ever happened in our house.
It’s rude more than anything to pinch weed and not leave at least a couple of cones worth
It’s awful when your thieving housemates are your kids… :-P
Not when they own up to taking a little. Sharing is caring.
roughbarked said:
AwesomeO said:
roughbarked said:None of this ever happened in our house.
Well bully for you, but that’s not what the discussion was about.
It is because a conscious effort was made by both parents in our house to cause the cause and effect thing to stop with our children. I do comprehend your point. I’m saying that it doesn’t have to be and can be changed within one generaation.
What’s “it”? Pinching stuff from the parents? Again, that’s not what the discussion was about.
AwesomeO said:
roughbarked said:
AwesomeO said:Well bully for you, but that’s not what the discussion was about.
It is because a conscious effort was made by both parents in our house to cause the cause and effect thing to stop with our children. I do comprehend your point. I’m saying that it doesn’t have to be and can be changed within one generaation.
What’s “it”? Pinching stuff from the parents? Again, that’s not what the discussion was about.
It actually happens to be the cause and effect back and forth of attempting to pull rank, seniority, authority or any other bully boy tactics.
AwesomeO said:
roughbarked said:
AwesomeO said:Well bully for you, but that’s not what the discussion was about.
It is because a conscious effort was made by both parents in our house to cause the cause and effect thing to stop with our children. I do comprehend your point. I’m saying that it doesn’t have to be and can be changed within one generaation.
What’s “it”? Pinching stuff from the parents? Again, that’s not what the discussion was about.
My kids didn’t need to pinch anything anyway.
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:Has she been naughty
Is it worse when they steal your weed to share with their friends?
Maybe but it’s harder to argue when its illegal for you to have it as well
Here ya go, it’s harder to argue. You thought not, you thought it made no difference. Now you have forgotten what you were talking about. Give the dope a break.
AwesomeO said:
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:Is it worse when they steal your weed to share with their friends?
Maybe but it’s harder to argue when its illegal for you to have it as well
Here ya go, it’s harder to argue. You thought not, you thought it made no difference. Now you have forgotten what you were talking about. Give the dope a break.
/My point was that no argument was ever put this way in our house. If other people want to play your game then more fool them.
Do you have children? What about gardeners who might steal some? How do you communicate with them?
roughbarked said:
AwesomeO said:
roughbarked said:It is because a conscious effort was made by both parents in our house to cause the cause and effect thing to stop with our children. I do comprehend your point. I’m saying that it doesn’t have to be and can be changed within one generaation.
What’s “it”? Pinching stuff from the parents? Again, that’s not what the discussion was about.
My kids didn’t need to pinch anything anyway.
Oh Jeeze. I’ll leave you to it.
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:
sibeen said:SWMBO is quite angry so will be playing the bad cop. Junior sprog wouldn’t believe me doing the good cop, so it’s probably going to have to be bad cop, worse cop.
Has she been naughty
Is it worse when they steal your weed to share with their friends?
I know this one…
AwesomeO said:
roughbarked said:
AwesomeO said:What’s “it”? Pinching stuff from the parents? Again, that’s not what the discussion was about.
My kids didn’t need to pinch anything anyway.
Oh Jeeze. I’ll leave you to it.
As I said. It is not hard to fix.
AwesomeO said:
roughbarked said:
AwesomeO said:Of course it does, any teenager worth their salt will give you the riposte that you are not supposed to smoke it either. No moral high ground there, no appeal to authority.
Well it would not matter if you didn’t raise your children to behave in such ways. ie: moral ground.
Eh? I was arguing a simple point, the difference in arguing with a kiddie about pinching alcohol and pinching marijuana.
It’s about pinching anything, not the drug.
Michael V said:
AwesomeO said:
roughbarked said:Well it would not matter if you didn’t raise your children to behave in such ways. ie: moral ground.
Eh? I was arguing a simple point, the difference in arguing with a kiddie about pinching alcohol and pinching marijuana.
It’s about pinching anything, not the drug.
yep.
Michael V said:
AwesomeO said:
roughbarked said:Well it would not matter if you didn’t raise your children to behave in such ways. ie: moral ground.
Eh? I was arguing a simple point, the difference in arguing with a kiddie about pinching alcohol and pinching marijuana.
It’s about pinching anything, not the drug.
Well yes, but there is a different moral argument when what you steal is also illegal. A parent can argue a case with a kid pinching the parents alcohol, not so easy when the kid pinches the parents illegal drugs, flattens the culpability somewhat.
My goodness!! Elvis and Zarkov in the one afternoon. And dog whistled in too. Well done, whoever did that.
AwesomeO said:
Michael V said:
AwesomeO said:Eh? I was arguing a simple point, the difference in arguing with a kiddie about pinching alcohol and pinching marijuana.
It’s about pinching anything, not the drug.
Well yes, but there is a different moral argument when what you steal is also illegal. A parent can argue a case with a kid pinching the parents alcohol, not so easy when the kid pinches the parents illegal drugs, flattens the culpability somewhat.
Yes I know but it was you who brought that up.
The thought didn’t occur to me until you raised it and when you did, I also argued that despite the theft or not theft thing. Even if it did happen to be weed, it still didn’t matter in our house between parents and children.
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
There’s a few low pressure troughs around.
That wastrel Owen was a disappointment.
A ‘Heat Health’ alert has been issued for the Central and Mallee districts of Vic tomorrow.
I heat healthed myself out of archery tonight. I did go up to the shed. It was 32 degrees in there. Even with doors open for airflow. I shot about 4 ends and decided to come home. I’ve never done heat well.
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
There’s a few low pressure troughs around.
That wastrel Owen was a disappointment.
A ‘Heat Health’ alert has been issued for the Central and Mallee districts of Vic tomorrow.
I heat healthed myself out of archery tonight. I did go up to the shed. It was 32 degrees in there. Even with doors open for airflow. I shot about 4 ends and decided to come home. I’ve never done heat well.
It gets harder the older you get.
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:Has she been naughty
Is it worse when they steal your weed to share with their friends?
Maybe but it’s harder to argue when its illegal for you to have it as well
I brought it up? Lay off the dope, it’s affecting your short term memory.
AwesomeO said:
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:Is it worse when they steal your weed to share with their friends?
Maybe but it’s harder to argue when its illegal for you to have it as well
I brought it up? Lay off the dope, it’s affecting your short term memory.
No. You did. Did not read the question posed in any way more than the one you instantly chose to run with and sytill are.
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:Is it worse when they steal your weed to share with their friends?
Maybe but it’s harder to argue when its illegal for you to have it as well
I doubt it makes any difference .
Here ya go, harder to argue and you reckon it makes no difference. I thought contrary. Lay off the dope.
AwesomeO said:
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:Maybe but it’s harder to argue when its illegal for you to have it as well
I doubt it makes any difference .
Here ya go, harder to argue and you reckon it makes no difference. I thought contrary. Lay off the dope.
you can’t let it go. Can you.
apparently the first two production F-35s have landed in Australia today… at last.
http://aviationphotodigest.com/raaf-storm-front-approaching/?fbclid=IwAR0QQWYG4jsLgvLBSvdgjWJybzcOhiQmO70×4WSDgDZjRaudlZGuW8Cj1gM
Let’s talk Christmas Tree decorations.
Do you colour-coordinate and use matching baubles and tinsel, or do you just chuck anything shiny on the tree any old how?
I’m thinking blue and silver this year might be a pleasing combination.
Summer has arrived, 36 predicted to tomorrow, around 40 on Friday.
party_pants said:
Let’s talk Christmas Tree decorations.Do you colour-coordinate and use matching baubles and tinsel, or do you just chuck anything shiny on the tree any old how?
I’m thinking blue and silver this year might be a pleasing combination.
I think it is good to change it around every now and then. I have done different colour combos. I have gone plain. Brown paper. White butcher’s paper. Tartan ribbons. Red wool.
This year I have bought some little red tinsel clip on birds. I’ll go some red baubles and red tinsel. Sven the Christmas tree (Norwegian spruce) isn’t all that big. He doesn’t need to be laden with a heap of crap.
party_pants said:
Let’s talk Christmas Tree decorations.Do you colour-coordinate and use matching baubles and tinsel, or do you just chuck anything shiny on the tree any old how?
I’m thinking blue and silver this year might be a pleasing combination.
bah humbug.
party_pants said:
Let’s talk Christmas Tree decorations.Do you colour-coordinate and use matching baubles and tinsel, or do you just chuck anything shiny on the tree any old how?
I’m thinking blue and silver this year might be a pleasing combination.
Yes, they are a good combination.
People could put up lights at various time of the year for no reason at all.
I am one of those people.
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:
Let’s talk Christmas Tree decorations.Do you colour-coordinate and use matching baubles and tinsel, or do you just chuck anything shiny on the tree any old how?
I’m thinking blue and silver this year might be a pleasing combination.
bah humbug.
I thank the honourable member for his valuable contribution to the topic.
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:
Let’s talk Christmas Tree decorations.Do you colour-coordinate and use matching baubles and tinsel, or do you just chuck anything shiny on the tree any old how?
I’m thinking blue and silver this year might be a pleasing combination.
bah humbug.
I thank the honourable member for his valuable contribution to the topic.
well, i am officially a senior now, got my card in the mail.
There are some good Crissy color combinations
red and green (traditional)
red blue green
gold and silver
silver and blue
red and silver
green and silver
purple and silver
white
silver
Tau.Neutrino said:
There are some good Crissy color combinationsred and green (traditional)
red blue green
gold and silver
silver and blue
red and silver
green and silver
purple and silver
white
silver
Black is in.
sarahs mum said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
There are some good Crissy color combinationsred and green (traditional)
red blue green
gold and silver
silver and blue
red and silver
green and silver
purple and silver
white
silver
Black is in.
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=black+christmas+decorations&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwizgtfrs4jfAhXLfCsKHTB1DXIQ_AUIDigB&biw=1138&bih=508&dpr=1.2
It is about not disturbing your normal decor. And black looks good in instagram. This is what I have read.
Can’t help thinking it is end of the world stuff.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
There are some good Crissy color combinationsred and green (traditional)
red blue green
gold and silver
silver and blue
red and silver
green and silver
purple and silver
white
silver
Black is in.
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=black+christmas+decorations&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwizgtfrs4jfAhXLfCsKHTB1DXIQ_AUIDigB&biw=1138&bih=508&dpr=1.2
It is about not disturbing your normal decor. And black looks good in instagram. This is what I have read.
Can’t help thinking it is end of the world stuff.
Black and silver.
Goths would love that idea.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/05/why-we-are-governed-by-idiots-and-you-should-be-worried?fbclid=IwAR2kNf_1DkL65M56ex5p1sxDqZJzmhk3isz0Gk6gZKnCVED8M3fKmtEIRUQ
The black satins and silver satains look good.

PermeateFree said:
Very Tolkien.
party_pants said:
Let’s talk Christmas Tree decorations.Do you colour-coordinate and use matching baubles and tinsel, or do you just chuck anything shiny on the tree any old how?
I’m thinking blue and silver this year might be a pleasing combination.
I’ve got red/gold/green this year. Silver and blue does look good, but it’s not traditional. I do usually choose a particular colour grouping. I’ve done red and gold. Green and gold. I have very little blue, but last year at work C did the window in blue and gold. I’ve got a lot of tinsel and baubles gathered over the last 30 or more years. The oldest tinsel is used on the fence outside because it then goes in the bin.
sarahs mum said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
There are some good Crissy color combinationsred and green (traditional)
red blue green
gold and silver
silver and blue
red and silver
green and silver
purple and silver
white
silver
Black is in.
But you have to buy your black tinsel at Halloween. It’s not generally around at Christmas. (How do I know these things?!)
Hang about and I’ll have a look at my pictures of my Christmas windows over the years and see what colour themes I’ve used.

Godzilla Christmas tree inside shopping mall in Tokyo, Japan
This must have been an early one, before I started amassing tinsel and baubles. My big lambswool teddy and my dolls sat around a table with a table lamp.
Ooh, I can see my golliwog in there too, sitting on Dizzy bear’s knee.
(I dress one or two windows at the front of the house, facing the street. I don’t often bother with tinsel around inside much, although I used to)
White and gold works if you take an angel theme.
We may wish I didn’t start on this…
buffy said:
We may wish I didn’t start on this…
I thank the honourable member for her helpful contribution :)
My clown dolls – I made a red one, a green one and a sad white one – and my other dolls all have a go. Notice the angel doll returns as Coppelia another year.
……..
And she is back again, this time in Egyptian mode. I refuse to ever do anything “Santa” themed.
……….
One year..when I had little space to play with..I hung some verticals of thick brown paper. The I sprayed it with a mixture of white paint, water and gloss medium. I roughly painted a snow covered spruce. And I hung lollies wrapped om gold and silver, red and green lollipops and Christmas scratchies to it with blu tack.
It actually looked great. But it was some work.
I thought it was the practice windows you dressed?
And when I bought the garden sheep, they first did service in the Christmas window. And then I did a clown theme (I seem to remember doing the clowns to annoy Droppy) in 2013.
………..
buffy said:
And she is back again, this time in Egyptian mode. I refuse to ever do anything “Santa” themed.
……….
I like that one :)
I’m just doing a plain old tree. Going through the decorations box I noticed I had heaps of blue and silver baubles, and silver tinsel. I just need to buy some blue and I’ll have a neat and elegant theme.
Witty Rejoinder said:
I thought it was the practice windows you dressed?
My receptionist does them. I do the house windows. When we first moved to Penshurst there was a Christmas lights and window dressing competition in the town. We never entered, but because so many people did, I decorated the windows because so many people walked around town looking at the lights it seemed churlish not to at least do something. If you forgot to turn the lights on, the local kids wandered around and yelled out to turn them on.
buffy said:
And when I bought the garden sheep, they first did service in the Christmas window. And then I did a clown theme (I seem to remember doing the clowns to annoy Droppy) in 2013.
………..
I like the sheep.

You might remember this one from a couple of years ago.
…….
Nearly done. The clowns came back in 2015. Terrible photo. And the bear in 2016. I think the bear stole some of the Egyptian’s feathery sparkly things.
…….
And last year was: the clowns again
Do you have a set of screens made up just for the purpose of doing the window displays, Buffy?
buffy said:
Nearly done. The clowns came back in 2015. Terrible photo. And the bear in 2016. I think the bear stole some of the Egyptian’s feathery sparkly things.
…….
Why are the clowns being executed by hanging?
I don’t seem to have photos from earlier years. I thought I did. No idea where they have got to. The year after we had our bushfire I did a phoenix rising window. I used charred sticks to look like trees, red and gold tinsel and I can’t recall what else. I’ve been a bit lacking in inspiration more recently.
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
Nearly done. The clowns came back in 2015. Terrible photo. And the bear in 2016. I think the bear stole some of the Egyptian’s feathery sparkly things.
…….
Why are the clowns being executed by hanging?
The clowns are climbing up a ladder from a set of bunk beds we once had. We gave the bunks away, but for some reason I still have the ladder.
party_pants said:
Do you have a set of screens made up just for the purpose of doing the window displays, Buffy?
No. I bought a cheap three part folding screen made from light wood with fabric panels and I use that to screen the room off. Although this year I haven’t bothered to drag out the screen.
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
Nearly done. The clowns came back in 2015. Terrible photo. And the bear in 2016. I think the bear stole some of the Egyptian’s feathery sparkly things.
…….
Why are the clowns being executed by hanging?
cos they’ve been naughty.
Whatafuckenday
dv said:
Whatafuckenday
youokay?
The crossbench will threaten the government’s control on the floor of the House of Representatives on Thursday
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/morrison-government-exposed-to-a-humiliating-defeat-in-parliament-on-final-sitting-day-20181205-p50kgb.html?fbclid=IwAR1bgNoLxbCer5KuoTBD08MEctXG3WofuNPgIzxeeyaBgsON4AyYQUg0yus
sarahs mum said:
The crossbench will threaten the government’s control on the floor of the House of Representatives on Thursdayhttps://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/morrison-government-exposed-to-a-humiliating-defeat-in-parliament-on-final-sitting-day-20181205-p50kgb.html?fbclid=IwAR1bgNoLxbCer5KuoTBD08MEctXG3WofuNPgIzxeeyaBgsON4AyYQUg0yus
The vote is about getting children off Nauru, is that right ?
I have returned home. Perhaps sated, definitely on the partyish side of tipsy.
Apparently since I’ve been away – approximately 5.5 hours – junior sprog has not been sighted by the others who also call this house a home. It shall be interesting upon the morrow to see whether I have a second daughter.
sibeen said:
I have returned home. Perhaps sated, definitely on the partyish side of tipsy.Apparently since I’ve been away – approximately 5.5 hours – junior sprog has not been sighted by the others who also call this house a home. It shall be interesting upon the morrow to see whether I have a second daughter.
Maybe she’s in her room drinking wine
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
I have returned home. Perhaps sated, definitely on the partyish side of tipsy.Apparently since I’ve been away – approximately 5.5 hours – junior sprog has not been sighted by the others who also call this house a home. It shall be interesting upon the morrow to see whether I have a second daughter.
Maybe she’s in her room drinking wine
There is that. I would not put it past her. She’s pure evil; a chip off the old block.
sibeen said:
I have returned home. Perhaps sated, definitely on the partyish side of tipsy.Apparently since I’ve been away – approximately 5.5 hours – junior sprog has not been sighted by the others who also call this house a home. It shall be interesting upon the morrow to see whether I have a second daughter.
Is this her first offence of this nature?
Tau.Neutrino said:
sarahs mum said:
The crossbench will threaten the government’s control on the floor of the House of Representatives on Thursdayhttps://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/morrison-government-exposed-to-a-humiliating-defeat-in-parliament-on-final-sitting-day-20181205-p50kgb.html?fbclid=IwAR1bgNoLxbCer5KuoTBD08MEctXG3WofuNPgIzxeeyaBgsON4AyYQUg0yus
The vote is about getting children off Nauru, is that right ?
And medicals for adults?
btm said:
sibeen said:
I have returned home. Perhaps sated, definitely on the partyish side of tipsy.Apparently since I’ve been away – approximately 5.5 hours – junior sprog has not been sighted by the others who also call this house a home. It shall be interesting upon the morrow to see whether I have a second daughter.
Is this her first offence of this nature?
Nyet. There was an occurrence earlier in the year. I thought I’d put the fear of dog into her and it wouldn’t happen again.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
I have returned home. Perhaps sated, definitely on the partyish side of tipsy.Apparently since I’ve been away – approximately 5.5 hours – junior sprog has not been sighted by the others who also call this house a home. It shall be interesting upon the morrow to see whether I have a second daughter.
Maybe she’s in her room drinking wine
There is that. I would not put it past her. She’s pure evil; a chip off the old block.
You’d better just check that she is OK.
There are thousands of words, small libraries devoted to defining the various malignancies in Australian political life, but Anthony Albanese says at least one root cause is simple to identify. A lot of politicians in 2018 are lonely.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/05/anthony-albanese-on-how-mps-loneliness-feeds-parliaments-coup-culture?CMP=soc_567&fbclid=IwAR0edUtA7zw3nFALzy6sMIaOjuEsNbHWKtXpoFEaU5alIVRqfjNIg7wApd4
aw.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:Maybe she’s in her room drinking wine
There is that. I would not put it past her. She’s pure evil; a chip off the old block.
You’d better just check that she is OK.
There have been signs that she may be OK. The dishwasher mysteriously starting up. The bins being way fuller that they should be after being emptied on Monday, The strange noises emanating from upstairs. A bit like the night parrot,she is heard, but never seen.
sarahs mum said:
There are thousands of words, small libraries devoted to defining the various malignancies in Australian political life, but Anthony Albanese says at least one root cause is simple to identify. A lot of politicians in 2018 are lonely.https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/05/anthony-albanese-on-how-mps-loneliness-feeds-parliaments-coup-culture?CMP=soc_567&fbclid=IwAR0edUtA7zw3nFALzy6sMIaOjuEsNbHWKtXpoFEaU5alIVRqfjNIg7wApd4
aw.
I’m certain that Anthony will become very friendly with all his lonely colleges after the next election.
sarahs mum said:
There are thousands of words, small libraries devoted to defining the various malignancies in Australian political life, but Anthony Albanese says at least one root cause is simple to identify. A lot of politicians in 2018 are lonely.https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/05/anthony-albanese-on-how-mps-loneliness-feeds-parliaments-coup-culture?CMP=soc_567&fbclid=IwAR0edUtA7zw3nFALzy6sMIaOjuEsNbHWKtXpoFEaU5alIVRqfjNIg7wApd4
aw.
we could get them all a “companion” on a 457 visa.
or they could just turn off SkyNews and ABC24 for a few hours a day.
sarahs mum said:
The crossbench will threaten the government’s control on the floor of the House of Representatives on Thursdayhttps://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/morrison-government-exposed-to-a-humiliating-defeat-in-parliament-on-final-sitting-day-20181205-p50kgb.html?fbclid=IwAR1bgNoLxbCer5KuoTBD08MEctXG3WofuNPgIzxeeyaBgsON4AyYQUg0yus
It’s all very exciting
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
There are thousands of words, small libraries devoted to defining the various malignancies in Australian political life, but Anthony Albanese says at least one root cause is simple to identify. A lot of politicians in 2018 are lonely.https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/05/anthony-albanese-on-how-mps-loneliness-feeds-parliaments-coup-culture?CMP=soc_567&fbclid=IwAR0edUtA7zw3nFALzy6sMIaOjuEsNbHWKtXpoFEaU5alIVRqfjNIg7wApd4
aw.
we could get them all a “companion” on a 457 visa.
or they could just turn off SkyNews and ABC24 for a few hours a day.
‘I have lots of friends in this building’: Emma Husar considers crossbench move
Labor is well aware of Ms Husar’s unhappiness and is prepared for her possible defection to the crossbench.
One Labor source suggested the party should promise Ms Husar an alternative role. “She’s not going to be the next ambassador to Turkmenistan but why can’t she be the prime minister’s envoy for Jatz crackers or something?
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/i-have-lots-of-friends-in-this-building-emma-husar-considers-crossbench-move-20181204-p50k6e.html
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
There are thousands of words, small libraries devoted to defining the various malignancies in Australian political life, but Anthony Albanese says at least one root cause is simple to identify. A lot of politicians in 2018 are lonely.https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/05/anthony-albanese-on-how-mps-loneliness-feeds-parliaments-coup-culture?CMP=soc_567&fbclid=IwAR0edUtA7zw3nFALzy6sMIaOjuEsNbHWKtXpoFEaU5alIVRqfjNIg7wApd4
aw.
we could get them all a “companion” on a 457 visa.
or they could just turn off SkyNews and ABC24 for a few hours a day.
‘’‘I have lots of friends in this building’: Emma Husar considers crossbench move
Labor is well aware of Ms Husar’s unhappiness and is prepared for her possible defection to the crossbench.
One Labor source suggested the party should promise Ms Husar an alternative role. “She’s not going to be the next ambassador to Turkmenistan but why can’t she be the prime minister’s envoy for Jatz crackers or something?
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/i-have-lots-of-friends-in-this-building-emma-husar-considers-crossbench-move-20181204-p50k6e.html
Minister For Science and Space Research.
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
Let’s talk Christmas Tree decorations.Do you colour-coordinate and use matching baubles and tinsel, or do you just chuck anything shiny on the tree any old how?
I’m thinking blue and silver this year might be a pleasing combination.
I think it is good to change it around every now and then. I have done different colour combos. I have gone plain. Brown paper. White butcher’s paper. Tartan ribbons. Red wool.
This year I have bought some little red tinsel clip on birds. I’ll go some red baubles and red tinsel. Sven the Christmas tree (Norwegian spruce) isn’t all that big. He doesn’t need to be laden with a heap of crap.
I don’t do Christmas decorations. Mrs V does the teensiest amount.
Liberal Democrats Senator David Leyonhjelm has thanked “young brown men” for their contribution to Australia’s workforce, in a speech that has been labelled “condescending”.
Senator Leyonhjelm paid tribute to young migrants, from the subcontinent and the Middle East, for “turning up their sleeves” at jobs “many other Aussies would turn up their noses at”.
“Let me say thank you to Australia’s young brown men,” Senator Leyonhjelm said.
“They drive me in their Ubers and taxis. They deliver my online purchases, my groceries and my pizza. And they serve me at my local 7-Eleven, at my local service station, and my local restaurants.
“Many of these young brown men have only been in Australia for a decade or so, and they are giving it go, just like previous generations of young migrants.”
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/senator-praises-young-brown-men-for-delivering-his-pizza?fbclid=IwAR0331qcS4dh5laxKfI-mjbKym5k5hbufwah0uI1STwdRiUMZ5PuefCo2p4
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:bah humbug.
I thank the honourable member for his valuable contribution to the topic.
well, i am officially a senior now, got my card in the mail.
You 65?
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:I thank the honourable member for his valuable contribution to the topic.
well, i am officially a senior now, got my card in the mail.
You 65?
Oh, I misread that, I thought he said senile.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
Let’s talk Christmas Tree decorations.Do you colour-coordinate and use matching baubles and tinsel, or do you just chuck anything shiny on the tree any old how?
I’m thinking blue and silver this year might be a pleasing combination.
I think it is good to change it around every now and then. I have done different colour combos. I have gone plain. Brown paper. White butcher’s paper. Tartan ribbons. Red wool.
This year I have bought some little red tinsel clip on birds. I’ll go some red baubles and red tinsel. Sven the Christmas tree (Norwegian spruce) isn’t all that big. He doesn’t need to be laden with a heap of crap.
I don’t do Christmas decorations. Mrs V does the teensiest amount.
I do it just to piss people off.
sarahs mum said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
There are some good Crissy color combinationsred and green (traditional)
red blue green
gold and silver
silver and blue
red and silver
green and silver
purple and silver
white
silver
Black is in.
Ma very most favourite colour combination is black and gold. Real gold, that is – not the fake stuff that only remotely looks like gold.
buffy said:
And she is back again, this time in Egyptian mode. I refuse to ever do anything “Santa” themed.
……….
Now that is seriously cool, and spooky at the same time. Well done.
:)
Oh, Mr V is on catch-up.
Good evening from 10 minutes ago Mr V :)
PermeateFree said:
LOL. Really.
:)
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
There are some good Crissy color combinationsred and green (traditional)
red blue green
gold and silver
silver and blue
red and silver
green and silver
purple and silver
white
silver
Black is in.
Ma very most favourite colour combination is black and gold. Real gold, that is – not the fake stuff that only remotely looks like gold.
It’s very London. Down pipe in black. Decoration and banding in gold.(gotta love heraldry on a downpipe.) Shop window painted black. Signwriting in gold.
dv said:
Whatafuckenday
Wotfuckenhappened?
btm said:
sibeen said:
I have returned home. Perhaps sated, definitely on the partyish side of tipsy.Apparently since I’ve been away – approximately 5.5 hours – junior sprog has not been sighted by the others who also call this house a home. It shall be interesting upon the morrow to see whether I have a second daughter.
Is this her first offence of this nature?
(Would anybody know?)
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:well, i am officially a senior now, got my card in the mail.
You 65?
Oh, I misread that, I thought he said senile.
snigger
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:I think it is good to change it around every now and then. I have done different colour combos. I have gone plain. Brown paper. White butcher’s paper. Tartan ribbons. Red wool.
This year I have bought some little red tinsel clip on birds. I’ll go some red baubles and red tinsel. Sven the Christmas tree (Norwegian spruce) isn’t all that big. He doesn’t need to be laden with a heap of crap.
I don’t do Christmas decorations. Mrs V does the teensiest amount.
I do it just to piss people off.
Don’t do all night flashing blue lights around Mrs V. It would not end well, particularly on the perpetrator’s side. Me? I hate it too, but take the EtOH solution very seriously.
party_pants said:
Oh, Mr V is on catch-up.Good evening from 10 minutes ago Mr V :)
Yeah, OK. I had to cook dinner and then eat it then wash up everything. Sorry…
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:Black is in.
Ma very most favourite colour combination is black and gold. Real gold, that is – not the fake stuff that only remotely looks like gold.
It’s very London. Down pipe in black. Decoration and banding in gold.(gotta love heraldry on a downpipe.) Shop window painted black. Signwriting in gold.
That’s the not-gold gold.
Black with real gold is super heaps much betterer.
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
Oh, Mr V is on catch-up.Good evening from 10 minutes ago Mr V :)
Yeah, OK. I had to cook dinner and then eat it then wash up everything. Sorry…
And when I finally get to the end, nobody’s here.
Dharma…
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Michael V said:
And when I finally get to the end, nobody’s here.
Dharma…
Just wandered by.. missed it but I’m happy to say “hi” :D
Spider Lily said:
Michael V said:And when I finally get to the end, nobody’s here.
Dharma…
Just wandered by.. missed it but I’m happy to say “hi” :D
*waves.
sarahs mum said:
*waves.
Hello SM.. are you getting organised for the festive season? Are you having the day with you family at yours or are you and Mr Cobbet heading into town :)
Spider Lily said:
Michael V said:And when I finally get to the end, nobody’s here.
Dharma…
Just wandered by.. missed it but I’m happy to say “hi” :D
G’devening!
:)
What’s happening?
Spider Lily said:
sarahs mum said:*waves.
Hello SM.. are you getting organised for the festive season? Are you having the day with you family at yours or are you and Mr Cobbet heading into town :)
I’m getting organised to go to Kyogle to see the brother who is in bad shape. Flying out Sat morning. Jetstar. Anything could happen.
Christmas Day I am spending with Sarah and Tim and Tim’s parents. Boxing Day is off. Quite happy about that.
Michael V said:
G’devening!
:)
What’s happening?
Oooh heaps :)… I’m heading to Tassie on Friday for my SILs 60th, I will then work for a week in my old office.. Then as of the 17th I’m on leave and will spend all that time with my Dad, family and friends old and new.. :D
You?
sarahs mum said:
There are thousands of words, small libraries devoted to defining the various malignancies in Australian political life, but Anthony Albanese says at least one root cause is simple to identify. A lot of politicians in 2018 are lonely.https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/05/anthony-albanese-on-how-mps-loneliness-feeds-parliaments-coup-culture?CMP=soc_567&fbclid=IwAR0edUtA7zw3nFALzy6sMIaOjuEsNbHWKtXpoFEaU5alIVRqfjNIg7wApd4
aw.
a strange world, minus any strangeness, the atomized socialized
a little of Mussolini in the many, you’d never notice.
everyone shall have a job, and nobody shall work against the state
substitute social construction of reality for state
it evolved, unrecognizable.
Spider Lily said:
Michael V said:G’devening!
:)
What’s happening?
Oooh heaps :)… I’m heading to Tassie on Friday for my SILs 60th, I will then work for a week in my old office.. Then as of the 17th I’m on leave and will spend all that time with my Dad, family and friends old and new.. :D
You?
Sounds good. What is DO doing?
sarahs mum said:
I’m getting organised to go to Kyogle to see the brother who is in bad shape. Flying out Sat morning. Jetstar. Anything could happen.Christmas Day I am spending with Sarah and Tim and Tim’s parents. Boxing Day is off. Quite happy about that.
Well doesn’t your brother live in a very lovely part of Australia? I do hope all goes well for him and you..
DO will be spending time with his family down the road.. There is Alzheimer’s involved so he needs to be there and I need to be where I need to be. Ageing parents tend to keep your attention :) When do you leave?
Spider Lily said:
When do you leave?
When do you get back… probably the better question. :)
Spider Lily said:
Michael V said:G’devening!
:)
What’s happening?
Oooh heaps :)… I’m heading to Tassie on Friday for my SILs 60th, I will then work for a week in my old office.. Then as of the 17th I’m on leave and will spend all that time with my Dad, family and friends old and new.. :D
You?
We’re fiddling around, trying to get a few jobs done. The fires didn’t impact greatly, but the warnings about the nearby fire kept my attention. Rain has suppressed, but not extinguished it. I’m not all that well (and nobody understands why), but many others are worse.
Woodie’s coming here for a few days and we’ll all go choo-choo train riding from Gympie (thanks to DA’s recommendation). We’ll go to his place for a Christmas Bacchanalia and food festival (and a bit of work to keep our lovely southern resort up to scratch). Son and family come here after Christmas for a get together.
Spider Lily said:
sarahs mum said:
I’m getting organised to go to Kyogle to see the brother who is in bad shape. Flying out Sat morning. Jetstar. Anything could happen.Christmas Day I am spending with Sarah and Tim and Tim’s parents. Boxing Day is off. Quite happy about that.
Well doesn’t your brother live in a very lovely part of Australia? I do hope all goes well for him and you..
DO will be spending time with his family down the road.. There is Alzheimer’s involved so he needs to be there and I need to be where I need to be. Ageing parents tend to keep your attention :) When do you leave?
Say g’day to DO, please.
:)
Spider Lily said:
sarahs mum said:
I’m getting organised to go to Kyogle to see the brother who is in bad shape. Flying out Sat morning. Jetstar. Anything could happen.Christmas Day I am spending with Sarah and Tim and Tim’s parents. Boxing Day is off. Quite happy about that.
Well doesn’t your brother live in a very lovely part of Australia? I do hope all goes well for him and you..
DO will be spending time with his family down the road.. There is Alzheimer’s involved so he needs to be there and I need to be where I need to be. Ageing parents tend to keep your attention :) When do you leave?
I going on Saturday and coming back the next weekend. We’ll only be spending a couple of day’s with John. I talked to my nephew tonight. He warned me that the smell of dying in the house is really bad. Although John was knocked about by the last of chem he seems to be a little iproved again over the past couple of days. He still isn’t eating.
Michael V said:
We’re fiddling around, trying to get a few jobs done. The fires didn’t impact greatly, but the warnings about the nearby fire kept my attention. Rain has suppressed, but not extinguished it. I’m not all that well (and nobody understands why), but many others are worse.
Woodie’s coming here for a few days and we’ll all go choo-choo train riding from Gympie (thanks to DA’s recommendation). We’ll go to his place for a Christmas Bacchanalia and food festival (and a bit of work to keep our lovely southern resort up to scratch). Son and family come here after Christmas for a get together.
Oh I love all of that!! I have to say I haven’t heard of the choo-choo train (bit of a fan of steam trains) but it sounds wonderful.. Hmmm not sure about Woodie though :P
However I believe it would be it will be fabulous at his for Christmas Bacchanalis (what ever)
:D
Spider Lily said:
Michael V said:We’re fiddling around, trying to get a few jobs done. The fires didn’t impact greatly, but the warnings about the nearby fire kept my attention. Rain has suppressed, but not extinguished it. I’m not all that well (and nobody understands why), but many others are worse.
Woodie’s coming here for a few days and we’ll all go choo-choo train riding from Gympie (thanks to DA’s recommendation). We’ll go to his place for a Christmas Bacchanalia and food festival (and a bit of work to keep our lovely southern resort up to scratch). Son and family come here after Christmas for a get together.
Oh I love all of that!! I have to say I haven’t heard of the choo-choo train (bit of a fan of steam trains) but it sounds wonderful.. Hmmm not sure about Woodie though :P
However I believe it would be it will be fabulous at his for Christmas Bacchanalis (what ever):D
Mary Valley Rattler. Volunteer-run steam train running from Gympie.
sarahs mum said:
I going on Saturday and coming back the next weekend. We’ll only be spending a couple of day’s with John. I talked to my nephew tonight. He warned me that the smell of dying in the house is really bad. Although John was knocked about by the last of chem he seems to be a little iproved again over the past couple of days. He still isn’t eating.
Well, I’m not going to make any promises but if it is ok with you I would love to come down for a night.. I need to of course have access to my Dad’s car etc.. but after the 19th if I can I would love to come for a visit… I do also have a nephew in Snug so I could bring the two together.. Maybe. :D
Michael V said:
Mary Valley Rattler. Volunteer-run steam train running from Gympie.
Well I’m going to have to keep than one in mind.. Don’t imagine it would be running to much in this heat though… Poor little steam trains always get stalled in big heat :(
Spider Lily said:
sarahs mum said:
I going on Saturday and coming back the next weekend. We’ll only be spending a couple of day’s with John. I talked to my nephew tonight. He warned me that the smell of dying in the house is really bad. Although John was knocked about by the last of chem he seems to be a little iproved again over the past couple of days. He still isn’t eating.
Well, I’m not going to make any promises but if it is ok with you I would love to come down for a night.. I need to of course have access to my Dad’s car etc.. but after the 19th if I can I would love to come for a visit… I do also have a nephew in Snug so I could bring the two together.. Maybe. :D
Sounds good. I shall be around. :) I’d love to see you..
sarahs mum said:
Sounds good. I shall be around. :) I’d love to see you..
I would of course call into Snug Butcher.. not only for the produce but to ‘just feel better’ :D
Spider Lily said:
Michael V said:
Mary Valley Rattler. Volunteer-run steam train running from Gympie.
Well I’m going to have to keep than one in mind.. Don’t imagine it would be running to much in this heat though… Poor little steam trains always get stalled in big heat :(
Well, you’re oh-so-welcome to come stay with us when you want to go for a ride.
Ughh.
This skin. Anyone want it?
Free to good home.
Interesting list when looked by date. I’d‘ve thought that Iceland would lead the list. USA does. Australia has the tenth oldest constitution.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_constitutions
Last year, rainbow lorikeet was the top bird in both Vic and WA. It’s dropped off a bit. Sparrow numbers are up in Vic and Tas. I’ve downloaded the Excel spreadsheet of results from the second link of https://aussiebirdcount.org.au/2018-results/

mollwollfumble said:
Last year, rainbow lorikeet was the top bird in both Vic and WA. It’s dropped off a bit. Sparrow numbers are up in Vic and Tas. I’ve downloaded the Excel spreadsheet of results from the second link of https://aussiebirdcount.org.au/2018-results/
National top 20 bird species sighted. By number of birds. House sparrow is creeping up the charts. Not great news, I’ve been noticing it displacing red-browed finch this year.
From 2018

From 2017

From 2016

12, heading for 27. Having a cup of tea then a shower then a morning walk.
Michael V said:
Ughh.This skin. Anyone want it?
Free to good home.
Mine is all falling off again. it is a bastard.
mollwollfumble said:
Last year, rainbow lorikeet was the top bird in both Vic and WA. It’s dropped off a bit. Sparrow numbers are up in Vic and Tas. I’ve downloaded the Excel spreadsheet of results from the second link of https://aussiebirdcount.org.au/2018-results/
I’ve got rainbow lorikeets here for the first time in the last year. The starlings are suddenly a problem again and the English bblackbird numbers have gone up. Sparrows are on the slow increase again as well. Everything else seems to be in decline except the crested pigeons and the white rumped miner.
Good morning Holidayers. We have 13 degrees, going for mid thirties.
Egg flip for breakfast. Haven’t had one for years.
Morning.
21.4°C heading for 35 or 6.
Will be 38 or 9 by Saturday..
here’s the seven days maximums. 35°C 37°C 39°C 38°C 33°C 34°C 34°C
I should head off to work I suppose.
And that was another very pleasant morning walk in the countryside.
Now for a healthy breakfast of green beans.
Bubblecar said:
And that was another very pleasant morning walk in the countryside.Now for a healthy breakfast of green beans.
Beans Beans Beans, the musical fruit, the more you eat the more you toot…
Morning, clear sunny and windy in the Styx.
Good morning everybody.
Cooler (but still warm) and windy with short showers.
21.1°C, 85% RH and overcast (dark and light patches) with breezes gusting to moderate. On and off short showers last night, but I haven’t checked ORB yet. Possibly 2 mm is my guess. The King’s Bore Road fire that seemed so threatening has been taken off the list, so I guess it is completely extinguished now. Another has started to the west of it for me to keep checking.
BoM predict 25°C, up from a low of 19.4°C and some more rain today. BoM reports 6 mm. It’d be good if we had gotten that much.
I got another job on the very long list (VLL) completed yesterday before my feet swelled so much I had to get them in the air above my head. More to do though. More to do.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Ughh.This skin. Anyone want it?
Free to good home.
Mine is all falling off again. it is a bastard.
What’s causing that?
Michael V said:
Good morning everybody.Cooler (but still warm) and windy with short showers.
21.1°C, 85% RH and overcast (dark and light patches) with breezes gusting to moderate. On and off short showers last night, but I haven’t checked ORB yet. Possibly 2 mm is my guess. The King’s Bore Road fire that seemed so threatening has been taken off the list, so I guess it is completely extinguished now. Another has started to the west of it for me to keep checking.
BoM predict 25°C, up from a low of 19.4°C and some more rain today. BoM reports 6 mm. It’d be good if we had gotten that much.
I got another job on the very long list (VLL) completed yesterday before my feet swelled so much I had to get them in the air above my head. More to do though. More to do.
Sympathies with you & your poor feet, Michael.
I often get sluggish circulation in my calves and feet, presumably due to too much inactivity. But they don’t actually swell up.
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Good morning everybody.Cooler (but still warm) and windy with short showers.
21.1°C, 85% RH and overcast (dark and light patches) with breezes gusting to moderate. On and off short showers last night, but I haven’t checked ORB yet. Possibly 2 mm is my guess. The King’s Bore Road fire that seemed so threatening has been taken off the list, so I guess it is completely extinguished now. Another has started to the west of it for me to keep checking.
BoM predict 25°C, up from a low of 19.4°C and some more rain today. BoM reports 6 mm. It’d be good if we had gotten that much.
I got another job on the very long list (VLL) completed yesterday before my feet swelled so much I had to get them in the air above my head. More to do though. More to do.
Sympathies with you & your poor feet, Michael.
I often get sluggish circulation in my calves and feet, presumably due to too much inactivity. But they don’t actually swell up.
How’s your alcohol intake these days?
3. Alcohol
Drinking alcohol can lead to swollen feet since your body retains more water after drinking. Usually it will go away within a few days. If the swelling doesn’t subside in this time, it could be cause for concern.
If swelling occurs in your feet frequently when you drink alcohol, it may be a sign of a problem with your liver, heart, or kidneys. This could also be a sign that you’re consuming too much alcohol.
To treat swollen feet due to alcohol consumption:
Increase your water intake.
Reduce your salt intake.
Rest with your feet elevated.
Soak your feet in cool water.
https://www.healthline.com/health/swollen-feet
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Good morning everybody.Cooler (but still warm) and windy with short showers.
21.1°C, 85% RH and overcast (dark and light patches) with breezes gusting to moderate. On and off short showers last night, but I haven’t checked ORB yet. Possibly 2 mm is my guess. The King’s Bore Road fire that seemed so threatening has been taken off the list, so I guess it is completely extinguished now. Another has started to the west of it for me to keep checking.
BoM predict 25°C, up from a low of 19.4°C and some more rain today. BoM reports 6 mm. It’d be good if we had gotten that much.
I got another job on the very long list (VLL) completed yesterday before my feet swelled so much I had to get them in the air above my head. More to do though. More to do.
Sympathies with you & your poor feet, Michael.
I often get sluggish circulation in my calves and feet, presumably due to too much inactivity. But they don’t actually swell up.
Thanks.
:)
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Good morning everybody.Cooler (but still warm) and windy with short showers.
21.1°C, 85% RH and overcast (dark and light patches) with breezes gusting to moderate. On and off short showers last night, but I haven’t checked ORB yet. Possibly 2 mm is my guess. The King’s Bore Road fire that seemed so threatening has been taken off the list, so I guess it is completely extinguished now. Another has started to the west of it for me to keep checking.
BoM predict 25°C, up from a low of 19.4°C and some more rain today. BoM reports 6 mm. It’d be good if we had gotten that much.
I got another job on the very long list (VLL) completed yesterday before my feet swelled so much I had to get them in the air above my head. More to do though. More to do.
Sympathies with you & your poor feet, Michael.
I often get sluggish circulation in my calves and feet, presumably due to too much inactivity. But they don’t actually swell up.
How’s your alcohol intake these days?
3. Alcohol
Drinking alcohol can lead to swollen feet since your body retains more water after drinking. Usually it will go away within a few days. If the swelling doesn’t subside in this time, it could be cause for concern.
If swelling occurs in your feet frequently when you drink alcohol, it may be a sign of a problem with your liver, heart, or kidneys. This could also be a sign that you’re consuming too much alcohol.
To treat swollen feet due to alcohol consumption:
Increase your water intake.
Reduce your salt intake.
Rest with your feet elevated.
Soak your feet in cool water.https://www.healthline.com/health/swollen-feet
Yes. I have read that (several times in fact).
I am working (but unsuccessfully to date) on solving this EtOH problem. I am starting to think that EtOH may be the root of several issues.
Michael V said:
I am starting to think that EtOH may be the root of several issues.
Health scientists are starting to reveal some pretty alarming things about it.
A mate (Pancreatitis guy, in case you remember him) has just been told he’s never allowed to drink again and put on a medication that will make him feel sick if he does. Poik might know more. There’s other medications that can adjust your fluid balance, if you’ve got lots of swelling. Good luck with it, mate.
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:I am starting to think that EtOH may be the root of several issues.
Health scientists are starting to reveal some pretty alarming things about it.
A mate (Pancreatitis guy, in case you remember him) has just been told he’s never allowed to drink again and put on a medication that will make him feel sick if he does. Poik might know more. There’s other medications that can adjust your fluid balance, if you’ve got lots of swelling. Good luck with it, mate.
Playwright Louis Nowra wrote about his pancreatitis, and how, when he was in hospital, they kept him doped to the eyeballs just to stop him constantly screaming at the top of his lungs.
Pancreatitis sufferers deserve sympathy, no matter how they got it.
Greetings and such.
Lovely autumnal weather. I pottered around the back porch and cleaned off the pavers. Did a few loads of washing.
mr kii will be getting B12 shots apparently. He’s already bouncing around like Tigger on speed. I fear for my ongoing sanity.
kii said:
Greetings and such.
Lovely autumnal weather. I pottered around the back porch and cleaned off the pavers. Did a few loads of washing.mr kii will be getting B12 shots apparently. He’s already bouncing around like Tigger on speed. I fear for my ongoing sanity.
sorta spring here. rainy. cool.
Morning pilgrims, I slept in.
Reading bout sensory perception: Sight, hearing, smell, touch, taste, temperature, level, up/down, pitch, body position etc… I found myself wondering whether there’s any others. Mood? Safety? Disease? Impending doom (this one’s real, actually), Speed? Acceleration? Colour combination? Image construction?
captain_spalding said:
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:I am starting to think that EtOH may be the root of several issues.
Health scientists are starting to reveal some pretty alarming things about it.
A mate (Pancreatitis guy, in case you remember him) has just been told he’s never allowed to drink again and put on a medication that will make him feel sick if he does. Poik might know more. There’s other medications that can adjust your fluid balance, if you’ve got lots of swelling. Good luck with it, mate.
Playwright Louis Nowra wrote about his pancreatitis, and how, when he was in hospital, they kept him doped to the eyeballs just to stop him constantly screaming at the top of his lungs.
Pancreatitis sufferers deserve sympathy, no matter how they got it.
Doesn’t sound very pleasant.
Bogsnorkler said:
kii said:
Greetings and such.
Lovely autumnal weather. I pottered around the back porch and cleaned off the pavers. Did a few loads of washing.mr kii will be getting B12 shots apparently. He’s already bouncing around like Tigger on speed. I fear for my ongoing sanity.
sorta spring here. rainy. cool.
It’s cool here too, summer was hot and sharp with a small storm and a failed cyclone, and very short.
Rule 303 said:
Reading bout sensory perception: Sight, hearing, smell, touch, taste, temperature, level, up/down, pitch, body position etc… I found myself wondering whether there’s any others. Mood? Safety? Disease? Impending doom (this one’s real, actually), Speed? Acceleration? Colour combination? Image construction?
Are you talking about heart attacks?
kii said:
Mr kii’s looking well.
Progress snap, still a lot to do. Don’t know if it’ll be finished before Xmas after all.
I’ll snap it up the right way next time :)
Good morning.
I’ve set myself up in the liberry for some writing today. So don;t talk about anything interesting and distract me.
Coolish today, with a chilly wind. Overcast and a top of 24 today.
Is taking advantage of a glitch in a game, bad karma?
Peak Warming Man said:
kii said:
Mr kii’s looking well.
Yep, we both have a bit of colour in our cheeks.
Bubblecar said:
Progress snap, still a lot to do. Don’t know if it’ll be finished before Xmas after all.I’ll snap it up the right way next time :)
Oooo……noice!
Rule 303 said:
Reading bout sensory perception: Sight, hearing, smell, touch, taste, temperature, level, up/down, pitch, body position etc… I found myself wondering whether there’s any others. Mood? Safety? Disease? Impending doom (this one’s real, actually), Speed? Acceleration? Colour combination? Image construction?
kii said:
Greetings and such.
Lovely autumnal weather. I pottered around the back porch and cleaned off the pavers. Did a few loads of washing.mr kii will be getting B12 shots apparently. He’s already bouncing around like Tigger on speed. I fear for my ongoing sanity.
Find him lots of tiring jobs to attend to.
Bubblecar said:
kii said:
Greetings and such.
Lovely autumnal weather. I pottered around the back porch and cleaned off the pavers. Did a few loads of washing.mr kii will be getting B12 shots apparently. He’s already bouncing around like Tigger on speed. I fear for my ongoing sanity.
Find him lots of tiring jobs to attend to.
I’ll just wait until he realises that his back/knee/shoulders hurt too much after being a Speedy Tigger.
He also has ADHD and retirement seems to have loosened the reigns on that one :/
Gonna go watch some Netflix quality crap.
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:
Reading bout sensory perception: Sight, hearing, smell, touch, taste, temperature, level, up/down, pitch, body position etc… I found myself wondering whether there’s any others. Mood? Safety? Disease? Impending doom (this one’s real, actually), Speed? Acceleration? Colour combination? Image construction?
Are you talking about heart attacks?
Sensation of impending doom is a symptom that goes with a few things, of which heart problems are one.
btm said:
Rule 303 said:
Reading bout sensory perception: Sight, hearing, smell, touch, taste, temperature, level, up/down, pitch, body position etc… I found myself wondering whether there’s any others. Mood? Safety? Disease? Impending doom (this one’s real, actually), Speed? Acceleration? Colour combination? Image construction?
That’s what I meant by ‘body position’, but I understand it’s a little more than that.
ScoMo is melting down on abc 24.
This parliament is not reality TV.
Bubblecar said:
Progress snap, still a lot to do. Don’t know if it’ll be finished before Xmas after all.I’ll snap it up the right way next time :)
Don’t.
It won’t help my chronic envy of people who are blessed with both creativity and talent.
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:
Reading bout sensory perception: Sight, hearing, smell, touch, taste, temperature, level, up/down, pitch, body position etc… I found myself wondering whether there’s any others. Mood? Safety? Disease? Impending doom (this one’s real, actually), Speed? Acceleration? Colour combination? Image construction?
Are you talking about heart attacks?
Sensation of impending doom is a symptom that goes with a few things, of which heart problems are one.
I get that during panic attacks.
I suspect some senses are not noticed until you meet someone who doesn’t have it/them. What’s going on, for example, that people with entirely normal hearing can be utterly tone deaf, or have perfect pitch?
Bubblecar said:
Progress snap, still a lot to do. Don’t know if it’ll be finished before Xmas after all.I’ll snap it up the right way next time :)
I look forward to seeing it on the wall.
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:I am starting to think that EtOH may be the root of several issues.
Health scientists are starting to reveal some pretty alarming things about it.
A mate (Pancreatitis guy, in case you remember him) has just been told he’s never allowed to drink again and put on a medication that will make him feel sick if he does. Poik might know more. There’s other medications that can adjust your fluid balance, if you’ve got lots of swelling. Good luck with it, mate.
Thanks.
sarahs mum said:
ScoMo is melting down on abc 24.This parliament is not reality TV.
Looks like the encryption legislation is also not going to happen.
Have you received that CD sarahs mum, or not checked your mail yet this week?
kii said:
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:Are you talking about heart attacks?
Sensation of impending doom is a symptom that goes with a few things, of which heart problems are one.
I get that during panic attacks.
It’s a bloody interesting thing (to me). I got it when my ticker was having problems. I remember it as a gut feeling that was telling me, in a way I found powerful and persuasive, that I was in trouble and it was time to get help.
If you ever get it (anxiety attacks aside) it’s time to shut up and listen. It means you’re in serious trouble. Get help.
kii said:
Greetings and such.
Lovely autumnal weather. I pottered around the back porch and cleaned off the pavers. Did a few loads of washing.mr kii will be getting B12 shots apparently. He’s already bouncing around like Tigger on speed. I fear for my ongoing sanity.
It’s good that he’s recovered so much. Now you need to get sorted.
Bubblecar said:
Have you received that CD sarahs mum, or not checked your mail yet this week?
It was delivered to me last night mr Car. I haven’t tried to load it yet. But if it fails to load I will see if my brother in law can get it together when I am in Sydney.
I just got my plane tickets printed. So I am ahead for the day. :) A friend printed them out and she is bringing them up shortly with the unsold prints from the mini print show.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
ScoMo is melting down on abc 24.This parliament is not reality TV.
Looks like the encryption legislation is also not going to happen.
Ah. It will be passed. They are just having some shenanigans first.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:
kii said:
Greetings and such.
Lovely autumnal weather. I pottered around the back porch and cleaned off the pavers. Did a few loads of washing.mr kii will be getting B12 shots apparently. He’s already bouncing around like Tigger on speed. I fear for my ongoing sanity.
sorta spring here. rainy. cool.
It’s cool here too, summer was hot and sharp with a small storm and a failed cyclone, and very short.
I don’t think it’s over yet. It’s just a slight respite.
:-)~P
kii said:
Scared the bj out of me.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Have you received that CD sarahs mum, or not checked your mail yet this week?
It was delivered to me last night mr Car. I haven’t tried to load it yet. But if it fails to load I will see if my brother in law can get it together when I am in Sydney.
I just got my plane tickets printed. So I am ahead for the day. :) A friend printed them out and she is bringing them up shortly with the unsold prints from the mini print show.
okay. My dvd has said that it has found it. Do I drag it across to somewhere?
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Have you received that CD sarahs mum, or not checked your mail yet this week?
It was delivered to me last night mr Car. I haven’t tried to load it yet. But if it fails to load I will see if my brother in law can get it together when I am in Sydney.
I just got my plane tickets printed. So I am ahead for the day. :) A friend printed them out and she is bringing them up shortly with the unsold prints from the mini print show.
Goodo.
Rule 303 said:
btm said:
Rule 303 said:
Reading bout sensory perception: Sight, hearing, smell, touch, taste, temperature, level, up/down, pitch, body position etc… I found myself wondering whether there’s any others. Mood? Safety? Disease? Impending doom (this one’s real, actually), Speed? Acceleration? Colour combination? Image construction?
That’s what I meant by ‘body position’, but I understand it’s a little more than that.
the mind’s eye, the feel-see, that registers and monitors internal environment, self-aware consciousness if you like, evidenced some by the internal monologue in ones head. So yeah mood’s in that, and more.
so the mind’s eye is probably more extra sensory perception.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Have you received that CD sarahs mum, or not checked your mail yet this week?
It was delivered to me last night mr Car. I haven’t tried to load it yet. But if it fails to load I will see if my brother in law can get it together when I am in Sydney.
I just got my plane tickets printed. So I am ahead for the day. :) A friend printed them out and she is bringing them up shortly with the unsold prints from the mini print show.
okay. My dvd has said that it has found it. Do I drag it across to somewhere?
Yes, just copy to a folder somewhere. Then open it and click on Setup (the icon with the little computer).
Just read this on the page for singing duo ‘The War and Treaty’ ( https://www.thewarandtreaty.com/about/ ). Says a lot about modern America:
“Michael enlisted in the United States Army in 2003, two years after 9/11. “I didn’t know it was wartime,” he says. “People say, ‘How do you not know that?’ Well, in the neighborhood I grew up in, we weren’t patriotic. No one cared––that’s rich people’s news. Meanwhile, someone I know just got shot yesterday.””
transition said:
Rule 303 said:
btm said:That’s what I meant by ‘body position’, but I understand it’s a little more than that.
the mind’s eye, the feel-see, that registers and monitors internal environment, self-aware consciousness if you like, evidenced some by the internal monologue in ones head. So yeah mood’s in that, and more.
so the mind’s eye is probably more extra sensory perception.
don’t tell anyone I told you about extra sensory perception.
there are armies of skinnerians and other black box specialists out there.
Bubblecar said:
Progress snap, still a lot to do. Don’t know if it’ll be finished before Xmas after all.I’ll snap it up the right way next time :)
Looks great.
:)
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Progress snap, still a lot to do. Don’t know if it’ll be finished before Xmas after all.I’ll snap it up the right way next time :)
Looks great.
:)
Forest needs a lot of work before I continue downwards.
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Progress snap, still a lot to do. Don’t know if it’ll be finished before Xmas after all.I’ll snap it up the right way next time :)
Looks great.
:)
Forest needs a lot of work before I continue downwards.
And the moon.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Progress snap, still a lot to do. Don’t know if it’ll be finished before Xmas after all.I’ll snap it up the right way next time :)
Looks great.
:)
Looks good.
But I just couldn’t work that way. I would have to paint out the rough outlines first and then slowly go back over and fill in more and more details. Going from nothing to full detail in one step… my mind just can’t do that.
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Progress snap, still a lot to do. Don’t know if it’ll be finished before Xmas after all.I’ll snap it up the right way next time :)
Looks great.
:)
Forest needs a lot of work before I continue downwards.
nice, what is it, i’m having baroque sensation or whatever
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:Looks great.
:)
Forest needs a lot of work before I continue downwards.
And the moon.
What’s wrong with the moon?
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:Forest needs a lot of work before I continue downwards.
And the moon.
What’s wrong with the moon?
Is it a piece to sell or for yourself
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Progress snap, still a lot to do. Don’t know if it’ll be finished before Xmas after all.I’ll snap it up the right way next time :)
Looks great.
:)
Forest needs a lot of work before I continue downwards.
I love your row of singing-dancing trees. Very Gothic Burlesque.
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:Looks great.
:)
Forest needs a lot of work before I continue downwards.
nice, what is it, i’m having baroque sensation or whatever
Just one of my paintings of imagined moonlit worlds, inspired by transhumanist ideas and the liberation of the imagination that awaits our descendants.
Not much point talking about it further until it’s finished :)
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Progress snap, still a lot to do. Don’t know if it’ll be finished before Xmas after all.I’ll snap it up the right way next time :)
Looks great.
:)
I don’t know why it’s taking you so long. I’d use a roller and have it covered in red in bare minutes.
Cymek said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:And the moon.
What’s wrong with the moon?
Is it a piece to sell or for yourself
I don’t do paintings for sale these days. But I’ll upload some very good photos of it and other works to DeviantArt or suchlike.
Have to get a better quality camera.
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
Bubblecar said:Forest needs a lot of work before I continue downwards.
nice, what is it, i’m having baroque sensation or whatever
Just one of my paintings of imagined moonlit worlds, inspired by transhumanist ideas and the liberation of the imagination that awaits our descendants.
Not much point talking about it further until it’s finished :)
The red is the blood of the many who died to achieve the idea I assume or just not painted yet
Cymek said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:nice, what is it, i’m having baroque sensation or whatever
Just one of my paintings of imagined moonlit worlds, inspired by transhumanist ideas and the liberation of the imagination that awaits our descendants.
Not much point talking about it further until it’s finished :)
The red is the blood of the many who died to achieve the idea I assume or just not painted yet
It’s just my chosen ground colour for the primed paper, which influences the final look of the other colours to some extent. I was going to leave some red in a foreground pathway to emphasise the imaginary nature of the journey through the arch, but it’s now too grubby from fallen pigments from above :)
If I was doing this particular one again, I’d use a black-primed paper which would make life easier.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:Forest needs a lot of work before I continue downwards.
And the moon.
What’s wrong with the moon?
It’s only a paper moon?
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:And the moon.
What’s wrong with the moon?
It’s only a paper moon?
It’s a pastel moon. The only decision I’ve yet to make about the moon is whether to mellow it with more yellow. It needed the stark white to make it bright enough.
Have a fun trip, SM :)
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:It was delivered to me last night mr Car. I haven’t tried to load it yet. But if it fails to load I will see if my brother in law can get it together when I am in Sydney.
I just got my plane tickets printed. So I am ahead for the day. :) A friend printed them out and she is bringing them up shortly with the unsold prints from the mini print show.
okay. My dvd has said that it has found it. Do I drag it across to somewhere?
Yes, just copy to a folder somewhere. Then open it and click on Setup (the icon with the little computer).
Proceeding to set up…
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:okay. My dvd has said that it has found it. Do I drag it across to somewhere?
Yes, just copy to a folder somewhere. Then open it and click on Setup (the icon with the little computer).
Proceeding to set up…
Yay!!!! I have photoshop. Thank you muchly Mr Car.
:) xxxxx
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Yes, just copy to a folder somewhere. Then open it and click on Setup (the icon with the little computer).
Proceeding to set up…
Yay!!!! I have photoshop. Thank you muchly Mr Car.
:) xxxxx
:)
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:Proceeding to set up…
Yay!!!! I have photoshop. Thank you muchly Mr Car.
:) xxxxx
:)
I’ve had my unsold prints returned and my flight ticket delivered. I suppose I should start packing stuff.
Divine Angel said:
Have a fun trip, SM :)
I’ll try. I’m sure some bits will be good. Not looking forward to the heat. I don’t know what to pack. I have few choices for hot days.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:Yay!!!! I have photoshop. Thank you muchly Mr Car.
:) xxxxx
:)
I’ve had my unsold prints returned and my flight ticket delivered. I suppose I should start packing stuff.
Did you sell some though?
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said::)
I’ve had my unsold prints returned and my flight ticket delivered. I suppose I should start packing stuff.
Did you sell some though?
About 20 I think. The sales sheet is with the Treasurer atm. I’ll get back to you when it is finalised if you like.
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:I’ve had my unsold prints returned and my flight ticket delivered. I suppose I should start packing stuff.
Did you sell some though?
About 20 I think. The sales sheet is with the Treasurer atm. I’ll get back to you when it is finalised if you like.
20 = good.
:)
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:Did you sell some though?
About 20 I think. The sales sheet is with the Treasurer atm. I’ll get back to you when it is finalised if you like.
20 = good.
:)
I’m happy. It was a good year.
Michael V said:
kii said:
Greetings and such.
Lovely autumnal weather. I pottered around the back porch and cleaned off the pavers. Did a few loads of washing.mr kii will be getting B12 shots apparently. He’s already bouncing around like Tigger on speed. I fear for my ongoing sanity.
It’s good that he’s recovered so much. Now you need to get sorted.
It’s very encouraging. He sees the oncologist tomorrow for treatment options.
I just need to stop being a part time shut-in. Get out in the world. Plus I have some stronger antibiotics.
kii said:
Michael V said:
kii said:
Greetings and such.
Lovely autumnal weather. I pottered around the back porch and cleaned off the pavers. Did a few loads of washing.mr kii will be getting B12 shots apparently. He’s already bouncing around like Tigger on speed. I fear for my ongoing sanity.
It’s good that he’s recovered so much. Now you need to get sorted.
It’s very encouraging. He sees the oncologist tomorrow for treatment options.
I just need to stop being a part time shut-in. Get out in the world. Plus I have some stronger antibiotics.
Hey if I didn’t work I’d be a shut in most of the time
Michael V said:
kii said:
Scared the bj out of me.
The woman is Patricia something or other….she’s a hypnotist.
Which one is the woman?
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:I’ve had my unsold prints returned and my flight ticket delivered. I suppose I should start packing stuff.
Did you sell some though?
About 20 I think. The sales sheet is with the Treasurer atm. I’ll get back to you when it is finalised if you like.
Sold 20 of them? Way kewlies. That’s mega millions $$$$$$ :)
Cymek said:
kii said:
Michael V said:It’s good that he’s recovered so much. Now you need to get sorted.
It’s very encouraging. He sees the oncologist tomorrow for treatment options.
I just need to stop being a part time shut-in. Get out in the world. Plus I have some stronger antibiotics.
Hey if I didn’t work I’d be a shut in most of the time
I understand that. I knew this would happen once I quit BN :(
furious said:
- The woman is Patricia something or other….she’s a hypnotist.
Which one is the woman?
Which one do you want to be the woman?
Woodie said:
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:Did you sell some though?
About 20 I think. The sales sheet is with the Treasurer atm. I’ll get back to you when it is finalised if you like.
Sold 20 of them? Way kewlies. That’s mega millions $$$$$$ :)
They are mini prints. But it is an income boost.
furious said:
- The woman is Patricia something or other….she’s a hypnotist.
Which one is the woman?
A young Mrs Slocombe hopefully with a better behaved cat
sarahs mum said:
Woodie said:
sarahs mum said:About 20 I think. The sales sheet is with the Treasurer atm. I’ll get back to you when it is finalised if you like.
Sold 20 of them? Way kewlies. That’s mega millions $$$$$$ :)
They are mini prints. But it is an income boost.
Very neat :D
sarahs mum said:
Woodie said:
sarahs mum said:About 20 I think. The sales sheet is with the Treasurer atm. I’ll get back to you when it is finalised if you like.
Sold 20 of them? Way kewlies. That’s mega millions $$$$$$ :)
They are mini prints. But it is an income boost.
Mini mega millions $$$$$$ then. :)
I don’t want either of them to be one thing or another. I was just commenting on the fact that at first glance the thumb nailed sized picture did not appear to contain any biological women…
furious said:
- Which one do you want to be the woman?
I don’t want either of them to be one thing or another. I was just commenting on the fact that at first glance the thumb nailed sized picture did not appear to contain any biological women…
Like that women mask Arnie worn in Total Recall
furious said:
- Which one do you want to be the woman?
I don’t want either of them to be one thing or another. I was just commenting on the fact that at first glance the thumb nailed sized picture did not appear to contain any biological women…
Okay.
*talks to coffee.
“I’ve been missing you coffee.”
kii said:
Michael V said:
kii said:
Scared the bj out of me.
The woman is Patricia something or other….she’s a hypnotist.
A hypnotist? Doesn’t hypnotism involve getting the subject into a relaxed state?
Can’t see how anyone with that appearance could induce relaxation in anyone.
Ah good, first warm day here. First day that it’s been hot enough to wear shorts.
I prefer my nights under 20 degrees, though.

captain_spalding said:
kii said:
Michael V said:Scared the bj out of me.
The woman is Patricia something or other….she’s a hypnotist.
A hypnotist? Doesn’t hypnotism involve getting the subject into a relaxed state?
Can’t see how anyone with that appearance could induce relaxation in anyone.
She seems to have talons.
Anyway, hello Lunchtimers.
>>Upper House MP Bernie Finn said the campaign was “disgraceful” because it failed to properly communicate with voters.
He also lashed out at criticism from Labor about the lack of women in Liberal ranks.
“If the Labor Party and the Greens want to have more women in the Liberal Party, what they should have done is not defeated them, that would have been a very good thing if they hadn’t run against our women,” Mr Finn said.<<
From here:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-06/victorian-liberal-leadership-change-after-election-loss/10588046
Really?
buffy said:
>>Upper House MP Bernie Finn said the campaign was “disgraceful” because it failed to properly communicate with voters.
He also lashed out at criticism from Labor about the lack of women in Liberal ranks.
“If the Labor Party and the Greens want to have more women in the Liberal Party, what they should have done is not defeated them, that would have been a very good thing if they hadn’t run against our women,” Mr Finn said.<<
From here:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-06/victorian-liberal-leadership-change-after-election-loss/10588046
Really?
what
the
actual
merry
fuck
buffy said:
>>Upper House MP Bernie Finn said the campaign was “disgraceful” because it failed to properly communicate with voters.
He also lashed out at criticism from Labor about the lack of women in Liberal ranks.
“If the Labor Party and the Greens want to have more women in the Liberal Party, what they should have done is not defeated them, that would have been a very good thing if they hadn’t run against our women,” Mr Finn said.<<
From here:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-06/victorian-liberal-leadership-change-after-election-loss/10588046
Really?
It’s all Labor’s fault:)
dv said:
buffy said:>>Upper House MP Bernie Finn said the campaign was “disgraceful” because it failed to properly communicate with voters.
He also lashed out at criticism from Labor about the lack of women in Liberal ranks.
“If the Labor Party and the Greens want to have more women in the Liberal Party, what they should have done is not defeated them, that would have been a very good thing if they hadn’t run against our women,” Mr Finn said.<<
From here:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-06/victorian-liberal-leadership-change-after-election-loss/10588046
Really?
what
the
actual
merry
fuck
That’s a kind of logic
buffy said:
>>Upper House MP Bernie Finn said the campaign was “disgraceful” because it failed to properly communicate with voters.
He also lashed out at criticism from Labor about the lack of women in Liberal ranks.
“If the Labor Party and the Greens want to have more women in the Liberal Party, what they should have done is not defeated them, that would have been a very good thing if they hadn’t run against our women,” Mr Finn said.<<
From here:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-06/victorian-liberal-leadership-change-after-election-loss/10588046
Really?
Far out.
I mean I guess the other option would have been for the Libs to put women into safe seats.
jklol
party_pants said:
buffy said:>>Upper House MP Bernie Finn said the campaign was “disgraceful” because it failed to properly communicate with voters.
He also lashed out at criticism from Labor about the lack of women in Liberal ranks.
“If the Labor Party and the Greens want to have more women in the Liberal Party, what they should have done is not defeated them, that would have been a very good thing if they hadn’t run against our women,” Mr Finn said.<<
From here:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-06/victorian-liberal-leadership-change-after-election-loss/10588046
Really?
It’s all Labor’s fault:)
Thanks, Obama!
buffy said:
>>Upper House MP Bernie Finn said the campaign was “disgraceful” because it failed to properly communicate with voters.
He also lashed out at criticism from Labor about the lack of women in Liberal ranks.
“If the Labor Party and the Greens want to have more women in the Liberal Party, what they should have done is not defeated them, that would have been a very good thing if they hadn’t run against our women,” Mr Finn said.<<
From here:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-06/victorian-liberal-leadership-change-after-election-loss/10588046
Really?
That’s disgusting.
Michael V said:
buffy said:>>Upper House MP Bernie Finn said the campaign was “disgraceful” because it failed to properly communicate with voters.
He also lashed out at criticism from Labor about the lack of women in Liberal ranks.
“If the Labor Party and the Greens want to have more women in the Liberal Party, what they should have done is not defeated them, that would have been a very good thing if they hadn’t run against our women,” Mr Finn said.<<
From here:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-06/victorian-liberal-leadership-change-after-election-loss/10588046
Really?
That’s disgusting.
In the running for stupid comment of the year.
Just checked …
Among the Liberals’ 20 safest seats in Victoria, this year they ran 2 (numeric two) female candidates.
dv said:
Just checked …Among the Liberals’ 20 safest seats in Victoria, this year they ran 2 (numeric two) female candidates.
Maybe they were selected on merit not on race, gender, sexuality etc.
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Just checked …Among the Liberals’ 20 safest seats in Victoria, this year they ran 2 (numeric two) female candidates.
Maybe they were selected on merit not on race, gender, sexuality etc.
Given the state of the Victorian Libs, it seems that maybe is a no.
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Just checked …Among the Liberals’ 20 safest seats in Victoria, this year they ran 2 (numeric two) female candidates.
Maybe they were selected on merit not on race, gender, sexuality etc.
OTOH, those deciding what constitutes “merit” in this case are complete boofheads as well as unmitigated sexists.
In Perth News:
A Cockburn Ranger has shot a sheep near a train line today.
dv said:
In Perth News:A Cockburn Ranger has shot a sheep near a train line today.
I hope he didn’t just leave it there to rot.
dv said:
In Perth News:A Cockburn Ranger has shot a sheep near a train line today.
A Cockburn Ranger is a public servant working for the Cockburn City Council who deals with animals and so forth, and not as you might think someone who goes around inspecting dicks for friction lesions.
“Interesting that the ad includes two images of Australia as the target.” — Stephen Peake
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-06/queensland-police-commissioner-saddened-by-gun-billboard/10588976
dv said:
In Perth News:A Cockburn Ranger has shot a sheep near a train line today.
Jumbuck seems to be on the Endangered Words list.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
In Perth News:A Cockburn Ranger has shot a sheep near a train line today.
I hope he didn’t just leave it there to rot.
I’ll say, there’s roasts a-begging there.
dv said:
dv said:
In Perth News:A Cockburn Ranger has shot a sheep near a train line today.
A Cockburn Ranger is a public servant working for the Cockburn City Council who deals with animals and so forth, and not as you might think someone who goes around inspecting dicks for friction lesions.
PMSL
:)
:)
dv said:
dv said:
In Perth News:A Cockburn Ranger has shot a sheep near a train line today.
A Cockburn Ranger is a public servant working for the Cockburn City Council who deals with animals and so forth, and not as you might think someone who goes around inspecting dicks for friction lesions.
Nice try
dv said:
dv said:
In Perth News:A Cockburn Ranger has shot a sheep near a train line today.
A Cockburn Ranger is a public servant working for the Cockburn City Council who deals with animals and so forth, and not as you might think someone who goes around inspecting dicks for friction lesions.
LOL
Michael V said:
“Interesting that the ad includes two images of Australia as the target.” — Stephen Peake
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-06/queensland-police-commissioner-saddened-by-gun-billboard/10588976
I would be happy to not allow that sort of advertising.
Cigarettes at least kill you slowly.
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
“Interesting that the ad includes two images of Australia as the target.” — Stephen Peake
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-06/queensland-police-commissioner-saddened-by-gun-billboard/10588976
I would be happy to not allow that sort of advertising.
Cigarettes at least kill you slowly.
That’s a wrapped up handgun. Don’t you need a good reason to have one?
Michael V said:
dv said:
dv said:
In Perth News:A Cockburn Ranger has shot a sheep near a train line today.
A Cockburn Ranger is a public servant working for the Cockburn City Council who deals with animals and so forth, and not as you might think someone who goes around inspecting dicks for friction lesions.
PMSL
:)
:)
I remember when that shipment of Viagra fell of the truck in that suburb and the headline “Penis friction burns are up in the city of Cockburn”
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
In Perth News:A Cockburn Ranger has shot a sheep near a train line today.
Jumbuck seems to be on the Endangered Words list.
Thanks for mentioning this, as I now know that a) a jumbuck is specifically a ram and b) the etymology is unknown.
sarahs mum said:
That’s a wrapped up handgun. Don’t you need a good reason to have one?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micropenis
dv said:
In Perth News:A Cockburn Ranger has shot a sheep near a train line today.
Again?
I thought that was yesterday.
dv said:
sarahs mum said:That’s a wrapped up handgun. Don’t you need a good reason to have one?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micropenis
I used to have one (pistol, i mean).
I also had other reasons.
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
sarahs mum said:That’s a wrapped up handgun. Don’t you need a good reason to have one?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micropenis
I used to have one (pistol, i mean).
I also had other reasons.
Were ye a pirate captain protecting oneself from scurvy dogs
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
sarahs mum said:That’s a wrapped up handgun. Don’t you need a good reason to have one?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micropenis
I used to have one (pistol, i mean).
I also had other reasons.
I knew a vet that one and a rifle. Sometimes it is good to have that sort of choice. But it isn’t christmas stocking fare.
Cymek said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micropenis
I used to have one (pistol, i mean).
I also had other reasons.
Were ye a pirate captain protecting oneself from scurvy dogs
I were a competing member of a pistol club.
Anyway, pirate captains were almost always elected to the job by the ship’s company.
If they thought the captain was doing a dud job, they’d just sack him, and elect a new one.
Sort of reminds you of the Liberal Party, doesn’t it?
Just prepping for the festive season.
kii said:
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Just prepping for the festive season.
I remember those plastic santa things like the one on that wall.
sarahs mum said:
kii said:
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Just prepping for the festive season.
I remember those plastic santa things like the one on that wall.
The little art gallery around the corner has a deflated inflatable Santa outside the door. Looks a bit like a dumped body.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
kii said:
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Just prepping for the festive season.
I remember those plastic santa things like the one on that wall.
The little art gallery around the corner has a deflated inflatable Santa outside the door. Looks a bit like a dumped body.
There is a house down the road with a gang of inflatables in the front yard. *Waits for gale force winds.

Bubblecar said:
That’s disturbing.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2018/dec/06/government-morrison-nauru-energy-encryption-politics-live-shorten-labor-liberal
sarahs mum said:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2018/dec/06/government-morrison-nauru-energy-encryption-politics-live-shorten-labor-liberal
“I’LL FIGHT THEM!” On the last sitting day of the year, suspending parliament is on the cards. This is the extraordinary press conference from Scott Morrison in which he called Bill Shorten “a clear and present threat to Australia’s safety”, and vowed to stop the offshore detention medical evacuation bill with “whatever tool or tactic I have available to me”. That could include suspending parliament today before it comes to a vote. https://gu.com/p/a5b45/au
•
It was revealed this morning that the Coalition was attempting several delay tactics to derail a vote today on the Nauru/Manus medical evacuation bill, including arranging timetables to make sure any motion from the Senate would happen too late for the House to pass it, ensuring a vote can’t happen today because the government are all but guaranteed of losing that vote
•
If the vote went ahead, and the government lost, it would be the first time in at least 80 years that a sitting government lost a legislative battle in the House. When that last happened, the PM at the time took it as a de facto loss of confidence, called an election the next day, and lost. Scott Morrison appears determined not to let that happen under any circumstances: “I will never move from where I stand on this issue”.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2018/dec/06/government-morrison-nauru-energy-encryption-politics-live-shorten-labor-liberal
“I’LL FIGHT THEM!” On the last sitting day of the year, suspending parliament is on the cards. This is the extraordinary press conference from Scott Morrison in which he called Bill Shorten “a clear and present threat to Australia’s safety”, and vowed to stop the offshore detention medical evacuation bill with “whatever tool or tactic I have available to me”. That could include suspending parliament today before it comes to a vote. https://gu.com/p/a5b45/au
•
It was revealed this morning that the Coalition was attempting several delay tactics to derail a vote today on the Nauru/Manus medical evacuation bill, including arranging timetables to make sure any motion from the Senate would happen too late for the House to pass it, ensuring a vote can’t happen today because the government are all but guaranteed of losing that vote
•
If the vote went ahead, and the government lost, it would be the first time in at least 80 years that a sitting government lost a legislative battle in the House. When that last happened, the PM at the time took it as a de facto loss of confidence, called an election the next day, and lost. Scott Morrison appears determined not to let that happen under any circumstances: “I will never move from where I stand on this issue”.
Can they give the refugees a make over so they look like wealthy white Liberals supporters and get them off that island “I’m a White Wealthy Liberal, Get Me Out Of Here”
It’s Nooooooooo or Neville.
TTPOH. Eye mon nollidees. :)
sarahs mum said:
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It’s Nooooooooo or Neville.
Get a haircut ya long haired lout!
Woodie said:
sarahs mum said:
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It’s Nooooooooo or Neville.
Get a haircut ya long haired lout!
:)
Australian researchers discover unique cancer biomarker
https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2018-12-05/researchers-discover-unique-cancer-biomarker/10581914
I’m putting together a little model of this. I actually abandoned it years ago but I’ll resume work on it tomorrow some time.
Trevithick – The World’s First Locomotive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K40XrR67fas

sarahs mum said:
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It’s Nooooooooo or Neville.
Looks like that one wants to climb out of the picture and join the party.
Bubblecar said:
I’m putting together a little model of this. I actually abandoned it years ago but I’ll resume work on it tomorrow some time.Trevithick – The World’s First Locomotive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K40XrR67fas
Jeez there’s a lot of first locomotives.
I’m sure GeoffD would have been proud of this one.
Bubblecar said:
I’m putting together a little model of this. I actually abandoned it years ago but I’ll resume work on it tomorrow some time.Trevithick – The World’s First Locomotive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K40XrR67fas
I like that one. Very steam punk.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
I’m putting together a little model of this. I actually abandoned it years ago but I’ll resume work on it tomorrow some time.Trevithick – The World’s First Locomotive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K40XrR67fas
I like that one. Very steam punk.
Yeah, modern OH&S would have a fit. All those exposed moving parts.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
I’m putting together a little model of this. I actually abandoned it years ago but I’ll resume work on it tomorrow some time.Trevithick – The World’s First Locomotive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K40XrR67fas
I like that one. Very steam punk.
Yeah, modern OH&S would have a fit. All those exposed moving parts.
Like the acid bath on my verandah? The white spirit and turps and bitumen in my living room? No OH & S here.
Bubblecar said:
I’m putting together a little model of this. I actually abandoned it years ago but I’ll resume work on it tomorrow some time.Trevithick – The World’s First Locomotive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K40XrR67fas
Where’s the TOOTer? If it’s a train, it’s gotta be able to go TOOT!
Bloody government.
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:I like that one. Very steam punk.
Yeah, modern OH&S would have a fit. All those exposed moving parts.
Like the acid bath on my verandah? The white spirit and turps and bitumen in my living room? No OH & S here.
Or the lack of radiation shielding on the landy’s ZPE reactor
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
I’m putting together a little model of this. I actually abandoned it years ago but I’ll resume work on it tomorrow some time.Trevithick – The World’s First Locomotive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K40XrR67fas
I like that one. Very steam punk.
You get the feeling that they still had some cogs and gears in the parts box, but just couldn’t find anywhere for them to go.
2m ago 05:39
This will be the press conference where the government explains how it is not its fault the encryption laws it said were desperately needed were not passed because Labor forced it to adjourn the House at 4.30pm.
To be clear, the government has the power to extend the sitting. As it does, every day.
It is choosing not to, because it doesn’t want to lose a legislative vote.
sarahs mum said:
Bloody government.
What haven’t they done this time?
Bubblecar said:
I’m putting together a little model of this. I actually abandoned it years ago but I’ll resume work on it tomorrow some time.Trevithick – The World’s First Locomotive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K40XrR67fas
Inspired by the clock at Hogwarts no doubt.

Woodie said:
sarahs mum said:
Bloody government.What haven’t they done this time?
Filibustered.
sarahs mum said:
2m ago 05:39This will be the press conference where the government explains how it is not its fault the encryption laws it said were desperately needed were not passed because Labor forced it to adjourn the House at 4.30pm.
To be clear, the government has the power to extend the sitting. As it does, every day.
It is choosing not to, because it doesn’t want to lose a legislative vote.
I went under ground and communicated with encrypted emails and message to my followers after Omegafour was hacked by the NSA, don’t wnt this law passed
And Henry Jones Art Hotel just rang to say they have sold a print. :)
sarahs mum said:
And Henry Jones Art Hotel just rang to say they have sold a print. :)
So much better than a phone call from India.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
And Henry Jones Art Hotel just rang to say they have sold a print. :)
So much better than a phone call from India.
They ring after dark too, the bounders.
sarahs mum said:
And Henry Jones Art Hotel just rang to say they have sold a print. :)
Bloomin’ marvelous!
sarahs mum said:
And Henry Jones Art Hotel just rang to say they have sold a print. :)
Don’t forget the Holiday Forum and the back streets of Naples.
>I went under ground and communicated with encrypted emails and message to my followers after Omegafour was hacked by the NSA, don’t wnt this law passed
I wouldn’t want to be that interesting
slides a glass of mundane across
try that
In the footage, seen in many places, including this footage from CNN’s coverage, the president is seen not participating in hymns or the Apostles’ Creed prayer, despite the words being printed in the program he was holding.
Trump refuses to recite Apostles’ Creed or sing hymns at Bush funeral
————-
For the first time ever, the US has a president who is not a churchgoing Christian. I think this is “checkmate, atheists”.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
And Henry Jones Art Hotel just rang to say they have sold a print. :)
Don’t forget the Holiday Forum and the back streets of Naples.
My old art teacher used to play that one over and over and over. How apt.
dv said:
In the footage, seen in many places, including this footage from CNN’s coverage, the president is seen not participating in hymns or the Apostles’ Creed prayer, despite the words being printed in the program he was holding.Trump refuses to recite Apostles’ Creed or sing hymns at Bush funeral
————-
For the first time ever, the US has a president who is not a churchgoing Christian. I think this is “checkmate, atheists”.
Heheh, probably confusing outrage season ticket holders, yeah…but no…but yeah…but no…but yeah…but no
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
And Henry Jones Art Hotel just rang to say they have sold a print. :)
So much better than a phone call from India.
:)
AwesomeO said:
dv said:
In the footage, seen in many places, including this footage from CNN’s coverage, the president is seen not participating in hymns or the Apostles’ Creed prayer, despite the words being printed in the program he was holding.Trump refuses to recite Apostles’ Creed or sing hymns at Bush funeral
————-
For the first time ever, the US has a president who is not a churchgoing Christian. I think this is “checkmate, atheists”.
Heheh, probably confusing outrage season ticket holders, yeah…but no…but yeah…but no…but yeah…but no
There’s something in it for everyone.
sarahs mum said:
2m ago 05:39This will be the press conference where the government explains how it is not its fault the encryption laws it said were desperately needed were not passed because Labor forced it to adjourn the House at 4.30pm.
To be clear, the government has the power to extend the sitting. As it does, every day.
It is choosing not to, because it doesn’t want to lose a legislative vote.
Bloody hell, who knew this governing stuff could be so hard? Time for a well earned holiday!
Meanwhile, they have given a 70 million dollar contract for Centrelink doings to this mob-
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-06/centrelink-contractor-concentrix-cut-thousands-off-welfare-in-uk/10586274?section=business
ruby said:
sarahs mum said:
And Henry Jones Art Hotel just rang to say they have sold a print. :)
Bloomin’ marvelous!
The curator (who rang to tell me of the sale) admitted to buying two of my prints at the mini print sale.
I found this amusing
ruby said:
sarahs mum said:2m ago 05:39This will be the press conference where the government explains how it is not its fault the encryption laws it said were desperately needed were not passed because Labor forced it to adjourn the House at 4.30pm.
To be clear, the government has the power to extend the sitting. As it does, every day.
It is choosing not to, because it doesn’t want to lose a legislative vote.
Bloody hell, who knew this governing stuff could be so hard? Time for a well earned holiday!
Meanwhile, they have given a 70 million dollar contract for Centrelink doings to this mob-
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-06/centrelink-contractor-concentrix-cut-thousands-off-welfare-in-uk/10586274?section=business
They don’t like us. Any of us. They are awful people.
larry dip
dv said:
In the footage, seen in many places, including this footage from CNN’s coverage, the president is seen not participating in hymns or the Apostles’ Creed prayer, despite the words being printed in the program he was holding.Trump refuses to recite Apostles’ Creed or sing hymns at Bush funeral
————-
For the first time ever, the US has a president who is not a churchgoing Christian. I think this is “checkmate, atheists”.
Fair enough
transition said:
larry dip
:) good work Larry.
“He that would keep a secret must keep it secret that he hath a secret to keep.”
Appleby
dv said:
In the footage, seen in many places, including this footage from CNN’s coverage, the president is seen not participating in hymns or the Apostles’ Creed prayer, despite the words being printed in the program he was holding.Trump refuses to recite Apostles’ Creed or sing hymns at Bush funeral
————-
For the first time ever, the US has a president who is not a churchgoing Christian. I think this is “checkmate, atheists”.
I think he delegates his religious devotion duties to an underling.
sarahs mum said:
ruby said:
sarahs mum said:2m ago 05:39This will be the press conference where the government explains how it is not its fault the encryption laws it said were desperately needed were not passed because Labor forced it to adjourn the House at 4.30pm.
To be clear, the government has the power to extend the sitting. As it does, every day.
It is choosing not to, because it doesn’t want to lose a legislative vote.
Bloody hell, who knew this governing stuff could be so hard? Time for a well earned holiday!
Meanwhile, they have given a 70 million dollar contract for Centrelink doings to this mob-
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-06/centrelink-contractor-concentrix-cut-thousands-off-welfare-in-uk/10586274?section=businessThey don’t like us. Any of us. They are awful people.
nah
Well fancy that. It’s pink gin o’clock.
sarahs mum said:
ruby said:
sarahs mum said:2m ago 05:39This will be the press conference where the government explains how it is not its fault the encryption laws it said were desperately needed were not passed because Labor forced it to adjourn the House at 4.30pm.
To be clear, the government has the power to extend the sitting. As it does, every day.
It is choosing not to, because it doesn’t want to lose a legislative vote.
Bloody hell, who knew this governing stuff could be so hard? Time for a well earned holiday!
Meanwhile, they have given a 70 million dollar contract for Centrelink doings to this mob-
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-06/centrelink-contractor-concentrix-cut-thousands-off-welfare-in-uk/10586274?section=businessThey don’t like us. Any of us. They are awful people.
That’s not true, sm. There are some people they like.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-06/developer-issues-legal-threat-to-minister-over-protected-wetland/10581734
sarahs mum said:
Well fancy that. It’s pink gin o’clock.
coffee o’clock here
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
Well fancy that. It’s pink gin o’clock.
coffee o’clock here
It is hot enough here to gin. And I have an excuse to celebrate.
Sarah just posted on Facebook…“It’s 32 degrees and this idiot was determined to wear his puffy Patagonia jacket, backwards of course”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-06/centrelink-contractor-concentrix-cut-thousands-off-welfare-in-uk/10586274?section=business
terrorists comes to mind
can’t have too much money going into the system that way, competing with the hard earned money, competing with capitalism, diluting it, polluting it.
sarahs mum said:
Well fancy that. It’s pink gin o’clock.
Gin sounds a good idea. Might get some next week when I’m off the wagon.
sarahs mum said:
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
Well fancy that. It’s pink gin o’clock.
coffee o’clock here
It is hot enough here to gin. And I have an excuse to celebrate.
Sarah just posted on Facebook…“It’s 32 degrees and this idiot was determined to wear his puffy Patagonia jacket, backwards of course”
Matches the funny-looking kilt.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
transition said:coffee o’clock here
It is hot enough here to gin. And I have an excuse to celebrate.
Sarah just posted on Facebook…“It’s 32 degrees and this idiot was determined to wear his puffy Patagonia jacket, backwards of course”
Matches the funny-looking kilt.
tartan washable nappy.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Well fancy that. It’s pink gin o’clock.
Gin sounds a good idea. Might get some next week when I’m off the wagon.
Didn’t know you drank
Zarkov said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Well fancy that. It’s pink gin o’clock.
Gin sounds a good idea. Might get some next week when I’m off the wagon.
Didn’t know you drank
Just a sip now and then.
Air conditioning’s working well in the living room and kitchen. Must remember to turn it off tonight though. I forgot last night and it was going all night when not needed.
Bubblecar said:
Air conditioning’s working well in the living room and kitchen. Must remember to turn it off tonight though. I forgot last night and it was going all night when not needed.
And exy as well.
AwesomeO said:
Bubblecar said:
Air conditioning’s working well in the living room and kitchen. Must remember to turn it off tonight though. I forgot last night and it was going all night when not needed.
And exy as well.
It will be interesting to see how my summer bill compares with the winter one.
Been playing this fellow in the cool living room.
I think blue and silver tinsel is a pleasing combination.
party_pants said:
I think blue and silver tinsel is a pleasing combination.
Been putting up decorations?
Bubblecar said:
Been playing this fellow in the cool living room.
:)
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
I think blue and silver tinsel is a pleasing combination.
Been putting up decorations?
Just a small tree.
Peak Warming Man said:
“He that would keep a secret must keep it secret that he hath a secret to keep.”Appleby
Bubblecar said:
Been playing this fellow in the cool living room.
Fan of the monarchy I see
Silverside, cabbage and boiled potatoes for tea.
Peak Warming Man said:
Silverside, cabbage and boiled potatoes for tea.
Too hot for that sort of meal here.
Peak Warming Man said:
Silverside, cabbage and boiled potatoes for tea.
…then back to the shearing…
Peak Warming Man said:
Silverside, cabbage and boiled potatoes for tea.
That’s a good traditional combination. Serve with mustard.
Going to be an egg & anchovy salad this end.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Silverside, cabbage and boiled potatoes for tea.
That’s a good traditional combination. Serve with mustard.
Going to be an egg & anchovy salad this end.
I made a delicious roll for lunch the other day. I had some leftover boiled eggs, chopped up, some raw onion, salad dressing on a fresh roll. Very simple but a nice combination.
Large bucket of KFC whilst sitting in my Y-fronts watching tele
Zarkov said:
Large bucket of KFC whilst sitting in my Y-fronts watching tele
Such bliss wiping greasy sticky hands all over myself, Mrs Zarkov finds its sexy
gin no.2.
sarahs mum said:
gin no.2.
Chicken piece number 12
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
That’s disturbing.
That looks like one of those photos of corpses of children.
According to the ads tonight is the new series of Vikings. Heard that before.
Fool me once, shame on me, fool me, you can’t get fooled again.
AwesomeO said:
According to the ads tonight is the new series of Vikings. Heard that before.Fool me once, shame on me, fool me, you can’t get fooled again.
No it should be about right…this time.
party_pants said:
I think blue and silver tinsel is a pleasing combination.
:)
poikilotherm said:
AwesomeO said:
According to the ads tonight is the new series of Vikings. Heard that before.Fool me once, shame on me, fool me, you can’t get fooled again.
No it should be about right…this time.
It’s the continuation of season 5, aired on the 29th Nov in the states.
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
That’s disturbing.
That looks like one of those photos of corpses of children.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-36389581
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
That’s disturbing.
That looks like one of those photos of corpses of children.
Shouldn’t think so, it’s from the 1950s. And the girl looks disgusted, not dead.
poikilotherm said:
poikilotherm said:
AwesomeO said:
According to the ads tonight is the new series of Vikings. Heard that before.Fool me once, shame on me, fool me, you can’t get fooled again.
No it should be about right…this time.
It’s the continuation of season 5, aired on the 29th Nov in the states.
Cheers. Last time it left off, the boneless was coming into his own as a tactician and Flokis Greenland? outpost was falling apart.
AwesomeO said:
poikilotherm said:
poikilotherm said:No it should be about right…this time.
It’s the continuation of season 5, aired on the 29th Nov in the states.
Cheers. Last time it left off, the boneless was coming into his own as a tactician and Flokis Greenland? outpost was falling apart.
Yea iirc that’s it, and there’s a doings with categut (whatever) the blonde one and ironside vs boneless’n‘allies.
poikilotherm said:
AwesomeO said:
poikilotherm said:It’s the continuation of season 5, aired on the 29th Nov in the states.
Cheers. Last time it left off, the boneless was coming into his own as a tactician and Flokis Greenland? outpost was falling apart.
Yea iirc that’s it, and there’s a doings with categut (whatever) the blonde one and ironside vs boneless’n‘allies.
Whohoo happy camper here then.
Still melting.
https://sydneylivingmuseums.com.au/stories/street-snapshot-craze
Why don’t we just take over Nauru. Make them all Aussie citizens and let them move to western Sydney, sack their government and close the refugee camps. We could declare the place a nature reserve apart from a weather station and a small military base.
party_pants said:
Why don’t we just take over Nauru. Make them all Aussie citizens and let them move to western Sydney, sack their government and close the refugee camps. We could declare the place a nature reserve apart from a weather station and a small military base.
Part of the main reason for offshore detention, then later, Labor excising the mainland from the migration zone was to remove some legal advantages.
http://explosm.net/comics/3004/
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:
Why don’t we just take over Nauru. Make them all Aussie citizens and let them move to western Sydney, sack their government and close the refugee camps. We could declare the place a nature reserve apart from a weather station and a small military base.
Part of the main reason for offshore detention, then later, Labor excising the mainland from the migration zone was to remove some legal advantages.
Nobody was landing on Nauru to claim asylum. We could set u a proper refugee processing centre somewhere else, without needing to change the migration zones and all that. Nauru just seems so remote and so lacking in medical facilities, and doing everything at arms length through the government of Nauru seems to make the situation worse because they are so incompetent. Close Nauru and set up a proper refugee centre somewhere else. If the refugee centre is all that is propping up the local economy then we might as well just let that close down too.
enator Nick McKim
1 min ·
While it was hugely disappointing to see stalling tactics from the Liberals, One Nation and Cory Bernardi, the Bill to get better medical care for asylum seekers has passed the Senate. It’ll be back on the agenda in the House of Representatives in the new year. We can still win this!
sarahs mum said:
enator Nick McKim
1 min ·While it was hugely disappointing to see stalling tactics from the Liberals, One Nation and Cory Bernardi, the Bill to get better medical care for asylum seekers has passed the Senate. It’ll be back on the agenda in the House of Representatives in the new year. We can still win this!
The bill is only about evacuating the mentally and physically for treatment. But I read yesterday one doctor saying she hadn’t talked to a woman that hadn’t been raped.
We are scum.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-06/american-teachers-in-australian-classrooms-during-the-1970s/10589850
I had one of the American teachers at high school. Linda Sprague if I remember correctly. She taught English. And she got us doing square dancing in a before school class. She was a great teacher.
sarahs mum said:
enator Nick McKim
1 min ·While it was hugely disappointing to see stalling tactics from the Liberals, One Nation and Cory Bernardi, the Bill to get better medical care for asylum seekers has passed the Senate. It’ll be back on the agenda in the House of Representatives in the new year. We can still win this!
Really shit they managed to extend parliament time to pass the stupid encryption bill instead. That bill needed to get knocked back.
Looks like I’m voting independents for the Senate at the next election and both major parties last.
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-06/american-teachers-in-australian-classrooms-during-the-1970s/10589850
I had one of the American teachers at high school. Linda Sprague if I remember correctly. She taught English. And she got us doing square dancing in a before school class. She was a great teacher.
Miss Mahony, Canadian, Music. Form 2, so 1975.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
enator Nick McKim
1 min ·While it was hugely disappointing to see stalling tactics from the Liberals, One Nation and Cory Bernardi, the Bill to get better medical care for asylum seekers has passed the Senate. It’ll be back on the agenda in the House of Representatives in the new year. We can still win this!
Really shit they managed to extend parliament time to pass the stupid encryption bill instead. That bill needed to get knocked back.
Looks like I’m voting independents for the Senate at the next election and both major parties last.
I blame professional politicians on both sides. Independents with life experience who come to it later in life are the ideal. Ricky Muir had a dodgy narrow platform, was preference whispered in, early interviews were shockers along with (what will be increasingly common for younger politicans) dopy YouTube and Facebook videos, but he turned out to be a decent, thoughtfully pragmatic representative.
tap tap
It’s dead Jim
Bogsnorkler said:
tap tap
Tuna bake, steamed veges, fresh salad and blah. Glass of tap water. Low fat ice cream.
party_pants said:
Nobody was landing on Nauru to claim asylum. We could set u a proper refugee processing centre somewhere else, without needing to change the migration zones and all that. Nauru just seems so remote and so lacking in medical facilities, and doing everything at arms length through the government of Nauru seems to make the situation worse because they are so incompetent. Close Nauru and set up a proper refugee centre somewhere else. If the refugee centre is all that is propping up the local economy then we might as well just let that close down too.
And then what? The country is completely broke, isn’t it? What would happen if we just walked away from 13,000 Nauruans, who incidentally have something close to 100% Diabetes rate.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
enator Nick McKim
1 min ·While it was hugely disappointing to see stalling tactics from the Liberals, One Nation and Cory Bernardi, the Bill to get better medical care for asylum seekers has passed the Senate. It’ll be back on the agenda in the House of Representatives in the new year. We can still win this!
The bill is only about evacuating the mentally and physically for treatment. But I read yesterday one doctor saying she hadn’t talked to a woman that hadn’t been raped.
We are scum.
ScoMo, riding the bomb down.
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:Nobody was landing on Nauru to claim asylum. We could set u a proper refugee processing centre somewhere else, without needing to change the migration zones and all that. Nauru just seems so remote and so lacking in medical facilities, and doing everything at arms length through the government of Nauru seems to make the situation worse because they are so incompetent. Close Nauru and set up a proper refugee centre somewhere else. If the refugee centre is all that is propping up the local economy then we might as well just let that close down too.
And then what? The country is completely broke, isn’t it? What would happen if we just walked away from 13,000 Nauruans, who incidentally have something close to 100% Diabetes rate.
We give them Australian citizenship and move them to Sydney or Melbourne.. or Canberra. There’s not many of them.
Tonight, we will be drinking Sol beer and eating tongue sausage
03/12/2018 “Me and Xi have agreed on a beautiful trade deal, the best, some say the most perfectly formed trade deal ever”. Dow up 400.
04/12/2018 “JKLOL” Dow down 800
If the President were some kind of shady or disreputable character, you’d think that he was deliberately making the stock market bounce so that is in-the-loop friends and relatives could make money off its vicissitudes.
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:Nobody was landing on Nauru to claim asylum. We could set u a proper refugee processing centre somewhere else, without needing to change the migration zones and all that. Nauru just seems so remote and so lacking in medical facilities, and doing everything at arms length through the government of Nauru seems to make the situation worse because they are so incompetent. Close Nauru and set up a proper refugee centre somewhere else. If the refugee centre is all that is propping up the local economy then we might as well just let that close down too.
And then what? The country is completely broke, isn’t it? What would happen if we just walked away from 13,000 Nauruans, who incidentally have something close to 100% Diabetes rate.
We give them Australian citizenship and move them to Sydney or Melbourne.. or Canberra. There’s not many of them.
(not actually 100%, really, but it was 40% 25 years ago, so could easily be 60% now)
Giving them citizenship and bringing them here would be very expensive and dangerous, and a political shit-storm, I think. They might have to end up selling whatever they’ve got to China, or something…
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:And then what? The country is completely broke, isn’t it? What would happen if we just walked away from 13,000 Nauruans, who incidentally have something close to 100% Diabetes rate.
We give them Australian citizenship and move them to Sydney or Melbourne.. or Canberra. There’s not many of them.
(not actually 100%, really, but it was 40% 25 years ago, so could easily be 60% now)
Giving them citizenship and bringing them here would be very expensive and dangerous, and a political shit-storm, I think. They might have to end up selling whatever they’ve got to China, or something…
In the fair dinkum department I think that Australia and NZ will end up accepting most of the population of low lying Pacific nations over the coming decades.
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:And then what? The country is completely broke, isn’t it? What would happen if we just walked away from 13,000 Nauruans, who incidentally have something close to 100% Diabetes rate.
We give them Australian citizenship and move them to Sydney or Melbourne.. or Canberra. There’s not many of them.
(not actually 100%, really, but it was 40% 25 years ago, so could easily be 60% now)
Giving them citizenship and bringing them here would be very expensive and dangerous, and a political shit-storm, I think. They might have to end up selling whatever they’ve got to China, or something…
Plenty of large retailers could use some coolies… farmers too no doubt.
The history of Nauru is actually a bit sad and not a shining example of how to manage a colony.
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:And then what? The country is completely broke, isn’t it? What would happen if we just walked away from 13,000 Nauruans, who incidentally have something close to 100% Diabetes rate.
We give them Australian citizenship and move them to Sydney or Melbourne.. or Canberra. There’s not many of them.
(not actually 100%, really, but it was 40% 25 years ago, so could easily be 60% now)
Giving them citizenship and bringing them here would be very expensive and dangerous, and a political shit-storm, I think. They might have to end up selling whatever they’ve got to China, or something…
We don’t want them selling Nauru to China if we pull the refugee centre out. We’d need to give them some better option like full Australian citizenship. The numbers are not all that much, only about 10-15,000. We could easily accommodate them within the existing migration intake.
dv said:
The history of Nauru is actually a bit sad and not a shining example of how to manage a colony.
Now they have mined out all the phosphate the island is a bit of a wasteland.
dv said:
The history of Nauru is actually a bit sad and not a shining example of how to manage a colony.
Yeah, hmmm… Dunno if they’ve ever been a colony.
dv said:
Rule 303 said:(not actually 100%, really, but it was 40% 25 years ago, so could easily be 60% now)Giving them citizenship and bringing them here would be very expensive and dangerous, and a political shit-storm, I think. They might have to end up selling whatever they’ve got to China, or something…
In the fair dinkum department I think that Australia and NZ will end up accepting most of the population of low lying Pacific nations over the coming decades.
Yep. Those that have been dragged into the cash economy at a very severe disadvantage.
dv said:
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:We give them Australian citizenship and move them to Sydney or Melbourne.. or Canberra. There’s not many of them.
(not actually 100%, really, but it was 40% 25 years ago, so could easily be 60% now)
Giving them citizenship and bringing them here would be very expensive and dangerous, and a political shit-storm, I think. They might have to end up selling whatever they’ve got to China, or something…
In the fair dinkum department I think that Australia and NZ will end up accepting most of the population of low lying Pacific nations over the coming decades.
I wonder if there might not be a trend towards de-independence for small, broke nations.
party_pants said:
dv said:
Rule 303 said:(not actually 100%, really, but it was 40% 25 years ago, so could easily be 60% now)
Giving them citizenship and bringing them here would be very expensive and dangerous, and a political shit-storm, I think. They might have to end up selling whatever they’ve got to China, or something…
In the fair dinkum department I think that Australia and NZ will end up accepting most of the population of low lying Pacific nations over the coming decades.
I wonder if there might not be a trend towards de-independence for small, broke nations.
Depending on where they are located or what resources they have they could call China. If however you have no resources, not strategically located and have no money it’s a bit more problematic.
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:
dv said:In the fair dinkum department I think that Australia and NZ will end up accepting most of the population of low lying Pacific nations over the coming decades.
I wonder if there might not be a trend towards de-independence for small, broke nations.
Depending on where they are located or what resources they have they could call China. If however you have no resources, not strategically located and have no money it’s a bit more problematic.
Most of the South Pacific nations have fuck all except nice beaches and coconuts. Maybe some chance of fishing if Japan/Taiwan/China have not already fished it out.
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:I wonder if there might not be a trend towards de-independence for small, broke nations.
Depending on where they are located or what resources they have they could call China. If however you have no resources, not strategically located and have no money it’s a bit more problematic.
Most of the South Pacific nations have fuck all except nice beaches and coconuts. Maybe some chance of fishing if Japan/Taiwan/China have not already fished it out.
Always a possibility of offering airfields, but yeah, without something you are pretty well stuck. Then again, there is value in nice beaches.
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:Depending on where they are located or what resources they have they could call China. If however you have no resources, not strategically located and have no money it’s a bit more problematic.
Most of the South Pacific nations have fuck all except nice beaches and coconuts. Maybe some chance of fishing if Japan/Taiwan/China have not already fished it out.
Always a possibility of offering airfields, but yeah, without something you are pretty well stuck. Then again, there is value in nice beaches.
There’s always the drug / money / sex / crime industries.
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:Depending on where they are located or what resources they have they could call China. If however you have no resources, not strategically located and have no money it’s a bit more problematic.
Most of the South Pacific nations have fuck all except nice beaches and coconuts. Maybe some chance of fishing if Japan/Taiwan/China have not already fished it out.
Always a possibility of offering airfields, but yeah, without something you are pretty well stuck. Then again, there is value in nice beaches.
Military or civil airports? Most airlines have modern Boeing or Airbus craft that can do trans-pacific non-stop, Boeing 777 or 787, Airbus A380, A350 etc. Not much business in offering fuel stops.
Perhaps there might be some future in managed fish farming for high value fish like Tuna if they have some suitable sheltered bays. But these places are normally also subject to tropical cyclones which could potentially destroy any carefully built up industry over time.
There’s always tourism I guess, and some westerners who want to live in a paradise away from it all. But I doubt even Australia and New Zealand combined have enough drunk bogans to keep every South Pacific nation afloat economically.
Did we know Billy Bragg’s in town?
Currently playing a little gig in central Vic – Sold out six months ago.
Rule 303 said:
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:Most of the South Pacific nations have fuck all except nice beaches and coconuts. Maybe some chance of fishing if Japan/Taiwan/China have not already fished it out.
Always a possibility of offering airfields, but yeah, without something you are pretty well stuck. Then again, there is value in nice beaches.
There’s always the drug / money / sex / crime industries.
as long as they stay afloat.
Rule 303 said:
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:Most of the South Pacific nations have fuck all except nice beaches and coconuts. Maybe some chance of fishing if Japan/Taiwan/China have not already fished it out.
Always a possibility of offering airfields, but yeah, without something you are pretty well stuck. Then again, there is value in nice beaches.
There’s always the drug / money / sex / crime industries.
Seems like they have all toyed with the idea of becoming tax havens, until the donor country aid funding were on the verge of being withdrawn.
Rule 303 said:
Did we know Billy Bragg’s in town?Currently playing a little gig in central Vic – Sold out six months ago.
Didn’t see any publicity.
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
The history of Nauru is actually a bit sad and not a shining example of how to manage a colony.
Yeah, hmmm… Dunno if they’ve ever been a colony.
Okay, in what way was it not a colony? First of Germany, then Britain?
The numbers of mega rich are always rising. I wonder how you would go offering a resort so exclusive that just going there is a bragging right and where not everyone gets accepted. Maybe an island that only has 100 members allowed to go to it?
Then again, if the objective of exclusivity is to be seen that might work against it.
dv said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
The history of Nauru is actually a bit sad and not a shining example of how to manage a colony.
Yeah, hmmm… Dunno if they’ve ever been a colony.
Okay, in what way was it not a colony? First of Germany, then Britain?
Sure, I was thinking of Australia, recently.
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:Most of the South Pacific nations have fuck all except nice beaches and coconuts. Maybe some chance of fishing if Japan/Taiwan/China have not already fished it out.
Always a possibility of offering airfields, but yeah, without something you are pretty well stuck. Then again, there is value in nice beaches.
Military or civil airports? Most airlines have modern Boeing or Airbus craft that can do trans-pacific non-stop, Boeing 777 or 787, Airbus A380, A350 etc. Not much business in offering fuel stops.
Perhaps there might be some future in managed fish farming for high value fish like Tuna if they have some suitable sheltered bays. But these places are normally also subject to tropical cyclones which could potentially destroy any carefully built up industry over time.
There’s always tourism I guess, and some westerners who want to live in a paradise away from it all. But I doubt even Australia and New Zealand combined have enough drunk bogans to keep every South Pacific nation afloat economically.
I was thinking military, the only ones likey interesting in maintaining out of the way air bases.
Time for some facts again.
In 2007 when Labor came to power there were 4 boat people in detention, none of them children.
When Labor lost power in 2013 there were over 10,000 boat people in detention, 2000 of them children.
Tens of hundreds of men, women and children died during this period.
Since the Coalition has come to power they have drastically reduced the number of people in detention and closed 17 refugee detention centres.
So when you see people lashing out at the Liberals over this issue just remember the facts.
AwesomeO said:
The numbers of mega rich are always rising. I wonder how you would go offering a resort so exclusive that just going there is a bragging right and where not everyone gets accepted. Maybe an island that only has 100 members allowed to go to it?Then again, if the objective of exclusivity is to be seen that might work against it.
There was a movie of cities on wheels. Why not floating resorts?
AwesomeO said:
The numbers of mega rich are always rising. I wonder how you would go offering a resort so exclusive that just going there is a bragging right and where not everyone gets accepted. Maybe an island that only has 100 members allowed to go to it?Then again, if the objective of exclusivity is to be seen that might work against it.
There seems to be a market for exclusive private islands. I was looking at some in Vauatu a few weeks back (online of course) when there was that $100 Million Powerball jackpot. Well, one can only dream.
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
Rule 303 said:Yeah, hmmm… Dunno if they’ve ever been a colony.
Okay, in what way was it not a colony? First of Germany, then Britain?
Sure, I was thinking of Australia, recently.
We took their guano and made slaves of the people.
Rule 303 said:
Did we know Billy Bragg’s in town?Currently playing a little gig in central Vic – Sold out six months ago.
I did not know that, but I was listening to his Bloke on Bloke album this evening whilst taking the dog for a walk.
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:Always a possibility of offering airfields, but yeah, without something you are pretty well stuck. Then again, there is value in nice beaches.
Military or civil airports? Most airlines have modern Boeing or Airbus craft that can do trans-pacific non-stop, Boeing 777 or 787, Airbus A380, A350 etc. Not much business in offering fuel stops.
Perhaps there might be some future in managed fish farming for high value fish like Tuna if they have some suitable sheltered bays. But these places are normally also subject to tropical cyclones which could potentially destroy any carefully built up industry over time.
There’s always tourism I guess, and some westerners who want to live in a paradise away from it all. But I doubt even Australia and New Zealand combined have enough drunk bogans to keep every South Pacific nation afloat economically.
I was thinking military, the only ones likey interesting in maintaining out of the way air bases.
and naval facilities.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
Did we know Billy Bragg’s in town?Currently playing a little gig in central Vic – Sold out six months ago.
I did not know that, but I was listening to his Bloke on Bloke album this evening whilst taking the dog for a walk.
Ahhh .nods. fine work.
roughbarked said:
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:Military or civil airports? Most airlines have modern Boeing or Airbus craft that can do trans-pacific non-stop, Boeing 777 or 787, Airbus A380, A350 etc. Not much business in offering fuel stops.
Perhaps there might be some future in managed fish farming for high value fish like Tuna if they have some suitable sheltered bays. But these places are normally also subject to tropical cyclones which could potentially destroy any carefully built up industry over time.
There’s always tourism I guess, and some westerners who want to live in a paradise away from it all. But I doubt even Australia and New Zealand combined have enough drunk bogans to keep every South Pacific nation afloat economically.
I was thinking military, the only ones likey interesting in maintaining out of the way air bases.
and naval facilities.
Naval not so much, they have better range and they like them to be within, or have air protection available. But waypoints for recon or bomber missions are useful for air.
Peak Warming Man said:
Time for some facts again.In 2007 when Labor came to power there were 4 boat people in detention, none of them children.
When Labor lost power in 2013 there were over 10,000 boat people in detention, 2000 of them children.
Tens of hundreds of men, women and children died during this period.
Since the Coalition has come to power they have drastically reduced the number of people in detention and closed 17 refugee detention centres.So when you see people lashing out at the Liberals over this issue just remember the facts.
I think the coalition government are copping it because they happen to be in government now, and have just today again confirmed that they are unable to respond to humanitarian need.
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:Always a possibility of offering airfields, but yeah, without something you are pretty well stuck. Then again, there is value in nice beaches.
Military or civil airports? Most airlines have modern Boeing or Airbus craft that can do trans-pacific non-stop, Boeing 777 or 787, Airbus A380, A350 etc. Not much business in offering fuel stops.
Perhaps there might be some future in managed fish farming for high value fish like Tuna if they have some suitable sheltered bays. But these places are normally also subject to tropical cyclones which could potentially destroy any carefully built up industry over time.
There’s always tourism I guess, and some westerners who want to live in a paradise away from it all. But I doubt even Australia and New Zealand combined have enough drunk bogans to keep every South Pacific nation afloat economically.
I was thinking military, the only ones likey interesting in maintaining out of the way air bases.
I would have thought the majority of trade routes between east Asia and North America and the Panama canal would be northern hemisphere. An airbase in Fiji or Vanuatu might be too far south to be convenient to control those routes. Fuck all shipping uses Cape Horn because it is just too dangerous.
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Time for some facts again.In 2007 when Labor came to power there were 4 boat people in detention, none of them children.
When Labor lost power in 2013 there were over 10,000 boat people in detention, 2000 of them children.
Tens of hundreds of men, women and children died during this period.
Since the Coalition has come to power they have drastically reduced the number of people in detention and closed 17 refugee detention centres.So when you see people lashing out at the Liberals over this issue just remember the facts.
I think the coalition government are copping it because they happen to be in government now, and have just today again confirmed that they are unable to respond to humanitarian need.
Happily when Labor are back in government the complaining will stop. No hands on the hill then.
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:Military or civil airports? Most airlines have modern Boeing or Airbus craft that can do trans-pacific non-stop, Boeing 777 or 787, Airbus A380, A350 etc. Not much business in offering fuel stops.
Perhaps there might be some future in managed fish farming for high value fish like Tuna if they have some suitable sheltered bays. But these places are normally also subject to tropical cyclones which could potentially destroy any carefully built up industry over time.
There’s always tourism I guess, and some westerners who want to live in a paradise away from it all. But I doubt even Australia and New Zealand combined have enough drunk bogans to keep every South Pacific nation afloat economically.
I was thinking military, the only ones likey interesting in maintaining out of the way air bases.
I would have thought the majority of trade routes between east Asia and North America and the Panama canal would be northern hemisphere. An airbase in Fiji or Vanuatu might be too far south to be convenient to control those routes. Fuck all shipping uses Cape Horn because it is just too dangerous.
I wasn’t thinking of anywhere specific, I just thought in turn context of the conversation about paying gigs for small islands, there might be scope, depending on range and requirement, for a few Chinese bomber refuelling bases out in the middle of nowhere.
Incidentally I was reading a what if, and it was staying the pacific war would have been very different if Japan (amongst other things) at pearl had blown up the fuel tanks instead of concentrating on ships.
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:I was thinking military, the only ones likey interesting in maintaining out of the way air bases.
I would have thought the majority of trade routes between east Asia and North America and the Panama canal would be northern hemisphere. An airbase in Fiji or Vanuatu might be too far south to be convenient to control those routes. Fuck all shipping uses Cape Horn because it is just too dangerous.
I wasn’t thinking of anywhere specific, I just thought in turn context of the conversation about paying gigs for small islands, there might be scope, depending on range and requirement, for a few Chinese bomber refuelling bases out in the middle of nowhere.
At the moment I don’t think they have any such bombers, but they are probably working on one. Maybe still 20 years away from looking at overseas bases for them.
Easter Islanders eventually just used up all their island resources and then died.

This is former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn’s sentencing memo.
Peak Warming Man said:
Easter Islanders eventually just used up all their island resources and then died.
Nice heads though
AwesomeO said:
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Time for some facts again.In 2007 when Labor came to power there were 4 boat people in detention, none of them children.
When Labor lost power in 2013 there were over 10,000 boat people in detention, 2000 of them children.
Tens of hundreds of men, women and children died during this period.
Since the Coalition has come to power they have drastically reduced the number of people in detention and closed 17 refugee detention centres.So when you see people lashing out at the Liberals over this issue just remember the facts.
I think the coalition government are copping it because they happen to be in government now, and have just today again confirmed that they are unable to respond to humanitarian need.
Happily when Labor are back in government the complaining will stop. No hands on the hill then.
Very fair comments by PWM.
dv said:
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This is former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn’s sentencing memo.
LOL
Being slipped a Micky Flynn could be used in future to describe a very very heavily redacted document.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/dec/05/tom-cruise-motion-smoothing-interpolation
Ooo, maybe if I’d turned off interpolation on my tele I would have enjoyed Mission Impossible – Fallout.
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Easter Islanders eventually just used up all their island resources and then died.
Nice heads though
All looking inward, none looking outward to the sea, apparently.
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
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This is former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn’s sentencing memo.
LOL
Being slipped a Micky Flynn could be used in future to describe a very very heavily redacted document.
Nice one
Nauru is only approx 6 km x 4 km. I could ride around it in a little over an hour on my bike, assuming it had bike paths.
AwesomeO said:
Incidentally I was reading a what if, and it was staying the pacific war would have been very different if Japan (amongst other things) at pearl had blown up the fuel tanks instead of concentrating on ships.
I canna see that as a game changer I’m afraid.
sooooo what do we reckon the these possible encryption laws?
Bogsnorkler said:
sooooo what do we reckon the these possible encryption laws?
Damn I’ve forgotten how to post in unseen black.
Bogsnorkler said:
sooooo what do we reckon the these possible encryption laws?
Shit. From what I have heard.
really disappointed the ALP let it pass without referring it for a committee to have a proper look into.
Peak Warming Man said:
AwesomeO said:
Incidentally I was reading a what if, and it was staying the pacific war would have been very different if Japan (amongst other things) at pearl had blown up the fuel tanks instead of concentrating on ships.
I canna see that as a game changer I’m afraid.
An extra six months the author reckoned by itself and it was based on some other conditions but it was basically getting the prosperity sphere consolidated as a done deal. With Singapore gone and a few other unsinkable aircraft carriers the cordon around the pacific would be pretty secure.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sooooo what do we reckon the these possible encryption laws?
Damn I’ve forgotten how to post in unseen black.
Bogsnorkler said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sooooo what do we reckon the these possible encryption laws?
Damn I’ve forgotten how to post in unseen black.
:-)
Bogsnorkler said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sooooo what do we reckon the these possible encryption laws?
Damn I’ve forgotten how to post in unseen black.
Thanks
evening forum what’s the word?
Arts said:
evening forum what’s the word?
Ning.
Bogsnorkler said:
Arts said:
evening forum what’s the word?
Ning.
tis a fine word, to be sure
Arts said:
evening forum what’s the word?
I can’t tell you, only the government.
Arts said:
evening forum what’s the word?
The word is bed, another word is book and the final word is wireless.
Arts said:
evening forum what’s the word?
Noun
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:
evening forum what’s the word?
The word is bed, another word is book and the final word is wireless.
far too early, late and last century
word
/wəːd/
noun
noun: word; plural noun: words; noun: one’s word; plural noun: one’s words
Arts said:
evening forum what’s the word?
Junior sprog was informed this evening that she’s doing the dishes every night for the next 6 months.
I have spent the week doing an intensive study course of crime science miscarriages of justice, forensic techniques and psychology
it’s been fascinating.. and exhausting at the same time… one more day tomorrow
sibeen said:
Arts said:
evening forum what’s the word?
Junior sprog was informed this evening that she’s doing the dishes every night for the next 6 months.
that sounds like not much fun for her but excellent for the rest of the family… what did she do?
sibeen said:
Arts said:
evening forum what’s the word?
Junior sprog was informed this evening that she’s doing the dishes every night for the next 6 months.
How did she react to that?
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
Arts said:
evening forum what’s the word?
Junior sprog was informed this evening that she’s doing the dishes every night for the next 6 months.
How did she react to that?
Resigned resignation :)
sibeen said:
Arts said:
evening forum what’s the word?
Junior sprog was informed this evening that she’s doing the dishes every night for the next 6 months.
Was this the result of negotiation or ultimatum?
Arts said:
sibeen said:
Arts said:
evening forum what’s the word?
Junior sprog was informed this evening that she’s doing the dishes every night for the next 6 months.
that sounds like not much fun for her but excellent for the rest of the family… what did she do?
Major stupidity and broke the 11th commandment.
sibeen said:
Arts said:
sibeen said:Junior sprog was informed this evening that she’s doing the dishes every night for the next 6 months.
that sounds like not much fun for her but excellent for the rest of the family… what did she do?
Major stupidity and broke the 11th commandment.
She coveted her neighbour’s ass?
sibeen said:
Arts said:
sibeen said:Junior sprog was informed this evening that she’s doing the dishes every night for the next 6 months.
that sounds like not much fun for her but excellent for the rest of the family… what did she do?
Major stupidity and broke the 11th commandment.
lol… what did she get caught at?
I feel like I’ve missed something here
sibeen said:
Arts said:
sibeen said:Junior sprog was informed this evening that she’s doing the dishes every night for the next 6 months.
that sounds like not much fun for her but excellent for the rest of the family… what did she do?
Major stupidity and broke the 11th commandment.
it was already covered under “thou shalt not steal” and “honour thy father…”
for p_p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKuy3NdLhlE&t=241s
Dovetails for Drawers – the European Way
Arts said:
I feel like I’ve missed something here
Yes, If you’d been paying attention earlier in the week I wouldn’t be typing this.
Arts said:
evening forum what’s the word?
The Bird.
:-)
sibeen said:
Arts said:
I feel like I’ve missed something here
Yes, If you’d been paying attention earlier in the week I wouldn’t be typing this.
dude, I had other stuff earlier in the week…. can you please give me an abridged version?
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
evening forum what’s the word?
The Bird.
:-)
the T bird?
I wonder if the first word was word?
Bogsnorkler said:
for p_phttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKuy3NdLhlE&t=241s
Dovetails for Drawers – the European Way
wow – he’s good.
Arts said:
sibeen said:
Arts said:
I feel like I’ve missed something here
Yes, If you’d been paying attention earlier in the week I wouldn’t be typing this.
dude, I had other stuff earlier in the week…. can you please give me an abridged version?
Stolen bottle of wine – she has good taste, it was quite expensive.
Video on snapchat showing her chugging said wine.
:)
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:
for p_phttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKuy3NdLhlE&t=241s
Dovetails for Drawers – the European Way
wow – he’s good.
is rather. and a neat couple of saws. especially the one that does the straight across cut.
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
evening forum what’s the word?
The Bird.
:-)
the T bird?
A surfin’ bird.
sibeen said:
Arts said:
sibeen said:Yes, If you’d been paying attention earlier in the week I wouldn’t be typing this.
dude, I had other stuff earlier in the week…. can you please give me an abridged version?
Stolen bottle of wine – she has good taste, it was quite expensive.
Video on snapchat showing her chugging said wine.:)
I really hope this punishment teaches her an important life-long lesson that good wine should be sipped from a glass and not chugged out of the bottle.
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:
for p_phttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKuy3NdLhlE&t=241s
Dovetails for Drawers – the European Way
wow – he’s good.
is rather. and a neat couple of saws. especially the one that does the straight across cut.
I had to watch that several times, how it goes in vertical and then cuts horizontal. Just a twist of the wrist and experience.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
Arts said:dude, I had other stuff earlier in the week…. can you please give me an abridged version?
Stolen bottle of wine – she has good taste, it was quite expensive.
Video on snapchat showing her chugging said wine.:)
I really hope this punishment teaches her an important life-long lesson that good wine should be sipped from a glass and not chugged out of the bottle.
Precisely.
sibeen said:
Arts said:
sibeen said:Yes, If you’d been paying attention earlier in the week I wouldn’t be typing this.
dude, I had other stuff earlier in the week…. can you please give me an abridged version?
Stolen bottle of wine – she has good taste, it was quite expensive.
Video on snapchat showing her chugging said wine.:)
stolen from you?
snapchat? really? I’m disappointed in your parenting…Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:The Bird.
:-)
the T bird?
A surfin’ bird.
I just thought because, you know, Grease is the word…
Arts said:
sibeen said:
Arts said:dude, I had other stuff earlier in the week…. can you please give me an abridged version?
Stolen bottle of wine – she has good taste, it was quite expensive.
Video on snapchat showing her chugging said wine.:)
stolen from you?
snapchat? really? I’m disappointed in your parenting…
Yes.Yes and yes.
I gave miss J the morning off of school because she had a late night the night before for a school performance… I went to uni and was informed by FIL (designated transport person) that she was going to go to school at recess.
why recess?, I asked, “She’s up now she can go now”
“she doesn’t want to go to English, because she hasn’t done the homework for it”
“That’s my girl” I answered
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:wow – he’s good.
is rather. and a neat couple of saws. especially the one that does the straight across cut.
I had to watch that several times, how it goes in vertical and then cuts horizontal. Just a twist of the wrist and experience.
that blade starts off narrow and with no teeth. further along teeth start but are very small. then the get larger and are bent towards 90 degrees. all these things increase until you have a blade with full teeth and at 90 degrees to the first part. no need to turn the wrist.
Shebs… what are you more upset about?
that she stole?
that she stole your wine?
that she posted it on snapchat?
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:is rather. and a neat couple of saws. especially the one that does the straight across cut.
I had to watch that several times, how it goes in vertical and then cuts horizontal. Just a twist of the wrist and experience.
that blade starts off narrow and with no teeth. further along teeth start but are very small. then the get larger and are bent towards 90 degrees. all these things increase until you have a blade with full teeth and at 90 degrees to the first part. no need to turn the wrist.
Ah, is that what it is. Very clever. One day I might own one :)
Arts said:
Shebs… what are you more upset about?that she stole?
that she stole your wine?
that she posted it on snapchat?
1. Yes
2. That’s not a biggie.
3. That’s really, really dumb.
It is also SWMBO who is more on the warpath. I was a shit of a kid so am more accepting.
sibeen said:
I was a shit of a kid so am more accepting.
I find that consistent with the evidence.
ah well, she’ll hopefully learn her lesson and become smarter from this
Arts said:
sibeen said:I was a shit of a kid so am more accepting.
I find that consistent with the evidence.
ah well, she’ll hopefully learn her lesson and become smarter from this
You could have argued just a bit. “Oh no, sibeen, I couldn’t possible believe that you were anything but a saint when you were younger” Stuff like that.
sibeen said:
Arts said:
sibeen said:I was a shit of a kid so am more accepting.
I find that consistent with the evidence.
ah well, she’ll hopefully learn her lesson and become smarter from this
You could have argued just a bit. “Oh no, sibeen, I couldn’t possible believe that you were anything but a saint when you were younger” Stuff like that.
then you’d be disappointed at us for lying :)
sibeen said:
Arts said:
sibeen said:I was a shit of a kid so am more accepting.
I find that consistent with the evidence.
ah well, she’ll hopefully learn her lesson and become smarter from this
You could have argued just a bit. “Oh no, sibeen, I couldn’t possible believe that you were anything but a saint when you were younger” Stuff like that.
why bullshit?
sibeen said:
Arts said:
Shebs… what are you more upset about?that she stole?
that she stole your wine?
that she posted it on snapchat?1. Yes
2. That’s not a biggie.
3. That’s really, really dumb.It is also SWMBO who is more on the warpath. I was a shit of a kid so am more accepting.
was the 6 months her idea?
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
Arts said:dude, I had other stuff earlier in the week…. can you please give me an abridged version?
Stolen bottle of wine – she has good taste, it was quite expensive.
Video on snapchat showing her chugging said wine.:)
I really hope this punishment teaches her an important life-long lesson that good wine should be sipped from a glass and not chugged out of the bottle.
Or “Don’t steal other people’s stuff”.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
Arts said:
Shebs… what are you more upset about?that she stole?
that she stole your wine?
that she posted it on snapchat?1. Yes
2. That’s not a biggie.
3. That’s really, really dumb.It is also SWMBO who is more on the warpath. I was a shit of a kid so am more accepting.
was the 6 months her idea?
SWMBO’s idea.
sibeen said:
Arts said:
sibeen said:I was a shit of a kid so am more accepting.
I find that consistent with the evidence.
ah well, she’ll hopefully learn her lesson and become smarter from this
You could have argued just a bit. “Oh no, sibeen, I couldn’t possible believe that you were anything but a saint when you were younger” Stuff like that.
LOL ROLFL PMSL ROFPMSL
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:1. Yes
2. That’s not a biggie.
3. That’s really, really dumb.It is also SWMBO who is more on the warpath. I was a shit of a kid so am more accepting.
was the 6 months her idea?
SWMBO’s idea.
I thought so. 6 months is a long time.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:was the 6 months her idea?
SWMBO’s idea.
I thought so. 6 months is a long time.
The wine’s no longer available to be purchased. I’m guessing half a million dollars to procure one is out of her reach. Next best, then.
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Arts said:I find that consistent with the evidence.
ah well, she’ll hopefully learn her lesson and become smarter from this
You could have argued just a bit. “Oh no, sibeen, I couldn’t possible believe that you were anything but a saint when you were younger” Stuff like that.
LOL ROLFL PMSL ROFPMSL
I’m hurt.
:)
sibeen said:
Arts said:
sibeen said:I was a shit of a kid so am more accepting.
I find that consistent with the evidence.
ah well, she’ll hopefully learn her lesson and become smarter from this
You could have argued just a bit. “Oh no, sibeen, I couldn’t possible believe that you were anything but a saint when you were younger” Stuff like that.
sure, I could have..
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:was the 6 months her idea?
SWMBO’s idea.
I thought so. 6 months is a long time.
if they are anything like normal parents, they’ll forget in about a months time
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:You could have argued just a bit. “Oh no, sibeen, I couldn’t possible believe that you were anything but a saint when you were younger” Stuff like that.
LOL ROLFL PMSL ROFPMSL
I’m hurt.
:)
:-)~P
I’m listening along to a PD podcast in the car this arvo and they shared an interesting bit of research – Controlling temperature in infection increases severity and duration of the infection.
You’re welcome.
Arts said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:SWMBO’s idea.
I thought so. 6 months is a long time.
if they are anything like normal parents, they’ll forget in about a months time
If I’ve learned anything from The Simpsons it is that punishments must stick.
Finally saw Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom. Very exciting, lots of fun.
But…
He had his face like 20 cm from glowing fastmoving lava. 600 deg C minimum. He’d have some kind of radiative burns.
And the raptor called Blue shed a tear from pain… seems dubious.
Also the indoraptor looked dumb.
And how did Lockwood clone his daughter? We know they create the dinosaurs using artificial eggshells but that’s not going to work for a mammal.
dv said:
Finally saw Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom. Very exciting, lots of fun.But…
He had his face like 20 cm from glowing fastmoving lava. 600 deg C minimum. He’d have some kind of radiative burns.
And the raptor called Blue shed a tear from pain… seems dubious.
Also the indoraptor looked dumb.
And how did Lockwood clone his daughter? We know they create the dinosaurs using artificial eggshells but that’s not going to work for a mammal.
It might if you were a platypus.

PermeateFree said:
dv said:
Finally saw Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom. Very exciting, lots of fun.But…
He had his face like 20 cm from glowing fastmoving lava. 600 deg C minimum. He’d have some kind of radiative burns.
And the raptor called Blue shed a tear from pain… seems dubious.
Also the indoraptor looked dumb.
And how did Lockwood clone his daughter? We know they create the dinosaurs using artificial eggshells but that’s not going to work for a mammal.
It might if you were a platypus.
Strangely mr kii’s oncologist just asked me about the platypus. He said he was reading about them last night. I asked if he knew the other egg laying mammal in Oz, but couldn’t remember the official name. So I told him and said there’s a test next appointment.
Good morning Holidayers. Eighteen degrees, clear sky. Going for 39 today. The house is opened up to catch some coolth first.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Eighteen degrees, clear sky. Going for 39 today. The house is opened up to catch some coolth first.
Supposed to be 25 last night, but felt much cooler because for the first time we tried a fan-heater in fan mode on the dressing table. Successful experiment, much better than pedestal fan.
28 here now. Going for 38.
> And how did Lockwood clone his daughter? We know they create the dinosaurs using artificial eggshells but that’s not going to work for a mammal.
Human hair is the usual movie method for cloning humans.
Our temperature today has been upped to a hellish 31 :(
But currently a mild 14. Off on my morning walk after this cup of tea.
Rule 303 said:
I’m listening along to a PD podcast in the car this arvo and they shared an interesting bit of research – Controlling temperature in infection increases severity and duration of the infection.You’re welcome.
It increases duration. As for severity, high temperature causes brain damage, so much better to control it.
The best way to control it is breathing refrigerated air. The cold in the lungs is transported via the heart directly to the brain so the brain is cooled while the body remains hot to better fight the infection.
You’re welcome.
What’s the betting Judge Roy Ellis is a Catholic:
Former Adelaide archbishop Philip Wilson’s conviction for concealing child sexual abuse quashed
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-06/philip-wilson-former-archbishop-conviction-quashed/10589198
dv said:
Finally saw Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom. Very exciting, lots of fun.But…
He had his face like 20 cm from glowing fastmoving lava. 600 deg C minimum. He’d have some kind of radiative burns.
And the raptor called Blue shed a tear from pain… seems dubious.
Also the indoraptor looked dumb.
And how did Lockwood clone his daughter? We know they create the dinosaurs using artificial eggshells but that’s not going to work for a mammal.
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Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Finally saw Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom. Very exciting, lots of fun.But…
He had his face like 20 cm from glowing fastmoving lava. 600 deg C minimum. He’d have some kind of radiative burns.
And the raptor called Blue shed a tear from pain… seems dubious.
Also the indoraptor looked dumb.
And how did Lockwood clone his daughter? We know they create the dinosaurs using artificial eggshells but that’s not going to work for a mammal.
do you get outdoraptors as well?
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:Stolen bottle of wine – she has good taste, it was quite expensive.
Video on snapchat showing her chugging said wine.:)
I really hope this punishment teaches her an important life-long lesson that good wine should be sipped from a glass and not chugged out of the bottle.
Or “Don’t steal other people’s stuff”.
or simply to feel empowered to ask even if one knows that the answer will be no.
I’d better head off to work. Close up the house first. Mr buffy has gone to do his water walking at the therapy pool. I guess he’ll sit around watching cricket again today. Is the cricket happening today?
buffy said:
I’d better head off to work. Close up the house first. Mr buffy has gone to do his water walking at the therapy pool. I guess he’ll sit around watching cricket again today. Is the cricket happening today?
Yes the cricket is happening.
mollwollfumble said:
buffy said:Good morning Holidayers. Eighteen degrees, clear sky. Going for 39 today. The house is opened up to catch some coolth first.
Supposed to be 25 last night, but felt much cooler because for the first time we tried a fan-heater in fan mode on the dressing table. Successful experiment, much better than pedestal fan.
28 here now. Going for 38.
It got down to 27 in Essendon, now 28.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Finally saw Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom. Very exciting, lots of fun.But…
He had his face like 20 cm from glowing fastmoving lava. 600 deg C minimum. He’d have some kind of radiative burns.
And the raptor called Blue shed a tear from pain… seems dubious.
Also the indoraptor looked dumb.
And how did Lockwood clone his daughter? We know they create the dinosaurs using artificial eggshells but that’s not going to work for a mammal.
Feck! Those POP!! things….aaaaaaaaargh. Barnes and Noble HELL!!!!!!
I’m going to clean things up in the kitchen.
Then make another mess :D
Back from a pleasant walk which entailed various exchanges with village dog-walkers along the lines of:
“Good morning, going to be a hot one today!”
“Yes so they say, but it’s gorgeous at the moment!”
etc etc
Bubblecar said:
Back from a pleasant walk which entailed various exchanges with village dog-walkers along the lines of:“Good morning, going to be a hot one today!”
“Yes so they say, but it’s gorgeous at the moment!”
etc etc
Well done! It can be tricky talking to real humans in an outdoor setting. Walking AND talking gets bonus points.
Bubblecar said:
Back from a pleasant walk which entailed various exchanges with village dog-walkers along the lines of:“Good morning, going to be a hot one today!”
“Yes so they say, but it’s gorgeous at the moment!”
etc etc
Which is a good reason to get up early in summer.
kii said:
Bubblecar said:
Back from a pleasant walk which entailed various exchanges with village dog-walkers along the lines of:“Good morning, going to be a hot one today!”
“Yes so they say, but it’s gorgeous at the moment!”
etc etc
Well done! It can be tricky talking to real humans in an outdoor setting. Walking AND talking gets bonus points.
People are generally relaxed and friendly around here but fortunately not too intrusive. A high proportion of retirees.
kii said:
Bubblecar said:
Back from a pleasant walk which entailed various exchanges with village dog-walkers along the lines of:“Good morning, going to be a hot one today!”
“Yes so they say, but it’s gorgeous at the moment!”
etc etc
Well done! It can be tricky talking to real humans in an outdoor setting. Walking AND talking gets bonus points.
That’s why I put headphones on. That way I can get away with a surly nod.
I’d be far less concerned about the ‘stolen’ bottle of wine than the binge drinking. I mean if i had evidence of binge drinking someone else’s wine my punishment would be the same.
mollwollfumble said:
Rule 303 said:
I’m listening along to a PD podcast in the car this arvo and they shared an interesting bit of research – Controlling temperature in infection increases severity and duration of the infection.You’re welcome.
It increases duration. As for severity, high temperature causes brain damage, so much better to control it.
The best way to control it is breathing refrigerated air. The cold in the lungs is transported via the heart directly to the brain so the brain is cooled while the body remains hot to better fight the infection.
You’re welcome.
.Nods.
Roger that.
Also the reason drowning in very cold water is less likely to cause brain damage: Cold water in lungs = cold blood = cold brain = preservative effect.
Hope you never need to know that.
Rule 303 said:
mollwollfumble said:
Rule 303 said:
I’m listening along to a PD podcast in the car this arvo and they shared an interesting bit of research – Controlling temperature in infection increases severity and duration of the infection.You’re welcome.
It increases duration. As for severity, high temperature causes brain damage, so much better to control it.
The best way to control it is breathing refrigerated air. The cold in the lungs is transported via the heart directly to the brain so the brain is cooled while the body remains hot to better fight the infection.
You’re welcome.
.Nods.
Roger that.
Also the reason drowning in very cold water is less likely to cause brain damage: Cold water in lungs = cold blood = cold brain = preservative effect.
Hope you never need to know that.
Whichever gets you first, drowning or hypothermia?
Witty Rejoinder said:
I’d be far less concerned about the ‘stolen’ bottle of wine than the binge drinking. I mean if i had evidence of binge drinking someone else’s wine my punishment would be the same.
She’ll use drugs instead, cheaper. If your olds are going to notice you nicking their grog and you’ve got expensive taste, drugs are the budget option…you can be smashed for 3 days for $20-30 these days…
Morning, clear warm and sunny in the Styx.
Witty Rejoinder said:
I’d be far less concerned about the ‘stolen’ bottle of wine than the binge drinking. I mean if i had evidence of binge drinking someone else’s wine my punishment would be the same.
Sibeen (to sprog): Next time I’ll set Witty onto you!
Sprog (unfazed): Wouldn’t make any difference, his punishment would be the same.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:Junior sprog was informed this evening that she’s doing the dishes every night for the next 6 months.
How did she react to that?
Resigned resignation :)
A woman’s life for her eh…
poikilotherm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
I’d be far less concerned about the ‘stolen’ bottle of wine than the binge drinking. I mean if i had evidence of binge drinking someone else’s wine my punishment would be the same.
She’ll use drugs instead, cheaper. If your olds are going to notice you nicking their grog and you’ve got expensive taste, drugs are the budget option…you can be smashed for 3 days for $20-30 these days…
There’s a comforting thought :)
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:
mollwollfumble said:It increases duration. As for severity, high temperature causes brain damage, so much better to control it.
The best way to control it is breathing refrigerated air. The cold in the lungs is transported via the heart directly to the brain so the brain is cooled while the body remains hot to better fight the infection.
You’re welcome.
.Nods.
Roger that.
Also the reason drowning in very cold water is less likely to cause brain damage: Cold water in lungs = cold blood = cold brain = preservative effect.
Hope you never need to know that.
Whichever gets you first, drowning or hypothermia?
There’s a range of claims about the longest duration of survival (neurologically intact) from drowning (between 29min and 3h10min), but I think it’s fair to say at the believable end of the range, drowning will get you first.
Rule 303 said:
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:.Nods.
Roger that.
Also the reason drowning in very cold water is less likely to cause brain damage: Cold water in lungs = cold blood = cold brain = preservative effect.
Hope you never need to know that.
Whichever gets you first, drowning or hypothermia?
There’s a range of claims about the longest duration of survival (neurologically intact) from drowning (between 29min and 3h10min), but I think it’s fair to say at the believable end of the range, drowning will get you first.
On re-reading, I see I need to completely re-write that sentence.
.sigh.
Rule 303 said:
Rule 303 said:
roughbarked said:Whichever gets you first, drowning or hypothermia?
There’s a range of claims about the longest duration of survival (neurologically intact) from drowning (between 29min and 3h10min), but I think it’s fair to say at the believable end of the range, drowning will get you first.
On re-reading, I see I need to completely re-write that sentence.
.sigh.
No matter, you answered my question anyway.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-07/liberals-left-shaken-by-tough-fortnight-in-and-out-of-parliament/10592672
Michelle Grattan’s take on it.
Morning on olidees. :)
Indoors 20.8C & 67%
Outdoors 18.0C & 81%
1024 hPa and steady
Headed for 24C
No moolies to report.
Woodie said:
Morning on olidees. :)Indoors 20.8C & 67%
Outdoors 18.0C & 81%1024 hPa and steady
Headed for 24C
No moolies to report.
Morning Woodie. How come you’re headed for 24 when the rest of the nation is expecting 30s & 40s?
Average rainfall to Dec 403.4mm 74.9 day(s)
Total for 2018 199.0mm 66 day(s)
December maximum temperature
Highest this month 36.0°C 6th
Highest on record 44.0°C 31st 2005
Average this month 31.1°C +0.1°C
Long-term average 31.0°C
December rainfall
Wettest this month 0.0mm 1st
Total this month 0.0mm 0 day(s)
Long-term average 32.4mm 5.0 day(s)
Wettest on record 127.8mm 1992
Driest on record 0.0mm 1967
FRI Dec 7
Mostly sunny
37°C
SAT Dec 8
Mostly sunny
38°C
SUN
Dec 9
Mostly sunny
39°C
MON
Dec 10
Mostly sunny
34°C
TUE
Dec 11
Mostly sunny
34°C
WED
Dec 12
Mostly sunny
34°C
80% chance 1-5mm
THU
Dec 13
Mostly sunny
33°C
80% chance 10-20mm
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
Morning on olidees. :)Indoors 20.8C & 67%
Outdoors 18.0C & 81%1024 hPa and steady
Headed for 24C
No moolies to report.
Morning Woodie. How come you’re headed for 24 when the rest of the nation is expecting 30s & 40s?
Dunno. Sumfin to do with the weather I suppose. I blame it on climate change deniers.
Breakfast: as a change from green beans, chopped onion & seasonings done in the microwave, it’s green peas, chopped onion & seasonings done in the microwave.
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
Morning on olidees. :)Indoors 20.8C & 67%
Outdoors 18.0C & 81%1024 hPa and steady
Headed for 24C
No moolies to report.
Morning Woodie. How come you’re headed for 24 when the rest of the nation is expecting 30s & 40s?
Dunno. Sumfin to do with the weather I suppose. I blame it on climate change deniers.
More like swings and roundabouts.
Good morning.
Overcast, showers, top of 24. Humid as f today.
Feeling a bit stressed today. My neighbour’s kid has been hospitalised. He’s running a temp but when his temp spikes, he can’t stand on his right leg. Mini Me’s birthday party is next week and she wants a tiger cake. There have been layoffs at mr mutant’s company… that’s what happens when the company is funded by a billionaire and spokes aren’t making money. There’s a Starbucks opening around the corner so as a last resort he can change careers…
Divine Angel said:
Good morning.Overcast, showers, top of 24. Humid as f today.
Feeling a bit stressed today. My neighbour’s kid has been hospitalised. He’s running a temp but when his temp spikes, he can’t stand on his right leg. Mini Me’s birthday party is next week and she wants a tiger cake. There have been layoffs at mr mutant’s company… that’s what happens when the company is funded by a billionaire and spokes aren’t making money. There’s a Starbucks opening around the corner so as a last resort he can change careers…
How many people are invited to Mini Me’s ‘s party?
Let’s hope mr mutant doesn’t end up at Krispy Kreme.
I’ve got four kids confirmed, but one of those is in hospital… so….
3 grandparents, one aunt & uncle, eight parents, and a partridge in a pear tree.
Morning punters and correctors.
I don’t reckon that that Corby girl can go two years without doing something bad.
I reckon she’s about to explode across the headlines anytime now.
Divine Angel said:
I’ve got four kids confirmed, but one of those is in hospital… so….3 grandparents, one aunt & uncle, eight parents, and a partridge in a pear tree.
Place will be packed & pumping.
Cops will arrive to request that you turn down the deafening Wiggles music.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters and correctors.
I don’t reckon that that Corby girl can go two years without doing something bad.
I reckon she’s about to explode across the headlines anytime now.
Maybe even guzzling her Dad’s wine on Snapchat.
We’re having her party at the miniature trains held by the lions club.
Should I go to a community meeting about a nasty parking issue for two nearby businesses or should I hide?
Divine Angel said:
We’re having her party at the miniature trains held by the lions club.
Goodo.
kii said:
Should I go to a community meeting about a nasty parking issue for two nearby businesses or should I hide?
Go and sort them out.
I’d better get on with some art while the temperature’s still moderate.
Divine Angel said:
Good morning.Overcast, showers, top of 24. Humid as f today.
Feeling a bit stressed today. My neighbour’s kid has been hospitalised. He’s running a temp but when his temp spikes, he can’t stand on his right leg. Mini Me’s birthday party is next week and she wants a tiger cake. There have been layoffs at mr mutant’s company… that’s what happens when the company is funded by a billionaire and spokes aren’t making money. There’s a Starbucks opening around the corner so as a last resort he can change careers…
Feeling a bit stressed? passes a Bex Now go have a good lay down. :)
I understand Laxettes can help too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTZmUcD1avE
Bubblecar said:
kii said:
Should I go to a community meeting about a nasty parking issue for two nearby businesses or should I hide?
Go and sort them out.
I tried that at the bus meeting and people don’t listen to what I am saying, they just heard my accent :(
Not another one.
Go as a concerned English witch.
Divine Angel said:
I’ve got four kids confirmed, but one of those is in hospital… so….3 grandparents, one aunt & uncle, eight parents, and a partridge in a pear tree.
Just open an in-house family day care centre. Can be party day every day then. :)
Peak Warming Man said:
Go as a concerned English witch.
It could be a Trump Trap for legal aliens. ICE and Border Patrol probably have a cage ready for me. There’s a Border Patrol compound up the road.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters and correctors.
I don’t reckon that that Corby girl can go two years without doing something bad.
I reckon she’s about to explode across the headlines anytime now.
Yep. She’s about to hit No 1 on the top 40. Her theme song has been released.
Boogie Woogie Boogie Board from Company B.
Woodie said:
Divine Angel said:
I’ve got four kids confirmed, but one of those is in hospital… so….3 grandparents, one aunt & uncle, eight parents, and a partridge in a pear tree.
Just open an in-house family day care centre. Can be party day every day then. :)
Hell no
Divine Angel said:
We’re having her party at the miniature trains held by the lions club.
TOOT!
kii said:
Should I go to a community meeting about a nasty parking issue for two nearby businesses or should I hide?
You go take the podium and you tell ‘em Aunty Kii. And while you’re there, tell ‘em what you think of Donald Trump as well.
kii said:
Bubblecar said:
Back from a pleasant walk which entailed various exchanges with village dog-walkers along the lines of:“Good morning, going to be a hot one today!”
“Yes so they say, but it’s gorgeous at the moment!”
etc etc
Well done! It can be tricky talking to real humans in an outdoor setting. Walking AND talking gets bonus points.
:)
Good morning.
Warm, humid, overcast and breezy here. There was some rain last night, but I haven’t checked ORB yet.
Woodie said:
kii said:
Should I go to a community meeting about a nasty parking issue for two nearby businesses or should I hide?
You go take the podium and you tell ‘em Aunty Kii. And while you’re there, tell ‘em what you think of Donald Trump as well.
Yeah, nah. One of the businesses that causes parking issues is the local barber. His clients are mostly Good Old Boys.
FUG! This one fell down yesterday right on day 1 of me ollidees.
This one’s gunna need TWO chainsaws.
Woodie said:
FUG! This one fell down yesterday right on day 1 of me ollidees.This one’s gunna need TWO chainsaws.
Cut it up and let it season and it will be ready for next winter to burn.
Divine Angel said:
Good morning.Overcast, showers, top of 24. Humid as f today.
Feeling a bit stressed today. My neighbour’s kid has been hospitalised. He’s running a temp but when his temp spikes, he can’t stand on his right leg. Mini Me’s birthday party is next week and she wants a tiger cake. There have been layoffs at mr mutant’s company… that’s what happens when the company is funded by a billionaire and spokes aren’t making money. There’s a Starbucks opening around the corner so as a last resort he can change careers…
Deep breaths. Slowly now. Relax. Relax. Think of somewhere beautiful, doing something you want to do…
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Good morning.Overcast, showers, top of 24. Humid as f today.
Feeling a bit stressed today. My neighbour’s kid has been hospitalised. He’s running a temp but when his temp spikes, he can’t stand on his right leg. Mini Me’s birthday party is next week and she wants a tiger cake. There have been layoffs at mr mutant’s company… that’s what happens when the company is funded by a billionaire and spokes aren’t making money. There’s a Starbucks opening around the corner so as a last resort he can change careers…
Deep breaths. Slowly now. Relax. Relax. Think of somewhere beautiful, doing something you want to do…
Nah nah nah nah nah. Drugs man. Drugs. Total sensory deprivation and backup drugs. It’s the only way.
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters and correctors.
I don’t reckon that that Corby girl can go two years without doing something bad.
I reckon she’s about to explode across the headlines anytime now.
Yep. She’s about to hit No 1 on the top 40. Her theme song has been released.
Boogie Woogie Boogie Board from Company B.
LOL
Woodie said:
FUG! This one fell down yesterday right on day 1 of me ollidees.This one’s gunna need TWO chainsaws.
Bugger. Ask me about snigging chains when you get here.
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Good morning.Overcast, showers, top of 24. Humid as f today.
Feeling a bit stressed today. My neighbour’s kid has been hospitalised. He’s running a temp but when his temp spikes, he can’t stand on his right leg. Mini Me’s birthday party is next week and she wants a tiger cake. There have been layoffs at mr mutant’s company… that’s what happens when the company is funded by a billionaire and spokes aren’t making money. There’s a Starbucks opening around the corner so as a last resort he can change careers…
Deep breaths. Slowly now. Relax. Relax. Think of somewhere beautiful, doing something you want to do…
Nah nah nah nah nah. Drugs man. Drugs. Total sensory deprivation and backup drugs. It’s the only way.
:)
Michael V said:
Woodie said:
FUG! This one fell down yesterday right on day 1 of me ollidees.This one’s gunna need TWO chainsaws.
Bugger. Ask me about snigging chains when you get here.
Does that involve tractors?
kii said:
Should I go to a community meeting about a nasty parking issue for two nearby businesses or should I hide?
And now I am wondering what a ‘nasty parking issue’ is.
Woodie said:
FUG! This one fell down yesterday right on day 1 of me ollidees.This one’s gunna need TWO chainsaws.
Nice. As you’re blocking down the trunk, see if you can get the root ball to stand it back up again. Always good for a huge laugh.
:-)
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
Woodie said:
FUG! This one fell down yesterday right on day 1 of me ollidees.This one’s gunna need TWO chainsaws.
Bugger. Ask me about snigging chains when you get here.
Does that involve tractors?
Yes, and my snigging chains. For snigging stuff. With a tractor.
Rule 303 said:
Woodie said:
FUG! This one fell down yesterday right on day 1 of me ollidees.This one’s gunna need TWO chainsaws.
Nice. As you’re blocking down the trunk……………………………
:-)
Does that involve tractors too?
Woodie said:
Rule 303 said:
Woodie said:
FUG! This one fell down yesterday right on day 1 of me ollidees.This one’s gunna need TWO chainsaws.
Nice. As you’re blocking down the trunk……………………………
:-)
Does that involve tractors too?
Chainsaws, I’d reckon.
Michael V said:
Woodie said:
Michael V said:Bugger. Ask me about snigging chains when you get here.
Does that involve tractors?
Yes, and my snigging chains. For snigging stuff. With a tractor.
See? Knew that tractor would come in handy for sumfin’ one of these days. :)
Why was this published today, when I needed to be practising it last night at “Mrs V’s Rainbow Beach Boomerang Bags Christmas Party at our place”?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-07/office-christmas-party-small-tall-how-to-be-a-good-listener/10586376
There’s this one too. That blew down 10 months ago.
Woodie said:
There’s this one too. That blew down 10 months ago.
You need to put guy ropes on all your trees.
Michael V said:
Why was this published today, when I needed to be practising it last night at “Mrs V’s Rainbow Beach Boomerang Bags Christmas Party at our place”?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-07/office-christmas-party-small-tall-how-to-be-a-good-listener/10586376
“My group of friends use the ‘three questions rule’. In a new social conversation, if you ask three questions and they don’t ask you one back, get out! That person doesn’t have manners and won’t be a good conversationalist.”
Exactly. :)
PermeateFree said:
dv said:
Finally saw Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom. Very exciting, lots of fun.But…
He had his face like 20 cm from glowing fastmoving lava. 600 deg C minimum. He’d have some kind of radiative burns.
And the raptor called Blue shed a tear from pain… seems dubious.
Also the indoraptor looked dumb.
And how did Lockwood clone his daughter? We know they create the dinosaurs using artificial eggshells but that’s not going to work for a mammal.
It might if you were a platypus.
Touche.
sibeen said:
Woodie said:
There’s this one too. That blew down 10 months ago.
You need to put guy ropes on all your trees.
Or chop ‘em down before they fall down.
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Good morning.Overcast, showers, top of 24. Humid as f today.
Feeling a bit stressed today. My neighbour’s kid has been hospitalised. He’s running a temp but when his temp spikes, he can’t stand on his right leg. Mini Me’s birthday party is next week and she wants a tiger cake. There have been layoffs at mr mutant’s company… that’s what happens when the company is funded by a billionaire and spokes aren’t making money. There’s a Starbucks opening around the corner so as a last resort he can change careers…
Deep breaths. Slowly now. Relax. Relax. Think of somewhere beautiful, doing something you want to do…
Nah nah nah nah nah. Drugs man. Drugs. Total sensory deprivation and backup drugs. It’s the only way.
That’s how I’ve tried to live the past 2 years. In fact should I have a top up prior to the contentious parking issue with the rednecks, the disabled tile artisan, the bodyguard martial arts marine and the rest of us?
Rule 303 said:
kii said:
Should I go to a community meeting about a nasty parking issue for two nearby businesses or should I hide?
And now I am wondering what a ‘nasty parking issue’ is.
It involves BIG pickups, men, a barber shop and a disabled neighbour who is trying to live a peaceful and the pickups keep smashing into her car. Plus sidewalk access, fire hydrants and fuckwits.
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
Why was this published today, when I needed to be practising it last night at “Mrs V’s Rainbow Beach Boomerang Bags Christmas Party at our place”?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-07/office-christmas-party-small-tall-how-to-be-a-good-listener/10586376
“My group of friends use the ‘three questions rule’. In a new social conversation, if you ask three questions and they don’t ask you one back, get out! That person doesn’t have manners and won’t be a good conversationalist.”
Exactly. :)
Great, good to know how to get rid of chatty types at gatherings…
sibeen said:
Woodie said:
There’s this one too. That blew down 10 months ago.
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You need to put guy ropes on all your trees.
Why my ropes?
“St Kilda Beach drinking banned by Melbourne council after recent violence”
Huh. Is beach drinking generally legal in NSW?
dv said:
“St Kilda Beach drinking banned by Melbourne council after recent violence”Huh. Is beach drinking generally legal in NSW?
Don’t know, but St Kilda beach is in Victoria.
dv said:
“St Kilda Beach drinking banned by Melbourne council after recent violence”Huh. Is beach drinking generally legal in NSW?
Yes, unless in a ‘alcohol restricted’ area.
sibeen said:
dv said:
“St Kilda Beach drinking banned by Melbourne council after recent violence”Huh. Is beach drinking generally legal in NSW?
Don’t know, but St Kilda beach is in Victoria.
Give him time, he’s probably still shocked by the freedom in Aus compared to Changi.
Guy said:
sibeen said:
Woodie said:
There’s this one too. That blew down 10 months ago.
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You need to put guy ropes on all your trees.
Why my ropes?
You’re being credited with the invention, don’t argue.
poikilotherm said:
sibeen said:
dv said:
“St Kilda Beach drinking banned by Melbourne council after recent violence”Huh. Is beach drinking generally legal in NSW?
Don’t know, but St Kilda beach is in Victoria.
Give him time, he’s probably still shocked by the freedom in Aus compared to Changi.
British Museum.
kii said:
Rule 303 said:
kii said:
Should I go to a community meeting about a nasty parking issue for two nearby businesses or should I hide?
And now I am wondering what a ‘nasty parking issue’ is.
It involves BIG pickups, men, a barber shop and a disabled neighbour who is trying to live a peaceful and the pickups keep smashing into her car. Plus sidewalk access, fire hydrants and fuckwits.
Ahhh.
What will the meeting be asking for?
Ine gunna go do sum pumpin’.
Woodie said:
Rule 303 said:
Woodie said:
FUG! This one fell down yesterday right on day 1 of me ollidees.This one’s gunna need TWO chainsaws.
Nice. As you’re blocking down the trunk……………………………
:-)
Does that involve tractors too?
You know it does! Bring all the tractors from miles around. Tractors akimbo, tractors du jour, and tractors extraordinaire. Tractors up the yin-yang.
Tractors.
Rule 303 said:
kii said:
Rule 303 said:And now I am wondering what a ‘nasty parking issue’ is.
It involves BIG pickups, men, a barber shop and a disabled neighbour who is trying to live a peaceful and the pickups keep smashing into her car. Plus sidewalk access, fire hydrants and fuckwits.
Ahhh.
What will the meeting be asking for?
Well….they held a meeting a few weeks back and no notice was given to residents. The artisan tile maker received a phone call the day before and attended the meeting where I reckon she kicked up a stink. Hence the properly notified meeting in an hour.
Parking
Sidewalks
And other related items are on the agenda. I’m in the garden and the letter is inside. I’m not going inside to check it.
sibeen said:
dv said:
“St Kilda Beach drinking banned by Melbourne council after recent violence”Huh. Is beach drinking generally legal in NSW?
Don’t know, but St Kilda beach is in Victoria.
There was a couple of small skirmishes in Rye between a handful of teenagers, who were having a good time in a public place, and squadrons of armed, armored, and extremely aggressive ‘riot squad’ cops, who quickly suppressed the enormous threat to life and property (somebody threw a bottle at a cop) by totally over-reacting. The over-reaction has since grown to include places where the riot squad haven’t even been yet.
As always, if you’ve got nothing to hide, you’ve got nothing to worry about…
dv said:
Finally saw Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom. Very exciting, lots of fun.
We finished watching The Truth About the Harry Quebert Affair last night. That was stupid too. Started off well, but gradually got more and more silly. There’s only so much suspension of belief I’m willing to do.
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
dv said:
“St Kilda Beach drinking banned by Melbourne council after recent violence”Huh. Is beach drinking generally legal in NSW?
Don’t know, but St Kilda beach is in Victoria.
There was a couple of small skirmishes in Rye between a handful of teenagers, who were having a good time in a public place, and squadrons of armed, armored, and extremely aggressive ‘riot squad’ cops, who quickly suppressed the enormous threat to life and property (somebody threw a bottle at a cop) by totally over-reacting. The over-reaction has since grown to include places where the riot squad haven’t even been yet.
As always, if you’ve got nothing to hide, you’ve got nothing to worry about…
I’ve got nothing to hide and anyway they can’t prove it.
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
dv said:
“St Kilda Beach drinking banned by Melbourne council after recent violence”Huh. Is beach drinking generally legal in NSW?
Don’t know, but St Kilda beach is in Victoria.
There was a couple of small skirmishes in Rye between a handful of teenagers, who were having a good time in a public place, and squadrons of armed, armored, and extremely aggressive ‘riot squad’ cops, who quickly suppressed the enormous threat to life and property (somebody threw a bottle at a cop) by totally over-reacting. The over-reaction has since grown to include places where the riot squad haven’t even been yet.
As always, if you’ve got nothing to hide, you’ve got nothing to worry about…
not at all unusual for councils annually to consider dry areas (for the silly season) and make it understood.
alcohol’s not known for raising the IQ of humans, and many humans aren’t gifted off the bat, so you know many councils don’t license a chemically-induced lobotomy in public places, and encourage a larger social dimension to the insult.
https://www.abc.net.au/life/knowing-when-to-put-down-your-dog/9856558
“Ask yourself if you believe in euthanasia.”
WTF? This isn’t like Santa Claus. You love your pet, you don’t want them to suffer.
Speaking of which… Mr Mutant just found a family of baby mice living in the worm farm. He’s taken them down to the bushland to let them go.
“Why don’t you just put them in the freezer?”
“I can’t do that!”
“But setting traps for adult mice is fine?”
“Well yeah… they’re adult mice. They’ve had a good life.”
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:Don’t know, but St Kilda beach is in Victoria.
There was a couple of small skirmishes in Rye between a handful of teenagers, who were having a good time in a public place, and squadrons of armed, armored, and extremely aggressive ‘riot squad’ cops, who quickly suppressed the enormous threat to life and property (somebody threw a bottle at a cop) by totally over-reacting. The over-reaction has since grown to include places where the riot squad haven’t even been yet.
As always, if you’ve got nothing to hide, you’ve got nothing to worry about…
I’ve got nothing to hide and anyway they can’t prove it.
Come out with me next time you drop down to Melbourne – We’ll get you some stuff to hide.
:-)
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
dv said:
“St Kilda Beach drinking banned by Melbourne council after recent violence”Huh. Is beach drinking generally legal in NSW?
Don’t know, but St Kilda beach is in Victoria.
There was a couple of small skirmishes in Rye between a handful of teenagers, who were having a good time in a public place, and squadrons of armed, armored, and extremely aggressive ‘riot squad’ cops, who quickly suppressed the enormous threat to life and property (somebody threw a bottle at a cop) by totally over-reacting. The over-reaction has since grown to include places where the riot squad haven’t even been yet.
As always, if you’ve got nothing to hide, you’ve got nothing to worry about…
If you’ve got nothing to hide, you’re not human.
Divine Angel said:
dv said:
Finally saw Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom. Very exciting, lots of fun.
Nope, it was stupid. For lots of reasons, not just the ones you pointed out.
It was pretty dumb yeah
kii said:
poikilotherm said:
sibeen said:Don’t know, but St Kilda beach is in Victoria.
Give him time, he’s probably still shocked by the freedom in Aus compared to Changi.
British Museum.
That one never gets old.
The arrest has been strongly protested by Chinese authorities, with Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said Beijing saying: “Detention without giving any reason violates the human rights of the person detained.”
https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/us-tech-execs-warned-on-china-travel-after-huawei-executive-arrest-20181207-p50krk.html
…
Oh the ironing….
Witty Rejoinder said:
The arrest has been strongly protested by Chinese authorities, with Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said Beijing saying: “Detention without giving any reason violates the human rights of the person detained.”https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/us-tech-execs-warned-on-china-travel-after-huawei-executive-arrest-20181207-p50krk.html
…
Oh the ironing….
Thinking outside that square
Cymek said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
The arrest has been strongly protested by Chinese authorities, with Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said Beijing saying: “Detention without giving any reason violates the human rights of the person detained.”https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/us-tech-execs-warned-on-china-travel-after-huawei-executive-arrest-20181207-p50krk.html
…
Oh the ironing….
Thinking outside that square
Tiananmen Square.
Cymek said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
The arrest has been strongly protested by Chinese authorities, with Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said Beijing saying: “Detention without giving any reason violates the human rights of the person detained.”https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/us-tech-execs-warned-on-china-travel-after-huawei-executive-arrest-20181207-p50krk.html
…
Oh the ironing….
Thinking outside that square
Tiananmen Square?
sibeen said:
Cymek said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
The arrest has been strongly protested by Chinese authorities, with Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said Beijing saying: “Detention without giving any reason violates the human rights of the person detained.”https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/us-tech-execs-warned-on-china-travel-after-huawei-executive-arrest-20181207-p50krk.html
…
Oh the ironing….
Thinking outside that square
Tiananmen Square.
OI !! Beeny Boy! That’s my line!
Woodie said:
Cymek said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
The arrest has been strongly protested by Chinese authorities, with Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said Beijing saying: “Detention without giving any reason violates the human rights of the person detained.”https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/us-tech-execs-warned-on-china-travel-after-huawei-executive-arrest-20181207-p50krk.html
…
Oh the ironing….
Thinking outside that square
Tiananmen Square?
Yes
The fancy brass hair barrette I’ve been wearing for years is broken, so I’d better order another one. Maybe one of these.


Bubblecar said:
The fancy brass hair barrette I’ve been wearing for years is broken, so I’d better order another one. Maybe one of these.
They are nice, is your hair still long
Bubblecar said:
The fancy brass hair barrette I’ve been wearing for years is broken, so I’d better order another one. Maybe one of these.
I love the feather.
Cymek said:
Bubblecar said:
The fancy brass hair barrette I’ve been wearing for years is broken, so I’d better order another one. Maybe one of these.
They are nice, is your hair still long
Yes. Or I could try something like this but it might look too old ladyish:

sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
The fancy brass hair barrette I’ve been wearing for years is broken, so I’d better order another one. Maybe one of these.
I love the feather.
Yes I’ll probably get that. But I might get another one as well.
“Detention without giving any reason violates the human rights of the person detained.”
Well, the Chinese govt certainly speaks with the voice of experience on that one.
I’m thinking bacon and eggs for lunch, maybe on a sandwich.
Over.
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m thinking bacon and eggs for lunch, maybe on a sandwich.
Over.
Salad sandwich here. Not sitting outside reading today, it’s a shocker, hot with hot winds, plant killing weather. So I am watching the last half of Dr Phil for giggles then it’s Xbox time. Lovely and cool inside with just the occasional rattle of wind on the wondows.
AwesomeO said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m thinking bacon and eggs for lunch, maybe on a sandwich.
Over.
Salad sandwich here. Not sitting outside reading today, it’s a shocker, hot with hot winds, plant killing weather. So I am watching the last half of Dr Phil for giggles then it’s Xbox time. Lovely and cool inside with just the occasional rattle of wind on the wondows.
Sandstone building? high ceilings?
Parcel of train stuff has just arrived from England, including that little Peckett locomotive.
Peak Warming Man said:
AwesomeO said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m thinking bacon and eggs for lunch, maybe on a sandwich.
Over.
Salad sandwich here. Not sitting outside reading today, it’s a shocker, hot with hot winds, plant killing weather. So I am watching the last half of Dr Phil for giggles then it’s Xbox time. Lovely and cool inside with just the occasional rattle of wind on the wondows.
Sandstone building? high ceilings?
Mud brick, white concrete render, high ceilings, double roof.
Bubblecar said:
Parcel of train stuff has just arrived from England, including that little Peckett locomotive.
Way kewlies. :) TOOT!
Bubblecar said:
Parcel of train stuff has just arrived from England, including that little Peckett locomotive.
Is it tiny, metal and intricate? Love that sort of gear.
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
Parcel of train stuff has just arrived from England, including that little Peckett locomotive.
Way kewlies. :) TOOT!
Can’t work out how to open the loco box though :)
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
Parcel of train stuff has just arrived from England, including that little Peckett locomotive.
Way kewlies. :) TOOT!
Can’t work out how to open the loco box though :)
No box can withstand the Stanley knife.
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
Parcel of train stuff has just arrived from England, including that little Peckett locomotive.
Way kewlies. :) TOOT!
Can’t work out how to open the loco box though :)
Fair enough, put it in the garage next to the bike.
AwesomeO said:
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:Way kewlies. :) TOOT!
Can’t work out how to open the loco box though :)
Fair enough, put it in the garage next to the bike.
There really doesn’t seem to be any way of opening it without destroying the box. Lord knows how they got it in there.
AwesomeO said:
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:Way kewlies. :) TOOT!
Can’t work out how to open the loco box though :)
Fair enough, put it in the garage next to the bike.
LOL
dv said:
This truck driver
seen that one a few times. soooooo lucky that kid that the driver was probably anticipating.
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
This truck driver
seen that one a few times. soooooo lucky that kid that the driver was probably anticipating.
Modern braking systems are a wonderful thing.
In some places (SA, for example) all vehicles most slow to 25km/hr when passing school buses picking up or dropping off children. Seems like a good idea.
Hello Lunchtimers. Hey anyone in Melbourne..have you got strong winds? VicEmergency seems to have a lot of trees down.
buffy said:
Hello Lunchtimers. Hey anyone in Melbourne..have you got strong winds? VicEmergency seems to have a lot of trees down.
I am not in Melbourne but it is blowing here. Gusty rattling Windows and shoving trees around strength.
buffy said:
Hello Lunchtimers. Hey anyone in Melbourne..have you got strong winds? VicEmergency seems to have a lot of trees down.
I wouldn’t say really strong. Quite gusty and bloody hot.
buffy said:
Hello Lunchtimers. Hey anyone in Melbourne..have you got strong winds? VicEmergency seems to have a lot of trees down.
Nope.
Eucalypts are well known to drop branches on still, hot, days.
Rule 303 said:
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
This truck driver
seen that one a few times. soooooo lucky that kid that the driver was probably anticipating.
Modern braking systems are a wonderful thing.
In some places (SA, for example) all vehicles most slow to 25km/hr when passing school buses picking up or dropping off children. Seems like a good idea.
that wasn’t a school bus though.
Jaysus fecking chistopher!!!
The Good Old Boys were rude little bullies this evening.
buffy said:
Hello Lunchtimers. Hey anyone in Melbourne..have you got strong winds? VicEmergency seems to have a lot of trees down.
all quiet on the western front.
buffy said:
Hello Lunchtimers. Hey anyone in Melbourne..have you got strong winds? VicEmergency seems to have a lot of trees down.
I’m in Perth getting a nice breeze but that’s the fan
Finally opened and here it is, compared with an ordinary human mouse.
Tiny but quite heavy, as it needs to be to be a decent hauler. Unfortunately the chimney looks a bit bent.
kii said:
Jaysus fecking chistopher!!!The Good Old Boys were rude little bullies this evening.
Sounds like an unpleasant evening.
Bogsnorkler said:
Rule 303 said:
Bogsnorkler said:seen that one a few times. soooooo lucky that kid that the driver was probably anticipating.
Modern braking systems are a wonderful thing.
In some places (SA, for example) all vehicles most slow to 25km/hr when passing school buses picking up or dropping off children. Seems like a good idea.
that wasn’t a school bus though.
I don’t know enough about Norwegian bus operations to tell.
Bubblecar said:
kii said:
Jaysus fecking chistopher!!!The Good Old Boys were rude little bullies this evening.
Sounds like an unpleasant evening.
Being called the Good Old Boys I can imagine what sort of people they are like
teuthophagous is the word power word of the day
Bubblecar said:
kii said:
Jaysus fecking chistopher!!!The Good Old Boys were rude little bullies this evening.
Sounds like an unpleasant evening.
Well it was an eye opener, to typical male entitlement. I even had the barber “mansplain” to me a point I had mention (which showed I understood), so I kept saying – “I understand that.” He and his two workers sat a few rows behind the disabled woman who has been lobbying the city for years and they made rude impatient noises every time she spoke. I called them out on it. Then I suggested that some mediation happen between various parties because it sure seemed like stuff had been brewing for years.
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:Hello Lunchtimers. Hey anyone in Melbourne..have you got strong winds? VicEmergency seems to have a lot of trees down.
Nope.
Eucalypts are well known to drop branches on still, hot, days.
It seems to be trees down. I don’t think you could call today a still day. At least not here, nor where Awesome is. We’ve got hot gusty winds. And there are fires around Geelong and Ballarat.
Cymek said:
Bubblecar said:
kii said:
Jaysus fecking chistopher!!!The Good Old Boys were rude little bullies this evening.
Sounds like an unpleasant evening.
Being called the Good Old Boys I can imagine what sort of people they are like
They weren’t white, seemed mostly Hispanic/White. We left as it started to go to shit. The city guy running the show also has preconceived opinions and biases. Anyway…..
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-06/extreme-heatwave-from-northern-wa-to-melbourne-adelaide/10590776
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47. Far out.
I’ll leave now.
kii said:
I’ll leave now.
Go well. :) Hope things keep on improving. Don’t let the good ol boys get you down.
kii said:
Bubblecar said:
kii said:
Jaysus fecking chistopher!!!The Good Old Boys were rude little bullies this evening.
Sounds like an unpleasant evening.
Well it was an eye opener, to typical male entitlement. I even had the barber “mansplain” to me a point I had mention (which showed I understood), so I kept saying – “I understand that.” He and his two workers sat a few rows behind the disabled woman who has been lobbying the city for years and they made rude impatient noises every time she spoke. I called them out on it. Then I suggested that some mediation happen between various parties because it sure seemed like stuff had been brewing for years.
Hopefully your presence ensured it wasn’t as nasty for the disabled woman as it otherwise would have been.
kii said:
Bubblecar said:
kii said:
Jaysus fecking chistopher!!!The Good Old Boys were rude little bullies this evening.
Sounds like an unpleasant evening.
Well it was an eye opener, to typical male entitlement. I even had the barber “mansplain” to me a point I had mention (which showed I understood), so I kept saying – “I understand that.” He and his two workers sat a few rows behind the disabled woman who has been lobbying the city for years and they made rude impatient noises every time she spoke. I called them out on it. Then I suggested that some mediation happen between various parties because it sure seemed like stuff had been brewing for years.
Ha, yesterday at writers group, someone read their work and I commented that, as a feminist, it could be interpreted as part of the #metoo movement. A new member quipped to the woman next to him that “more than me too is us four.” I stood up so fast, I knocked my chair over.
“And you, sir, are the problem! I don’t suppose you’ve been sexually assaulted and forced to hide the truth due to shame? That no one believes you? Until you’ve been sexually assaulted, you get to shut up.”
He thought he was fucking hilarious. He’d earlier recited a provocative poem, which was very good, but deliberately offensive. My warning bells should have started ringing then.
sarahs mum said:
kii said:
I’ll leave now.
Go well. :) Hope things keep on improving. Don’t let the good ol boys get you down.
Ta. GOBs are everywhere. Mansplaining like their little egos are threatening to crash and burn.
Divine Angel said:
kii said:
Bubblecar said:Sounds like an unpleasant evening.
Well it was an eye opener, to typical male entitlement. I even had the barber “mansplain” to me a point I had mention (which showed I understood), so I kept saying – “I understand that.” He and his two workers sat a few rows behind the disabled woman who has been lobbying the city for years and they made rude impatient noises every time she spoke. I called them out on it. Then I suggested that some mediation happen between various parties because it sure seemed like stuff had been brewing for years.
Ha, yesterday at writers group, someone read their work and I commented that, as a feminist, it could be interpreted as part of the #metoo movement. A new member quipped to the woman next to him that “more than me too is us four.” I stood up so fast, I knocked my chair over.
“And you, sir, are the problem! I don’t suppose you’ve been sexually assaulted and forced to hide the truth due to shame? That no one believes you? Until you’ve been sexually assaulted, you get to shut up.”
He thought he was fucking hilarious. He’d earlier recited a provocative poem, which was very good, but deliberately offensive. My warning bells should have started ringing then.
You go girl.
Divine Angel said:
kii said:
Bubblecar said:Sounds like an unpleasant evening.
Well it was an eye opener, to typical male entitlement. I even had the barber “mansplain” to me a point I had mention (which showed I understood), so I kept saying – “I understand that.” He and his two workers sat a few rows behind the disabled woman who has been lobbying the city for years and they made rude impatient noises every time she spoke. I called them out on it. Then I suggested that some mediation happen between various parties because it sure seemed like stuff had been brewing for years.
Ha, yesterday at writers group, someone read their work and I commented that, as a feminist, it could be interpreted as part of the #metoo movement. A new member quipped to the woman next to him that “more than me too is us four.” I stood up so fast, I knocked my chair over.
“And you, sir, are the problem! I don’t suppose you’ve been sexually assaulted and forced to hide the truth due to shame? That no one believes you? Until you’ve been sexually assaulted, you get to shut up.”
He thought he was fucking hilarious. He’d earlier recited a provocative poem, which was very good, but deliberately offensive. My warning bells should have started ringing then.
Well good on you! I thought that feminists were a rare breed nowadays. Burnt my bloody bras for no reason if women today are dropping the ball.
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:Hello Lunchtimers. Hey anyone in Melbourne..have you got strong winds? VicEmergency seems to have a lot of trees down.
Nope.
Eucalypts are well known to drop branches on still, hot, days.
It seems to be trees down. I don’t think you could call today a still day. At least not here, nor where Awesome is. We’ve got hot gusty winds. And there are fires around Geelong and Ballarat.
That map looks pretty normal to me. Maybe a dozen tree jobs an hour (all clear now, FTR). Gusty winds from the N / W don’t usually hurt us.
I totally get the symbolism for burning bras. I kinda like bras. They do reduce bounce and make breasts look better under certain clothing. Just saying.
Divine Angel said:
kii said:
Bubblecar said:Sounds like an unpleasant evening.
Well it was an eye opener, to typical male entitlement. I even had the barber “mansplain” to me a point I had mention (which showed I understood), so I kept saying – “I understand that.” He and his two workers sat a few rows behind the disabled woman who has been lobbying the city for years and they made rude impatient noises every time she spoke. I called them out on it. Then I suggested that some mediation happen between various parties because it sure seemed like stuff had been brewing for years.
Ha, yesterday at writers group, someone read their work and I commented that, as a feminist, it could be interpreted as part of the #metoo movement. A new member quipped to the woman next to him that “more than me too is us four.” I stood up so fast, I knocked my chair over.
“And you, sir, are the problem! I don’t suppose you’ve been sexually assaulted and forced to hide the truth due to shame? That no one believes you? Until you’ve been sexually assaulted, you get to shut up.”
He thought he was fucking hilarious. He’d earlier recited a provocative poem, which was very good, but deliberately offensive. My warning bells should have started ringing then.
Struth.
The fact that women still talk to men is the best evidence I can find that sexuality is not ‘chosen’.
Divine Angel said:
I totally get the symbolism for burning bras. I kinda like bras. They do reduce bounce and make breasts look better under certain clothing. Just saying.
I don’t like bras. I have big tits and a bra seems to put lots of strain on my shoulders.

sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:
I totally get the symbolism for burning bras. I kinda like bras. They do reduce bounce and make breasts look better under certain clothing. Just saying.
I don’t like bras. I have big tits and a bra seems to put lots of strain on my shoulders.
Could bras be designed better ?
If the bras are designed properly then that strain should be minimized.
Its not just holding bosoms up, it also involves lateral horizontal force holding them in as well.
Maybe, I dont have boobs.
.turns air conditioner on.
People are complaining about the heat….
Bubblecar said:
That test would make more sense if a load on each ISP was factored in, and the load on each major network carrier etc.
Rule 303 said:
.turns air conditioner on.People are complaining about the heat….
If it gets over 25 here every local whines about how hot it is.
Rule 303 said:
.turns air conditioner on.People are complaining about the heat….
It unseasonally cool in Brissy today.
Bubblecar said:
ADSL here:

Tau.Neutrino said:
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:
I totally get the symbolism for burning bras. I kinda like bras. They do reduce bounce and make breasts look better under certain clothing. Just saying.
I don’t like bras. I have big tits and a bra seems to put lots of strain on my shoulders.
Could bras be designed better ?
If the bras are designed properly then that strain should be minimized.
Its not just holding bosoms up, it also involves lateral horizontal force holding them in as well.
Maybe, I dont have boobs.
Moss redesigned the bra

poikilotherm said:
Rule 303 said:
.turns air conditioner on.People are complaining about the heat….
If it gets over 25 here every local whines about how hot it is.
We have a very narrow range of comfort in external – And an even narrower range of safety of our internal – temperatures. Animals are better at this than humans.
Rule 303 said:
poikilotherm said:
Rule 303 said:
.turns air conditioner on.People are complaining about the heat….
If it gets over 25 here every local whines about how hot it is.
We have a very narrow range of comfort in external – And an even narrower range of safety of our internal – temperatures. Animals are better at this than humans.
We are animals. Just the added unfortunate ability to whinge instead of stfu and dealing with it.
AwesomeO said:
Bubblecar said:
Parcel of train stuff has just arrived from England, including that little Peckett locomotive.
Is it tiny, metal and intricate? Love that sort of gear.
It’s money better spent on a deposit for a house, that’s what it is! There i’ve said it…
poikilotherm said:
Rule 303 said:
poikilotherm said:If it gets over 25 here every local whines about how hot it is.
We have a very narrow range of comfort in external – And an even narrower range of safety of our internal – temperatures. Animals are better at this than humans.
We are animals. Just the added unfortunate ability to whinge instead of stfu and dealing with it.
Nah, really, most animals are better at controlling their internal temperature and have a much wider thermal comfort range than us. That’s why we need clothes and houses and air conditioning, while they’re perfectly happy to get on with the job outside.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/06/hawaiian-monk-seal-eel-stuck-up-nose-why

Witty Rejoinder said:
AwesomeO said:
Bubblecar said:
Parcel of train stuff has just arrived from England, including that little Peckett locomotive.
Is it tiny, metal and intricate? Love that sort of gear.
It’s money better spent on a deposit for a house, that’s what it is! There i’ve said it…
That advice has been given and rejected, along with working on a car license, he should be swanning around like toad of toad hall at the moment.
Hannah Gadsby unpacks debate about ‘good men’ in #MeToo speech at Hollywood Reporter event
Los Angeles she does not want to hear men “monologue about misogyny”. or what about women monologuing about misandry? or men monologuing abour misandry? or women monologuing about misogyny?Is sexual tension part of Misandry and Misogyny?
AwesomeO said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
AwesomeO said:Is it tiny, metal and intricate? Love that sort of gear.
It’s money better spent on a deposit for a house, that’s what it is! There i’ve said it…
That advice has been given and rejected, along with working on a car license, he should be swanning around like toad of toad hall at the moment.
I need somewhere to stay once I am released form Milbrook Rise I could stay with Bubblecar and help out and pay him some rent. I too like trains and we could dress up in our conductor uniforms, pants optional
Witty Rejoinder said:
AwesomeO said:
Bubblecar said:
Parcel of train stuff has just arrived from England, including that little Peckett locomotive.
Is it tiny, metal and intricate? Love that sort of gear.
It’s money better spent on a deposit for a house, that’s what it is! There i’ve said it…
How likely to you think it is that the car would qualify for a mortgage? I think it is close to a cruel statement. He is finding himself a little bit of quality car therapy.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
ADSL here:
Bubblecar, I would take a screen shot of those speeds together and send it in to your ISP.
Bubblecar said:
Is that iinet’s “official” speed test?
sarahs mum said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
AwesomeO said:Is it tiny, metal and intricate? Love that sort of gear.
It’s money better spent on a deposit for a house, that’s what it is! There i’ve said it…
How likely to you think it is that the car would qualify for a mortgage? I think it is close to a cruel statement. He is finding himself a little bit of quality car therapy.
Unlikely I imagine
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
kii said:Well it was an eye opener, to typical male entitlement. I even had the barber “mansplain” to me a point I had mention (which showed I understood), so I kept saying – “I understand that.” He and his two workers sat a few rows behind the disabled woman who has been lobbying the city for years and they made rude impatient noises every time she spoke. I called them out on it. Then I suggested that some mediation happen between various parties because it sure seemed like stuff had been brewing for years.
Ha, yesterday at writers group, someone read their work and I commented that, as a feminist, it could be interpreted as part of the #metoo movement. A new member quipped to the woman next to him that “more than me too is us four.” I stood up so fast, I knocked my chair over.
“And you, sir, are the problem! I don’t suppose you’ve been sexually assaulted and forced to hide the truth due to shame? That no one believes you? Until you’ve been sexually assaulted, you get to shut up.”
He thought he was fucking hilarious. He’d earlier recited a provocative poem, which was very good, but deliberately offensive. My warning bells should have started ringing then.
Struth.
The fact that women still talk to men is the best evidence I can find that sexuality is not ‘chosen’.
There are good guys out there.
Anyway I’ve just been on the phone to iinet. I had to call them to ask why my main email address no longer works and apparently it was hacked or suchlike, but they’ve now reinstalled it with a new password.
He asked if there were any other problems and I told him my internet is much slower since my move from around the corner. He then did something or other which he claimed would speed it up a little, so I’ll test speed again in a moment. He also asked if I’m on the 2.4ghz or 5ghz wifi settings, but I don’t know.
Not sure where I can check such matters.
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:Ha, yesterday at writers group, someone read their work and I commented that, as a feminist, it could be interpreted as part of the #metoo movement. A new member quipped to the woman next to him that “more than me too is us four.” I stood up so fast, I knocked my chair over.
“And you, sir, are the problem! I don’t suppose you’ve been sexually assaulted and forced to hide the truth due to shame? That no one believes you? Until you’ve been sexually assaulted, you get to shut up.”
He thought he was fucking hilarious. He’d earlier recited a provocative poem, which was very good, but deliberately offensive. My warning bells should have started ringing then.
Struth.
The fact that women still talk to men is the best evidence I can find that sexuality is not ‘chosen’.
There are good guys out there.
One does feel shame for how some men act and have acted through the ages, especially the victims of war
Hmm, slower download now but apparently I’m slower than a smaller % of Australia than last time…

Bubblecar said:
Anyway I’ve just been on the phone to iinet. I had to call them to ask why my main email address no longer works and apparently it was hacked or suchlike, but they’ve now reinstalled it with a new password.He asked if there were any other problems and I told him my internet is much slower since my move from around the corner. He then did something or other which he claimed would speed it up a little, so I’ll test speed again in a moment. He also asked if I’m on the 2.4ghz or 5ghz wifi settings, but I don’t know.
Not sure where I can check such matters.
Possibly log into the modem router itself, iiNet webpage tell you how.
How do I access my iinet router?
On a computer or device that’s connected to your modem via Ethernet or WiFi, open your web browser. Type the default gateway address into the address bar and then hit the Enter key on your keyboard. For modems purchased from iiNet, this address is typically http://10.1.1.1 or http://192.168.1.1.
Browsing to the Default Gateway for your Modem – iiHelp – iiNet
https://iihelp.iinet.net.au/Browsing_to_the_Default_Gateway_for_your_Modem
Cymek said:
Bubblecar said:
Anyway I’ve just been on the phone to iinet. I had to call them to ask why my main email address no longer works and apparently it was hacked or suchlike, but they’ve now reinstalled it with a new password.He asked if there were any other problems and I told him my internet is much slower since my move from around the corner. He then did something or other which he claimed would speed it up a little, so I’ll test speed again in a moment. He also asked if I’m on the 2.4ghz or 5ghz wifi settings, but I don’t know.
Not sure where I can check such matters.
Possibly log into the modem router itself, iiNet webpage tell you how.
How do I access my iinet router?
On a computer or device that’s connected to your modem via Ethernet or WiFi, open your web browser. Type the default gateway address into the address bar and then hit the Enter key on your keyboard. For modems purchased from iiNet, this address is typically http://10.1.1.1 or http://192.168.1.1.
Browsing to the Default Gateway for your Modem – iiHelp – iiNet
https://iihelp.iinet.net.au/Browsing_to_the_Default_Gateway_for_your_Modem
STOP.
Last time he got into the bowels of the internet he shut down the east coast for a day.
Woolworths denies unleashing an ‘army of trolls’ on complainers
https://thenewdaily.com.au/money/consumer/2018/12/06/woolworths-social-media/?fbclid=IwAR2tSxUuNKQIR4IbCypYCiPhpfJB0a738q_MYZpuzFstO-TdTG3cnNyhI1M
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a small group of trolls?
sarahs mum said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
AwesomeO said:Is it tiny, metal and intricate? Love that sort of gear.
It’s money better spent on a deposit for a house, that’s what it is! There i’ve said it…
How likely to you think it is that the car would qualify for a mortgage? I think it is close to a cruel statement. He is finding himself a little bit of quality car therapy.
That parcel of train stuff cost about £100 ($180). Maybe in Moldova one can get a house with that size of deposit….
Bubblecar said:
Hmm, slower download now but apparently I’m slower than a smaller % of Australia than last time…
Do you have a line filter for your setup ?
Without going the IT crowd switching the router off and on a few minutes later can help
Cymek said:
Bubblecar said:
Anyway I’ve just been on the phone to iinet. I had to call them to ask why my main email address no longer works and apparently it was hacked or suchlike, but they’ve now reinstalled it with a new password.He asked if there were any other problems and I told him my internet is much slower since my move from around the corner. He then did something or other which he claimed would speed it up a little, so I’ll test speed again in a moment. He also asked if I’m on the 2.4ghz or 5ghz wifi settings, but I don’t know.
Not sure where I can check such matters.
Possibly log into the modem router itself, iiNet webpage tell you how.
How do I access my iinet router?
On a computer or device that’s connected to your modem via Ethernet or WiFi, open your web browser. Type the default gateway address into the address bar and then hit the Enter key on your keyboard. For modems purchased from iiNet, this address is typically http://10.1.1.1 or http://192.168.1.1.
Browsing to the Default Gateway for your Modem – iiHelp – iiNet
https://iihelp.iinet.net.au/Browsing_to_the_Default_Gateway_for_your_Modem
Ta. I did that and both the 2.4 and 5ghz are “enabled”, but it doesn’t tell me which one I’m actually using.
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:Ha, yesterday at writers group, someone read their work and I commented that, as a feminist, it could be interpreted as part of the #metoo movement. A new member quipped to the woman next to him that “more than me too is us four.” I stood up so fast, I knocked my chair over.
“And you, sir, are the problem! I don’t suppose you’ve been sexually assaulted and forced to hide the truth due to shame? That no one believes you? Until you’ve been sexually assaulted, you get to shut up.”
He thought he was fucking hilarious. He’d earlier recited a provocative poem, which was very good, but deliberately offensive. My warning bells should have started ringing then.
Struth.
The fact that women still talk to men is the best evidence I can find that sexuality is not ‘chosen’.
There are good guys out there.
I don’t know.
sarahs mum said:
Woolworths denies unleashing an ‘army of trolls’ on complainershttps://thenewdaily.com.au/money/consumer/2018/12/06/woolworths-social-media/?fbclid=IwAR2tSxUuNKQIR4IbCypYCiPhpfJB0a738q_MYZpuzFstO-TdTG3cnNyhI1M
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a small group of trolls?
A posse?
Rule 303 said:
poikilotherm said:
Rule 303 said:We have a very narrow range of comfort in external – And an even narrower range of safety of our internal – temperatures. Animals are better at this than humans.
We are animals. Just the added unfortunate ability to whinge instead of stfu and dealing with it.
Nah, really, most animals are better at controlling their internal temperature and have a much wider thermal comfort range than us. That’s why we need clothes and houses and air conditioning, while they’re perfectly happy to get on with the job outside.
I don’t think it’s that general, some animals can tolerate a wide temperature range, some can’t.
Bubblecar said:
Cymek said:
Bubblecar said:
Anyway I’ve just been on the phone to iinet. I had to call them to ask why my main email address no longer works and apparently it was hacked or suchlike, but they’ve now reinstalled it with a new password.He asked if there were any other problems and I told him my internet is much slower since my move from around the corner. He then did something or other which he claimed would speed it up a little, so I’ll test speed again in a moment. He also asked if I’m on the 2.4ghz or 5ghz wifi settings, but I don’t know.
Not sure where I can check such matters.
Possibly log into the modem router itself, iiNet webpage tell you how.
How do I access my iinet router?
On a computer or device that’s connected to your modem via Ethernet or WiFi, open your web browser. Type the default gateway address into the address bar and then hit the Enter key on your keyboard. For modems purchased from iiNet, this address is typically http://10.1.1.1 or http://192.168.1.1.
Browsing to the Default Gateway for your Modem – iiHelp – iiNet
https://iihelp.iinet.net.au/Browsing_to_the_Default_Gateway_for_your_Modem
Ta. I did that and both the 2.4 and 5ghz are “enabled”, but it doesn’t tell me which one I’m actually using.
Maybe if I turn the slower one OFF I’ll be sure I’m using the faster one. But that might break the internet…
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Cymek said:Possibly log into the modem router itself, iiNet webpage tell you how.
How do I access my iinet router?
On a computer or device that’s connected to your modem via Ethernet or WiFi, open your web browser. Type the default gateway address into the address bar and then hit the Enter key on your keyboard. For modems purchased from iiNet, this address is typically http://10.1.1.1 or http://192.168.1.1.
Browsing to the Default Gateway for your Modem – iiHelp – iiNet
https://iihelp.iinet.net.au/Browsing_to_the_Default_Gateway_for_your_Modem
Ta. I did that and both the 2.4 and 5ghz are “enabled”, but it doesn’t tell me which one I’m actually using.
Maybe if I turn the slower one OFF I’ll be sure I’m using the faster one. But that might break the internet…
Careful here, 5Ghz is faster if your computer is close to the router, if not, it’s no good. 2.4ghz is good if you’re not near the router but not quite as fast.
Although, you wouldn’t notice with the internet speeds you’re getting.
Witty Rejoinder said:
AwesomeO said:
Bubblecar said:
Parcel of train stuff has just arrived from England, including that little Peckett locomotive.
Is it tiny, metal and intricate? Love that sort of gear.
It’s money better spent on a deposit for a house, that’s what it is! There i’ve said it…
It’s the aussie meme, buy a house.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Cymek said:Possibly log into the modem router itself, iiNet webpage tell you how.
How do I access my iinet router?
On a computer or device that’s connected to your modem via Ethernet or WiFi, open your web browser. Type the default gateway address into the address bar and then hit the Enter key on your keyboard. For modems purchased from iiNet, this address is typically http://10.1.1.1 or http://192.168.1.1.
Browsing to the Default Gateway for your Modem – iiHelp – iiNet
https://iihelp.iinet.net.au/Browsing_to_the_Default_Gateway_for_your_Modem
Ta. I did that and both the 2.4 and 5ghz are “enabled”, but it doesn’t tell me which one I’m actually using.
Maybe if I turn the slower one OFF I’ll be sure I’m using the faster one. But that might break the internet…
Maybe try switching off one of them and run the test again. Then try the other. If no improvement then go back to how you had it before and tell iiNet you tried both options and it made no difference.
shrugs
poikilotherm said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:Ta. I did that and both the 2.4 and 5ghz are “enabled”, but it doesn’t tell me which one I’m actually using.
Maybe if I turn the slower one OFF I’ll be sure I’m using the faster one. But that might break the internet…
Careful here, 5Ghz is faster if your computer is close to the router, if not, it’s no good. 2.4ghz is good if you’re not near the router but not quite as fast.
Although, you wouldn’t notice with the internet speeds you’re getting.
My computer is about 10 metres or so from the router.
poikilotherm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
AwesomeO said:Is it tiny, metal and intricate? Love that sort of gear.
It’s money better spent on a deposit for a house, that’s what it is! There i’ve said it…
It’s the aussie meme, buy a house.
I’ll choose A Eddy, lock in debt for 30 years
Bubblecar said:
poikilotherm said:
Bubblecar said:Maybe if I turn the slower one OFF I’ll be sure I’m using the faster one. But that might break the internet…
Careful here, 5Ghz is faster if your computer is close to the router, if not, it’s no good. 2.4ghz is good if you’re not near the router but not quite as fast.
Although, you wouldn’t notice with the internet speeds you’re getting.
My computer is about 10 metres or so from the router.
The difference in quoted speeds between the2.4 and 5 is 26Mbps vs 1300Mbps.
Bubblecar said:
poikilotherm said:
Bubblecar said:Maybe if I turn the slower one OFF I’ll be sure I’m using the faster one. But that might break the internet…
Careful here, 5Ghz is faster if your computer is close to the router, if not, it’s no good. 2.4ghz is good if you’re not near the router but not quite as fast.
Although, you wouldn’t notice with the internet speeds you’re getting.
My computer is about 10 metres or so from the router.
Might be ok, only way to know is to test.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:Ta. I did that and both the 2.4 and 5ghz are “enabled”, but it doesn’t tell me which one I’m actually using.
Maybe if I turn the slower one OFF I’ll be sure I’m using the faster one. But that might break the internet…
Maybe try switching off one of them and run the test again. Then try the other. If no improvement then go back to how you had it before and tell iiNet you tried both options and it made no difference.
shrugs
OK I’ll turn the slow one off and see what happens.
poikilotherm said:
Bubblecar said:
poikilotherm said:Careful here, 5Ghz is faster if your computer is close to the router, if not, it’s no good. 2.4ghz is good if you’re not near the router but not quite as fast.
Although, you wouldn’t notice with the internet speeds you’re getting.
My computer is about 10 metres or so from the router.
Might be ok, only way to know is to test.
Could use a LAN cable if you have one and turn off wireless and see if that’s any better and if it is it means the wireless signal isn’t good
out farm earlier
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:Maybe if I turn the slower one OFF I’ll be sure I’m using the faster one. But that might break the internet…
Maybe try switching off one of them and run the test again. Then try the other. If no improvement then go back to how you had it before and tell iiNet you tried both options and it made no difference.
shrugs
OK I’ll turn the slow one off and see what happens.
saves everything
Holyrood votes decisively against Theresa May’s Brexit
https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/politics/scottish-politics/779633/holyrood-votes-decisively-against-theresa-mays-brexit/?fbclid=IwAR0XeP_JxF6m5xxSEBTJ2×2OtyOPNzLRNSZMXjK3CqA3yFZ0_CQLFj8HrWA
Need to find a new Fish & Chip shop. The old one does real good food, but they had a staff turnover a couple of months ago and have been fucking up our weekly order without fail since.
Or get a new router modem, they can wear out.
Rule 303 said:
Need to find a new Fish & Chip shop. The old one does real good food, but they had a staff turnover a couple of months ago and have been fucking up our weekly order without fail since.
How do you mess up Fish n Chips orders
Tau.Neutrino said:
Or get a new router modem, they can wear out.
Get moll to take a look at it
Archaeologists have accused Highways England of accidentally drilling a large hole through a 6,000-year-old structure near Stonehenge during preparatory work for a tunnel.
The drilling, which is alleged to have taken place at Blick Mead, around a mile and a half from the world-famous neolithic ring of stones, has enraged archaeologists, who say engineers have dug a three-metre-deep hole (10ft) through a man-made platform of flint and animal bone.
Highways England have said they are not aware of any damage to archaeological layers on the site caused by their work and will meet with the archaeological team on Thursday, led by David Jacques, a senior research fellow at the University of Buckingham.
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Before the drilling incidents, archaeologists were concerned that the construction of a tunnel and a flyover near the site will cause the water table to drop, damaging remains preserved in water-logged ground. The Highways Agency agreed to monitor water levels as part of the project.
The 6,000-year-old platform through which a hole has been drilled preserved the hoof prints of an aurochs, giant prehistoric cattle that are now extinct.
Jacques said: “This is a travesty. We took great care to excavate this platform and the aurochs’ hoofprints. We believe hunters considered this area to be a sacred place even before Stonehenge. These monster cows – double the size of normal cattle – provided food for 300 people, so were revered.
“It the tunnel goes ahead the water table will drop and all the organic remains will be destroyed. It may be that there are footprints here which would be the earliest tangible signs of life at Stonehenge. If the remains aren’t preserved we may never be able to understand why Stonehenge was built.”
Blick Mead is part of the Stonehenge and Avebury Unesco world heritage. A Highways England spokesperson said: “We are not aware of any damage being caused to archaeological layers. We notified Prof David Jacques of the locations of our water table monitoring, and have adhered to guidelines in carrying out the work. We have also kept Prof Jacques informed and we will be meeting him on site .
“Our assessments so far indicate that construction of the scheme will have no significant effects on the Blick Mead area, and we are undertaking this further hydrogeological investigation.
“The works have been undertaken in a highly professional manner, with an archaeologist on site and with due care being exercised at all times.”
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/dec/06/ancient-platform-damaged-during-stonehenge-tunnel-work?CMP=fb_gu&fbclid=IwAR3AqrxaaTQwgP4lZ0HKyF4F9vk3IpGigXR7-fkfR1k2baqFZcyZm1-lxo4
Cymek said:
Rule 303 said:
Need to find a new Fish & Chip shop. The old one does real good food, but they had a staff turnover a couple of months ago and have been fucking up our weekly order without fail since.
How do you mess up Fish n Chips orders
You would be astonished at the ways….
Rule 303 said:
Need to find a new Fish & Chip shop. The old one does real good food, but they had a staff turnover a couple of months ago and have been fucking up our weekly order without fail since.
make them up wrap it in front of you so you can check
that might change things.
sarahs mum said:
Holyrood votes decisively against Theresa May’s Brexithttps://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/politics/scottish-politics/779633/holyrood-votes-decisively-against-theresa-mays-brexit/?fbclid=IwAR0XeP_JxF6m5xxSEBTJ2×2OtyOPNzLRNSZMXjK3CqA3yFZ0_CQLFj8HrWA
Don’t walk away T. May
You won’t see me follow you back home
The empty sidewalks on my block are not the same
You’re not to blame
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
Holyrood votes decisively against Theresa May’s Brexithttps://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/politics/scottish-politics/779633/holyrood-votes-decisively-against-theresa-mays-brexit/?fbclid=IwAR0XeP_JxF6m5xxSEBTJ2×2OtyOPNzLRNSZMXjK3CqA3yFZ0_CQLFj8HrWA
Don’t walk away T. May
You won’t see me follow you back home
The empty sidewalks on my block are not the same
You’re not to blame
What do they want to do say in, leave or both?
and why is it taking so long ?
Maybe its some sort of way to market and promote themselves in the media?
Tau.Neutrino said:
Rule 303 said:
Need to find a new Fish & Chip shop. The old one does real good food, but they had a staff turnover a couple of months ago and have been fucking up our weekly order without fail since.
make them up wrap it in front of you so you can check
that might change things.
Not if they’re already given it somebody else, produced it half an hour late, run out of ingredients, failed to write it down properly or forgotten to cook part of the order.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
Holyrood votes decisively against Theresa May’s Brexithttps://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/politics/scottish-politics/779633/holyrood-votes-decisively-against-theresa-mays-brexit/?fbclid=IwAR0XeP_JxF6m5xxSEBTJ2×2OtyOPNzLRNSZMXjK3CqA3yFZ0_CQLFj8HrWA
Don’t walk away T. May
You won’t see me follow you back home
The empty sidewalks on my block are not the same
You’re not to blame
What do they want to do say in, leave or both?
and why is it taking so long ?
Maybe its some sort of way to market and promote themselves in the media?
Maybe they dont know what to do, and they are generating all this confusion to hide the fact.
bit like Trump and his fake confusion hiding his mess.
Rule 303 said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Rule 303 said:
Need to find a new Fish & Chip shop. The old one does real good food, but they had a staff turnover a couple of months ago and have been fucking up our weekly order without fail since.
make them up wrap it in front of you so you can check
that might change things.
Not if they’re already given it somebody else, produced it half an hour late, run out of ingredients, failed to write it down properly or forgotten to cook part of the order.
Still it will be embarrassing for each order that they get wrong.
Rule 303 said:
Need to find a new Fish & Chip shop. The old one does real good food, but they had a staff turnover a couple of months ago and have been fucking up our weekly order without fail since.
Worse than Hitler chips are, according to some Harvard nutritionist.
poikilotherm said:
Rule 303 said:
Need to find a new Fish & Chip shop. The old one does real good food, but they had a staff turnover a couple of months ago and have been fucking up our weekly order without fail since.
Worse than Hitler chips are, according to some Harvard nutritionist.
The scrawny ones cooked with outdated/overused fat / oil.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Rule 303 said:
Tau.Neutrino said:make them up wrap it in front of you so you can check
that might change things.
Not if they’re already given it somebody else, produced it half an hour late, run out of ingredients, failed to write it down properly or forgotten to cook part of the order.
Still it will be embarrassing for each order that they get wrong.
They’re 6/6 in the last six weeks. I suspect it’s every order, because they seem to have suffered a huge drop off in business.
poikilotherm said:
Rule 303 said:
Need to find a new Fish & Chip shop. The old one does real good food, but they had a staff turnover a couple of months ago and have been fucking up our weekly order without fail since.
Worse than Hitler chips are, according to some Harvard nutritionist.
There is no safe level of exposure to chips…
Rule 303 said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Rule 303 said:Not if they’re already given it somebody else, produced it half an hour late, run out of ingredients, failed to write it down properly or forgotten to cook part of the order.
Still it will be embarrassing for each order that they get wrong.
They’re 6/6 in the last six weeks. I suspect it’s every order, because they seem to have suffered a huge drop off in business.
They need a new numbering / verifying the order system
poikilotherm said:
Rule 303 said:
Need to find a new Fish & Chip shop. The old one does real good food, but they had a staff turnover a couple of months ago and have been fucking up our weekly order without fail since.
Worse than Hitler chips…
Mmmmmmm Hitler chips…..drool.
poikilotherm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
AwesomeO said:Is it tiny, metal and intricate? Love that sort of gear.
It’s money better spent on a deposit for a house, that’s what it is! There i’ve said it…
It’s the aussie meme, buy a house.
One you’ve taken advantage of so i don’t know what your point is especially given i can’t imagine you would prefer to be back in Sefrica.
Special counsel Robert Mueller’s long-running Russia probe could be nearing its end game
I wonder how many documents and word counts Trumps problems will add up to?
Tau.Neutrino said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
Holyrood votes decisively against Theresa May’s Brexithttps://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/politics/scottish-politics/779633/holyrood-votes-decisively-against-theresa-mays-brexit/?fbclid=IwAR0XeP_JxF6m5xxSEBTJ2×2OtyOPNzLRNSZMXjK3CqA3yFZ0_CQLFj8HrWA
Don’t walk away T. May
You won’t see me follow you back home
The empty sidewalks on my block are not the same
You’re not to blame
What do they want to do say in, leave or both?
and why is it taking so long ?
Maybe its some sort of way to market and promote themselves in the media?
Holyrood is the Scottish Parliament. The Scots voted to stay. And they are still voting that way.
https://www.facebook.com/uniladmag/videos/vb.146505212039213/1936621876647434/?type=2&theater
Tau.Neutrino said:
Rule 303 said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Still it will be embarrassing for each order that they get wrong.
They’re 6/6 in the last six weeks. I suspect it’s every order, because they seem to have suffered a huge drop off in business.
They need a new
numbering / verifying the ordereverything system
Fixed.
Bogsnorkler said:
poikilotherm said:
Rule 303 said:
Need to find a new Fish & Chip shop. The old one does real good food, but they had a staff turnover a couple of months ago and have been fucking up our weekly order without fail since.
Worse than Hitler chips…
Mmmmmmm Hitler chips…..drool.
You could make chips into various patterns.
I find mostly they are straight ones which are usually ok or the scrawny ones which you want to throw out.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Special counsel Robert Mueller’s long-running Russia probe could be nearing its end gameI wonder how many documents and word counts Trumps problems will add up to?
at least 7 documents, with at least 7 words each.
party_pants said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Special counsel Robert Mueller’s long-running Russia probe could be nearing its end gameI wonder how many documents and word counts Trumps problems will add up to?
at least 7 documents, with at least 7 words each.
And 59,000 pages of blacked out stuff.
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Special counsel Robert Mueller’s long-running Russia probe could be nearing its end gameI wonder how many documents and word counts Trumps problems will add up to?
at least 7 documents, with at least 7 words each.
And 59,000 pages of blacked out stuff.
It must be something like that.
.
The White House must have word meter of some kind.
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Special counsel Robert Mueller’s long-running Russia probe could be nearing its end gameI wonder how many documents and word counts Trumps problems will add up to?
at least 7 documents, with at least 7 words each.
And 59,000 pages of blacked out stuff.
Shouldn’t you be packing.
I think part of Trumps strategy is overall confusion, fake news, and sacking people at regular intervals so one one gets a clear picture of whats going on.
Tau.Neutrino said:
I think part of Trumps strategy is overall confusion, fake news, and sacking people at regular intervals so one one gets a clear picture of whats going on.
Looting the White House
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:It’s money better spent on a deposit for a house, that’s what it is! There i’ve said it…
It’s the aussie meme, buy a house.
One you’ve taken advantage of so i don’t know what your point is especially given i can’t imagine you would prefer to be back in Sefrica.
Sure, but I don’t go around pontificating to every tom dick and bubblecar they too should jump on board.
I was born here so not sure of the sefrica reference.
Tau.Neutrino said:
I think part of Trumps strategy is overall confusion, fake news, and sacking people at regular intervals so one one gets a clear picture of whats going on.
I don’t think he is clever enough to have an overall strategy.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:at least 7 documents, with at least 7 words each.
And 59,000 pages of blacked out stuff.
Shouldn’t you be packing.
I’m ticking things off my list. I’m mostly packed. Still need to make the bed for the house sitter, put the garbage out, charge the camera, wash my hair, and water the plants on the verandah and plant rack. And find a nail file. And wrap some prints to put in the mail when I come across a post office.
Cymek said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
I think part of Trumps strategy is overall confusion, fake news, and sacking people at regular intervals so one one gets a clear picture of whats going on.Looting the White House
Hasn’t been done since the Clintons.
poikilotherm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:It’s the aussie meme, buy a house.
One you’ve taken advantage of so i don’t know what your point is especially given i can’t imagine you would prefer to be back in Sefrica.
Sure, but I don’t go around pontificating to every tom dick and bubblecar they too should jump on board.
poikilotherm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:It’s the aussie meme, buy a house.
One you’ve taken advantage of so i don’t know what your point is especially given i can’t imagine you would prefer to be back in Sefrica.
Sure, but I don’t go around pontificating to every tom dick and bubblecar they too should jump on board.
I was born here so not sure of the sefrica reference.
narrows eyes
Have I missed something all these years, is poik a jarpie?
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:One you’ve taken advantage of so i don’t know what your point is especially given i can’t imagine you would prefer to be back in Sefrica.
Sure, but I don’t go around pontificating to every tom dick and bubblecar they too should jump on board.
Sympathy doesn’t solve Car’s problem one iota. Anyway i’ve said my bit.
Not sure where the sympathy was in my post but ok. Also, I don’t know the cars financial situation which would seem somewhat useful if you’re suggesting getting into 6 figures or so of debt but hey…you’ve said your bit.

poikilotherm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:Sure, but I don’t go around pontificating to every tom dick and bubblecar they too should jump on board.
Sympathy doesn’t solve Car’s problem one iota. Anyway i’ve said my bit.Not sure where the sympathy was in my post but ok. Also, I don’t know the cars financial situation which would seem somewhat useful if you’re suggesting getting into 6 figures or so of debt but hey…you’ve said your bit.
poikilotherm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:It’s the aussie meme, buy a house.
I was born here so not sure of the sefrica reference.
Sorry. Your condescending attitude towards your fellow countrymen made me think you were a blow-in. My bad.
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:Maybe if I turn the slower one OFF I’ll be sure I’m using the faster one. But that might break the internet…
Maybe try switching off one of them and run the test again. Then try the other. If no improvement then go back to how you had it before and tell iiNet you tried both options and it made no difference.
shrugs
OK I’ll turn the slow one off and see what happens.
OK SO WHICH IDIOT TOLD ME THIS WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA?
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:Maybe try switching off one of them and run the test again. Then try the other. If no improvement then go back to how you had it before and tell iiNet you tried both options and it made no difference.
shrugs
OK I’ll turn the slow one off and see what happens.
OK SO WHICH IDIOT TOLD ME THIS WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA?
Witty probably.
poikilotherm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:Sure, but I don’t go around pontificating to every tom dick and bubblecar they too should jump on board.
Sympathy doesn’t solve Car’s problem one iota. Anyway i’ve said my bit.Not sure where the sympathy was in my post but ok. Also, I don’t know the cars financial situation which would seem somewhat useful if you’re suggesting getting into 6 figures or so of debt but hey…you’ve said your bit.
Well he’s obviously not living on the dole…
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:Maybe try switching off one of them and run the test again. Then try the other. If no improvement then go back to how you had it before and tell iiNet you tried both options and it made no difference.
shrugs
OK I’ll turn the slow one off and see what happens.
OK SO WHICH IDIOT TOLD ME THIS WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA?
it must have been sibeen.
It seems my computer is not equipped to handle the 5Ghz Wifi. So when I turned off the slower one, I lost the internet and lost contact with the modem so I couldn’t turn it back on again.
It was looking like my only option was to disconnect the entire desktop machine and shift it into the living room so I could plug it in via ethernet.
But then I remembered I had this very long phone cable packed away somewhere so I found that and brought the modem in here.
Now I have to try reconnecting the slower Wifi.
sarahs mum said:
Interesting counterpoint.
:)
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:OK I’ll turn the slow one off and see what happens.
OK SO WHICH IDIOT TOLD ME THIS WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA?
it must have been sibeen.
I’ve looked back through the posts, and i can say that it was not this idiot.
Bubblecar said:
It seems my computer is not equipped to handle the 5Ghz Wifi. So when I turned off the slower one, I lost the internet and lost contact with the modem so I couldn’t turn it back on again.It was looking like my only option was to disconnect the entire desktop machine and shift it into the living room so I could plug it in via ethernet.
But then I remembered I had this very long phone cable packed away somewhere so I found that and brought the modem in here.
Now I have to try reconnecting the slower Wifi.
try a speed test with the cable in.
Bubblecar said:
It seems my computer is not equipped to handle the 5Ghz Wifi. So when I turned off the slower one, I lost the internet and lost contact with the modem so I couldn’t turn it back on again.It was looking like my only option was to disconnect the entire desktop machine and shift it into the living room so I could plug it in via ethernet.
But then I remembered I had this very long phone cable packed away somewhere so I found that and brought the modem in here.
Now I have to try reconnecting the slower Wifi.
DONE. Jesus wept, what a to-do.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
It seems my computer is not equipped to handle the 5Ghz Wifi. So when I turned off the slower one, I lost the internet and lost contact with the modem so I couldn’t turn it back on again.It was looking like my only option was to disconnect the entire desktop machine and shift it into the living room so I could plug it in via ethernet.
But then I remembered I had this very long phone cable packed away somewhere so I found that and brought the modem in here.
Now I have to try reconnecting the slower Wifi.
try a speed test with the cable in.
^this. but make it the ethernet cable.
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
It seems my computer is not equipped to handle the 5Ghz Wifi. So when I turned off the slower one, I lost the internet and lost contact with the modem so I couldn’t turn it back on again.It was looking like my only option was to disconnect the entire desktop machine and shift it into the living room so I could plug it in via ethernet.
But then I remembered I had this very long phone cable packed away somewhere so I found that and brought the modem in here.
Now I have to try reconnecting the slower Wifi.
try a speed test with the cable in.
^this. but make it the ethernet cable.
Wow…

Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
It seems my computer is not equipped to handle the 5Ghz Wifi. So when I turned off the slower one, I lost the internet and lost contact with the modem so I couldn’t turn it back on again.It was looking like my only option was to disconnect the entire desktop machine and shift it into the living room so I could plug it in via ethernet.
But then I remembered I had this very long phone cable packed away somewhere so I found that and brought the modem in here.
Now I have to try reconnecting the slower Wifi.
try a speed test with the cable in.
^this. but make it the ethernet cable.
that’s what I meant, test the speed with ethernet cable, just to make sure you’ve covered off that possibility for when you ring iiNet again.
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:It’s the aussie meme, buy a house.
I was born here so not sure of the sefrica reference.
Sorry. Your condescending attitude towards your fellow countrymen made me think you were a blow-in. My bad.
Does he do that ?
You are allowed to call out morons for being morons
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Interesting counterpoint.
:)
In her solo show Extra, Adrienne Doig stitched herself into reproductions of the Bayeux Tapestry. This cheeky act of historical revision highlights the fact that in all propaganda, as in all histories, the officially sanctioned version is never the whole story.
Woven reproductions of fragments of the Bayeux Tapestry are readily available for purchase online. In Extra, Doig added images of herself to 13 of these ‘found objects’ by using both appliqué and embroidery techniques. In addition, she took further ownership of each scene by adding her own embellishments, such as giving the soldiers striped socks in bold colours, adding swatches of polka- dotted and striped fabric in red and blue to the already decorative borders, and stitching the truncated phrases of tweeting and texting – YOLO, ORLY, SOZ, et. al – alongside the pre-existing Latin text.
more//
https://artguide.com.au/extra?fbclid=IwAR07kl_pNQ9ckykup5w_6eBFHolEePQQLrj7IlHy1YeKMZ3yVgxN1KdH2Fw
Rule 303 said:
Need to find a new Fish & Chip shop. The old one does real good food, but they had a staff turnover a couple of months ago and have been fucking up our weekly order without fail since.
Good luck with that. Some are excellent, but …
I had one that claimed authentic old-style fish and chips. I would get sick afterwards. Finally twigged that they were using salt with a high MgCl2 content, and sickening SO4 content.
Bubblecar said:
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:try a speed test with the cable in.
^this. but make it the ethernet cable.
Wow…
So the wifi could be playing up
mollwollfumble said:
Rule 303 said:
Need to find a new Fish & Chip shop. The old one does real good food, but they had a staff turnover a couple of months ago and have been fucking up our weekly order without fail since.
Good luck with that. Some are excellent, but …
I had one that claimed authentic old-style fish and chips. I would get sick afterwards. Finally twigged that they were using salt with a high MgCl2 content, and sickening SO4 content.
The type of oil can make them taste strange and give you gut aches
sarahs mum said:
Postmodernism.
Cymek said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:I was born here so not sure of the sefrica reference.
Sorry. Your condescending attitude towards your fellow countrymen made me think you were a blow-in. My bad.
Does he do that ?
You are allowed to call out morons for being morons
Poiky seem to think most Australians are morons then IME.
mollwollfumble said:
sarahs mum said:
Postmodernism.
Wrong century eh.
Cymek said:
mollwollfumble said:
Rule 303 said:
Need to find a new Fish & Chip shop. The old one does real good food, but they had a staff turnover a couple of months ago and have been fucking up our weekly order without fail since.
Good luck with that. Some are excellent, but …
I had one that claimed authentic old-style fish and chips. I would get sick afterwards. Finally twigged that they were using salt with a high MgCl2 content, and sickening SO4 content.
The type of oil can make them taste strange and give you gut aches
Yes. That too.
Bubblecar said:
Wow…
Trouble is…
a) Keeping the modem in here means having a phone line stretched across the floors of the hallway, living room and entrance to the kitchen, looking ugly and causing inevitable trip-ups.
b) The long phone line I’m currently using is only just long enough and involves lots of over-stretched cables to the modem, pooter & power point.
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Interesting counterpoint.
:)
In her solo show Extra, Adrienne Doig stitched herself into reproductions of the Bayeux Tapestry. This cheeky act of historical revision highlights the fact that in all propaganda, as in all histories, the officially sanctioned version is never the whole story.
Woven reproductions of fragments of the Bayeux Tapestry are readily available for purchase online. In Extra, Doig added images of herself to 13 of these ‘found objects’ by using both appliqué and embroidery techniques. In addition, she took further ownership of each scene by adding her own embellishments, such as giving the soldiers striped socks in bold colours, adding swatches of polka- dotted and striped fabric in red and blue to the already decorative borders, and stitching the truncated phrases of tweeting and texting – YOLO, ORLY, SOZ, et. al – alongside the pre-existing Latin text.
more//
https://artguide.com.au/extra?fbclid=IwAR07kl_pNQ9ckykup5w_6eBFHolEePQQLrj7IlHy1YeKMZ3yVgxN1KdH2Fw
:)
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Wow…
Trouble is…
a) Keeping the modem in here means having a phone line stretched across the floors of the hallway, living room and entrance to the kitchen, looking ugly and causing inevitable trip-ups.
b) The long phone line I’m currently using is only just long enough and involves lots of over-stretched cables to the modem, pooter & power point.
You could order a new modem from iiNet that way it would or should already be set up with your password and username
mollwollfumble said:
sarahs mum said:
Postmodernism.
Perhaps post postmodernism. The boffins think we are there but they are not sure what it means yet.
mollwollfumble said:
Rule 303 said:
Need to find a new Fish & Chip shop. The old one does real good food, but they had a staff turnover a couple of months ago and have been fucking up our weekly order without fail since.
Good luck with that. Some are excellent, but …
I had one that claimed authentic old-style fish and chips. I would get sick afterwards. Finally twigged that they were using salt with a high MgCl2 content, and sickening SO4 content.
What? Seems an odd thing for them to do. Where did they source this salt from? Or did they make it themselves?
Cymek said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Wow…
Trouble is…
a) Keeping the modem in here means having a phone line stretched across the floors of the hallway, living room and entrance to the kitchen, looking ugly and causing inevitable trip-ups.
b) The long phone line I’m currently using is only just long enough and involves lots of over-stretched cables to the modem, pooter & power point.
You could order a new modem from iiNet that way it would or should already be set up with your password and username
Nothing wrong with the modem. It’s this computer’s dated Wi-Fi adaptor which is single (slow) channel only.
Bubblecar said:
Cymek said:
Bubblecar said:Trouble is…
a) Keeping the modem in here means having a phone line stretched across the floors of the hallway, living room and entrance to the kitchen, looking ugly and causing inevitable trip-ups.
b) The long phone line I’m currently using is only just long enough and involves lots of over-stretched cables to the modem, pooter & power point.
You could order a new modem from iiNet that way it would or should already be set up with your password and username
Nothing wrong with the modem. It’s this computer’s dated Wi-Fi adaptor which is single (slow) channel only.
The thought occurs to me, have you unpolugged the ethernet and tried the wireless speed again? Try it where you got it now right near the computer, then try it again when you have put everything else back in its place.
It might just be that the changes the iiNet person made when you first called has kicked in and been solved at their end while you were faffing about.
Bubblecar said:
Cymek said:
Bubblecar said:Trouble is…
a) Keeping the modem in here means having a phone line stretched across the floors of the hallway, living room and entrance to the kitchen, looking ugly and causing inevitable trip-ups.
b) The long phone line I’m currently using is only just long enough and involves lots of over-stretched cables to the modem, pooter & power point.
You could order a new modem from iiNet that way it would or should already be set up with your password and username
Nothing wrong with the modem. It’s this computer’s dated Wi-Fi adaptor which is single (slow) channel only.
Oh OK, can get USB plug in ones
Cymek said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:I was born here so not sure of the sefrica reference.
Sorry. Your condescending attitude towards your fellow countrymen made me think you were a blow-in. My bad.
Does he do that ?
You are allowed to call out morons for being morons
Only if you believe you have nothing to fear yourself.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
Cymek said:You could order a new modem from iiNet that way it would or should already be set up with your password and username
Nothing wrong with the modem. It’s this computer’s dated Wi-Fi adaptor which is single (slow) channel only.
The thought occurs to me, have you unpolugged the ethernet and tried the wireless speed again? Try it where you got it now right near the computer, then try it again when you have put everything else back in its place.
It might just be that the changes the iiNet person made when you first called has kicked in and been solved at their end while you were faffing about.
Good idea. And very impressive – with ethernet unplugged (and modem still in here):

OK I’ll unplug the modem and set it back up in the living room.
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Sorry. Your condescending attitude towards your fellow countrymen made me think you were a blow-in. My bad.
Does he do that ?
You are allowed to call out morons for being morons
Only if you believe you have nothing to fear yourself.
Yes but honest people would own or admit their own shortcomings.
For example I can be grumpy and are an antisocial person
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:Nothing wrong with the modem. It’s this computer’s dated Wi-Fi adaptor which is single (slow) channel only.
The thought occurs to me, have you unpolugged the ethernet and tried the wireless speed again? Try it where you got it now right near the computer, then try it again when you have put everything else back in its place.
It might just be that the changes the iiNet person made when you first called has kicked in and been solved at their end while you were faffing about.
Good idea. And very impressive – with ethernet unplugged (and modem still in here):
Tech support from the forum is expensive but this ones free
Bubblecar said:
OK I’ll unplug the modem and set it back up in the living room.
Keep the long phone cable in for the test, so the only change is the position of the modem.
Bubblecar said:
OK I’ll unplug the modem and set it back up in the living room.
glad to be of some help. It might end up being the signal from the modem being weak and just finding another spot.
Vive Le Craphole!
https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/eiffel-tower-louvre-to-close-on-saturday-over-paris-violence-fears-20181207-p50ksc.html
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
OK I’ll unplug the modem and set it back up in the living room.
Keep the long phone cable in for the test, so the only change is the position of the modem.
that’s good thinking Mr V, it might be the short phone cable that was faulty.
pink gin o’clock. again.
sarahs mum said:
pink gin o’clock. again.
Sounds like a plan.
:)
Meanwhile if Obama had done this you trendy lefties would all be fine with it!
Trump names Fox News host as UN ambassador
Not satire
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:Does he do that ?
You are allowed to call out morons for being morons
Only if you believe you have nothing to fear yourself.
Yes but honest people would own or admit their own shortcomings.
For example I can be grumpy and are an antisocial person
According to Hannah Gatsby, all men think they are good.
OK, with the modem back in its old position:

roughbarked said:
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:Only if you believe you have nothing to fear yourself.
Yes but honest people would own or admit their own shortcomings.
For example I can be grumpy and are an antisocial person
According to Hannah Gatsby, all men think they are good.
Quite likely I mean terrible people probably don’t think they are
dv said:
Meanwhile if Obama had done this you trendy lefties would all be fine with it!Trump names Fox News host as UN ambassador
Not satire
There’s no way Obama would have done that.
Bubblecar said:
OK, with the modem back in its old position:
Try Mr V’s idea of using the long cable, just to test if the short cable is faulty.
Otherwise time to find a new spot for the modem.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Vive Le Craphole!https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/eiffel-tower-louvre-to-close-on-saturday-over-paris-violence-fears-20181207-p50ksc.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpDbvlAI_A0
Just thinking – I could connect the modem with the long phone line and run that safely along various walls of the living room to get the modem under the dresser next to the hallway door. It would then be much closer to the pooter here in the studio.
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:Yes but honest people would own or admit their own shortcomings.
For example I can be grumpy and are an antisocial person
According to Hannah Gatsby, all men think they are good.
Quite likely I mean terrible people probably don’t think they are
Good people may actually be somewhat humble?
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
OK, with the modem back in its old position:
Try Mr V’s idea of using the long cable, just to test if the short cable is faulty.
Otherwise time to find a new spot for the modem.
Yeah I’ll try that first.
roughbarked said:
dv said:
Meanwhile if Obama had done this you trendy lefties would all be fine with it!Trump names Fox News host as UN ambassador
Not satire
There’s no way Obama would have done that.
You’d be better having Peter Griffin as ambassador
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:According to Hannah Gatsby, all men think they are good.
Quite likely I mean terrible people probably don’t think they are
Good people may actually be somewhat humble?
I’d imagine so, arrogance can lead to any justification
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
OK, with the modem back in its old position:
Try Mr V’s idea of using the long cable, just to test if the short cable is faulty.
Otherwise time to find a new spot for the modem.
Yeah I’ll try that first.
…although it’s not likely to make any difference because I was using the normal stretch of phone line plugged into the long cable when I tried it out in here.
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
OK, with the modem back in its old position:
Try Mr V’s idea of using the long cable, just to test if the short cable is faulty.
Otherwise time to find a new spot for the modem.
Yeah I’ll try that first.
Do you have a smartphone with a wifi analyzer app, that could be of help
Other wise its trial and error moving the wifi modem around to different positions
you could try seeing what the topology is, walls, fridge positions, metal objects, etc
or buy a new dual band wifi modem with extra antennas
dv said:
Meanwhile if Obama had done this you trendy lefties would all be fine with it!Trump names Fox News host as UN ambassador
Not satire
Yeah, noticed that.. but it’s Trump
shrug
dv said:
Meanwhile if Obama had done this you trendy lefties would all be fine with it!Trump names Fox News host as UN ambassador
Not satire
shakes head
roughbarked said:
dv said:
Meanwhile if Obama had done this you trendy lefties would all be fine with it!Trump names Fox News host as UN ambassador
Not satire
There’s no way Obama would have done that.
Well yes … I’m lampooning AwesomeO … should have flagged that
37 degrees. Clothes on the line. It begins bloody raining.
sibeen said:
37 degrees. Clothes on the line. It begins bloody raining.
It’s a watery planet
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:Try Mr V’s idea of using the long cable, just to test if the short cable is faulty.
Otherwise time to find a new spot for the modem.
Yeah I’ll try that first.
…although it’s not likely to make any difference because I was using the normal stretch of phone line plugged into the long cable when I tried it out in here.
Oh. Fair enough. Seems like too may walls between modem and computer, then.
sarahs mum said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Vive Le Craphole!https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/eiffel-tower-louvre-to-close-on-saturday-over-paris-violence-fears-20181207-p50ksc.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpDbvlAI_A0
Jean Valjean probably supported sensible government policies that aimed to help France compete economically against more reform-minded countries.
“It’s this computer’s dated Wi-Fi adaptor which is single (slow) channel only.”
That is the problem. different router wont help. get a long ethernet cable and plug the puta into the modem. or get a longer phone line and move the modem. or get another router and plug that directly into the puta and use that to connect to the modem/router in the other room.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:Yeah I’ll try that first.
…although it’s not likely to make any difference because I was using the normal stretch of phone line plugged into the long cable when I tried it out in here.
Oh. Fair enough. Seems like too may walls between modem and computer, then.
You thinking what I’m thinking, sledgehammer time ?
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:Yeah I’ll try that first.
…although it’s not likely to make any difference because I was using the normal stretch of phone line plugged into the long cable when I tried it out in here.
Oh. Fair enough. Seems like too may walls between modem and computer, then.
probably not. those wifi dongles are usually crap. i have used one and now i use an ethernet cable.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/07/the-eastern-curlew-is-brave-and-courageous-and-we-want-to-put-a-resort-where-it-lives
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MsDWrites 15m ago 0 1Why are our politicians all so remorselessly crap? And without even the fertilising benefits of actual guano?
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:Yeah I’ll try that first.
…although it’s not likely to make any difference because I was using the normal stretch of phone line plugged into the long cable when I tried it out in here.
Oh. Fair enough. Seems like too may walls between modem and computer, then.
Yes. Looks like you need a new adapter or modem, or less walls.
sarahs mum said:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/07/the-eastern-curlew-is-brave-and-courageous-and-we-want-to-put-a-resort-where-it-lives===
MsDWrites 15m ago 0 1Why are our politicians all so remorselessly crap? And without even the fertilising benefits of actual guano?
Chortle
Witty Rejoinder said:
sarahs mum said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Vive Le Craphole!https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/eiffel-tower-louvre-to-close-on-saturday-over-paris-violence-fears-20181207-p50ksc.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpDbvlAI_A0
Jean Valjean probably supported sensible government policies that aimed to help France compete economically against more reform-minded countries.
Which Jean Valjean? ( :) )
Cymek said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:…although it’s not likely to make any difference because I was using the normal stretch of phone line plugged into the long cable when I tried it out in here.
Oh. Fair enough. Seems like too may walls between modem and computer, then.
You thinking what I’m thinking, sledgehammer time ?
I’m now picturing Bubblecar, shirt off smashing holes in the wall grinning like Jack Nicholson in The Shining, the police knock on the door because of all the noise, he opens the door covered in plaster dust explains the situation and told carry on sir
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Cymek said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:…although it’s not likely to make any difference because I was using the normal stretch of phone line plugged into the long cable when I tried it out in here.
Oh. Fair enough. Seems like too may walls between modem and computer, then.
You thinking what I’m thinking, sledgehammer time ?
Yes, he could try that, but first uninstall and reinstall windows.
With both the long line & short line plugged in, with the modem in its usual living room position:

Anyway I’ll leave it like that for now, sick of mucking about with it for this entire hot afternoon. Might try shifting it tomorrow.
Ian said:
Cymek said:
Michael V said:Oh. Fair enough. Seems like too may walls between modem and computer, then.
You thinking what I’m thinking, sledgehammer time ?
Yes, he could try that, but first uninstall and reinstall windows.
With great big holes in the walls he won’t need windows.
Bubblecar said:
With both the long line & short line plugged in, with the modem in its usual living room position:
Anyway I’ll leave it like that for now, sick of mucking about with it for this entire hot afternoon. Might try shifting it tomorrow.
Exactly, I’d say it’s time to relax with a plate of Spanish mussels, assorted cheese and chorizo washed down with a cool vodka lime and soda.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:Yeah I’ll try that first.
…although it’s not likely to make any difference because I was using the normal stretch of phone line plugged into the long cable when I tried it out in here.
Oh. Fair enough. Seems like too may walls between modem and computer, then.
or extrtaneous WIFI signals. ;)
sarahs mum said:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/07/the-eastern-curlew-is-brave-and-courageous-and-we-want-to-put-a-resort-where-it-lives===
MsDWrites 15m ago 0 1Why are our politicians all so remorselessly crap? And without even the fertilising benefits of actual guano?
Money. Money, money, and more money.
If not now, then at a decent interval after leaving office.

captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/07/the-eastern-curlew-is-brave-and-courageous-and-we-want-to-put-a-resort-where-it-lives===
MsDWrites 15m ago 0 1Why are our politicians all so remorselessly crap? And without even the fertilising benefits of actual guano?
Money. Money, money, and more money.
If not now, then at a decent interval after leaving office.
I don’t know how they can live with themselves.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/07/the-eastern-curlew-is-brave-and-courageous-and-we-want-to-put-a-resort-where-it-lives===
MsDWrites 15m ago 0 1Why are our politicians all so remorselessly crap? And without even the fertilising benefits of actual guano?
Money. Money, money, and more money.
If not now, then at a decent interval after leaving office.
Don’t even have to wait in the case of our vapid grubs e.g. Andrew Robb
sibeen said:
37 degrees. Clothes on the line. It begins bloody raining.
36.0°C
Dew Point
6.2°C
Gusts
17km/h
Relative Humidity
16%
Pressure
1013.9hPa
Wind
NE 11km/h
Rainfall
0.0mm
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
With both the long line & short line plugged in, with the modem in its usual living room position:
Anyway I’ll leave it like that for now, sick of mucking about with it for this entire hot afternoon. Might try shifting it tomorrow.
Exactly, I’d say it’s time to relax with a plate of Spanish mussels, assorted cheese and chorizo washed down with a cool vodka lime and soda.
I’m having a calming cup of tea. And dinner will be another diet vegetarian dish.
And our IGA doesn’t stock those Spanish mussels anyway.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
With both the long line & short line plugged in, with the modem in its usual living room position:
Anyway I’ll leave it like that for now, sick of mucking about with it for this entire hot afternoon. Might try shifting it tomorrow.
Exactly, I’d say it’s time to relax with a plate of Spanish mussels, assorted cheese and chorizo washed down with a cool vodka lime and soda.
I’m having a calming cup of tea. And dinner will be another diet vegetarian dish.
And our IGA doesn’t stock those Spanish mussels anyway.
Scratches head .
You could buy a dual band WIFI USB 3 dongle for your computer which would have both the 2.5 and the 5 GHZ channels, if your PC has USB 3 port
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/802-11ac-AC1200-USB-WiFi-Wireless-Adapter-Dongle-WPS-5GHz-Dual-Band-5dBi-Antenna/232874051455?epid=17013291648&hash=item363860077f:rk:1:pf:0
or if your PC has only USB 2 then its
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dual-Band-600Mbps-USB-WiFi-Wireless-Dongle-AC600-Lan-Network-Adapter-2-4GHz-5GHz/331622000186?epid=21016093747&hash=item4d3636263a:g:O3cAAOSwYPhbKHPC:rk:2:pf:0
Tau.Neutrino said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:Exactly, I’d say it’s time to relax with a plate of Spanish mussels, assorted cheese and chorizo washed down with a cool vodka lime and soda.
I’m having a calming cup of tea. And dinner will be another diet vegetarian dish.
And our IGA doesn’t stock those Spanish mussels anyway.
Scratches head .
You could buy a dual band WIFI USB 3 dongle for your computer which would have both the 2.5 and the 5 GHZ channels, if your PC has USB 3 port
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/802-11ac-AC1200-USB-WiFi-Wireless-Adapter-Dongle-WPS-5GHz-Dual-Band-5dBi-Antenna/232874051455?epid=17013291648&hash=item363860077f:rk:1:pf:0
or if your PC has only USB 2 then its
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dual-Band-600Mbps-USB-WiFi-Wireless-Dongle-AC600-Lan-Network-Adapter-2-4GHz-5GHz/331622000186?epid=21016093747&hash=item4d3636263a:g:O3cAAOSwYPhbKHPC:rk:2:pf:0
Ta, I might do that.
note that with each connection its going to a different host
Time Speed, Host server
2:54 am 1.10 Melb
3:54 am 0.48 Melb
5:17 am 11.28 Windsor
5:40 am 11.58 Geelong
5:52 am 0.78 Windsor
6:09 am 3.28 Windsor
Looks like it reconnects depending on the load and how it deals with overall traffic
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:…although it’s not likely to make any difference because I was using the normal stretch of phone line plugged into the long cable when I tried it out in here.
Oh. Fair enough. Seems like too may walls between modem and computer, then.
probably not. those wifi dongles are usually crap. i have used one and now i use an ethernet cable.
I didn’t realise Mr car was using a wifi dongle.
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:Oh. Fair enough. Seems like too may walls between modem and computer, then.
probably not. those wifi dongles are usually crap. i have used one and now i use an ethernet cable.
I didn’t realise Mr car was using a wifi dongle.
I’m not. It’s inside the computer somewhere.
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:probably not. those wifi dongles are usually crap. i have used one and now i use an ethernet cable.
I didn’t realise Mr car was using a wifi dongle.
I’m not. It’s inside the computer somewhere.
Look up the specs of it in the computer info page in accessories.
Clumsy pouring. Let’s call it a generous double.
Bogsnorkler said:
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:I didn’t realise Mr car was using a wifi dongle.
I’m not. It’s inside the computer somewhere.
Look up the specs of it in the computer info page in accessories.
I have, and it’s an outdated single band thingo.
sarahs mum said:
Clumsy pouring. Let’s call it a generous double.
Cheers. Wagon this end so have one for me :)
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
With both the long line & short line plugged in, with the modem in its usual living room position:
Anyway I’ll leave it like that for now, sick of mucking about with it for this entire hot afternoon. Might try shifting it tomorrow.
Exactly, I’d say it’s time to relax with a plate of Spanish mussels, assorted cheese and chorizo washed down with a cool vodka lime and soda.
I’m having a calming cup of tea. And dinner will be another diet vegetarian dish.
And our IGA doesn’t stock those Spanish mussels anyway.
They were on special at Coles today, two dorrah a tin.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Clumsy pouring. Let’s call it a generous double.
Cheers. Wagon this end so have one for me :)
I think I am.
Bubblecar said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Bubblecar said:I’m not. It’s inside the computer somewhere.
Look up the specs of it in the computer info page in accessories.
I have, and it’s an outdated single band thingo.
use an ethernet cable then.
Bogsnorkler said:
Bubblecar said:
Bogsnorkler said:Look up the specs of it in the computer info page in accessories.
I have, and it’s an outdated single band thingo.
use an ethernet cable then.
And then cut it loose and come down on rockets.
Bogsnorkler said:
Bubblecar said:
Bogsnorkler said:Look up the specs of it in the computer info page in accessories.
I have, and it’s an outdated single band thingo.
use an ethernet cable then.
Not really practical. There’s only one phone socket in this house (in the living room) and there’s no room for the pooter in there. I don’t want cables going from room to room looking ugly and being continually tripped over.
I can try positioning the modem near the living room door but I’m not mucking about with it any more tonight.
Just visited the sick kid next door. Washed hands, disinfected clothes, sprayed Glen 20 on toys Mini Me took over to play with. Fingers crossed.
Divine Angel said:
Just visited the sick kid next door. Washed hands, disinfected clothes, sprayed Glen 20 on toys Mini Me took over to play with. Fingers crossed.
What’s actually wrong with him?
Bubblecar said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Bubblecar said:I have, and it’s an outdated single band thingo.
use an ethernet cable then.
Not really practical. There’s only one phone socket in this house (in the living room) and there’s no room for the pooter in there. I don’t want cables going from room to room looking ugly and being continually tripped over.
I can try positioning the modem near the living room door but I’m not mucking about with it any more tonight.
You know you could buy an ethernet cable that is 100s of metres long and string it above doorways and through windows etc.
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:Oh. Fair enough. Seems like too may walls between modem and computer, then.
probably not. those wifi dongles are usually crap. i have used one and now i use an ethernet cable.
I didn’t realise Mr car was using a wifi dongle.
Most PCs come with Bluetooth and dual channel wifi these days some older ones dont or will only have single channel wifi
Make sure the wifi dongle is compatible with both pc and your WIFI Router Modem
or has MV says use Ethernet cable
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Bogsnorkler said:use an ethernet cable then.
Not really practical. There’s only one phone socket in this house (in the living room) and there’s no room for the pooter in there. I don’t want cables going from room to room looking ugly and being continually tripped over.
I can try positioning the modem near the living room door but I’m not mucking about with it any more tonight.
You know you could buy an ethernet cable that is 100s of metres long and string it above doorways and through windows etc.
I’m not stringing ugly cables above windows and doors. I’ll try moving the modem closer to the living room door and buy one of the dual band dongelators Tau linked to.
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:Not really practical. There’s only one phone socket in this house (in the living room) and there’s no room for the pooter in there. I don’t want cables going from room to room looking ugly and being continually tripped over.
I can try positioning the modem near the living room door but I’m not mucking about with it any more tonight.
You know you could buy an ethernet cable that is 100s of metres long and string it above doorways and through windows etc.
I’m not stringing ugly cables above windows and doors. I’ll try moving the modem closer to the living room door and buy one of the dual band dongelators Tau linked to.
Ugly? You can get it in a nice pink colour which is also rated to 1000 volts so you can run it through your switchboard if required.
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:Not really practical. There’s only one phone socket in this house (in the living room) and there’s no room for the pooter in there. I don’t want cables going from room to room looking ugly and being continually tripped over.
I can try positioning the modem near the living room door but I’m not mucking about with it any more tonight.
You know you could buy an ethernet cable that is 100s of metres long and string it above doorways and through windows etc.
I’m not stringing ugly cables above windows and doors. I’ll try moving the modem closer to the living room door and buy one of the dual band dongelators Tau linked to.
It seems to be a fact of modern life. I have speaker cables going all over the place, held in with bluetack skirting along the floor/wall joints and along the window ledge.
Bubblecar said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Bubblecar said:I’m having a calming cup of tea. And dinner will be another diet vegetarian dish.
And our IGA doesn’t stock those Spanish mussels anyway.
Scratches head .
You could buy a dual band WIFI USB 3 dongle for your computer which would have both the 2.5 and the 5 GHZ channels, if your PC has USB 3 port
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/802-11ac-AC1200-USB-WiFi-Wireless-Adapter-Dongle-WPS-5GHz-Dual-Band-5dBi-Antenna/232874051455?epid=17013291648&hash=item363860077f:rk:1:pf:0
or if your PC has only USB 2 then its
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dual-Band-600Mbps-USB-WiFi-Wireless-Dongle-AC600-Lan-Network-Adapter-2-4GHz-5GHz/331622000186?epid=21016093747&hash=item4d3636263a:g:O3cAAOSwYPhbKHPC:rk:2:pf:0
Ta, I might do that.
The wifi connection for the TV (for iview etc) here is 25-odd metres from the modem and I have no problems. It has to go through three walls and two of those are covered with corrugated iron.
sarahs mum said:
Clumsy pouring. Let’s call it a generous double.
Perfect!
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Scratches head .
You could buy a dual band WIFI USB 3 dongle for your computer which would have both the 2.5 and the 5 GHZ channels, if your PC has USB 3 port
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/802-11ac-AC1200-USB-WiFi-Wireless-Adapter-Dongle-WPS-5GHz-Dual-Band-5dBi-Antenna/232874051455?epid=17013291648&hash=item363860077f:rk:1:pf:0
or if your PC has only USB 2 then its
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dual-Band-600Mbps-USB-WiFi-Wireless-Dongle-AC600-Lan-Network-Adapter-2-4GHz-5GHz/331622000186?epid=21016093747&hash=item4d3636263a:g:O3cAAOSwYPhbKHPC:rk:2:pf:0
Ta, I might do that.
The wifi connection for the TV (for iview etc) here is 25-odd metres from the modem and I have no problems. It has to go through three walls and two of those are covered with corrugated iron.
My wifi connection in the previous house was considerably more distant than it is here, but the internet was faster, using the same computer and modem. So who knows.
Divine Angel said:
Just visited the sick kid next door. Washed hands, disinfected clothes, sprayed Glen 20 on toys Mini Me took over to play with. Fingers crossed.
What’s wrong with the kid?
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:Ta, I might do that.
The wifi connection for the TV (for iview etc) here is 25-odd metres from the modem and I have no problems. It has to go through three walls and two of those are covered with corrugated iron.
My wifi connection in the previous house was considerably more distant than it is here, but the internet was faster, using the same computer and modem. So who knows.
It does seem remarkably odd. Something I thought would not make difference either way. My wifi connection and router is in the wardrobe in the bedroom, only about 5 metres away but the bathroom and kitchen walls are in between. I get a pretty decent signal.
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:Ta, I might do that.
The wifi connection for the TV (for iview etc) here is 25-odd metres from the modem and I have no problems. It has to go through three walls and two of those are covered with corrugated iron.
My wifi connection in the previous house was considerably more distant than it is here, but the internet was faster, using the same computer and modem. So who knows.
Strange.
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:
Just visited the sick kid next door. Washed hands, disinfected clothes, sprayed Glen 20 on toys Mini Me took over to play with. Fingers crossed.
What’s actually wrong with him?
Dunno. Mother says it’s the flu. Hosp didn’t do any tests except X-ray. Some sort of virus.
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:Not really practical. There’s only one phone socket in this house (in the living room) and there’s no room for the pooter in there. I don’t want cables going from room to room looking ugly and being continually tripped over.
I can try positioning the modem near the living room door but I’m not mucking about with it any more tonight.
You know you could buy an ethernet cable that is 100s of metres long and string it above doorways and through windows etc.
I’m not stringing ugly cables above windows and doors. I’ll try moving the modem closer to the living room door and buy one of the dual band dongelators Tau linked to.
Does your PC support USB 3 ? if it does then get the USB 3 WIFI AC Dual channel Dongle
If your PC only has USB 2 and you want a USB 3 WIFI dongle then you can get a USB 3 pci-e card and plug the usb 3 WIFI dongle into that.
USB 3 Cards PCI-E
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PCI-E-to-USB-Adapter-PCIE-to-Dual-19Pin-SATA-USB3-0-Mini-Expansion-Card-AC772/262971698872?epid=10016024597&hash=item3d3a55aeb8:g:NwoAAOSwEKxb-3dE:rk:1:pf:0
I have to go have a shower and get ready, I’ve got a nephew’s engagement party this evening. He’s with a Lebanese girl so it’s going to be full on. Bouffant hair, extreme make-up, the bloody works. So SWMBO is on the warpath. I have to wear dress pants, a shirt and shoes! It’s 36 degrees FFS.
Not happy, Jan.
sibeen said:
I have to go have a shower and get ready, I’ve got a nephew’s engagement party this evening. He’s with a Lebanese girl so it’s going to be full on. Bouffant hair, extreme make-up, the bloody works. So SWMBO is on the warpath. I have to wear dress pants, a shirt and shoes! It’s 36 degrees FFS.Not happy, Jan.
ROFL.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:The wifi connection for the TV (for iview etc) here is 25-odd metres from the modem and I have no problems. It has to go through three walls and two of those are covered with corrugated iron.
My wifi connection in the previous house was considerably more distant than it is here, but the internet was faster, using the same computer and modem. So who knows.
It does seem remarkably odd. Something I thought would not make difference either way. My wifi connection and router is in the wardrobe in the bedroom, only about 5 metres away but the bathroom and kitchen walls are in between. I get a pretty decent signal.
Yeah, typical wifi range is around 45m indoors.
sibeen said:
I have to go have a shower and get ready, I’ve got a nephew’s engagement party this evening. He’s with a Lebanese girl so it’s going to be full on. Bouffant hair, extreme make-up, the bloody works. So SWMBO is on the warpath. I have to wear dress pants, a shirt and shoes! It’s 36 degrees FFS.Not happy, Jan.
I think that’s quite enough warpathing for a while.
sibeen said:
I have to go have a shower and get ready, I’ve got a nephew’s engagement party this evening. He’s with a Lebanese girl so it’s going to be full on. Bouffant hair, extreme make-up, the bloody works. So SWMBO is on the warpath. I have to wear dress pants, a shirt and shoes! It’s 36 degrees FFS.Not happy, Jan.
Casually mention it’s been turned into a Hawaiian theme and rock up suitably attired. Once you’re drunk you won’t give a shit.
sibeen said:
I have to go have a shower and get ready, I’ve got a nephew’s engagement party this evening. He’s with a Lebanese girl so it’s going to be full on. Bouffant hair, extreme make-up, the bloody works. So SWMBO is on the warpath. I have to wear dress pants, a shirt and shoes! It’s 36 degrees FFS.Not happy, Jan.
Shoes?
Fuck
sibeen said:
I have to go have a shower and get ready, I’ve got a nephew’s engagement party this evening. He’s with a Lebanese girl so it’s going to be full on. Bouffant hair, extreme make-up, the bloody works. So SWMBO is on the warpath. I have to wear dress pants, a shirt and shoes! It’s 36 degrees FFS.Not happy, Jan.
I blame the daughter for swmbos mood.
One trick is to get a USB extension cable and plug the USB WIFI dongle into that, then you can move it around looking for a better signal using a WIFI Analyzer application.
Microsoft have a WIFI Analyzer APP
https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/p/wifi-analyzer/9nblggh33n0n
Or any other similar app.
Ian said:
sibeen said:
I have to go have a shower and get ready, I’ve got a nephew’s engagement party this evening. He’s with a Lebanese girl so it’s going to be full on. Bouffant hair, extreme make-up, the bloody works. So SWMBO is on the warpath. I have to wear dress pants, a shirt and shoes! It’s 36 degrees FFS.Not happy, Jan.
Shoes?
Fuck
I missed that. I saw the skirt and dress, but.
sibeen said:
I have to go have a shower and get ready, I’ve got a nephew’s engagement party this evening. He’s with a Lebanese girl so it’s going to be full on. Bouffant hair, extreme make-up, the bloody works. So SWMBO is on the warpath. I have to wear dress pants, a shirt and shoes! It’s 36 degrees FFS.Not happy, Jan.
What’s she on the warpath against now? Fecking jeans and polo shirts? Better hope she doesn’t get video of you wearing tracksuit pants….
sibeen said:
I have to go have a shower and get ready, I’ve got a nephew’s engagement party this evening. He’s with a Lebanese girl so it’s going to be full on. Bouffant hair, extreme make-up, the bloody works. So SWMBO is on the warpath. I have to wear dress pants, a shirt and shoes! It’s 36 degrees FFS.Not happy, Jan.
Doing that in 36 degrees, I would not be happy either, my sympathies.
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
I have to go have a shower and get ready, I’ve got a nephew’s engagement party this evening. He’s with a Lebanese girl so it’s going to be full on. Bouffant hair, extreme make-up, the bloody works. So SWMBO is on the warpath. I have to wear dress pants, a shirt and shoes! It’s 36 degrees FFS.Not happy, Jan.
What’s she on the warpath against now? Fecking jeans and polo shirts? Better hope she doesn’t get video of you wearing tracksuit pants….
It’s OK, it’s OK, it has dropped to 34.8 degree.
FUCK
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
I have to go have a shower and get ready, I’ve got a nephew’s engagement party this evening. He’s with a Lebanese girl so it’s going to be full on. Bouffant hair, extreme make-up, the bloody works. So SWMBO is on the warpath. I have to wear dress pants, a shirt and shoes! It’s 36 degrees FFS.Not happy, Jan.
What’s she on the warpath against now? Fecking jeans and polo shirts? Better hope she doesn’t get video of you wearing tracksuit pants….
It’s OK, it’s OK, it has dropped to 34.8 degree.
FUCK
Probably be snowing by the time you get there.
poikilotherm said:
sibeen said:
I have to go have a shower and get ready, I’ve got a nephew’s engagement party this evening. He’s with a Lebanese girl so it’s going to be full on. Bouffant hair, extreme make-up, the bloody works. So SWMBO is on the warpath. I have to wear dress pants, a shirt and shoes! It’s 36 degrees FFS.Not happy, Jan.
ROFL.
Feign an old war injury playing up
Has anyone declared FNDC yet?

Headache.
Anxiety.
Rain.
Warm milk. Honey.
Drugs.
Rule 303 said:
Has anyone declared FNDC yet?
going to the work do in an hour. bbq. might wear aq polo and shorts, maybe shoes, seeing as it is warm.
Michael V said:
Ian said:
sibeen said:
I have to go have a shower and get ready, I’ve got a nephew’s engagement party this evening. He’s with a Lebanese girl so it’s going to be full on. Bouffant hair, extreme make-up, the bloody works. So SWMBO is on the warpath. I have to wear dress pants, a shirt and shoes! It’s 36 degrees FFS.Not happy, Jan.
Shoes?
Fuck
I missed that. I saw the skirt and dress, but.
What skirt?
I loathe formal events. I have to speak human.
kii said:
Michael V said:
Ian said:Shoes?
Fuck
I missed that. I saw the skirt and dress, but.
What skirt?
I loathe formal events. I have to speak human.
sibeen is a cross dresser.
kii said:
Headache.
Anxiety.Rain.
Warm milk. Honey.
Drugs.
Hugs.
Bogsnorkler said:
Rule 303 said:
Has anyone declared FNDC yet?
going to the work do in an hour. bbq. might wear aq polo and shorts, maybe shoes, seeing as it is warm.
I hope you get bitten by a snake.
Right, I’ll be back later – and soaking my feet in some cold water no doubt.
So, what high jinks have the sibeen offspring been up to in order to entertain the forum this week?
And we just et real old fashioned fish and chips. From the Panama fish and chip shop. Chips all crispy and all shapes and sizes. Potato cakes made on the premises (as far as I can tell). Extra bit of flake put in the parcel.
kii said:
Michael V said:
Ian said:Shoes?
Fuck
I missed that. I saw the skirt and dress, but.
What skirt?
I loathe formal events. I have to speak human.
Oh, shirt, not skirt.
Divine Angel said:
kii said:
Headache.
Anxiety.Rain.
Warm milk. Honey.
Drugs.
Hugs.
Yeah, ta.
There’s more :(
mr kii has a “shadow” on his pancreas.
Also my granddog is dying.
Michael V said:
kii said:
Michael V said:I missed that. I saw the skirt and dress, but.
What skirt?
I loathe formal events. I have to speak human.
Oh, shirt, not skirt.
It was dress pants – also known as trousers.
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
kii said:What skirt?
I loathe formal events. I have to speak human.
Oh, shirt, not skirt.
It was dress pants – also known as trousers.
Why not skirt pants?
kii said:
party_pants said:
Michael V said:Oh, shirt, not skirt.
It was dress pants – also known as trousers.
Why not skirt pants?
It is probably a term he picked up in the military.
party_pants said:
It is probably a germ he picked up in the military.
Fair enough.
kii said:
Divine Angel said:
kii said:
Headache.
Anxiety.Rain.
Warm milk. Honey.
Drugs.
Hugs.
Yeah, ta.
There’s more :(
mr kii has a “shadow” on his pancreas.
Also my granddog is dying.
So what are the implications of this “shadow”?
Sorry to hear about your granddog. Which country is that one in?
How’s that toe these days party_pants?
Bubblecar said:
How’s that toe these days party_pants?
still attached and healing well.
Still got the ABs in my arm though. Hopefully they take the PICC out on Monday and just let me use tablets instead after that.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
How’s that toe these days party_pants?
still attached and healing well.
Still got the ABs in my arm though. Hopefully they take the PICC out on Monday and just let me use tablets instead after that.
Splendid.
And I’ve caught up again. Gosh you lot can talk.
OK pilgrims save me some googling time.
I’m thinking of buying a welder to do small jobs around the farm, gates, cattle yards etc to run off a single phase genny 3kva.
TIG or MIG? Ones at Bunnings OK?
I have never struck an arc in my life.
buffy said:
So, what high jinks have the sibeen offspring been up to in order to entertain the forum this week?
And we just et real old fashioned fish and chips. From the Panama fish and chip shop. Chips all crispy and all shapes and sizes. Potato cakes made on the premises (as far as I can tell). Extra bit of flake put in the parcel.
Sounds tasty indeed.
What to do?
Watch TV or dismantle it?
Bubblecar said:
kii said:
Divine Angel said:Hugs.
Yeah, ta.
There’s more :(
mr kii has a “shadow” on his pancreas.
Also my granddog is dying.
So what are the implications of this “shadow”?
Sorry to hear about your granddog. Which country is that one in?
More tests and wait.
Slim is a Walien.
Peak Warming Man said:
OK pilgrims save me some googling time.
I’m thinking of buying a welder to do small jobs around the farm, gates, cattle yards etc to run off a single phase genny 3kva.
TIG or MIG? Ones at Bunnings OK?
I have never struck an arc in my life.
MIG and yes for light work.
What are the latest wifi standards and speeds?
The latest WIFI standard ratified is WIFI AC
WIFI AC router modems will work perfectly with older devices that have the previous standards 802.11a (introduced in 1999), 802.11b (2000), 802.11g (2003) and 802.11n (2007)
802.11ac was finalized in 2013
https://www.netgear.com.au/home/discover/fastest-wifi/default.aspx
https://www.netgear.com.au/home/discover/fastest-wifi/default.aspx
https://www.networkworld.com/article/3238664/wi-fi/80211-wi-fi-standards-and-speeds-explained.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/12/30/802-11ac-vs-802-11n-wifi-whats-the-difference/#25e729923957
https://www.telstra.com.au/broadband/extras/getwifi
https://www.lifewire.com/how-fast-is-a-wifi-network-816543
Theoretical Actual 802.11b 11 Mbps 5.5 Mbps 802.11a 54 Mbps 20 Mbps 802.11g 54 Mbps 20 Mbps 802.11n 600 Mbps 100 Mbps 802.11ac 1,300 Mbps 200 MbpsNext generation WIFI will be 802.11ax or WIFI AX at 10 Gbps utilizing the 5GHz frequency band and that is set to be finalized next year in 2019.
The new Wi-Fi Standard 802.11 AX will make the 802.11ac obsolete
https://www.versatek.com/blog/the-new-wi-fi-standard-that-will-make-the-802-11ac-obsolete/
They are other competing wifi standards.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:So, what high jinks have the sibeen offspring been up to in order to entertain the forum this week?
And we just et real old fashioned fish and chips. From the Panama fish and chip shop. Chips all crispy and all shapes and sizes. Potato cakes made on the premises (as far as I can tell). Extra bit of flake put in the parcel.
Sounds tasty indeed.
Peak Warming Man said:
OK pilgrims save me some googling time.
I’m thinking of buying a welder to do small jobs around the farm, gates, cattle yards etc to run off a single phase genny 3kva.
TIG or MIG? Ones at Bunnings OK?
I have never struck an arc in my life.
Mig. also do stick. don’t get tig cos that is hard.
https://www.machineryhouse.com.au/MIG-Welders
Sleep attempt #3.
Bogsnorkler said:
Peak Warming Man said:
OK pilgrims save me some googling time.
I’m thinking of buying a welder to do small jobs around the farm, gates, cattle yards etc to run off a single phase genny 3kva.
TIG or MIG? Ones at Bunnings OK?
I have never struck an arc in my life.
Mig. also do stick. don’t get tig cos that is hard.
https://www.machineryhouse.com.au/MIG-Welders
https://www.machineryhouse.com.au/W244
Mine. can use gasless wire so no need for a bottle.
mollwollfumble said:
What to do?Watch TV or dismantle it?
Assuming Kogan don’t have a street address leave it in a fiery heap outside their PO Box as a warning that they shouldn’t have tried messing with the likes of you…
Peak Warming Man said:
OK pilgrims save me some googling time.
I’m thinking of buying a welder to do small jobs around the farm, gates, cattle yards etc to run off a single phase genny 3kva.
TIG or MIG? Ones at Bunnings OK?
I have never struck an arc in my life.
I’d go a MIG, if you just want to weld up steel. Easy to use. Get a decent auto-darkening helmet.
Oh………. I think I nodded off.
mollwollfumble said:
What to do?Watch TV or dismantle it?
Is it an older box type TV or one of newer flat panel ones.
Older box type TVs can be repurposed as a planter.
Flat panel TVs can be repurposed as a small table top.
Movie Time.
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m thinking of buying a welder to do small jobs around the farm, gates, cattle yards etc to run off a single phase genny 3kva.
Mr next door tried that. Although it was enough RUN the welder, it wasn’t enough to kick start the thing at each touch of the welding stick. He went 4.5kva and still had trouble getting it to kick off.
Tau.Neutrino said:
What are the latest wifi standards and speeds?The latest WIFI standard ratified is WIFI AC
WIFI AC router modems will work perfectly with older devices that have the previous standards 802.11a (introduced in 1999), 802.11b (2000), 802.11g (2003) and 802.11n (2007)
802.11ac was finalized in 2013
https://www.netgear.com.au/home/discover/fastest-wifi/default.aspx
https://www.netgear.com.au/home/discover/fastest-wifi/default.aspx
https://www.networkworld.com/article/3238664/wi-fi/80211-wi-fi-standards-and-speeds-explained.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/12/30/802-11ac-vs-802-11n-wifi-whats-the-difference/#25e729923957
https://www.telstra.com.au/broadband/extras/getwifi
https://www.lifewire.com/how-fast-is-a-wifi-network-816543
Theoretical Actual 802.11b 11 Mbps 5.5 Mbps 802.11a 54 Mbps 20 Mbps 802.11g 54 Mbps 20 Mbps 802.11n 600 Mbps 100 Mbps 802.11ac 1,300 Mbps 200 MbpsNext generation WIFI will be 802.11ax or WIFI AX at 10 Gbps utilizing the 5GHz frequency band and that is set to be finalized next year in 2019.
The new Wi-Fi Standard 802.11 AX will make the 802.11ac obsolete
https://www.versatek.com/blog/the-new-wi-fi-standard-that-will-make-the-802-11ac-obsolete/They are other competing wifi standards.
> The new Wi-Fi Standard 802.11 AX will make the 802.11ac obsolete
But will it work in my back room? Currently 2.4 GHz. In future 5 GHz. The higher the frequency, the more trouble it has negotiating corners. So the shorter the range inside the house.
mollwollfumble said:
What to do?Watch TV or dismantle it?
If at first you don’t succeed, use a larger hammer.
Woodie said:
mollwollfumble said:
What to do?Watch TV or dismantle it?
If at first you don’t succeed, use a larger hammer.
Or in this case, a welder.
Just joking. I hope I can fix it without soldering, because my soldering is definitely average, but suspect that soldering will be needed as well as the 9 pin plug.
mollwollfumble said:
Woodie said:
mollwollfumble said:
What to do?Watch TV or dismantle it?
If at first you don’t succeed, use a larger hammer.
Or in this case, a welder.
Just joking. I hope I can fix it without soldering, because my soldering is definitely average, but suspect that soldering will be needed as well as the 9 pin plug.
what bit are you attempting to repair?
mollwollfumble said:
Woodie said:
mollwollfumble said:
What to do?Watch TV or dismantle it?
If at first you don’t succeed, use a larger hammer.
Or in this case, a welder.
Just joking. I hope I can fix it without soldering, because my soldering is definitely average, but suspect that soldering will be needed as well as the 9 pin plug.
The first 4 rules in soldering:
1. Make sure everything is clean.
2. Make sure everything is clean.
3. Make sure everything is clean.
4. Use a light touch.
‘A man with a gun is holding police at bay at a house in Launceston, with several shots fired since the stand-off began at 4:30pm today.’ – ABC News
This kind of thing astounds me.
Just what outcome do peope like this envisage?
That, after a siege and a few heartfelt words, everyone will go home satisfied, and tomorrow all concerned can get up and enjoy Saturday?
captain_spalding said:
mollwollfumble said:
Woodie said:If at first you don’t succeed, use a larger hammer.
Or in this case, a welder.
Just joking. I hope I can fix it without soldering, because my soldering is definitely average, but suspect that soldering will be needed as well as the 9 pin plug.
The first 4 rules in soldering:
1. Make sure everything is clean.
2. Make sure everything is clean.
3. Make sure everything is clean.
4. Use a light touch.
heat the joint, not the solder, was the rule in high school electronics with Mr Paris.
I am partaking in FNDC with a bottle of Bundaberg tropics, pineapple and coconut flavour.
captain_spalding said:
‘A man with a gun is holding police at bay at a house in Launceston, with several shots fired since the stand-off began at 4:30pm today.’ – ABC NewsThis kind of thing astounds me.
Just what outcome do peope like this envisage?
That, after a siege and a few heartfelt words, everyone will go home satisfied, and tomorrow all concerned can get up and enjoy Saturday?
I expect the police negotiators to talk him into giving himself up, and a trip to the magistrates court tomorrow morning.
Peak Warming Man said:
OK pilgrims save me some googling time.
I’m thinking of buying a welder to do small jobs around the farm, gates, cattle yards etc to run off a single phase genny 3kva.
TIG or MIG? Ones at Bunnings OK?
I have never struck an arc in my life.
Also, you’ll be needing an angle grinder, gloves, mask, hearing protection, clamps, gas, wire brush, cold galvanising paint, a bunch of old steel to learn on, and milk to drink when welding Gal pipe makes you sick.
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
OK pilgrims save me some googling time.
I’m thinking of buying a welder to do small jobs around the farm, gates, cattle yards etc to run off a single phase genny 3kva.
TIG or MIG? Ones at Bunnings OK?
I have never struck an arc in my life.
Also, you’ll be needing an angle grinder, gloves, mask, hearing protection, clamps, gas, wire brush, cold galvanising paint, a bunch of old steel to learn on, and milk to drink when welding Gal pipe makes you sick.
Ooo – this sounds like a hobby you can spend some serious cash on if you’re keen.
Divine Angel said:
I am partaking in FNDC with a bottle of Bundaberg tropics, pineapple and coconut flavour.
.holds up beer.
Salut!
And we’re having homemade pizza for dinner.
party_pants said:
mollwollfumble said:
Woodie said:If at first you don’t succeed, use a larger hammer.
Or in this case, a welder.
Just joking. I hope I can fix it without soldering, because my soldering is definitely average, but suspect that soldering will be needed as well as the 9 pin plug.
what bit are you attempting to repair?
A ribbon cable, and one of a red-black wire pair..
It would be easy to just take them out and replace them, wouldn’t it? But one end of both is hidden away where I can’t reach it, and the wire inside that hidden compartment is soldered in place rather than attached to a plug.
captain_spalding said:
3. Make sure everything is clean.
4. Use a light touch.
How to make sure everything is clean? Serious question.
My soldering iron doesn’t have a “light touch” setting. That’s the problem. But at least it’s lighter than my previous soldering iron, which weighed about a kilogram.
> heat the joint, not the solder, was the rule in high school electronics with Mr Paris.
Thanks for the tip. Is that safe inside a TV set?
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
OK pilgrims save me some googling time.
I’m thinking of buying a welder to do small jobs around the farm, gates, cattle yards etc to run off a single phase genny 3kva.
TIG or MIG? Ones at Bunnings OK?
I have never struck an arc in my life.
Also, you’ll be needing an angle grinder, gloves, mask, hearing protection, clamps, gas, wire brush, cold galvanising paint, a bunch of old steel to learn on, and milk to drink when welding Gal pipe makes you sick.
Ooo – this sounds like a hobby you can spend some serious cash on if you’re keen.
Oh yes.
You’ll need a membership to the ‘Rate me Weld’ Facebook group, too.
Woodie said:
Oh………. I think I nodded off.
Hollodaze.
Divine Angel said:
And we’re having homemade pizza for dinner.
You’ll be needing red wine. Allow me to recommend a Peter Lehmann ‘The Barossan’ Shiraz. On special at the moment for $20.
I seem to have a lot of opinions about things that people need at the moment…
Divine Angel said:
I am partaking in FNDC with a bottle of Bundaberg tropics, pineapple and coconut flavour.
Pina colada.
Michael V said:
Woodie said:
Oh………. I think I nodded off.
Hollodaze.
That’s a sauce.
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
OK pilgrims save me some googling time.
I’m thinking of buying a welder to do small jobs around the farm, gates, cattle yards etc to run off a single phase genny 3kva.
TIG or MIG? Ones at Bunnings OK?
I have never struck an arc in my life.
Also, you’ll be needing an angle grinder, gloves, mask, hearing protection, clamps, gas, wire brush, cold galvanising paint, a bunch of old steel to learn on, and milk to drink when welding Gal pipe makes you sick.
And an auto-darkening helmet.
Rule 303 said:
I seem to have a lot of opinions about things that people need at the moment…
Opinions are like safety pins, never know when they’ll come in handy.
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
Woodie said:
Oh………. I think I nodded off.
Hollodaze.
That’s a sauce.
Only if you are a monk.
There seems to be some event on at the local park, probably Carol singers.
I wonder if I should walk down there in search of food.
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
OK pilgrims save me some googling time.
I’m thinking of buying a welder to do small jobs around the farm, gates, cattle yards etc to run off a single phase genny 3kva.
TIG or MIG? Ones at Bunnings OK?
I have never struck an arc in my life.
Also, you’ll be needing an angle grinder, gloves, mask, hearing protection, clamps, gas, wire brush, cold galvanising paint, a bunch of old steel to learn on, and milk to drink when welding Gal pipe makes you sick.
And an auto-darkening helmet.
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
I seem to have a lot of opinions about things that people need at the moment…
Opinions are like safety pins, never know when they’ll come in handy.
LOL
I was taught that opinions are like arseholes – everybody’s got one and mostly they stink.
party_pants said:
There seems to be some event on at the local park, probably Carol singers.I wonder if I should walk down there in search of food.
You may need to sing for your supper.
Woodie said:
party_pants said:
There seems to be some event on at the local park, probably Carol singers.I wonder if I should walk down there in search of food.
You may need to sing for your supper.
Nah, I’ve got some small amount of cash in my wallet.
Wonder how sibeen’s going at his dress up party.
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:Also, you’ll be needing an angle grinder, gloves, mask, hearing protection, clamps, gas, wire brush, cold galvanising paint, a bunch of old steel to learn on, and milk to drink when welding Gal pipe makes you sick.
And an auto-darkening helmet.
Heh.
:)
Divine Angel said:
Wonder how sibeen’s going at his dress up party.
He’s probably pinched a bottle of wine and is sitting quietly in the corner chugging it.
Divine Angel said:
Wonder how sibeen’s going at his dress up party.
snigger
party_pants said:
There seems to be some event on at the local park, probably Carol singers.I wonder if I should walk down there in search of food.
Carol Singers? Is she still around?
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:
There seems to be some event on at the local park, probably Carol singers.I wonder if I should walk down there in search of food.
Carol Singers? Is she still around?
Dunno. Want me to check it out?
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:
There seems to be some event on at the local park, probably Carol singers.I wonder if I should walk down there in search of food.
Carol Singers? Is she still around?
Dunno. Want me to check it out?
Please do.
party_pants said:
There seems to be some event on at the local park, probably Carol singers.I wonder if I should walk down there in search of food.
Could be an Elvis sighting.
Peak Warming Man said:
party_pants said:
There seems to be some event on at the local park, probably Carol singers.I wonder if I should walk down there in search of food.
Could be an Elvis sighting.
Yes. I understand that he runs a dagwood dog van these days.
My frugal tea tonight will be cold corned beef and salad, sup of tea.
Divine Angel said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:Carol Singers? Is she still around?
Dunno. Want me to check it out?
Please do.
I’d better put a sandal on then…
Shit eh. My son’s teacher died unexpectedly. She was very nice, always helpful and informative.
dv said:
Shit eh. My son’s teacher died unexpectedly. She was very nice, always helpful and informative.
Damn.
Accident, misadventure, undiagnosed condition?
dv said:
Shit eh. My son’s teacher died unexpectedly. She was very nice, always helpful and informative.
And he’s pushed you off your bike.
dv said:
Shit eh. My son’s teacher died unexpectedly. She was very nice, always helpful and informative.
If I may offer a word of caution, don’t try to conceal this from the kids by creating a cover-story about her leaving the country. It’s only a matter of time before some idiot lets it slip.
Go on… ask me how I know.
At least she had the good graces to die at the end of the school year.
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
Shit eh. My son’s teacher died unexpectedly. She was very nice, always helpful and informative.
If I may offer a word of caution, don’t try to conceal this from the kids by creating a cover-story about her leaving the country. It’s only a matter of time before some idiot lets it slip.
Go on… ask me how I know.
Rofl… so how do you know?
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
Shit eh. My son’s teacher died unexpectedly. She was very nice, always helpful and informative.
If I may offer a word of caution, don’t try to conceal this from the kids by creating a cover-story about her leaving the country. It’s only a matter of time before some idiot lets it slip.
Go on… ask me how I know.
Pass.
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
Shit eh. My son’s teacher died unexpectedly. She was very nice, always helpful and informative.
If I may offer a word of caution, don’t try to conceal this from the kids by creating a cover-story about her leaving the country. It’s only a matter of time before some idiot lets it slip.
Go on… ask me how I know.
Rofl… so how do you know?
RuleKid2s heavily pregnant dance teacher was killed when she drove her car onto the train tracks in front of a high-speed train. MrsRule and other parents of the children decided to tell them she had left the country to have her baby in England, where she was originally from.
Then one day, about ten years later, some idiot let it slip…
Rule 303 said:
RuleKid2s heavily pregnant dance teacher was killed when she drove her car onto the train tracks in front of a high-speed train. MrsRule and other parents of the children decided to tell them she had left the country to have her baby in England, where she was originally from.Then one day, about ten years later, some idiot let it slip…
How old was Miss RuleKid?
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:If I may offer a word of caution, don’t try to conceal this from the kids by creating a cover-story about her leaving the country. It’s only a matter of time before some idiot lets it slip.
Go on… ask me how I know.
Rofl… so how do you know?
RuleKid2s heavily pregnant dance teacher was killed when she drove her car onto the train tracks in front of a high-speed train. MrsRule and other parents of the children decided to tell them she had left the country to have her baby in England, where she was originally from.
Then one day, about ten years later, some idiot let it slip…
What benefit is there for the kid(s) to know that she didn’t die?
poikilotherm said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:Rofl… so how do you know?
RuleKid2s heavily pregnant dance teacher was killed when she drove her car onto the train tracks in front of a high-speed train. MrsRule and other parents of the children decided to tell them she had left the country to have her baby in England, where she was originally from.
Then one day, about ten years later, some idiot let it slip…
What benefit is there for the kid(s) to know that she didn’t die?
It’s one thing to have a teacher die, entirely different when she’s pregnant.
Divine Angel said:
poikilotherm said:
Rule 303 said:RuleKid2s heavily pregnant dance teacher was killed when she drove her car onto the train tracks in front of a high-speed train. MrsRule and other parents of the children decided to tell them she had left the country to have her baby in England, where she was originally from.
Then one day, about ten years later, some idiot let it slip…
What benefit is there for the kid(s) to know that she didn’t die?
It’s one thing to have a teacher die, entirely different when she’s pregnant.
Doesn’t really get to the why though?
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:
RuleKid2s heavily pregnant dance teacher was killed when she drove her car onto the train tracks in front of a high-speed train. MrsRule and other parents of the children decided to tell them she had left the country to have her baby in England, where she was originally from.Then one day, about ten years later, some idiot let it slip…
How old was Miss RuleKid?
Might have been 5ish.
poikilotherm said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:Rofl… so how do you know?
RuleKid2s heavily pregnant dance teacher was killed when she drove her car onto the train tracks in front of a high-speed train. MrsRule and other parents of the children decided to tell them she had left the country to have her baby in England, where she was originally from.
Then one day, about ten years later, some idiot let it slip…
What benefit is there for the kid(s) to know that she didn’t die?
Some of the parents felt that they could not tell their child/ren. I don’t know why. And it was a one-in-all-in deal, for obvious reasons.
Never had a teacher die, but my first grade teacher’s son died in a motorcycle accident.
Coincidentally, when i was in NSW the other day, i saw a hotel ( a pub, but with accommodation upstairs) near where i grew up, and it was a pub i’d been in many times in the first half of my life.
For some reason, i reflected that it was in the room behind that window there that Mr. K., a primary school teacher of mine suicided back in the late 60s.
Have you watched Icarus Rule?
Well, I didn’t spot Carol Singers, or Elvis.
Just seemed to be a non-random collection of food stalls and a few selling arts and crafts trinkets. But everyone in the neighbourhood seems to have turned up and bought something to eat. Lot’s of parents being grumpy with their kids.
I bought some spaghetti carbonara and garlic bread. A very generous portion cooked by a jovial fat man with a beard, served by his stressed out and very un-jovial assistant. Was nice, but unhealthy as Allfolk. I can feel my arteries hardening just sitting here.
party_pants said:
Well, I didn’t spot Carol Singers, or Elvis.Just seemed to be a non-random collection of food stalls and a few selling arts and crafts trinkets. But everyone in the neighbourhood seems to have turned up and bought something to eat. Lot’s of parents being grumpy with their kids.
I bought some spaghetti carbonara and garlic bread. A very generous portion cooked by a jovial fat man with a beard, served by his stressed out and very un-jovial assistant. Was nice, but unhealthy as Allfolk. I can feel my arteries hardening just sitting here.
This jovial fat man, was he dressed in red?
poikilotherm said:
Have you watched Icarus Rule?
The bloke with the wings?
Peak Warming Man said:
party_pants said:
Well, I didn’t spot Carol Singers, or Elvis.Just seemed to be a non-random collection of food stalls and a few selling arts and crafts trinkets. But everyone in the neighbourhood seems to have turned up and bought something to eat. Lot’s of parents being grumpy with their kids.
I bought some spaghetti carbonara and garlic bread. A very generous portion cooked by a jovial fat man with a beard, served by his stressed out and very un-jovial assistant. Was nice, but unhealthy as Allfolk. I can feel my arteries hardening just sitting here.
This jovial fat man, was he dressed in red?
No. He was dressed like a chef, with a big white apron and a plastic hair cover.
Rule 303 said:
poikilotherm said:
Have you watched Icarus Rule?
The bloke with the wings?
Very bubblecar of you.
No.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icarus_(2017_film)
Our son told us about it so there’s no chance of keeping the news from him, not that we would anyway.
poikilotherm said:
Rule 303 said:
poikilotherm said:
Have you watched Icarus Rule?
The bloke with the wings?
Very bubblecar of you.
No.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icarus_(2017_film)
No. You like?
Yea, it’s not bad.
Goes from some dudebro trying to dope his amateur bike race to helping the russian scientist that was helping him escape .
poikilotherm said:
Goes from some dudebro trying to dope his amateur bike race to helping the russian scientist that was helping him escape .
I see it’s distributed by Netflix. At 2h1m, it’s perfect for two interval sessions on the indoor bike. That’s handy.
Rule 303 said:
poikilotherm said:
Goes from some dudebro trying to dope his amateur bike race to helping the russian scientist that was helping him escape .
I see it’s distributed by Netflix. At 2h1m, it’s perfect for two interval sessions on the indoor bike. That’s handy.
Yep, worth the watch. Not sure it’ll exactly be motivational for an interval set though.
poikilotherm said:
Rule 303 said:
poikilotherm said:
Goes from some dudebro trying to dope his amateur bike race to helping the russian scientist that was helping him escape .
I see it’s distributed by Netflix. At 2h1m, it’s perfect for two interval sessions on the indoor bike. That’s handy.
Yep, worth the watch. Not sure it’ll exactly be motivational for an interval set though.
Doesn’t take much to keep me motivated once I’m on the bike. I’m currently working my way through ‘Black Mirror’ again, if you can picture that.
Oh, your one of those eh ;)
I got so sick of my indoor trainer I sold it. Couldn’t stand the thought after a while.
Went outside to hang out some clothes and fight it out with the mozzies. Thought..hm…Bruna must have a possum up a tree…..hang on…that is not a possum grunt….oh dear….koala and baby. Sitting defiantly up a the wrong sort of tree, grunting at Bruna. Who was very, very hyped up. I don’t think anyone has been hurt. Bruna is now inside the house and will not be let into the backyard until it is light tomorrow. Then I’ll have to do a check around first to see where the koalas have got to. Hopefully they will just move through like they’ve done before. I tried taking photos but they were terrible.
Schrodinger’s science.
Ooh, we might perhaps get a little rain.
http://www.bom.gov.au/products/national_radar_sat.loop.shtml
poikilotherm said:
Oh, your one of those eh ;)I got so sick of my indoor trainer I sold it. Couldn’t stand the thought after a while.
Convenience and safety and don’t forget I’m 60km due south of Melbourne. Weather is a major influence. Also, MrsRule likes stupid TV shows, sooo…..
Divine Angel said:
Schrodinger’s science.
I’m still surprised they think it’s a belief based thing.
buffy said:
Ooh, we might perhaps get a little rain.
http://www.bom.gov.au/products/national_radar_sat.loop.shtml
Bewdy
I went as far as thinking “who the hell is Carol Singers?!” and what she had to do with elvis until it dawned on me…
It’s like calling yourself an atheist who believes in God.
poikilotherm said:
Divine Angel said:
Schrodinger’s science.
I’m still surprised they think it’s a belief based thing.
Strong sign of very poor scientific literacy.
Divine Angel said:
It’s like calling yourself an atheist who believes in God.
For Christ sake!
poikilotherm said:
Divine Angel said:
Schrodinger’s science.
I’m still surprised they think it’s a belief based thing.
It’s a bit like that…
buffy said:
Ooh, we might perhaps get a little rain.
http://www.bom.gov.au/products/national_radar_sat.loop.shtml
Little. Yes. We had 5 minutes here.
I see the final stage of the Hun Tour this year will be five laps up Arthur’s Seat.
Those poor bastards….
mollwollfumble said:
buffy said:Ooh, we might perhaps get a little rain.
http://www.bom.gov.au/products/national_radar_sat.loop.shtml
Little. Yes. We had 5 minutes here.
Yeah, but we are supposed to get it first. A couple of hours before you. And we’ve had nothing. The temperature has dropped down to about 21 now though.
poikilotherm said:
Oh, your one of those eh ;)I got so sick of my indoor trainer I sold it. Couldn’t stand the thought after a while.
There’s one particular type of indoor bike that I would like to buy. Very old. All mechanical, no electrics at all. You’re working against the air resistance of a fan, which means that the harder you pedal the more the fan cools you.
Divine Angel said:
Schrodinger’s science.
Country and western.
buffy said:
mollwollfumble said:
buffy said:Ooh, we might perhaps get a little rain.
http://www.bom.gov.au/products/national_radar_sat.loop.shtml
Little. Yes. We had 5 minutes here.
Yeah, but we are supposed to get it first. A couple of hours before you. And we’ve had nothing. The temperature has dropped down to about 21 now though.
You lucky …
Temperature here still 31.7.
mollwollfumble said:
poikilotherm said:
Oh, your one of those eh ;)I got so sick of my indoor trainer I sold it. Couldn’t stand the thought after a while.
There’s one particular type of indoor bike that I would like to buy. Very old. All mechanical, no electrics at all. You’re working against the air resistance of a fan, which means that the harder you pedal the more the fan cools you.
There’s modern versions of the same thing.
Mine is a normal pushy that sits on a spindle that drives an impeller in a hydraulic bath (which is really a heatsink case, full of fluid. No electronics, no magnets, no adjustment, no bullshit – just hundreds of thousands of kilometres of perfectly smooth resistance.
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Was drinking this Lebanese beer all evening. Like most pilseners it’s rather average. Drinkable, but average.
Bloody hell, do the Lebanese like it loud. I won’t be able to hear anything for the next day or so. Heavy metal version of middle eastern music, very heavy on the extremely loud drums, seems to be the order of the day. Like the majority of heavy metal it all sounds the bloody same. The family is also rather obviously from the christian section of Lebanon. Every table had a large bottle of Johnny Walker front and centre, plenty of red and white and the above beer was kept up to me all evening. Also the women were dressed in whatever the opposite of a hijab is, for which I don’t blame them as it was fucking hot. Imagine dancing to Lebanese heavy metal whilst wearing a hijab when the temperature is 35 degrees – it would not be comfortable.
New Zealand have beaten Pakistan in a series away from home for the first time in 49 years.
New Zealand
274 & 353/7d
Pakistan
348 & 156
This last test was amazing. The kiwis were on the ropes after day 2 and Pakistan were $1.14 for the win. The Kiwis just went berserk after that.
sibeen said:
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Was drinking this Lebanese beer all evening. Like most pilseners it’s rather average. Drinkable, but average.
Bloody hell, do the Lebanese like it loud. I won’t be able to hear anything for the next day or so. Heavy metal version of middle eastern music, very heavy on the extremely loud drums, seems to be the order of the day. Like the majority of heavy metal it all sounds the bloody same. The family is also rather obviously from the christian section of Lebanon. Every table had a large bottle of Johnny Walker front and centre, plenty of red and white and the above beer was kept up to me all evening. Also the women were dressed in whatever the opposite of a hijab is, for which I don’t blame them as it was fucking hot. Imagine dancing to Lebanese heavy metal whilst wearing a hijab when the temperature is 35 degrees – it would not be comfortable.
pics of the dancing costumes?
sibeen said:
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Was drinking this Lebanese beer all evening. Like most pilseners it’s rather average. Drinkable, but average.
Bloody hell, do the Lebanese like it loud. I won’t be able to hear anything for the next day or so. Heavy metal version of middle eastern music, very heavy on the extremely loud drums, seems to be the order of the day. Like the majority of heavy metal it all sounds the bloody same. The family is also rather obviously from the christian section of Lebanon. Every table had a large bottle of Johnny Walker front and centre, plenty of red and white and the above beer was kept up to me all evening. Also the women were dressed in whatever the opposite of a hijab is, for which I don’t blame them as it was fucking hot. Imagine dancing to Lebanese heavy metal whilst wearing a hijab when the temperature is 35 degrees – it would not be comfortable.
Modern restaurant dining is loud. Largely due to the proliferation of hard surfaces that create the impression of affluence, but bounce the noise around like a freaking aural super-ball. Take comfort in the knowledge that drinking alcohol closes down the ears.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
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Was drinking this Lebanese beer all evening. Like most pilseners it’s rather average. Drinkable, but average.
Bloody hell, do the Lebanese like it loud. I won’t be able to hear anything for the next day or so. Heavy metal version of middle eastern music, very heavy on the extremely loud drums, seems to be the order of the day. Like the majority of heavy metal it all sounds the bloody same. The family is also rather obviously from the christian section of Lebanon. Every table had a large bottle of Johnny Walker front and centre, plenty of red and white and the above beer was kept up to me all evening. Also the women were dressed in whatever the opposite of a hijab is, for which I don’t blame them as it was fucking hot. Imagine dancing to Lebanese heavy metal whilst wearing a hijab when the temperature is 35 degrees – it would not be comfortable.
pics of the dancing costumes?
Just think flowing backless dresses which showed lots of leg. I did not take photos.
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
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Was drinking this Lebanese beer all evening. Like most pilseners it’s rather average. Drinkable, but average.
Bloody hell, do the Lebanese like it loud. I won’t be able to hear anything for the next day or so. Heavy metal version of middle eastern music, very heavy on the extremely loud drums, seems to be the order of the day. Like the majority of heavy metal it all sounds the bloody same. The family is also rather obviously from the christian section of Lebanon. Every table had a large bottle of Johnny Walker front and centre, plenty of red and white and the above beer was kept up to me all evening. Also the women were dressed in whatever the opposite of a hijab is, for which I don’t blame them as it was fucking hot. Imagine dancing to Lebanese heavy metal whilst wearing a hijab when the temperature is 35 degrees – it would not be comfortable.
Modern restaurant dining is loud. Largely due to the proliferation of hard surfaces that create the impression of affluence, but bounce the noise around like a freaking aural super-ball. Take comfort in the knowledge that drinking alcohol closes down the ears.
I hate modern restaurants that try that shit on. I’ve walked out of a few without ordering.
Put some carpet down and some drapes along the walls you morons, I really don’t want to hear what the person across the other side of the room is rabbiting on about.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
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Was drinking this Lebanese beer all evening. Like most pilseners it’s rather average. Drinkable, but average.
Bloody hell, do the Lebanese like it loud. I won’t be able to hear anything for the next day or so. Heavy metal version of middle eastern music, very heavy on the extremely loud drums, seems to be the order of the day. Like the majority of heavy metal it all sounds the bloody same. The family is also rather obviously from the christian section of Lebanon. Every table had a large bottle of Johnny Walker front and centre, plenty of red and white and the above beer was kept up to me all evening. Also the women were dressed in whatever the opposite of a hijab is, for which I don’t blame them as it was fucking hot. Imagine dancing to Lebanese heavy metal whilst wearing a hijab when the temperature is 35 degrees – it would not be comfortable.
pics of the dancing costumes?
Just think flowing backless dresses which showed lots of leg. I did not take photos.
Oh, that’s a lot more daring than I was thinking. Shame about the music ruining a good night.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:pics of the dancing costumes?
Just think flowing backless dresses which showed lots of leg. I did not take photos.
Oh, that’s a lot more daring than I was thinking. Shame about the music ruining a good night.
It didn’t ruin it for most as they are not old, cranky curmudgeons.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:Modern restaurant dining is loud. Largely due to the proliferation of hard surfaces that create the impression of affluence, but bounce the noise around like a freaking aural super-ball. Take comfort in the knowledge that drinking alcohol closes down the ears.
I hate modern restaurants that try that shit on. I’ve walked out of a few without ordering.
Put some carpet down and some drapes along the walls you morons, I really don’t want to hear what the person across the other side of the room is rabbiting on about.
You oughta try it with my level of industrial deafness – My brain can’t distinguish a single word. It’s completely alienating.
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:Modern restaurant dining is loud. Largely due to the proliferation of hard surfaces that create the impression of affluence, but bounce the noise around like a freaking aural super-ball. Take comfort in the knowledge that drinking alcohol closes down the ears.
I hate modern restaurants that try that shit on. I’ve walked out of a few without ordering.
Put some carpet down and some drapes along the walls you morons, I really don’t want to hear what the person across the other side of the room is rabbiting on about.
You oughta try it with my level of industrial deafness – My brain can’t distinguish a single word. It’s completely alienating.
I don’t have industrial deafness as such, just the usual modern hearing damage from loud headphones as a teenager. I struggle to follow conversation in such circumstances too, restaurants with hard tile floors such for noise.
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:Modern restaurant dining is loud. Largely due to the proliferation of hard surfaces that create the impression of affluence, but bounce the noise around like a freaking aural super-ball. Take comfort in the knowledge that drinking alcohol closes down the ears.
I hate modern restaurants that try that shit on. I’ve walked out of a few without ordering.
Put some carpet down and some drapes along the walls you morons, I really don’t want to hear what the person across the other side of the room is rabbiting on about.
You oughta try it with my level of industrial deafness – My brain can’t distinguish a single word. It’s completely alienating.
When the music was playing this evening I just sat there and drank heavily. If someone tried to say something to me I just nodded, grinned inanely and took another drink . Couldn’t understand a word.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
You oughta try it with my level of industrial deafness – My brain can’t distinguish a single word. It’s completely alienating.
When the music was playing this evening I just sat there and drank heavily. If someone tried to say something to me I just nodded, grinned inanely and took another drink . Couldn’t understand a word.
I can only imagine how the staff cope with it.
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/06/asia/japan-immigration-bill-foreign-workers/index.html
Japan needs immigrants, but do immigrants need Japan?
sibeen said:
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Was drinking this Lebanese beer all evening. Like most pilseners it’s rather average. Drinkable, but average.
Bloody hell, do the Lebanese like it loud. I won’t be able to hear anything for the next day or so. Heavy metal version of middle eastern music, very heavy on the extremely loud drums, seems to be the order of the day. Like the majority of heavy metal it all sounds the bloody same. The family is also rather obviously from the christian section of Lebanon. Every table had a large bottle of Johnny Walker front and centre, plenty of red and white and the above beer was kept up to me all evening. Also the women were dressed in whatever the opposite of a hijab is, for which I don’t blame them as it was fucking hot. Imagine dancing to Lebanese heavy metal whilst wearing a hijab when the temperature is 35 degrees – it would not be comfortable.
Free piss and you’re home this early? Are you mad?
sibeen said:
. If someone tried to say something to me I just nodded, grinned inanely and took another drink . Couldn’t understand a word.
Proberlee coz it wasn’t in English.
Woodie said:
sibeen said:
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Was drinking this Lebanese beer all evening. Like most pilseners it’s rather average. Drinkable, but average.
Bloody hell, do the Lebanese like it loud. I won’t be able to hear anything for the next day or so. Heavy metal version of middle eastern music, very heavy on the extremely loud drums, seems to be the order of the day. Like the majority of heavy metal it all sounds the bloody same. The family is also rather obviously from the christian section of Lebanon. Every table had a large bottle of Johnny Walker front and centre, plenty of red and white and the above beer was kept up to me all evening. Also the women were dressed in whatever the opposite of a hijab is, for which I don’t blame them as it was fucking hot. Imagine dancing to Lebanese heavy metal whilst wearing a hijab when the temperature is 35 degrees – it would not be comfortable.
Free piss and you’re home this early? Are you mad?
The beer gets worse the more you drink, like most pilseners. I’m not a great fan.
dv said:
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/06/asia/japan-immigration-bill-foreign-workers/index.htmlJapan needs immigrants, but do immigrants need Japan?
I worked over there for a few weeks at a time on three or four occasions. Twenty odd years ago now. Really enjoyed it but was also well aware that I was on the company account and so everything was ‘free’. Was very expensive back then, although I’ve been told it has changed quite a bit.
sibeen said:
Woodie said:
sibeen said:
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Was drinking this Lebanese beer all evening. Like most pilseners it’s rather average. Drinkable, but average.
Bloody hell, do the Lebanese like it loud. I won’t be able to hear anything for the next day or so. Heavy metal version of middle eastern music, very heavy on the extremely loud drums, seems to be the order of the day. Like the majority of heavy metal it all sounds the bloody same. The family is also rather obviously from the christian section of Lebanon. Every table had a large bottle of Johnny Walker front and centre, plenty of red and white and the above beer was kept up to me all evening. Also the women were dressed in whatever the opposite of a hijab is, for which I don’t blame them as it was fucking hot. Imagine dancing to Lebanese heavy metal whilst wearing a hijab when the temperature is 35 degrees – it would not be comfortable.
Free piss and you’re home this early? Are you mad?
The beer gets worse the more you drink, like most pilseners. I’m not a great fan.
But but but…………………. Every table had a large bottle of Johnny Walker front and centre, plenty of red and white
Woodie said:
sibeen said:
Woodie said:Free piss and you’re home this early? Are you mad?
The beer gets worse the more you drink, like most pilseners. I’m not a great fan.
But but but…………………. Every table had a large bottle of Johnny Walker front and centre, plenty of red and white
It was 35 degrees outside and the wine wasn’t that great. The last time I drank a whisky was close to 40 years ago. I cannot stand the smell.
sibeen said:
The beer gets worse the more you drink, like most pilseners. I’m not a great fan.
I suspect the Pils we buy in Australia is probably stale and heat affected long before it makes it to the retailer.
sibeen said:
Woodie said:
sibeen said:The beer gets worse the more you drink, like most pilseners. I’m not a great fan.
But but but…………………. Every table had a large bottle of Johnny Walker front and centre, plenty of red and white
It was 35 degrees outside and the wine wasn’t that great. The last time I drank a whisky was close to 40 years ago. I cannot stand the smell.
you could have just alone in a corner and chugged red from a bottle.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
Woodie said:But but but…………………. Every table had a large bottle of Johnny Walker front and centre, plenty of red and white
It was 35 degrees outside and the wine wasn’t that great. The last time I drank a whisky was close to 40 years ago. I cannot stand the smell.
you could have just alone in a corner and chugged red from a bottle.
peers over glasses
Getting close to bed time.
Currently plotting a road trip up north for a couple of weeks (27/12-10/1). Looking forward to escaping the worst of the Summer tourists down here…
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
Woodie said:But but but…………………. Every table had a large bottle of Johnny Walker front and centre, plenty of red and white
It was 35 degrees outside and the wine wasn’t that great. The last time I drank a whisky was close to 40 years ago. I cannot stand the smell.
you could have just alone in a corner and chugged red from a bottle.
Because having SWMBO lose her shit is hilarious?
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:It was 35 degrees outside and the wine wasn’t that great. The last time I drank a whisky was close to 40 years ago. I cannot stand the smell.
you could have just alone in a corner and chugged red from a bottle.
Because having SWMBO lose her shit is hilarious?
I don’t have to deal with it.
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:you could have just alone in a corner and chugged red from a bottle.
Because having SWMBO lose her shit is hilarious?
I don’t have to deal with it.
He does make a good point.
I have a lovely bunch of coconuts.
Divine Angel said:
Schrodinger’s science.
Are there two sides of science? or is it the science side and the everything but science side?
dv said:
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/06/asia/japan-immigration-bill-foreign-workers/index.htmlJapan needs immigrants, but do immigrants need Japan?
I really cannot understand this argument that countries need more young people to pay for the non-working aged. Just supposed they do like Australia and permit high levels of immigration, will then then eventually reach another peak, when more people are required again? It is a never-ending cycle, but with a constantly increasing population. When is it going to end?
We are beginning to reach the age of robots that will repeatably make large numbers of people redundant, from the factory worker to vehicle drivers and white collar professionals, so why do you need more that will have little or no work to do? It is all just so crazy and poorly thought out. Bigger populations only benefit those in business to sell more goods and to grow bigger, but it does little for most of the people.
PermeateFree said:
dv said:
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/06/asia/japan-immigration-bill-foreign-workers/index.htmlJapan needs immigrants, but do immigrants need Japan?
I really cannot understand this argument that countries need more young people to pay for the non-working aged. Just supposed they do like Australia and permit high levels of immigration, will then then eventually reach another peak, when more people are required again? It is a never-ending cycle, but with a constantly increasing population. When is it going to end?
We are beginning to reach the age of robots that will repeatably make large numbers of people redundant, from the factory worker to vehicle drivers and white collar professionals, so why do you need more that will have little or no work to do? It is all just so crazy and poorly thought out. Bigger populations only benefit those in business to sell more goods and to grow bigger, but it does little for most of the people.
then then = it then
repeatably = reportably
PermeateFree said:
PermeateFree said:
dv said:
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/06/asia/japan-immigration-bill-foreign-workers/index.htmlJapan needs immigrants, but do immigrants need Japan?
I really cannot understand this argument that countries need more young people to pay for the non-working aged. Just supposed they do like Australia and permit high levels of immigration, will then then eventually reach another peak, when more people are required again? It is a never-ending cycle, but with a constantly increasing population. When is it going to end?
We are beginning to reach the age of robots that will repeatably make large numbers of people redundant, from the factory worker to vehicle drivers and white collar professionals, so why do you need more that will have little or no work to do? It is all just so crazy and poorly thought out. Bigger populations only benefit those in business to sell more goods and to grow bigger, but it does little for most of the people.
then then = it then
repeatably = reportably
Apparently reportably would be better expressed, as reportedly.
Should go to bed.


PermeateFree said:
rofl
19 degrees at 5am, heading for 28 with showers, possible storm, possible large hail. All that kerfuffle won’t be until the afternoon but I don’t think I’ll go for a morning walk today, it’s too humid.
Bubblecar said:
19 degrees at 5am, heading for 28 with showers, possible storm, possible large hail. All that kerfuffle won’t be until the afternoon but I don’t think I’ll go for a morning walk today, it’s too humid.
10° at nearly midday
grey skies
rain off and on all night and some this morning
I feel almost human again.
We’re back at staining cupboards and making messes. I have to make a flannel flower stencil.
kii said:
Bubblecar said:
19 degrees at 5am, heading for 28 with showers, possible storm, possible large hail. All that kerfuffle won’t be until the afternoon but I don’t think I’ll go for a morning walk today, it’s too humid.
10° at nearly midday
grey skies
rain off and on all night and some this morning
I feel almost human again.We’re back at staining cupboards and making messes. I have to make a flannel flower stencil.
Yeah I’m already sick of summer and it’s barely begun :/
Why are you making a flower stencil out of flannel?
Lunch is over…..mashed avo on toasted sourdough, some sea salt and a mug of strongish tea with a sploosh of milk
I really want to do some cooking, but it is not compatible with wood stains and drip cloths.
Bubblecar said:
kii said:
Bubblecar said:
19 degrees at 5am, heading for 28 with showers, possible storm, possible large hail. All that kerfuffle won’t be until the afternoon but I don’t think I’ll go for a morning walk today, it’s too humid.
10° at nearly midday
grey skies
rain off and on all night and some this morning
I feel almost human again.We’re back at staining cupboards and making messes. I have to make a flannel flower stencil.
Yeah I’m already sick of summer and it’s barely begun :/
Why are you making a flower stencil out of flannel?
No, no…making a stencil of a flannel flower :P
Strawberry-flavoured camphor-based lip balm is always weird, but I kinda like it and now wonder if an exciting dessert can be made with it.
kii said:
Bubblecar said:
kii said:10° at nearly midday
grey skies
rain off and on all night and some this morning
I feel almost human again.We’re back at staining cupboards and making messes. I have to make a flannel flower stencil.
Yeah I’m already sick of summer and it’s barely begun :/
Why are you making a flower stencil out of flannel?
No, no…making a stencil of a flannel flower :P
Ah.

kii said:
Lunch is over…..mashed avo on toasted sourdough, some sea salt and a mug of strongish tea with a sploosh of milkI really want to do some cooking, but it is not compatible with wood stains and drip cloths.
I’m on a semi-fasting diet to lose more weight before the pre-Xmas lunch on Saturday the 15th.
And then make sure I don’t just pack it all back on over Xmas.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 18 degrees and overcast. I think I heard about 5 drops of “rain”. Just as well I watered last evening. The koala and her baby seem to have left the backyard.
Bubblecar said:
19 degrees at 5am, heading for 28 with showers, possible storm, possible large hail. All that kerfuffle won’t be until the afternoon but I don’t think I’ll go for a morning walk today, it’s too humid.
Our next forecast rain is not until Thursday.
Bubblecar said:
kii said:
Bubblecar said:Yeah I’m already sick of summer and it’s barely begun :/
Why are you making a flower stencil out of flannel?
No, no…making a stencil of a flannel flower :P
Ah.
The petals have a texture like felt/flannel. They are weird.
I might put on some clothes and go and prepare an area to plant out some chilli plants. It only needs a little light weeding, some ash dug in and a light turnover. I’ve got some plants from seed that mv sent me.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
kii said:No, no…making a stencil of a flannel flower :P
Ah.
The petals have a texture like felt/flannel. They are weird.
I might put on some clothes and go and prepare an area to plant out some chilli plants. It only needs a little light weeding, some ash dug in and a light turnover. I’ve got some plants from seed that mv sent me.
You don’t garden whilst nekkid?
Bubblecar said:
kii said:
Bubblecar said:Yeah I’m already sick of summer and it’s barely begun :/
Why are you making a flower stencil out of flannel?
No, no…making a stencil of a flannel flower :P
Ah.
My precious flowers 💚🌼
kii said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:Ah.
The petals have a texture like felt/flannel. They are weird.
I might put on some clothes and go and prepare an area to plant out some chilli plants. It only needs a little light weeding, some ash dug in and a light turnover. I’ve got some plants from seed that mv sent me.
You don’t garden whilst nekkid?
Mosquitoes don’t get all of me to feed on…
And we just got another half a dozen spots of rain. Definitely not enough to stop me.
Good morning.
Coolish, (22.3°C, 72% RH) overcast and windy. ORB = 12 mm. BoM reckons 25°C and a little bit of rain.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
kii said:No, no…making a stencil of a flannel flower :P
Ah.
The petals have a texture like felt/flannel. They are weird.
I might put on some clothes and go and prepare an area to plant out some chilli plants. It only needs a little light weeding, some ash dug in and a light turnover. I’ve got some plants from seed that mv sent me.
Oooh!
:)
Michael V said:
Good morning.Coolish, (22.3°C, 72% RH) overcast and windy. ORB = 12 mm. BoM reckons 25°C and a little bit of rain.
So that’s 55 mm total in the last four days. No need for watering. Yet.
And for Mr Car, here is my ADSL speed test this morning. We seen to have remarkably consistent speeds, morning afternoon or night – between 16.7 and 17.1 Mb/s. Mostly almost bang on 17.0 Mb/s.
http://www.speedtest.net/result/7862121837.png
Michael V said:
And for Mr Car, here is my ADSL speed test this morning. We seen to have remarkably consistent speeds, morning afternoon or night – between 16.7 and 17.1 Mb/s. Mostly almost bang on 17.0 Mb/s.http://www.speedtest.net/result/7862121837.png
We’re getting 19 Mb/s here via NBN. What speeds were we promised again?
Michael V said:
And for Mr Car, here is my ADSL speed test this morning. We seen to have remarkably consistent speeds, morning afternoon or night – between 16.7 and 17.1 Mb/s. Mostly almost bang on 17.0 Mb/s.http://www.speedtest.net/result/7862121837.png

Sorry.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
And for Mr Car, here is my ADSL speed test this morning. We seen to have remarkably consistent speeds, morning afternoon or night – between 16.7 and 17.1 Mb/s. Mostly almost bang on 17.0 Mb/s.http://www.speedtest.net/result/7862121837.png
We’re getting 19 Mb/s here via NBN. What speeds were we promised again?
Near infinite, I think B.C. described it as.
I wondered if it’s possible to buy flannel-flower seeds. It seems that it may be, sometimes, but everyone is out of stock right now, and that growing flannel-flowers from seed is ‘unreliable’, anyway.
We have windy rainy cold. I’ve closed up the house, stopped staining wood and turned the heaters on.
Now I will do some cooking. Vegetable stew :D
mr kii’s new appreciation of his bowels has him getting excited about vegetables.
Grace and I just danced to……Miss You… as it popped up on Pandora. We had it turned up loud.
kii said:
We have windy rainy cold. I’ve closed up the house, stopped staining wood and turned the heaters on.Now I will do some cooking. Vegetable stew :D
mr kii’s new appreciation of his bowels has him getting excited about vegetables.
Grace and I just danced to……Miss You… as it popped up on Pandora. We had it turned up loud.
I was going to ask your advice on nice wood staining after we inherited a large mirror for the bathroom. It may have been off a 1960s or 1970s dressing table. I cleaned it all up, but the mirror had severe reflection imperfections, so the project was abandoned. The thin wooden frame would have been nice with one of your colour treatments.
:(
I want to find two golf-ball or smaller size, hard plastic or timber spheres. I’d get golf balls if there were a golf club nearby. Any suggestions?
Morning all.
Speaking of drug cheating (ref conversation with Poik last night) Lance Armstrong is believed to have invested $100,000 in Uber when it was worth $3.7mil. If my calculations and the current valuation of $120bil are correct, he’s made $3.2bil on it.
Michael V said:
I want to find two golf-ball or smaller size, hard plastic or timber spheres. I’d get golf balls if there were a golf club nearby. Any suggestions?
Op Shop?
Morning punters and correctors.
Overcast and cool in the Pearl of the South Specific this morning.
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:
I want to find two golf-ball or smaller size, hard plastic or timber spheres. I’d get golf balls if there were a golf club nearby. Any suggestions?
Op Shop?
None here.
:(
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:
I want to find two golf-ball or smaller size, hard plastic or timber spheres. I’d get golf balls if there were a golf club nearby. Any suggestions?
Op Shop?
None here.
:(
Everytime I go for a walk, I pick up a golf ball or two.
Rule 303 said:
Morning all.Speaking of drug cheating (ref conversation with Poik last night) Lance Armstrong is believed to have invested $100,000 in Uber when it was worth $3.7mil. If my calculations and the current valuation of $120bil are correct, he’s made $3.2bil on it.
Bloody good return. I should’ve done that too.
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:
I want to find two golf-ball or smaller size, hard plastic or timber spheres. I’d get golf balls if there were a golf club nearby. Any suggestions?
Op Shop?
None here.
:(
What are you going to do with them?
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Morning all.Speaking of drug cheating (ref conversation with Poik last night) Lance Armstrong is believed to have invested $100,000 in Uber when it was worth $3.7mil. If my calculations and the current valuation of $120bil are correct, he’s made $3.2bil on it.
Bloody good return. I should’ve done that too.
I recall when Steve Jobs offered shares in Apple for $1. I’m still kicking myself for not buying 100 of them.
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:Op Shop?
None here.
:(
What are you going to do with them?
They’ll become protective knobs on the end of sporks that are becoming coat-hooks.
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:
I want to find two golf-ball or smaller size, hard plastic or timber spheres. I’d get golf balls if there were a golf club nearby. Any suggestions?
Op Shop?
None here.
:(
Toy shop, bead shop, sewing shop, trash ‘n treasure market, sex toy shop.
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:Op Shop?
None here.
:(
Toy shop, bead shop, sewing shop, trash ‘n treasure market, sex toy shop.
None here.
This is a holiday village of 1000 people, with the nearest substantial population 75 km away. We have an IGA, a butcher, two pie shops, two fishing supplies shops (both with limited hardware) several surf shops, several cafes two clubs and two fuel suppliers.
I might be stuck with hand-shaping a couple of bits of cedar. Or cutting the tines off the sporks.
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:None here.
:(
Toy shop, bead shop, sewing shop, trash ‘n treasure market, sex toy shop.
None here.
This is a holiday village of 1000 people, with the nearest substantial population 75 km away. We have an IGA, a butcher, two pie shops, two fishing supplies shops (both with limited hardware) several surf shops, several cafes two clubs and two fuel suppliers.
I might be stuck with hand-shaping a couple of bits of cedar. Or cutting the tines off the sporks.
WTF’s a spork?
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:None here.
:(
Toy shop, bead shop, sewing shop, trash ‘n treasure market, sex toy shop.
None here.
This is a holiday village of 1000 people, with the nearest substantial population 75 km away. We have an IGA, a butcher, two pie shops, two fishing supplies shops (both with limited hardware) several surf shops, several cafes two clubs and two fuel suppliers.
I might be stuck with hand-shaping a couple of bits of cedar. Or cutting the tines off the sporks.
Or heating a kids marble and melting it into the tines.
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:None here.
:(
Toy shop, bead shop, sewing shop, trash ‘n treasure market, sex toy shop.
None here.
This is a holiday village of 1000 people, with the nearest substantial population 75 km away. We have an IGA, a butcher, two pie shops, two fishing supplies shops (both with limited hardware) several surf shops, several cafes two clubs and two fuel suppliers.
I might be stuck with hand-shaping a couple of bits of cedar. Or cutting the tines off the sporks.
If you glue knobs on sporks, the removing of coats will pull the knobs off. Need to rivet the knobs on somehow.
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:Toy shop, bead shop, sewing shop, trash ‘n treasure market, sex toy shop.
None here.
This is a holiday village of 1000 people, with the nearest substantial population 75 km away. We have an IGA, a butcher, two pie shops, two fishing supplies shops (both with limited hardware) several surf shops, several cafes two clubs and two fuel suppliers.
I might be stuck with hand-shaping a couple of bits of cedar. Or cutting the tines off the sporks.
WTF’s a spork?
cross between a spoon and a fork.
Fishing floats or sinkers?
these any good? got a threaded hole, porcelain type drawer knobs. 25mm dia.
Rule 303 said:
Fishing floats or sinkers?
Sinkers are no good. The lead will stain the clothes and maybe endanger the humans wearing them.
Gum nuts, Acorns, Macadamia nuts?
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:Op Shop?
None here.
:(
Everytime I go for a walk, I pick up a golf ball or two.
The 40mm grenade launcher (e.g. M79, M203) came out of an idea from the late 1950s.
The concept was, reportedly, demonstrated in the centre courtyard of the Pentagon by the officer who thought of it, using a tube, a spring, and a golf ball.
It was considered that the gof ball size was appropriate for the projectile. The programme to develop it was given the name ‘Project Niblick’.
Bogsnorkler said:
these any good? got a threaded hole, porcelain type drawer knobs. 25mm dia.
They’d be great if he soldered a bit of thread on each spork.
Rule 303 said:
Gum nuts, Acorns, Macadamia nuts?
Marri has the big nuts.
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:Toy shop, bead shop, sewing shop, trash ‘n treasure market, sex toy shop.
None here.
This is a holiday village of 1000 people, with the nearest substantial population 75 km away. We have an IGA, a butcher, two pie shops, two fishing supplies shops (both with limited hardware) several surf shops, several cafes two clubs and two fuel suppliers.
I might be stuck with hand-shaping a couple of bits of cedar. Or cutting the tines off the sporks.
WTF’s a spork?
Like a splayd, but without a cutting edge. A combination spoon and fork.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:Toy shop, bead shop, sewing shop, trash ‘n treasure market, sex toy shop.
None here.
This is a holiday village of 1000 people, with the nearest substantial population 75 km away. We have an IGA, a butcher, two pie shops, two fishing supplies shops (both with limited hardware) several surf shops, several cafes two clubs and two fuel suppliers.
I might be stuck with hand-shaping a couple of bits of cedar. Or cutting the tines off the sporks.
If you glue knobs on sporks, the removing of coats will pull the knobs off. Need to rivet the knobs on somehow.
I would’ve thought epoxy would work.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:None here.
This is a holiday village of 1000 people, with the nearest substantial population 75 km away. We have an IGA, a butcher, two pie shops, two fishing supplies shops (both with limited hardware) several surf shops, several cafes two clubs and two fuel suppliers.
I might be stuck with hand-shaping a couple of bits of cedar. Or cutting the tines off the sporks.
WTF’s a spork?
Like a splayd, but without a cutting edge. A combination spoon and fork.
I wish they’d called them ‘foons’ instead.
Rule 303 said:
Fishing floats or sinkers?
Ah!
There’s an idea, thanks.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:None here.
This is a holiday village of 1000 people, with the nearest substantial population 75 km away. We have an IGA, a butcher, two pie shops, two fishing supplies shops (both with limited hardware) several surf shops, several cafes two clubs and two fuel suppliers.
I might be stuck with hand-shaping a couple of bits of cedar. Or cutting the tines off the sporks.
If you glue knobs on sporks, the removing of coats will pull the knobs off. Need to rivet the knobs on somehow.
I would’ve thought epoxy would work.
Yeah, epoxy is good but not infallible.Depends a lot on the surfaces being glued. If you do use araldite types, get the one that takes three days to cure properly.
Good morning boys club.
Daycare Xmas party today, at a local pool. Bit cool for swimming but I’m grateful for some cooler weather.
All aboard the outrage plane today… Qantas want their ground staff to work for free over the busiest time of the year. Bastards.
Anyhoo, better feed Mini Me.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:WTF’s a spork?
Like a splayd, but without a cutting edge. A combination spoon and fork.
I wish they’d called them ‘foons’ instead.
Then you’d be able to foon up your fpaghetti.
Rule 303 said:
Gum nuts, Acorns, Macadamia nuts?
Macadamia!
Good idea. I have some from Woodie’s place. I’ll try that.
Thanks.
:)
Divine Angel said:
Good morning boys club.Daycare Xmas party today, at a local pool. Bit cool for swimming but I’m grateful for some cooler weather.
All aboard the outrage plane today… Qantas want their ground staff to work for free over the busiest time of the year. Bastards.
Anyhoo, better feed Mini Me.
Has Alan Joyce offered to not receive is mega-millions salary over the same period?
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:None here.
This is a holiday village of 1000 people, with the nearest substantial population 75 km away. We have an IGA, a butcher, two pie shops, two fishing supplies shops (both with limited hardware) several surf shops, several cafes two clubs and two fuel suppliers.
I might be stuck with hand-shaping a couple of bits of cedar. Or cutting the tines off the sporks.
If you glue knobs on sporks, the removing of coats will pull the knobs off. Need to rivet the knobs on somehow.
I would’ve thought epoxy would work.
sikaflex is your friend.
Divine Angel said:
Good morning boys club.Daycare Xmas party today, at a local pool. Bit cool for swimming but I’m grateful for some cooler weather.
All aboard the outrage plane today… Qantas want their ground staff to work for free over the busiest time of the year. Bastards.
Anyhoo, better feed Mini Me.
Morning gils. ;)
I suppose I’d better put some clothes on. I’m the irrigation manager for a nearby citrus orchard today and I better do the job properly because it is going to be hot and dry.Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Gum nuts, Acorns, Macadamia nuts?
Macadamia!
Good idea. I have some from Woodie’s place. I’ll try that.
Thanks.
:)
drill them straight through. cut all but one tine off, shape the other to go through the nut and bend the end of the tine up.
“ More than 30 shots fired as Launceston siege enters second day
A stand-off between police and a man and woman enters its second day, at the same Launceston house where a woman was shot in the leg last Wednesday, with police pleading for the pair to surrender.” – ABC News
Give it up, people. These things end in one of only two ways: the ‘besieged’ dead, or the ‘besieged’ under arrest. Make your choice, and let everyone outside go home.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:If you glue knobs on sporks, the removing of coats will pull the knobs off. Need to rivet the knobs on somehow.
I would’ve thought epoxy would work.
sikaflex is your friend.
Yeah.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Gum nuts, Acorns, Macadamia nuts?
Macadamia!
Good idea. I have some from Woodie’s place. I’ll try that.
Thanks.
:)
drill them straight through. cut all but one tine off, shape the other to go through the nut and bend the end of the tine up.
Sporks don’t have very long tines, IIRC.
captain_spalding said:
Divine Angel said:
Good morning boys club.Daycare Xmas party today, at a local pool. Bit cool for swimming but I’m grateful for some cooler weather.
All aboard the outrage plane today… Qantas want their ground staff to work for free over the busiest time of the year. Bastards.
Anyhoo, better feed Mini Me.
Has Alan Joyce offered to not receive is mega-millions salary over the same period?
The news articles don’t say, but I’m gonna hazard a guess and say no.
captain_spalding said:
“ More than 30 shots fired as Launceston siege enters second dayA stand-off between police and a man and woman enters its second day, at the same Launceston house where a woman was shot in the leg last Wednesday, with police pleading for the pair to surrender.” – ABC News
Give it up, people. These things end in one of only two ways: the ‘besieged’ dead, or the ‘besieged’ under arrest. Make your choice, and let everyone outside go home.
They can’t have a house full of ammo.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:Macadamia!
Good idea. I have some from Woodie’s place. I’ll try that.
Thanks.
:)
drill them straight through. cut all but one tine off, shape the other to go through the nut and bend the end of the tine up.
Sporks don’t have very long tines, IIRC.
They don’t, which is why I said it would have to be shaped to fit.
Just after I finished high school, there was a siege two doors down from my house. A guy had his mother holed up with a spear gun. The street was closed and police everywhere. We weren’t allowed to leave the house. It was all very exciting.
He was arrested, his elderly mother was ok.
Morning Saturdays. :)
21.5C & 68% indoors
22.9C & 66% outdoors
1023 hPa and steady
Trending cloudy
Headed for 25C
3 moolies to report.
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:
these any good? got a threaded hole, porcelain type drawer knobs. 25mm dia.
They’d be great if he soldered a bit of thread on each spork.
Brazed. Stainless won’t hold solder, unfortunately.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:WTF’s a spork?
Like a splayd, but without a cutting edge. A combination spoon and fork.
I wish they’d called them ‘foons’ instead.
:)
Why don’t kids’ car booster seats have steering wheels and levers and pedals?
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:
these any good? got a threaded hole, porcelain type drawer knobs. 25mm dia.
They’d be great if he soldered a bit of thread on each spork.
Brazed. Stainless won’t hold solder, unfortunately.
You need a liquid flux.
PWM—————————>Bunnings
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Gum nuts, Acorns, Macadamia nuts?
Macadamia!
Good idea. I have some from Woodie’s place. I’ll try that.
Thanks.
:)
Macadamia may be just a tad small (I got a few and checked), but I’ll go try it in a few minutes. Drill four holes…
captain_spalding said:
“ More than 30 shots fired as Launceston siege enters second dayA stand-off between police and a man and woman enters its second day, at the same Launceston house where a woman was shot in the leg last Wednesday, with police pleading for the pair to surrender.” – ABC News
Give it up, people. These things end in one of only two ways: the ‘besieged’ dead, or the ‘besieged’ under arrest. Make your choice, and let everyone outside go home.
Yup.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:Macadamia!
Good idea. I have some from Woodie’s place. I’ll try that.
Thanks.
:)
drill them straight through. cut all but one tine off, shape the other to go through the nut and bend the end of the tine up.
Sporks don’t have very long tines, IIRC.
Yeah. Too short for that.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:
these any good? got a threaded hole, porcelain type drawer knobs. 25mm dia.
They’d be great if he soldered a bit of thread on each spork.
Brazed. Stainless won’t hold solder, unfortunately.
yeah sorry. hard soldered. ;)
Rule 303 said:
Why don’t kids’ car booster seats have steering wheels and levers and pedals?
Because that only gives them more ways to distract the driver.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:They’d be great if he soldered a bit of thread on each spork.
Brazed. Stainless won’t hold solder, unfortunately.
You need a liquid flux.
I generally use Baker’s Fluid (ZnCl solution). Have you found a liquid flux that works on chromium oxide (the offending surface problem)?
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:Brazed. Stainless won’t hold solder, unfortunately.
You need a liquid flux.
I generally use Baker’s Fluid (ZnCl solution). Have you found a liquid flux that works on chromium oxide (the offending surface problem)?
A file. Rough up the surface. Bakers flux works very well but make sure you wash it off well.
captain_spalding said:
Give it up, people. These things end in one of only two ways: the ‘besieged’ dead, or the ‘besieged’ under arrest. Make your choice, and let everyone outside go home.
I don’t think those that hold out like that think that logically. More likely demanding a police escort and getaway car straight to the airport and a learjet on standby to go straight to South America or sumfin’. You know, like they do on the movies.
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:
Why don’t kids’ car booster seats have steering wheels and levers and pedals?
Because that only gives them more ways to distract the driver.
More distracting than the hijinx they pull when they’re bored?
We’ve been watching Maggie go ‘beep beep’ on a pretend steering wheel (in the opening to The Simpsons) for 25 years, but somehow I’ve never seen this idea IRL.
Rule 303 said:
Why don’t kids’ car booster seats have steering wheels and levers and pedals?
They do.

Peak Warming Man said:
PWM—————————>Bunnings
have a look at lathe chisels while you’re there.
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:Brazed. Stainless won’t hold solder, unfortunately.
You need a liquid flux.
I generally use Baker’s Fluid (ZnCl solution). Have you found a liquid flux that works on chromium oxide (the offending surface problem)?
Haven’t done a lot of SS soldering, just a few small bits. For that, i found that a good scrubbing of the surface with a little SS wire brush i had would remove enough of the oxide to let the flux work.
Woodie said:
captain_spalding said:Give it up, people. These things end in one of only two ways: the ‘besieged’ dead, or the ‘besieged’ under arrest. Make your choice, and let everyone outside go home.
I don’t think those that hold out like that think that logically. More likely demanding a police escort and getaway car straight to the airport and a learjet on standby to go straight to South America or sumfin’. You know, like they do on the movies.
Yeah, it always works out so well in the movies, too.
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:drill them straight through. cut all but one tine off, shape the other to go through the nut and bend the end of the tine up.
Sporks don’t have very long tines, IIRC.
Yeah. Too short for that.
What’s wrong with these from Bunnings? $10.80 ea
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/ned-kelly-setting-the-story-straight-at-stringybark-creek-20181205-p50kck.html

‘ Breaking news Armed officers have escorted two people from a Launceston house where a man and woman had held police at bay for over 17 hours.’
‘Armed officers have stormed a Launceston house where a man and woman have held police at bay for more than 17 hours, with several shots and loud bangs heard during the raid.’ – ABC News
It’s Saturday. Tas Police probably decided that they couldn’t afford the overtime/penalty rates.
Michael V said:
kii said:
We have windy rainy cold. I’ve closed up the house, stopped staining wood and turned the heaters on.Now I will do some cooking. Vegetable stew :D
mr kii’s new appreciation of his bowels has him getting excited about vegetables.
Grace and I just danced to……Miss You… as it popped up on Pandora. We had it turned up loud.
I was going to ask your advice on nice wood staining after we inherited a large mirror for the bathroom. It may have been off a 1960s or 1970s dressing table. I cleaned it all up, but the mirror had severe reflection imperfections, so the project was abandoned. The thin wooden frame would have been nice with one of your colour treatments.
:(
Oooo……photos?
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:None here.
:(
What are you going to do with them?
They’ll become protective knobs on the end of sporks that are becoming coat-hooks.
UPCYCLING!!!!
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:None here.
:(
Toy shop, bead shop, sewing shop, trash ‘n treasure market, sex toy shop.
None here.
This is a holiday village of 1000 people, with the nearest substantial population 75 km away. We have an IGA, a butcher, two pie shops, two fishing supplies shops (both with limited hardware) several surf shops, several cafes two clubs and two fuel suppliers.
I might be stuck with hand-shaping a couple of bits of cedar. Or cutting the tines off the sporks.
How about ordering something suitable from the Intertubes?
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:You need a liquid flux.
I generally use Baker’s Fluid (ZnCl solution). Have you found a liquid flux that works on chromium oxide (the offending surface problem)?
Haven’t done a lot of SS soldering, just a few small bits. For that, i found that a good scrubbing of the surface with a little SS wire brush i had would remove enough of the oxide to let the flux work.
yep
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:Sporks don’t have very long tines, IIRC.
Yeah. Too short for that.
What’s wrong with these from Bunnings? $10.80 ea
The money. He’s willing to spend fifty bucks worth of time on each rather than pay $10.80 for one.
captain_spalding said:
It’s Saturday. Tas Police probably decided that they couldn’t afford the overtime/penalty rates.
Sounds fair
thunder detector, fireworks happening, rattling everything
massive long boom woke me up last night
Had the pleasure of doing a minor repair to this yesterday.
Edward Harriƒon or Harrison, was in business making clocks in Warrington between 1769 -1795. Clock is actually 1788.
transition said:
thunder detector, fireworks happening, rattling everything
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massive long boom woke me up last night
Lovely photo but did you get any rain out of it?
roughbarked said:
transition said:
thunder detector, fireworks happening, rattling everything
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massive long boom woke me up last night
Lovely photo but did you get any rain out of it?
just coming now, big rain drops
fucken hail
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:You need a liquid flux.
I generally use Baker’s Fluid (ZnCl solution). Have you found a liquid flux that works on chromium oxide (the offending surface problem)?
Haven’t done a lot of SS soldering, just a few small bits. For that, i found that a good scrubbing of the surface with a little SS wire brush i had would remove enough of the oxide to let the flux work.
OK, thanks. I’ve had no luck, but then I don’t have a tiny S/S brush…
dv said:
Spike Milligan said:
‘You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, and that’s just long enough to become President of the united States’.
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:I generally use Baker’s Fluid (ZnCl solution). Have you found a liquid flux that works on chromium oxide (the offending surface problem)?
Haven’t done a lot of SS soldering, just a few small bits. For that, i found that a good scrubbing of the surface with a little SS wire brush i had would remove enough of the oxide to let the flux work.
OK, thanks. I’ve had no luck, but then I don’t have a tiny S/S brush…
Maybe a file, like roughie suggested?
I’m drunk.
kii said:
I’m drunk.
That’s the spirit!
transition said:
fucken hail
You mean the kind that strips things bare and fucks them?
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:I generally use Baker’s Fluid (ZnCl solution). Have you found a liquid flux that works on chromium oxide (the offending surface problem)?
Haven’t done a lot of SS soldering, just a few small bits. For that, i found that a good scrubbing of the surface with a little SS wire brush i had would remove enough of the oxide to let the flux work.
OK, thanks. I’ve had no luck, but then I don’t have a tiny S/S brush…
—> Bunnings.
kii said:
I’m drunk.
Hi.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:Haven’t done a lot of SS soldering, just a few small bits. For that, i found that a good scrubbing of the surface with a little SS wire brush i had would remove enough of the oxide to let the flux work.
OK, thanks. I’ve had no luck, but then I don’t have a tiny S/S brush…
Maybe a file, like roughie suggested?
It works. ;)
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:Sporks don’t have very long tines, IIRC.
Yeah. Too short for that.
What’s wrong with these from Bunnings? $10.80 ea
It’s a bit like you keeping the fridge running for 12 months to keep a bag of ice in it. The 150 km round trip is just not worth it. So, I’m trying to come up with something out of my junk pile. Not very successfully. But the re-shaped bent spork looks good so far.
Bogsnorkler said:
kii said:
I’m drunk.
That’s the spirit!
How very bacchanalian.
Bogsnorkler said:
kii said:
I’m drunk.
That’s the spirit!
It’s what happens when you need 1/2 a glass of white wine for a recipe.
See what happens when you use recipes?
See what happens when you’re left home alone while mr kii helps the plumbers at Mr PTSD’s haunted mansion?
party_pants said:
kii said:
I’m drunk.
Hi.
Hi……………………………*falls off chair *
Bogsnorkler said:
:)
I love the way there’s so many NOs there to trigger the thinking towards “NO” as the answer…
:)
Michael V said:
Woodie said:
Michael V said:Yeah. Too short for that.
What’s wrong with these from Bunnings? $10.80 ea
It’s a bit like you keeping the fridge running for 12 months to keep a bag of ice in it. The 150 km round trip is just not worth it. So, I’m trying to come up with something out of my junk pile. Not very successfully. But the re-shaped bent spork looks good so far.
Put the sporks in a vice. Cut a slot in a pipe spanner, slip the slot on the spork after you heat the end of the spork in the oxy and roll the tines of the spork so that it makes a circular shape with the tines pointing down and out. Retemper.
kii said:
party_pants said:
kii said:
I’m drunk.
Hi.
Hi……………………………*falls off chair *
Watch that dodgy knee.
Gawd this sauce is good……………
https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2012/11/smitten-kitchens-harvest-roast-chicken-with-grapes-olives-shallots.html
kii said:
Michael V said:
kii said:
We have windy rainy cold. I’ve closed up the house, stopped staining wood and turned the heaters on.Now I will do some cooking. Vegetable stew :D
mr kii’s new appreciation of his bowels has him getting excited about vegetables.
Grace and I just danced to……Miss You… as it popped up on Pandora. We had it turned up loud.
I was going to ask your advice on nice wood staining after we inherited a large mirror for the bathroom. It may have been off a 1960s or 1970s dressing table. I cleaned it all up, but the mirror had severe reflection imperfections, so the project was abandoned. The thin wooden frame would have been nice with one of your colour treatments.
:(
Oooo……photos?
Um, no. But I should start using the happy snapper again, seeing the new laptop has a card reader…
I’ll see what I can do after catching up and having a bit of a rest.
sure could smell ozone then
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:
Michael V said:Yeah. Too short for that.
What’s wrong with these from Bunnings? $10.80 ea
The money. He’s willing to spend fifty bucks worth of time on each rather than pay $10.80 for one.
My time’s worth nothing if nobody’s prepared to pay for it. And a 150 km round trip has to be added into the equation.
kii said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:Toy shop, bead shop, sewing shop, trash ‘n treasure market, sex toy shop.
None here.
This is a holiday village of 1000 people, with the nearest substantial population 75 km away. We have an IGA, a butcher, two pie shops, two fishing supplies shops (both with limited hardware) several surf shops, several cafes two clubs and two fuel suppliers.
I might be stuck with hand-shaping a couple of bits of cedar. Or cutting the tines off the sporks.
How about ordering something suitable from the Intertubes?
Possibly.
roughbarked said:
Had the pleasure of doing a minor repair to this yesterday.
Edward Harriƒon or Harrison, was in business making clocks in Warrington between 1769 -1795. Clock is actually 1788.
Nice.
:)
roughbarked said:
Had the pleasure of doing a minor repair to this yesterday.
Edward Harriƒon or Harrison, was in business making clocks in Warrington between 1769 -1795. Clock is actually 1788.
https://wmag.culturewarrington.org/2018/04/03/the-harrison-confusion/
dv said:
Evidence of a nasty, mean-spirited person.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:Haven’t done a lot of SS soldering, just a few small bits. For that, i found that a good scrubbing of the surface with a little SS wire brush i had would remove enough of the oxide to let the flux work.
OK, thanks. I’ve had no luck, but then I don’t have a tiny S/S brush…
Maybe a file, like roughie suggested?
I’ll keep these solutions in mind for the next time I do some stainless steel soldering. Actually…
Hmmm. (Has a small thought.)
kii said:
I’m drunk.
Thumbs up.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:Haven’t done a lot of SS soldering, just a few small bits. For that, i found that a good scrubbing of the surface with a little SS wire brush i had would remove enough of the oxide to let the flux work.
OK, thanks. I’ve had no luck, but then I don’t have a tiny S/S brush…
—> Bunnings.
sigh
It’s a long way to Tipperary.
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:OK, thanks. I’ve had no luck, but then I don’t have a tiny S/S brush…
Maybe a file, like roughie suggested?
I’ll keep these solutions in mind for the next time I do some stainless steel soldering. Actually…
Hmmm. (Has a small thought.)
I tend to prefer using silver solder. However, the heat tends to change the colour of the steel. If you can rough the surface and get lots of flux on it, soft solder with a higgh silver content does work well.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:OK, thanks. I’ve had no luck, but then I don’t have a tiny S/S brush…
—> Bunnings.
sigh
It’s a long way to Tipperary.
I’ve actually bought a pack of three giant size toothbrushes brass, steel and stainless steel all with wooden handles for $2 at the local cheap shit shops like not the rejecct shop but something similar.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Woodie said:What’s wrong with these from Bunnings? $10.80 ea
It’s a bit like you keeping the fridge running for 12 months to keep a bag of ice in it. The 150 km round trip is just not worth it. So, I’m trying to come up with something out of my junk pile. Not very successfully. But the re-shaped bent spork looks good so far.
Put the sporks in a vice. Cut a slot in a pipe spanner, slip the slot on the spork after you heat the end of the spork in the oxy and roll the tines of the spork so that it makes a circular shape with the tines pointing down and out. Retemper.
I may need a picture. I can’t figure out what you mean by the words.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:It’s a bit like you keeping the fridge running for 12 months to keep a bag of ice in it. The 150 km round trip is just not worth it. So, I’m trying to come up with something out of my junk pile. Not very successfully. But the re-shaped bent spork looks good so far.
Put the sporks in a vice. Cut a slot in a pipe spanner, slip the slot on the spork after you heat the end of the spork in the oxy and roll the tines of the spork so that it makes a circular shape with the tines pointing down and out. Retemper.
I may need a picture. I can’t figure out what you mean by the words.
https://www.wikihow.com/Bend-Fork-Tines-Back-Into-Shape
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:Put the sporks in a vice. Cut a slot in a pipe spanner, slip the slot on the spork after you heat the end of the spork in the oxy and roll the tines of the spork so that it makes a circular shape with the tines pointing down and out. Retemper.
I may need a picture. I can’t figure out what you mean by the words.
https://www.wikihow.com/Bend-Fork-Tines-Back-Into-Shape
I know, I know. It isn’t the right pictures but consider rolling all the tines towards the handle and around so they make a loop. they rpobably aren’t long enough and maybe a bit thick but a touch between each tine with a thin angle grinder blade will change all of that.
They are images that shed new light on the private life of the world’s most famous female artist.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-08/cache-of-long-lost-photographs-reveal-secrets-of-frida-kahlo/10585608
OK, I’m a philistine. I’d heard of her, and read a short biography of her at some stage, but if I’d been asked to name the worlds most famous female artist she wouldn’t have come to mind. Then again no-one would have.
If I was asked the same thing about the most famous male artist I’d probably reel off a few names of dead people that I’ve heard of.
sibeen said:
They are images that shed new light on the private life of the world’s most famous female artist.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-08/cache-of-long-lost-photographs-reveal-secrets-of-frida-kahlo/10585608
OK, I’m a philistine. I’d heard of her, and read a short biography of her at some stage, but if I’d been asked to name the worlds most famous female artist she wouldn’t have come to mind. Then again no-one would have.
If I was asked the same thing about the most famous male artist I’d probably reel off a few names of dead people that I’ve heard of.
I can think of female artists and photographers but her name wasn’t on the list in my head. It is a first for me as well.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:I may need a picture. I can’t figure out what you mean by the words.
https://www.wikihow.com/Bend-Fork-Tines-Back-Into-Shape
I know, I know. It isn’t the right pictures but consider rolling all the tines towards the handle and around so they make a loop. they rpobably aren’t long enough and maybe a bit thick but a touch between each tine with a thin angle grinder blade will change all of that.
Anyway, why use the tines of the spork as the hook end? The handle end or even a set of real spoons could be better. Is it that you only have a set of sporks to work with?
Michael V said:
kii said:
Michael V said:I was going to ask your advice on nice wood staining after we inherited a large mirror for the bathroom. It may have been off a 1960s or 1970s dressing table. I cleaned it all up, but the mirror had severe reflection imperfections, so the project was abandoned. The thin wooden frame would have been nice with one of your colour treatments.
:(
Oooo……photos?
Um, no. But I should start using the happy snapper again, seeing the new laptop has a card reader…
I’ll see what I can do after catching up and having a bit of a rest.
Ok….I understand.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:I may need a picture. I can’t figure out what you mean by the words.
https://www.wikihow.com/Bend-Fork-Tines-Back-Into-Shape
I know, I know. It isn’t the right pictures but consider rolling all the tines towards the handle and around so they make a loop. they rpobably aren’t long enough and maybe a bit thick but a touch between each tine with a thin angle grinder blade will change all of that.
OK.
Yeah, I tried that yesterday. Inner tines – fine. Outer tines – nup. L-shaped cross sections don’t bend nicely by hand…
kii said:
Michael V said:
kii said:Oooo……photos?
Um, no. But I should start using the happy snapper again, seeing the new laptop has a card reader…
I’ll see what I can do after catching up and having a bit of a rest.
Ok….I understand.
I do by the way, love your idea of flannel flower stencilling., kii. :)
I remember when I was painting the letters I’d carved into some aged and dried Needlewood log that I’d cut in two and carved the name of by nursery business into. I was using a yellow paint and my young daughter picked some daisy flowers, dipped them into the paint and pressed them onto the sign, thus decorating it for me. I smiled and said thanks. that looks nice.Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:https://www.wikihow.com/Bend-Fork-Tines-Back-Into-Shape
I know, I know. It isn’t the right pictures but consider rolling all the tines towards the handle and around so they make a loop. they rpobably aren’t long enough and maybe a bit thick but a touch between each tine with a thin angle grinder blade will change all of that.
OK.
Yeah, I tried that yesterday. Inner tines – fine. Outer tines – nup. L-shaped cross sections don’t bend nicely by hand…
Yeah, so why not turn it around and curl the ends of the handles?
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:https://www.wikihow.com/Bend-Fork-Tines-Back-Into-Shape
I know, I know. It isn’t the right pictures but consider rolling all the tines towards the handle and around so they make a loop. they rpobably aren’t long enough and maybe a bit thick but a touch between each tine with a thin angle grinder blade will change all of that.
Anyway, why use the tines of the spork as the hook end? The handle end or even a set of real spoons could be better. Is it that you only have a set of sporks to work with?
It’s not that I only have sporks, but sporks are in the pile of junk. The handle end has bent well for a nice lower hook.
roughbarked said:
kii said:
Michael V said:Um, no. But I should start using the happy snapper again, seeing the new laptop has a card reader…
I’ll see what I can do after catching up and having a bit of a rest.
Ok….I understand.
I do by the way, love your idea of flannel flower stencilling., kii. :)
I remember when I was painting the letters I’d carved into some aged and dried Needlewood log that I’d cut in two and carved the name of by nursery business into. I was using a yellow paint and my young daughter picked some daisy flowers, dipped them into the paint and pressed them onto the sign, thus decorating it for me. I smiled and said thanks. that looks nice.
Nice. I just like doing odd bits of folk art.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:I know, I know. It isn’t the right pictures but consider rolling all the tines towards the handle and around so they make a loop. they rpobably aren’t long enough and maybe a bit thick but a touch between each tine with a thin angle grinder blade will change all of that.
Anyway, why use the tines of the spork as the hook end? The handle end or even a set of real spoons could be better. Is it that you only have a set of sporks to work with?
It’s not that I only have sporks, but sporks are in the pile of junk. The handle end has bent well for a nice lower hook.
eye C.
Why not cut short pieces of thick dowel, drill holes for the tines and hammer the ends of the tines up to prevent slipping off? or push bits of thin pipe, even the insulation from electric wires onto the ends of the tines and into the holes of the wood, to do the same?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-08/from-space,-the-ferocity-of-queenslands-bushfires-is-revealed/10594662
mollwollfumble said:
mollwollfumble said:
Last year, rainbow lorikeet was the top bird in both Vic and WA. It’s dropped off a bit. Sparrow numbers are up in Vic and Tas. I’ve downloaded the Excel spreadsheet of results from the second link of https://aussiebirdcount.org.au/2018-results/
National top 20 bird species sighted. By number of birds. House sparrow is creeping up the charts. Not great news, I’ve been noticing it displacing red-browed finch this year.
From 2018
From 2017
From 2016

Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:I know, I know. It isn’t the right pictures but consider rolling all the tines towards the handle and around so they make a loop. they rpobably aren’t long enough and maybe a bit thick but a touch between each tine with a thin angle grinder blade will change all of that.
Anyway, why use the tines of the spork as the hook end? The handle end or even a set of real spoons could be better. Is it that you only have a set of sporks to work with?
It’s not that I only have sporks, but sporks are in the pile of junk. The handle end has bent well for a nice lower hook.
Problem solvered. Thanks everyone.
:)
I found 5mm diameter clear (yellowish-aged) plastic tubing and cut and jammed it onto the tines. On for the two centre tines, and one each for the two outer tines. That should protect clothes from the tines. And the tines can still be seen. Win-win.
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:Anyway, why use the tines of the spork as the hook end? The handle end or even a set of real spoons could be better. Is it that you only have a set of sporks to work with?
It’s not that I only have sporks, but sporks are in the pile of junk. The handle end has bent well for a nice lower hook.
Problem solvered. Thanks everyone.
:)
I found 5mm diameter clear (yellowish-aged) plastic tubing and cut and jammed it onto the tines. On for the two centre tines, and one each for the two outer tines. That should protect clothes from the tines. And the tines can still be seen. Win-win.
:) KISS.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:Anyway, why use the tines of the spork as the hook end? The handle end or even a set of real spoons could be better. Is it that you only have a set of sporks to work with?
It’s not that I only have sporks, but sporks are in the pile of junk. The handle end has bent well for a nice lower hook.
eye C.
Why not cut short pieces of thick dowel, drill holes for the tines and hammer the ends of the tines up to prevent slipping off? or push bits of thin pipe, even the insulation from electric wires onto the ends of the tines and into the holes of the wood, to do the same?
Huh! I just did that, sort of.
Thanks.
:)
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:It’s not that I only have sporks, but sporks are in the pile of junk. The handle end has bent well for a nice lower hook.
eye C.
Why not cut short pieces of thick dowel, drill holes for the tines and hammer the ends of the tines up to prevent slipping off? or push bits of thin pipe, even the insulation from electric wires onto the ends of the tines and into the holes of the wood, to do the same?
Huh! I just did that, sort of.
Thanks.
:)
Or, why not chuck coats in a heap like normal people?
Ian said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:eye C.
Why not cut short pieces of thick dowel, drill holes for the tines and hammer the ends of the tines up to prevent slipping off? or push bits of thin pipe, even the insulation from electric wires onto the ends of the tines and into the holes of the wood, to do the same?
Huh! I just did that, sort of.
Thanks.
:)
Or, why not chuck coats in a heap like normal people?
Or use the cloak room.
Donald Trump opens fire on ‘dumb as a rock’ Rex Tillerson, who said President ‘doesn’t like to read’
Donald Trump has blasted former secretary of state Rex Tillerson in a sharply critical tweet, a day after the nation’s former top diplomat publicly recounted that the President had tried to do things in a way that violated the law.
Key points:
In an interview with CBS News, Mr Tillerson described Mr Trump as “pretty undisciplined, doesn’t like to read, doesn’t read briefing reports … doesn’t like to get into the details of a lot of things”.
Asked how his relationship with Mr Trump had gone off the rails, Mr Tillerson said it might have reflected what he saw as his obligation to tell the President that he could not do certain things because they were illegal or would violate US treaties.
“I’d have to say to him, well Mr President, I understand what you want to do, but you can’t do it that way. It violates the law, it violates treaty … you know, he got really frustrated.”
More…
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Trump is really dumb
I’m too tired to laugh.
Donald Trump does not like to read.
kii said:
Gawd this sauce is good……………https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2012/11/smitten-kitchens-harvest-roast-chicken-with-grapes-olives-shallots.html
This recipe is so very good.
It works with any type of grape, any type of olive.
a black bird for you, first released in Australia in the 1860s. Yeah’s a learning curve today, edjamacational
who’s volunteering to do all these dishes.
you just stay seated, i’ll fucken do’t
transition said:
who’s volunteering to do all these dishes.you just stay seated, i’ll fucken do’t
Send it to sibeen’s house :)
party_pants said:
transition said:
who’s volunteering to do all these dishes.you just stay seated, i’ll fucken do’t
Send it to sibeen’s house :)
could tell him the fridge is full of beer, and help yourself
transition said:
who’s volunteering to do all these dishes.you just stay seated, i’ll fucken do’t
I’ve been cooking all afternoon!!
transition said:
a black bird for you, first released in Australia in the 1860s. Yeah’s a learning curve today, edjamacational
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Got a lot of them in the backyard. Bruna chases them. She gets very, very close to catching them. And then they sit on a branch just out of reach and she bounces around underneath and then just sits and stares them down.
kii said:
transition said:
who’s volunteering to do all these dishes.you just stay seated, i’ll fucken do’t
I’ve been cooking all afternoon!!
well you need a rest. Go sit’own.
i’m back from my walk, bumped into someone else walking in the lighting storm
I said to to him another crazy person trying to get struck by lightning
he turned away with his dog and wandered off talking about me being a weird cunt, something like that
couldn’t argue with him about that
https://ascienceenthusiast.com/nasa-releases-first-sounds-ever-recorded-mars/?fbclid=IwAR0kMgGhMdrjhywUOTzS3FcmnlXiaKdmOfsBxbF88IGe774oZbULaGItBNU
good morning-ish… street Christmas party last night, didn’t end up as terrifying as last year but I didn’t stay until the end this year (thank goodness – I can still function today)
I have a crime walk tonight through the streets of Perth
Arts said:
I have a crime walk tonight through the streets of Perth
what crimes do you plan on doing?
kii said:
https://ascienceenthusiast.com/nasa-releases-first-sounds-ever-recorded-mars/?fbclid=IwAR0kMgGhMdrjhywUOTzS3FcmnlXiaKdmOfsBxbF88IGe774oZbULaGItBNU
That’s historic, worth a thread. Even though those sounds aren’t quite what you’d get from a microphone or the human ear.
kii said:
transition said:
who’s volunteering to do all these dishes.you just stay seated, i’ll fucken do’t
I’ve been cooking all afternoon!!
I’m about to take some painkillers then go and do my own washing up.
buffy said:
transition said:
a black bird for you, first released in Australia in the 1860s. Yeah’s a learning curve today, edjamacational
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Got a lot of them in the backyard. Bruna chases them. She gets very, very close to catching them. And then they sit on a branch just out of reach and she bounces around underneath and then just sits and stares them down.
Probably the most common bird in this village.
kii said:
kii said:
Gawd this sauce is good……………https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2012/11/smitten-kitchens-harvest-roast-chicken-with-grapes-olives-shallots.html
This recipe is so very good.
It works with any type of grape, any type of olive.
Certainly sounds tasty.
Bogsnorkler said:
Arts said:I have a crime walk tonight through the streets of Perth
what crimes do you plan on doing?
read the papers tomorrow
Probably going to do duck for Xmas dinner again.
But the butcher might have some geese.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
transition said:
a black bird for you, first released in Australia in the 1860s. Yeah’s a learning curve today, edjamacational
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Got a lot of them in the backyard. Bruna chases them. She gets very, very close to catching them. And then they sit on a branch just out of reach and she bounces around underneath and then just sits and stares them down.
Probably the most common bird in this village.
No black birds in Brissy.
When I were lad there were a lot of English birds, house sparrow and starling were very common.
Don’t see them anymore, well very rarely.
The most common invasive species now is the indian minor.
Arts said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Arts said:I have a crime walk tonight through the streets of Perth
what crimes do you plan on doing?
read the papers tomorrow
Extra Extra Art’s Chokes Two for a Dollar at Woolies.
Arts said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Arts said:I have a crime walk tonight through the streets of Perth
what crimes do you plan on doing?
read the papers tomorrow
rubs hans in anticipation.
It is very satisfying to make chocolate fudge. Very easy. Microwave melt 400g good dark chocolate (I use couverture). Melt together in a saucepan 60g butter and a tin of condensed milk with a splash of vanilla. Pour the saucepan stuff on top of the chocolate, mix together until thick and glossy – and my word, does it do justice to “thick and glossy”! Pour into a tin and level and set in the fridge. Later, cut into cubes. Not too big…very, very rich.
It’s for tomorrow’s family lunch. I am desserts chef. So I’ll make a citrus cake this evening (orange and lime), and I’ve already made some biscuits. With the fudge as well, that should be enough. And my sister in law is up from Hobart so I expect she will be doing something in Mum’s kitchen too. We never really know what she will do. She is an excellent cook, but not too good on co-ordinating with other people. My Melbourne sister in law and I manage quite well with her doing mains and me doing dessert. We just let S do her thing.
Was Arts in Warrnambool last night?
https://www.vicpolicenews.com.au/news/man-arrested-following-warrnambool-fatal-stabbing
kii said:
I’m drunk.
Hi Drunk, I’m Rule.
Arts said:
good morning-ish… street Christmas party last night, didn’t end up as terrifying as last year but I didn’t stay until the end this year (thank goodness – I can still function today)I have a crime walk tonight through the streets of Perth
I feel sorry for the tour guide already….
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-08/victoria-polices-lawyer-x-legal-battle-cost-over-$4.5m/10596904
I’ve been listening to this on the news this week. I “get” that the barrister breached ethics and stuff by informing. But basically that is her decision. I don’t quite understand the problem the police apparently have with having a barrister as an informant. I have always assumed that if they can have criminals as informants, they could have anyone willing and able to be an informant.
buffy said:
It is very satisfying to make chocolate fudge. Very easy. Microwave melt 400g good dark chocolate (I use couverture). Melt together in a saucepan 60g butter and a tin of condensed milk with a splash of vanilla. Pour the saucepan stuff on top of the chocolate, mix together until thick and glossy – and my word, does it do justice to “thick and glossy”! Pour into a tin and level and set in the fridge. Later, cut into cubes. Not too big…very, very rich.
It’s for tomorrow’s family lunch. I am desserts chef. So I’ll make a citrus cake this evening (orange and lime), and I’ve already made some biscuits. With the fudge as well, that should be enough. And my sister in law is up from Hobart so I expect she will be doing something in Mum’s kitchen too. We never really know what she will do. She is an excellent cook, but not too good on co-ordinating with other people. My Melbourne sister in law and I manage quite well with her doing mains and me doing dessert. We just let S do her thing.
Sounds good but hella fattening.
transition said:
a black bird for you, first released in Australia in the 1860s. Yeah’s a learning curve today, edjamacational
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The fwop bird. The sound the slug makes when it hits them.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:It is very satisfying to make chocolate fudge. Very easy. Microwave melt 400g good dark chocolate (I use couverture). Melt together in a saucepan 60g butter and a tin of condensed milk with a splash of vanilla. Pour the saucepan stuff on top of the chocolate, mix together until thick and glossy – and my word, does it do justice to “thick and glossy”! Pour into a tin and level and set in the fridge. Later, cut into cubes. Not too big…very, very rich.
I haven’t made fudge for few years -use a similar recipe, Husband isn’t big on desserts,but my mother in law is coming over for Christmas, so may make fudge and my usual caramel slice.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:It is very satisfying to make chocolate fudge. Very easy. Microwave melt 400g good dark chocolate (I use couverture). Melt together in a saucepan 60g butter and a tin of condensed milk with a splash of vanilla. Pour the saucepan stuff on top of the chocolate, mix together until thick and glossy – and my word, does it do justice to “thick and glossy”! Pour into a tin and level and set in the fridge. Later, cut into cubes. Not too big…very, very rich.
It’s for tomorrow’s family lunch. I am desserts chef. So I’ll make a citrus cake this evening (orange and lime), and I’ve already made some biscuits. With the fudge as well, that should be enough. And my sister in law is up from Hobart so I expect she will be doing something in Mum’s kitchen too. We never really know what she will do. She is an excellent cook, but not too good on co-ordinating with other people. My Melbourne sister in law and I manage quite well with her doing mains and me doing dessert. We just let S do her thing.
Sounds good but hella fattening.
Well, you don’t eat a lot of it…
Alright, I was out in the garden around 6ish this morning, had a couple of breaks for breakfast and lunch. I think a siesta is in order now.
Brindabellas said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:It is very satisfying to make chocolate fudge. Very easy. Microwave melt 400g good dark chocolate (I use couverture). Melt together in a saucepan 60g butter and a tin of condensed milk with a splash of vanilla. Pour the saucepan stuff on top of the chocolate, mix together until thick and glossy – and my word, does it do justice to “thick and glossy”! Pour into a tin and level and set in the fridge. Later, cut into cubes. Not too big…very, very rich.
I haven’t made fudge for few years -use a similar recipe, Husband isn’t big on desserts,but my mother in law is coming over for Christmas, so may make fudge and my usual caramel slice.
I’m not cooking a family pre-Christmas lunch this year (we’re going to a restaurant instead as there’s not much room in this house for entertaining). But the sisters will probably donate some dessert items and for Christmas Day itself, I might make some little trifles again.
How’s this for OH&S? Bet Stumpy would have appreciated it.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ausmac/45311049605/in/dateposted-ff/
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-08/victoria-polices-lawyer-x-legal-battle-cost-over-$4.5m/10596904
I’ve been listening to this on the news this week. I “get” that the barrister breached ethics and stuff by informing. But basically that is her decision. I don’t quite understand the problem the police apparently have with having a barrister as an informant. I have always assumed that if they can have criminals as informants, they could have anyone willing and able to be an informant.
Cops are worried that if criminals’ barristers starting ratting on their clients, then it could be the start of a slippery slope to people letting on what they know about the cops’ doings.
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-08/victoria-polices-lawyer-x-legal-battle-cost-over-$4.5m/10596904
I’ve been listening to this on the news this week. I “get” that the barrister breached ethics and stuff by informing. But basically that is her decision. I don’t quite understand the problem the police apparently have with having a barrister as an informant. I have always assumed that if they can have criminals as informants, they could have anyone willing and able to be an informant.
Cops are worried that if criminals’ barristers starting ratting on their clients, then it could be the start of a slippery slope to people letting on what they know about the cops’ doings.
Always a worry that.
roughbarked said:
How’s this for OH&S? Bet Stumpy would have appreciated it.https://www.flickr.com/photos/ausmac/45311049605/in/dateposted-ff/
I made these syllabubs last year and scoffed the lot of them. But this year I’ll let moderation be my guide.
transition said:
a black bird for you, first released in Australia in the 1860s. Yeah’s a learning curve today, edjamacational
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buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-08/victoria-polices-lawyer-x-legal-battle-cost-over-$4.5m/10596904
I’ve been listening to this on the news this week. I “get” that the barrister breached ethics and stuff by informing. But basically that is her decision. I don’t quite understand the problem the police apparently have with having a barrister as an informant. I have always assumed that if they can have criminals as informants, they could have anyone willing and able to be an informant.
I wonder of the barrister knew that by informing on her clients, and then making it public, any convictions would be thrown out and the evidence would be inadmissible. Playing the long game….
Bubblecar said:
I made these syllabubs last year and scoffed the lot of them. But this year I’ll let moderation be my guide.
I’ll give them half a day before they’ll be extinct.
Cold corned beef and salad with feta cheese and beetroot washed down with a mug of tea (black & 1)
Over.
I’ve got a Christmas cake that’s been sitting in the cupboard for four years, being rubbed with Brandy a few times along the way. Might ice it this year….
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-08/victoria-polices-lawyer-x-legal-battle-cost-over-$4.5m/10596904
I’ve been listening to this on the news this week. I “get” that the barrister breached ethics and stuff by informing. But basically that is her decision. I don’t quite understand the problem the police apparently have with having a barrister as an informant. I have always assumed that if they can have criminals as informants, they could have anyone willing and able to be an informant.
I wonder of the barrister knew that by informing on her clients, and then making it public, any convictions would be thrown out and the evidence would be inadmissible. Playing the long game….
Either that or she’s dumb as a rock.
Peak Warming Man said:
Cold corned beef and salad with feta cheese and beetroot washed down with a mug of tea (black & 1)
Over.
How was Bunnings? Did you get a chance to have a look at wood lathe tools for me?
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-08/victoria-polices-lawyer-x-legal-battle-cost-over-$4.5m/10596904
I’ve been listening to this on the news this week. I “get” that the barrister breached ethics and stuff by informing. But basically that is her decision. I don’t quite understand the problem the police apparently have with having a barrister as an informant. I have always assumed that if they can have criminals as informants, they could have anyone willing and able to be an informant.
I wonder of the barrister knew that by informing on her clients, and then making it public, any convictions would be thrown out and the evidence would be inadmissible. Playing the long game….
That would suggest a degree of deviousness on the part of a barrister, and we all know that the legal profession does not indulge in such behaviour.
I’ve recently been trying to find the difference between crows and ravens. The best method is to look at the wings of the birds: the crow has a “blunt” wing edge, whereas ravens have more pointed wing edges. If you can physically examine the birds, you’ll find that there are different numbers of wing-tip feathers, called pinions, on the two birds, with crows having 8 pinions, and ravens having nine. The difference between crows and ravens is a matter of a pinion.
btm said:
I’ve recently been trying to find the difference between crows and ravens. The best method is to look at the wings of the birds: the crow has a “blunt” wing edge, whereas ravens have more pointed wing edges. If you can physically examine the birds, you’ll find that there are different numbers of wing-tip feathers, called pinions, on the two birds, with crows having 8 pinions, and ravens having nine. The difference between crows and ravens is a matter of a pinion.
Lord save us.
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Cold corned beef and salad with feta cheese and beetroot washed down with a mug of tea (black & 1)
Over.
How was Bunnings? Did you get a chance to have a look at wood lathe tools for me?
Yeah it was pretty good, the class of punter was medium to high bogan.
And no I didn’t get a chance to look for lathe tools, maybe next time.
btm said:
I’ve recently been trying to find the difference between crows and ravens. The best method is to look at the wings of the birds: the crow has a “blunt” wing edge, whereas ravens have more pointed wing edges. If you can physically examine the birds, you’ll find that there are different numbers of wing-tip feathers, called pinions, on the two birds, with crows having 8 pinions, and ravens having nine. The difference between crows and ravens is a matter of a pinion.
Dear oh dear.
while dished soaking, along the surveyed road reserve there, looking toward bunkers.
transition said:
while dished soaking, along the surveyed road reserve there, looking toward bunkers.
had a pet kestrel when young kid, still remember its maiden flight
btm said:
I’ve recently been trying to find the difference between crows and ravens. The best method is to look at the wings of the birds: the crow has a “blunt” wing edge, whereas ravens have more pointed wing edges. If you can physically examine the birds, you’ll find that there are different numbers of wing-tip feathers, called pinions, on the two birds, with crows having 8 pinions, and ravens having nine. The difference between crows and ravens is a matter of a pinion.
eyes can be another.
We went to a local second-hand emporium, deals in furniture, electrical , all sorts.
I got a Bosch jigsaw for $5.00.
captain_spalding said:
We went to a local second-hand emporium, deals in furniture, electrical , all sorts.I got a Bosch jigsaw for $5.00.
All the pieces?
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
We went to a local second-hand emporium, deals in furniture, electrical , all sorts.I got a Bosch jigsaw for $5.00.
All the pieces?
No, just the jigsaw, but it’s a good sturdy one, with the shoe/bottom plate.
captain_spalding said:
We went to a local second-hand emporium, deals in furniture, electrical , all sorts.I got a Bosch jigsaw for $5.00.

Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:
We went to a local second-hand emporium, deals in furniture, electrical , all sorts.I got a Bosch jigsaw for $5.00.
bn sold those
Should have brought one.
Raindrops on roses….
btm said:
I’ve recently been trying to find the difference between crows and ravens. The best method is to look at the wings of the birds: the crow has a “blunt” wing edge, whereas ravens have more pointed wing edges. If you can physically examine the birds, you’ll find that there are different numbers of wing-tip feathers, called pinions, on the two birds, with crows having 8 pinions, and ravens having nine. The difference between crows and ravens is a matter of a pinion.
ROFL
kii said:
Raindrops on roses….
And whiskey and kettehs….
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-08/victoria-polices-lawyer-x-legal-battle-cost-over-$4.5m/10596904
I’ve been listening to this on the news this week. I “get” that the barrister breached ethics and stuff by informing. But basically that is her decision. I don’t quite understand the problem the police apparently have with having a barrister as an informant. I have always assumed that if they can have criminals as informants, they could have anyone willing and able to be an informant.
Cops are worried that if criminals’ barristers starting ratting on their clients, then it could be the start of a slippery slope to people letting on what they know about the cops’ doings.
Show working.
btm said:
I’ve recently been trying to find the difference between crows and ravens. The best method is to look at the wings of the birds: the crow has a “blunt” wing edge, whereas ravens have more pointed wing edges. If you can physically examine the birds, you’ll find that there are different numbers of wing-tip feathers, called pinions, on the two birds, with crows having 8 pinions, and ravens having nine. The difference between crows and ravens is a matter of a pinion.
Pretty clever.
:)
Prosecutors: Michael Cohen acted at Trump’s direction when he broke the law
https://edition-m.cnn.com/2018/12/07/politics/michael-cohen-robert-mueller-donald-trump/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fedition.cnn.com%2F
Sure this counts as a singificant development
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:
We went to a local second-hand emporium, deals in furniture, electrical , all sorts.I got a Bosch jigsaw for $5.00.
Zing
Witty Rejoinder said:
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-08/victoria-polices-lawyer-x-legal-battle-cost-over-$4.5m/10596904
I’ve been listening to this on the news this week. I “get” that the barrister breached ethics and stuff by informing. But basically that is her decision. I don’t quite understand the problem the police apparently have with having a barrister as an informant. I have always assumed that if they can have criminals as informants, they could have anyone willing and able to be an informant.
Cops are worried that if criminals’ barristers starting ratting on their clients, then it could be the start of a slippery slope to people letting on what they know about the cops’ doings.
Show working.
really smart when a lawyer becomes a witness in a case, like that
unscramble that egg.
Witty Rejoinder said:
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-08/victoria-polices-lawyer-x-legal-battle-cost-over-$4.5m/10596904
I’ve been listening to this on the news this week. I “get” that the barrister breached ethics and stuff by informing. But basically that is her decision. I don’t quite understand the problem the police apparently have with having a barrister as an informant. I have always assumed that if they can have criminals as informants, they could have anyone willing and able to be an informant.
Cops are worried that if criminals’ barristers starting ratting on their clients, then it could be the start of a slippery slope to people letting on what they know about the cops’ doings.
Show working.

dv said:
Prosecutors: Michael Cohen acted at Trump’s direction when he broke the lawhttps://edition-m.cnn.com/2018/12/07/politics/michael-cohen-robert-mueller-donald-trump/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fedition.cnn.com%2F
Sure this counts as a singificant development
Trump has a long habit of doing that.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-08/trump-opens-fire-on-dumb-as-a-rock-rex-tillerson/10596638
Donald Trump has blasted former secretary of state Rex Tillerson in a sharply critical tweet, a day after the nation’s former top diplomat publicly recounted that the President had tried to do things in a way that violated the law.
dv said:
Prosecutors: Michael Cohen acted at Trump’s direction when he broke the lawhttps://edition-m.cnn.com/2018/12/07/politics/michael-cohen-robert-mueller-donald-trump/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fedition.cnn.com%2F
Sure this counts as a singificant development
It’s the US of A. Who knows?
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-08/victoria-polices-lawyer-x-legal-battle-cost-over-$4.5m/10596904
I’ve been listening to this on the news this week. I “get” that the barrister breached ethics and stuff by informing. But basically that is her decision. I don’t quite understand the problem the police apparently have with having a barrister as an informant. I have always assumed that if they can have criminals as informants, they could have anyone willing and able to be an informant.
I think the bottom line is that the police can’t trust a barrister informant as much as they can a criminal one
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
captain_spalding said:Cops are worried that if criminals’ barristers starting ratting on their clients, then it could be the start of a slippery slope to people letting on what they know about the cops’ doings.
Show working.
really smart when a lawyer becomes a witness in a case, like that
unscramble that egg.
when you engage the services of a lawyer, there is agreement as part of the engaging of services, to do with your business, and the idea applies more generally to agreements.
the thing is people charged with whatever have a right to a defense (involving people doing the defending), a right to agreements, no less so of professional legal services.
so you know you don’t want your kids’ dentist supplying your kids with lollipops, for example, as an analogy.
Tau.Neutrino said:
dv said:
Prosecutors: Michael Cohen acted at Trump’s direction when he broke the lawhttps://edition-m.cnn.com/2018/12/07/politics/michael-cohen-robert-mueller-donald-trump/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fedition.cnn.com%2F
Sure this counts as a singificant development
Trump has a long habit of doing that.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-08/trump-opens-fire-on-dumb-as-a-rock-rex-tillerson/10596638
Donald Trump has blasted former secretary of state Rex Tillerson in a sharply critical tweet, a day after the nation’s former top diplomat publicly recounted that the President had tried to do things in a way that violated the law.
Can one imagine all the background chatter in the white house?
I wonder how many times asshole has been used?
transition said:
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Show working.
really smart when a lawyer becomes a witness in a case, like that
unscramble that egg.
when you engage the services of a lawyer, there is agreement as part of the engaging of services, to do with your business, and the idea applies more generally to agreements.
the thing is people charged with whatever have a right to a defense (involving people doing the defending), a right to agreements, no less so of professional legal services.
so you know you don’t want your kids’ dentist supplying your kids with lollipops, for example, as an analogy.
A barrister informant must involve some level of conflict of interest and betrayal to the bar?.
I did tell you all that it was going to be called Endgame.
Tau.Neutrino said:
transition said:
transition said:really smart when a lawyer becomes a witness in a case, like that
unscramble that egg.
when you engage the services of a lawyer, there is agreement as part of the engaging of services, to do with your business, and the idea applies more generally to agreements.
the thing is people charged with whatever have a right to a defense (involving people doing the defending), a right to agreements, no less so of professional legal services.
so you know you don’t want your kids’ dentist supplying your kids with lollipops, for example, as an analogy.
A barrister informant must involve some level of conflict of interest and betrayal to the bar?.
two hats on
involves a deceit toward client.
Michael V said:
dv said:
Prosecutors: Michael Cohen acted at Trump’s direction when he broke the lawhttps://edition-m.cnn.com/2018/12/07/politics/michael-cohen-robert-mueller-donald-trump/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fedition.cnn.com%2F
Sure this counts as a singificant development
It’s the US of A. Who knows?
I mean I ain’t know law talking dude but I would think that telling an employee to commit a crime is a crime.
Crimes are still illegal right? No? Nothing matters? Gtk.
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:
We went to a local second-hand emporium, deals in furniture, electrical , all sorts.I got a Bosch jigsaw for $5.00.
The garden of Earthly delights. I want one!
Some of those animals puzzle me. Particularly the three different types of tails on the horse.
I have imported that very picture into a jigsaw puzzle app. But it’s not the same.
mollwollfumble said:
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:
We went to a local second-hand emporium, deals in furniture, electrical , all sorts.I got a Bosch jigsaw for $5.00.
The garden of Earthly delights. I want one!
Some of those animals puzzle me. Particularly the three different types of tails on the horse.
I have imported that very picture into a jigsaw puzzle app. But it’s not the same.
Oops, correction. No I haven’t, I imported a Bosch that isn’t as good. I wanted Garden of Earthly delights.
Program called Cyberwar starting on Viceland shortly and Nazis are back to Saturday night…unless it’s double Nazis.
Humid as anythingout there, trying to rain, maybe with tonight’s cooling temperatures there will be some storms.
Bit blowy in the UK.
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-0.90,58.49,1821/loc=-2.760,55.034
transition said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
transition said:when you engage the services of a lawyer, there is agreement as part of the engaging of services, to do with your business, and the idea applies more generally to agreements.
the thing is people charged with whatever have a right to a defense (involving people doing the defending), a right to agreements, no less so of professional legal services.
so you know you don’t want your kids’ dentist supplying your kids with lollipops, for example, as an analogy.
A barrister informant must involve some level of conflict of interest and betrayal to the bar?.
two hats on
involves a deceit toward client.
ok, towards the client.
Arts said:
buffy said:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-08/victoria-polices-lawyer-x-legal-battle-cost-over-$4.5m/10596904
I’ve been listening to this on the news this week. I “get” that the barrister breached ethics and stuff by informing. But basically that is her decision. I don’t quite understand the problem the police apparently have with having a barrister as an informant. I have always assumed that if they can have criminals as informants, they could have anyone willing and able to be an informant.
I think the bottom line is that the police can’t trust a barrister informant as much as they can a criminal one
I think the bottom line is it undermines the entire concept of legal privilege and is against the duties as an officer of the court and to act in the best interests of the client.
I was reading some comments that she may have been playing a long game but I don’t think that can be true because, a, she knew what she was doing would put her life in danger and b she enabled convictions that would ordinarily not happen. I can’t believe any high up crook getting jailed on the off chance the conviction might be overturned and they certainly weren’t in on it.
As it is looks like the worst of all results, especially for her, an identity revealed, former clients released from jail free to plan revenge and whole swags of evidence being disallowed so future conviction is even harder. That Simon Overland has a lot to answer for, and also coming out of this, the treatment of the pommie commissioner Lewis? who was against it.
AwesomeO said:
Arts said:
buffy said:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-08/victoria-polices-lawyer-x-legal-battle-cost-over-$4.5m/10596904
I’ve been listening to this on the news this week. I “get” that the barrister breached ethics and stuff by informing. But basically that is her decision. I don’t quite understand the problem the police apparently have with having a barrister as an informant. I have always assumed that if they can have criminals as informants, they could have anyone willing and able to be an informant.
I think the bottom line is that the police can’t trust a barrister informant as much as they can a criminal one
I think the bottom line is it undermines the entire concept of legal privilege and is against the duties as an officer of the court and to act in the best interests of the client.
I was reading some comments that she may have been playing a long game but I don’t think that can be true because, a, she knew what she was doing would put her life in danger and b she enabled convictions that would ordinarily not happen. I can’t believe any high up crook getting jailed on the off chance the conviction might be overturned and they certainly weren’t in on it.
i’d expect there are some exceptions tat probably need testing
completely hypothetically for example, if, imagine you’re a lawyer, you’re engaged for some services regards certain events, which have to be of the past (charges related etc), but if you found yourself involved in some ongoing things, came into knowledge of, then to not report those i’d expect would probably be a crime.
lawyer/client confidentially, best I can imagine, doesn’t extend to continuing or future crimes.
contracting a lawyer for defense regards event A of the past does not automatically extend the privileges to ongoing or future activities.
>>Crimes are still illegal right?
Could you just step into my office for a minute DV.
Close the door…………….
AwesomeO said:
Arts said:
buffy said:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-08/victoria-polices-lawyer-x-legal-battle-cost-over-$4.5m/10596904
I’ve been listening to this on the news this week. I “get” that the barrister breached ethics and stuff by informing. But basically that is her decision. I don’t quite understand the problem the police apparently have with having a barrister as an informant. I have always assumed that if they can have criminals as informants, they could have anyone willing and able to be an informant.
I think the bottom line is that the police can’t trust a barrister informant as much as they can a criminal one
I think the bottom line is it undermines the entire concept of legal privilege and is against the duties as an officer of the court and to act in the best interests of the client.
I was reading some comments that she may have been playing a long game but I don’t think that can be true because, a, she knew what she was doing would put her life in danger and b she enabled convictions that would ordinarily not happen. I can’t believe any high up crook getting jailed on the off chance the conviction might be overturned and they certainly weren’t in on it.
Simon bloody Overland, what a dickhead.
“lawyer/client confidentially, best I can imagine, doesn’t extend to continuing or future crimes.”
Well no, that would be against the duties as an officer of the court.
transition said:
AwesomeO said:
Arts said:I think the bottom line is that the police can’t trust a barrister informant as much as they can a criminal one
I think the bottom line is it undermines the entire concept of legal privilege and is against the duties as an officer of the court and to act in the best interests of the client.
I was reading some comments that she may have been playing a long game but I don’t think that can be true because, a, she knew what she was doing would put her life in danger and b she enabled convictions that would ordinarily not happen. I can’t believe any high up crook getting jailed on the off chance the conviction might be overturned and they certainly weren’t in on it.
i’d expect there are some exceptions tat probably need testing
completely hypothetically for example, if, imagine you’re a lawyer, you’re engaged for some services regards certain events, which have to be of the past (charges related etc), but if you found yourself involved in some ongoing things, came into knowledge of, then to not report those i’d expect would probably be a crime.
lawyer/client confidentially, best I can imagine, doesn’t extend to continuing or future crimes.
contracting a lawyer for defense regards event A of the past does not automatically extend the privileges to ongoing or future activities.
so there’s like three things of, if you wanted to call it client-lawyer privilege, whatever agreement regard confidentially, the lawyer just serving/defending the client, it has to be regard specific matters, of which there are charges, but the lawyer’s not held to that confidentially for other crimes outside the scope of the charges, or for ongoing crimes, or for crimes that are committed afterward.
it goes to the difference between a crime and a criminal. The latter may have obvious reasons to broaden a lawyers obligations beyond the immediate charges, and informal ways of encouraging that, or trying.
I believe that barristers have to be careful about what their clients tell them.
If a client tells a barrister ‘i did it, i’m guilty’, then the barrister cannot (ethically) tell the court that his/her client is innocent. To do so would be perjury.
If a barrister is aware of his/her client’s guilt, they can’t seek the client’s exoneration, all they can do is try to mitigate the offence and seek the least onerous outcome for their client.
>>I believe that barristers have to be careful about what their clients tell them.
Sometimes you just need to be brutally honest and tell them their coffee is shit.
I’ve got chocolate cake for afternoon tea.
Peak Warming Man said:
>>I believe that barristers have to be careful about what their clients tell them.Sometimes you just need to be brutally honest and tell them their coffee is shit.
Hehehe
captain_spalding said:
I believe that barristers have to be careful about what their clients tell them.If a client tells a barrister ‘i did it, i’m guilty’, then the barrister cannot (ethically) tell the court that his/her client is innocent. To do so would be perjury.
Not quite. For it to be perjury the barrister would have to be under oath, and they’re not. The barrister would advise the client to plead guilty in hopes of getting a reduced sentence, but would still have to do his/her best to get an acquittal if the client elected to plead not guilty.
captain_spalding said:
If a barrister is aware of his/her client’s guilt, they can’t seek the client’s exoneration, all they can do is try to mitigate the offence and seek the least onerous outcome for their client.
They have an obligation to do their best to get the client acquitted, or to minimise the sentence if the client is convicted or pleads guilty. If they’re deemed (by the court or the state’s Law Institute) not to have done their best, they can lose their licence to practice law, either temporarily or (for serious cases) permanently.
btm said:
captain_spalding said:
I believe that barristers have to be careful about what their clients tell them.If a client tells a barrister ‘i did it, i’m guilty’, then the barrister cannot (ethically) tell the court that his/her client is innocent. To do so would be perjury.
Not quite. For it to be perjury the barrister would have to be under oath, and they’re not. The barrister would advise the client to plead guilty in hopes of getting a reduced sentence, but would still have to do his/her best to get an acquittal if the client elected to plead not guilty.
captain_spalding said:
If a barrister is aware of his/her client’s guilt, they can’t seek the client’s exoneration, all they can do is try to mitigate the offence and seek the least onerous outcome for their client.
They have an obligation to do their best to get the client acquitted, or to minimise the sentence if the client is convicted or pleads guilty. If they’re deemed (by the court or the state’s Law Institute) not to have done their best, they can lose their licence to practice law, either temporarily or (for serious cases) permanently.
There you go. Understanding improved. Ta.
Is there or isn’t there a lesser charge than ‘perjury’?
‘Misleading the court’ or something like that, perhaps?
captain_spalding said:
Is there or isn’t there a lesser charge than ‘perjury’?‘Misleading the court’ or something like that, perhaps?
Would you buy a used car from a Barrister?
Reports in from the NSW Central Coast.
sarahs mum said:
Reports in from the NSW Central Coast.
REPORT RECIEVED LOUD AND CLEAR STOP
OVER STOP
sarahs mum said:
Reports in from the NSW Central Coast.
How was the aeroplane flight?
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Reports in from the NSW Central Coast.
How was the aeroplane flight?
uneventful. and Keta arrived to pick me up about 10 minutes after I got myself to priority pick up. Which was long enough for the cigarette and a get it together. Lots of traffic coming up the coast. But it’s pretty nice out her on the front verandah.Sister and niece have gone for a walk along the beach. I will do that at some stage but I hardly got any sleep last night. I am not feeling bouncy.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Reports in from the NSW Central Coast.
How was the aeroplane flight?
uneventful. and Keta arrived to pick me up about 10 minutes after I got myself to priority pick up. Which was long enough for the cigarette and a get it together. Lots of traffic coming up the coast. But it’s pretty nice out her on the front verandah.Sister and niece have gone for a walk along the beach. I will do that at some stage but I hardly got any sleep last night. I am not feeling bouncy.
Sounds a reasonably stress-free voyage :)
I thought I had adequate sleep last night but I’ve been nodding off all day. Combination of heat, humidity and the semi-fasting diet I assume.
In NSW..
The ethical standards do not prevent criminal lawyers from representing a client they know is guilty, but the lawyer will not be able to lie or knowingly mislead the court on their client’s behalf.
If you are guilty of a criminal or traffic offence, and you advise your lawyer of this, they will still be able to represent you.
It is not considered advisable for a criminal lawyer to defend a not guilty charge if you have admitted your guilt, and it will not usually be in your best interests as a client if they do so.
If your lawyer is aware that you are guilty and you want to defend the charges against you, your best solution is to find another lawyer to represent you.
This is because a lawyer who is aware of your guilt can only defend you by ‘putting the prosecution to proof’.
This means that your lawyer can try to force the prosecution to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt, but he or she will not be able to tell the court that you are innocent.
http://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/42902/6/WestgarthM1.pdf
ADSL a few moments ago:

Do you have your modem sorted yet Mr Car?
Two sporks are now converted to coat hooks and now adorn the wall beside the bed, but beyond the bedside table and window (each side of the bed).
Thanks for you help earlier today, everyone.
:)
Michael V said:
ADSL a few moments ago:
Do you have your modem sorted yet Mr Car?
Two sporks are now converted to coat hooks and now adorn the wall beside the bed, but beyond the bedside table and window (each side of the bed).
Thanks for you help earlier today, everyone.
:)
Photos?
38.0°C @14% R/H
Wonders if the heat and fires will have any influence on the Qld public opinion re GW., or as usual “we have had bad fires before.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-08/from-space,-the-ferocity-of-queenslands-bushfires-is-revealed/10594662?fbclid=IwAR20iphdzQdseAkO0Bxjbq8Z1vRXccI0t9JVAY0FVd7EjQPF9LckzEp269Y
sarahs mum said:
Looks a pleasant garden.
captain_spalding said:
We went to a local second-hand emporium, deals in furniture, electrical , all sorts.I got a Bosch jigsaw for $5.00.
bargain
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
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Looks a pleasant garden.
I’ll sit in the back garden sometime and take some more.
Michael V said:
ADSL a few moments ago:
Do you have your modem sorted yet Mr Car?
Two sporks are now converted to coat hooks and now adorn the wall beside the bed, but beyond the bedside table and window (each side of the bed).
Thanks for you help earlier today, everyone.
:)
I haven’t tried moving it yet. I may end up putting it in the hallway but I’ll probably need a phone line longer than the longest one I currently have.
Michael V said:
ADSL a few moments ago:
Do you have your modem sorted yet Mr Car?
Two sporks are now converted to coat hooks and now adorn the wall beside the bed, but beyond the bedside table and window (each side of the bed).
Thanks for you help earlier today, everyone.
:)

Satellite in Strathmore.
Have to move house in 6 weeks and moving just down the road to where it is sunlit uplands and unicorn farts – NBN land. Will be interesting to see the result difference.
Michael V said:
ADSL a few moments ago:
Do you have your modem sorted yet Mr Car?
Two sporks are now converted to coat hooks and now adorn the wall beside the bed, but beyond the bedside table and window (each side of the bed).
Thanks for you help earlier today, everyone.
:)
No wuckers.
You got a slow upload speed.
Ian said:
Michael V said:
ADSL a few moments ago:
Do you have your modem sorted yet Mr Car?
Two sporks are now converted to coat hooks and now adorn the wall beside the bed, but beyond the bedside table and window (each side of the bed).
Thanks for you help earlier today, everyone.
:)
No wuckers.
You got a slow upload speed.
Yes, my upload speed is slightly faster than that.
But my download speed is muuuch slower.
sarahs mum said:
Reports in from the NSW Central Coast.
Nice part of the world, but it has turned into one big city.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
ADSL a few moments ago:
Do you have your modem sorted yet Mr Car?
Two sporks are now converted to coat hooks and now adorn the wall beside the bed, but beyond the bedside table and window (each side of the bed).
Thanks for you help earlier today, everyone.
:)
Satellite in Strathmore.
Have to move house in 6 weeks and moving just down the road to where it is sunlit uplands and unicorn farts – NBN land. Will be interesting to see the result difference.
trashed this current place eh?
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
ADSL a few moments ago:
Do you have your modem sorted yet Mr Car?
Two sporks are now converted to coat hooks and now adorn the wall beside the bed, but beyond the bedside table and window (each side of the bed).
Thanks for you help earlier today, everyone.
:)
Satellite in Strathmore.
Have to move house in 6 weeks and moving just down the road to where it is sunlit uplands and unicorn farts – NBN land. Will be interesting to see the result difference.
trashed this current place eh?
Something like that :)

fixed wireless, ping is always slow. ~70 is the best.
Bogsnorkler said:
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fixed wireless, ping is always slow. ~70 is the best.

via my ISP server in Melbourne.
What you need to do is add your upload speed to your download speed and divide it by your ping number.
The resulting number is your Standard Performance Base Quotient (SPBQ).
You can look up your SPBQ on the net and compare it with a thematic chart for your ISP and area node.
sarahs mum said:
nice :-), enjoyed them
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
ADSL a few moments ago:
Do you have your modem sorted yet Mr Car?
Two sporks are now converted to coat hooks and now adorn the wall beside the bed, but beyond the bedside table and window (each side of the bed).
Thanks for you help earlier today, everyone.
:)
Photos?
38.0°C @14% R/H
Camera’s not charged up.
Peak Warming Man said:
What you need to do is add your upload speed to your download speed and divide it by your ping number.
The resulting number is your Standard Performance Base Quotient (SPBQ).
You can look up your SPBQ on the net and compare it with a thematic chart for your ISP and area node.
yeah, that’s what the woman in the Philippines told me to do when i questioned my slow speeds.
Ian said:
Michael V said:
ADSL a few moments ago:
Do you have your modem sorted yet Mr Car?
Two sporks are now converted to coat hooks and now adorn the wall beside the bed, but beyond the bedside table and window (each side of the bed).
Thanks for you help earlier today, everyone.
:)
No wuckers.
You got a slow upload speed.
Really? What should it be?
And why would it be slow when download is OK.
Ian said:
sarahs mum said:
Reports in from the NSW Central Coast.Nice part of the world, but it has turned into one big city.
MacMasters Beach. A few houses from beach in one direction. A few houses from lagoon in the other.
Peak Warming Man said:
What you need to do is add your upload speed to your download speed and divide it by your ping number.
The resulting number is your Standard Performance Base Quotient (SPBQ).
You can look up your SPBQ on the net and compare it with a thematic chart for your ISP and area node.
Ref and URL?
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
What you need to do is add your upload speed to your download speed and divide it by your ping number.
The resulting number is your Standard Performance Base Quotient (SPBQ).
You can look up your SPBQ on the net and compare it with a thematic chart for your ISP and area node.
Ref and URL?
He’s telling fibs.
Kangaroo and veggies, stir fried.
The citrus cake for tomorrow is in the oven while I eat my tea.

Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
What you need to do is add your upload speed to your download speed and divide it by your ping number.
The resulting number is your Standard Performance Base Quotient (SPBQ).
You can look up your SPBQ on the net and compare it with a thematic chart for your ISP and area node.
Ref and URL?
He’s telling fibs.
I thought he might have been.
party_pants said:
:)
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
We went to a local second-hand emporium, deals in furniture, electrical , all sorts.I got a Bosch jigsaw for $5.00.
All the pieces?
No, just the jigsaw, but it’s a good sturdy one, with the shoe/bottom plate.
Tested and tagged?
Michael V said:
Ian said:
Michael V said:
ADSL a few moments ago:
Do you have your modem sorted yet Mr Car?
Two sporks are now converted to coat hooks and now adorn the wall beside the bed, but beyond the bedside table and window (each side of the bed).
Thanks for you help earlier today, everyone.
:)
No wuckers.
You got a slow upload speed.
Really? What should it be?
And why would it be slow when download is OK.
What is it.. 25/5 plan?
Ian said:
Michael V said:
Ian said:No wuckers.
You got a slow upload speed.
Really? What should it be?
And why would it be slow when download is OK.
What is it.. 25/5 plan?
ADSL
sarahs mum said:
Ian said:
sarahs mum said:
Reports in from the NSW Central Coast.Nice part of the world, but it has turned into one big city.
MacMasters Beach. A few houses from beach in one direction. A few houses from lagoon in the other.
Thought it look a bit like Maccas.
:)
Tau.Neutrino said:
transition said:
transition said:really smart when a lawyer becomes a witness in a case, like that
unscramble that egg.
when you engage the services of a lawyer, there is agreement as part of the engaging of services, to do with your business, and the idea applies more generally to agreements.
the thing is people charged with whatever have a right to a defense (involving people doing the defending), a right to agreements, no less so of professional legal services.
so you know you don’t want your kids’ dentist supplying your kids with lollipops, for example, as an analogy.
A barrister informant must involve some level of conflict of interest and betrayal to the bar?.
Yeah, I said I got that bit. The ethics of the legal profession stuff.
Michael V said:
Ian said:
Michael V said:Really? What should it be?
And why would it be slow when download is OK.
What is it.. 25/5 plan?
ADSL
Oh, dunno
Emu-wrens weigh 5.5 grams? Seems anorexic, even for a tiny bird.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-08/mallee-emu-wren-breeding-out-of-sa-extinction/10593932
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
Satellite in Strathmore.
Have to move house in 6 weeks and moving just down the road to where it is sunlit uplands and unicorn farts – NBN land. Will be interesting to see the result difference.
trashed this current place eh?
Something like that :)

Thought I’d try my phone. Faster than my satellite connection.
sibeen said:
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:trashed this current place eh?
Something like that :)
Thought I’d try my phone. Faster than my satellite connection.
Actually, that’s quite funny. Faster than 87% of Oz. What percentage has NBN installed?
And tea is etten and the cake is out of the oven. As I can’t eat that tonight, I might pull a piece of the teacake out of the freezer and nuke it unfrozen. And eat that for dessert now.
buffy said:
And tea is etten and the cake is out of the oven. As I can’t eat that tonight, I might pull a piece of the teacake out of the freezer and nuke it unfrozen. And eat that for dessert now.
Tea will be steak burger and popular cola.
buffy said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
transition said:when you engage the services of a lawyer, there is agreement as part of the engaging of services, to do with your business, and the idea applies more generally to agreements.
the thing is people charged with whatever have a right to a defense (involving people doing the defending), a right to agreements, no less so of professional legal services.
so you know you don’t want your kids’ dentist supplying your kids with lollipops, for example, as an analogy.
A barrister informant must involve some level of conflict of interest and betrayal to the bar?.
Yeah, I said I got that bit. The ethics of the legal profession stuff.
Yet your run of the mill optometrist can sell a customer the worst kind of 1970s spectacles and get off scott-free. It’s not right!
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
Satellite in Strathmore.
Have to move house in 6 weeks and moving just down the road to where it is sunlit uplands and unicorn farts – NBN land. Will be interesting to see the result difference.
trashed this current place eh?
Something like that :)
How do you manage to get 10ms ping on satellite?
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
Tau.Neutrino said:A barrister informant must involve some level of conflict of interest and betrayal to the bar?.
Yeah, I said I got that bit. The ethics of the legal profession stuff.
Yet your run of the mill optometrist can sell a customer the worst kind of 1970s spectacles and get off scott-free. It’s not right!
Actually the trendy stuff at the moment is based on 60s design. And because my patients are largely older folk, many of them don’t want to go back there…
:)
Personally I wear a basic traditional sort of lightweight frame shape. I’ve been in the industry long enough now to be reasonably good at telling what is going to be out again in a short time.
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:Yeah, I said I got that bit. The ethics of the legal profession stuff.
Yet your run of the mill optometrist can sell a customer the worst kind of 1970s spectacles and get off scott-free. It’s not right!
Actually the trendy stuff at the moment is based on 60s design. And because my patients are largely older folk, many of them don’t want to go back there…
:)
Personally I wear a basic traditional sort of lightweight frame shape. I’ve been in the industry long enough now to be reasonably good at telling what is going to be out again in a short time.
Seems to me the chunky black plastic type are popular with younger women, sort of like Clarke Kent type.
Michael V said:
Emu-wrens weigh 5.5 grams? Seems anorexic, even for a tiny bird.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-08/mallee-emu-wren-breeding-out-of-sa-extinction/10593932
Introducing these insectivorous birds to a regenerating landscape after fire is probably the best time to do it, as many small short-lived plants make an appearance and these attract many insects. Orb-spiders are usually also very abundant at this same time for the same reason.
PermeateFree said:
Michael V said:
Emu-wrens weigh 5.5 grams? Seems anorexic, even for a tiny bird.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-08/mallee-emu-wren-breeding-out-of-sa-extinction/10593932
Introducing these insectivorous birds to a regenerating landscape after fire is probably the best time to do it, as many small short-lived plants make an appearance and these attract many insects. Orb-spiders are usually also very abundant at this same time for the same reason.
But are they so lightweight?
Michael V said:
PermeateFree said:
Michael V said:
Emu-wrens weigh 5.5 grams? Seems anorexic, even for a tiny bird.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-08/mallee-emu-wren-breeding-out-of-sa-extinction/10593932
Introducing these insectivorous birds to a regenerating landscape after fire is probably the best time to do it, as many small short-lived plants make an appearance and these attract many insects. Orb-spiders are usually also very abundant at this same time for the same reason.
But are they so lightweight?
There are plenty of small insects.
I’ll just post this in the correct thred:
Bill of the Many Handles would be green with envy if he saw this, i think:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PHcdn8R4d4
captain_spalding said:
I’ll just post this in the correct thred:Bill of the Many Handles would be green with envy if he saw this, i think:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PHcdn8R4d4
VTOL. That makes it easier to park. I have to watch without sound. Is this a Harrier?
captain_spalding said:
I’ll just post this in the correct thred:Bill of the Many Handles would be green with envy if he saw this, i think:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PHcdn8R4d4
Fighter planes are big fun! MrsRule and I did this basic dogfighting package when we were in California a few years ago. Even flying the training planes (2-seat bug smashers with a single-prop 290hp motivator) was huge fun.
mollwollfumble said:
captain_spalding said:
I’ll just post this in the correct thred:Bill of the Many Handles would be green with envy if he saw this, i think:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PHcdn8R4d4
VTOL. That makes it easier to park. I have to watch without sound. Is this a Harrier?
Yeah. Former US Marines harrier pilot, test pilot etc. Bought a surplus British Sea Harrier and flys it around the US aviation show tour.
party_pants said:
mollwollfumble said:
captain_spalding said:
I’ll just post this in the correct thred:Bill of the Many Handles would be green with envy if he saw this, i think:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PHcdn8R4d4
VTOL. That makes it easier to park. I have to watch without sound. Is this a Harrier?
Yeah. Former US Marines harrier pilot, test pilot etc. Bought a surplus British Sea Harrier and flys it around the US aviation show tour.
Ta. His wife said casually about her growing up: “we bought an airport”. Well I suppose in that case, owning a fighter jet could be a small thing.
First a Russian Yak
Then a Czech L39.
Only then a Harrier.
Bought it within 4 hours of seeing it. But getting tyres took six months.
Rule 303 said:
captain_spalding said:
I’ll just post this in the correct thred:Bill of the Many Handles would be green with envy if he saw this, i think:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PHcdn8R4d4
Fighter planes are big fun! MrsRule and I did this basic dogfighting package when we were in California a few years ago. Even flying the training planes (2-seat bug smashers with a single-prop 290hp motivator) was huge fun.
It would want to be fun at those prices.
yah snakes!
just little bag she reckons I can’t do too much damage
transition said:
yah snakes!just little bag she reckons I can’t do too much damage
:)
sarahs mum said:
transition said:
yah snakes!just little bag she reckons I can’t do too much damage
:)
finished
piggy sounds
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
transition said:
yah snakes!just little bag she reckons I can’t do too much damage
:)
finished
piggy sounds
I’ve known some pigs in my time and you Sir are no pig!
:-p
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
transition said:
yah snakes!just little bag she reckons I can’t do too much damage
:)
finished
piggy sounds
fucking hell, check your blood sugars and take some insulin!
And there we were, three against a thousand…………………….
The French are revolting.
Peak Warming Man said:
The French are revolting.
What would an Australian government do if such protest/action occurred here?
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The French are revolting.
What would an Australian government do if such protest/action occurred here?
Tell them to fuck off back to school.
Peak Warming Man said:
The French are revolting.
what about?
How can you govern a country with a thousand different types of cheese?
At least Uranus doesn’t have the winking eye.
Divine Angel said:
At least Uranus doesn’t have the winking eye.
the author probably edited it a couple of times…
Divine Angel said:
At least Uranus doesn’t have the winking eye.
Well that seems wrong…
Things got a bit feral during the first few months of Victoria’s Kennett government in 1993; protesting school closures etc. That said the French are nuts for both rioting and opposing sane government policies that attempt to bring France in to line with the rest of the developed world.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Things got a bit feral during the first few months of Victoria’s Kennett government in 1993; protesting school closures etc. That said the French are nuts for both rioting and opposing sane government policies that attempt to bring France in to line with the rest of the developed world.
What’s the issue in France, for these riots?
Divine Angel said:
At least Uranus doesn’t have the winking eye.
Nanomo is a public menace and should be banned..
party_pants said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Things got a bit feral during the first few months of Victoria’s Kennett government in 1993; protesting school closures etc. That said the French are nuts for both rioting and opposing sane government policies that attempt to bring France in to line with the rest of the developed world.
What’s the issue in France, for these riots?
Started off with protest by rural folk against a rise in the diesel fuel tax to properly account for the greenhouse gas emissions of said fuel.
party_pants said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Things got a bit feral during the first few months of Victoria’s Kennett government in 1993; protesting school closures etc. That said the French are nuts for both rioting and opposing sane government policies that attempt to bring France in to line with the rest of the developed world.
What’s the issue in France, for these riots?
The shaving of 10% off the standard size of a croissant.
Witty Rejoinder said:
party_pants said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Things got a bit feral during the first few months of Victoria’s Kennett government in 1993; protesting school closures etc. That said the French are nuts for both rioting and opposing sane government policies that attempt to bring France in to line with the rest of the developed world.
What’s the issue in France, for these riots?
Started off with protest by rural folk against a rise in the diesel fuel tax to properly account for the greenhouse gas emissions of said fuel.
Ok.
well fuck them then.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Things got a bit feral during the first few months of Victoria’s Kennett government in 1993; protesting school closures etc. That said the French are nuts for both rioting and opposing sane government policies that attempt to bring France in to line with the rest of the developed world.
What’s the issue in France, for these riots?
The shaving of 10% off the standard size of a croissant.
peers over glasses
Watching the new version of The Jungle Book because MrsRule. Much darker, and no cool music.
2 out of 5 bananas.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Things got a bit feral during the first few months of Victoria’s Kennett government in 1993; protesting school closures etc. That said the French are nuts for both rioting and opposing sane government policies that attempt to bring France in to line with the rest of the developed world.
Yes. I remember a big demo about Kennett govt policies (Fed Sq or somewhere), not long after they’d got into power by a big majority.
Some union bloke got up on the dais, and asked ‘who hates Kennett?’: Response: A roar of ‘I do’ ‘Me’ ‘we do’.
Then he asked ‘who voted for Kennett?’. Response: crickets chirping.
‘Yeah, i thought so’, he said.
captain_spalding said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Things got a bit feral during the first few months of Victoria’s Kennett government in 1993; protesting school closures etc. That said the French are nuts for both rioting and opposing sane government policies that attempt to bring France in to line with the rest of the developed world.
Yes. I remember a big demo about Kennett govt policies (Fed Sq or somewhere), not long after they’d got into power by a big majority.
Some union bloke got up on the dais, and asked ‘who hates Kennett?’: Response: A roar of ‘I do’ ‘Me’ ‘we do’.
Then he asked ‘who voted for Kennett?’. Response: crickets chirping.
‘Yeah, i thought so’, he said.
Quite a few there probably kept shtum.
I wonder what a dine in growler is
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Things got a bit feral during the first few months of Victoria’s Kennett government in 1993; protesting school closures etc. That said the French are nuts for both rioting and opposing sane government policies that attempt to bring France in to line with the rest of the developed world.
What’s the issue in France, for these riots?
The shaving of 10% off the standard size of a croissant.
how do you shave a croissant?
dv said:
I wonder what a dine in growler is
WHAT IS A GROWLER?
Something that has exploded in usage across the world lately is the growler, traditionally this was any container that you could fill from the local pub / bar so you could take beer home with you. A “growler runner” was a boy who would fill a bunch of metal bucket with beer from the pub and bring them to work sites for labourers to drink with lunch (those were the good ol’ days!).
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:What’s the issue in France, for these riots?
The shaving of 10% off the standard size of a croissant.
how do you shave a croissant?
You start under its chin.
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:What’s the issue in France, for these riots?
The shaving of 10% off the standard size of a croissant.
how do you shave a croissant?
electric plane
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
I wonder what a dine in growler is
WHAT IS A GROWLER?
Something that has exploded in usage across the world lately is the growler, traditionally this was any container that you could fill from the local pub / bar so you could take beer home with you. A “growler runner” was a boy who would fill a bunch of metal bucket with beer from the pub and bring them to work sites for labourers to drink with lunch (those were the good ol’ days!).
I know of a bloke who found an elephant drinking beer in his back lane.
In Glebe, in Sydney. He’d gone to take the bins out for collection, and stepped through the back gate to find an elephant standing there with a can of beer held in its trunk, and an open carton of cans beside it. For some seconds, he looked at the elephant, and the elephant looked at him.
Then a chap came around the corner of the lane. It was the elephant’s trainer from a circus just arrived in Wentworth Park down the hill. The elephant loved beer, so each evening they’d take him to the nearest pub, and buy him a bucketful.
The local pub’s keg delivery was late, and they were running on canned beer. The trainer had given the elephant the first can, and ‘parked’ him in the lane while he attended to something for a minute or so.
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:The shaving of 10% off the standard size of a croissant.
how do you shave a croissant?
electric plane
Ca plane pour moi.
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:how do you shave a croissant?
electric plane
Ca plane pour moi.
tough crowd tonight
new computer there, well, new SH, we’ll get properly acquainted tomorrow. Win 10 so probably have to remortgage everything to keep the wireless internet going. I like Clint, so off to a good start that way
Divine Angel said:
At least Uranus doesn’t have the winking eye.
lot of she in that text
well the crime walk was interesting but poorly delivered.. and as far as I know everyone got out alive… and anyway you won’t be able to prove anything
Arts said:
well the crime walk was interesting but poorly delivered.. and as far as I know everyone got out alive… and anyway you won’t be able to prove anything
I think you might be getting to a stage where these things that were once of great interest and enthusiasm for you are getting to be disappointing to some degree, because they don’t quite come up to your now very high standards.
transition said:
Divine Angel said:
At least Uranus doesn’t have the winking eye.
lot of she in that text
Is it as bad as we ?
party_pants said:
Arts said:
well the crime walk was interesting but poorly delivered.. and as far as I know everyone got out alive… and anyway you won’t be able to prove anything
I think you might be getting to a stage where these things that were once of great interest and enthusiasm for you are getting to be disappointing to some degree, because they don’t quite come up to your now very high standards.
Nah, she’s always been contrary.
Tau.Neutrino said:
transition said:
Divine Angel said:
At least Uranus doesn’t have the winking eye.
lot of she in that text
Is it as bad as we ?
:-)
quite possibly.
people grow out of it you know. It’s like shitting your pants.
a nappy word, equivalent of a nappy.
that’s what we means, me and my nappy
party_pants said:
Arts said:
well the crime walk was interesting but poorly delivered.. and as far as I know everyone got out alive… and anyway you won’t be able to prove anything
I think you might be getting to a stage where these things that were once of great interest and enthusiasm for you are getting to be disappointing to some degree, because they don’t quite come up to your now very high standards.
valid point, well put
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
Arts said:
well the crime walk was interesting but poorly delivered.. and as far as I know everyone got out alive… and anyway you won’t be able to prove anything
I think you might be getting to a stage where these things that were once of great interest and enthusiasm for you are getting to be disappointing to some degree, because they don’t quite come up to your now very high standards.
Nah, she’s always been contrary.
I asked the dude what he used as a data base and he said.. google, reading blog posts and then finding further info in newspaper archives… so not exactly scientific
I suggested that he may want to look up court records or police reports (some of the historical ones maybe available) as a reasonable source of information, but he gave me a look that was like.. sure missy, I don’t get paid enough to fact check
Arts said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:I think you might be getting to a stage where these things that were once of great interest and enthusiasm for you are getting to be disappointing to some degree, because they don’t quite come up to your now very high standards.
Nah, she’s always been contrary.
I asked the dude what he used as a data base and he said.. google, reading blog posts and then finding further info in newspaper archives… so not exactly scientific
I suggested that he may want to look up court records or police reports (some of the historical ones maybe available) as a reasonable source of information, but he gave me a look that was like.. sure missy, I don’t get paid enough to fact check
Good. You pesky uni students need to be kept in your place.
sibeen said:
Arts said:
sibeen said:Nah, she’s always been contrary.
I asked the dude what he used as a data base and he said.. google, reading blog posts and then finding further info in newspaper archives… so not exactly scientific
I suggested that he may want to look up court records or police reports (some of the historical ones maybe available) as a reasonable source of information, but he gave me a look that was like.. sure missy, I don’t get paid enough to fact check
Good. You pesky uni students need to be kept in your place.
we do.. but only if it’s fully referenced
party_pants said:
Arts said:
well the crime walk was interesting but poorly delivered.. and as far as I know everyone got out alive… and anyway you won’t be able to prove anything
I think you might be getting to a stage where these things that were once of great interest and enthusiasm for you are getting to be disappointing to some degree, because they don’t quite come up to your now very high standards.
Destined to a life of unbearable mediocrity.
kii said:
interesting picture, it’s clock o’clock
they’re everywhere too, proliferating apparently, as if breeding.
makes a cross on the wall seem, well, somewhat neutral, much less demanding.
what would the ten commandments of the church of clocks be
transition said:
kii said:
interesting picture, it’s clock o’clock
they’re everywhere too, proliferating apparently, as if breeding.
makes a cross on the wall seem, well, somewhat neutral, much less demanding.
what would the ten commandments of the church of clocks be
> what would the ten commandments of the church of clocks be
Oh, a challenge.
mollwollfumble said:
transition said:
kii said:
interesting picture, it’s clock o’clock
they’re everywhere too, proliferating apparently, as if breeding.
makes a cross on the wall seem, well, somewhat neutral, much less demanding.
what would the ten commandments of the church of clocks be
> what would the ten commandments of the church of clocks be
Oh, a challenge.
- Clock anyone who doesn’t share your religion
- Watch the clock while working
- Make time for your family and friends
- Leap seconds are against the law of God
- Worship caesium-133
- ?
i’d think these’d be in there amongst
linear
a day will be twenty-four hours
an hour will be sixty minutes
a minute will be sixty seconds
Scomo has made such an impact, a quarter of Australians don’t even know who he is:
https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-government-australia-left-behind-20181207-p50ktd.html
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
At least Uranus doesn’t have the winking eye.
Well that seems wrong…
Uranus does have rings, but it’s Saturn that’s well known for them…
This author used to be one of my faves, but this novel is stupid. (Chris Bohjalian, The Guest Room)
Overcast and heading to 25 today.
Divine Angel said:
Overcast and heading to 25 today.
27.3°C currently
Relative Humidity
34%
for Sunday
Hot. Partly cloudy. Medium chance of showers and the chance of a thunderstorm in the south, most likely during this afternoon and evening. Winds NE/SE 15 to 20 km/h tending N/NW 15 to 25 km/h in the morning then tending SE/SW in the late evening. Daytime maximum temperatures 35 to 40.
Silly season nooz.
BINNED Amazon pull shepherd costume – after Scots mum sent son, five, off to school nativity with a blow up sheep SEX DOLL
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/3592775/alloa-mum-son-school-blow-up-sex-doll-sheep-amazon-pulled/
Bubblecar said:
Scomo has made such an impact, a quarter of Australians don’t even know who he is:https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-government-australia-left-behind-20181207-p50ktd.html
Warning: devil’s advocate mode.
You can’t have it both ways.
Either a politician makes an impression, like Rump.
Or they don’t, like SloMo.
mollwollfumble said:
Bubblecar said:
Scomo has made such an impact, a quarter of Australians don’t even know who he is:https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-government-australia-left-behind-20181207-p50ktd.html
Warning: devil’s advocate mode.
You can’t have it both ways.
Either a politician makes an impression, like Rump.
Or they don’t, like SloMo.
But, it’s not just about Morrison. As the article says, the L/NP govt, especially the Liberals, have, over the last several years, dropped the few remaining threads that connected them to the country that the rest of us live in. They now exist in a world solely occupied by ‘powerbrokers’, ‘numbers men’, and lobbyists. They not only don’t care about the electorate, they’ve managed to forget that it exists at all.
I’m not saying that Labor is going to be the magic solution to it all, but the L/NP is just making it so easy for them right now. The L/NP can’t stop Labor winning the next election. Only the ALP can do that (and, if they can think of a way to do it, they will).
Seems Mr Car sent us back in time again…
bump
Witty Rejoinder said:
Seems Mr Car sent us back in time again…bump
There are a number of such chat threads. Don’t worry, it should be all over bar the shouting new years eve.
So apparently there were absolutely zero still images or footage of the drones that shut down Gatwick.
dv said:
So apparently there were absolutely zero still images or footage of the drones that shut down Gatwick.
Conspiracy by the neocons you think ?
Cymek said:
dv said:
So apparently there were absolutely zero still images or footage of the drones that shut down Gatwick.
Conspiracy by the neocons you think ?
I don’t think so. It just seems amazing. One assumes that any noteworthy thing at an airport with tens of thousands of people present would be recorded from many angles.
Cymek said:
dv said:
Cymek said:Is it any good ?
Yeah it’s really good. Very immersive. There are quite a few decent free games available, and websites that are designed for the format, but also some very cheap games.
That’s good
My son likes a fishing game called Bait … I’m surprised such a relaxing game keeps him entertained
dv said:
Cymek said:
dv said:Yeah it’s really good. Very immersive. There are quite a few decent free games available, and websites that are designed for the format, but also some very cheap games.
That’s good
My son likes a fishing game called Bait … I’m surprised such a relaxing game keeps him entertained
There’s also a scary one called Face Your Fears … quite successfully creepy
So Bumblebee is getting very good reviews, basically the only film in the series that has not been critically panned, but it also looks like it is the only film in the series that runs at a loss.
dv said:
So Bumblebee is getting very good reviews, basically the only film in the series that has not been critically panned, but it also looks like it is the only film in the series that runs at a loss.
The first movie was OK but they got progressively worse
Cymek said:
dv said:
So Bumblebee is getting very good reviews, basically the only film in the series that has not been critically panned, but it also looks like it is the only film in the series that runs at a loss.
The first movie was OK but they got progressively worse
Transformers? Shits me. I like my movies to have a bit of coherence, all the vastly different bits and increase in sizes ruins it for me. Tried too hard to shoehorn a toy into a movie.
AwesomeO said:
Cymek said:
dv said:
So Bumblebee is getting very good reviews, basically the only film in the series that has not been critically panned, but it also looks like it is the only film in the series that runs at a loss.
The first movie was OK but they got progressively worse
Transformers? Shits me. I like my movies to have a bit of coherence, all the vastly different bits and increase in sizes ruins it for me. Tried too hard to shoehorn a toy into a movie.
Exactly. Unwatchable.
But yeah apparently the new one is good but yeah nah too little too late.
Tea tonight will be a bacon and egg samwitch.
Peak Warming Man said:
Tea tonight will be a bacon and egg samwitch.
We shall be nibbling on leftover lamb and stuff
I think Trump should do alright re Santa this year.
Being a non religious secular chap with no moral compass it will be hard for Santa to hold him to account on anything.
Peak Warming Man said:
I think Trump should do alright re Santa this year.
Being a non religious secular chap with no moral compass it will be hard for Santa to hold him to account on anything.
Do you reckon Santa might bring him a moral compass?
AwesomeO said:
Cymek said:
dv said:
So Bumblebee is getting very good reviews, basically the only film in the series that has not been critically panned, but it also looks like it is the only film in the series that runs at a loss.
The first movie was OK but they got progressively worse
Transformers? Shits me. I like my movies to have a bit of coherence, all the vastly different bits and increase in sizes ruins it for me. Tried too hard to shoehorn a toy into a movie.
Yes and the complexity of them made any fighting scenes messy plus you never connected with any of them so them dying meant nothing
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I think Trump should do alright re Santa this year.
Being a non religious secular chap with no moral compass it will be hard for Santa to hold him to account on anything.
Do you reckon Santa might bring him a moral compass?
He wouldn’t know how to use it.
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I think Trump should do alright re Santa this year.
Being a non religious secular chap with no moral compass it will be hard for Santa to hold him to account on anything.
Do you reckon Santa might bring him a moral compass?
Have you seen Trump’s single, its called Guy Love, love between three guys, me, Putin and Kim
Food report. Stir fried veggies and leftover roast chook with Xinjiang spice mix and a splash of light soy sauce. It’s a tad hotter than ideal for me but Mr buffy is enjoying it. I have a glass of milk with me.
Peak Warming Man said:
Tea tonight will be a bacon and egg samwitch.
I had that for breakfast.
Oh dear.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-24/sydney-opal-tower-cracking-building-evacuation/10666734
buffy said:
Oh dear.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-24/sydney-opal-tower-cracking-building-evacuation/10666734
dear oh dear. Building is almost brand new too.
the doors being jammed shut does not sound promising.
buffy said:
Food report. Stir fried veggies and leftover roast chook with Xinjiang spice mix and a splash of light soy sauce. It’s a tad hotter than ideal for me but Mr buffy is enjoying it. I have a glass of milk with me.
I’m not bothering with an evening meal until after those pies are made. There’ll be a lot of tasting involved in that.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:Food report. Stir fried veggies and leftover roast chook with Xinjiang spice mix and a splash of light soy sauce. It’s a tad hotter than ideal for me but Mr buffy is enjoying it. I have a glass of milk with me.
I’m not bothering with an evening meal until after those pies are made. There’ll be a lot of tasting involved in that.
I think I will do some freezer store fish and chips.The fish is NZ whiting done salt and pepper.
Now here’s a quadlemma.
Do I go with DA’s merriment, or kii’s humbug, or kii’s joyouskrampusness, or sarahahsmum’s chat?
Maybe better just stick to ordinary chat.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Now here’s a quadlemma.Do I go with DA’s merriment, or kii’s humbug, or kii’s joyouskrampusness, or sarahahsmum’s chat?
Maybe better just stick to ordinary chat.
At least you’re in the right year.
Something for trans to ponder.


https://www.thehungrymouse.com/2009/02/11/the-best-way-to-roast-a-duck-hello-crispy-skin/
Somehow I reckon the oven temps might be Fahrenheit.
party_pants said:
buffy said:Oh dear.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-24/sydney-opal-tower-cracking-building-evacuation/10666734
dear oh dear. Building is almost brand new too.
the doors being jammed shut does not sound promising.
“It was designed by Australian architecture firm Bates Smart.”
Much as I would like to blame the architects for any structural deficiencies, the likelihood is that if there are any design deficiencies, it is the structural engineers who will be sued.
NewExaminer
4 mins ·
NATIONAL PARTY DEFENDS TASTEFUL AND RESTRAINED $513 000 DEVONPORT OFFICE RENOVATION
Embattled Tasmanian National Party Senator Steve Martin is tonight in lockdown in his new Devonport office after coming under fire for wasting taxpayer dollars on what some critics are calling a fucking huge waste of public money.
The ex Jacquie Lambie Party Senator, who was elected on countback after Senator Lambie was declared ineligible due to her dual citizenship and inability to string two words together in a coherent manner, was unwilling to speak to the New Examiner. A spokesperson for the National Party was however able to make a statement on condition of anonymity.
“Look, I know that $500 000 is a lot of money to spend on an office, especially in a shithole like Devonport. But let’s face it, we’re the National Party and we have standards to uphold. We’re a hard drinking, hard rooting and hard fighting bunch of blokes and probably one woman as I think the other one quit yesterday. The Greens like to conduct their meetings in caves and tree cubbies, the ALP in stinky old town halls, but that doesn’t work for us. If we need to meet with our constituents and donors to discuss the most efficient way to clear unnecessary wildlife habitats, we like to do it style on a rotating bed with a ceiling mirror, spa bath and enough piss to entertain the population of Smithton on fight night at Tall Timbers.”
Turkey thigh is in the oven and smelling tasty, baby carrots and parsnips have been sliced and cooked.
In about half an hour I’ll lightly cook the chopped onion, garlic and mushrooms in olive oil, sour cream & white wine, adding fresh chopped lovage, dill and sage at the last minute.
Then when the turkey’s cooked and sliced it’ll all be combined to make to the pie filling, along with seasonings.

ChrispenEvan said:
That is like amazing.
President Donald Trump wants to fire Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell for raising interest rates, according to a report, an unprecedented action by a president against the independent body, that could undermine confidence in the U.S. financial system already under the strain of a vicious equity sell-off.
Trump has discussed firing Powell privately because of his frustration with stock market losses in recent months, according to Bloomberg News, which cited four people familiar with the situation. The president’s frustration intensified in recent days, with him discussing the firing “many times” during that time, according to the report.
The Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped 7 percent this week, its worst week in 10 years, on fears the Fed is unnecessarily slowing the economy as the central bank on Wednesday raised its benchmark interest rate for a fourth time this year. The Dow, which Trump cheered when it was at record highs earlier this year, is now down 9 percent in 2018.
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Yeah I’m sure it is the Fed Chairman that’s causing the stock market to tank, not the President’s erratic policies.
Peak Warming Man said:
ChrispenEvan said:
That is like amazing.
I gave it two stars. Margaret?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2018-12-24/clifton-hills-purchased-australian-famrers/10645440
Clifton Hills, the world’s second-largest farm sells to Australian pastoralists

dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
ChrispenEvan said:
That is like amazing.
I gave it two stars. Margaret?
It was a strip in the old Heavy Metal magazine
https://raggedclaws.com/2008/10/16/look-here-im-age-by-jeffrey-jones-part-four/
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2018-12-24/clifton-hills-purchased-australian-famrers/10645440
Clifton Hills, the world’s second-largest farm sells to Australian pastoralists
Are Australians still allowed to buy pastoral properties?
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2018-12-24/clifton-hills-purchased-australian-famrers/10645440
Clifton Hills, the world’s second-largest farm sells to Australian pastoralists
Are Australians still allowed to buy pastoral properties?
Going by the information in this news item, I’m going to go right out there on a limb and say yes
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2018-08-07/farmers-challenge-public-perception-of-drought/10078840
Farmers are concerned the media is focusing too heavily on drought disaster stories that are damaging the reputation of Australia’s livestock industry.
They also say the majority of farmers are not shooting their animals or letting them starve in paddocks.
In recent weeks, stories profiling farmers struggling to feed stock, often showing underweight sheep or cows or even dead livestock, have been headline stories across Australia.
“In the media at the moment all you seem to see is busted cockies with starving animals. I don’t know if that is a great reflection of what is happening out there,” Scone farmer Adam Williamson said.
“These are times where there’s a lot of judgment on people not doing the right thing, and I don’t think the industry wants to be tarred with such a brush.”
Almost 100 per cent of New South Wales is either in drought, on drought watch or experiencing the onset of drought, while 57 per cent of Queensland is classified as in drought.
Mr Williamson, who has been experiencing dry conditions for two years, said many in Queensland and New South Wales had planned for drought and destocked early, while also setting aside reserve fodder or grain.
“It’s sometimes a hard thing but that is business and that is the same for everybody across the board. It’s just that in this instance animals’ lives are being impacted,” he said.
“In some cases it is mistreatment of these animals.”
dv said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2018-12-24/clifton-hills-purchased-australian-famrers/10645440
Clifton Hills, the world’s second-largest farm sells to Australian pastoralists
Are Australians still allowed to buy pastoral properties?
Going by the information in this news item, I’m going to go right out there on a limb and say yes
BTW what an interesting looking fellow, from his broom of a moustache, to his quirky nose, right to that odd hat.
dv said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2018-12-24/clifton-hills-purchased-australian-famrers/10645440
Clifton Hills, the world’s second-largest farm sells to Australian pastoralists
Are Australians still allowed to buy pastoral properties?
Going by the information in this news item, I’m going to go right out there on a limb and say yes
I’m sure that President-for-as-long-as-i-bloody-well-feel-like-it Xi Jinping will have something to say about that.
dv said:
President Donald Trump wants to fire Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell for raising interest rates, according to a report, an unprecedented action by a president against the independent body, that could undermine confidence in the U.S. financial system already under the strain of a vicious equity sell-off.Trump has discussed firing Powell privately because of his frustration with stock market losses in recent months, according to Bloomberg News, which cited four people familiar with the situation. The president’s frustration intensified in recent days, with him discussing the firing “many times” during that time, according to the report.
The Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped 7 percent this week, its worst week in 10 years, on fears the Fed is unnecessarily slowing the economy as the central bank on Wednesday raised its benchmark interest rate for a fourth time this year. The Dow, which Trump cheered when it was at record highs earlier this year, is now down 9 percent in 2018.
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Yeah I’m sure it is the Fed Chairman that’s causing the stock market to tank, not the President’s erratic policies.
I’d wager you’re wrong on that one.
I’ll give that turkey five more of your Earth minutes before it comes out.
Bubblecar said:
I’ll give that turkey five more of your Earth minutes before it comes out.
that’s only fair
Once these pies are completed I’ll be relaxing with The Mind Robber (cosy Troughton Who story with Jamie & Zoe) on DVD on the big new telly in the living room.
dv said:
dv said:
captain_spalding said:Are Australians still allowed to buy pastoral properties?
Going by the information in this news item, I’m going to go right out there on a limb and say yes
BTW what an interesting looking fellow, from his broom of a moustache, to his quirky nose, right to that odd hat.
It’s a fine face.
Bubblecar said:
Once these pies are completed I’ll be relaxing with The Mind Robber (cosy Troughton Who story with Jamie & Zoe) on DVD on the big new telly in the living room.
Not seen that one but from the synopsis it sounds quite interesting.
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
Once these pies are completed I’ll be relaxing with The Mind Robber (cosy Troughton Who story with Jamie & Zoe) on DVD on the big new telly in the living room.
Not seen that one but from the synopsis it sounds quite interesting.
It was one of the more surrealistic ones.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
Once these pies are completed I’ll be relaxing with The Mind Robber (cosy Troughton Who story with Jamie & Zoe) on DVD on the big new telly in the living room.
Not seen that one but from the synopsis it sounds quite interesting.
It was one of the more surrealistic ones.
Would have thought you would be watching this:
SBS
All Aboard The Sleigh Ride
Monday 24th December at 8:30 pm (135 minutes)
A magical journey like no other, an amazing two hour trip through breathtaking snow-white scenery, filmed from the perspective of a traditional reindeer driven sleigh, travelling through the forests and across the frozen lakes of Lapland. Without music or narration, the only sound is the crunching of snow and the gentle tinkle of sleigh bells. Unhurried and mesmerising, the ride is a unique opportunity to experience the life of the indigenous Sami people and witness their traditions such as ice fishing and camping out on the tundra. Sit back and indulge in the beautiful but simple treasures of this seasonal treat.
G
Premiere, Documentary
(Classification)
sarahs mum said:
Too early for him I think.


Ready for brushing with yolk of eggy, then in the oven they go.
PermeateFree said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:Not seen that one but from the synopsis it sounds quite interesting.
It was one of the more surrealistic ones.
Would have thought you would be watching this:
SBS
All Aboard The Sleigh Ride
Monday 24th December at 8:30 pm (135 minutes)
A magical journey like no other, an amazing two hour trip through breathtaking snow-white scenery, filmed from the perspective of a traditional reindeer driven sleigh, travelling through the forests and across the frozen lakes of Lapland. Without music or narration, the only sound is the crunching of snow and the gentle tinkle of sleigh bells. Unhurried and mesmerising, the ride is a unique opportunity to experience the life of the indigenous Sami people and witness their traditions such as ice fishing and camping out on the tundra. Sit back and indulge in the beautiful but simple treasures of this seasonal treat.
G
Premiere, Documentary
(Classification)
Sounds good but I’ve been busy cooking.

Bubblecar said:
Ready for brushing with yolk of eggy, then in the oven they go.
hmmmmn… pies
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
Ready for brushing with yolk of eggy, then in the oven they go.
hmmmmn… pies
Nice crimping.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
Ready for brushing with yolk of eggy, then in the oven they go.
hmmmmn… pies
Here they are before the lids were added. Turkey, mushrooms, baby carrots, parsnips, onion, garlic, dill, lovage, sage, white wine, sour cream, salt & pepper etc.
Bubblecar said:
PermeateFree said:
Bubblecar said:It was one of the more surrealistic ones.
Would have thought you would be watching this:
SBS
All Aboard The Sleigh Ride
Monday 24th December at 8:30 pm (135 minutes)
A magical journey like no other, an amazing two hour trip through breathtaking snow-white scenery, filmed from the perspective of a traditional reindeer driven sleigh, travelling through the forests and across the frozen lakes of Lapland. Without music or narration, the only sound is the crunching of snow and the gentle tinkle of sleigh bells. Unhurried and mesmerising, the ride is a unique opportunity to experience the life of the indigenous Sami people and witness their traditions such as ice fishing and camping out on the tundra. Sit back and indulge in the beautiful but simple treasures of this seasonal treat.
G
Premiere, Documentary
(Classification)
Sounds good but I’ve been busy cooking.
Watching the rest of it now, very cosy.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
Once these pies are completed I’ll be relaxing with The Mind Robber (cosy Troughton Who story with Jamie & Zoe) on DVD on the big new telly in the living room.
Not seen that one but from the synopsis it sounds quite interesting.
It was one of the more surrealistic ones.
Also from the synopsis it appears there is a character called The Master who is not, you know, The Master.
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:Not seen that one but from the synopsis it sounds quite interesting.
It was one of the more surrealistic ones.
Also from the synopsis it appears there is a character called The Master who is not, you know, The Master.
Yes.
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:Not seen that one but from the synopsis it sounds quite interesting.
It was one of the more surrealistic ones.
Also from the synopsis it appears there is a character called The Master who is not, you know, The Master.
I keep meaning to check out the new animated recreations of missing eps.
going for some christmas salad earlier
mozzies, going to get the flyspray
I was unaware, until just now, that Shada had been completed using animation last year, with voice work by the original cast (Baker, Ward, !
So that’s one I’ll have to see.
The script for Shada was written by Douglas Adams, but the filming of the serial was never completed due to a strike. Adams later worked the plot into his Dirk Gently novel.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
Once these pies are completed I’ll be relaxing with The Mind Robber (cosy Troughton Who story with Jamie & Zoe) on DVD on the big new telly in the living room.
Not seen that one but from the synopsis it sounds quite interesting.
It was one of the more surrealistic ones.
Some of the stories toward the end of Tom Baker’s portrayal were quite surrealistic.
dv said:
I was unaware, until just now, that Shada had been completed using animation last year, with voice work by the original cast (Baker, Ward, !
So that’s one I’ll have to see.The script for Shada was written by Douglas Adams, but the filming of the serial was never completed due to a strike. Adams later worked the plot into his Dirk Gently novel.
The script was used in a radio adaptation of the show, using what original audio already existed and with Baker and Ward completing their roles for that adaptation.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
PermeateFree said:Would have thought you would be watching this:
SBS
All Aboard The Sleigh Ride
Monday 24th December at 8:30 pm (135 minutes)
A magical journey like no other, an amazing two hour trip through breathtaking snow-white scenery, filmed from the perspective of a traditional reindeer driven sleigh, travelling through the forests and across the frozen lakes of Lapland. Without music or narration, the only sound is the crunching of snow and the gentle tinkle of sleigh bells. Unhurried and mesmerising, the ride is a unique opportunity to experience the life of the indigenous Sami people and witness their traditions such as ice fishing and camping out on the tundra. Sit back and indulge in the beautiful but simple treasures of this seasonal treat.
G
Premiere, Documentary
(Classification)
Sounds good but I’ve been busy cooking.
Watching the rest of it now, very cosy.
Ended appropriately with an aurora display.
dv said:
I was unaware, until just now, that Shada had been completed using animation last year, with voice work by the original cast (Baker, Ward, !
So that’s one I’ll have to see.The script for Shada was written by Douglas Adams, but the filming of the serial was never completed due to a strike. Adams later worked the plot into his Dirk Gently novel.
Tom Baker is reportedly turning his & Ian Marter’s movie idea into a novel.
Now about to enjoy a cup of coffee and glass of port with some of buffy’s excellent shortbread.
Bubblecar said:
Now about to enjoy a cup of coffee and glass of port with some of buffy’s excellent shortbread.
Janina gave me some boxed shortbread(Aus made.) and a large box of Twinings English Breakfast.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Now about to enjoy a cup of coffee and glass of port with some of buffy’s excellent shortbread.Janina gave me some boxed shortbread(Aus made.) and a large box of Twinings English Breakfast.
:)
What did you give her?
burp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ_MGWio-vc
I thought I’d better post it or witty would be unhappy.
sibeen said:
burp
Strong garlic.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Now about to enjoy a cup of coffee and glass of port with some of buffy’s excellent shortbread.Janina gave me some boxed shortbread(Aus made.) and a large box of Twinings English Breakfast.
:)
What did you give her?
Some Russian wodka premixes.
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
burp
Strong garlic.
We were supposed to have a quiet night at home before venturing out on the morrow. Ended up down the road at friends, way too much food/beer/wine etc. burp
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:Janina gave me some boxed shortbread(Aus made.) and a large box of Twinings English Breakfast.
:)
What did you give her?
Some Russian wodka premixes.
:)
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
burp
Strong garlic.
We were supposed to have a quiet night at home before venturing out on the morrow. Ended up down the road at friends, way too much food/beer/wine etc. burp
Jolly good.
OK I’d better shift operations to the living room. I’ll peep in here later to see if any mice or what-have-you are stirring.
sibeen said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ_MGWio-vcI thought I’d better post it or witty would be unhappy.
Dora Dale’s reminiscences of the Bowie/Crosby verion of the song. From 23 min 45 sec into the recording:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CBvuIuL8no
Dinner report: Woodie’s take on Carbonara. Different to any Carbonara I’ve ever tasted, by nonetheless absolutely completely and utterly scrumptious. Total thumbs up! The “Chef” complained that there were too many peas. His problem. Not mine…
This beautiful meal was washed down with a bottle of Bremerton, followed by a bottle of Leogate. Both excellent. A bottle of Club port is being opened so the sushi rolls can be made and refrigerated before tomorrows festival. Oh, I see it’s today’s festival.
Michael V said:
Dinner report: Woodie’s take on Carbonara. Different to any Carbonara I’ve ever tasted, by nonetheless absolutely completely and utterly scrumptious. Total thumbs up! The “Chef” complained that there were too many peas. His problem. Not mine…This beautiful meal was washed down with a bottle of Bremerton, followed by a bottle of Leogate. Both excellent. A bottle of Club port is being opened so the sushi rolls can be made and refrigerated before tomorrows festival. Oh, I see it’s today’s festival.
Sounds muddy barvellous!
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
Dinner report: Woodie’s take on Carbonara. Different to any Carbonara I’ve ever tasted, by nonetheless absolutely completely and utterly scrumptious. Total thumbs up! The “Chef” complained that there were too many peas. His problem. Not mine…This beautiful meal was washed down with a bottle of Bremerton, followed by a bottle of Leogate. Both excellent. A bottle of Club port is being opened so the sushi rolls can be made and refrigerated before tomorrows festival. Oh, I see it’s today’s festival.
Sounds muddy barvellous!
It is.
:)
Lost my brother this morning. Damn.
(*attempting to do some sort of Christmas nonetheless.)
Many hugs, SM.
sarahs mum said:
Lost my brother this morning. Damn.(*attempting to do some sort of Christmas nonetheless.)
umm…he died?
sarahs mum said:
Lost my brother this morning. Damn.(*attempting to do some sort of Christmas nonetheless.)
Sad. Hugs.
Oh sm…
sarahs mum said:
Lost my brother this morning. Damn.(*attempting to do some sort of Christmas nonetheless.)
Condolences SM, that’s gotta be tough.
sarahs mum said:
Lost my brother this morning. Damn.(*attempting to do some sort of Christmas nonetheless.)
That’s sad SM.
sarahs mum said:
Lost my brother this morning. Damn.(*attempting to do some sort of Christmas nonetheless.)
geez Ros, not a nice way to start chrissie.
:-(
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
Lost my brother this morning. Damn.(*attempting to do some sort of Christmas nonetheless.)
Condolences SM, that’s gotta be tough.
Had a couple of deaths in my family in recent months. It knocks you about. Look after yourself, SM.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
Lost my brother this morning. Damn.(*attempting to do some sort of Christmas nonetheless.)
That’s sad SM.
We all feel for you sm.
sarahs mum said:
Lost my brother this morning. Damn.(*attempting to do some sort of Christmas nonetheless.)
Ohhhhh. Hugs.
sarahs mum said:
Lost my brother this morning. Damn.(*attempting to do some sort of Christmas nonetheless.)
My sympathies Ros.
sarahs mum said:
Lost my brother this morning. Damn.(*attempting to do some sort of Christmas nonetheless.)
Sorry to hear that SM. Thoughts are with you and your extended family.
sarahs mum said:
Lost my brother this morning. Damn.(*attempting to do some sort of Christmas nonetheless.)
Very sorry to hear that. (Squeeze hug)
thanks for all the hugs and squeezes. I survived the day. It was actually quite pleasant. It was a drinking wine in the sun sort of day. nice company.
Just having another little cry now there is some space for that again.
Brother John On bodhran in Plockton.
https://www.facebook.com/mackey.alison/videos/vb.767228241/10152877885358242/?type=2&video_source=user_video_tab
sarahs mum said:
thanks for all the hugs and squeezes. I survived the day. It was actually quite pleasant. It was a drinking wine in the sun sort of day. nice company.Just having another little cry now there is some space for that again.
Brother John On bodhran in Plockton.
https://www.facebook.com/mackey.alison/videos/vb.767228241/10152877885358242/?type=2&video_source=user_video_tab
He looks like a good man.
sarahs mum said:
thanks for all the hugs and squeezes. I survived the day. It was actually quite pleasant. It was a drinking wine in the sun sort of day. nice company.Just having another little cry now there is some space for that again. I’ll be in the Christmas chatting soon.
Brother John On bodhran in Plockton.
https://www.facebook.com/mackey.alison/videos/vb.767228241/10152877885358242/?type=2&video_source=user_video_tab
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
thanks for all the hugs and squeezes. I survived the day. It was actually quite pleasant. It was a drinking wine in the sun sort of day. nice company.Just having another little cry now there is some space for that again.
Brother John On bodhran in Plockton.
https://www.facebook.com/mackey.alison/videos/vb.767228241/10152877885358242/?type=2&video_source=user_video_tab
He looks like a good man.
He was a rat bag and an arsehole and was much much too too smart fpr all of us. He was clever and funny. But also cutting. He was one of the most damned useful men around. He did grow up labouring for the master stonemason grandfather and was at one stage was a licensed plumber and a licensed powder monkey. But he could mimic most other trades. He fully restored a Rolls from one end to the other when someone decided to pay him to do that. He once was the bushman of the year prize at Tamworth while he was living the life of John McKnowall in the Bushbangers. For the last 30 years he made bodhrans. And he played very well. He seemed very settled in kyogle.
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
thanks for all the hugs and squeezes. I survived the day. It was actually quite pleasant. It was a drinking wine in the sun sort of day. nice company.Just having another little cry now there is some space for that again.
Brother John On bodhran in Plockton.
https://www.facebook.com/mackey.alison/videos/vb.767228241/10152877885358242/?type=2&video_source=user_video_tab
He looks like a good man.
He was a rat bag and an arsehole and was much much too too smart fpr all of us. He was clever and funny. But also cutting. He was one of the most damned useful men around. He did grow up labouring for the master stonemason grandfather and was at one stage was a licensed plumber and a licensed powder monkey. But he could mimic most other trades. He fully restored a Rolls from one end to the other when someone decided to pay him to do that. He once was the bushman of the year prize at Tamworth while he was living the life of John McKnowall in the Bushbangers. For the last 30 years he made bodhrans. And he played very well. He seemed very settled in kyogle.
:)
Sounds like he enjoyed his life, all told.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:He looks like a good man.
He was a rat bag and an arsehole and was much much too too smart fpr all of us. He was clever and funny. But also cutting. He was one of the most damned useful men around. He did grow up labouring for the master stonemason grandfather and was at one stage was a licensed plumber and a licensed powder monkey. But he could mimic most other trades. He fully restored a Rolls from one end to the other when someone decided to pay him to do that. He once was the bushman of the year prize at Tamworth while he was living the life of John McKnowall in the Bushbangers. For the last 30 years he made bodhrans. And he played very well. He seemed very settled in kyogle.
:)
Sounds like he enjoyed his life, all told.
http://www.mcknowall.com/
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:He was a rat bag and an arsehole and was much much too too smart fpr all of us. He was clever and funny. But also cutting. He was one of the most damned useful men around. He did grow up labouring for the master stonemason grandfather and was at one stage was a licensed plumber and a licensed powder monkey. But he could mimic most other trades. He fully restored a Rolls from one end to the other when someone decided to pay him to do that. He once was the bushman of the year prize at Tamworth while he was living the life of John McKnowall in the Bushbangers. For the last 30 years he made bodhrans. And he played very well. He seemed very settled in kyogle.
:)
Sounds like he enjoyed his life, all told.
http://www.mcknowall.com/
http://www.mcknowall.com/bodhrans.html
He sold he last bodhran a few weeks ago. Alison wanted to buy one but he said she was too late. Some years ago he gave me the one he bought to play on before he started making. It’s accompanied by one of his tippers. And it’s in a pretty wooden flight case.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said::)
Sounds like he enjoyed his life, all told.
http://www.mcknowall.com/
http://www.mcknowall.com/bodhrans.html
He sold he last bodhran a few weeks ago. Alison wanted to buy one but he said she was too late. Some years ago he gave me the one he bought to play on before he started making. It’s accompanied by one of his tippers. And it’s in a pretty wooden flight case.
So will his son be staying on at his Dad’s place?
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:http://www.mcknowall.com/
http://www.mcknowall.com/bodhrans.html
He sold he last bodhran a few weeks ago. Alison wanted to buy one but he said she was too late. Some years ago he gave me the one he bought to play on before he started making. It’s accompanied by one of his tippers. And it’s in a pretty wooden flight case.
So will his son be staying on at his Dad’s place?
for the time being. I think the house is to be sold and the proceeds divvied between that son and his sister. There is smaller amount set aside for the two children of his first marriage but they haven’t been in his life for decades. I think one of them will probably refuse any money. Son has a block of land out of town. He is thinking of selling that and doing something else. But he hasn’t decided what. We did talk about it some. Doing something else but not knowing what that was.
If they are smart kids they will paint it and put some new carpet in.I’m browsing online Boxing Day sales, particularly phones and bed sheets.
We went to the park this afternoon. There was a family there having a bbq. The girl was very chatty and said that her brother got a pack of Gatorade for Christmas because their mum ran out of time to get him a present.
Divine Angel said:
I’m browsing online Boxing Day sales, particularly phones and bed sheets.We went to the park this afternoon. There was a family there having a bbq. The girl was very chatty and said that her brother got a pack of Gatorade for Christmas because their mum ran out of time to get him a present.
Sorry to hear Mr Mutant didn’t like his present.
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:
I’m browsing online Boxing Day sales, particularly phones and bed sheets.We went to the park this afternoon. There was a family there having a bbq. The girl was very chatty and said that her brother got a pack of Gatorade for Christmas because their mum ran out of time to get him a present.
Sorry to hear Mr Mutant didn’t like his present.
He decided to give it a go when he saw how upset I was. He’s been wearing it all afternoon.
Divine Angel said:
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:
I’m browsing online Boxing Day sales, particularly phones and bed sheets.We went to the park this afternoon. There was a family there having a bbq. The girl was very chatty and said that her brother got a pack of Gatorade for Christmas because their mum ran out of time to get him a present.
Sorry to hear Mr Mutant didn’t like his present.
He decided to give it a go when he saw how upset I was. He’s been wearing it all afternoon.
:)
And mum behaves herself at lunch, so that was nice too. My sister brought along her doggo, Leti. Leti has lymphoma and probably only has a couple weeks left. She’s skin and bone but ravenously hungry all the time.
Divine Angel said:
I’m browsing online Boxing Day sales, particularly phones and bed sheets.We went to the park this afternoon. There was a family there having a bbq. The girl was very chatty and said that her brother got a pack of Gatorade for Christmas because their mum ran out of time to get him a present.
I’ve been living on gatorade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA8nfFze7Bs
:(
Divine Angel said:
And mum behaves herself at lunch, so that was nice too. My sister brought along her doggo, Leti. Leti has lymphoma and probably only has a couple weeks left. She’s skin and bone but ravenously hungry all the time.
That’s unusual. You normally think of very ill dogs being off their food.
I lived on Gatorade at the end of my pregnancy with Mini Me. Even took a couple bottles to the hospital with me lol.
Tomorrow is 4 years since she was hospitalised for jaundice treatment. I was never worried about that but I had a meltdown over not being able to breastfeed.
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:
I’m browsing online Boxing Day sales, particularly phones and bed sheets.We went to the park this afternoon. There was a family there having a bbq. The girl was very chatty and said that her brother got a pack of Gatorade for Christmas because their mum ran out of time to get him a present.
I’ve been living on gatorade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA8nfFze7Bs
:(
:)
Divine Angel said:
I lived on Gatorade at the end of my pregnancy with Mini Me. Even took a couple bottles to the hospital with me lol.Tomorrow is 4 years since she was hospitalised for jaundice treatment. I was never worried about that but I had a meltdown over not being able to breastfeed.
I understand that.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:
I’m browsing online Boxing Day sales, particularly phones and bed sheets.We went to the park this afternoon. There was a family there having a bbq. The girl was very chatty and said that her brother got a pack of Gatorade for Christmas because their mum ran out of time to get him a present.
I’ve been living on gatorade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA8nfFze7Bs
:(
:)
Some very nice guitar runs in that. And I like what the gitar does with the words ‘ basketball town.’
I think he likes his chair
sarahs mum said:
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I think he likes his chair
There’s definite pride of ownership in that first snap :)
Sorry to hear about your brilliant/rat bag brother sm :(
Ian said:
Sorry to hear about your brilliant/rat bag brother sm :(
Ta.
Yeah.
:(
I like the third pic 😊
We got Mini Me a foam chair for her second Christmas. We use it as a time out chair.
Divine Angel said:
I like the third pic 😊We got Mini Me a foam chair for her second Christmas. We use it as a time out chair.
There are some crappier photos. But I decided to post it as a series.
This is indoor/outdoor heavy duty stuff. I bought it from bean bags r us dot com and had it delivered to Sarah. She and Tim got the rest of it together.
out farm, walked up to me for a hello
transition said:
out farm, walked up to me for a hello
Doesn’t look that old.
Perhaps it hasn’t learned to fear yet.
sarahs mum said:
transition said:
out farm, walked up to me for a hello
Doesn’t look that old.
Perhaps it hasn’t learned to fear yet.
young, playful, inquisitive, as couple siblings together
Ian said:
Sorry to hear about your brilliant/rat bag brother sm :(
Oh shit. Sorry sm. :(
Arts said:
Ian said:
Sorry to hear about your brilliant/rat bag brother sm :(Oh shit. Sorry sm. :(
I know. :(
Good morning Holidayers. A lovely 1 degrees at the moment and overcast. Going for a 32 today and a 37 tomorrow. But the overnight lows are all under 20. It means the house can be cooled overnight.
kryten said:
Good morning Holidayers. A lovely 1 degrees at the moment and overcast. Going for a 32 today and a 37 tomorrow. But the overnight lows are all under 20. It means the house can be cooled overnight.
It is 27.3°C right now. I’m enjoying the garden at the best time of day.
kryten said:
Good morning Holidayers. A lovely 1 degrees at the moment and overcast. Going for a 32 today and a 37 tomorrow. But the overnight lows are all under 20. It means the house can be cooled overnight.
Whoops, that wasn’t 1, that should have been 11!
buffy said:
kryten said:Good morning Holidayers. A lovely 1 degrees at the moment and overcast. Going for a 32 today and a 37 tomorrow. But the overnight lows are all under 20. It means the house can be cooled overnight.
Whoops, that wasn’t 1, that should have been 11!
Now you have spoiled my vision of you enjoying a frost on the lawn. ;)
Mr buffy just returned from the shop with the newspapers and great big lump of chocolate stuff. The aircon has broken down, the landlord hasn’t fixed it, and on the hot day the dark chocolate peppermint bars melted together. I don’t mind cutting bits off to eat!
I need to go out and tie down the netting on the raspberries. I don’t really mind the butterflies in there, it’s like a butterfly house, but it won’t be long until the blackbirds discover the berries are almost to the getting red stage.
https://alistaircoombs.com/2018/12/12/taurid-tracker/
interesting blog. cave paintings and astronomy.
buffy said:
Mr buffy just returned from the shop with the newspapers and great big lump of chocolate stuff. The aircon has broken down, the landlord hasn’t fixed it, and on the hot day the dark chocolate peppermint bars melted together. I don’t mind cutting bits off to eat!
I need to go out and tie down the netting on the raspberries. I don’t really mind the butterflies in there, it’s like a butterfly house, but it won’t be long until the blackbirds discover the berries are almost to the getting red stage.
I had hoped there would be a herb in here that I could use to repel blackbirds
Sadly, there isn’t.
ChrispenEvan said:
https://alistaircoombs.com/2018/12/12/taurid-tracker/interesting blog. cave paintings and astronomy.
ta.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:Mr buffy just returned from the shop with the newspapers and great big lump of chocolate stuff. The aircon has broken down, the landlord hasn’t fixed it, and on the hot day the dark chocolate peppermint bars melted together. I don’t mind cutting bits off to eat!
I need to go out and tie down the netting on the raspberries. I don’t really mind the butterflies in there, it’s like a butterfly house, but it won’t be long until the blackbirds discover the berries are almost to the getting red stage.
I had hoped there would be a herb in here that I could use to repel blackbirds
Sadly, there isn’t.
I recommend coriander seeds. It’s packing them into the shotgun shells that tiakes a bit of time and practice.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:Mr buffy just returned from the shop with the newspapers and great big lump of chocolate stuff. The aircon has broken down, the landlord hasn’t fixed it, and on the hot day the dark chocolate peppermint bars melted together. I don’t mind cutting bits off to eat!
I need to go out and tie down the netting on the raspberries. I don’t really mind the butterflies in there, it’s like a butterfly house, but it won’t be long until the blackbirds discover the berries are almost to the getting red stage.
I had hoped there would be a herb in here that I could use to repel blackbirds
Sadly, there isn’t.
I recommend coriander seeds. It’s packing them into the shotgun shells that tiakes a bit of time and practice.
or peppercorns perhaps?
I’m a firm believer in red or black fruit stuck on a rat trap sitting on the ground.
Morning punters and correctors.
It’s a lovely 19 degrees at the Redoubt with just a zephyr of an easterly breeze.
Today I’ll be right into doing three fifths of five eights of bugger all.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters and correctors.
It’s a lovely 19 degrees at the Redoubt with just a zephyr of an easterly breeze.
Today I’ll be right into doing three fifths of five eights of bugger all.
Three fifths… Is that like three fingers in a glass?
Spot the different coloured apples.
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters and correctors.
It’s a lovely 19 degrees at the Redoubt with just a zephyr of an easterly breeze.
Today I’ll be right into doing three fifths of five eights of bugger all.
Three fifths… Is that like three fingers in a glass?
Havent got any booze, the closest I went to a drink yesterday was some trifle.
If I go into the town later on I might pick up a pack of vodka soda and lemon.
Where’s Wally?
Cymbopogon ambiguus
‘Efforts to battle a Christmas Day bushfire which forced the evacuation of 150 people in southern Tasmania were halted by a drone flying in the airspace used by waterbombing aircraft.’ – ABC News
Idiot. Probably owns a jet-ski, as well. Got himself a drone because pointing lasers at aircraft was too risky, i’d wager.
captain_spalding said:
‘Efforts to battle a Christmas Day bushfire which forced the evacuation of 150 people in southern Tasmania were halted by a drone flying in the airspace used by waterbombing aircraft.’ – ABC NewsIdiot. Probably owns a jet-ski, as well. Got himself a drone because pointing lasers at aircraft was too risky, i’d wager.
I know a bloke who wrote a song, Bring back the Death Penalty.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
‘Efforts to battle a Christmas Day bushfire which forced the evacuation of 150 people in southern Tasmania were halted by a drone flying in the airspace used by waterbombing aircraft.’ – ABC NewsIdiot. Probably owns a jet-ski, as well. Got himself a drone because pointing lasers at aircraft was too risky, i’d wager.
I know a bloke who wrote a song, Bring back the Death Penalty.
Best punishment would be that, if brought before the court and found guilty, they be humiliated for being the morons that they are.
Not the death penalty, but the stocks :

And pelted with rotten fruit.
captain_spalding said:
‘Efforts to battle a Christmas Day bushfire which forced the evacuation of 150 people in southern Tasmania were halted by a drone flying in the airspace used by waterbombing aircraft.’ – ABC NewsIdiot. Probably owns a jet-ski, as well. Got himself a drone because pointing lasers at aircraft was too risky, i’d wager.
I watched it happening all day yesterday. The choppers were refuelling on the oval down the road in Kettering. No one in our gathering had a drone.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
‘Efforts to battle a Christmas Day bushfire which forced the evacuation of 150 people in southern Tasmania were halted by a drone flying in the airspace used by waterbombing aircraft.’ – ABC NewsIdiot. Probably owns a jet-ski, as well. Got himself a drone because pointing lasers at aircraft was too risky, i’d wager.
I know a bloke who wrote a song, Bring back the Death Penalty.
Best punishment would be that, if brought before the court and found guilty, they be humiliated for being the morons that they are.
Not the death penalty, but the stocks :
And pelted with rotten fruit.
shops just don’t sell rotten fruit these days.
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:
‘Efforts to battle a Christmas Day bushfire which forced the evacuation of 150 people in southern Tasmania were halted by a drone flying in the airspace used by waterbombing aircraft.’ – ABC NewsIdiot. Probably owns a jet-ski, as well. Got himself a drone because pointing lasers at aircraft was too risky, i’d wager.
I watched it happening all day yesterday. The choppers were refuelling on the oval down the road in Kettering. No one in our gathering had a drone.
No, the wouldn’t be there. people who do such things find an isolated spot. They don’t like to be told ‘dont’ by peope who actually have a brain in their heads.
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:I know a bloke who wrote a song, Bring back the Death Penalty.
Best punishment would be that, if brought before the court and found guilty, they be humiliated for being the morons that they are.
Not the death penalty, but the stocks :
And pelted with rotten fruit.
shops just don’t sell rotten fruit these days.
They would if there was a reason for people to buy it.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
‘Efforts to battle a Christmas Day bushfire which forced the evacuation of 150 people in southern Tasmania were halted by a drone flying in the airspace used by waterbombing aircraft.’ – ABC NewsIdiot. Probably owns a jet-ski, as well. Got himself a drone because pointing lasers at aircraft was too risky, i’d wager.
I know a bloke who wrote a song, Bring back the Death Penalty.
Best punishment would be that, if brought before the court and found guilty, they be humiliated for being the morons that they are.
Not the death penalty, but the stocks :
And pelted with rotten fruit.
He actually published the song but nobody bought it.
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:Best punishment would be that, if brought before the court and found guilty, they be humiliated for being the morons that they are.
Not the death penalty, but the stocks :
And pelted with rotten fruit.
shops just don’t sell rotten fruit these days.
They would if there was a reason for people to buy it.
People can always find rotten fruit.
Getting too warm outside for me now. But according to the thermometer it’s only 22. But out in the sun I’m sure it’s hotter. It felt like it. I have properly netted the raspberries now. I may have captured a couple of butterflies, but most of them are over the other side of the gardening partaking of Buddleia goodness.
buffy said:
Getting too warm outside for me now. But according to the thermometer it’s only 22. But out in the sun I’m sure it’s hotter. It felt like it. I have properly netted the raspberries now. I may have captured a couple of butterflies, but most of them are over the other side of the gardening partaking of Buddleia goodness.
Outside right now it is
37.0°C
Morning. Love today. It’s pack the Christmas decorations away, mr arts watches the test and later we are all going to the scorchers game because we are members now.
Also we are eating ham for the next week. FIL won a leg of ham and left it here… can I slice it up and freeze it?
Arts said:
Morning. Love today. It’s pack the Christmas decorations away, mr arts watches the test and later we are all going to the scorchers game because we are members now.Also we are eating ham for the next week. FIL won a leg of ham and left it here… can I slice it up and freeze it?
Sounds good. I usually pack up the tree and decorations on new year’s day.
Arts said:
Morning. Love today. It’s pack the Christmas decorations away, mr arts watches the test and later we are all going to the scorchers game because we are members now.Also we are eating ham for the next week. FIL won a leg of ham and left it here… can I slice it up and freeze it?
Without googling I would say yes. But because of the salt content it won’t last as long in the freezer as other stuff. Perhaps putting a family’s worth of ham steaks in the freezer ( x 2?) and then just using the ham for exciting left overs is the best go.
I reckon these butterflies might be Common Browns. I’m not good at butterflies. But they certainly like my Buddleia bushes – if you look carefully there are three in that picture. And the nice cool Dichondra on the ground. And the overabundant lemon balm. And so do the bees.
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I want to make semolina gnocchi today. So I’d better go and make the gooey bit so it can set for me. I haven’t made it before. We can have it for tea tonight, with cold smoked chicken. And whatever else I find. Probably a bit of salad. I’m nearly out of tomatoes. Planning on going to Hamilton tomorrow for some fresh supplies.
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
Morning. Love today. It’s pack the Christmas decorations away, mr arts watches the test and later we are all going to the scorchers game because we are members now.Also we are eating ham for the next week. FIL won a leg of ham and left it here… can I slice it up and freeze it?
Without googling I would say yes. But because of the salt content it won’t last as long in the freezer as other stuff. Perhaps putting a family’s worth of ham steaks in the freezer ( x 2?) and then just using the ham for exciting left overs is the best go.
I might just package some up and give it to all the street neighbours.
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
Morning. Love today. It’s pack the Christmas decorations away, mr arts watches the test and later we are all going to the scorchers game because we are members now.Also we are eating ham for the next week. FIL won a leg of ham and left it here… can I slice it up and freeze it?
Without googling I would say yes. But because of the salt content it won’t last as long in the freezer as other stuff. Perhaps putting a family’s worth of ham steaks in the freezer ( x 2?) and then just using the ham for exciting left overs is the best go.
With googling – yes – uncooked ham for 6 months, cooked ham for 2 months.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
Morning. Love today. It’s pack the Christmas decorations away, mr arts watches the test and later we are all going to the scorchers game because we are members now.Also we are eating ham for the next week. FIL won a leg of ham and left it here… can I slice it up and freeze it?
Without googling I would say yes. But because of the salt content it won’t last as long in the freezer as other stuff. Perhaps putting a family’s worth of ham steaks in the freezer ( x 2?) and then just using the ham for exciting left overs is the best go.
With googling – yes – uncooked ham for 6 months, cooked ham for 2 months.
Hmm. I’m still going to do the neighbour thing. And then freeze the rest. Thanks sm and p_p
Arts said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:Without googling I would say yes. But because of the salt content it won’t last as long in the freezer as other stuff. Perhaps putting a family’s worth of ham steaks in the freezer ( x 2?) and then just using the ham for exciting left overs is the best go.
With googling – yes – uncooked ham for 6 months, cooked ham for 2 months.
Hmm. I’m still going to do the neighbour thing. And then freeze the rest. Thanks sm and p_p
Just how big is this ham then. Is it a hippo or mammoth leg or something?
buffy said:
I reckon these butterflies might be Common Browns. I’m not good at butterflies. But they certainly like my Buddleia bushes – if you look carefully there are three in that picture. And the nice cool Dichondra on the ground. And the overabundant lemon balm. And so do the bees.
Yes. Common Brown.
party_pants said:
Arts said:
party_pants said:With googling – yes – uncooked ham for 6 months, cooked ham for 2 months.
Hmm. I’m still going to do the neighbour thing. And then freeze the rest. Thanks sm and p_p
Just how big is this ham then. Is it a hippo or mammoth leg or something?
It looks like that chunk of meat they put on the side of the flintstones car. Can barely fit it in the fridge.
Arts said:
Morning. Love today. It’s pack the Christmas decorations away, mr arts watches the test and later we are all going to the scorchers game because we are members now.Also we are eating ham for the next week. FIL won a leg of ham and left it here… can I slice it up and freeze it?
I freeze ham in large lumps, thaw then slice it. It freezes well.
Arts said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:Without googling I would say yes. But because of the salt content it won’t last as long in the freezer as other stuff. Perhaps putting a family’s worth of ham steaks in the freezer ( x 2?) and then just using the ham for exciting left overs is the best go.
With googling – yes – uncooked ham for 6 months, cooked ham for 2 months.
Hmm. I’m still going to do the neighbour thing. And then freeze the rest. Thanks sm and p_p
I was thinking the ham steaks because bigger pieces freeze better than smaller pieces.
I was given a 10 kilo ham by my farmers market boss when it didn’t get picked up for an order. And fsm was given a 5 kilo ham by his boss. Ham for you and you and you and you…..ham for everybody!
ruby said:
I was given a 10 kilo ham by my farmers market boss when it didn’t get picked up for an order. And fsm was given a 5 kilo ham by his boss. Ham for you and you and you and you…..ham for everybody!
10kg ham, that must have been a jumbo pig.
Bubblecar said:
ruby said:
I was given a 10 kilo ham by my farmers market boss when it didn’t get picked up for an order. And fsm was given a 5 kilo ham by his boss. Ham for you and you and you and you…..ham for everybody!
10kg ham, that must have been a jumbo pig.
I reckon.
And it’s funny you say jumbo pig. Because 10 kilos is the weight I have lost in the last couple of months. It was terrific picking up the 10 kilo ham, and realising that this was the weight I has been carting around all the time, and now don’t have to. Though I may have put some of it back on yesterday at the family festivus feast.
ruby said:
I was given a 10 kilo ham by my farmers market boss when it didn’t get picked up for an order. And fsm was given a 5 kilo ham by his boss. Ham for you and you and you and you…..ham for everybody!
Ooooh! You’be able to ham it up then.
ruby said:
Bubblecar said:
ruby said:
I was given a 10 kilo ham by my farmers market boss when it didn’t get picked up for an order. And fsm was given a 5 kilo ham by his boss. Ham for you and you and you and you…..ham for everybody!
10kg ham, that must have been a jumbo pig.
I reckon.
And it’s funny you say jumbo pig. Because 10 kilos is the weight I have lost in the last couple of months. It was terrific picking up the 10 kilo ham, and realising that this was the weight I has been carting around all the time, and now don’t have to. Though I may have put some of it back on yesterday at the family festivus feast.
That’s a coincidence because I lost 10kg recently too. And have doubtless put some back on since last week :/
But there’s not much feasting left to do before I’m back on the dieting.
ruby said:
Bubblecar said:
ruby said:
I was given a 10 kilo ham by my farmers market boss when it didn’t get picked up for an order. And fsm was given a 5 kilo ham by his boss. Ham for you and you and you and you…..ham for everybody!
10kg ham, that must have been a jumbo pig.
I reckon.
And it’s funny you say jumbo pig. Because 10 kilos is the weight I have lost in the last couple of months. It was terrific picking up the 10 kilo ham, and realising that this was the weight I has been carting around all the time, and now don’t have to. Though I may have put some of it back on yesterday at the family festivus feast.
Well done. I think I have to lose 30 kg now.
:(
Bubblecar said:
ruby said:
Bubblecar said:10kg ham, that must have been a jumbo pig.
I reckon.
And it’s funny you say jumbo pig. Because 10 kilos is the weight I have lost in the last couple of months. It was terrific picking up the 10 kilo ham, and realising that this was the weight I has been carting around all the time, and now don’t have to. Though I may have put some of it back on yesterday at the family festivus feast.
That’s a coincidence because I lost 10kg recently too. And have doubtless put some back on since last week :/
But there’s not much feasting left to do before I’m back on the dieting.
High fives Bubblecar!
I polished off the left over rum balls, now back to my diet. Which is not really a diet. Just normal eating.
Bubblecar said:
ruby said:
Bubblecar said:10kg ham, that must have been a jumbo pig.
I reckon.
And it’s funny you say jumbo pig. Because 10 kilos is the weight I have lost in the last couple of months. It was terrific picking up the 10 kilo ham, and realising that this was the weight I has been carting around all the time, and now don’t have to. Though I may have put some of it back on yesterday at the family festivus feast.
That’s a coincidence because I lost 10kg recently too. And have doubtless put some back on since last week :/
But there’s not much feasting left to do before I’m back on the dieting.
Well done to you, too.
ruby said:
Bubblecar said:
ruby said:I reckon.
And it’s funny you say jumbo pig. Because 10 kilos is the weight I have lost in the last couple of months. It was terrific picking up the 10 kilo ham, and realising that this was the weight I has been carting around all the time, and now don’t have to. Though I may have put some of it back on yesterday at the family festivus feast.
That’s a coincidence because I lost 10kg recently too. And have doubtless put some back on since last week :/
But there’s not much feasting left to do before I’m back on the dieting.
High fives Bubblecar!
I polished off the left over rum balls, now back to my diet. Which is not really a diet. Just normal eating.
:)
Yes, my diet is mainly just sensible portion sizes and restricted fat & carbs. With some semi-fasting days.
But there’s still quite a lot of festive wine to clear at the moment.
Bubblecar said:
ruby said:
Bubblecar said:That’s a coincidence because I lost 10kg recently too. And have doubtless put some back on since last week :/
But there’s not much feasting left to do before I’m back on the dieting.
High fives Bubblecar!
I polished off the left over rum balls, now back to my diet. Which is not really a diet. Just normal eating.
:)
Yes, my diet is mainly just sensible portion sizes and restricted fat & carbs. With some semi-fasting days.
But there’s still quite a lot of festive wine to clear at the moment.
You’ll want something to eat with that. How about some MCG pitch puddin?
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
party_pants said:With googling – yes – uncooked ham for 6 months, cooked ham for 2 months.
Hmm. I’m still going to do the neighbour thing. And then freeze the rest. Thanks sm and p_p
I was thinking the ham steaks because bigger pieces freeze better than smaller pieces.
I just finished slicing it. Some of it I diced for a cabonara and put in the freezer. Some of it is sliced and packaged up for neighbours. I did four ham steaks in the freezer, the kids are having eggs and ham on toast for breakfast and the bone went to the dog. The bone is about half the length of the dog and it’s very funny to watch her chew on it. And so ends the ham saga
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:Hmm. I’m still going to do the neighbour thing. And then freeze the rest. Thanks sm and p_p
I was thinking the ham steaks because bigger pieces freeze better than smaller pieces.
I just finished slicing it. Some of it I diced for a cabonara and put in the freezer. Some of it is sliced and packaged up for neighbours. I did four ham steaks in the freezer, the kids are having eggs and ham on toast for breakfast and the bone went to the dog. The bone is about half the length of the dog and it’s very funny to watch her chew on it. And so ends the ham saga
No pea n ham soup then. Fair enough.
Just going to ‘ave a cardo for lunch. Smashed on rye toast with lemon juice and topped with marinated feta.
Ham bones and dogs = no.
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:I was thinking the ham steaks because bigger pieces freeze better than smaller pieces.
I just finished slicing it. Some of it I diced for a cabonara and put in the freezer. Some of it is sliced and packaged up for neighbours. I did four ham steaks in the freezer, the kids are having eggs and ham on toast for breakfast and the bone went to the dog. The bone is about half the length of the dog and it’s very funny to watch her chew on it. And so ends the ham saga
No pea n ham soup then. Fair enough.
That’s more your smoked hocks.
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:I was thinking the ham steaks because bigger pieces freeze better than smaller pieces.
I just finished slicing it. Some of it I diced for a cabonara and put in the freezer. Some of it is sliced and packaged up for neighbours. I did four ham steaks in the freezer, the kids are having eggs and ham on toast for breakfast and the bone went to the dog. The bone is about half the length of the dog and it’s very funny to watch her chew on it. And so ends the ham saga
No pea n ham soup then. Fair enough.
Bubblecar said:
Just going to ‘ave a cardo for lunch. Smashed on rye toast with lemon juice and topped with marinated feta.
Hipster
kii said:
Ham bones and dogs = no.
Why?
kii said:
Ham bones and dogs = no.
The internets don’t seem keen on them for dogs. Too brittle etc.
Why it isn’t a good idea
Giving dogs ham bones, whether cooked or raw, is something like planning an advance trip to the vet. Ham bones are brittle bones that break quicker than most others. If your dog accidentally swallows a piece or breaks the bone in his/her mouth, it can lead to an internal obstruction or injury that can prove to be fatal. Here are some of the health problems that can be caused by feeding your dog bones (ham or otherwise).
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:Hmm. I’m still going to do the neighbour thing. And then freeze the rest. Thanks sm and p_p
I was thinking the ham steaks because bigger pieces freeze better than smaller pieces.
I just finished slicing it. Some of it I diced for a cabonara and put in the freezer. Some of it is sliced and packaged up for neighbours. I did four ham steaks in the freezer, the kids are having eggs and ham on toast for breakfast and the bone went to the dog. The bone is about half the length of the dog and it’s very funny to watch her chew on it. And so ends the ham saga
Yeah that wasn’t a bad saga, started off slowly but finished strong with the dog and bone.
Saga might be too strong a word for it and incident doesn’t quite fit.
I’m thinking episode might fit the bill.
Yeah we’ll go with the Boxing Day ham episode.
Bubblecar said:
kii said:
Ham bones and dogs = no.
The internets don’t seem keen on them for dogs. Too brittle etc.
Why it isn’t a good idea
Giving dogs ham bones, whether cooked or raw, is something like planning an advance trip to the vet. Ham bones are brittle bones that break quicker than most others. If your dog accidentally swallows a piece or breaks the bone in his/her mouth, it can lead to an internal obstruction or injury that can prove to be fatal. Here are some of the health problems that can be caused by feeding your dog bones (ham or otherwise).
Yep, plus high salt content.
Bubblecar said:
kii said:
Ham bones and dogs = no.
The internets don’t seem keen on them for dogs. Too brittle etc.
Why it isn’t a good idea
Giving dogs ham bones, whether cooked or raw, is something like planning an advance trip to the vet. Ham bones are brittle bones that break quicker than most others. If your dog accidentally swallows a piece or breaks the bone in his/her mouth, it can lead to an internal obstruction or injury that can prove to be fatal. Here are some of the health problems that can be caused by feeding your dog bones (ham or otherwise).
Ah. It’s a bone thing. I seriously doubt she will be able to break through the bone. She is at the moment just trying to get the remanants off. I’ll keep an eye out and make sure it gets removed before bone crunching occurs.
Another child dead while in Border Patrol custody. This one was an 8 year old boy from Guatemala. He died in NM.
Arts said:
Bubblecar said:
kii said:
Ham bones and dogs = no.
The internets don’t seem keen on them for dogs. Too brittle etc.
Why it isn’t a good idea
Giving dogs ham bones, whether cooked or raw, is something like planning an advance trip to the vet. Ham bones are brittle bones that break quicker than most others. If your dog accidentally swallows a piece or breaks the bone in his/her mouth, it can lead to an internal obstruction or injury that can prove to be fatal. Here are some of the health problems that can be caused by feeding your dog bones (ham or otherwise).
Ah. It’s a bone thing. I seriously doubt she will be able to break through the bone. She is at the moment just trying to get the remanants off. I’ll keep an eye out and make sure it gets removed before bone crunching occurs.
High salt.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:I just finished slicing it. Some of it I diced for a cabonara and put in the freezer. Some of it is sliced and packaged up for neighbours. I did four ham steaks in the freezer, the kids are having eggs and ham on toast for breakfast and the bone went to the dog. The bone is about half the length of the dog and it’s very funny to watch her chew on it. And so ends the ham saga
No pea n ham soup then. Fair enough.
That’s more your smoked hocks.
Not in my Scottische family. Best pnm of the year for Dad.
kii said:
Arts said:
Bubblecar said:The internets don’t seem keen on them for dogs. Too brittle etc.
Why it isn’t a good idea
Giving dogs ham bones, whether cooked or raw, is something like planning an advance trip to the vet. Ham bones are brittle bones that break quicker than most others. If your dog accidentally swallows a piece or breaks the bone in his/her mouth, it can lead to an internal obstruction or injury that can prove to be fatal. Here are some of the health problems that can be caused by feeding your dog bones (ham or otherwise).
Ah. It’s a bone thing. I seriously doubt she will be able to break through the bone. She is at the moment just trying to get the remanants off. I’ll keep an eye out and make sure it gets removed before bone crunching occurs.
High salt.
Yeah. I’ll make sure there’s lots of water too.
kii said:
Another child dead while in Border Patrol custody. This one was an 8 year old boy from Guatemala. He died in NM.
;(
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:No pea n ham soup then. Fair enough.
That’s more your smoked hocks.
Not in my Scottische family. Best pnm of the year for Dad.
Ah.
I’m a fan of peanam and it can be frozen in containers.
I was still eating Mum’s thawed peanam some months after she died.
kii said:
Another child dead while in Border Patrol custody. This one was an 8 year old boy from Guatemala. He died in NM.
Trumpidiots….faaaark.
“Heaven has a gate and strict entry policies! So do some countries!”
I hate dumb religious fuckheads.
Bubblecar said:
Just going to ‘ave a cardo for lunch. Smashed on rye toast with lemon juice and topped with marinated feta.
I just made us avocado (instead of butter) and ham sammiches. Accompanied by celery sticks with cream cheese in the hollow bit.
I’m looking forward to the game today. I think the scorchers will struggle but we have pretty decent seats and a lot of shade.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Just going to ‘ave a cardo for lunch. Smashed on rye toast with lemon juice and topped with marinated feta.
I just made us avocado (instead of butter) and ham sammiches. Accompanied by celery sticks with cream cheese in the hollow bit.
My kids love celery with peanut butter. I prefer celery the way god intended.
Oh well, I’ll leave and cricket/sailing and drinking can continue.
kii said:
Oh well, I’ll leave and cricket/sailing and drinking can continue.
The Boxing Day sales are causing havoc here by all accounts. Why anyone would subject themselves to that is beyond me.
Please sir…
And in other news, the verdammte hot water service clicked its safety switch off again. So once again I had to climb up on the tank stand, pull the top off the hot water service, touch the red switch – and away we go again. Still, with the heat on the roof today it should take only about half an hour to heat the tank. And I guess as the unit is nearly 20 years old, I should not complain too much. (old fashioned heat pump with the gas running across heating panels on the roof. Panels have some lichen at this stage too)
Arts said:
kii said:
Oh well, I’ll leave and cricket/sailing and drinking can continue.
The Boxing Day sales are causing havoc here by all accounts. Why anyone would subject themselves to that is beyond me.
The search for something to fill the howling, dark void of their existence?
captain_spalding said:
The search for something to fill the howling, dark void of their existence?
…said the bloke who’s just come back from spending $100 in Bunnings on materials for garden benches that he’s going to give away.
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:The search for something to fill the howling, dark void of their existence?
…said the bloke who’s just come back from spending $100 in Bunnings on materials for garden benches that he’s going to give away.
If you want something done, ask a busy person.
Another spiffing Christmas message from Her Majesty.
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:The search for something to fill the howling, dark void of their existence?
…said the bloke who’s just come back from spending $100 in Bunnings on materials for garden benches that he’s going to give away.
That’s very festive and giving of you. Well done
Terrible struggle with a maniac, 1907.
Peak Warming Man said:
Another spiffing Christmas message from Her Majesty.
checks phone
I didn’t get one. Must be off her list.
Arts said:
kii said:
Oh well, I’ll leave and cricket/sailing and drinking can continue.
The Boxing Day sales are causing havoc here by all accounts. Why anyone would subject themselves to that is beyond me.
I live on the main road which heads up to the Essendon DFO and I’m only around 600 metres from the DFO itself. It has been gridlock since 8 this morning, every available bit of lawn has a car parked on it (I do hope the parking inspectors are out) and there’s lots of horn blowing. You would have to be insane to even consider it.
sibeen said:
Arts said:
kii said:
Oh well, I’ll leave and cricket/sailing and drinking can continue.
The Boxing Day sales are causing havoc here by all accounts. Why anyone would subject themselves to that is beyond me.
I live on the main road which heads up to the Essendon DFO and I’m only around 600 metres from the DFO itself. It has been gridlock since 8 this morning, every available bit of lawn has a car parked on it (I do hope the parking inspectors are out) and there’s lots of horn blowing. You would have to be insane to even consider it.
DFO=?
sibeen said:
Arts said:
kii said:
Oh well, I’ll leave and cricket/sailing and drinking can continue.
The Boxing Day sales are causing havoc here by all accounts. Why anyone would subject themselves to that is beyond me.
I live on the main road which heads up to the Essendon DFO and I’m only around 600 metres from the DFO itself. It has been gridlock since 8 this morning, every available bit of lawn has a car parked on it (I do hope the parking inspectors are out) and there’s lots of horn blowing. You would have to be insane to even consider it.
Really? I thought people were having trouble making ends meet.
Anyway, I’ve etten some lunch, restarted the hot water service and prepared the gooey bit for semolina gnocchi (today’s culinary experiment). I think I’ll go and lie down and read and nap. Too warm outside for garden work at the moment.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
Arts said:The Boxing Day sales are causing havoc here by all accounts. Why anyone would subject themselves to that is beyond me.
I live on the main road which heads up to the Essendon DFO and I’m only around 600 metres from the DFO itself. It has been gridlock since 8 this morning, every available bit of lawn has a car parked on it (I do hope the parking inspectors are out) and there’s lots of horn blowing. You would have to be insane to even consider it.
DFO=?
I googled, Direct Factory Outlet.
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:I live on the main road which heads up to the Essendon DFO and I’m only around 600 metres from the DFO itself. It has been gridlock since 8 this morning, every available bit of lawn has a car parked on it (I do hope the parking inspectors are out) and there’s lots of horn blowing. You would have to be insane to even consider it.
DFO=?
I googled, Direct Factory Outlet.
….although it can’t be all that direct, China is some distance offshore.
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:I live on the main road which heads up to the Essendon DFO and I’m only around 600 metres from the DFO itself. It has been gridlock since 8 this morning, every available bit of lawn has a car parked on it (I do hope the parking inspectors are out) and there’s lots of horn blowing. You would have to be insane to even consider it.
DFO=?
I googled, Direct Factory Outlet.
Ok.
I don’t think we have an equivalent here.
buffy said:
sibeen said:
Arts said:The Boxing Day sales are causing havoc here by all accounts. Why anyone would subject themselves to that is beyond me.
I live on the main road which heads up to the Essendon DFO and I’m only around 600 metres from the DFO itself. It has been gridlock since 8 this morning, every available bit of lawn has a car parked on it (I do hope the parking inspectors are out) and there’s lots of horn blowing. You would have to be insane to even consider it.
Really? I thought people were having trouble making ends meet.
Anyway, I’ve etten some lunch, restarted the hot water service and prepared the gooey bit for semolina gnocchi (today’s culinary experiment). I think I’ll go and lie down and read and nap. Too warm outside for garden work at the moment.
Just do a little bit of mowing, just a little bit then you can have a lie down.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:DFO=?
I googled, Direct Factory Outlet.
Ok.
I don’t think we have an equivalent here.
Did Finish Once.
You can see it in Mark Webber’s wiki entry.
Avocado with lemon juice and fresh lovage (which goes very nicely with avo even though sarahs mum is not a fan:)) on toasted rye, topped with marinated feta.
Time to scoff them.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
sibeen said:I live on the main road which heads up to the Essendon DFO and I’m only around 600 metres from the DFO itself. It has been gridlock since 8 this morning, every available bit of lawn has a car parked on it (I do hope the parking inspectors are out) and there’s lots of horn blowing. You would have to be insane to even consider it.
Really? I thought people were having trouble making ends meet.
Anyway, I’ve etten some lunch, restarted the hot water service and prepared the gooey bit for semolina gnocchi (today’s culinary experiment). I think I’ll go and lie down and read and nap. Too warm outside for garden work at the moment.
Just do a little bit of mowing, just a little bit then you can have a lie down.
Mr Buffy did it for me
Bubblecar said:
Avocado with lemon juice and fresh lovage (which goes very nicely with avo even though sarahs mum is not a fan:)) on toasted rye, topped with marinated feta.Time to scoff them.
…after a grind of black pepper.
kryten said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:Really? I thought people were having trouble making ends meet.
Anyway, I’ve etten some lunch, restarted the hot water service and prepared the gooey bit for semolina gnocchi (today’s culinary experiment). I think I’ll go and lie down and read and nap. Too warm outside for garden work at the moment.
Just do a little bit of mowing, just a little bit then you can have a lie down.
Mr Buffy did it for me
Mr buffy did some rideon mowing …. I did some proper mowing this morning. Even though we mowed on Saturday, some of the grass was thick again today. And the chooks like a couple of catcherloads of clippings to faff about in.
I finished the book I was reading and came to get another one.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Avocado with lemon juice and fresh lovage (which goes very nicely with avo even though sarahs mum is not a fan:)) on toasted rye, topped with marinated feta.Time to scoff them.
…after a grind of black pepper.
Which has the unfortunate effect of making it look like the dust dropped on it from the rafters or something.
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:I live on the main road which heads up to the Essendon DFO and I’m only around 600 metres from the DFO itself. It has been gridlock since 8 this morning, every available bit of lawn has a car parked on it (I do hope the parking inspectors are out) and there’s lots of horn blowing. You would have to be insane to even consider it.
DFO=?
I googled, Direct Factory Outlet.
The reason people flock to Melbourne
Well, Christmas is packed away. We are now going to sit down and play cluedo while the test is on the tv and the cherries are on the table
Arts said:
Well, Christmas is packed away. We are now going to sit down and play cluedo while the test is on the tv and the cherries are on the table
It was Professor Plum, in the library, with the lead pipe.
Bubblecar said:
Arts said:
Well, Christmas is packed away. We are now going to sit down and play cluedo while the test is on the tv and the cherries are on the table
It was Professor Plum, in the library, with the lead pipe.
On a similar theme, I’m looking through awful but expressively drawn crime scenes from the Police News.
ChrispenEvan said:
No shortage of beers on offer at that gathering.
Bubblecar said:
Arts said:
Well, Christmas is packed away. We are now going to sit down and play cluedo while the test is on the tv and the cherries are on the table
It was Professor Plum, in the library, with the lead pipe.
Because of the cherries?
Bubblecar said:
ChrispenEvan said:
No shortage of beers on offer at that gathering.
They are the empties.
Bubblecar said:
Arts said:
Well, Christmas is packed away. We are now going to sit down and play cluedo while the test is on the tv and the cherries are on the table
It was Professor Plum, in the library, with the lead pipe.
I’ll take Col Mustard, in the Ballroom with the candlestick.
2nd December, 1882.
Welsh cremation case, 1884. Wonder what that was all about.
History Question
Australia’s colonial police in some states before Federation had members that dealt with people who were nuisances
What were they called ?
1871.

Tau.Neutrino said:
History QuestionAustralia’s colonial police in some states before Federation had members that dealt with people who were nuisances
What were they called ?
Don’t know. Something not very polite I’d reckon.
Tau.Neutrino said:
History QuestionAustralia’s colonial police in some states before Federation had members that dealt with people who were nuisances
What were they called ?
I’m not aware that there was a special name for police involved in such work.
The Eltham Mystery.
Bubblecar said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
History QuestionAustralia’s colonial police in some states before Federation had members that dealt with people who were nuisances
What were they called ?
I’m not aware that there was a special name for police involved in such work.
They dealt with people who were nuisances. I’ve been trying to find the article I read a long time ago.
From what I can remember they were a part of the police force.
Bubblecar said:
The Eltham Mystery.
Jane Maria Clouson (1854 – 30 April 1871) was fatally stabbed in the early hours of April 26, 1871, dying in hospital four days later. Edmund Walter Pook (1851–1920) was charged for her murder, but found not guilty. Clouson’s murder has been referred to as the Eltham murder. The murder, and ensuing police investigation and prosecution, were the subject of considerable press attention.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jane_Clouson
Victoria Police Museum
https://victoriancollections.net.au/organisations/victoria-police-museum?page=1-3&rnd=acz#collection-records
What is happening here?
https://i.imgur.com/XetMTQD.mp4
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
The Eltham Mystery.
Jane Maria Clouson (1854 – 30 April 1871) was fatally stabbed in the early hours of April 26, 1871, dying in hospital four days later. Edmund Walter Pook (1851–1920) was charged for her murder, but found not guilty. Clouson’s murder has been referred to as the Eltham murder. The murder, and ensuing police investigation and prosecution, were the subject of considerable press attention.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jane_Clouson
One curious fact about the case was that both the accused and his solicitor had the unusual surname Pook, but were not related.

Cat doesn’t look bothered.
Very surprisingly, there are no living Australian supercentenarians right now.
The oldest person in Australia is, and I’m not making this up, Agnes Kluckhenn, of Victoria, who is 109 years old.
Bubblecar said:
Arts said:
Well, Christmas is packed away. We are now going to sit down and play cluedo while the test is on the tv and the cherries are on the table
It was Professor Plum, in the library, with the lead pipe.
Miss scarlet in the study with the candlestick.
Arts said:
Bubblecar said:
Arts said:
Well, Christmas is packed away. We are now going to sit down and play cluedo while the test is on the tv and the cherries are on the table
It was Professor Plum, in the library, with the lead pipe.
Miss scarlet in the study with the candlestick.
I shoulda knew it!
dv said:
Very surprisingly, there are no living Australian supercentenarians right now.The oldest person in Australia is, and I’m not making this up, Agnes Kluckhenn, of Victoria, who is 109 years old.
That’s a damn fine name.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Arts said:
Well, Christmas is packed away. We are now going to sit down and play cluedo while the test is on the tv and the cherries are on the table
It was Professor Plum, in the library, with the lead pipe.
On a similar theme, I’m looking through awful but expressively drawn crime scenes from the Police News.
I have a book of crime scene photos throughout the ages. They are pretty incredible and the older ones show the legs from the tripod.
ChrispenEvan said:
Somewhat incongruous old dining table in the outdoors. Says she who has her great aunt’s blackwood legged table on the verandah.
The frost and its victims, 1895.
buffy said:
ChrispenEvan said:
Somewhat incongruous old dining table in the outdoors. Says she who has her great aunt’s blackwood legged table on the verandah.
we have sat around that table numerous times over the years. belonged to a mate, now dead, and so now we take it to the Brookhampton Hall and have chrissie morning there instead of his place. I am the Keeper of the Table.
ChrispenEvan said:
buffy said:
ChrispenEvan said:
Somewhat incongruous old dining table in the outdoors. Says she who has her great aunt’s blackwood legged table on the verandah.
we have sat around that table numerous times over the years. belonged to a mate, now dead, and so now we take it to the Brookhampton Hall and have chrissie morning there instead of his place. I am the Keeper of the Table.
:)
1885.
Bubblecar said:
1885.
That’s quite enough shock & horror for one Boxing Day.
Members of the London women’s police service during WW1, looking somewhat underfed.
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Atmospheric shot of a policeman controlling traffic from a box at Ludgate Circus on 2 February 1931.
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Early Tardis: A metropolitan police emergency telephone box at Richmond in London on 13 January 1931.
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Sergeant Reg Grout demonstrating the new City of London Police walkie-talkie radios in 1963.
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1964, alien invasion.
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PermeateFree said:
What is happening here?https://i.imgur.com/XetMTQD.mp4
Magnets?
1965, insane girls.
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Michael V said:
PermeateFree said:
What is happening here?https://i.imgur.com/XetMTQD.mp4
Magnets?
magnet and copper block.
https://www.iflscience.com/physics/what-happens-when-you-drop-magnet-through-copper-tube/
Tonight: last of the turkey pie with a particularly delicious salad.
ChrispenEvan said:
Michael V said:
PermeateFree said:
What is happening here?https://i.imgur.com/XetMTQD.mp4
Magnets?
magnet and copper block.
https://www.iflscience.com/physics/what-happens-when-you-drop-magnet-through-copper-tube/
Ta.
ChrispenEvan said:
Michael V said:
PermeateFree said:
What is happening here?https://i.imgur.com/XetMTQD.mp4
Magnets?
magnet and copper block.
https://www.iflscience.com/physics/what-happens-when-you-drop-magnet-through-copper-tube/
Interesting, are there any commercial applications?
hello
PermeateFree said:
ChrispenEvan said:
Michael V said:Magnets?
magnet and copper block.
https://www.iflscience.com/physics/what-happens-when-you-drop-magnet-through-copper-tube/
Interesting, are there any commercial applications?
the old watt hour meters on your house switchboard. that aluminium disc that rotated. i think that was the same principle.
Bubblecar said:
Tonight: last of the turkey pie with a particularly delicious salad.
we et a traditional xmas meal at my cousin’s home for Christmas eve and very non-traditional Christmas day lunch at home. There is still a lot of food and some pretty ordinary wine leftover and non-alcoholic bubbly for NYE. Santa gave me some earings too.
monkey skipper said:
Bubblecar said:
Tonight: last of the turkey pie with a particularly delicious salad.
we et a traditional xmas meal at my cousin’s home for Christmas eve and very non-traditional Christmas day lunch at home. There is still a lot of food and some pretty ordinary wine leftover and non-alcoholic bubbly for NYE. Santa gave me some earings too.
Jolly good, but I’m a bit worried about this mention of “non-alcoholic bubbly”.
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:
Bubblecar said:
Tonight: last of the turkey pie with a particularly delicious salad.
we et a traditional xmas meal at my cousin’s home for Christmas eve and very non-traditional Christmas day lunch at home. There is still a lot of food and some pretty ordinary wine leftover and non-alcoholic bubbly for NYE. Santa gave me some earings too.
Jolly good, but I’m a bit worried about this mention of “non-alcoholic bubbly”.
why? the daughter still hasn’t had bubby and I am the designated driver so…
ChrispenEvan said:
PermeateFree said:
ChrispenEvan said:magnet and copper block.
https://www.iflscience.com/physics/what-happens-when-you-drop-magnet-through-copper-tube/
Interesting, are there any commercial applications?
the old watt hour meters on your house switchboard. that aluminium disc that rotated. i think that was the same principle.
No flying saucers then?
monkey skipper said:
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:we et a traditional xmas meal at my cousin’s home for Christmas eve and very non-traditional Christmas day lunch at home. There is still a lot of food and some pretty ordinary wine leftover and non-alcoholic bubbly for NYE. Santa gave me some earings too.
Jolly good, but I’m a bit worried about this mention of “non-alcoholic bubbly”.
why? the daughter still hasn’t had bubby and I am the designated driver so…
What is the due date?
Bubblecar said:
Tonight: last of the turkey pie with a particularly delicious salad.
Smoked chicken (small pieces) with lettuce and tomato salad and semolina gnocchi. I wanted to try the gnocchi recipe. I added garlic. I may have added a lot of garlic…
monkey skipper said:
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:we et a traditional xmas meal at my cousin’s home for Christmas eve and very non-traditional Christmas day lunch at home. There is still a lot of food and some pretty ordinary wine leftover and non-alcoholic bubbly for NYE. Santa gave me some earings too.
Jolly good, but I’m a bit worried about this mention of “non-alcoholic bubbly”.
why? the daughter still hasn’t had bubby and I am the designated driver so…
Ah, I forgot :)
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Tonight: last of the turkey pie with a particularly delicious salad.
Smoked chicken (small pieces) with lettuce and tomato salad and semolina gnocchi. I wanted to try the gnocchi recipe. I added garlic. I may have added a lot of garlic…
A lot of garlic is good :)
Another tv show about the Bob Chappell mystery is coming to Ch 7.Called ‘Undercurrent’.
sarahs mum said:
monkey skipper said:
Bubblecar said:Jolly good, but I’m a bit worried about this mention of “non-alcoholic bubbly”.
why? the daughter still hasn’t had bubby and I am the designated driver so…
What is the due date?
this week
It was a fine repast but now I’m falling asleep in the chair so I’ll head bedwards & zedwards for an hour or so.
Might be in the mood to watch some hearly ‘itchcock later.
monkey skipper said:
sarahs mum said:
monkey skipper said:why? the daughter still hasn’t had bubby and I am the designated driver so…
What is the due date?
this week
:) Hope it goes well.
How exciting.
sarahs mum said:
monkey skipper said:
sarahs mum said:What is the due date?
this week
:) Hope it goes well.
How exciting.
ditto
And the gnocchi recipe goes into the file. Definitely OK.
A small hiatus now until we have a bit more of that cheesecake for dessert.
kryten said:
And the gnocchi recipe goes into the file. Definitely OK.
A small hiatus now until we have a bit more of that cheesecake for dessert.
a school friend’s mum’s gnocchi was so delicious.
monkey skipper said:
kryten said:And the gnocchi recipe goes into the file. Definitely OK.
A small hiatus now until we have a bit more of that cheesecake for dessert.
a school friend’s mum’s gnocchi was so delicious.
This was semolina gnocchi. I’ve made potato gnocchi before, but this is different. It’s baked. It’s basically eggs, semolina, milk cheese and butter. It’s very filling.
buffy said:
monkey skipper said:
kryten said:And the gnocchi recipe goes into the file. Definitely OK.
A small hiatus now until we have a bit more of that cheesecake for dessert.
a school friend’s mum’s gnocchi was so delicious.
This was semolina gnocchi. I’ve made potato gnocchi before, but this is different. It’s baked. It’s basically eggs, semolina, milk cheese and butter. It’s very filling.
So egg flour milk cheese and butter.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
monkey skipper said:a school friend’s mum’s gnocchi was so delicious.
This was semolina gnocchi. I’ve made potato gnocchi before, but this is different. It’s baked. It’s basically eggs, semolina, milk cheese and butter. It’s very filling.
So egg flour milk cheese and butter.
Ja. Sort of cheese dumplings, I suppose.
arvo/evening 👀
ChrispenEvan said:
arvo/evening 👀
Thanks for being here.
sarahs mum said:
ChrispenEvan said:
arvo/evening 👀
Thanks for being here.
👌
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ChrispenEvan said:
sarahs mum said:
ChrispenEvan said:
arvo/evening 👀
Thanks for being here.
👌
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okay,
I’m sort of here, too.
I just don’t have anything to say/talk about.
captain_spalding said:
I’m sort of here, too.I just don’t have anything to say/talk about.
Thank you for being here too then.
I_n his open letter, published by The West Australian, Bancroft said he had forgiven himself for his role in the scandal._
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-26/cameron-bancroft-reveals-david-warner-role-in-ball-tampering/10668712
Throws the fuck up. I was watching the test this morning and these ads featuring Smith came on.
YOU ARE SHITTING ME
I’m hoping that Smith and Warner are shunned by the test selectors forever. Then this interview crap starts. I was willing to give Bancroft a bit of the benefit of the doubt. This reeks of marketing wankers and HR dickheads having a huge input. Fuck him, I hope he never gets selected for Australia again. I can really see what will eventually happen. Smith and Bancroft will be ‘rehabilitated’. Warner will be thrown under the bus as the bad guy.
Personally, I will boo if I’m at a ground and any of these three walk out in any form for Australia. All three have been blessed with abilities far beyond the average person and yet they’ve taken those abilities and completely turned then around so they are fuckwits.
>All three have been blessed with abilities far beyond the average person
Hmm, I’m sure I’m better than them at all sorts of things, apart from children’s ball games.
sibeen said:
I_n his open letter, published by The West Australian, Bancroft said he had forgiven himself for his role in the scandal._https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-26/cameron-bancroft-reveals-david-warner-role-in-ball-tampering/10668712
Throws the fuck up. I was watching the test this morning and these ads featuring Smith came on.
YOU ARE SHITTING ME
I’m hoping that Smith and Warner are shunned by the test selectors forever. Then this interview crap starts. I was willing to give Bancroft a bit of the benefit of the doubt. This reeks of marketing wankers and HR dickheads having a huge input. Fuck him, I hope he never gets selected for Australia again. I can really see what will eventually happen. Smith and Bancroft will be ‘rehabilitated’. Warner will be thrown under the bus as the bad guy.
Personally, I will boo if I’m at a ground and any of these three walk out in any form for Australia. All three have been blessed with abilities far beyond the average person and yet they’ve taken those abilities and completely turned then around so they are fuckwits.
Warner is the bad guy in all this. He always has been a nobber. The other two I have not forgiven yet. Smith will probably make a comeback as a specialist bat some time soon, Bancroft will spend a couple of years relegated to domestic cricket.
sibeen said:
I_n his open letter, published by The West Australian, Bancroft said he had forgiven himself for his role in the scandal._https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-26/cameron-bancroft-reveals-david-warner-role-in-ball-tampering/10668712
Throws the fuck up. I was watching the test this morning and these ads featuring Smith came on.
YOU ARE SHITTING ME
I’m hoping that Smith and Warner are shunned by the test selectors forever. Then this interview crap starts. I was willing to give Bancroft a bit of the benefit of the doubt. This reeks of marketing wankers and HR dickheads having a huge input. Fuck him, I hope he never gets selected for Australia again. I can really see what will eventually happen. Smith and Bancroft will be ‘rehabilitated’. Warner will be thrown under the bus as the bad guy.
Personally, I will boo if I’m at a ground and any of these three walk out in any form for Australia. All three have been blessed with abilities far beyond the average person and yet they’ve taken those abilities and completely turned then around so they are fuckwits.
Well, in a world where the game was in the hands of people who valued it and its traditional ethics, and not the hands of marketing wankers, HR dickheads, and ‘bonus’-driven executives…
But, that world does not exist.
Also, if forgiving your self is a goer these days, as Mr. Bancroft seems to suggest:
i forgive myself for taking all those hostages back in ’87. It wasn’t supposed to be like that, but you know helicopters…
Anyway, everyone got out unhurt. Physically, anyway.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
I_n his open letter, published by The West Australian, Bancroft said he had forgiven himself for his role in the scandal._https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-26/cameron-bancroft-reveals-david-warner-role-in-ball-tampering/10668712
Throws the fuck up. I was watching the test this morning and these ads featuring Smith came on.
YOU ARE SHITTING ME
I’m hoping that Smith and Warner are shunned by the test selectors forever. Then this interview crap starts. I was willing to give Bancroft a bit of the benefit of the doubt. This reeks of marketing wankers and HR dickheads having a huge input. Fuck him, I hope he never gets selected for Australia again. I can really see what will eventually happen. Smith and Bancroft will be ‘rehabilitated’. Warner will be thrown under the bus as the bad guy.
Personally, I will boo if I’m at a ground and any of these three walk out in any form for Australia. All three have been blessed with abilities far beyond the average person and yet they’ve taken those abilities and completely turned then around so they are fuckwits.
Warner is the bad guy in all this. He always has been a nobber. The other two I have not forgiven yet. Smith will probably make a comeback as a specialist bat some time soon, Bancroft will spend a couple of years relegated to domestic cricket.
Ahhh…Warner is the bad guy.
BULLSHIT
Smith was the captain. Responsibility lies with him, and him alone.
sibeen said:
Personally, I will boo if I’m at a ground and any of these three walk out in any form for Australia. All three have been blessed with abilities far beyond the average person and yet they’ve taken those abilities and completely turned then around so they are fuckwits.
Yep, that is the worse bit.
ChrispenEvan said:
sibeen said:Personally, I will boo if I’m at a ground and any of these three walk out in any form for Australia. All three have been blessed with abilities far beyond the average person and yet they’ve taken those abilities and completely turned then around so they are fuckwits.
Yep, that is the worse bit.
They’ve let down the sport, the’ve let down their country, and worst of all, they’ve let down the kiddies.
captain_spalding said:
ChrispenEvan said:
sibeen said:Personally, I will boo if I’m at a ground and any of these three walk out in any form for Australia. All three have been blessed with abilities far beyond the average person and yet they’ve taken those abilities and completely turned then around so they are fuckwits.
Yep, that is the worse bit.
They’ve let down the sport, the’ve let down their country, and worst of all, they’ve let down the kiddies.
Yep, and I do realise that you’re being sarcastic, c_s, that is exactly what they have done.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
I_n his open letter, published by The West Australian, Bancroft said he had forgiven himself for his role in the scandal._https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-26/cameron-bancroft-reveals-david-warner-role-in-ball-tampering/10668712
Throws the fuck up. I was watching the test this morning and these ads featuring Smith came on.
YOU ARE SHITTING ME
I’m hoping that Smith and Warner are shunned by the test selectors forever. Then this interview crap starts. I was willing to give Bancroft a bit of the benefit of the doubt. This reeks of marketing wankers and HR dickheads having a huge input. Fuck him, I hope he never gets selected for Australia again. I can really see what will eventually happen. Smith and Bancroft will be ‘rehabilitated’. Warner will be thrown under the bus as the bad guy.
Personally, I will boo if I’m at a ground and any of these three walk out in any form for Australia. All three have been blessed with abilities far beyond the average person and yet they’ve taken those abilities and completely turned then around so they are fuckwits.
Warner is the bad guy in all this. He always has been a nobber. The other two I have not forgiven yet. Smith will probably make a comeback as a specialist bat some time soon, Bancroft will spend a couple of years relegated to domestic cricket.
Ahhh…Warner is the bad guy.
BULLSHIT
Smith was the captain. Responsibility lies with him, and him alone.
Smith is just a weak character. Warner is evil.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:Warner is the bad guy in all this. He always has been a nobber. The other two I have not forgiven yet. Smith will probably make a comeback as a specialist bat some time soon, Bancroft will spend a couple of years relegated to domestic cricket.
Ahhh…Warner is the bad guy.
BULLSHIT
Smith was the captain. Responsibility lies with him, and him alone.
Smith is just a weak character. Warner is evil.
I cannot accept that.
IT’S JUST A SILLY KIDS’ GAME
of no consequence to anything of any importance
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:Ahhh…Warner is the bad guy.
BULLSHIT
Smith was the captain. Responsibility lies with him, and him alone.
Smith is just a weak character. Warner is evil.
I cannot accept that.
which bit?
Bubblecar said:
IT’S JUST A SILLY KIDS’ GAMEof no consequence to anything of any importance
It’s a grown-ups games that children play.
Cricket’s just another game these days. It’s mostly about money. The rest of it is about more money.
I’m not decrying that at all. My family’s ‘traditional’ trade was mercenary soldiering, like a lot of other Irish. We’d kill whoever you paid us to, and if they offered a better deal, we’d kill you for them. Money talks loud, very loud.
It’s just that cricket isn’t anything special. It’s like horse-racing, or boxing, or dog-racing, just another game.
You give people a sniff of the money, and they want more, they’ll do dodgy things to increase their share. TV quiz shows do it -‘do you want to take your prize, or will you come back tomorrow?’, ‘do you want to play Double Jeopardy, where the scores can really change?’ etc.
Cricketers are, as the Americans would, say just another bunch of bums. Bums in white flannels, maybe, but still bums.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:Smith is just a weak character. Warner is evil.
I cannot accept that.
which bit?
The evil Warner – nice Smith stuff.
I don’t know either of these men. All I can know about them is from what some reporter has stated or from their own quotes. Smith’s “I don’t want to know” – the most damning thing I’ve ever heard as self incriminating.
captain_spalding said:
Cricket’s just another game these days. It’s mostly about money. The rest of it is about more money.I’m not decrying that at all. My family’s ‘traditional’ trade was mercenary soldiering, like a lot of other Irish. We’d kill whoever you paid us to, and if they offered a better deal, we’d kill you for them. Money talks loud, very loud.
It’s just that cricket isn’t anything special. It’s like horse-racing, or boxing, or dog-racing, just another game.
You give people a sniff of the money, and they want more, they’ll do dodgy things to increase their share. TV quiz shows do it -‘do you want to take your prize, or will you come back tomorrow?’, ‘do you want to play Double Jeopardy, where the scores can really change?’ etc.
Cricketers are, as the Americans would, say just another bunch of bums. Bums in white flannels, maybe, but still bums.
There was a time that cricket had the reputation of being a gentlemen’s game.
captain_spalding said:
Cricket’s just another game these days. It’s mostly about money. The rest of it is about more money.I’m not decrying that at all. My family’s ‘traditional’ trade was mercenary soldiering, like a lot of other Irish. We’d kill whoever you paid us to, and if they offered a better deal, we’d kill you for them. Money talks loud, very loud.
It’s just that cricket isn’t anything special. It’s like horse-racing, or boxing, or dog-racing, just another game.
You give people a sniff of the money, and they want more, they’ll do dodgy things to increase their share. TV quiz shows do it -‘do you want to take your prize, or will you come back tomorrow?’, ‘do you want to play Double Jeopardy, where the scores can really change?’ etc.
Cricketers are, as the Americans would, say just another bunch of bums. Bums in white flannels, maybe, but still bums.
Nah, there’s a social-psychological aspect to it. People invest emotional energy into supporting their team and share pride in the team’s success. Especially the national team. They do represent the nation in a sense, or at least a significant chunk of the nation.
captain_spalding said:
Cricket’s just another game these days. It’s mostly about money. The rest of it is about more money.I’m not decrying that at all. My family’s ‘traditional’ trade was mercenary soldiering, like a lot of other Irish. We’d kill whoever you paid us to, and if they offered a better deal, we’d kill you for them. Money talks loud, very loud.
It’s just that cricket isn’t anything special. It’s like horse-racing, or boxing, or dog-racing, just another game.
You give people a sniff of the money, and they want more, they’ll do dodgy things to increase their share. TV quiz shows do it -‘do you want to take your prize, or will you come back tomorrow?’, ‘do you want to play Double Jeopardy, where the scores can really change?’ etc.
Cricketers are, as the Americans would, say just another bunch of bums. Bums in white flannels, maybe, but still bums.
Yeah, – but no. It’s not like horse-racing, or boxing, or dog-racing; or at least not at the level we’re discussing. Smith was the captain of the national cricket side, which for many, myself included, is the captain of the national side. It’s not the local footy or netball club. Whether you like cricket or not is a bit beside the point. This is more about national character, and was a huge failure in that regard.
party_pants said:
Nah, there’s a social-psychological aspect to it. People invest emotional energy into supporting their team and share pride in the team’s success. Especially the national team. They do represent the nation in a sense, or at least a significant chunk of the nation.
It’s the psycho-social aspect that the ‘marketing wankers’ referred to earlier exploit.
How many rugby league, AFL, basketball, soccer teams still include a locality name in their team/business name? Players come and go, playing this week for this team, next week for that, begging to be ‘released’ from their contracts to pursue more lucrative offers. How many of the players in those teams have any association, present or past, with those localities?
Once upon a time, they did, but that was a long time ago. These days, the ‘representative’ emotion you refer to is just part ofthe marketing that the followers fall for.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:I cannot accept that.
which bit?
The evil Warner – nice Smith stuff.
I don’t know either of these men. All I can know about them is from what some reporter has stated or from their own quotes. Smith’s “I don’t want to know” – the most damning thing I’ve ever heard as self incriminating.
Not quite. Warner is rotten to the core and used his leadership position corrupt others. Smith and Bancroft joined the dark side because of weak character.
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:Nah, there’s a social-psychological aspect to it. People invest emotional energy into supporting their team and share pride in the team’s success. Especially the national team. They do represent the nation in a sense, or at least a significant chunk of the nation.
It’s the psycho-social aspect that the ‘marketing wankers’ referred to earlier exploit.
How many rugby league, AFL, basketball, soccer teams still include a locality name in their team/business name? Players come and go, playing this week for this team, next week for that, begging to be ‘released’ from their contracts to pursue more lucrative offers. How many of the players in those teams have any association, present or past, with those localities?
Once upon a time, they did, but that was a long time ago. These days, the ‘representative’ emotion you refer to is just part ofthe marketing that the followers fall for.
It is something that marketing people exploit, but they did not invent it. It comes from deep within the human psyche.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:which bit?
The evil Warner – nice Smith stuff.
I don’t know either of these men. All I can know about them is from what some reporter has stated or from their own quotes. Smith’s “I don’t want to know” – the most damning thing I’ve ever heard as self incriminating.
Not quite. Warner is rotten to the core and used his leadership position corrupt others. Smith and Bancroft joined the dark side because of weak character.
I suspect you may be putting out a bit of a line for me to swallow. 0)
I will boo if any of the three play for Oz again. Until today I only included two in that group. Bancroft lost me completely today.
>This is more about national character
It’s just a boring ball game.
And overseas people already have plenty of negative impressions of Australia in regard to more important matters – such as our treatment of refugees and our nasty characters like Rupert Murdoch.
party_pants said:
It is something that marketing people exploit, but they did not invent it. It comes from deep within the human psyche.
That’s a very possibly true, probably linked to tribalism and xenophobia and all sort of things. In sport these days, it’s a convenient handle, a ticket to joining a group, and, in the end, a lie.
Bubblecar said:
>This is more about national characterIt’s just a boring ball game.
And overseas people already have plenty of negative impressions of Australia in regard to more important matters – such as our treatment of refugees and our nasty characters like Rupert Murdoch.
No, dear, Rupert’s an American. Just ask him, he’ll tell you so.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:The evil Warner – nice Smith stuff.
I don’t know either of these men. All I can know about them is from what some reporter has stated or from their own quotes. Smith’s “I don’t want to know” – the most damning thing I’ve ever heard as self incriminating.
Not quite. Warner is rotten to the core and used his leadership position corrupt others. Smith and Bancroft joined the dark side because of weak character.
I suspect you may be putting out a bit of a line for me to swallow. 0)
I will boo if any of the three play for Oz again. Until today I only included two in that group. Bancroft lost me completely today.
I only reserve that for Warner so far. The other two I think will end up back in the fold sooner or later. The best I hope for is that they are never in a leadership position. A bit like Mark Waugh and Shane Warne were accepted back in the fold but never considered for leadership roles.
Bubblecar said:
>This is more about national characterIt’s just a boring ball game.
And overseas people already have plenty of negative impressions of Australia in regard to more important matters – such as our treatment of refugees and our nasty characters like Rupert Murdoch.
Because just like Australians people overseas look at someone like Donald Trump – and think every American; or perhaps Jeremy Corbyn – and think every Englishman; or perhaps Benjamin Netanyahu – and think every Israeli etc. Sheesh.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:Not quite. Warner is rotten to the core and used his leadership position corrupt others. Smith and Bancroft joined the dark side because of weak character.
I suspect you may be putting out a bit of a line for me to swallow. 0)
I will boo if any of the three play for Oz again. Until today I only included two in that group. Bancroft lost me completely today.
I only reserve that for Warner so far. The other two I think will end up back in the fold sooner or later. The best I hope for is that they are never in a leadership position. A bit like Mark Waugh and Shane Warne were accepted back in the fold but never considered for leadership roles.
How can you give Smith a pass? Bancroft I can perhaps see, and until today’s antics would have given a pass myself.
Bubblecar said:
IT’S JUST A SILLY KIDS’ GAMEof no consequence to anything of any importance
Are we talking about cricket?
I can’t believe the bullshit around ALL sport.
kii said:
Bubblecar said:
IT’S JUST A SILLY KIDS’ GAMEof no consequence to anything of any importance
Are we talking about cricket?
I can’t believe the bullshit around ALL sport.
wait until you get into the art or wine scene. far worse bullshit involved there.
ChrispenEvan said:
kii said:
Bubblecar said:
IT’S JUST A SILLY KIDS’ GAMEof no consequence to anything of any importance
Are we talking about cricket?
I can’t believe the bullshit around ALL sport.
wait until you get into the art or wine scene. far worse bullshit involved there.
Hahahaha.
Boris, that’s nearly the funniest thing you’ve ever said. It’s also the most correct.
sibeen said:
ChrispenEvan said:
kii said:Are we talking about cricket?
I can’t believe the bullshit around ALL sport.
wait until you get into the art or wine scene. far worse bullshit involved there.
Hahahaha.
Boris, that’s nearly the funniest thing you’ve ever said. It’s also the most correct.
soooo what was the funniest?
ChrispenEvan said:
kii said:
Bubblecar said:
IT’S JUST A SILLY KIDS’ GAMEof no consequence to anything of any importance
Are we talking about cricket?
I can’t believe the bullshit around ALL sport.
wait until you get into the art or wine scene. far worse bullshit involved there.
Oh I know. I grew up in the “art scene”.
It’s boxing day. There’s been rain. It’s still dark o’clock.
Last day my medical cannabis card is valid, I have the paperwork packet to post off to albuquerque. Decisions, decisions.
ChrispenEvan said:
sibeen said:
ChrispenEvan said:wait until you get into the art or wine scene. far worse bullshit involved there.
Hahahaha.
Boris, that’s nearly the funniest thing you’ve ever said. It’s also the most correct.
soooo what was the funniest?
I intend to keep you in suspense, and guessing. So there!
sibeen said:
ChrispenEvan said:
sibeen said:Hahahaha.
Boris, that’s nearly the funniest thing you’ve ever said. It’s also the most correct.
soooo what was the funniest?
I intend to keep you in suspense, and guessing. So there!
well, i’ll just have to go through all my jokes until i get a laugh. i hope you’re in the comfy chair.
dv said:
I hope tomorrow is a nice day for you.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:I suspect you may be putting out a bit of a line for me to swallow. 0)
I will boo if any of the three play for Oz again. Until today I only included two in that group. Bancroft lost me completely today.
I only reserve that for Warner so far. The other two I think will end up back in the fold sooner or later. The best I hope for is that they are never in a leadership position. A bit like Mark Waugh and Shane Warne were accepted back in the fold but never considered for leadership roles.
How can you give Smith a pass? Bancroft I can perhaps see, and until today’s antics would have given a pass myself.
Neither of those two get a pass, just not a life ban. I can see them coming back at some time in the future, not as soon as their bas expire, but in a year or two from now. Next summer perhaps, if someone else fails and they are looking for a replacement player, if either of these two are at the front of the domestic competition in terms of form they can be recalled.
ChrispenEvan said:
sibeen said:
ChrispenEvan said:soooo what was the funniest?
I intend to keep you in suspense, and guessing. So there!
well, i’ll just have to go through all my jokes until i get a laugh. i hope you’re in the comfy chair.
Well I’ll just have to make sure that I have plenty of rolls eyes available to type.
ChrispenEvan said:
sibeen said:
ChrispenEvan said:soooo what was the funniest?
I intend to keep you in suspense, and guessing. So there!
well, i’ll just have to go through all my jokes until i get a laugh. i hope you’re in the comfy chair.
Well I’ll just have to make sure that I have plenty of rolls eyes available to type.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:I only reserve that for Warner so far. The other two I think will end up back in the fold sooner or later. The best I hope for is that they are never in a leadership position. A bit like Mark Waugh and Shane Warne were accepted back in the fold but never considered for leadership roles.
How can you give Smith a pass? Bancroft I can perhaps see, and until today’s antics would have given a pass myself.
Neither of those two get a pass, just not a life ban. I can see them coming back at some time in the future, not as soon as their bas expire, but in a year or two from now. Next summer perhaps, if someone else fails and they are looking for a replacement player, if either of these two are at the front of the domestic competition in terms of form they can be recalled.
No, no, no. Smith was the captain. The big bucks, the big responsibility, the big fucking kicking.
Explain what happens next.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:How can you give Smith a pass? Bancroft I can perhaps see, and until today’s antics would have given a pass myself.
Neither of those two get a pass, just not a life ban. I can see them coming back at some time in the future, not as soon as their bas expire, but in a year or two from now. Next summer perhaps, if someone else fails and they are looking for a replacement player, if either of these two are at the front of the domestic competition in terms of form they can be recalled.
No, no, no. Smith was the captain. The big bucks, the big responsibility, the big fucking kicking.
Ah well, that’s where we disagree. I don’t ever want him to return as captain. I am OK if he returns as an ordinary player only, but only if he goes back to domestic cricket and works his way back to the front of the queue.
Matter of opinion really.
kii said:
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Explain what happens next.
Five spoons fall to the ground with a metallic jingle and dull thud*.
*assuming their floor is carpeted.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
I hope tomorrow is a nice day for you.
Thanks, sm. And for you.
Stop arguing about stoopid sport and look up the “bearded vulture”.
kii said:
Stop arguing about stoopid sport and look up the “bearded vulture”.
No.
kii said:
Stop arguing about stoopid sport and look up the “bearded vulture”.
we’re not arguing.
John Malkovich as Poirot
Rupert Grint as Chrome
In
The ABC Murders
A deadset fucking classic by Agatha Christie
Very soon
I’LL be watching
kii said:
Stop arguing about stoopid sport and look up the “bearded vulture”.
They’re big and impressively nightmarish birds.

dv said:
John Malkovich as Poirot
Rupert Grint as ChromeIn
The ABC Murders
A deadset fucking classic by Agatha Christie
Very soon
I’LL be watching
If it ain’t David Suchet, it ain’t Poirot.
dv said:
John Malkovich as Poirot
Rupert Grint as ChromeIn
The ABC Murders
A deadset fucking classic by Agatha Christie
Very soon
I’LL be watching
What channel?
Bubblecar said:
kii said:
Stop arguing about stoopid sport and look up the “bearded vulture”.
They’re big and impressively nightmarish birds.
THEY EAT BONES!
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
John Malkovich as Poirot
Rupert Grint as ChromeIn
The ABC Murders
A deadset fucking classic by Agatha Christie
Very soon
I’LL be watching
What channel?
Oh, I thought you meant it’s on tonight.
Yes will be worth watching when it gets here.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
John Malkovich as Poirot
Rupert Grint as ChromeIn
The ABC Murders
A deadset fucking classic by Agatha Christie
Very soon
I’LL be watching
What channel?
Oh, I thought you meant it’s on tonight.
Yes will be worth watching when it gets here.
He’s probably watching it on Smart Netflix or some other capitalist thing.
kii said:
Bubblecar said:
kii said:
Stop arguing about stoopid sport and look up the “bearded vulture”.
They’re big and impressively nightmarish birds.
THEY EAT BONES!
Good on them.
Oh well. I’ll go. Apparently I pick fights in here, according to Witty, so I’ve had enough bullshit. He failed to mention how others bully some forum members, but that must be okay.
Making changes to my daily routine, hanging out in here isn’t good for me right now.
kii said:
Oh well. I’ll go. Apparently I pick fights in here, according to Witty, so I’ve had enough bullshit. He failed to mention how others bully some forum members, but that must be okay.Making changes to my daily routine, hanging out in here isn’t good for me right now.
kii said:
Oh well. I’ll go. Apparently I pick fights in here, according to Witty, so I’ve had enough bullshit. He failed to mention how others bully some forum members, but that must be okay.Making changes to my daily routine, hanging out in here isn’t good for me right now.
WTF.
You came in, made a statement, no-one argued with you. You’re now in a huff and fucking off?
Anway – Pakistan all out 181, Sarth Efrika 9 without loss.
Don’t talk about cricket.
kii said:
Oh well. I’ll go. Apparently I pick fights in here, according to Witty, so I’ve had enough bullshit. He failed to mention how others bully some forum members, but that must be okay.Making changes to my daily routine, hanging out in here isn’t good for me right now.
Not sure why you think there’s a problem. I was posting in here from time to time most of the day, with no response.
Not because there was some big group of lurkers deliberately ignoring me, but because most people had other things to do on Boxing Day than post in a chat forum :)
sibeen said:
Don’t talk about cricket.
Talk about cricket as much as you like, it’s a free nation.
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
I hope tomorrow is a nice day for you.
Thanks, sm. And for you.
:)
I’m still somewhat grief stricken. But I have visitors tomorrow so I will try to get it together. Forecast is for 24 and a bit cloudy.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
sarahs mum said:I hope tomorrow is a nice day for you.
Thanks, sm. And for you.
:)
I’m still somewhat grief stricken. But I have visitors tomorrow so I will try to get it together. Forecast is for 24 and a bit cloudy.
Rather unpleasantly hot here tomorrow: 28, and 30 on Friday. Then 28, 27, 26, 25, 28.
But it is summer so I can’t sensibly complain.
Roz, sorry to hear about your brother hugs
sibeen said:
Roz, sorry to hear about your brother hugs
Thanks Sibeen.
What were we talking? Ah yes, cricket.
I agree with p_p for the most. All three should be allowed to play for Oz again once their bans are served but not in leadership roles. There will be taunts and sandpaper references for ever and fucking ever especially from the poms.
I hope that clears that up.
Ian said:
What were we talking? Ah yes, cricket.I agree with p_p for the most. All three should be allowed to play for Oz again once their bans are served but not in leadership roles. There will be taunts and sandpaper references for ever and fucking ever especially from the poms.
I hope that clears that up.
pretty sure things like that have been happening since ’33
Ah, the ABC has started showing Poles freezing in Stalin’s gulags… good
..No more bloody Christmas carols!
“Colonisation? That’s just two centuries,” curator Hamady Bocoum said, saying that proof of African civilisation is at least 7,000 years old, referencing a skull discovered in present-day Chad.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-27/museum-of-black-civilisations-opens-in-dakar/10669212
Is the work experience kid a YEC?
I’ll tell you what, I’ve had some pretty good wines this Christmas. I can’t complain about the quality of the wine.
Bubblecar said:
I’ll tell you what, I’ve had some pretty good wines this Christmas. I can’t complain about the quality of the wine.
everyone loves a good wine here
Arts said:
Bubblecar said:
I’ll tell you what, I’ve had some pretty good wines this Christmas. I can’t complain about the quality of the wine.
everyone loves a good wine here
Wining, dining and moaning.
I’m about to have a hot supper of chips, ham & egg.
Arts said:
Bubblecar said:
I’ll tell you what, I’ve had some pretty good wines this Christmas. I can’t complain about the quality of the wine.
everyone loves a good wine here
You should think about the children.
Bubblecar said:
Arts said:
Bubblecar said:
I’ll tell you what, I’ve had some pretty good wines this Christmas. I can’t complain about the quality of the wine.
everyone loves a good wine here
Wining, dining and moaning.
I’m about to have a hot supper of chips, ham & egg.
I had some chocolate and a coffee.. it’s assignment night for most of tonight
Arts said:
Bubblecar said:
Arts said:everyone loves a good wine here
Wining, dining and moaning.
I’m about to have a hot supper of chips, ham & egg.
I had some chocolate and a coffee.. it’s assignment night for most of tonight
A strange time to have to click back into studious mode, but good luck :)
I’m off into the living room to watch some ancient film on DVD, and doubtless fall asleep in the armchair.
captain_spalding said:
Cricket’s just another game these days. It’s mostly about money. The rest of it is about more money.I’m not decrying that at all. My family’s ‘traditional’ trade was mercenary soldiering, like a lot of other Irish. We’d kill whoever you paid us to, and if they offered a better deal, we’d kill you for them. Money talks loud, very loud.
It’s just that cricket isn’t anything special. It’s like horse-racing, or boxing, or dog-racing, just another game.
You give people a sniff of the money, and they want more, they’ll do dodgy things to increase their share. TV quiz shows do it -‘do you want to take your prize, or will you come back tomorrow?’, ‘do you want to play Double Jeopardy, where the scores can really change?’ etc.
Cricketers are, as the Americans would, say just another bunch of bums. Bums in white flannels, maybe, but still bums.
Reminds me of Alexander Pearce a Tasmanian convict.
Bubblecar said:
Arts said:
Bubblecar said:Wining, dining and moaning.
I’m about to have a hot supper of chips, ham & egg.
I had some chocolate and a coffee.. it’s assignment night for most of tonight
A strange time to have to click back into studious mode, but good luck :)
I’m off into the living room to watch some ancient film on DVD, and doubtless fall asleep in the armchair.
I made a deal.. the BBL then assignment time… enjoy your movie



sibeen said:
kii said:
Oh well. I’ll go. Apparently I pick fights in here, according to Witty, so I’ve had enough bullshit. He failed to mention how others bully some forum members, but that must be okay.Making changes to my daily routine, hanging out in here isn’t good for me right now.
WTF.
You came in, made a statement, no-one argued with you. You’re now in a huff and fucking off?
I should explain…
This has been on the cards for a while. Not a sudden decision.
Good luck, sibeen, with your whatever.
Bubblecar said:
kii said:
Oh well. I’ll go. Apparently I pick fights in here, according to Witty, so I’ve had enough bullshit. He failed to mention how others bully some forum members, but that must be okay.Making changes to my daily routine, hanging out in here isn’t good for me right now.
Not sure why you think there’s a problem. I was posting in here from time to time most of the day, with no response.
Not because there was some big group of lurkers deliberately ignoring me, but because most people had other things to do on Boxing Day than post in a chat forum :)
You misunderstand. It’s not worth explaining, think of it as giving up smoking. The forum is a bad habit.
Oh, I am ignored by some people. Plus I get called out for pointing out behaviour that I see as bullying, but others get a free pass. So, fuck it.
kii said:
Bubblecar said:
kii said:
Oh well. I’ll go. Apparently I pick fights in here, according to Witty, so I’ve had enough bullshit. He failed to mention how others bully some forum members, but that must be okay.Making changes to my daily routine, hanging out in here isn’t good for me right now.
Not sure why you think there’s a problem. I was posting in here from time to time most of the day, with no response.
Not because there was some big group of lurkers deliberately ignoring me, but because most people had other things to do on Boxing Day than post in a chat forum :)
You misunderstand. It’s not worth explaining, think of it as giving up smoking. The forum is a bad habit.
Oh, I am ignored by some people. Plus I get called out for pointing out behaviour that I see as bullying, but others get a free pass. So, fuck it.
I post here when I’m feeling sociable, and don’t post when I’m not feeling sociable.
There are some pleasant people here, I enjoy their company.
Obviously if you’re not happy posting here, then don’t.
kii said:
sibeen said:
kii said:
Oh well. I’ll go. Apparently I pick fights in here, according to Witty, so I’ve had enough bullshit. He failed to mention how others bully some forum members, but that must be okay.Making changes to my daily routine, hanging out in here isn’t good for me right now.
WTF.
You came in, made a statement, no-one argued with you. You’re now in a huff and fucking off?
I should explain…
This has been on the cards for a while. Not a sudden decision.
Good luck, sibeen, with your whatever.
Just think of them as little children and in your mind lock them in a dark wardrobe.
kii said:
Bubblecar said:
kii said:
Oh well. I’ll go. Apparently I pick fights in here, according to Witty, so I’ve had enough bullshit. He failed to mention how others bully some forum members, but that must be okay.Making changes to my daily routine, hanging out in here isn’t good for me right now.
Not sure why you think there’s a problem. I was posting in here from time to time most of the day, with no response.
Not because there was some big group of lurkers deliberately ignoring me, but because most people had other things to do on Boxing Day than post in a chat forum :)
You misunderstand. It’s not worth explaining, think of it as giving up smoking. The forum is a bad habit.
Oh, I am ignored by some people. Plus I get called out for pointing out behaviour that I see as bullying, but others get a free pass. So, fuck it.
I will miss you here.
Oops.
https://i.imgur.com/frJRwED.mp4
Damn!
https://i.imgur.com/f2IfsjG.mp4
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 14 degrees, going for a 38. Take the dogs for a walk now, pull out some weeds where I want to get the zucchini seed in and most of the day will be indoors. We’ll go to Hamilton later, in the airconditioned car to go to the airconditioned supermarket.
I have been giving Panzer General a flogging playing in campaign mode. It’s almost realistic historically though the campaign trees shift depending on how you go before veering back to a historical incident, playing Salerno at the moment.
One interesting thing with the campaign mode is you keep your old units and they gain experience as they become veterans which means extra movement and hit points and they get medals which adjust the chance tables. You get really careful with your veterans and play a lot more cautiously, especIally because of the cascade nature, lost them and it makes the next scenario harder.
Team review today, but an X-ray is booked for tomorrow so I am guessing out tomorrow.
Just started reading “Enlightenment Now” by Steven Pinker.
It’s quite good.
In fact if the rest is as good as the first chapter, it may well be the best book I’ve ever read.
I’ll let you know.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Just started reading “Enlightenment Now” by Steven Pinker.It’s quite good.
In fact if the rest is as good as the first chapter, it may well be the best book I’ve ever read.
I’ll let you know.
Standing by.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Just started reading “Enlightenment Now” by Steven Pinker.It’s quite good.
In fact if the rest is as good as the first chapter, it may well be the best book I’ve ever read.
I’ll let you know.
Is it as good as Serenity Now!
AwesomeO said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Just started reading “Enlightenment Now” by Steven Pinker.It’s quite good.
In fact if the rest is as good as the first chapter, it may well be the best book I’ve ever read.
I’ll let you know.
Is it as good as Serenity Now!
I don’t know. I haven’t read, seen, heard, tasted, felt, or smelled Serenity now.
Morning. Medicating the masses again and selling bogans coke. Got Frank Hurley’s Diaries 1912-1941 to read, so far so good.
AwesomeO said:
I have been giving Panzer General a flogging playing in campaign mode. It’s almost realistic historically though the campaign trees shift depending on how you go before veering back to a historical incident, playing Salerno at the moment.One interesting thing with the campaign mode is you keep your old units and they gain experience as they become veterans which means extra movement and hit points and they get medals which adjust the chance tables. You get really careful with your veterans and play a lot more cautiously, especIally because of the cascade nature, lost them and it makes the next scenario harder.
Team review today, but an X-ray is booked for tomorrow so I am guessing out tomorrow.
Rommel’s African Corps was like that, they ended up getting beaten by meteriale’
The navy’d determination not to give up Malta or abandon the Mediterranean won the North African campaign.
poikilotherm said:
Morning. Medicating the masses again and selling bogans coke. Got Frank Hurley’s Diaries 1912-1941 to read, so far so good.
Is that about his time hiding in an attic?
Peak Warming Man said:
AwesomeO said:
I have been giving Panzer General a flogging playing in campaign mode. It’s almost realistic historically though the campaign trees shift depending on how you go before veering back to a historical incident, playing Salerno at the moment.One interesting thing with the campaign mode is you keep your old units and they gain experience as they become veterans which means extra movement and hit points and they get medals which adjust the chance tables. You get really careful with your veterans and play a lot more cautiously, especIally because of the cascade nature, lost them and it makes the next scenario harder.
Team review today, but an X-ray is booked for tomorrow so I am guessing out tomorrow.
Rommel’s African Corps was like that, they ended up getting beaten by meteriale’
The navy’d determination not to give up Malta or abandon the Mediterranean won the North African campaign.
I have read some great counter factual a based on Hitler listening to Doenitz and closing off the British lake, requiring relatively few resources (including a professional Italian navy working within its comfort zone) would have had vast benefits including free reign in Africa and the middle eastern oilfields.

In Australia a small relatively unheard of inconsequential state causes most fire deaths.
Peak Warming Man said:
poikilotherm said:
Morning. Medicating the masses again and selling bogans coke. Got Frank Hurley’s Diaries 1912-1941 to read, so far so good.
Is that about his time hiding in an attic?
That’s a long time to be in an Attic, even for an aussie.
Another new thing in the electronic hospital, dr does rounds and wants a sputum sample so writes it on his work desk screen (they get wheeled around), nurse sees it on her screen and when she comes around she has a little specimen cup and if you provide it immediately she can print out a little sticker that has your name, requesting doctor, test required and time.
AwesomeO said:
Another new thing in the electronic hospital, dr does rounds and wants a sputum sample so writes it on his work desk screen (they get wheeled around), nurse sees it on her screen and when she comes around she has a little specimen cup and if you provide it immediately she can print out a little sticker that has your name, requesting doctor, test required and time.
Are your medical bills paid for by the army or some such?
Peak Warming Man said:
AwesomeO said:
Another new thing in the electronic hospital, dr does rounds and wants a sputum sample so writes it on his work desk screen (they get wheeled around), nurse sees it on her screen and when she comes around she has a little specimen cup and if you provide it immediately she can print out a little sticker that has your name, requesting doctor, test required and time.
Are your medical bills paid for by the army or some such?
No, just public health. No one shot at me so no gold card.
AwesomeO said:
I have read some great counter factual a based on Hitler listening to Doenitz and closing off the British lake, requiring relatively few resources (including a professional Italian navy working within its comfort zone) would have had vast benefits including free reign in Africa and the middle eastern oilfields.
There’s some butterfly-wing effects to think of there. If the Straits of Gibraltar were closed to the Allies, it would have meant more effort in supply to Egypt around the Cape of Good Hope and into the Red Sea. Western Africa, Australia and India would have been more important, as the Indian Ocean assumed more significance. Germany’s u-boat fleet would have had to be stretched to cover the routes down the west coast of Africa, devoting fewer subs to interdicting cross-Atlantic shipping, which would have been some compensation to the Allies.
Arts said:
kii said:
Bubblecar said:Not sure why you think there’s a problem. I was posting in here from time to time most of the day, with no response.
Not because there was some big group of lurkers deliberately ignoring me, but because most people had other things to do on Boxing Day than post in a chat forum :)
You misunderstand. It’s not worth explaining, think of it as giving up smoking. The forum is a bad habit.
Oh, I am ignored by some people. Plus I get called out for pointing out behaviour that I see as bullying, but others get a free pass. So, fuck it.
I will miss you here.
I hope it isn’t my remiss. I like Kii.
Sister Wendy Beckett, the TV star and art historian, has died at the age of 88.
Beckett emerged as an unlikely TV personality in the 1990s through her belief that art belongs to everyone. Born in South Africa in 1930, Beckett spent part of her childhood in Edinburgh, where her father studied medicine. She taught in several cities including Cape Town and Liverpool.
Sister Wendy Beckett: an unlikely star with an inspirational faith in beauty
Mark Lawson
Mark Lawson
Read more
Later in life she gained TV fame hosting programmes for the BBC from galleries around the world. Beckett presented a series of documentaries for the BBC during the 1990s, including Sister Wendy’s Odyssey and Sister Wendy’s Grand Tour. Dressed in a black nun’s habit, Beckett would discuss paintings, without script or autocue.
One of her most ambitious pieces of TV work was Sister Wendy’s Story of Painting, a 10-part series that saw her travel across Europe, the Middle East and the US. She also published a book with the same title.
Beckett died at the Carmelite monastery in Quidenham, Norfolk on Boxing Day afternoon.
Her close friend journalist Xinran Xue said: “It is very sad news. Many people see her as a religious person and she was far more than that. It’s a huge loss for the art world. She was a brilliant art critic.”
Beckett described her childhood as idyllic, where adults never quarrelled or spoke unkindly about one another. “Through my parents’ example there was never any doubt in my mind that God loved us and that it mattered how we behaved,” she noted in her book Encounters with God: in Quest of the Ancient Icons of Mary.
Sister Wendy Beckett obituary
Read more
She joined a teaching order, the Sisters of Notre Dame de Namur when she was 17 and she said that her father believed should would struggle to adapt to life as a nun as she was so young. Her mother, however, insisted it was the right path for her, describing her as an “odd child” who had wanted to join a convent since she was a baby.
Still as part of the order, Beckett studied at Oxford University in the 1950s and was awarded a congratulatory first-class degree in English literature. She returned to South Africa and taught in convent schools for nearly two decades until her health had deteriorated and her order agreed to send her to live under the protection of the Carmelites in Norfolk as a hermit, devoting her life to prayer.
After studying art in the 1980s, Beckett began publishing articles in the local newspaper. Those led to an appearance on a TV arts show and eventually to five major series, scripted and presented by “one-take Wendy”, as she was known to directors. Beckett had also published several books in the subject, including Contemporary Women Artists.
Beckett’s success led to her having a musical written about her, Postcards from God: the Sister Wendy Musical, created by Marcus Reeves. It ran briefly in a small West End venue.
Beckett made a name for herself with US audiences in Sister Wendy’s American Collection, where she travelled to six American museums to discuss masterworks of painting and sculpture, and Sister Wendy at the Norton Simon Museum, where she explored the institution in Pasadena, California, in 2001, but she retired to a quiet life soon after.
News of her death was quickly met with tributes. Writer Dolly Alderton tweeted she was saddened to hear of Beckett’s death, adding she was “always astonished at her intelligence and humility and tenderness”. Author Sarah Bessey said that Beckett’s “enthusiasm for art history was such a gift”, while Salt, an independent publishing house, noted she was “brilliant at conveying complex ideas with lucidity, enthusiasm and charm”.
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2018/dec/26/art-historian-sister-wendy-beckett-dies-aged-88?CMP=share_btn_fb&fbclid=IwAR0dNw4UN1vghmJHHftjfJjAL2fkCqpa3Oes3ygKriS_7vc4i6mxfc3R-H8
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
kii said:You misunderstand. It’s not worth explaining, think of it as giving up smoking. The forum is a bad habit.
Oh, I am ignored by some people. Plus I get called out for pointing out behaviour that I see as bullying, but others get a free pass. So, fuck it.
I will miss you here.
I hope it isn’t my remiss. I like Kii.
I like Kii and like reading her input.
sarahs mum said:
Sister Wendy Beckett, the TV star and art historian, has died at the age of 88.Beckett emerged as an unlikely TV personality in the 1990s through her belief that art belongs to everyone. Born in South Africa in 1930, Beckett spent part of her childhood in Edinburgh, where her father studied medicine. She taught in several cities including Cape Town and Liverpool.
Sister Wendy Beckett: an unlikely star with an inspirational faith in beauty
Mark Lawson
Mark Lawson
Read moreLater in life she gained TV fame hosting programmes for the BBC from galleries around the world. Beckett presented a series of documentaries for the BBC during the 1990s, including Sister Wendy’s Odyssey and Sister Wendy’s Grand Tour. Dressed in a black nun’s habit, Beckett would discuss paintings, without script or autocue.
One of her most ambitious pieces of TV work was Sister Wendy’s Story of Painting, a 10-part series that saw her travel across Europe, the Middle East and the US. She also published a book with the same title.
Beckett died at the Carmelite monastery in Quidenham, Norfolk on Boxing Day afternoon.
Her close friend journalist Xinran Xue said: “It is very sad news. Many people see her as a religious person and she was far more than that. It’s a huge loss for the art world. She was a brilliant art critic.”
Beckett described her childhood as idyllic, where adults never quarrelled or spoke unkindly about one another. “Through my parents’ example there was never any doubt in my mind that God loved us and that it mattered how we behaved,” she noted in her book Encounters with God: in Quest of the Ancient Icons of Mary.
Sister Wendy Beckett obituary
Read moreShe joined a teaching order, the Sisters of Notre Dame de Namur when she was 17 and she said that her father believed should would struggle to adapt to life as a nun as she was so young. Her mother, however, insisted it was the right path for her, describing her as an “odd child” who had wanted to join a convent since she was a baby.
Still as part of the order, Beckett studied at Oxford University in the 1950s and was awarded a congratulatory first-class degree in English literature. She returned to South Africa and taught in convent schools for nearly two decades until her health had deteriorated and her order agreed to send her to live under the protection of the Carmelites in Norfolk as a hermit, devoting her life to prayer.
After studying art in the 1980s, Beckett began publishing articles in the local newspaper. Those led to an appearance on a TV arts show and eventually to five major series, scripted and presented by “one-take Wendy”, as she was known to directors. Beckett had also published several books in the subject, including Contemporary Women Artists.
Beckett’s success led to her having a musical written about her, Postcards from God: the Sister Wendy Musical, created by Marcus Reeves. It ran briefly in a small West End venue.
Beckett made a name for herself with US audiences in Sister Wendy’s American Collection, where she travelled to six American museums to discuss masterworks of painting and sculpture, and Sister Wendy at the Norton Simon Museum, where she explored the institution in Pasadena, California, in 2001, but she retired to a quiet life soon after.
News of her death was quickly met with tributes. Writer Dolly Alderton tweeted she was saddened to hear of Beckett’s death, adding she was “always astonished at her intelligence and humility and tenderness”. Author Sarah Bessey said that Beckett’s “enthusiasm for art history was such a gift”, while Salt, an independent publishing house, noted she was “brilliant at conveying complex ideas with lucidity, enthusiasm and charm”.
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2018/dec/26/art-historian-sister-wendy-beckett-dies-aged-88?CMP=share_btn_fb&fbclid=IwAR0dNw4UN1vghmJHHftjfJjAL2fkCqpa3Oes3ygKriS_7vc4i6mxfc3R-H8
Wendy was into art
with much to impart
Art was in her heart
Tau.Neutrino said:
sarahs mum said:
Sister Wendy Beckett, the TV star and art historian, has died at the age of 88.Beckett emerged as an unlikely TV personality in the 1990s through her belief that art belongs to everyone. Born in South Africa in 1930, Beckett spent part of her childhood in Edinburgh, where her father studied medicine. She taught in several cities including Cape Town and Liverpool.
Sister Wendy Beckett: an unlikely star with an inspirational faith in beauty
Mark Lawson
Mark Lawson
Read moreLater in life she gained TV fame hosting programmes for the BBC from galleries around the world. Beckett presented a series of documentaries for the BBC during the 1990s, including Sister Wendy’s Odyssey and Sister Wendy’s Grand Tour. Dressed in a black nun’s habit, Beckett would discuss paintings, without script or autocue.
One of her most ambitious pieces of TV work was Sister Wendy’s Story of Painting, a 10-part series that saw her travel across Europe, the Middle East and the US. She also published a book with the same title.
Beckett died at the Carmelite monastery in Quidenham, Norfolk on Boxing Day afternoon.
Her close friend journalist Xinran Xue said: “It is very sad news. Many people see her as a religious person and she was far more than that. It’s a huge loss for the art world. She was a brilliant art critic.”
Beckett described her childhood as idyllic, where adults never quarrelled or spoke unkindly about one another. “Through my parents’ example there was never any doubt in my mind that God loved us and that it mattered how we behaved,” she noted in her book Encounters with God: in Quest of the Ancient Icons of Mary.
Sister Wendy Beckett obituary
Read moreShe joined a teaching order, the Sisters of Notre Dame de Namur when she was 17 and she said that her father believed should would struggle to adapt to life as a nun as she was so young. Her mother, however, insisted it was the right path for her, describing her as an “odd child” who had wanted to join a convent since she was a baby.
Still as part of the order, Beckett studied at Oxford University in the 1950s and was awarded a congratulatory first-class degree in English literature. She returned to South Africa and taught in convent schools for nearly two decades until her health had deteriorated and her order agreed to send her to live under the protection of the Carmelites in Norfolk as a hermit, devoting her life to prayer.
After studying art in the 1980s, Beckett began publishing articles in the local newspaper. Those led to an appearance on a TV arts show and eventually to five major series, scripted and presented by “one-take Wendy”, as she was known to directors. Beckett had also published several books in the subject, including Contemporary Women Artists.
Beckett’s success led to her having a musical written about her, Postcards from God: the Sister Wendy Musical, created by Marcus Reeves. It ran briefly in a small West End venue.
Beckett made a name for herself with US audiences in Sister Wendy’s American Collection, where she travelled to six American museums to discuss masterworks of painting and sculpture, and Sister Wendy at the Norton Simon Museum, where she explored the institution in Pasadena, California, in 2001, but she retired to a quiet life soon after.
News of her death was quickly met with tributes. Writer Dolly Alderton tweeted she was saddened to hear of Beckett’s death, adding she was “always astonished at her intelligence and humility and tenderness”. Author Sarah Bessey said that Beckett’s “enthusiasm for art history was such a gift”, while Salt, an independent publishing house, noted she was “brilliant at conveying complex ideas with lucidity, enthusiasm and charm”.
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2018/dec/26/art-historian-sister-wendy-beckett-dies-aged-88?CMP=share_btn_fb&fbclid=IwAR0dNw4UN1vghmJHHftjfJjAL2fkCqpa3Oes3ygKriS_7vc4i6mxfc3R-H8
Wendy was into art
with much to impart
Art was in her heart
After you get you PhD, then you can write like Sister Wendy if you still want to.
>>>After you get you PhD, then you can write like Sister Wendy if you still want to.
Yes Wendy was a brilliant art critic. One of the best on the world.
I need a PhD in spelling and grammar before getting a real PhD.
Tau.Neutrino said:
>>>After you get you PhD, then you can write like Sister Wendy if you still want to.Yes Wendy was a brilliant art critic. One of the best on the world.
I need a PhD in spelling and grammar before getting a real PhD.
It’s a trick question. You are supposed to like Robert Hughes.
sarahs mum said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
>>>After you get you PhD, then you can write like Sister Wendy if you still want to.Yes Wendy was a brilliant art critic. One of the best on the world.
I need a PhD in spelling and grammar before getting a real PhD.
It’s a trick question. You are supposed to like Robert Hughes.
I like Wendy, she is much better than Robert.
Tau.Neutrino said:
>>>After you get you PhD, then you can write like Sister Wendy if you still want to.Yes Wendy was a brilliant art critic. One of the best on the world.
I need a PhD in spelling and grammar before getting a real PhD.
Yes Wendy was a bwillyant art cwitic. One of va best in va world.
/fixed
Woodie said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
>>>After you get you PhD, then you can write like Sister Wendy if you still want to.Yes Wendy was a brilliant art critic. One of the best on the world.
I need a PhD in spelling and grammar before getting a real PhD.
Yes Wendy was a bwillyant art cwitic. One of va best in va world.
/fixed
Thanks for fixing that, no I don’t like Robert, grumpy old fart he is.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Woodie said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
>>>After you get you PhD, then you can write like Sister Wendy if you still want to.Yes Wendy was a brilliant art critic. One of the best on the world.
I need a PhD in spelling and grammar before getting a real PhD.
Yes Wendy was a bwillyant art cwitic. One of va best in va world.
/fixed
Thanks for fixing that, no I don’t like Robert, grumpy old fart he is.
He’s dead Jim.
Peak Warming Man said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Woodie said:Yes Wendy was a bwillyant art cwitic. One of va best in va world.
/fixed
Thanks for fixing that, no I don’t like Robert, grumpy old fart he is.
He’s dead Jim.
Thanks for fixing that, no I don’t like Robert, grumpy old fart he was.
https://www.eonline.com/news/999432/miley-cyrus-confirms-marriage-to-liam-hemsworth
Sets counter.
Shopping List.
1. Popular Cola
B. Fresh bread.
C. Oranges
IV. Milk.
Peak Warming Man said:
Shopping List.
1. Popular Cola
B. Fresh bread.
C. Oranges
IV. Milk.
My shopping list
Allens Snakes Alive
Bread
Milk
Pasta Stir fry sauce
V Guarana Energy Drink 500ml
Tau.Neutrino said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Shopping List.
1. Popular Cola
B. Fresh bread.
C. Oranges
IV. Milk.
My shopping list
Allens Snakes Alive
Bread
Milk
Pasta Stir fry sauce
V Guarana Energy Drink 500ml
Shopping list.
Today: Nothing
Tomorrow: Depending on height of creek over road.
Milk
Bread
Wine
Cigs (For mz Tamb)
If shops sold cigarette smoke, the actual smoke cigarettes make, would it sell as well as cigarettes?
Just been pantry shopping in Hamilton. Things like small tins of corn, baked beans, tinned peaches, apricots. Vegemite. Peanut butter. Toilet paper. Skim milk powder. Olive oil. Onions. Carrots. Butter.
Now 34 and getting steadily hotter. I’ve filled all the little dishes for birds and the low pressure sprinklers are on. The dog paddling pool is also filled. I think I’ll spend the rest of the day reading, crocheting and napping.
Essendon has just hit 36.6. The city is only 10 ks away but is sitting at 27.5.
buffy said:
Just been pantry shopping in Hamilton. Things like small tins of corn, baked beans, tinned peaches, apricots. Vegemite. Peanut butter. Toilet paper. Skim milk powder. Olive oil. Onions. Carrots. Butter.
Now 34 and getting steadily hotter. I’ve filled all the little dishes for birds and the low pressure sprinklers are on. The dog paddling pool is also filled. I think I’ll spend the rest of the day reading, crocheting and napping.
Good idea. I’ll read a book in the air-conditioned living room.
But checking the news etc on the internets first.
sibeen said:
Essendon has just hit 36.6. The city is only 10 ks away but is sitting at 27.5.
40.8°C here.
roughbarked said:
sibeen said:
Essendon has just hit 36.6. The city is only 10 ks away but is sitting at 27.5.
40.8°C here.
25.2° & gentle drizzle here.
This is heart-warming:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-27/bayswater-street-pantry-concept-feeding-less-fortunate/10666848
I plan to make this swan curtain. I’ve had the book of patterns for years and years and always said I’d give some of them a go when I had more time. So yesterday I did the 250 chain and the horrible first row where you have to concentrate really hard to pick up the loops. Now the rest of the concentration is in following the chart of blocks and spaces.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
sibeen said:
Essendon has just hit 36.6. The city is only 10 ks away but is sitting at 27.5.
40.8°C here.
25.2° & gentle drizzle here.
22° here, supposedly heading for 28°.
buffy said:
I plan to make this swan curtain. I’ve had the book of patterns for years and years and always said I’d give some of them a go when I had more time. So yesterday I did the 250 chain and the horrible first row where you have to concentrate really hard to pick up the loops. Now the rest of the concentration is in following the chart of blocks and spaces.
Good luck, looks a long job.
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:40.8°C here.
25.2° & gentle drizzle here.
22° here, supposedly heading for 28°.
Monsoon trough not established yet then lots more rain will ensue.
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:25.2° & gentle drizzle here.
22° here, supposedly heading for 28°.
Monsoon trough not established yet then lots more rain will ensue.
Peak Warming Man said:
In Australia a small relatively unheard of inconsequential state causes most fire deaths.
And from that ABC item:
>>John Handmer, from RMIT’s school of science authored the study on Black Saturday deaths and said recent migrants to Australia might be in this category.
“Many of those people have not spent a lot of time in Australia and it’s difficult to expect those people to be really aware of the risk,” he said.<<
We have noticed this phenomenon. Europeans do not understand our Summers. Although more recently some of them may have a better idea. But the idea that you can go out and live in The Bush and expect to be safe seems rather widespread. There simply is not a fire engine for every house, people, and you need to volunteer and help in the community. The CFA is volunteers.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-27/bushfire-history-australia-data-saving-lives/10606144
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
In Australia a small relatively unheard of inconsequential state causes most fire deaths.
And from that ABC item:
>>John Handmer, from RMIT’s school of science authored the study on Black Saturday deaths and said recent migrants to Australia might be in this category.
“Many of those people have not spent a lot of time in Australia and it’s difficult to expect those people to be really aware of the risk,” he said.<<
We have noticed this phenomenon. Europeans do not understand our Summers. Although more recently some of them may have a better idea. But the idea that you can go out and live in The Bush and expect to be safe seems rather widespread. There simply is not a fire engine for every house, people, and you need to volunteer and help in the community. The CFA is volunteers.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-27/bushfire-history-australia-data-saving-lives/10606144
Also the Victorians must allow fuel & hazard reduction burns plus back burning to fight fires.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
In Australia a small relatively unheard of inconsequential state causes most fire deaths.
And from that ABC item:
>>John Handmer, from RMIT’s school of science authored the study on Black Saturday deaths and said recent migrants to Australia might be in this category.
“Many of those people have not spent a lot of time in Australia and it’s difficult to expect those people to be really aware of the risk,” he said.<<
We have noticed this phenomenon. Europeans do not understand our Summers. Although more recently some of them may have a better idea. But the idea that you can go out and live in The Bush and expect to be safe seems rather widespread. There simply is not a fire engine for every house, people, and you need to volunteer and help in the community. The CFA is volunteers.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-27/bushfire-history-australia-data-saving-lives/10606144
The same goes for the awareness that newer immigrants have for our sun our waterways and beaches, our agricultural quarrantine conditions and so on and on and on. Part of the requirement for immigrants should be to be up to speed on all this.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
In Australia a small relatively unheard of inconsequential state causes most fire deaths.
And from that ABC item:
>>John Handmer, from RMIT’s school of science authored the study on Black Saturday deaths and said recent migrants to Australia might be in this category.
“Many of those people have not spent a lot of time in Australia and it’s difficult to expect those people to be really aware of the risk,” he said.<<
We have noticed this phenomenon. Europeans do not understand our Summers. Although more recently some of them may have a better idea. But the idea that you can go out and live in The Bush and expect to be safe seems rather widespread. There simply is not a fire engine for every house, people, and you need to volunteer and help in the community. The CFA is volunteers.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-27/bushfire-history-australia-data-saving-lives/10606144
Councils need to be more proactive about housing regulations in bush-fire prone areas, like its either fireproof with working water sprinklers or you cannot build it.
Tamb said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
In Australia a small relatively unheard of inconsequential state causes most fire deaths.
And from that ABC item:
>>John Handmer, from RMIT’s school of science authored the study on Black Saturday deaths and said recent migrants to Australia might be in this category.
“Many of those people have not spent a lot of time in Australia and it’s difficult to expect those people to be really aware of the risk,” he said.<<
We have noticed this phenomenon. Europeans do not understand our Summers. Although more recently some of them may have a better idea. But the idea that you can go out and live in The Bush and expect to be safe seems rather widespread. There simply is not a fire engine for every house, people, and you need to volunteer and help in the community. The CFA is volunteers.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-27/bushfire-history-australia-data-saving-lives/10606144
Also the Victorians must allow fuel & hazard reduction burns plus back burning to fight fires.
Remembering that the main tree in these areas is Eucalyptus regnans which is geared to burn. It is most of it’s nature.
Tau.Neutrino said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
In Australia a small relatively unheard of inconsequential state causes most fire deaths.
And from that ABC item:
>>John Handmer, from RMIT’s school of science authored the study on Black Saturday deaths and said recent migrants to Australia might be in this category.
“Many of those people have not spent a lot of time in Australia and it’s difficult to expect those people to be really aware of the risk,” he said.<<
We have noticed this phenomenon. Europeans do not understand our Summers. Although more recently some of them may have a better idea. But the idea that you can go out and live in The Bush and expect to be safe seems rather widespread. There simply is not a fire engine for every house, people, and you need to volunteer and help in the community. The CFA is volunteers.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-27/bushfire-history-australia-data-saving-lives/10606144
Councils need to be more proactive about housing regulations in bush-fire prone areas, like its either fireproof with working water sprinklers or you cannot build it.
Yes. Bushfire regs should be akin to cyclone or earthquake regs.
Tamb said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
In Australia a small relatively unheard of inconsequential state causes most fire deaths.
And from that ABC item:
>>John Handmer, from RMIT’s school of science authored the study on Black Saturday deaths and said recent migrants to Australia might be in this category.
“Many of those people have not spent a lot of time in Australia and it’s difficult to expect those people to be really aware of the risk,” he said.<<
We have noticed this phenomenon. Europeans do not understand our Summers. Although more recently some of them may have a better idea. But the idea that you can go out and live in The Bush and expect to be safe seems rather widespread. There simply is not a fire engine for every house, people, and you need to volunteer and help in the community. The CFA is volunteers.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-27/bushfire-history-australia-data-saving-lives/10606144
Also the Victorians must allow fuel & hazard reduction burns plus back burning to fight fires.
A bit does go on, but much more could be done.
Native animals suffer a lot, so it would be good to see some pre-planning for them as well.
Peak Warming Man said:
Shopping List.
1. Popular Cola
B. Fresh bread.
C. Oranges
IV. Milk.
And half a cooked chook.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tamb said:
buffy said:And from that ABC item:
>>John Handmer, from RMIT’s school of science authored the study on Black Saturday deaths and said recent migrants to Australia might be in this category.
“Many of those people have not spent a lot of time in Australia and it’s difficult to expect those people to be really aware of the risk,” he said.<<
We have noticed this phenomenon. Europeans do not understand our Summers. Although more recently some of them may have a better idea. But the idea that you can go out and live in The Bush and expect to be safe seems rather widespread. There simply is not a fire engine for every house, people, and you need to volunteer and help in the community. The CFA is volunteers.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-27/bushfire-history-australia-data-saving-lives/10606144
Also the Victorians must allow fuel & hazard reduction burns plus back burning to fight fires.
A bit does go on, but much more could be done.
Native animals suffer a lot, so it would be good to see some pre-planning for them as well.
It is an old aboriginal custom to burn smaller fires when the majority is green and in cool conditions. The animals that run, tend to make it into the cooking fires.
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
buffy said:And from that ABC item:
>>John Handmer, from RMIT’s school of science authored the study on Black Saturday deaths and said recent migrants to Australia might be in this category.
“Many of those people have not spent a lot of time in Australia and it’s difficult to expect those people to be really aware of the risk,” he said.<<
We have noticed this phenomenon. Europeans do not understand our Summers. Although more recently some of them may have a better idea. But the idea that you can go out and live in The Bush and expect to be safe seems rather widespread. There simply is not a fire engine for every house, people, and you need to volunteer and help in the community. The CFA is volunteers.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-27/bushfire-history-australia-data-saving-lives/10606144
Councils need to be more proactive about housing regulations in bush-fire prone areas, like its either fireproof with working water sprinklers or you cannot build it.
Yes. Bushfire regs should be akin to cyclone or earthquake regs.
I think you will find they largely are now. After 1939 in Victoria people learned a few things. After Ash Wednesday there was a lot of research. But then there weren’t any really big fires again and the populace got complacent. Then 2009 happened. And there was more research and investigation. And things have been changed somewhat. But we are forgetting again. On St Patrick’s day this year we could not convince our next door neighbour that there was danger. Despite being able to see the glow 10km out of town. “I’m in a town! I live in a stone house!”
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Shopping List.
1. Popular Cola
B. Fresh bread.
C. Oranges
IV. Milk.
And half a cooked chook.
Thankfully, I never have to buy oranges.
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
buffy said:And from that ABC item:
>>John Handmer, from RMIT’s school of science authored the study on Black Saturday deaths and said recent migrants to Australia might be in this category.
“Many of those people have not spent a lot of time in Australia and it’s difficult to expect those people to be really aware of the risk,” he said.<<
We have noticed this phenomenon. Europeans do not understand our Summers. Although more recently some of them may have a better idea. But the idea that you can go out and live in The Bush and expect to be safe seems rather widespread. There simply is not a fire engine for every house, people, and you need to volunteer and help in the community. The CFA is volunteers.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-27/bushfire-history-australia-data-saving-lives/10606144
Councils need to be more proactive about housing regulations in bush-fire prone areas, like its either fireproof with working water sprinklers or you cannot build it.
Yes. Bushfire regs should be akin to cyclone or earthquake regs.
I have seen numerous cases of tree change people newly arrived from the cities plant highly flammable bushes right up against their houses.
It makes effective fire fighting almost impossible.
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tamb said:Also the Victorians must allow fuel & hazard reduction burns plus back burning to fight fires.
A bit does go on, but much more could be done.
Native animals suffer a lot, so it would be good to see some pre-planning for them as well.
It is an old aboriginal custom to burn smaller fires when the majority is green and in cool conditions. The animals that run, tend to make it into the cooking fires.
I understand around here the burning was done in Autumn, after the first frost. Because the frost dried out the grass, or something.
Tamb said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
In Australia a small relatively unheard of inconsequential state causes most fire deaths.
And from that ABC item:
>>John Handmer, from RMIT’s school of science authored the study on Black Saturday deaths and said recent migrants to Australia might be in this category.
“Many of those people have not spent a lot of time in Australia and it’s difficult to expect those people to be really aware of the risk,” he said.<<
We have noticed this phenomenon. Europeans do not understand our Summers. Although more recently some of them may have a better idea. But the idea that you can go out and live in The Bush and expect to be safe seems rather widespread. There simply is not a fire engine for every house, people, and you need to volunteer and help in the community. The CFA is volunteers.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-27/bushfire-history-australia-data-saving-lives/10606144
Also the Victorians must allow fuel & hazard reduction burns plus back burning to fight fires.
They need to employ Scandinavians on 457s to rake up the forest litter.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tamb said:
buffy said:And from that ABC item:
>>John Handmer, from RMIT’s school of science authored the study on Black Saturday deaths and said recent migrants to Australia might be in this category.
“Many of those people have not spent a lot of time in Australia and it’s difficult to expect those people to be really aware of the risk,” he said.<<
We have noticed this phenomenon. Europeans do not understand our Summers. Although more recently some of them may have a better idea. But the idea that you can go out and live in The Bush and expect to be safe seems rather widespread. There simply is not a fire engine for every house, people, and you need to volunteer and help in the community. The CFA is volunteers.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-27/bushfire-history-australia-data-saving-lives/10606144
Also the Victorians must allow fuel & hazard reduction burns plus back burning to fight fires.
A bit does go on, but much more could be done.
Native animals suffer a lot, so it would be good to see some pre-planning for them as well.
Slow, low cool burns can be carried out with a bit of planning & expertise.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Councils need to be more proactive about housing regulations in bush-fire prone areas, like its either fireproof with working water sprinklers or you cannot build it.
Yes. Bushfire regs should be akin to cyclone or earthquake regs.
I have seen numerous cases of tree change people newly arrived from the cities plant highly flammable bushes right up against their houses.
It makes effective fire fighting almost impossible.
Tamb…do your firies refuse some driveways? I’m pretty sure around here you can be told that they will not bring the truck in if the driveway is unsafe. (I may have dreamed that…)
One of my patients only made it out of the Canberra fires because a news crew drove up the street and picked her up. I am seeing her this coming week. She still comes to see me when she is in this district visiting relatives. They moved from here in part to get off the farm and away from grassfire territory. And moved straight into the Canberra inferno. She gave me a pretty hectic description of her experience.
buffy said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:Yes. Bushfire regs should be akin to cyclone or earthquake regs.
I have seen numerous cases of tree change people newly arrived from the cities plant highly flammable bushes right up against their houses.
It makes effective fire fighting almost impossible.
Tamb…do your firies refuse some driveways? I’m pretty sure around here you can be told that they will not bring the truck in if the driveway is unsafe. (I may have dreamed that…)
We have occasionally refused to take a fire truck up a driveway if there is a real danger of being trapped with no other way out.
PermeateFree said:
ChrispenEvan said:
Michael V said:Magnets?
magnet and copper block.
https://www.iflscience.com/physics/what-happens-when-you-drop-magnet-through-copper-tube/
Interesting, are there any commercial applications?
I’m reasonably sure that we have been using those for years.
Coincidentally, I put out the fire buckets on the verandah this morning.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Councils need to be more proactive about housing regulations in bush-fire prone areas, like its either fireproof with working water sprinklers or you cannot build it.
Yes. Bushfire regs should be akin to cyclone or earthquake regs.
I think you will find they largely are now. After 1939 in Victoria people learned a few things. After Ash Wednesday there was a lot of research. But then there weren’t any really big fires again and the populace got complacent. Then 2009 happened. And there was more research and investigation. And things have been changed somewhat. But we are forgetting again. On St Patrick’s day this year we could not convince our next door neighbour that there was danger. Despite being able to see the glow 10km out of town. “I’m in a town! I live in a stone house!”
Yes. If they hadn’t been implemented beforehand, the 2009 fires would have reminded those who cntemplate such things.
Tamb said:
buffy said:
Tamb said:I have seen numerous cases of tree change people newly arrived from the cities plant highly flammable bushes right up against their houses.
It makes effective fire fighting almost impossible.
Tamb…do your firies refuse some driveways? I’m pretty sure around here you can be told that they will not bring the truck in if the driveway is unsafe. (I may have dreamed that…)
We have occasionally refused to take a fire truck up a driveway if there is a real danger of being trapped with no other way out.
This is what I thought it was. But in the preparing, I think they check out local places that might be a problem and warn the inhabitants that they will be on their own.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:A bit does go on, but much more could be done.
Native animals suffer a lot, so it would be good to see some pre-planning for them as well.
It is an old aboriginal custom to burn smaller fires when the majority is green and in cool conditions. The animals that run, tend to make it into the cooking fires.
I understand around here the burning was done in Autumn, after the first frost. Because the frost dried out the grass, or something.
That makes sense, yes.
ruby said:
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:I will miss you here.
I hope it isn’t my remiss. I like Kii.
I like Kii and like reading her input.
Me too, but if she’s decided that posting here isn’t doing her any good, she presumably has her reasons.
Stepping back from the internets can be a good idea at times.
buffy said:
Tamb said:
buffy said:Tamb…do your firies refuse some driveways? I’m pretty sure around here you can be told that they will not bring the truck in if the driveway is unsafe. (I may have dreamed that…)
We have occasionally refused to take a fire truck up a driveway if there is a real danger of being trapped with no other way out.
This is what I thought it was. But in the preparing, I think they check out local places that might be a problem and warn the inhabitants that they will be on their own.
Yes. They certainly do iinspections and give warnings. However, it is rare and far between in years.
buffy said:
Coincidentally, I put out the fire buckets on the verandah this morning.
Were they burning? ;)
Bubblecar said:
ruby said:
sarahs mum said:I hope it isn’t my remiss. I like Kii.
I like Kii and like reading her input.
Me too, but if she’s decided that posting here isn’t doing her any good, she presumably has her reasons.
Stepping back from the internets can be a good idea at times.
I like kii too and yes stepping away for a bit is often a healing process.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
ruby said:I like Kii and like reading her input.
Me too, but if she’s decided that posting here isn’t doing her any good, she presumably has her reasons.
Stepping back from the internets can be a good idea at times.
I like kii too and yes stepping away for a bit is often a healing process.
I also like kii & will miss her posts. Let’s hope she achieves her aim quickly.
I acquired a submersible pump at Christmas, good for dropping into the water tank.
It augments my petrol fire pump.
Peak Warming Man said:
I acquired a submersible pump at Christmas, good for dropping into the water tank.
It augments my petrol fire pump.
Kewl.
Peak Warming Man said:
I acquired a submersible pump at Christmas, good for dropping into the water tank.
It augments my petrol fire pump.
Not much of a bushfire danger in this area. It’s largely cleared farmland.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I acquired a submersible pump at Christmas, good for dropping into the water tank.
It augments my petrol fire pump.
Not much of a bushfire danger in this area. It’s largely cleared farmland.
The place for extremely fast moving grass fires. Never assume you are safe from this threat.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I acquired a submersible pump at Christmas, good for dropping into the water tank.
It augments my petrol fire pump.
Not much of a bushfire danger in this area. It’s largely cleared farmland.
The place for extremely fast moving grass fires. Never assume you are safe from this threat.
There’s the occasional grass fire outside the village but they rarely spread far.
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:Not much of a bushfire danger in this area. It’s largely cleared farmland.
The place for extremely fast moving grass fires. Never assume you are safe from this threat.
There’s the occasional grass fire outside the village but they rarely spread far.
You have never witnessed how fearsome they can be then. I’ve seen them with a 200 km firefront.
buffy said:
Tamb said:
buffy said:Tamb…do your firies refuse some driveways? I’m pretty sure around here you can be told that they will not bring the truck in if the driveway is unsafe. (I may have dreamed that…)
We have occasionally refused to take a fire truck up a driveway if there is a real danger of being trapped with no other way out.
This is what I thought it was. But in the preparing, I think they check out local places that might be a problem and warn the inhabitants that they will be on their own.
One of my brothers is on a property up near Woodend, and when he applied for a permit for a new house on the property the local CFA came around and gave him the rules on how wide his driveway was required to be and what turn around area was needed at the end of it. It wasn’t a request – no compliance – no permit.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:The place for extremely fast moving grass fires. Never assume you are safe from this threat.
There’s the occasional grass fire outside the village but they rarely spread far.
You have never witnessed how fearsome they can be then. I’ve seen them with a 200 km firefront.
As I said, that sort of thing is unlikely around here :)
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:There’s the occasional grass fire outside the village but they rarely spread far.
You have never witnessed how fearsome they can be then. I’ve seen them with a 200 km firefront.
As I said, that sort of thing is unlikely around here :)
Might be a good reason to live there then.
This was a grass fire to remember.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:You have never witnessed how fearsome they can be then. I’ve seen them with a 200 km firefront.
As I said, that sort of thing is unlikely around here :)
Might be a good reason to live there then.
This was a grass fire to remember.
Like from Balranald to Cobar.
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I acquired a submersible pump at Christmas, good for dropping into the water tank.
It augments my petrol fire pump.
Kewl.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I acquired a submersible pump at Christmas, good for dropping into the water tank.
It augments my petrol fire pump.
Not much of a bushfire danger in this area. It’s largely cleared farmland.
The place for extremely fast moving grass fires. Never assume you are safe from this threat.
Lots of ground hugging smoke from big grass fires.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:Not much of a bushfire danger in this area. It’s largely cleared farmland.
The place for extremely fast moving grass fires. Never assume you are safe from this threat.
Lots of ground hugging smoke from big grass fires.
Went off the air for a while.
Genuine tropical rain cut the signal to the satellite.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I acquired a submersible pump at Christmas, good for dropping into the water tank.
It augments my petrol fire pump.
Kewl.
Petrol or electric?
lectric
buffy said:
I plan to make this swan curtain. I’ve had the book of patterns for years and years and always said I’d give some of them a go when I had more time. So yesterday I did the 250 chain and the horrible first row where you have to concentrate really hard to pick up the loops. Now the rest of the concentration is in following the chart of blocks and spaces.
That looks like a commitment.
buffy said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:Yes. Bushfire regs should be akin to cyclone or earthquake regs.
I have seen numerous cases of tree change people newly arrived from the cities plant highly flammable bushes right up against their houses.
It makes effective fire fighting almost impossible.
Tamb…do your firies refuse some driveways? I’m pretty sure around here you can be told that they will not bring the truck in if the driveway is unsafe. (I may have dreamed that…)
I know of one of those driveways. And he could fix it. But he likes it that way.
Family portrait

This might be interesting this evening. SBS1.
Waco: The Longest Siege
Thursday, 27 Dec
8:30 PM – 9:30 PM
m
Waco: The Longest Siege uncovers the unexplored stories of those directly involved in the longest stand-off in American history. On the 25th anniversary of the great tragedy, this documentary special tells the never-before-heard stories surrounding the rise of 25-year-old self-appointed Messiah, David Koresh from obscurity to prophet, and finally to leader of the Branch Davidian sect in West Texas.
PermeateFree said:
Family portrait
from roughbarked;

roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:
Family portrait
from roughbarked;
purdie birdies.
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:
Family portrait
from roughbarked;

buffy said:
This might be interesting this evening. SBS1.Waco: The Longest Siege
Thursday, 27 Dec
8:30 PM – 9:30 PM
m
Waco: The Longest Siege uncovers the unexplored stories of those directly involved in the longest stand-off in American history. On the 25th anniversary of the great tragedy, this documentary special tells the never-before-heard stories surrounding the rise of 25-year-old self-appointed Messiah, David Koresh from obscurity to prophet, and finally to leader of the Branch Davidian sect in West Texas.
I shall probably give it a miss.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:
Family portrait
from roughbarked;
and since some of you expect me to brag, I planted the trees and they came. ;)
party_pants said:
buffy said:
This might be interesting this evening. SBS1.Waco: The Longest Siege
Thursday, 27 Dec
8:30 PM – 9:30 PM
m
Waco: The Longest Siege uncovers the unexplored stories of those directly involved in the longest stand-off in American history. On the 25th anniversary of the great tragedy, this documentary special tells the never-before-heard stories surrounding the rise of 25-year-old self-appointed Messiah, David Koresh from obscurity to prophet, and finally to leader of the Branch Davidian sect in West Texas.
I shall probably give it a miss.
I’m definitely one of those who is not going to bother.
party_pants said:
buffy said:
This might be interesting this evening. SBS1.Waco: The Longest Siege
Thursday, 27 Dec
8:30 PM – 9:30 PM
m
Waco: The Longest Siege uncovers the unexplored stories of those directly involved in the longest stand-off in American history. On the 25th anniversary of the great tragedy, this documentary special tells the never-before-heard stories surrounding the rise of 25-year-old self-appointed Messiah, David Koresh from obscurity to prophet, and finally to leader of the Branch Davidian sect in West Texas.
I shall probably give it a miss.
The mini-series was on a few weeks ago.
Woodie said:
party_pants said:
buffy said:
This might be interesting this evening. SBS1.Waco: The Longest Siege
Thursday, 27 Dec
8:30 PM – 9:30 PM
m
Waco: The Longest Siege uncovers the unexplored stories of those directly involved in the longest stand-off in American history. On the 25th anniversary of the great tragedy, this documentary special tells the never-before-heard stories surrounding the rise of 25-year-old self-appointed Messiah, David Koresh from obscurity to prophet, and finally to leader of the Branch Davidian sect in West Texas.
I shall probably give it a miss.
The mini-series was on a few weeks ago.
Gave that a miss as well.
FFs. It was shown to us back then. No need to rehash anythng.
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:
Family portrait
from roughbarked;
Those are some really weird and roughbarked looking branches in the foreground of that picture.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:
Family portrait
from roughbarked;
The one at the front looks like Tawny and the one at the back looks like Frogmouth.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:
Family portrait
from roughbarked;
Those are some really weird and roughbarked looking branches in the foreground of that picture.
:) the idea was to catch the camo effect. :)
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:
party_pants said:I shall probably give it a miss.
The mini-series was on a few weeks ago.
Gave that a miss as well.
FFs. It was shown to us back then. No need to rehash anythng.
But but but but………………. there’s never before revealed secrets.😮
Peak Warming Man said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:from roughbarked;
The one at the front looks like Tawny and the one at the back looks like Frogmouth.
I’ve got another shot somewhere of all five of the family. Not quite as dramatic though as I had to take a few steps backwards to fit them all in.
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:The mini-series was on a few weeks ago.
Gave that a miss as well.
FFs. It was shown to us back then. No need to rehash anythng.
But but but but………………. there’s never before revealed secrets.😮
BS. ;)
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:
roughbarked said:
The one at the front looks like Tawny and the one at the back looks like Frogmouth.
I’ve got another shot somewhere of all five of the family. Not quite as dramatic though as I had to take a few steps backwards to fit them all in.
Yeah I hate that, you take a few steps back and next thing you know you’re tat the bottom of a cliff in Portugal.
Woodie said:
party_pants said:
buffy said:
This might be interesting this evening. SBS1.Waco: The Longest Siege
Thursday, 27 Dec
8:30 PM – 9:30 PM
m
Waco: The Longest Siege uncovers the unexplored stories of those directly involved in the longest stand-off in American history. On the 25th anniversary of the great tragedy, this documentary special tells the never-before-heard stories surrounding the rise of 25-year-old self-appointed Messiah, David Koresh from obscurity to prophet, and finally to leader of the Branch Davidian sect in West Texas.
I shall probably give it a miss.
The mini-series was on a few weeks ago.
I never watch dramatisations. I’ll always just go the documentary version of any major event, get the gist of the events and motivations, with some expert analysis etc. Having the story acted out is just tedious. I have never watch any Titanic movies, for example. But I have watched heaps of docos about it, especially the expeditions to find the wreck.
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:
roughbarked said:
The one at the front looks like Tawny and the one at the back looks like Frogmouth.
I’ve got another shot somewhere of all five of the family. Not quite as dramatic though as I had to take a few steps backwards to fit them all in.
Largely because though the third baby was close enough to mum and siblings, dad was in the tree in the background.

Peak Warming Man said:
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:The one at the front looks like Tawny and the one at the back looks like Frogmouth.
I’ve got another shot somewhere of all five of the family. Not quite as dramatic though as I had to take a few steps backwards to fit them all in.
Yeah I hate that, you take a few steps back and next thing you know you’re tat the bottom of a cliff in Portugal.
I’ve watched other people do that, yeah.
Marianne Faithfull’s version of Scarborough Fair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0IiPwwdw4I
Bubblecar said:
Marianne Faithfull’s version of Scarborough Fairhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0IiPwwdw4I
she was good in her day.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Marianne Faithfull’s version of Scarborough Fairhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0IiPwwdw4I
she was good in her day.
Still lurking:)
gaghalfrunt said:
Still lurking:)
Ta. Ditto. ;)
Ill let you know when im not.
gaghalfrunt said:
Ill let you know when im not.
Ill let you know when im not.
In breaking news.
The annual meeting of the Apathy Society has been cancelled due to lack of interest.
Tamb said:
In breaking news.
The annual meeting of the Apathy Society has been cancelled due to lack of interest.
I wasn’t actually looking forward to that.
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
In breaking news.
The annual meeting of the Apathy Society has been cancelled due to lack of interest.
I wasn’t actually looking forward to that.
I don’t care.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
In breaking news.
The annual meeting of the Apathy Society has been cancelled due to lack of interest.
I wasn’t actually looking forward to that.
I don’t care.
Do yo think that matters a shit?
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:I wasn’t actually looking forward to that.
I don’t care.
Do yo think that matters a shit?
To someone possibl, but not to me.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:I don’t care.
Do yo think that matters a shit?
To someone possibl, but not to me.
It matters not.
It has cooled down to
41.6°C
Feels like 38.4°C
If it feels cooler I can go out and start watering?
roughbarked said:
It has cooled down to
41.6°C
Feels like 38.4°CIf it feels cooler I can go out and start watering?
Oh no. what to do?
41.3°C
Feels like 37.9°C
Fine music for post-Boxing-Day drunkenness:
Orkestina: “Transilvania Express”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJaWRIkW4q0
Bubblecar said:
Marianne Faithfull’s version of Scarborough Fairhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0IiPwwdw4I
Released in 1965 (or so the Internet tells me).
Goodness knows how I missed that.
Excellent version.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:
Marianne Faithfull’s version of Scarborough Fairhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0IiPwwdw4I
Released in 1965 (or so the Internet tells me).
Goodness knows how I missed that.
Excellent version.
She did some fine folk singing on her early records.
Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:
Marianne Faithfull’s version of Scarborough Fairhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0IiPwwdw4I
Released in 1965 (or so the Internet tells me).
Goodness knows how I missed that.
Excellent version.
She did some fine folk singing on her early records.
Well in ’65 I would have been 14, and still dismissing “folk music” as the crap they made us sing in primary school music classes, so perhaps just as well I didn’t notice it then.
Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:
Marianne Faithfull’s version of Scarborough Fairhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0IiPwwdw4I
Released in 1965 (or so the Internet tells me).
Goodness knows how I missed that.
Excellent version.
She did some fine folk singing on her early records.
She’s still alive, lead a rough life in patches.
Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:
Marianne Faithfull’s version of Scarborough Fairhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0IiPwwdw4I
Released in 1965 (or so the Internet tells me).
Goodness knows how I missed that.
Excellent version.
She did some fine folk singing on her early records.
Indeed.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Released in 1965 (or so the Internet tells me).
Goodness knows how I missed that.
Excellent version.
She did some fine folk singing on her early records.
Well in ’65 I would have been 14, and still dismissing “folk music” as the crap they made us sing in primary school music classes, so perhaps just as well I didn’t notice it then.
I would have been 12 but I was already well steeped in Celtic musical history.

This is an absolute classic but you’ve got to watch it through to the end.
Peak Warming Man said:
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This is an absolute classic but you’ve got to watch it through to the end.
The eternal cauliflower.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
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This is an absolute classic but you’ve got to watch it through to the end.
The eternal cauliflower.
To hell with mild-mannered decorum, good taste and propriety – I’m off to the BWS to obtain another bottle of seasonal bubbly.
Bubblecar said:
To hell with mild-mannered decorum, good taste and propriety – I’m off to the BWS to obtain another bottle of seasonal bubbly.
Which leads me to believe that you have exhausted the stocks at hand?
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
To hell with mild-mannered decorum, good taste and propriety – I’m off to the BWS to obtain another bottle of seasonal bubbly.
Which leads me to believe that you have exhausted the stocks at hand?
There’s still most of a bottle of sauv blanc left, but that’s all.
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:She did some fine folk singing on her early records.
Well in ’65 I would have been 14, and still dismissing “folk music” as the crap they made us sing in primary school music classes, so perhaps just as well I didn’t notice it then.
I would have been 12 but I was already well steeped in Celtic musical history.
Watch out buddy… I have an eye on you!
Witty Rejoinder said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Well in ’65 I would have been 14, and still dismissing “folk music” as the crap they made us sing in primary school music classes, so perhaps just as well I didn’t notice it then.
I would have been 12 but I was already well steeped in Celtic musical history.
Watch out buddy… I have an eye on you!
not willing to bet more?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Released in 1965 (or so the Internet tells me).
Goodness knows how I missed that.
Excellent version.
She did some fine folk singing on her early records.
Well in ’65 I would have been 14, and still dismissing “folk music” as the crap they made us sing in primary school music classes, so perhaps just as well I didn’t notice it then.
…. and did you do folk dancing to your folk music? We did.
Woodie said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:She did some fine folk singing on her early records.
Well in ’65 I would have been 14, and still dismissing “folk music” as the crap they made us sing in primary school music classes, so perhaps just as well I didn’t notice it then.
…. and did you do folk dancing to your folk music? We did.
Only when there was no way to avoid it :)
Peak Warming Man said:
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This is an absolute classic but you’ve got to watch it through to the end.
I’m up to 26 minutes so far, Mr Man. How much longer?
Woodie said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:She did some fine folk singing on her early records.
Well in ’65 I would have been 14, and still dismissing “folk music” as the crap they made us sing in primary school music classes, so perhaps just as well I didn’t notice it then.
…. and did you do folk dancing to your folk music? We did.
Well I did, anyway.
Just realised this forum is populated by old farts. (Only taken me 15 or so years to work it out).
The Rev Dodgson said:
Woodie said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Well in ’65 I would have been 14, and still dismissing “folk music” as the crap they made us sing in primary school music classes, so perhaps just as well I didn’t notice it then.
…. and did you do folk dancing to your folk music? We did.
Only when there was no way to avoid it :)
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:
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This is an absolute classic but you’ve got to watch it through to the end.
I’m up to 26 minutes so far, Mr Man. How much longer?
The clue is in flower.
gaghalfrunt said:
Just realised this forum is populated by old farts. (Only taken me 15 or so years to work it out).
So most of your farts could be older than that?
oops! only sposed to be lurking, I’ve been caught out.
A principal component of my evening meal.
gaghalfrunt said:
oops! only sposed to be lurking, I’ve been caught out.
Gotta watch that move. Gunnback in holster, hand free.
Bubblecar said:
To hell with mild-mannered decorum, good taste and propriety – I’m off to the BWS to obtain another bottle of seasonal bubbly.
I got quite tipsy last night on some gin and creme de menthe. I liked the Rekorderlig cider cocktails but the toffee apple cider is a bit weird.
Mum’s throwing a hissy fit and not talking to either my sister nor myself. We have no idea why she’s upset with us.
Divine Angel said:
Bubblecar said:
To hell with mild-mannered decorum, good taste and propriety – I’m off to the BWS to obtain another bottle of seasonal bubbly.
I got quite tipsy last night on some gin and creme de menthe. I liked the Rekorderlig cider cocktails but the toffee apple cider is a bit weird.
Mum’s throwing a hissy fit and not talking to either my sister nor myself. We have no idea why she’s upset with us.
Sorry about the Mum behaviour but good to hear you enjoyed your gin & cider.
Did the Mini-Me enjoy her Christmas?
Thinking I might make another pie tonight, but with chicken instead of turkey and taters & carrots instead of parsnips & carrots.
Bubblecar said:
Thinking I might make another pie tonight, but with chicken instead of turkey and taters & carrots instead of parsnips & carrots.
it is only fowl carratates.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Thinking I might make another pie tonight, but with chicken instead of turkey and taters & carrots instead of parsnips & carrots.it is only fowl carratates.
Pork chop & Indonesian rice here.
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:
Bubblecar said:
To hell with mild-mannered decorum, good taste and propriety – I’m off to the BWS to obtain another bottle of seasonal bubbly.
I got quite tipsy last night on some gin and creme de menthe. I liked the Rekorderlig cider cocktails but the toffee apple cider is a bit weird.
Mum’s throwing a hissy fit and not talking to either my sister nor myself. We have no idea why she’s upset with us.
Sorry about the Mum behaviour but good to hear you enjoyed your gin & cider.
Did the Mini-Me enjoy her Christmas?
She sure did. She was adorable on Xmas eve, cleaning up the lounge room so Santa wouldn’t trip over her toys. She likes her presents. Was pretty good at dad’s place for Xmas 2.
Divine Angel said:
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:I got quite tipsy last night on some gin and creme de menthe. I liked the Rekorderlig cider cocktails but the toffee apple cider is a bit weird.
Mum’s throwing a hissy fit and not talking to either my sister nor myself. We have no idea why she’s upset with us.
Sorry about the Mum behaviour but good to hear you enjoyed your gin & cider.
Did the Mini-Me enjoy her Christmas?
She sure did. She was adorable on Xmas eve, cleaning up the lounge room so Santa wouldn’t trip over her toys. She likes her presents. Was pretty good at dad’s place for Xmas 2.
Lovely :)
Bubblecar said:
Thinking I might make another pie tonight, but with chicken instead of turkey and taters & carrots instead of parsnips & carrots.
Actually there’s still half a parsnip left as well, so no shortage of pleasing roots in this pie.
I’ve just been reading about the Cotard delusion, in which the sufferer believes he or she is already dead.
People are weird.
Bubblecar said:
Thinking I might make another pie tonight, but with chicken instead of turkey and taters & carrots instead of parsnips & carrots.
Another night of leftovers for me.
btm said:
I’ve just been reading about the Cotard delusion, in which the sufferer believes he or she is already dead.People are weird.
I see dead people.
btm said:
I’ve just been reading about the Cotard delusion, in which the sufferer believes he or she is already dead.People are weird.
My cousin works with actual crazy people. One of his clients believes she is married to Whitney Houston. Whitney is a man, and not dead.
btm said:
I’ve just been reading about the Cotard delusion, in which the sufferer believes he or she is already dead.People are weird.
Brains eh. Can’t trust em.
Ian said:
btm said:
I’ve just been reading about the Cotard delusion, in which the sufferer believes he or she is already dead.People are weird.
Brains eh. Can’t trust em.
one side of my head just isn’t there.
roughbarked said:
Ian said:btm said:
I’ve just been reading about the Cotard delusion, in which the sufferer believes he or she is already dead.People are weird.
Brains eh. Can’t trust em.
one side of my head just isn’t there.
I suffer from chemo brain……………… and hate it.

Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
To hell with mild-mannered decorum, good taste and propriety – I’m off to the BWS to obtain another bottle of seasonal bubbly.
Which leads me to believe that you have exhausted the stocks at hand?
There’s still most of a bottle of sauv blanc left, but that’s all.
I think you might have drunk more booze than I have drunk liquids total.
Nothing special for my first attempt. But I need practice in finding and honing the right techniques.
OK, one drunken chicken pie fully assembled and slammed in the oven in record time.
Should be ready by 7:15.
party_pants said:
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Nothing special for my first attempt. But I need practice in finding and honing the right techniques.
What’s going on there? Turning without a lathe?
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:Which leads me to believe that you have exhausted the stocks at hand?
There’s still most of a bottle of sauv blanc left, but that’s all.
I think you might have drunk more booze than I have drunk liquids total.
Very likely.
But I’m back on the wagon tomorrow, assuming I’m still actually alive :)
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:Nothing special for my first attempt. But I need practice in finding and honing the right techniques.
What’s going on there? Turning without a lathe?
I have a mini lathe.
Bubblecar said:
OK, one drunken chicken pie fully assembled and slammed in the oven in record time.Should be ready by 7:15.
Filling = 2 x hen thighs, cooked & diced, 1 x large Dutch Cream, half a parsnip, 4 x baby carrots, all sliced & cooked, 1 x small onion, 3 x cloves garlic, all chopped and cooked in butter, olive oil, white wine and sour cream along with some fresh tarragon, salt & pepper.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:Nothing special for my first attempt. But I need practice in finding and honing the right techniques.
What’s going on there? Turning without a lathe?
I have a mini lathe.
Jolly good, carry on.
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:What’s going on there? Turning without a lathe?
I have a mini lathe.
Jolly good, carry on.
Actually I have just packed up, and was going to sit down with a light snack and open a beer..
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:I have a mini lathe.
Jolly good, carry on.
Actually I have just packed up, and was going to sit down with a light snack and open a beer..
Cheers.

Tom Tengu
Like This Page · 9 hrs ·
Heaps of people think I’m completely making up this ‘Australia Must Leave the EU!’ insanity. Well. Look at this. This was a real poll conducted in the far-right Make Victoria Safe Again group.
Australians, these are your neighbours and countryfolk.
sarahs mum said:
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Tom Tengu
Like This Page · 9 hrs ·Heaps of people think I’m completely making up this ‘Australia Must Leave the EU!’ insanity. Well. Look at this. This was a real poll conducted in the far-right Make Victoria Safe Again group.
Australians, these are your neighbours and countryfolk.
They’re not terribly bright.
John Mcdowall
2 hrs ·
We would like all of Dad’s friends to know that he passed away peacefully at Kyogle Hospital on Christmas Day. It is comforting to know he is no longer suffering. Dad loved living in Kyogle, and thankfully he remained at home until just a few days before he died. We want to thank all those people who provided him with company and support during the hard times.
We have found a document on his computer ‘When I Die’ that has some very fitting words
‘When I die
Give what’s left of me away
To children
And old men that wait to die.
And if you need to cry,
Cry for your brother
Walking the street beside you
And when you need me,
Put your arms
Around anyone
And give to them
What you need to give to me.
I want to leave you something,
Something better
Than words
Or sounds.
Look for me
In the people I’ve known
Or loved,
And if you cannot give me away,
At least let me live in your eyes
And not on your mind.
You can love me most
By letting
Hands touch hands
By letting
Bodies touch bodies
And by letting go
Of children
That need to be free.
Love doesn’t die,
People do.
So, when all that’s left of me
Is love,
Give me away’
A funeral service will be held at Kyogle Uniting Church at 1:30pm on the 2nd of January, followed by a wake back at his home. All welcome to attend
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-27/penny-cook-a-country-practice-actor-dies-aged-61/10670110
sarahs mum said:
John Mcdowall
2 hrs ·We would like all of Dad’s friends to know that he passed away peacefully at Kyogle Hospital on Christmas Day. It is comforting to know he is no longer suffering. Dad loved living in Kyogle, and thankfully he remained at home until just a few days before he died. We want to thank all those people who provided him with company and support during the hard times.
We have found a document on his computer ‘When I Die’ that has some very fitting words
‘When I die
Give what’s left of me away
To children
And old men that wait to die.And if you need to cry,
Cry for your brother
Walking the street beside youAnd when you need me,
Put your arms
Around anyone
And give to them
What you need to give to me.I want to leave you something,
Something better
Than words
Or sounds.Look for me
In the people I’ve known
Or loved,
And if you cannot give me away,
At least let me live in your eyes
And not on your mind.You can love me most
By letting
Hands touch hands
By letting
Bodies touch bodies
And by letting go
Of children
That need to be free.Love doesn’t die,
People do.
So, when all that’s left of me
Is love,
Give me away’A funeral service will be held at Kyogle Uniting Church at 1:30pm on the 2nd of January, followed by a wake back at his home. All welcome to attend
That’s a good poem. Seems to be by an American poet called Merrit Malloy.
sarahs mum said:
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Tom Tengu
Like This Page · 9 hrs ·Heaps of people think I’m completely making up this ‘Australia Must Leave the EU!’ insanity. Well. Look at this. This was a real poll conducted in the far-right Make Victoria Safe Again group.
Australians, these are your neighbours and countryfolk.
Oh, come on, it’s a pisstake.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
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Tom Tengu
Like This Page · 9 hrs ·Heaps of people think I’m completely making up this ‘Australia Must Leave the EU!’ insanity. Well. Look at this. This was a real poll conducted in the far-right Make Victoria Safe Again group.
Australians, these are your neighbours and countryfolk.
Oh, come on, it’s a pisstake.
Hard to tell these days.
Your name is Morris Moss, is it not?
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
John Mcdowall
2 hrs ·We would like all of Dad’s friends to know that he passed away peacefully at Kyogle Hospital on Christmas Day. It is comforting to know he is no longer suffering. Dad loved living in Kyogle, and thankfully he remained at home until just a few days before he died. We want to thank all those people who provided him with company and support during the hard times.
We have found a document on his computer ‘When I Die’ that has some very fitting words
‘When I die
Give what’s left of me away
To children
And old men that wait to die.And if you need to cry,
Cry for your brother
Walking the street beside youAnd when you need me,
Put your arms
Around anyone
And give to them
What you need to give to me.I want to leave you something,
Something better
Than words
Or sounds.Look for me
In the people I’ve known
Or loved,
And if you cannot give me away,
At least let me live in your eyes
And not on your mind.You can love me most
By letting
Hands touch hands
By letting
Bodies touch bodies
And by letting go
Of children
That need to be free.Love doesn’t die,
People do.
So, when all that’s left of me
Is love,
Give me away’A funeral service will be held at Kyogle Uniting Church at 1:30pm on the 2nd of January, followed by a wake back at his home. All welcome to attend
That’s a good poem. Seems to be by an American poet called Merrit Malloy.
It is a good poem. But I don’t have someone to throw my arms around. And I am still teary.
The leftover duck from Tuesday has been consumed with veggies and noodles in a stir fry. Not bad at all. Flavoured with hoisin and sweet soy, ginger and Chinese 5 spice.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
John Mcdowall
2 hrs ·We would like all of Dad’s friends to know that he passed away peacefully at Kyogle Hospital on Christmas Day. It is comforting to know he is no longer suffering. Dad loved living in Kyogle, and thankfully he remained at home until just a few days before he died. We want to thank all those people who provided him with company and support during the hard times.
We have found a document on his computer ‘When I Die’ that has some very fitting words
‘When I die
Give what’s left of me away
To children
And old men that wait to die.And if you need to cry,
Cry for your brother
Walking the street beside youAnd when you need me,
Put your arms
Around anyone
And give to them
What you need to give to me.I want to leave you something,
Something better
Than words
Or sounds.Look for me
In the people I’ve known
Or loved,
And if you cannot give me away,
At least let me live in your eyes
And not on your mind.You can love me most
By letting
Hands touch hands
By letting
Bodies touch bodies
And by letting go
Of children
That need to be free.Love doesn’t die,
People do.
So, when all that’s left of me
Is love,
Give me away’A funeral service will be held at Kyogle Uniting Church at 1:30pm on the 2nd of January, followed by a wake back at his home. All welcome to attend
That’s a good poem. Seems to be by an American poet called Merrit Malloy.
It is a good poem. But I don’t have someone to throw my arms around. And I am still teary.
electronic hugs for sarahs mum
Drunken chicken pie, quite a bit bigger than the turkey pies made for Xmas.
By putting a hole in a net, you decrease the number of holes
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
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Tom Tengu
Like This Page · 9 hrs ·Heaps of people think I’m completely making up this ‘Australia Must Leave the EU!’ insanity. Well. Look at this. This was a real poll conducted in the far-right Make Victoria Safe Again group.
Australians, these are your neighbours and countryfolk.
Oh, come on, it’s a pisstake.
Hard to tell these days.
It is.
There was a news item shared on FB about Bill Shorte s plan to boost public housing. Some of the comments were so barmy that you might think they were taking the piss… but not quite. Eg “Shorten = Soros puppet” and “what a waste of money, why not do something for the homeless”.
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:Oh, come on, it’s a pisstake.
Hard to tell these days.
It is.
There was a news item shared on FB about Bill Shorte s plan to boost public housing. Some of the comments were so barmy that you might think they were taking the piss… but not quite. Eg “Shorten = Soros puppet” and “what a waste of money, why not do something for the homeless”.
Maybe the homeless have standards. Public housing?… pffff!
I think I will watch that doco on SBS tonight, regardless of what you lot say. They were a very weird mob of people. I’ve never really bothered to read the details.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege
I’ll be in till Monday. Not sure how much more of Panzer General I can take. After I get out a new iPad is due and a few decent games, Xcom looks good.
AwesomeO said:
I’ll be in till Monday. Not sure how much more of Panzer General I can take. After I get out a new iPad is due and a few decent games, Xcom looks good.
That’s an imbuggerance. Was it harder to treat this time around, or is it the holiday period with specialists being on holidays or something?
Anyone taking bets on Brexit?
I have been reading the daily Gruin article and it strikes me that they are only looking at one side of the doom scenario. If they are predicting losses to business the other side of that ledger is a business that has lost sales. Surely there is an incentive on the selling side to get a contract sorted and I really don’t understand why after a Brexit business cannot proceed, the goods and processes will be the same, buyers will want to buy, sellers certainly want to sell.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
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Tom Tengu
Like This Page · 9 hrs ·Heaps of people think I’m completely making up this ‘Australia Must Leave the EU!’ insanity. Well. Look at this. This was a real poll conducted in the far-right Make Victoria Safe Again group.
Australians, these are your neighbours and countryfolk.
Oh, come on, it’s a pisstake.
the thing about Facebook is that everyone sorts themselves into groups. There are places for the daft to be on Facebook.
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:
I’ll be in till Monday. Not sure how much more of Panzer General I can take. After I get out a new iPad is due and a few decent games, Xcom looks good.
That’s an imbuggerance. Was it harder to treat this time around, or is it the holiday period with specialists being on holidays or something?
Treatment is much the same, it’s the full 10 day IV antibiotics, X Ray tomorrow to see if the “cavity” is free, team doesn’t work on weekends and must be busy tomorrow, so X Ray will be assessed and hopefully dischargble on Monday.
Now a car to sort out, it’s been in the underground car park at ten bucks a day.
AwesomeO said:
Anyone taking bets on Brexit?I have been reading the daily Gruin article and it strikes me that they are only looking at one side of the doom scenario. If they are predicting losses to business the other side of that ledger is a business that has lost sales. Surely there is an incentive on the selling side to get a contract sorted and I really don’t understand why after a Brexit business cannot proceed, the goods and processes will be the same, buyers will want to buy, sellers certainly want to sell.
What do you mean by taking bets? On whether it will happen?
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:That’s a good poem. Seems to be by an American poet called Merrit Malloy.
It is a good poem. But I don’t have someone to throw my arms around. And I am still teary.
electronic hugs for sarahs mum
Thanks car.
xxx
AwesomeO said:
I’ll be in till Monday. Not sure how much more of Panzer General I can take. After I get out a new iPad is due and a few decent games, Xcom looks good.
Back in the late 70s, i used to play wargames, which were boardgames, a lot of them from SPI, with a bunch of like-minded idiots.
There was one, ‘Eastern Front’ i think, had 5,000 counters. Took about 12 people to play, because no one person could keep track of it all. Took us three solid days of play to get through it, and i mean crashng on the couch and floor in shifts.
There was a squad based one, which had a character named Kelly. Whoever got Kelly in their squad was duty-bound to run him in front of a machine-gun at the first chance, because there was a kid at school named Kelly who was a real shit.
buffy said:
I think I will watch that doco on SBS tonight, regardless of what you lot say. They were a very weird mob of people. I’ve never really bothered to read the details.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege
The miniseries was pretty good, ill give it a go, and afterwards is …. SHIELDWALL!
Can’t cop Sherlock, last weeks started at 8:15 and civilisation didn’t end till 8:40 some was clueless once again.
sibeen said:
AwesomeO said:
Anyone taking bets on Brexit?I have been reading the daily Gruin article and it strikes me that they are only looking at one side of the doom scenario. If they are predicting losses to business the other side of that ledger is a business that has lost sales. Surely there is an incentive on the selling side to get a contract sorted and I really don’t understand why after a Brexit business cannot proceed, the goods and processes will be the same, buyers will want to buy, sellers certainly want to sell.
What do you mean by taking bets? On whether it will happen?
Well,that’s one bet, or a side bet for another referendum, or the results of the referendum, or if it is going to be a disaster on the scale of y2k or not.
AwesomeO said:
Anyone taking bets on Brexit?I have been reading the daily Gruin article and it strikes me that they are only looking at one side of the doom scenario. If they are predicting losses to business the other side of that ledger is a business that has lost sales. Surely there is an incentive on the selling side to get a contract sorted and I really don’t understand why after a Brexit business cannot proceed, the goods and processes will be the same, buyers will want to buy, sellers certainly want to sell.
It is the paperwork involved for customs. Each shipment will need an itemised invoice, itemised packing list, a packing materials certificate, and various other certificates required for dangerous goods, foods, timber products etc depending upon the specific product , before it can get through Customs and Quarantine. Then Customs duties need to be paid on the invoice amount.
It can be done, but the data entry requirements to type up each one is considerable. The extra cost will make them uncompetitive, or just not worth the bother.
The benefit of being in a Customs Union are non-trivial.
dv said:
By putting a hole in a net, you decrease the number of holes
What about removing a hole from a net?
Does that increase or decrease the number of holes?
captain_spalding said:
AwesomeO said:
I’ll be in till Monday. Not sure how much more of Panzer General I can take. After I get out a new iPad is due and a few decent games, Xcom looks good.
Back in the late 70s, i used to play wargames, which were boardgames, a lot of them from SPI, with a bunch of like-minded idiots.
There was one, ‘Eastern Front’ i think, had 5,000 counters. Took about 12 people to play, because no one person could keep track of it all. Took us three solid days of play to get through it, and i mean crashng on the couch and floor in shifts.
There was a squad based one, which had a character named Kelly. Whoever got Kelly in their squad was duty-bound to run him in front of a machine-gun at the first chance, because there was a kid at school named Kelly who was a real shit.
Yeah, this is a hex game, I have just got to D, day, a scenario takes most of a day.
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:
Anyone taking bets on Brexit?I have been reading the daily Gruin article and it strikes me that they are only looking at one side of the doom scenario. If they are predicting losses to business the other side of that ledger is a business that has lost sales. Surely there is an incentive on the selling side to get a contract sorted and I really don’t understand why after a Brexit business cannot proceed, the goods and processes will be the same, buyers will want to buy, sellers certainly want to sell.
It is the paperwork involved for customs. Each shipment will need an itemised invoice, itemised packing list, a packing materials certificate, and various other certificates required for dangerous goods, foods, timber products etc depending upon the specific product , before it can get through Customs and Quarantine. Then Customs duties need to be paid on the invoice amount.
It can be done, but the data entry requirements to type up each one is considerable. The extra cost will make them uncompetitive, or just not worth the bother.
The benefit of being in a Customs Union are non-trivial.
And each item on the packing list needs the correct HS Code.
AwesomeO said:
Anyone taking bets on Brexit?I have been reading the daily Gruin article and it strikes me that they are only looking at one side of the doom scenario. If they are predicting losses to business the other side of that ledger is a business that has lost sales. Surely there is an incentive on the selling side to get a contract sorted and I really don’t understand why after a Brexit business cannot proceed, the goods and processes will be the same, buyers will want to buy, sellers certainly want to sell.
The EU is among other things a free trade zone. Non-EU nations within Europe lose out by not having open access to the EU, which is the largest market in the world.
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:
Anyone taking bets on Brexit?I have been reading the daily Gruin article and it strikes me that they are only looking at one side of the doom scenario. If they are predicting losses to business the other side of that ledger is a business that has lost sales. Surely there is an incentive on the selling side to get a contract sorted and I really don’t understand why after a Brexit business cannot proceed, the goods and processes will be the same, buyers will want to buy, sellers certainly want to sell.
It is the paperwork involved for customs. Each shipment will need an itemised invoice, itemised packing list, a packing materials certificate, and various other certificates required for dangerous goods, foods, timber products etc depending upon the specific product , before it can get through Customs and Quarantine. Then Customs duties need to be paid on the invoice amount.
It can be done, but the data entry requirements to type up each one is considerable. The extra cost will make them uncompetitive, or just not worth the bother.
The benefit of being in a Customs Union are non-trivial.
Does that mean customs are not paid now? Why not just have the requirements the same? It’s not like the EU can stand at borders and stop trade. If it’s trade coming into the EU is the issue, then the buyers there will soon say so.
party_pants said:
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:
Anyone taking bets on Brexit?I have been reading the daily Gruin article and it strikes me that they are only looking at one side of the doom scenario. If they are predicting losses to business the other side of that ledger is a business that has lost sales. Surely there is an incentive on the selling side to get a contract sorted and I really don’t understand why after a Brexit business cannot proceed, the goods and processes will be the same, buyers will want to buy, sellers certainly want to sell.
It is the paperwork involved for customs. Each shipment will need an itemised invoice, itemised packing list, a packing materials certificate, and various other certificates required for dangerous goods, foods, timber products etc depending upon the specific product , before it can get through Customs and Quarantine. Then Customs duties need to be paid on the invoice amount.
It can be done, but the data entry requirements to type up each one is considerable. The extra cost will make them uncompetitive, or just not worth the bother.
The benefit of being in a Customs Union are non-trivial.
And each item on the packing list needs the correct HS Code.
I once got picked up for using the incorrect HS Code. Square head stainless steels bolts have a different HS Code to hexagonal head ordinary steel bolts. I had to re-work the packing list.
dv said:
AwesomeO said:
Anyone taking bets on Brexit?I have been reading the daily Gruin article and it strikes me that they are only looking at one side of the doom scenario. If they are predicting losses to business the other side of that ledger is a business that has lost sales. Surely there is an incentive on the selling side to get a contract sorted and I really don’t understand why after a Brexit business cannot proceed, the goods and processes will be the same, buyers will want to buy, sellers certainly want to sell.
The EU is among other things a free trade zone. Non-EU nations within Europe lose out by not having open access to the EU, which is the largest market in the world.
But the EU does trade with the world. It’s not an impossible task and Britian has an advantage in that relationships and procedures are known.
party_pants said:
party_pants said:
party_pants said:It is the paperwork involved for customs. Each shipment will need an itemised invoice, itemised packing list, a packing materials certificate, and various other certificates required for dangerous goods, foods, timber products etc depending upon the specific product , before it can get through Customs and Quarantine. Then Customs duties need to be paid on the invoice amount.
It can be done, but the data entry requirements to type up each one is considerable. The extra cost will make them uncompetitive, or just not worth the bother.
The benefit of being in a Customs Union are non-trivial.
And each item on the packing list needs the correct HS Code.
I once got picked up for using the incorrect HS Code. Square head stainless steels bolts have a different HS Code to hexagonal head ordinary steel bolts. I had to re-work the packing list.
That’s the sort of thing I mean, those selling stainless steel bolts will still be selling the same bolts the day after, the standards don’t change if no one wants them too. The sellers won’t suddenly lose the plot and start making them star shaped and the buyers won’t be throwing into the channel perfectly good bolts they need…or have to look elsewhere to get.
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:
Anyone taking bets on Brexit?I have been reading the daily Gruin article and it strikes me that they are only looking at one side of the doom scenario. If they are predicting losses to business the other side of that ledger is a business that has lost sales. Surely there is an incentive on the selling side to get a contract sorted and I really don’t understand why after a Brexit business cannot proceed, the goods and processes will be the same, buyers will want to buy, sellers certainly want to sell.
It is the paperwork involved for customs. Each shipment will need an itemised invoice, itemised packing list, a packing materials certificate, and various other certificates required for dangerous goods, foods, timber products etc depending upon the specific product , before it can get through Customs and Quarantine. Then Customs duties need to be paid on the invoice amount.
It can be done, but the data entry requirements to type up each one is considerable. The extra cost will make them uncompetitive, or just not worth the bother.
The benefit of being in a Customs Union are non-trivial.
Does that mean customs are not paid now? Why not just have the requirements the same? It’s not like the EU can stand at borders and stop trade. If it’s trade coming into the EU is the issue, then the buyers there will soon say so.
Within the EU, no. You can export or import blah from the UK to Hungary, through France, Italy and Slovenia without needing all the paperwork. With Brexit you wont, all the paperwork is needed to get into the EU. Not to mention the cargo itself will need to be sealed with a unique numbered non-tamper seal.
Even if the Brits decide to let EU goods in without all the Customs bullshit, the EU will insist on all of it for UK goods.
AwesomeO said:
buffy said:I think I will watch that doco on SBS tonight, regardless of what you lot say. They were a very weird mob of people. I’ve never really bothered to read the details.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege
The miniseries was pretty good, ill give it a go, and afterwards is …. SHIELDWALL!
Can’t cop Sherlock, last weeks started at 8:15 and civilisation didn’t end till 8:40 some was clueless once again.
Oh yes, you would not have been able to keep up with it starting from there.
‘nings! from Parkes, Central NSW.
Dish inspected and found to be in working condition. They’re doing a good job, those RSPCA blokes.
More north tomorrow.
I don’t pretend to know anything about Brexit.
However, I have an Irish friend who says Northern Ireland are looking forward to Brexit because they will secede from the UK to make a United Ireland.
Rule 303 said:
‘nings! from Parkes, Central NSW.Dish inspected and found to be in working condition. They’re doing a good job, those RSPCA blokes.
More north tomorrow.
Dry out there?
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:
party_pants said:And each item on the packing list needs the correct HS Code.
I once got picked up for using the incorrect HS Code. Square head stainless steels bolts have a different HS Code to hexagonal head ordinary steel bolts. I had to re-work the packing list.
That’s the sort of thing I mean, those selling stainless steel bolts will still be selling the same bolts the day after, the standards don’t change if no one wants them too. The sellers won’t suddenly lose the plot and start making them star shaped and the buyers won’t be throwing into the channel perfectly good bolts they need…or have to look elsewhere to get.
Domestic paperwork takes 5 minutes. International takes 45 minutes. In my experience.
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:It is the paperwork involved for customs. Each shipment will need an itemised invoice, itemised packing list, a packing materials certificate, and various other certificates required for dangerous goods, foods, timber products etc depending upon the specific product , before it can get through Customs and Quarantine. Then Customs duties need to be paid on the invoice amount.
It can be done, but the data entry requirements to type up each one is considerable. The extra cost will make them uncompetitive, or just not worth the bother.
The benefit of being in a Customs Union are non-trivial.
Does that mean customs are not paid now? Why not just have the requirements the same? It’s not like the EU can stand at borders and stop trade. If it’s trade coming into the EU is the issue, then the buyers there will soon say so.
Within the EU, no. You can export or import blah from the UK to Hungary, through France, Italy and Slovenia without needing all the paperwork. With Brexit you wont, all the paperwork is needed to get into the EU. Not to mention the cargo itself will need to be sealed with a unique numbered non-tamper seal.
Even if the Brits decide to let EU goods in without all the Customs bullshit, the EU will insist on all of it for UK goods.
Meh, so they get treated like the rest of the world, is that such a disaster, remember you still have two committed parties, the buyer and the seller who have an interest in making it work. I can’t see it beyond the ken of men, countries import and export every day of the week. Even into and out of the EU.
Divine Angel said:
I don’t pretend to know anything about Brexit.However, I have an Irish friend who says Northern Ireland are looking forward to Brexit because they will secede from the UK to make a United Ireland.
EH? I suspect your Irish friend is slightly fucking insane.
AwesomeO said:
sibeen said:
AwesomeO said:
Anyone taking bets on Brexit?I have been reading the daily Gruin article and it strikes me that they are only looking at one side of the doom scenario. If they are predicting losses to business the other side of that ledger is a business that has lost sales. Surely there is an incentive on the selling side to get a contract sorted and I really don’t understand why after a Brexit business cannot proceed, the goods and processes will be the same, buyers will want to buy, sellers certainly want to sell.
What do you mean by taking bets? On whether it will happen?
Well,that’s one bet, or a side bet for another referendum, or the results of the referendum, or if it is going to be a disaster on the scale of y2k or not.
I’m not an economist, but usually when there is unanimity of thought among experts, they’re right. There have been exceptions but that’s the usual way. So I have little reason to doubt the common view which is that the cumulative losses due to Brexit range from about 400 billion pounds for a soft deal, up to about 700 billion pounds for no deal, with job losses into 7 figures. What happens after that, I don’t know. Even tighter austerity? Bloody revolution? Will the NHS even survive the planned cuts? I suppose we’ll see.
There’s some chance Brexit will never happen, still. The referendum was non binding and the EU have made it clear the UK can unilaterally cancel Brexit at any time. May’s position is tenuous and the DUP aren’t keen on her EU deal in regards to the border with Ireland. Time’s running out but there are still avenues and of course plenty of motive: public opinion has shifted against it, it will make governing harder.
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:
I don’t pretend to know anything about Brexit.However, I have an Irish friend who says Northern Ireland are looking forward to Brexit because they will secede from the UK to make a United Ireland.
EH? I suspect your Irish friend is slightly fucking insane.
Yer not wrong, the last thing the north wants to do is secede.
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:
I don’t pretend to know anything about Brexit.However, I have an Irish friend who says Northern Ireland are looking forward to Brexit because they will secede from the UK to make a United Ireland.
EH? I suspect your Irish friend is slightly fucking insane.
Well… she is Irish so that’s a very strong possibility.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
By putting a hole in a net, you decrease the number of holes
What about removing a hole from a net?
Does that increase or decrease the number of holes?
Yes
AwesomeO said:
dv said:
AwesomeO said:
Anyone taking bets on Brexit?I have been reading the daily Gruin article and it strikes me that they are only looking at one side of the doom scenario. If they are predicting losses to business the other side of that ledger is a business that has lost sales. Surely there is an incentive on the selling side to get a contract sorted and I really don’t understand why after a Brexit business cannot proceed, the goods and processes will be the same, buyers will want to buy, sellers certainly want to sell.
The EU is among other things a free trade zone. Non-EU nations within Europe lose out by not having open access to the EU, which is the largest market in the world.
But the EU does trade with the world. It’s not an impossible task and Britian has an advantage in that relationships and procedures are known.
. Trade will still happen, if that’s what you mean.
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:Does that mean customs are not paid now? Why not just have the requirements the same? It’s not like the EU can stand at borders and stop trade. If it’s trade coming into the EU is the issue, then the buyers there will soon say so.
Within the EU, no. You can export or import blah from the UK to Hungary, through France, Italy and Slovenia without needing all the paperwork. With Brexit you wont, all the paperwork is needed to get into the EU. Not to mention the cargo itself will need to be sealed with a unique numbered non-tamper seal.
Even if the Brits decide to let EU goods in without all the Customs bullshit, the EU will insist on all of it for UK goods.
Meh, so they get treated like the rest of the world, is that such a disaster, remember you still have two committed parties, the buyer and the seller who have an interest in making it work. I can’t see it beyond the ken of men, countries import and export every day of the week. Even into and out of the EU.
Can’t remember where I saw it now, but there was an estimate that for the number of trucks crossing currently from the UK into France each day, needing the new correct paperwork to enter as a outside-EU import would take 185,000 people to do the data entry.
Most, actually pretty much all, the unanimity of thought I have read is Guardian opinion and I am suss on that.
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:
‘nings! from Parkes, Central NSW.Dish inspected and found to be in working condition. They’re doing a good job, those RSPCA blokes.
More north tomorrow.
Dry out there?
Yep. I’ve seen worse, but not by much. Lots Willy Willies visible (because the topsoil is blowing away) and dry creeks.
AwesomeO said:
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:
I don’t pretend to know anything about Brexit.However, I have an Irish friend who says Northern Ireland are looking forward to Brexit because they will secede from the UK to make a United Ireland.
EH? I suspect your Irish friend is slightly fucking insane.
Yer not wrong, the last thing the north wants to do is secede.
Support for unification has increased since the Brexit dramas but it’s still only about a quarter.
And anyway I’m not sure the UK would let N.Ire go.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-united-ireland-referendum-northern-border-uk-yougov-poll-a8389086.html
dv said:
AwesomeO said:
sibeen said:EH? I suspect your Irish friend is slightly fucking insane.
Yer not wrong, the last thing the north wants to do is secede.
Support for unification has increased since the Brexit dramas but it’s still only about a quarter.
And anyway I’m not sure the UK would let N.Ire go.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-united-ireland-referendum-northern-border-uk-yougov-poll-a8389086.html
I suspect that the others in the UK would gladly hand norn iron back to the republic. The republic would be looking at ‘the gift’ like a sack of vipers.
dv said:
AwesomeO said:
sibeen said:What do you mean by taking bets? On whether it will happen?
Well,that’s one bet, or a side bet for another referendum, or the results of the referendum, or if it is going to be a disaster on the scale of y2k or not.
I’m not an economist, but usually when there is unanimity of thought among experts, they’re right. There have been exceptions but that’s the usual way. So I have little reason to doubt the common view which is that the cumulative losses due to Brexit range from about 400 billion pounds for a soft deal, up to about 700 billion pounds for no deal, with job losses into 7 figures. What happens after that, I don’t know. Even tighter austerity? Bloody revolution? Will the NHS even survive the planned cuts? I suppose we’ll see.
There’s some chance Brexit will never happen, still. The referendum was non binding and the EU have made it clear the UK can unilaterally cancel Brexit at any time. May’s position is tenuous and the DUP aren’t keen on her EU deal in regards to the border with Ireland. Time’s running out but there are still avenues and of course plenty of motive: public opinion has shifted against it, it will make governing harder.
But they were promised more money for the NHS.
sibeen said:
dv said:
AwesomeO said:Yer not wrong, the last thing the north wants to do is secede.
Support for unification has increased since the Brexit dramas but it’s still only about a quarter.
And anyway I’m not sure the UK would let N.Ire go.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-united-ireland-referendum-northern-border-uk-yougov-poll-a8389086.html
I suspect that the others in the UK would gladly hand norn iron back to the republic. The republic would be looking at ‘the gift’ like a sack of vipers.
You sure?
Many Irish people I have met seem to think a united Ireland is the way things are supposed to be, in the long term.
AwesomeO said:
Most, actually pretty much all, the unanimity of thought I have read is Guardian opinion and I am suss on that.
Well the remedy is to read more broadly.
Bloomberg
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-11-30/theresa-may-s-brexit-will-cost-the-u-k-a-fortune
Forbes
https://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2018/11/16/the-brutal-reality-of-brexit/#786a1ebe5fb1
Oxford Economics (they predict a loss of 99 billion euro just in the next two years alone)
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/oxford-economics-hard-brexit-could-cost-eu-99-billion-2018-1?r=UK&IR=T
There aren’t any economists who think Brexit won’t cause massive loss of value and government revenue.
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
By putting a hole in a net, you decrease the number of holes
What about removing a hole from a net?
Does that increase or decrease the number of holes?
Yes
That’s what I thought you’d say.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
dv said:Support for unification has increased since the Brexit dramas but it’s still only about a quarter.
And anyway I’m not sure the UK would let N.Ire go.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-united-ireland-referendum-northern-border-uk-yougov-poll-a8389086.html
I suspect that the others in the UK would gladly hand norn iron back to the republic. The republic would be looking at ‘the gift’ like a sack of vipers.
You sure?
Many Irish people I have met seem to think a united Ireland is the way things are supposed to be, in the long term.
No doubt many wish for a united Ireland, it’s a generational dream; but if you were the government of the republic would you want to take on the problems of the UDA and the UVF and their extremely pissed off members.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
AwesomeO said:Well,that’s one bet, or a side bet for another referendum, or the results of the referendum, or if it is going to be a disaster on the scale of y2k or not.
I’m not an economist, but usually when there is unanimity of thought among experts, they’re right. There have been exceptions but that’s the usual way. So I have little reason to doubt the common view which is that the cumulative losses due to Brexit range from about 400 billion pounds for a soft deal, up to about 700 billion pounds for no deal, with job losses into 7 figures. What happens after that, I don’t know. Even tighter austerity? Bloody revolution? Will the NHS even survive the planned cuts? I suppose we’ll see.
There’s some chance Brexit will never happen, still. The referendum was non binding and the EU have made it clear the UK can unilaterally cancel Brexit at any time. May’s position is tenuous and the DUP aren’t keen on her EU deal in regards to the border with Ireland. Time’s running out but there are still avenues and of course plenty of motive: public opinion has shifted against it, it will make governing harder.
But they were promised more money for the NHS.
Yes…
The funny thing is, there was near unanimity among economists before the referendum. Brexiteer Michael Gove’s response was just to say “people of this country have had enough of experts”.
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:I suspect that the others in the UK would gladly hand norn iron back to the republic. The republic would be looking at ‘the gift’ like a sack of vipers.
You sure?
Many Irish people I have met seem to think a united Ireland is the way things are supposed to be, in the long term.
No doubt many wish for a united Ireland, it’s a generational dream; but if you were the government of the republic would you want to take on the problems of the UDA and the UVF and their extremely pissed off members.
If I was the government of the republic, and I wanted to get there, I wouldn’t be starting from here.
‘‘Tired Australia flounders in the field, but opportunity awaits in Melbourne’‘ – ABC News
That’s my own new name for the Austrailan XI – ‘The Australia Flounders’.
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:I suspect that the others in the UK would gladly hand norn iron back to the republic. The republic would be looking at ‘the gift’ like a sack of vipers.
You sure?
Many Irish people I have met seem to think a united Ireland is the way things are supposed to be, in the long term.
No doubt many wish for a united Ireland, it’s a generational dream; but if you were the government of the republic would you want to take on the problems of the UDA and the UVF and their extremely pissed off members.
You’d hope the UK government would give them free passage to resettle in Milton Keynes or somewhere.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:You sure?
Many Irish people I have met seem to think a united Ireland is the way things are supposed to be, in the long term.
No doubt many wish for a united Ireland, it’s a generational dream; but if you were the government of the republic would you want to take on the problems of the UDA and the UVF and their extremely pissed off members.
If I was the government of the republic, and I wanted to get there, I wouldn’t be starting from here.
Nice ref
captain_spalding said:
‘‘Tired Australia flounders in the field, but opportunity awaits in Melbourne’‘ – ABC NewsThat’s my own new name for the Austrailan XI – ‘The Australia Flounders’.
A victory has a thousand fathers, but a defeat is an orphan.
AwesomeO said:
Meh, so they get treated like the rest of the world, is that such a disaster, remember you still have two committed parties, the buyer and the seller who have an interest in making it work. I can’t see it beyond the ken of men, countries import and export every day of the week. Even into and out of the EU.
dv said:
AwesomeO said:Meh, so they get treated like the rest of the world, is that such a disaster, remember you still have two committed parties, the buyer and the seller who have an interest in making it work. I can’t see it beyond the ken of men, countries import and export every day of the week. Even into and out of the EU.
EU membership boosted the UK economy hy about 4 to 5%. Will they survive? Yeah I mean they’ll still have a country. But losing 5% of your economy in a hit is still an economic disaster.
They will survive, but they will be very diminished in terms of prestige and power.
Thing is that those motivated to do this think they are regaining the prestige they ceded to the EU. They will be an irrelevance on the world stage after this.
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:I’m not an economist, but usually when there is unanimity of thought among experts, they’re right. There have been exceptions but that’s the usual way. So I have little reason to doubt the common view which is that the cumulative losses due to Brexit range from about 400 billion pounds for a soft deal, up to about 700 billion pounds for no deal, with job losses into 7 figures. What happens after that, I don’t know. Even tighter austerity? Bloody revolution? Will the NHS even survive the planned cuts? I suppose we’ll see.
There’s some chance Brexit will never happen, still. The referendum was non binding and the EU have made it clear the UK can unilaterally cancel Brexit at any time. May’s position is tenuous and the DUP aren’t keen on her EU deal in regards to the border with Ireland. Time’s running out but there are still avenues and of course plenty of motive: public opinion has shifted against it, it will make governing harder.
But they were promised more money for the NHS.
Yes…
The funny thing is, there was near unanimity among economists before the referendum. Brexiteer Michael Gove’s response was just to say “people of this country have had enough of experts”.
I blame Murdoch and Russia.
Hugs SM. How are you?
Trump tells a 7-year-old child’s belief in Santa is ‘marginal’
Posted Tue at 6:08pm
US President Donald Trump asks a 7-year-old whether the child still believed in Santa over a telephone call in the White House on Christmas Eve.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-25/trump-tells-childs-belief-in-santa-is-marginal/10667946
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
sarahs mum said:But they were promised more money for the NHS.
Yes…
The funny thing is, there was near unanimity among economists before the referendum. Brexiteer Michael Gove’s response was just to say “people of this country have had enough of experts”.
I blame Murdoch and Russia.
The remain campaign had the backing of the government and the vast majority of the media. There was obviously an underlying seam of support for leaving that “those in the know” were not aware of.
sarahs mum said:
Trump tells a 7-year-old child’s belief in Santa is ‘marginal’Posted Tue at 6:08pm
US President Donald Trump asks a 7-year-old whether the child still believed in Santa over a telephone call in the White House on Christmas Eve.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-25/trump-tells-childs-belief-in-santa-is-marginal/10667946
… 😳
Divine Angel said:
Hugs SM. How are you?
Still teary. Just spent a time on the phone with my sister. She said she would speak for me at John’s funeral so I suppose I shall write something in the next day or two.
I had a nice visit this morning from Ben the forummer down here. He bought his lovely lady.That was nice break.
So now I know more about the Branch Davidians. I didn’t know they were a splinter off the Adventists. Do the Adventists have polygamy and child brides or is that something peculiar to the Waco lot? I found it all rather disgusting – the parents basically giving him free reign over their young teenage girls. And I understand that it is generally accepted that the feds went about it in the wrong way, but I would suggest that Koresh was going to go out in an apocalypse of his own making regardless. He was no alternative. Shame he took a bunch of children with him.
buffy said:
So now I know more about the Branch Davidians. I didn’t know they were a splinter off the Adventists. Do the Adventists have polygamy and child brides or is that something peculiar to the Waco lot? I found it all rather disgusting – the parents basically giving him free reign over their young teenage girls. And I understand that it is generally accepted that the feds went about it in the wrong way, but I would suggest that Koresh was going to go out in an apocalypse of his own making regardless. He was no alternative. Shame he took a bunch of children with him.
A few Aussies there as well. Dunno how many in the compound but they outnumbered the others in the doco.
buffy said:
So now I know more about the Branch Davidians. I didn’t know they were a splinter off the Adventists. Do the Adventists have polygamy and child brides or is that something peculiar to the Waco lot? I found it all rather disgusting – the parents basically giving him free reign over their young teenage girls. And I understand that it is generally accepted that the feds went about it in the wrong way, but I would suggest that Koresh was going to go out in an apocalypse of his own making regardless. He was no alternative. Shame he took a bunch of children with him.
Nothing to do with religion. He was just a sicko-pervert wanting a harem of young girls for his own gratification. The religious teaching were just a way of manipulating them into it, there was no personal conviction behind it. Just a tool he used on people too indoctrinated to question it.
AwesomeO said:
buffy said:So now I know more about the Branch Davidians. I didn’t know they were a splinter off the Adventists. Do the Adventists have polygamy and child brides or is that something peculiar to the Waco lot? I found it all rather disgusting – the parents basically giving him free reign over their young teenage girls. And I understand that it is generally accepted that the feds went about it in the wrong way, but I would suggest that Koresh was going to go out in an apocalypse of his own making regardless. He was no alternative. Shame he took a bunch of children with him.
A few Aussies there as well. Dunno how many in the compound but they outnumbered the others in the doco.
Yes, I noticed that too.
party_pants said:
buffy said:So now I know more about the Branch Davidians. I didn’t know they were a splinter off the Adventists. Do the Adventists have polygamy and child brides or is that something peculiar to the Waco lot? I found it all rather disgusting – the parents basically giving him free reign over their young teenage girls. And I understand that it is generally accepted that the feds went about it in the wrong way, but I would suggest that Koresh was going to go out in an apocalypse of his own making regardless. He was no alternative. Shame he took a bunch of children with him.
Nothing to do with religion. He was just a sicko-pervert wanting a harem of young girls for his own gratification. The religious teaching were just a way of manipulating them into it, there was no personal conviction behind it. Just a tool he used on people too indoctrinated to question it.
I’m not so sure about that. I think he really did believe what he was doing, I just don’t understand how he came to the belief in himself. He was quite sacrilegious really but he may have thought god was telling him to do it. As a Christian, I don’t think you are supposed to put yourself above God or second guess the deity.
buffy said:
party_pants said:
buffy said:So now I know more about the Branch Davidians. I didn’t know they were a splinter off the Adventists. Do the Adventists have polygamy and child brides or is that something peculiar to the Waco lot? I found it all rather disgusting – the parents basically giving him free reign over their young teenage girls. And I understand that it is generally accepted that the feds went about it in the wrong way, but I would suggest that Koresh was going to go out in an apocalypse of his own making regardless. He was no alternative. Shame he took a bunch of children with him.
Nothing to do with religion. He was just a sicko-pervert wanting a harem of young girls for his own gratification. The religious teaching were just a way of manipulating them into it, there was no personal conviction behind it. Just a tool he used on people too indoctrinated to question it.
I’m not so sure about that. I think he really did believe what he was doing, I just don’t understand how he came to the belief in himself. He was quite sacrilegious really but he may have thought god was telling him to do it. As a Christian, I don’t think you are supposed to put yourself above God or second guess the deity.
Oldest trick in the book I reckon. Just come up with something that nobody has thought of before, and sound convincing when you explain it to people. That way they think “wow – I would never have thought of that, this bloke must have some special insight given by God”. Once they start thinking that the next step is introduce more and more bizarre interpretations, at the same time preach that the mainstream who don’t accept your interpretation are missing out and only the faithful followers are getting in on the secret. Result, closed community suspicious of the outside, and totally compliant to the wishes of the leader.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
John Mcdowall
2 hrs ·We would like all of Dad’s friends to know that he passed away peacefully at Kyogle Hospital on Christmas Day. It is comforting to know he is no longer suffering. Dad loved living in Kyogle, and thankfully he remained at home until just a few days before he died. We want to thank all those people who provided him with company and support during the hard times.
We have found a document on his computer ‘When I Die’ that has some very fitting words
‘When I die
Give what’s left of me away
To children
And old men that wait to die.And if you need to cry,
Cry for your brother
Walking the street beside youAnd when you need me,
Put your arms
Around anyone
And give to them
What you need to give to me.I want to leave you something,
Something better
Than words
Or sounds.Look for me
In the people I’ve known
Or loved,
And if you cannot give me away,
At least let me live in your eyes
And not on your mind.You can love me most
By letting
Hands touch hands
By letting
Bodies touch bodies
And by letting go
Of children
That need to be free.Love doesn’t die,
People do.
So, when all that’s left of me
Is love,
Give me away’A funeral service will be held at Kyogle Uniting Church at 1:30pm on the 2nd of January, followed by a wake back at his home. All welcome to attend
That’s a good poem. Seems to be by an American poet called Merrit Malloy.
It is a good poem. But I don’t have someone to throw my arms around. And I am still teary.
I’m sorry to read that.
Going to visit him seems the right thing in retrospect.
((((((((((((((sm)))))))))))))))
sibeen said:
The remain campaign had the backing of the government and the vast majority of the media. There was obviously an underlying seam of support for leaving that “those in the know” were not aware of.
Years of austerity, big companies paying no tax, bailing out banks with taxpayers money. There’s a big undercurrent of resentment. It’s easy to dismiss brexiteers as xenophobes who just didn’t like foreigners and immigrants, but that’s lazy thinking. It’s far more complex.
I can’t see that there is any going back now. The EU has shown its hand and wants to make an example of UK to ensure no one else tries it.
John Plger is doing China on viceland. I expect bias.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:That’s a good poem. Seems to be by an American poet called Merrit Malloy.
It is a good poem. But I don’t have someone to throw my arms around. And I am still teary.
I’m sorry to read that.
Going to visit him seems the right thing in retrospect.
((((((((((((((sm)))))))))))))))
It was. I did say I would prefer to go and see him before he died than to go to his funeral and my sister took me up on it. I’m glad I got to say I love yous instead of leaving them unsaid.
(Although I would like to be with somebody atm.)
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:It is a good poem. But I don’t have someone to throw my arms around. And I am still teary.
I’m sorry to read that.
Going to visit him seems the right thing in retrospect.
((((((((((((((sm)))))))))))))))
It was. I did say I would prefer to go and see him before he died than to go to his funeral and my sister took me up on it. I’m glad I got to say I love yous instead of leaving them unsaid.
(Although I would like to be with somebody atm.)
((((((((((((((sm)))))))))))))))
((((((((((((((sm)))))))))))))))
((((((((((((((sm)))))))))))))))
party_pants said:
buffy said:So now I know more about the Branch Davidians. I didn’t know they were a splinter off the Adventists. Do the Adventists have polygamy and child brides or is that something peculiar to the Waco lot? I found it all rather disgusting – the parents basically giving him free reign over their young teenage girls. And I understand that it is generally accepted that the feds went about it in the wrong way, but I would suggest that Koresh was going to go out in an apocalypse of his own making regardless. He was no alternative. Shame he took a bunch of children with him.
Nothing to do with religion. He was just a sicko-pervert wanting a harem of young girls for his own gratification. The religious teaching were just a way of manipulating them into it, there was no personal conviction behind it. Just a tool he used on people too indoctrinated to question it.
That’s a lot of conjecture
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:It is a good poem. But I don’t have someone to throw my arms around. And I am still teary.
I’m sorry to read that.
Going to visit him seems the right thing in retrospect.
((((((((((((((sm)))))))))))))))
It was. I did say I would prefer to go and see him before he died than to go to his funeral and my sister took me up on it. I’m glad I got to say I love yous instead of leaving them unsaid.
(Although I would like to be with somebody atm.)
You did good SM.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:I’m sorry to read that.
Going to visit him seems the right thing in retrospect.
((((((((((((((sm)))))))))))))))
It was. I did say I would prefer to go and see him before he died than to go to his funeral and my sister took me up on it. I’m glad I got to say I love yous instead of leaving them unsaid.
(Although I would like to be with somebody atm.)
You did good SM.
Yeah you did. Give Cobbert a big cuddle.
pommiejohn said:
sibeen said:The remain campaign had the backing of the government and the vast majority of the media. There was obviously an underlying seam of support for leaving that “those in the know” were not aware of.
Years of austerity, big companies paying no tax, bailing out banks with taxpayers money. There’s a big undercurrent of resentment. It’s easy to dismiss brexiteers as xenophobes who just didn’t like foreigners and immigrants, but that’s lazy thinking. It’s far more complex.
I can’t see that there is any going back now. The EU has shown its hand and wants to make an example of UK to ensure no one else tries it.
They also don’t want one of the few EU contries that are net contributers to leave and the EU will be much poorer because of Brexit.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:I’m sorry to read that.
Going to visit him seems the right thing in retrospect.
((((((((((((((sm)))))))))))))))
It was. I did say I would prefer to go and see him before he died than to go to his funeral and my sister took me up on it. I’m glad I got to say I love yous instead of leaving them unsaid.
(Although I would like to be with somebody atm.)
You did good SM.
:)
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:It was. I did say I would prefer to go and see him before he died than to go to his funeral and my sister took me up on it. I’m glad I got to say I love yous instead of leaving them unsaid.
(Although I would like to be with somebody atm.)
You did good SM.
Yeah you did. Give Cobbert a big cuddle.
I took Cobbett with on Christmas Day. According to the discussion that went before it was so Cobbett could play with Loki and they could steal each others toys like they do each Christmas. On reflection it really helped me to have him there with me. That support dog thing. It was real.
I managed to stay up until 4.30 ish. I saw buffy’s first post a second before I shut down. The sky was just getting light. Two hours sleep then at the zoo until 1pm. Home, feed family, sleep until five.
Boys are watching Russel Coight, girl has friend over to stay. Home Made pizza for dinner and it’ll be another night of study for me. Should have a coffee now I suppose.
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:You did good SM.
Yeah you did. Give Cobbert a big cuddle.
I took Cobbett with on Christmas Day. According to the discussion that went before it was so Cobbett could play with Loki and they could steal each others toys like they do each Christmas. On reflection it really helped me to have him there with me. That support dog thing. It was real.
Cobbett. Sorry. That sounds good. Dogs are awesome.
Peak Warming Man said:
They also don’t want one of the few EU contries that are net contributers to leave and the EU will be much poorer because of Brexit.
You can labelled an eye swivelling nutter for talk like that back home :)
My mother has been completely blind for about 12 years. She had a guide dog for a while; she (the dog) was retired about 3 years ago, but Mum kept her because they’d bonded. She recently got a second guide dog (both are labradors.) She’s still kept the first one, hoping they’d get along, but the first one seems to be terribly jealous of the second (who’s still basically a pup, though she’s already had one owner.)
pommiejohn said:
Peak Warming Man said:They also don’t want one of the few EU contries that are net contributers to leave and the EU will be much poorer because of Brexit.
You can labelled an eye swivelling nutter for talk like that back home :)
Back home? I thought you’d become an Australian citizen.
btm said:
pommiejohn said:
Peak Warming Man said:They also don’t want one of the few EU contries that are net contributers to leave and the EU will be much poorer because of Brexit.
You can labelled an eye swivelling nutter for talk like that back home :)
Back home? I thought you’d become an Australian citizen.
Technically I’m both.
pommiejohn said:
btm said:
pommiejohn said:You can labelled an eye swivelling nutter for talk like that back home :)
Back home? I thought you’d become an Australian citizen.
Technically I’m both.
Where would you stand if we build a wall?
pommiejohn said:
Peak Warming Man said:They also don’t want one of the few EU contries that are net contributers to leave and the EU will be much poorer because of Brexit.
You can labelled an eye swivelling nutter for talk like that back home :)
he’s labelled that here.
Arts said:
pommiejohn said:
btm said:Back home? I thought you’d become an Australian citizen.
Technically I’m both.
Where would you stand if we build a wall?
I’d put in a quote for building the wall :)
pommiejohn said:
Arts said:
pommiejohn said:Technically I’m both.
Where would you stand if we build a wall?
I’d put in a quote for building the wall :)
Ha!
Arts said:
pommiejohn said:
Arts said:Where would you stand if we build a wall?
I’d put in a quote for building the wall :)
Ha!
Actually, it’s difficult being caught between two nations. It’s relatively easy for me but I can understand how hard it is to be told “Fit in or fuck off” when you come from a culture that’s very different.
Arts said:
party_pants said:
buffy said:So now I know more about the Branch Davidians. I didn’t know they were a splinter off the Adventists. Do the Adventists have polygamy and child brides or is that something peculiar to the Waco lot? I found it all rather disgusting – the parents basically giving him free reign over their young teenage girls. And I understand that it is generally accepted that the feds went about it in the wrong way, but I would suggest that Koresh was going to go out in an apocalypse of his own making regardless. He was no alternative. Shame he took a bunch of children with him.
Nothing to do with religion. He was just a sicko-pervert wanting a harem of young girls for his own gratification. The religious teaching were just a way of manipulating them into it, there was no personal conviction behind it. Just a tool he used on people too indoctrinated to question it.
That’s a lot of conjecture
Yeah.
Since I am an unbeliever myself I just can’t imagine that anyone else can genuinely believe either. Therefore I ascribe cynical behaviour based upon selfish motives.
pommiejohn said:
Arts said:
pommiejohn said:Technically I’m both.
Where would you stand if we build a wall?
I’d put in a quote for building the wall :)
And then photograph it.
Hey PP who won the bash tonight?
Peak Warming Man said:
Hey PP who won the bash tonight?
The Melbourne Stars, easily.
Sixers batted first but the Stars spinners got right on top with early wickets. Sixers got themselves into that death spiral going harder with the bat and just losing more wickets. In the second innings the Sixers had only one decent spinner and bowled quicks for the rest, who were just easy pickings for anything too full, too short, or too wide – and they bowled lots of that. Also dropped a couple of sitters.
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Hey PP who won the bash tonight?
The Melbourne Stars, easily.
Sixers batted first but the Stars spinners got right on top with early wickets. Sixers got themselves into that death spiral going harder with the bat and just losing more wickets. In the second innings the Sixers had only one decent spinner and bowled quicks for the rest, who were just easy pickings for anything too full, too short, or too wide – and they bowled lots of that. Also dropped a couple of sitters.
ta.
Is the Car about?
dv said:
Is the Car about?
you there car?

dv said:
Is the Car about?
I’m in here now. Just watched an episode of Stingray on the big screen in the living room.
Finished my last bottle of bubbly (which was corked, but never mind, a faint aftertaste of rancid cork added interest and helped bring up the wind).
And now I’m finishing the last of this rather nice chilled sauv blanc.
How are you dealing, sm?
dv said:
How are you dealing, sm?
Bit sad and nutty. Could be worse. Thanks for asking. :)
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
Is the Car about?you there car?
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Ha, surely that’s a pisstake :)
A friend of mine recommended a 1970s film called Don’t Look Back, which I’ve watched now.
There is a lot unexplained at the end.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
Is the Car about?you there car?
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Ha, surely that’s a pisstake :)
It is indeed:
That ad for Kraft Potato Fudge is fake
by The Retroist|Published January 30, 2017
I almost hate to write this post, but the time has come. If you follow me on social media, you might notice that every once in a while I post an ad for Kraft Potato Fudge. It is one of my favorite ads to post and it also fake.
https://www.retroist.com/2017/01/30/potato-fudge-fake/
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
Is the Car about?you there car?
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Ha, surely that’s a pisstake :)
google agrees. But there are recipes for potato fudge.
Soz, actually Don’t Look Now
dv said:
Soz, actually Don’t Look Now
It has a good reputation and I’m thinking I’ve seen it, but a long time ago.
I’ll have to track it down at some stage.
Damn, 32 tomorrow.
Partly cloudy. Medium (40%) chance of showers, most likely in the morning. The chance of a thunderstorm in the morning. Winds north to northwesterly 15 to 25 km/h becoming northwesterly 25 to 35 km/h in the early afternoon then becoming light in the evening
dv said:
A friend of mine recommended a 1970s film called Don’t Look Back, which I’ve watched now.There is a lot unexplained at the end.
If that’s the Bob Dylan documentary, I’ve seen it. I’ve never really liked Bob, but that film made me realise I was right: he’s an arrogant bastard.
Bubblecar said:
Damn, 32 tomorrow.Partly cloudy. Medium (40%) chance of showers, most likely in the morning. The chance of a thunderstorm in the morning. Winds north to northwesterly 15 to 25 km/h becoming northwesterly 25 to 35 km/h in the early afternoon then becoming light in the evening
I’m wondering if I should be daring and relocate the computer to the air-conditioned living room. But that would of course also mean either relocating the musical instruments there as well or investing in some very long microphone cables.
The computer desk could conceivably go where the sideboard currently is, and that could be moved into this room.
btm said:
dv said:
A friend of mine recommended a 1970s film called Don’t Look Back, which I’ve watched now.There is a lot unexplained at the end.
If that’s the Bob Dylan documentary, I’ve seen it. I’ve never really liked Bob, but that film made me realise I was right: he’s an arrogant bastard.
No, he’s actually talking about a film called Don’t Look Now, a thriller by Nicolas Roeg with Julie Christie and Donald Sutherland, which I do remember seeing and being very impressed by, a long time ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Look_Now
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Damn, 32 tomorrow.Partly cloudy. Medium (40%) chance of showers, most likely in the morning. The chance of a thunderstorm in the morning. Winds north to northwesterly 15 to 25 km/h becoming northwesterly 25 to 35 km/h in the early afternoon then becoming light in the evening
I’m wondering if I should be daring and relocate the computer to the air-conditioned living room. But that would of course also mean either relocating the musical instruments there as well or investing in some very long microphone cables.
The computer desk could conceivably go where the sideboard currently is, and that could be moved into this room.
25 forecast here.
Bubblecar said:
btm said:
dv said:
A friend of mine recommended a 1970s film called Don’t Look Back, which I’ve watched now.There is a lot unexplained at the end.
If that’s the Bob Dylan documentary, I’ve seen it. I’ve never really liked Bob, but that film made me realise I was right: he’s an arrogant bastard.
No, he’s actually talking about a film called Don’t Look Now, a thriller by Nicolas Roeg with Julie Christie and Donald Sutherland, which I do remember seeing and being very impressed by, a long time ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Look_Now
Yes, I see that now. I posted before I read dv’s second post.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Damn, 32 tomorrow.Partly cloudy. Medium (40%) chance of showers, most likely in the morning. The chance of a thunderstorm in the morning. Winds north to northwesterly 15 to 25 km/h becoming northwesterly 25 to 35 km/h in the early afternoon then becoming light in the evening
I’m wondering if I should be daring and relocate the computer to the air-conditioned living room. But that would of course also mean either relocating the musical instruments there as well or investing in some very long microphone cables.
The computer desk could conceivably go where the sideboard currently is, and that could be moved into this room.
25 forecast here.
That’s the benefit of being closer to the coast.
btm said:
dv said:
A friend of mine recommended a 1970s film called Don’t Look Back, which I’ve watched now.There is a lot unexplained at the end.
If that’s the Bob Dylan documentary, I’ve seen it. I’ve never really liked Bob, but that film made me realise I was right: he’s an arrogant bastard.
As for Bob Dylan, I’ve never been a fan. ‘Like a Rolling Stone’ resonated with me a bit as a teenager after my first attempt to run away from home, but that’s about it :)
Nobel Prize for Literature my fat arse.
These two are my favourite 1960s American Jewish popsters:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1J0u31ji-k
Bubblecar said:
These two are my favourite 1960s American Jewish popsters:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1J0u31ji-k
I agree about Dylan. Some great lyrics but I prefer his work done by people who can sing and people who can play.
I also agree about Paul Simon. Not so much about Garfunkel.
btm said:
dv said:
A friend of mine recommended a 1970s film called Don’t Look Back, which I’ve watched now.There is a lot unexplained at the end.
If that’s the Bob Dylan documentary, I’ve seen it. I’ve never really liked Bob, but that film made me realise I was right: he’s an arrogant bastard.
dead boring ‘live’ concert
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
These two are my favourite 1960s American Jewish popsters:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1J0u31ji-k
I agree about Dylan. Some great lyrics but I prefer his work done by people who can sing and people who can play.
I also agree about Paul Simon. Not so much about Garfunkel.
I don’t know much about Simon & Garfunkel as individuals. We had their Bridge Over Troubled Water album for Christmas when I was eleven, and my parents were always fond of them.
Apparently Garfunkel is a wayward fellow and Paul Simon has often lost patience with him, but he’s a good singer.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
These two are my favourite 1960s American Jewish popsters:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1J0u31ji-k
I agree about Dylan. Some great lyrics but I prefer his work done by people who can sing and people who can play.
I also agree about Paul Simon. Not so much about Garfunkel.
I don’t know much about Simon & Garfunkel as individuals. We had their Bridge Over Troubled Water album for Christmas when I was eleven, and my parents were always fond of them.
Apparently Garfunkel is a wayward fellow and Paul Simon has often lost patience with him, but he’s a good singer.
Simon lived music.He wrote. He played. He played with everybody.(He is on his farewell tour atm) Garfunkel wrote a few songs. Lectured in Maths. Yeah. They were matched beautifully as singers.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:I agree about Dylan. Some great lyrics but I prefer his work done by people who can sing and people who can play.
I also agree about Paul Simon. Not so much about Garfunkel.
I don’t know much about Simon & Garfunkel as individuals. We had their Bridge Over Troubled Water album for Christmas when I was eleven, and my parents were always fond of them.
Apparently Garfunkel is a wayward fellow and Paul Simon has often lost patience with him, but he’s a good singer.
Simon lived music.He wrote. He played. He played with everybody.(He is on his farewell tour atm) Garfunkel wrote a few songs. Lectured in Maths. Yeah. They were matched beautifully as singers.
:)
I can’t sing here, the neighbours are too close. I can only whisper-sing into the microphone.
But the coming year will be a musical year regardless. I’ve been putting together some lovely stuff.
Music will be the key to my freedom, one way or another :)
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:I don’t know much about Simon & Garfunkel as individuals. We had their Bridge Over Troubled Water album for Christmas when I was eleven, and my parents were always fond of them.
Apparently Garfunkel is a wayward fellow and Paul Simon has often lost patience with him, but he’s a good singer.
Simon lived music.He wrote. He played. He played with everybody.(He is on his farewell tour atm) Garfunkel wrote a few songs. Lectured in Maths. Yeah. They were matched beautifully as singers.
:)
I can’t sing here, the neighbours are too close. I can only whisper-sing into the microphone.
But the coming year will be a musical year regardless. I’ve been putting together some lovely stuff.
Music will be the key to my freedom, one way or another :)
I want to make some finer fine art. before I die wishing I had done some finer fine art.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:Simon lived music.He wrote. He played. He played with everybody.(He is on his farewell tour atm) Garfunkel wrote a few songs. Lectured in Maths. Yeah. They were matched beautifully as singers.
:)
I can’t sing here, the neighbours are too close. I can only whisper-sing into the microphone.
But the coming year will be a musical year regardless. I’ve been putting together some lovely stuff.
Music will be the key to my freedom, one way or another :)
I want to make some finer fine art. before I die wishing I had done some finer fine art.
Yeah, that too. But it’s the music with me that’s aching to explode :)
It’s when you get to the stage that you realise it would be very negligent to die before you get your work out there, that you realise there’s not much else to worry about.
Art and music, stop being frightened of it. Get it moving.
Bubblecar said:
It’s when you get to the stage that you realise it would be very negligent to die before you get your work out there, that you realise there’s not much else to worry about.Art and music, stop being frightened of it. Get it moving.
Yeah.
the woman in white

PermeateFree said:
the woman in white

The Grey Mare’s Tail Waterfall
This 61m (200 feet) high waterfall is in the National Trust for Scotland Grey Mare’s Tail Nature Reserve.
Good Morning Holidayers. Presently 20 degrees. I’d prefer cooler. Going for 34 today and as the sky is clear at the moment I’d expect that to happen reasonably quickly once the sun is up. It’s quite light already.
So I should do my stretches – which I’ve neglected for a couple of days – and do the little bit of digging I want to do early.
buffy said:
Good Morning Holidayers. Presently 20 degrees. I’d prefer cooler. Going for 34 today and as the sky is clear at the moment I’d expect that to happen reasonably quickly once the sun is up. It’s quite light already.
So I should do my stretches – which I’ve neglected for a couple of days – and do the little bit of digging I want to do early.
Stretching before exercise is associated with a higher rate of injury, according to some research by the Australian Army. Maybe save them for after?
Good morning Buffy and all.
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:Good Morning Holidayers. Presently 20 degrees. I’d prefer cooler. Going for 34 today and as the sky is clear at the moment I’d expect that to happen reasonably quickly once the sun is up. It’s quite light already.
So I should do my stretches – which I’ve neglected for a couple of days – and do the little bit of digging I want to do early.
Stretching before exercise is associated with a higher rate of injury, according to some research by the Australian Army. Maybe save them for after?
Good morning Buffy and all.
These are just my “daily” back stretches and the ones to unkink my right sciatic nerve so I can feel the little toes in my right foot.
:)
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:Good Morning Holidayers. Presently 20 degrees. I’d prefer cooler. Going for 34 today and as the sky is clear at the moment I’d expect that to happen reasonably quickly once the sun is up. It’s quite light already.
So I should do my stretches – which I’ve neglected for a couple of days – and do the little bit of digging I want to do early.
Stretching before exercise is associated with a higher rate of injury, according to some research by the Australian Army. Maybe save them for after?
Good morning Buffy and all.
These are just my “daily” back stretches and the ones to unkink my right sciatic nerve so I can feel the little toes in my right foot.
:)
That sounds OK then. Good to floss the nerves occasionally.
Photography experiment for the day: You can use the ‘Pano’ mode on your phone to take vertical photos, too.
You’re welcome.
well, that’s another night of assignmenting.. I have almost finished the first one, it’s hard when you have too much information and have to condense it down a lot…
I think I’ll get a couple of hours shut eye so I can knock this off tomorrow…
night all
Arts said:
well, that’s another night of assignmenting.. I have almost finished the first one, it’s hard when you have too much information and have to condense it down a lot…I think I’ll get a couple of hours shut eye so I can knock this off tomorrow…
night all
Night Arts.
Digging done. Another half bucket of stones moved to a different part of the garden. Now to decide what is to go in there. I think another block of corn might be in order. With stakes and twine to stop the wind flattening it in the inevitable Hot North Wind Days in January and February…
Morning, working at this time of year blows hard … hot and windy in the Styx.
poikilotherm said:
Morning, working at this time of year blows hard … hot and windy in the Styx.
quite calm with clouds.
30.5°C
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:Good Morning Holidayers. Presently 20 degrees. I’d prefer cooler. Going for 34 today and as the sky is clear at the moment I’d expect that to happen reasonably quickly once the sun is up. It’s quite light already.
So I should do my stretches – which I’ve neglected for a couple of days – and do the little bit of digging I want to do early.
Stretching before exercise is associated with a higher rate of injury, according to some research by the Australian Army. Maybe save them for after?
Good morning Buffy and all.
How about stretching instead of, rather than before?
Good Morning one and all.
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:Good Morning Holidayers. Presently 20 degrees. I’d prefer cooler. Going for 34 today and as the sky is clear at the moment I’d expect that to happen reasonably quickly once the sun is up. It’s quite light already.
So I should do my stretches – which I’ve neglected for a couple of days – and do the little bit of digging I want to do early.
Stretching before exercise is associated with a higher rate of injury, according to some research by the Australian Army. Maybe save them for after?
Good morning Buffy and all.
These are just my “daily” back stretches and the ones to unkink my right sciatic nerve so I can feel the little toes in my right foot.
:)
A small but important detail.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:Good Morning Holidayers. Presently 20 degrees. I’d prefer cooler. Going for 34 today and as the sky is clear at the moment I’d expect that to happen reasonably quickly once the sun is up. It’s quite light already.
So I should do my stretches – which I’ve neglected for a couple of days – and do the little bit of digging I want to do early.
Stretching before exercise is associated with a higher rate of injury, according to some research by the Australian Army. Maybe save them for after?
Good morning Buffy and all.
How about stretching instead of, rather than before?
cats always stretch before moving.
monkey skipper said:
Good Morning one and all.
Bonjour madame.
roughbarked said:
monkey skipper said:
Good Morning one and all.
Bonjour madame.
I think I am awake.
monkey skipper said:
roughbarked said:
monkey skipper said:
Good Morning one and all.
Bonjour madame.
I think I am awake.
They say that pinching oneself may assist in determination of this fact.
The dart throwers have again come up with ba new set of numbers from today to next Thurs. 44°C, 43°C, 40°C, 38°C , 39°C , 39°C, 42°C.
Sleep not so good here, they put me on a slow 10 hour saline drip, it help save the kidneys against antibiotics, but the machine makes noises and it runs out at about 1 in the morning and the alarm goes off.
AwesomeO said:
Sleep not so good here, they put me on a slow 10 hour saline drip, it help save the kidneys against antibiotics, but the machine makes noises and it runs out at about 1 in the morning and the alarm goes off.
Not good. Hard enough sleeping in hot weather without all that noise.

It’s not April is it?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/27/frenchman-bid-cross-atlantic-in-barrel
AwesomeO said:
Sleep not so good here, they put me on a slow 10 hour saline drip, it help save the kidneys against antibiotics, but the machine makes noises and it runs out at about 1 in the morning and the alarm goes off.
in horsepiddle again?
poikilotherm said:
It’s not April is it?https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/27/frenchman-bid-cross-atlantic-in-barrel
He may think it is?
monkey skipper said:
AwesomeO said:
Sleep not so good here, they put me on a slow 10 hour saline drip, it help save the kidneys against antibiotics, but the machine makes noises and it runs out at about 1 in the morning and the alarm goes off.
in horsepiddle again?
Yair’s, since the 18th.
AwesomeO said:
monkey skipper said:
AwesomeO said:
Sleep not so good here, they put me on a slow 10 hour saline drip, it help save the kidneys against antibiotics, but the machine makes noises and it runs out at about 1 in the morning and the alarm goes off.
in horsepiddle again?
Yair’s, since the 18th.
seems like a long stint this time.
Morning.
Dreamed poik did something interesting (so interesting I’ve forgotten what it was), but Matt Damon was in the movie version of this amazing incident and I kept begging poik to get me an autograph. Bastard took a selfie with Matt Damon and posted on the forum instead.
Today we are going to see Ralph Breaks the Internet, after many many months of Mini Me asking to see it. She’s very excited.
‘Compliments and pizza can motivate staff more than bonuses, says behavioural economist Dan Ariely. The New York Times bestselling author shares his ideas on how Facebook, and others, can boost employee morale and ditch ruthless capitalism.’ – ABC News
I do look forward to the day when, instad of a $4 million ‘bonus’, a bank executive gets a pat on the back and a family-size supreme with extra anchovies.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:Good Morning Holidayers. Presently 20 degrees. I’d prefer cooler. Going for 34 today and as the sky is clear at the moment I’d expect that to happen reasonably quickly once the sun is up. It’s quite light already.
So I should do my stretches – which I’ve neglected for a couple of days – and do the little bit of digging I want to do early.
Stretching before exercise is associated with a higher rate of injury, according to some research by the Australian Army. Maybe save them for after?
Good morning Buffy and all.
How about stretching instead of, rather than before?
I thought stretching before exercise was A Good Thing?
captain_spalding said:
‘Compliments and pizza can motivate staff more than bonuses, says behavioural economist Dan Ariely. The New York Times bestselling author shares his ideas on how Facebook, and others, can boost employee morale and ditch ruthless capitalism.’ – ABC NewsI do look forward to the day when, instad of a $4 million ‘bonus’, a bank executive gets a pat on the back and a family-size supreme with extra anchovies.
I used to get a lot of bosses, particularly around Christmas, giving boxes of doughnuts to their employees.
Divine Angel said:
captain_spalding said:
‘Compliments and pizza can motivate staff more than bonuses, says behavioural economist Dan Ariely. The New York Times bestselling author shares his ideas on how Facebook, and others, can boost employee morale and ditch ruthless capitalism.’ – ABC NewsI do look forward to the day when, instad of a $4 million ‘bonus’, a bank executive gets a pat on the back and a family-size supreme with extra anchovies.
I used to get a lot of bosses, particularly around Christmas, giving boxes of doughnuts to their employees.
At least Tiny Tim would not starve on Christmas Day.
monkey skipper said:
AwesomeO said:
monkey skipper said:in horsepiddle again?
Yair’s, since the 18th.
seems like a long stint this time.
Last time was a short one, today is 10 days of antibiotics which is pretty standard for me.
captain_spalding said:
‘Compliments and pizza can motivate staff more than bonuses, says behavioural economist Dan Ariely. The New York Times bestselling author shares his ideas on how Facebook, and others, can boost employee morale and ditch ruthless capitalism.’ – ABC NewsI do look forward to the day when, instad of a $4 million ‘bonus’, a bank executive gets a pat on the back and a family-size supreme with extra anchovies.
To be fair they must be pretty committed individuals, give me a 4 million bonus and you wouldnt see me for dust.
Divine Angel said:
Morning.Dreamed poik did something interesting (so interesting I’ve forgotten what it was), but Matt Damon was in the movie version of this amazing incident and I kept begging poik to get me an autograph. Bastard took a selfie with Matt Damon and posted on the forum instead.
Today we are going to see Ralph Breaks the Internet, after many many months of Mini Me asking to see it. She’s very excited.
heh. I’d do that…but I’d still get the autograph.
Putting stickers on things until 3 then going to the dentist, fun filled day here…
AwesomeO said:
captain_spalding said:
‘Compliments and pizza can motivate staff more than bonuses, says behavioural economist Dan Ariely. The New York Times bestselling author shares his ideas on how Facebook, and others, can boost employee morale and ditch ruthless capitalism.’ – ABC NewsI do look forward to the day when, instad of a $4 million ‘bonus’, a bank executive gets a pat on the back and a family-size supreme with extra anchovies.
To be fair they must be pretty committed individuals, give me a 4 million bonus and you wouldnt see me for dust.
It’s like i said the other day, you give people a sniff of the money (bank execs bonuses are a really big snort of it) ,and they’ll want even more. Peope who get those bonuses know there’sa lot more in the trough yet.
AwesomeO said:
Sleep not so good here, they put me on a slow 10 hour saline drip, it help save the kidneys against antibiotics, but the machine makes noises and it runs out at about 1 in the morning and the alarm goes off.
:(
Sorry to hear that.
:(
captain_spalding said:
‘Compliments and pizza can motivate staff more than bonuses, says behavioural economist Dan Ariely. The New York Times bestselling author shares his ideas on how Facebook, and others, can boost employee morale and ditch ruthless capitalism.’ – ABC NewsI do look forward to the day when, instead of a $4 million ‘bonus’, a bank executive gets a pat on the back and a family-size supreme with extra anchovies.
I’m with you on that.
poikilotherm said:
Divine Angel said:
Morning.Dreamed poik did something interesting (so interesting I’ve forgotten what it was), but Matt Damon was in the movie version of this amazing incident and I kept begging poik to get me an autograph. Bastard took a selfie with Matt Damon and posted on the forum instead.
Today we are going to see Ralph Breaks the Internet, after many many months of Mini Me asking to see it. She’s very excited.
heh. I’d do that…but I’d still get the autograph.
Putting stickers on things until 3 then going to the dentist, fun filled day here…
Fun indeed.
poikilotherm said:
Morning, working at this time of year blows hard … hot and windy in the Styx.
I actually prefer to work during the horrible hot weather because I can’t be outside anyway. But we take two weeks in January because C has a permanent booking at Port Fairy then, going back aeons. Then she has to put up with the other two weeks being in Winter, for me.
Morning.
Back at Rainbow Beach again. Long drive home yesterday. The Bruce Highway was a parking lot, for at least 100 km.
It’s very warm, very humid, and partly cloudy with gentle breezes here, but you all knew it’s be something like that anyway. It usually is.
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:
Morning, working at this time of year blows hard … hot and windy in the Styx.
I actually prefer to work during the horrible hot weather because I can’t be outside anyway. But we take two weeks in January because C has a permanent booking at Port Fairy then, going back aeons. Then she has to put up with the other two weeks being in Winter, for me.
I prefer not working, in any weather.
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:
Morning, working at this time of year blows hard … hot and windy in the Styx.
I actually prefer to work during the horrible hot weather because I can’t be outside anyway. But we take two weeks in January because C has a permanent booking at Port Fairy then, going back aeons. Then she has to put up with the other two weeks being in Winter, for me.
I prefer not working, in any weather.
This.
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
‘Compliments and pizza can motivate staff more than bonuses, says behavioural economist Dan Ariely. The New York Times bestselling author shares his ideas on how Facebook, and others, can boost employee morale and ditch ruthless capitalism.’ – ABC NewsI do look forward to the day when, instead of a $4 million ‘bonus’, a bank executive gets a pat on the back and a family-size supreme with extra anchovies.
I’m with you on that.
I read the news of the Libs support from the over 50’s sliding, and it seems that One Nation is getting their vote. We desperately need a new party to pick up these wandering voters. I’d like to see the Spalding Sensible Party, with policies like the above.
Michael V said:
Back at Rainbow Beach again. Long drive home yesterday. The Bruce Highway was a parking lot, for at least 100 km.
Yep, saw it. We were coming back the other way, returning from dad’s. We were wondering where and why everyone was going.
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:
Morning, working at this time of year blows hard … hot and windy in the Styx.
I actually prefer to work during the horrible hot weather because I can’t be outside anyway. But we take two weeks in January because C has a permanent booking at Port Fairy then, going back aeons. Then she has to put up with the other two weeks being in Winter, for me.
I prefer not working, in any weather.
It’s a shame when you don’t enjoy your work. I think it’s quite sad.
Gnign
Fine… fine. To 32C
Northerly breeze was up a few minutes ago.. but has died down
Michael V said:
Morning.Back at Rainbow Beach again. Long drive home yesterday. The Bruce Highway was a parking lot, for at least 100 km.
It’s very warm, very humid, and partly cloudy with gentle breezes here, but you all knew it’s be something like that anyway. It usually is.
Son is travelling south later in the arvo. Where was the parking lot MV? Will it be the same today?
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:I actually prefer to work during the horrible hot weather because I can’t be outside anyway. But we take two weeks in January because C has a permanent booking at Port Fairy then, going back aeons. Then she has to put up with the other two weeks being in Winter, for me.
I prefer not working, in any weather.
It’s a shame when you don’t enjoy your work. I think it’s quite sad.
I can see that, swmbo enjoys her job, makes me a little jealous (the teaching kids bit not the bureaucracy bit). I just picked the wrong door and it pays ok so I can afford to do things I enjoy instead.
Ian said:
Michael V said:
Morning.Back at Rainbow Beach again. Long drive home yesterday. The Bruce Highway was a parking lot, for at least 100 km.
It’s very warm, very humid, and partly cloudy with gentle breezes here, but you all knew it’s be something like that anyway. It usually is.
Son is travelling south later in the arvo. Where was the parking lot MV? Will it be the same today?
We travelled south yesterday around 2.30ish and we had no traffic issues at all.
We drove to the coast for christmas and stopped at Lithgow on the way back, town has improved a little over the years.
Divine Angel said:
Ian said:
Michael V said:
Morning.Back at Rainbow Beach again. Long drive home yesterday. The Bruce Highway was a parking lot, for at least 100 km.
It’s very warm, very humid, and partly cloudy with gentle breezes here, but you all knew it’s be something like that anyway. It usually is.
Son is travelling south later in the arvo. Where was the parking lot MV? Will it be the same today?
We travelled south yesterday around 2.30ish and we had no traffic issues at all.
Thanks DA.
poikilotherm said:
We drove to the coast for christmas and stopped at Lithgow on the way back, town has improved a little over the years.
Did you visit the Rampaging Roy museum?
Ian said:
Michael V said:
Morning.Back at Rainbow Beach again. Long drive home yesterday. The Bruce Highway was a parking lot, for at least 100 km.
It’s very warm, very humid, and partly cloudy with gentle breezes here, but you all knew it’s be something like that anyway. It usually is.
Son is travelling south later in the arvo. Where was the parking lot MV? Will it be the same today?
We went Lion’s Road and Mt Lindsey Highway to Brisbane. Brisbane and the inner city were an uncongested dream.
Parking lot started on Gympie Rd well north of Brisbane, but still in the suburbs, and continued onto Bruce Highway. Bruce Highway was on and off slow or stopped to well past the very last Sunshine Coast turnoff (going north) and moderately slow and quite congested to Gympie.
The south-bound lanes appeared on-and-off congested, but were moving along OK.
I can’t report about the highway south of Brisbane, because we didn’t travel that way.
Will it be the same today? I hope not for your son’s sake, but I really have no idea.
Michael V said:
Ian said:
Michael V said:
Morning.Back at Rainbow Beach again. Long drive home yesterday. The Bruce Highway was a parking lot, for at least 100 km.
It’s very warm, very humid, and partly cloudy with gentle breezes here, but you all knew it’s be something like that anyway. It usually is.
Son is travelling south later in the arvo. Where was the parking lot MV? Will it be the same today?
We went Lion’s Road and Mt Lindsey Highway to Brisbane. Brisbane and the inner city were an uncongested dream.
Parking lot started on Gympie Rd well north of Brisbane, but still in the suburbs, and continued onto Bruce Highway. Bruce Highway was on and off slow or stopped to well past the very last Sunshine Coast turnoff (going north) and moderately slow and quite congested to Gympie.
The south-bound lanes appeared on-and-off congested, but were moving along OK.
I can’t report about the highway south of Brisbane, because we didn’t travel that way.
Will it be the same today? I hope not for your son’s sake, but I really have no idea.
Ta MV.
Did you have an extended stay at Chez Woodie grubbing stumps and stuff?
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:
Morning, working at this time of year blows hard … hot and windy in the Styx.
I actually prefer to work during the horrible hot weather because I can’t be outside anyway. But we take two weeks in January because C has a permanent booking at Port Fairy then, going back aeons. Then she has to put up with the other two weeks being in Winter, for me.
I prefer not working, in any weather.
hear hear.
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:I prefer not working, in any weather.
It’s a shame when you don’t enjoy your work. I think it’s quite sad.
I can see that, swmbo enjoys her job, makes me a little jealous (the teaching kids bit not the bureaucracy bit). I just picked the wrong door and it pays ok so I can afford to do things I enjoy instead.
If slapping stickers on pays the bills, so be it.
roughbarked said:
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:It’s a shame when you don’t enjoy your work. I think it’s quite sad.
I can see that, swmbo enjoys her job, makes me a little jealous (the teaching kids bit not the bureaucracy bit). I just picked the wrong door and it pays ok so I can afford to do things I enjoy instead.
If slapping stickers on pays the bills, so be it.
For me, hot weather is something I’ve always had to work in. In expending joules that is. Same in cold weather. Enjoying your work is one thing. The weather is another.
This is one of my corn blocks, with due attention to prevailing Summer winds and prevailing playing dogs…the blue haytwine catches the plants (when they are taller) and instead of having a flattened crop, they get to live again. And the dogs seem to have (mostly) learned not to pass the stockade.
Of course, in the early stages the garden does look rather like there has been a stick invasion…
Ian said:
Michael V said:
Ian said:Son is travelling south later in the arvo. Where was the parking lot MV? Will it be the same today?
We went Lion’s Road and Mt Lindsey Highway to Brisbane. Brisbane and the inner city were an uncongested dream.
Parking lot started on Gympie Rd well north of Brisbane, but still in the suburbs, and continued onto Bruce Highway. Bruce Highway was on and off slow or stopped to well past the very last Sunshine Coast turnoff (going north) and moderately slow and quite congested to Gympie.
The south-bound lanes appeared on-and-off congested, but were moving along OK.
I can’t report about the highway south of Brisbane, because we didn’t travel that way.
Will it be the same today? I hope not for your son’s sake, but I really have no idea.
Ta MV.
Did you have an extended stay at Chez Woodie grubbing stumps and stuff?
Yeah.
:)
Good times. Some serious work. Some serious food. Some serious drinking. Luckily I live in a holiday village so can come home and have a holiday.
:)
But then there are the apples, looking good. Granny Smith, Jonathan, Red Delicious.
……..
……..
buffy said:
But then there are the apples, looking good. Granny Smith, Jonathan, Red Delicious.
……..
……..
My apples are being eaten as fast as they ripen.
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:
Morning, working at this time of year blows hard … hot and windy in the Styx.
I actually prefer to work during the horrible hot weather because I can’t be outside anyway. But we take two weeks in January because C has a permanent booking at Port Fairy then, going back aeons. Then she has to put up with the other two weeks being in Winter, for me.
I prefer not working, in any weather.
Someone asked me a while back, ‘who do you work for these days?’.
‘Oh’, i said, ‘i’ve never worked for anyone…’
captain_spalding said:
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:I actually prefer to work during the horrible hot weather because I can’t be outside anyway. But we take two weeks in January because C has a permanent booking at Port Fairy then, going back aeons. Then she has to put up with the other two weeks being in Winter, for me.
I prefer not working, in any weather.
Someone asked me a while back, ‘who do you work for these days?’.
‘Oh’, i said, ‘i’ve never worked for anyone…’
and you’d be correct.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
poikilotherm said:I prefer not working, in any weather.
Someone asked me a while back, ‘who do you work for these days?’.
‘Oh’, i said, ‘i’ve never worked for anyone…’
and you’d be correct.
It’s a good lurk, until management works it out, and then it’s time to move on.
buffy said:
This is one of my corn blocks, with due attention to prevailing Summer winds and prevailing playing dogs…the blue haytwine catches the plants (when they are taller) and instead of having a flattened crop, they get to live again. And the dogs seem to have (mostly) learned not to pass the stockade.
Of course, in the early stages the garden does look rather like there has been a stick invasion…
SWMBO asked me to plant corn in the hope it would be ready when the two granddaughters come to stay in early January. I told her I’d be lucky to be able to water it well enough.
As it is today;
Ian said:
poikilotherm said:
We drove to the coast for christmas and stopped at Lithgow on the way back, town has improved a little over the years.
Did you visit the Rampaging Roy museum?
Notable for it’s acknowledgement of Roy’s debt to Lithgow sporting figure ‘Graddy’ Grannell.
I visited the small Arms museum there several years ago. Very well presented.
It wasthere that i picked up a rifle for the first time in over fifteen, years, and probably for the last time ever. It was sort of a pilgrimage, and i felt that i was handing back the last piece of issued kit. I walked out of there feeling a little bit lighter.
captain_spalding said:
Ian said:
poikilotherm said:
We drove to the coast for christmas and stopped at Lithgow on the way back, town has improved a little over the years.
Did you visit the Rampaging Roy museum?
Notable for it’s acknowledgement of Roy’s debt to Lithgow sporting figure ‘Graddy’ Grannell.
I visited the small Arms museum there several years ago. Very well presented.
It wasthere that i picked up a rifle for the first time in over fifteen, years, and probably for the last time ever. It was sort of a pilgrimage, and i felt that i was handing back the last piece of issued kit. I walked out of there feeling a little bit lighter.
‘Grassy Grannell. Can’t believe i did that.
captain_spalding said:
Ian said:
poikilotherm said:
We drove to the coast for christmas and stopped at Lithgow on the way back, town has improved a little over the years.
Did you visit the Rampaging Roy museum?
Notable for it’s acknowledgement of Roy’s debt to Lithgow sporting figure ‘Graddy’ Grannell.
I visited the small Arms museum there several years ago. Very well presented.
It wasthere that i picked up a rifle for the first time in over fifteen, years, and probably for the last time ever. It was sort of a pilgrimage, and i felt that i was handing back the last piece of issued kit. I walked out of there feeling a little bit lighter.
I used to own a Lithgow single shot. Awesome piece. Very accurate.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
This is one of my corn blocks, with due attention to prevailing Summer winds and prevailing playing dogs…the blue haytwine catches the plants (when they are taller) and instead of having a flattened crop, they get to live again. And the dogs seem to have (mostly) learned not to pass the stockade.
Of course, in the early stages the garden does look rather like there has been a stick invasion…
SWMBO asked me to plant corn in the hope it would be ready when the two granddaughters come to stay in early January. I told her I’d be lucky to be able to water it well enough.
As it is today;
Can’t plant corn or carrot seed here until the end of November. Won’t germinate. I’ve tried.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
Ian said:Did you visit the Rampaging Roy museum?
Notable for it’s acknowledgement of Roy’s debt to Lithgow sporting figure ‘Graddy’ Grannell.
I visited the small Arms museum there several years ago. Very well presented.
It wasthere that i picked up a rifle for the first time in over fifteen, years, and probably for the last time ever. It was sort of a pilgrimage, and i felt that i was handing back the last piece of issued kit. I walked out of there feeling a little bit lighter.
I used to own a Lithgow single shot. Awesome piece. Very accurate.
Lithgow sporting rifles were usually made using surplus barrel blanks intended for military rifles. Very strict specs and quality workmanship
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
This is one of my corn blocks, with due attention to prevailing Summer winds and prevailing playing dogs…the blue haytwine catches the plants (when they are taller) and instead of having a flattened crop, they get to live again. And the dogs seem to have (mostly) learned not to pass the stockade.
Of course, in the early stages the garden does look rather like there has been a stick invasion…
SWMBO asked me to plant corn in the hope it would be ready when the two granddaughters come to stay in early January. I told her I’d be lucky to be able to water it well enough.
As it is today;
Can’t plant corn or carrot seed here until the end of November. Won’t germinate. I’ve tried.
Yep. Also the other way. Your soil was still too cold. Right now, my soil is too hot.
Okay. This one is running late.

captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
Ian said:Did you visit the Rampaging Roy museum?
Notable for it’s acknowledgement of Roy’s debt to Lithgow sporting figure ‘Graddy’ Grannell.
I visited the small Arms museum there several years ago. Very well presented.
It wasthere that i picked up a rifle for the first time in over fifteen, years, and probably for the last time ever. It was sort of a pilgrimage, and i felt that i was handing back the last piece of issued kit. I walked out of there feeling a little bit lighter.
‘Grassy Grannell. Can’t believe i did that.
I’m not familiar with Grassy. Is he a JD alter ego?
I wouldn’t mind having a rifle now. There is an old man wallaby that has been hanging around for a while.. just standing in the old shed etc. He is so arthritic he can’t perform a single hop.. he just “walks” quickly.

Australian People Through the Years
15 hrs ·
THE STORY OF LENNIE GWYTHER AND GINGER MICK
Lennie was born on the 18th April, 1922, the first child to Leo and Clara Gwyther. His home was ‘Flers’, a farm just outside the small country town of Leongatha. When Lennie was two years old, his Grandparents gave him as birthday present, a two year old colt named Ginger Mick.
Construction of the Sydney Harbour Bridge had commenced in 1923, and as Lennie grew into a school child his fascination with the amazing construction grew with him, and when the halves of the bridge were joined in 1930, he dreamed of attending the opening.
When Lennie was 9 years old, his beloved father ‘The Captain’ suffered a broken leg and had to be taken to hospital in Melbourne. During the time his father was unwell, Lennie took over many of the farm duties. When his father recovered and returned home he was amazed at the work Lennie had done, and offered him a reward for his efforts – Lennie asked to be allowed to ride Ginger Mick to Sydney, to see the opening of the Harbour Bridge.
After much planning (and agreement from Lennies mother), Lennie set off on his journey on 3rd February 1932. He rode for over 600 miles to arrive in Sydney in time for the opening on the 19 March 1932. Over the course of his ride, the newspaper reports of a boy riding his horse to Sydney made him so famous he was invited to take part in the procession after the opening.
Lennie and Ginger Mick made the return 600 mile journey to Leongatha, arriving at the family farm in mid April 1932, just after his 10th Birthday.
Life went back to normal for Lennie after his adventure, he helped his family on the farm, and he enlisted in the Army at 19 during the Second World War. When the war was over, he returned to Australia from the Pacific and worked with General Motors Holden. Lennie died in 1992.
https://youtu.be/X3z7RyDu4Tk
Ian said:
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:Notable for it’s acknowledgement of Roy’s debt to Lithgow sporting figure ‘Graddy’ Grannell.
I visited the small Arms museum there several years ago. Very well presented.
It wasthere that i picked up a rifle for the first time in over fifteen, years, and probably for the last time ever. It was sort of a pilgrimage, and i felt that i was handing back the last piece of issued kit. I walked out of there feeling a little bit lighter.
‘Grassy Grannell. Can’t believe i did that.
I’m not familiar with Grassy. Is he a JD alter ego?
I wouldn’t mind having a rifle now. There is an old man wallaby that has been hanging around for a while.. just standing in the old shed etc. He is so arthritic he can’t perform a single hop.. he just “walks” quickly.
There are times when having a rifle is a good thing.
sarahs mum said:
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Australian People Through the Years
15 hrs ·THE STORY OF LENNIE GWYTHER AND GINGER MICK
Lennie was born on the 18th April, 1922, the first child to Leo and Clara Gwyther. His home was ‘Flers’, a farm just outside the small country town of Leongatha. When Lennie was two years old, his Grandparents gave him as birthday present, a two year old colt named Ginger Mick.
Construction of the Sydney Harbour Bridge had commenced in 1923, and as Lennie grew into a school child his fascination with the amazing construction grew with him, and when the halves of the bridge were joined in 1930, he dreamed of attending the opening.
When Lennie was 9 years old, his beloved father ‘The Captain’ suffered a broken leg and had to be taken to hospital in Melbourne. During the time his father was unwell, Lennie took over many of the farm duties. When his father recovered and returned home he was amazed at the work Lennie had done, and offered him a reward for his efforts – Lennie asked to be allowed to ride Ginger Mick to Sydney, to see the opening of the Harbour Bridge.
After much planning (and agreement from Lennies mother), Lennie set off on his journey on 3rd February 1932. He rode for over 600 miles to arrive in Sydney in time for the opening on the 19 March 1932. Over the course of his ride, the newspaper reports of a boy riding his horse to Sydney made him so famous he was invited to take part in the procession after the opening.
Lennie and Ginger Mick made the return 600 mile journey to Leongatha, arriving at the family farm in mid April 1932, just after his 10th Birthday.
Life went back to normal for Lennie after his adventure, he helped his family on the farm, and he enlisted in the Army at 19 during the Second World War. When the war was over, he returned to Australia from the Pacific and worked with General Motors Holden. Lennie died in 1992.
https://youtu.be/X3z7RyDu4Tk
Nice story.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
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Australian People Through the Years
15 hrs ·THE STORY OF LENNIE GWYTHER AND GINGER MICK
Lennie was born on the 18th April, 1922, the first child to Leo and Clara Gwyther. His home was ‘Flers’, a farm just outside the small country town of Leongatha. When Lennie was two years old, his Grandparents gave him as birthday present, a two year old colt named Ginger Mick.
Construction of the Sydney Harbour Bridge had commenced in 1923, and as Lennie grew into a school child his fascination with the amazing construction grew with him, and when the halves of the bridge were joined in 1930, he dreamed of attending the opening.
When Lennie was 9 years old, his beloved father ‘The Captain’ suffered a broken leg and had to be taken to hospital in Melbourne. During the time his father was unwell, Lennie took over many of the farm duties. When his father recovered and returned home he was amazed at the work Lennie had done, and offered him a reward for his efforts – Lennie asked to be allowed to ride Ginger Mick to Sydney, to see the opening of the Harbour Bridge.
After much planning (and agreement from Lennies mother), Lennie set off on his journey on 3rd February 1932. He rode for over 600 miles to arrive in Sydney in time for the opening on the 19 March 1932. Over the course of his ride, the newspaper reports of a boy riding his horse to Sydney made him so famous he was invited to take part in the procession after the opening.
Lennie and Ginger Mick made the return 600 mile journey to Leongatha, arriving at the family farm in mid April 1932, just after his 10th Birthday.
Life went back to normal for Lennie after his adventure, he helped his family on the farm, and he enlisted in the Army at 19 during the Second World War. When the war was over, he returned to Australia from the Pacific and worked with General Motors Holden. Lennie died in 1992.
https://youtu.be/X3z7RyDu4TkNice story.
And I hadn’t heard it before. I also checked out the song on youtube…which is a bit awful country music. But at the end it said that Lennie was in Morotai at the of WW2. That puts him in some of the same places as my Dad a few times.
Morning ollidee Fridays. :)
26.4C & 50% indoors
28.9C & 41% outdoors
1017 hPa and steady
Trending sunny.
Headed for 33C
No moolies to report, or ever again by the looks of it.
Woodie said:
Morning ollidee Fridays. :)26.4C & 50% indoors
28.9C & 41% outdoors1017 hPa and steady
Trending sunny.
Headed for 33C
No moolies to report, or ever again by the looks of it.
At least we have got a chance of 1-4mm tomorrow.

Outdoor cinema for 2 last night on Maatsuyker Island.

Now that is a long contract
dv said:
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Now that is a long contract
Please let it be over soon.
Military Times article
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2018/12/27/in-iraq-visit-trump-makes-false-claim-about-military-pay-again/
In Iraq visit, Trump makes false claims about military pay again
President Donald Trump’s visit to Iraq this week brought with it another round of controversy surrounding White House claims about military pay, as the commander in chief again incorrectly claimed he provided the troops with their first raise in more than a decade.“You haven’t gotten one in more than 10 years. More than 10 years!” he told a crowd of applauding service members during his remarks at Al Asad Air Base in Iraq on Wednesday. “And we got you a big one. I got you a big one.”
Trump has repeatedly claimed that troops hadn’t seen a pay raise during President Barack Obama’s time in the White House. In fact, troops have seen a pay raise of at least 1 percent every year for more than 30 years.
The president also appeared to claim he pushed for a 10 percent pay raise in 2019, even though the actual rate his administration publicly supported and eventually got approved was only 2.6 percent.
“ we could make it 3 percent. We could make it 2 percent. We could make it 4 percent,” he told the troops. “I said, ‘No, make it 10 percent. Make it more than 10 percent.’ Because it’s been a long time. It’s been more than 10 years. That’s a long time.”
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I mean … how does this play with the soldiers he is addressing? They know they’ve had pay raises every year. They know they didn’t get a 10% raise. He must surely know they know. wtfTrump is the baboon.
roughbarked said:
Trump is the baboon.
Donald Trump and Mike pence…
Micky and Donald running the country .. Walt Disney would be so proud
Iced coffee made with half of this morning’s cappuccino. It works sooooo well. With icecream and whipped cream.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-28/girl-dies-in-fall-from-scenic-arizona-overlook-of-colorado-river/10671400
Long way down. Time for terror to set in.
42.2°C
The corn is thirstily consuming all the hose can apply.buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-28/girl-dies-in-fall-from-scenic-arizona-overlook-of-colorado-river/10671400
Long way down. Time for terror to set in.
Enough time to recall the words of hail mary?
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-28/girl-dies-in-fall-from-scenic-arizona-overlook-of-colorado-river/10671400
Long way down. Time for terror to set in.
Around 6 seconds until splat.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-28/girl-dies-in-fall-from-scenic-arizona-overlook-of-colorado-river/10671400
Long way down. Time for terror to set in.
Enough time to recall the words of hail mary?
So long it’s been good to know you.
And for something not so horrible, progress report on my swan curtain I am crocheting. This is the pattern in the book:
I’ve done 11 rows of pattern now. Each row takes 15 to 20 minutes because at this stage I am counting the blocks all the time. Once I get to the netting above the swans it will be quicker. You can just about see the bottom of the swans forming now. I quite like the way the picture comes out slowly with this sort of crocheting, despite the concentration required.
buffy said:
And for something not so horrible, progress report on my swan curtain I am crocheting. This is the pattern in the book:
I’ve done 11 rows of pattern now. Each row takes 15 to 20 minutes because at this stage I am counting the blocks all the time. Once I get to the netting above the swans it will be quicker. You can just about see the bottom of the swans forming now. I quite like the way the picture comes out slowly with this sort of crocheting, despite the concentration required.
You could probably run that through a Pianola.
Ian said:
I wouldn’t mind having a rifle now. There is an old man wallaby that has been hanging around for a while.. just standing in the old shed etc. He is so arthritic he can’t perform a single hop.. he just “walks” quickly.
Then again, there are some people who should never, ever have access to firearms:
ABC News:
“A man accused of accidentally shooting another man dead on a property in north-west NSW has been granted bail after appearing in court.
Police allege late on Wednesday night, Adnan Al Youssef took a rifle out of his car to clean it when a round discharged.
A 23-year-old man was hit and died at the Bundella property, about 100 kilometres west of Quirindi”
captain_spalding said:
Ian said:I wouldn’t mind having a rifle now. There is an old man wallaby that has been hanging around for a while.. just standing in the old shed etc. He is so arthritic he can’t perform a single hop.. he just “walks” quickly.
Then again, there are some people who should never, ever have access to firearms:
ABC News:
“A man accused of accidentally shooting another man dead on a property in north-west NSW has been granted bail after appearing in court.
Police allege late on Wednesday night, Adnan Al Youssef took a rifle out of his car to clean it when a round discharged.
A 23-year-old man was hit and died at the Bundella property, about 100 kilometres west of Quirindi”
Adnan Al Youssef. Hmmm.
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:
Ian said:I wouldn’t mind having a rifle now. There is an old man wallaby that has been hanging around for a while.. just standing in the old shed etc. He is so arthritic he can’t perform a single hop.. he just “walks” quickly.
Then again, there are some people who should never, ever have access to firearms:
ABC News:
“A man accused of accidentally shooting another man dead on a property in north-west NSW has been granted bail after appearing in court.
Police allege late on Wednesday night, Adnan Al Youssef took a rifle out of his car to clean it when a round discharged.
A 23-year-old man was hit and died at the Bundella property, about 100 kilometres west of Quirindi”
Adnan Al Youssef. Hmmm.
All i’ll say is: you know all those AK-47s you see people from some parts of the world waving about in news videos?
Well, i can tell you that they’re all loaded, they all have a round in the chamber, and none of the people holding them has ever even heard of the ‘safe’ position on the selector lever.
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:Then again, there are some people who should never, ever have access to firearms:
ABC News:
“A man accused of accidentally shooting another man dead on a property in north-west NSW has been granted bail after appearing in court.
Police allege late on Wednesday night, Adnan Al Youssef took a rifle out of his car to clean it when a round discharged.
A 23-year-old man was hit and died at the Bundella property, about 100 kilometres west of Quirindi”
Adnan Al Youssef. Hmmm.
All i’ll say is: you know all those AK-47s you see people from some parts of the world waving about in news videos?
Well, i can tell you that they’re all loaded, they all have a round in the chamber, and none of the people holding them has ever even heard of the ‘safe’ position on the selector lever.
They think “safe” is when it’s pointing at a white soldier.
Peak Warming Man said:
:)
buffy said:
And for something not so horrible, progress report on my swan curtain I am crocheting. This is the pattern in the book:
I’ve done 11 rows of pattern now. Each row takes 15 to 20 minutes because at this stage I am counting the blocks all the time. Once I get to the netting above the swans it will be quicker. You can just about see the bottom of the swans forming now. I quite like the way the picture comes out slowly with this sort of crocheting, despite the concentration required.
You could probably run that through a Pianola.
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:
Ian said:I wouldn’t mind having a rifle now. There is an old man wallaby that has been hanging around for a while.. just standing in the old shed etc. He is so arthritic he can’t perform a single hop.. he just “walks” quickly.
Then again, there are some people who should never, ever have access to firearms:
ABC News:
“A man accused of accidentally shooting another man dead on a property in north-west NSW has been granted bail after appearing in court.
Police allege late on Wednesday night, Adnan Al Youssef took a rifle out of his car to clean it when a round discharged.
A 23-year-old man was hit and died at the Bundella property, about 100 kilometres west of Quirindi”
Adnan Al Youssef. Hmmm.
All purported accidents with guns come from handling or cleaning a firearm that was still loaded.
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:Then again, there are some people who should never, ever have access to firearms:
ABC News:
“A man accused of accidentally shooting another man dead on a property in north-west NSW has been granted bail after appearing in court.
Police allege late on Wednesday night, Adnan Al Youssef took a rifle out of his car to clean it when a round discharged.
A 23-year-old man was hit and died at the Bundella property, about 100 kilometres west of Quirindi”
Adnan Al Youssef. Hmmm.
All purported accidents with guns come from handling or cleaning a firearm that was still loaded.
Sometimes they come from deliberately firing a firearm without checking that the area was clear of humans…
dv said:
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:Adnan Al Youssef. Hmmm.
All purported accidents with guns come from handling or cleaning a firearm that was still loaded.
Sometimes they come from deliberately firing a firearm without checking that the area was clear of humans…
true too but rarer in reporting that way at least.
Woohoo dentist time …
A huge explosion and fire at a New York power plant have turned the sky above parts of the city a bright blue-green.
Many Manhattanites were stunned when the sky over parts of Queens started to glow a bright neon blue shortly after 9pm on Thursday night.
Scores posted footage of the glowing skyline to social media, saying the sky was “bright as day”. Footage of the scene showed the sky flickering a bright blue-green for several minutes.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/28/new-york-sky-bright-blue-lights-explosion-astoria-power-plant-queens?CMP=soc_567&fbclid=IwAR3QIhDjRZn9r-l0BJwcvJjHkn0Jf-Yhw6pSZWYvin4lmZf1lodoA9YLqOg

dv said:
A huge explosion and fire at a New York power plant have turned the sky above parts of the city a bright blue-green.Many Manhattanites were stunned when the sky over parts of Queens started to glow a bright neon blue shortly after 9pm on Thursday night.
Scores posted footage of the glowing skyline to social media, saying the sky was “bright as day”. Footage of the scene showed the sky flickering a bright blue-green for several minutes.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/28/new-york-sky-bright-blue-lights-explosion-astoria-power-plant-queens?CMP=soc_567&fbclid=IwAR3QIhDjRZn9r-l0BJwcvJjHkn0Jf-Yhw6pSZWYvin4lmZf1lodoA9YLqOg
Probably a Sumerian deity of some description…
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
A huge explosion and fire at a New York power plant have turned the sky above parts of the city a bright blue-green.Many Manhattanites were stunned when the sky over parts of Queens started to glow a bright neon blue shortly after 9pm on Thursday night.
Scores posted footage of the glowing skyline to social media, saying the sky was “bright as day”. Footage of the scene showed the sky flickering a bright blue-green for several minutes.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/28/new-york-sky-bright-blue-lights-explosion-astoria-power-plant-queens?CMP=soc_567&fbclid=IwAR3QIhDjRZn9r-l0BJwcvJjHkn0Jf-Yhw6pSZWYvin4lmZf1lodoA9YLqOg
Probably a Sumerian deity of some description…
Probably just a portal or something
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-28/elon-musk-says-cave-rescuer-defamation-case-should-be-dismissed/10671066
Elon Musk’s ‘pedo guy’ Twitter comments just ‘imaginative attacks’, defamation defence claims
Elon Musk’s lawyers have asked a judge to dismiss a defamation lawsuit by a British diver who the Tesla chief executive had labelled a “pedo guy”, arguing the comments were “just imaginative attacks” protected by the US constitution’s first amendment.
In a filing with the US District Court in Los Angeles, the lawyers also defended their client by saying Mr Musk posted the comments on Twitter, where participants “expect to read opinions, not facts”.
Mr Musk’s “over-the-top” comments came amid a “schoolyard spat on social media” and no-one could have reasonably believed they were truthful, they said.
Diver Vernon Unsworth, who helped rescue the soccer team trapped in a Thailand cave earlier this year, is suing Mr Musk for defamation over a tweet on July 15 to the CEO’s 22 million followers.
Mr Musk posted the tweet without evidence and later apologised.
Despite that, he later urged a BuzzFeed News reporter in an August 30 email to investigate Mr Unsworth and “stop defending child rapists”.
Mr Unsworth has said there is no truth to those allegations.
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
A huge explosion and fire at a New York power plant have turned the sky above parts of the city a bright blue-green.Many Manhattanites were stunned when the sky over parts of Queens started to glow a bright neon blue shortly after 9pm on Thursday night.
Scores posted footage of the glowing skyline to social media, saying the sky was “bright as day”. Footage of the scene showed the sky flickering a bright blue-green for several minutes.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/28/new-york-sky-bright-blue-lights-explosion-astoria-power-plant-queens?CMP=soc_567&fbclid=IwAR3QIhDjRZn9r-l0BJwcvJjHkn0Jf-Yhw6pSZWYvin4lmZf1lodoA9YLqOg
Probably a Sumerian deity of some description…
Probably just a portal or something
Looks a bit mushroom cloudy to me.
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-28/elon-musk-says-cave-rescuer-defamation-case-should-be-dismissed/10671066Elon Musk’s ‘pedo guy’ Twitter comments just ‘imaginative attacks’, defamation defence claims
Elon Musk’s lawyers have asked a judge to dismiss a defamation lawsuit by a British diver who the Tesla chief executive had labelled a “pedo guy”, arguing the comments were “just imaginative attacks” protected by the US constitution’s first amendment.
In a filing with the US District Court in Los Angeles, the lawyers also defended their client by saying Mr Musk posted the comments on Twitter, where participants “expect to read opinions, not facts”.
Mr Musk’s “over-the-top” comments came amid a “schoolyard spat on social media” and no-one could have reasonably believed they were truthful, they said.
Diver Vernon Unsworth, who helped rescue the soccer team trapped in a Thailand cave earlier this year, is suing Mr Musk for defamation over a tweet on July 15 to the CEO’s 22 million followers.
Mr Musk posted the tweet without evidence and later apologised.
Despite that, he later urged a BuzzFeed News reporter in an August 30 email to investigate Mr Unsworth and “stop defending child rapists”.
Mr Unsworth has said there is no truth to those allegations.
‘expect to read opinions not facts’ There is almost no-one of note who uses twitter to post facts…
Arts said:
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-28/elon-musk-says-cave-rescuer-defamation-case-should-be-dismissed/10671066Elon Musk’s ‘pedo guy’ Twitter comments just ‘imaginative attacks’, defamation defence claims
Elon Musk’s lawyers have asked a judge to dismiss a defamation lawsuit by a British diver who the Tesla chief executive had labelled a “pedo guy”, arguing the comments were “just imaginative attacks” protected by the US constitution’s first amendment.
In a filing with the US District Court in Los Angeles, the lawyers also defended their client by saying Mr Musk posted the comments on Twitter, where participants “expect to read opinions, not facts”.
Mr Musk’s “over-the-top” comments came amid a “schoolyard spat on social media” and no-one could have reasonably believed they were truthful, they said.
Diver Vernon Unsworth, who helped rescue the soccer team trapped in a Thailand cave earlier this year, is suing Mr Musk for defamation over a tweet on July 15 to the CEO’s 22 million followers.
Mr Musk posted the tweet without evidence and later apologised.
Despite that, he later urged a BuzzFeed News reporter in an August 30 email to investigate Mr Unsworth and “stop defending child rapists”.
Mr Unsworth has said there is no truth to those allegations.
‘expect to read opinions not facts’ There is almost no-one of note who uses twitter to post facts…
I wish there was almost no-one of note who used Twitter
party_pants said:
Arts said:
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-28/elon-musk-says-cave-rescuer-defamation-case-should-be-dismissed/10671066Elon Musk’s ‘pedo guy’ Twitter comments just ‘imaginative attacks’, defamation defence claims
Elon Musk’s lawyers have asked a judge to dismiss a defamation lawsuit by a British diver who the Tesla chief executive had labelled a “pedo guy”, arguing the comments were “just imaginative attacks” protected by the US constitution’s first amendment.
In a filing with the US District Court in Los Angeles, the lawyers also defended their client by saying Mr Musk posted the comments on Twitter, where participants “expect to read opinions, not facts”.
Mr Musk’s “over-the-top” comments came amid a “schoolyard spat on social media” and no-one could have reasonably believed they were truthful, they said.
Diver Vernon Unsworth, who helped rescue the soccer team trapped in a Thailand cave earlier this year, is suing Mr Musk for defamation over a tweet on July 15 to the CEO’s 22 million followers.
Mr Musk posted the tweet without evidence and later apologised.
Despite that, he later urged a BuzzFeed News reporter in an August 30 email to investigate Mr Unsworth and “stop defending child rapists”.
Mr Unsworth has said there is no truth to those allegations.
‘expect to read opinions not facts’ There is almost no-one of note who uses twitter to post facts…
I wish there was almost no-one of note who used Twitter
except Lauren Naturale
captain_spalding said:
Ian said:I wouldn’t mind having a rifle now. There is an old man wallaby that has been hanging around for a while.. just standing in the old shed etc. He is so arthritic he can’t perform a single hop.. he just “walks” quickly.
Then again, there are some people who should never, ever have access to firearms:
ABC News:
“A man accused of accidentally shooting another man dead on a property in north-west NSW has been granted bail after appearing in court.
Police allege late on Wednesday night, Adnan Al Youssef took a rifle out of his car to clean it when a round discharged.
A 23-year-old man was hit and died at the Bundella property, about 100 kilometres west of Quirindi”
That’s what the people behind claimed when they shot out my bedroom window. I was about seven years old at the time. If I’d been standing up looking out the window, I’d not be telling the story.
dv said:
A huge explosion and fire at a New York power plant have turned the sky above parts of the city a bright blue-green.Many Manhattanites were stunned when the sky over parts of Queens started to glow a bright neon blue shortly after 9pm on Thursday night.
Scores posted footage of the glowing skyline to social media, saying the sky was “bright as day”. Footage of the scene showed the sky flickering a bright blue-green for several minutes.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/28/new-york-sky-bright-blue-lights-explosion-astoria-power-plant-queens?CMP=soc_567&fbclid=IwAR3QIhDjRZn9r-l0BJwcvJjHkn0Jf-Yhw6pSZWYvin4lmZf1lodoA9YLqOg
And that folks, is why it requires certain verification codes for nuclear retaliation to be started.
dv said:
A huge explosion and fire at a New York power plant have turned the sky above parts of the city a bright blue-green.Many Manhattanites were stunned when the sky over parts of Queens started to glow a bright neon blue shortly after 9pm on Thursday night.
Scores posted footage of the glowing skyline to social media, saying the sky was “bright as day”. Footage of the scene showed the sky flickering a bright blue-green for several minutes.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/28/new-york-sky-bright-blue-lights-explosion-astoria-power-plant-queens?CMP=soc_567&fbclid=IwAR3QIhDjRZn9r-l0BJwcvJjHkn0Jf-Yhw6pSZWYvin4lmZf1lodoA9YLqOg
You know what it actually is is a mega MIB neurolizer. You just end up remembering the blue glow and forget the extradimensional being invading our reality for the lolz
American endurance athlete becomes the first person to cross Antarctica solo
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/27/world/colin-obrady-antarctica-solo-trip-trnd/index.html
American endurance athlete Colin O’Brady became the first person to cross Antarctica solo without help after 54 days traversing the barren, frigid continent, he said in an Instagram post.
Moree.
Fun fact – The Great Dividing Range is the third longest mountain range (above sea) in the world.
What to do….
dv said:
American endurance athlete becomes the first person to cross Antarctica solohttps://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/27/world/colin-obrady-antarctica-solo-trip-trnd/index.html
American endurance athlete Colin O’Brady became the first person to cross Antarctica solo without help after 54 days traversing the barren, frigid continent, he said in an Instagram post.
Trying to escape Trump?
Rule 303 said:
Moree.Fun fact – The Great Dividing Range is the third longest mountain range (above sea) in the world.
What to do….
Walk it. ?
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:
Moree.Fun fact – The Great Dividing Range is the third longest mountain range (above sea) in the world.
What to do….
Walk it. ?
Pretty confident MrsRule wouldn’t support that.
This motel WiFi is very quick, but it boots me off every ten minutes or so. Hmmm….
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:
Moree.Fun fact – The Great Dividing Range is the third longest mountain range (above sea) in the world.
What to do….
Walk it. ?
I live on top of some of it.
Rule 303 said:
Moree.Fun fact – The Great Dividing Range is the third longest mountain range (above sea) in the world.
What to do….
Visit the MOREE ARTESIAN AQUATIC CENTRE.
https://www.visitnsw.com/destinations/country-nsw/moree-and-narrabri-area/moree/attractions/moree-artesian-aquatic-centre-maac
Been a hot & windy day in the middle of the island, but I’m nonetheless planning a hot dinner.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:
Moree.Fun fact – The Great Dividing Range is the third longest mountain range (above sea) in the world.
What to do….
Walk it. ?
I live on top of some of it.
There are those who argue that the Great Dividing Range is not a mountain range, merely a drainage divide. It often has an escarpment to the east. Often a long way to the east.
Went to the Elvis Museum in Parkes. Quite surprised by how much of the stuff was originally (claimed to be) His. Lots of clothing and personal effects, and some furniture etc…
They have an annual Elvis festival, where they make a hell of a fuss about him.
I don’t care who throws it.
https://i.imgur.com/CoBw7SP.mp4
Bubblecar said:
Rule 303 said:
Moree.Fun fact – The Great Dividing Range is the third longest mountain range (above sea) in the world.
What to do….
Visit the MOREE ARTESIAN AQUATIC CENTRE.
https://www.visitnsw.com/destinations/country-nsw/moree-and-narrabri-area/moree/attractions/moree-artesian-aquatic-centre-maac
Yeah, tempting. We’re just over the road from it but the outside temperature is close enough to 40°, so a hot bath doesn’t sound all that appealing.
Rule 303 said:
Bubblecar said:
Rule 303 said:
Moree.Fun fact – The Great Dividing Range is the third longest mountain range (above sea) in the world.
What to do….
Visit the MOREE ARTESIAN AQUATIC CENTRE.
https://www.visitnsw.com/destinations/country-nsw/moree-and-narrabri-area/moree/attractions/moree-artesian-aquatic-centre-maac
Yeah, tempting. We’re just over the road from it but the outside temperature is close enough to 40°, so a hot bath doesn’t sound all that appealing.
It’s OK, actually. (Although the Moree facility is not so hot as some bore-baths.)
for pf:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-28/dog-rescued-from-frozen-lake-turkey/10672394
Michael V said:
for pf:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-28/dog-rescued-from-frozen-lake-turkey/10672394
Very lucky puppy.
Bubblecar said:
Been a hot & windy day in the middle of the island, but I’m nonetheless planning a hot dinner.
Not windy here.

sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Been a hot & windy day in the middle of the island, but I’m nonetheless planning a hot dinner.
Not windy here.
North-westerly gusts here, coming from Three Hummock Island or suchlike.
I’ve just taken out my empties and am about to wash up.
Doing three-cheese pasta tonight (Parmigiano-Reggiano, gorgonzola, feta) with garlic, onion, rosemary & tomatoes. Really needs basil too but I don’t have any.
I have been watching a MOV file of my brother John playing one of these he made.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ0yGQpAp1Y
arvo all
sarahs mum said:
I have been watching a MOV file of my brother John playing one of these he made.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ0yGQpAp1Y
Cute. Did he travel to the US?
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
I have been watching a MOV file of my brother John playing one of these he made.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ0yGQpAp1Y
Cute. Did he travel to the US?
No.Mostly he made Bodhrans and tippers and washboards. He did Woodford folk festival and the National one in Canberra for many years.It looks like something he would have made for selling at that. (Although the MOV files I have of him playing it are in Casino and Kyogle main streets)
Bubblecar said:
Doing three-cheese pasta tonight (Parmigiano-Reggiano, gorgonzola, feta) with garlic, onion, rosemary & tomatoes. Really needs basil too but I don’t have any.
Just enjoyed an early/late lunch/dinner of battered peppered calamari cooked until tender , dollop of tartare and freshly squeezed lemon juice.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
I have been watching a MOV file of my brother John playing one of these he made.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ0yGQpAp1Y
Cute. Did he travel to the US?
No.Mostly he made Bodhrans and tippers and washboards. He did Woodford folk festival and the National one in Canberra for many years.It looks like something he would have made for selling at that. (Although the MOV files I have of him playing it are in Casino and Kyogle main streets)
I’ve probably actually met him. ;)
sarahs mum said:
I have been watching a MOV file of my brother John playing one of these he made.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ0yGQpAp1Y
:)
monkey skipper said:
Bubblecar said:
Doing three-cheese pasta tonight (Parmigiano-Reggiano, gorgonzola, feta) with garlic, onion, rosemary & tomatoes. Really needs basil too but I don’t have any.
Just enjoyed an early/late lunch/dinner of battered peppered calamari cooked until tender , dollop of tartare and freshly squeezed lemon juice.
That sounds agreeable.
Still feels hot outside – 24 on the thermometer at the back door. Overcast. I’ve put the sprinklers on to call in the rain. It might work.
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:
Bubblecar said:
Doing three-cheese pasta tonight (Parmigiano-Reggiano, gorgonzola, feta) with garlic, onion, rosemary & tomatoes. Really needs basil too but I don’t have any.
Just enjoyed an early/late lunch/dinner of battered peppered calamari cooked until tender , dollop of tartare and freshly squeezed lemon juice.
That sounds agreeable.
My daug is cooking up some calamari
buffy said:
Still feels hot outside – 24 on the thermometer at the back door. Overcast. I’ve put the sprinklers on to call in the rain. It might work.
It only got to 43°C today. currently down to 42.3°C .
Mr buffy has gone around the corner to the shop to procure fish and chips and mini spring rolls. I have put together a couple of salads.
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:Cute. Did he travel to the US?
No.Mostly he made Bodhrans and tippers and washboards. He did Woodford folk festival and the National one in Canberra for many years.It looks like something he would have made for selling at that. (Although the MOV files I have of him playing it are in Casino and Kyogle main streets)
I’ve probably actually met him. ;)
Wouldn’t surprise me.
I already have too many tomatoes to process.
roughbarked said:
I already have too many tomatoes to process.
You need a robot to help you, one of those automatons.
dv said:
roughbarked said:
I already have too many tomatoes to process.
You need a robot to help you, one of those automatons.
would be good, ja.
dv said:
roughbarked said:
I already have too many tomatoes to process.
You need a robot to help you, one of those automatons.
LOL
https://www.facebook.com/ros.meeker/videos/10158102288614554/
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-28/microchipped-school-uniforms-monitor-students-in-china/10671604
It’s an electronic roll call. Like we used to have every morning when I went to school. Goes a bit further, but it’s not really anything other than making sure kids are in class.
I’m reading the news.
>>Meanwhile the builders, developer and engineers behind the project are about to kick off a 10-day “comprehensive investigation” into the crack — the investigation that sparked yesterday’s second evacuation.<<
From: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-28/opal-tower-evacuation-and-crack-sparks-questions-for-industry/10671788
I haven’t seen any mention of the building inspectors so far. The various stages must have been signed off.
buffy said:
I’m reading the news.
>>Meanwhile the builders, developer and engineers behind the project are about to kick off a 10-day “comprehensive investigation” into the crack — the investigation that sparked yesterday’s second evacuation.<<
From: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-28/opal-tower-evacuation-and-crack-sparks-questions-for-industry/10671788
I haven’t seen any mention of the building inspectors so far. The various stages must have been signed off.
The thing I really hate about the whole thing is that you can guarantee that Engineers Australia will be making a power grab out of this.
Bubblecar said:
Doing three-cheese pasta tonight (Parmigiano-Reggiano, gorgonzola, feta) with garlic, onion, rosemary & tomatoes.
+ capers.
Very tasty tucker, if not very well suited to the weather.
sarahs mum said:
https://www.facebook.com/ros.meeker/videos/10158102288614554/
Economical busking. Get a little wooden man to do the fancy footwork.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
https://www.facebook.com/ros.meeker/videos/10158102288614554/
Economical busking. Get a little wooden man to do the fancy footwork.
little wooden men seem not that hard to make.
Watling and Bates eh
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-28/microchipped-school-uniforms-monitor-students-in-china/10671604
It’s an electronic roll call. Like we used to have every morning when I went to school. Goes a bit further, but it’s not really anything other than making sure kids are in class.
You had an electronic roll call?
I think you’re younger than I thought.
dv said:
Watling and Bates eh
John was sitting in with them. I met Dr Kym Watling at John’s 70th and have kept in touch. She plays gitar and banjo.
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sarahs mum said:
dv said:
Watling and Bates eh
John was sitting in with them. I met Dr Kym Watling at John’s 70th and have kept in touch. She plays gitar and banjo.
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and fiddle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtNETwT7vDs
It is certainly very unusual, this Opal situation. Bad batch of concrete?
dv said:
It is certainly very unusual, this Opal situation. Bad batch of concrete?
some blame the management
some the employees
but everybody knows….
dv said:
It is certainly very unusual, this Opal situation. Bad batch of concrete?
Let’s ask The Rev when he’s around.
party_pants said:
dv said:
It is certainly very unusual, this Opal situation. Bad batch of concrete?
some blame the management
some the employees
but everybody knows….
knows what
sibeen said:
dv said:
It is certainly very unusual, this Opal situation. Bad batch of concrete?
Let’s ask The Rev when he’s around.
Probably skipped town… He’ll turn up in Rio is a few days time.
sibeen said:
dv said:
It is certainly very unusual, this Opal situation. Bad batch of concrete?
Let’s ask The Rev when he’s around.
“I don’t understand, why designed this thing to stand being 117 mm high!”
dv said:
party_pants said:
dv said:
It is certainly very unusual, this Opal situation. Bad batch of concrete?
some blame the management
some the employees
but everybody knows….
knows what
…that they should use the correct punctuation if they want serious answers and to be taken seriously.
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
party_pants said:some blame the management
some the employees
but everybody knows….
knows what
…that they should use the correct punctuation if they want serious answers and to be taken seriously.
ref
dv said:
party_pants said:
dv said:
It is certainly very unusual, this Opal situation. Bad batch of concrete?
some blame the management
some the employees
but everybody knows….
knows what
I guess not everybody knows 1980s popular culture references.
PermeateFree said:
IDGI… Have no idea whatsoever what that thingamabob is.
party_pants said:
dv said:
party_pants said:some blame the management
some the employees
but everybody knows….
knows what
I guess not everybody knows 1980s popular culture references.
raises hand
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:
IDGI… Have no idea whatsoever what that thingamabob is.
+1
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:
IDGI… Have no idea whatsoever what that thingamabob is.
It’s a hose clamp
dv said:
buffy said:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-28/microchipped-school-uniforms-monitor-students-in-china/10671604
It’s an electronic roll call. Like we used to have every morning when I went to school. Goes a bit further, but it’s not really anything other than making sure kids are in class.
You had an electronic roll call?
I think you’re younger than I thought.
Sorry, no,that didn’t read right did it. We had a teacher calling out your name rollcall. This is just the electronic version.
party_pants said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:
IDGI… Have no idea whatsoever what that thingamabob is.
It’s a hose clamp
Are they evil?
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
A huge explosion and fire at a New York power plant have turned the sky above parts of the city a bright blue-green.Many Manhattanites were stunned when the sky over parts of Queens started to glow a bright neon blue shortly after 9pm on Thursday night.
Scores posted footage of the glowing skyline to social media, saying the sky was “bright as day”. Footage of the scene showed the sky flickering a bright blue-green for several minutes.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/28/new-york-sky-bright-blue-lights-explosion-astoria-power-plant-queens?CMP=soc_567&fbclid=IwAR3QIhDjRZn9r-l0BJwcvJjHkn0Jf-Yhw6pSZWYvin4lmZf1lodoA9YLqOg
Probably a Sumerian deity of some description…
Probably just a portal or something
Turns out it was a transformer explosion.
More than meets the eye.
I know why I don’t make cheesecake very often. We are finally eating the last two serves. Even with giving some of it away.
Witty Rejoinder said:
party_pants said:
Witty Rejoinder said:IDGI… Have no idea whatsoever what that thingamabob is.
It’s a hose clamp
Are they evil?
they must be
Moree looks to be in shabby condition. Some of the shops (of those that are still occupied) have ‘security’ screens and rollers over the windows. The pubs are empty. The farm utes are old, the creeks are empty and the grass is brown. The motel has heavy steel gates that are locked at 10 each night.
Rule 303 said:
Moree looks to be in shabby condition. Some of the shops (of those that are still occupied) have ‘security’ screens and rollers over the windows. The pubs are empty. The farm utes are old, the creeks are empty and the grass is brown. The motel has heavy steel gates that are locked at 10 each night.
:(
I watched the Rachel Maddow show.
Trump’s lawyer, Cohen, says it could not have been him talking to Russians and hackers to bring down Hillary coz he has never been to Prague. But it seems his phone has.
Trump’s unwinding of various pollution laws seems to be ending up with more people dying. The coal industry is diminishing but there is more SO2 going into the atmosphere.
Rule 303 said:
Moree looks to be in shabby condition. Some of the shops (of those that are still occupied) have ‘security’ screens and rollers over the windows. The pubs are empty. The farm utes are old, the creeks are empty and the grass is brown. The motel has heavy steel gates that are locked at 10 each night.
Some ghosts live there too.
The telly in the motel would have to be at least 26” on the diagonal.
One of these days people are going to realise there’s a maximum viewing area the human eye can cope with – These huge TVs are just uncomfortable to watch.
Rule 303 said:
The telly in the motel would have to be at least 26” on the diagonal.One of these days people are going to realise there’s a maximum viewing area the human eye can cope with – These huge TVs are just uncomfortable to watch.
I assume you’re being sarcastic…
Bubblecar said:
Rule 303 said:
The telly in the motel would have to be at least 26” on the diagonal.One of these days people are going to realise there’s a maximum viewing area the human eye can cope with – These huge TVs are just uncomfortable to watch.
I assume you’re being sarcastic…
Oooh yeah
Rule 303 said:
Moree looks to be in shabby condition. Some of the shops (of those that are still occupied) have ‘security’ screens and rollers over the windows. The pubs are empty. The farm utes are old, the creeks are empty and the grass is brown. The motel has heavy steel gates that are locked at 10 each night.
So you’re saying it’s a bit of a shit hole?
Rule 303 said:
Bubblecar said:
Rule 303 said:
The telly in the motel would have to be at least 26” on the diagonal.One of these days people are going to realise there’s a maximum viewing area the human eye can cope with – These huge TVs are just uncomfortable to watch.
I assume you’re being sarcastic…
Oooh yeah
It might have been a misprint.
Rule 303 said:
Moree looks to be in shabby condition. Some of the shops (of those that are still occupied) have ‘security’ screens and rollers over the windows. The pubs are empty. The farm utes are old, the creeks are empty and the grass is brown. The motel has heavy steel gates that are locked at 10 each night.
Did you drive through the Pillaga scrub Rule? See any bunyips?
poikilotherm said:
Rule 303 said:
Moree looks to be in shabby condition. Some of the shops (of those that are still occupied) have ‘security’ screens and rollers over the windows. The pubs are empty. The farm utes are old, the creeks are empty and the grass is brown. The motel has heavy steel gates that are locked at 10 each night.
So you’re saying it’s a bit of a shit hole?
Their crime stats are well above the state average:
Robberies and stealings are on the rise according to the latest crime snapshot of Moree.
The latest quarterly crime figures from the NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research (BOCSAR) revealed that while most of the 17 major crime categories remained stable in the Moree Plains Local Government Area (LGA) over the 24 months to March 2018, all but four saw an increase in the 12 months to March 2018.
Domestic violence assault, fraud, steal from a dwelling and interestingly residential break-ins all recorded a drop over the 12-month period.
Despite the drop, domestic violence assault, break and enter dwellings and steal from dwellings all remain well above the state average – four, seven, and four times the NSW rate respectively.
https://www.moreechampion.com.au/story/5454380/robberies-continue-to-rise-break-ins-and-stealing-from-homes-trends-down/
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:
IDGI… Have no idea whatsoever what that thingamabob is.
It is a fiddly thing to use, as you need to hold it open with a pair pliers from which it commonly jumps off and when finally positioned it often doesn’t work, due to a harder plastic pipe or pipe diameter size variation. Bloody awful and largely useless thing.
Someone the other day wanted to know if wolves were very large. Take a look.
https://i.imgur.com/JQyAc3w.mp4

PermeateFree said:
Someone the other day wanted to know if wolves were very large. Take a look.https://i.imgur.com/JQyAc3w.mp4
That’s looking fairly well fed. And it looks like a bear in some ways.
PermeateFree said:
Someone the other day wanted to know if wolves were very large. Take a look.https://i.imgur.com/JQyAc3w.mp4
It looks dire.
I hope the filmers were inside a car or something like that
party_pants said:
PermeateFree said:
Someone the other day wanted to know if wolves were very large. Take a look.https://i.imgur.com/JQyAc3w.mp4
It looks dire.
I hope the filmers were inside a car or something like that
Maybe it’s a tiny road
Oh and btw I became a nana yesterday evening. Since the parents have formally announced bubby to the world … I can now tell other people.
monkey skipper said:
Oh and btw I became a nana yesterday evening. Since the parents have formally announced bubby to the world … I can now tell other people.
Nice. Provide details.
sarahs mum said:
BBC Coast – Hogmanay Fireballs at Stonehaven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm5cqvnZ2eE
The best belated Christmas present ever!
monkey skipper said:
Oh and btw I became a nana yesterday evening. Since the parents have formally announced bubby to the world … I can now tell other people.
Many congrats. I am not into this keeping it quiet thing. I’m not into shooting ak47s in the streets either. But it is nice to celebrate.
Is there any more info?
monkey skipper said:
The best belated Christmas present ever!
Congratulations monkey, and to the daughter & bub :)
monkey skipper said:
Oh and btw I became a nana yesterday evening. Since the parents have formally announced bubby to the world … I can now tell other people.
Oh, cool .
Congrats
dv said:
monkey skipper said:
Oh and btw I became a nana yesterday evening. Since the parents have formally announced bubby to the world … I can now tell other people.
Nice. Provide details.
Well he is a baby boy 7lb11 and we all think he is rather cute indeed. He is quite a settled baby.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
BBC Coast – Hogmanay Fireballs at Stonehaven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm5cqvnZ2eE
I watched it live last year.
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:
The best belated Christmas present ever!
Congratulations monkey, and to the daughter & bub :)
+1
monkey skipper said:
dv said:
monkey skipper said:
Oh and btw I became a nana yesterday evening. Since the parents have formally announced bubby to the world … I can now tell other people.
Nice. Provide details.
Well he is a baby boy 7lb11 and we all think he is rather cute indeed. He is quite a settled baby.
Dig it.
And… and… I got to be part of the other part of the delivery this time. I could really understand why everything was quite painful giving birth more so as the observer.
so that’s about 3.49 kg in the new money
Well, I finally finished the 369 page document of the judges summary for the Rayney case. Spoiler alert – he’s found not guilty.
Arts said:
Well, I finally finished the 369 page document of the judges summary for the Rayney case. Spoiler alert – he’s found not guilty.
phew
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Australia’s mid-year budget update, released Monday (December 17), reveals that the country’s funding under so-called University Research Block Grants is to be slashed by $328.5 million AUD ($235.6 million USD) for the upcoming four years. The budget cuts are twice the amount Australian universities had expected.
In a statement, Universities Australia describes the cuts as “a ram raid” on research.
“The effect will be felt immediately by the nation’s researchers and their research projects in positions lost and projects slowed, limited or not started,” Margaret Gardener, president and vice chancellor of Monash University, writes in The Conversation. The cuts will mean less money to pay research faculty and staff, fewer PhD students funded, and long-term harm to Australia’s status as a leader in research, she writes. The slimmer budget will make it more difficult to entice leading scientists to come to Australia, she adds.
“The Budget is forecast to return to surplus and yet the Government has decided to cut funds to research which drives economic growth. This makes no sense,” says Catriona Jackson, chief executive of Universities Australia, in the statement.
The Australian government will provide $1.92 billion AUD for research block grants in 2019.
Minister for Education Dan Tehan justified the cost-cutting measures in a statement on December 17. “The decision to pause indexation of research block grant programs for 12 months, along with adjusting growth for RSP , will allow the Government to prioritise education spending, including on regional higher education.”
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https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/steep-funding-cuts-for-australian-science-announced-65227?fbclid=IwAR3c7k8gvvfYlJ0FZCpogcyDxLI1hEWhE54uyrGFX3SC2W-5eaz8cJlZA5I#.XCOxHepkgxI.facebook
dv said:
Arts said:
Well, I finally finished the 369 page document of the judges summary for the Rayney case. Spoiler alert – he’s found not guilty.
phew
it really was a roller-coaster ride of excitement. The whole thing read like a novel with out the fluffy bits… which s the perfect way to read a novel… (Are you hearing me, Charles Dickens??!!)
Arts said:
dv said:
Arts said:
Well, I finally finished the 369 page document of the judges summary for the Rayney case. Spoiler alert – he’s found not guilty.
phew
it really was a roller-coaster ride of excitement. The whole thing read like a novel with out the fluffy bits… which s the perfect way to read a novel… (Are you hearing me, Charles Dickens??!!)
I think he’s dead.
Arts said:
dv said:
Arts said:
Well, I finally finished the 369 page document of the judges summary for the Rayney case. Spoiler alert – he’s found not guilty.
phew
it really was a roller-coaster ride of excitement. The whole thing read like a novel with out the fluffy bits… which s the perfect way to read a novel… (Are you hearing me, Charles Dickens??!!)
lol :)
Together Louisiana
Premiered Nov 13, 2018
With all Louisiana’s wealth in natural resources and industry, WHY DO WE STAY SO POOR?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWTic9btP38
Is there anything worse than a structured birthday party with organised games and quizzes?
I’ve promised to go, and help out with the BBQ cooking duties. But I’ve just been sent the timetable. Now I don’t want to go. I just want to hang around talking, and then slink off to watch the cricket.
party_pants said:
Is there anything worse than a structured birthday party with organised games and quizzes?I’ve promised to go, and help out with the BBQ cooking duties. But I’ve just been sent the timetable. Now I don’t want to go. I just want to hang around talking, and then slink off to watch the cricket.
I wouldn’t go. A fucking timetable? Gouge my eyes out with a spoon.
Who are these people?
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
Is there anything worse than a structured birthday party with organised games and quizzes?I’ve promised to go, and help out with the BBQ cooking duties. But I’ve just been sent the timetable. Now I don’t want to go. I just want to hang around talking, and then slink off to watch the cricket.
I wouldn’t go. A fucking timetable? Gouge my eyes out with a spoon.
Who are these people?
My family. Niece’s 18th and the older niece is doing the organising.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
Is there anything worse than a structured birthday party with organised games and quizzes?I’ve promised to go, and help out with the BBQ cooking duties. But I’ve just been sent the timetable. Now I don’t want to go. I just want to hang around talking, and then slink off to watch the cricket.
I wouldn’t go. A fucking timetable? Gouge my eyes out with a spoon.
Who are these people?
My family. Niece’s 18th and the older niece is doing the organising.
What games have they scheduled?
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:I wouldn’t go. A fucking timetable? Gouge my eyes out with a spoon.
Who are these people?
My family. Niece’s 18th and the older niece is doing the organising.
What games have they scheduled?
there’s a relay race, a photo competition, and a 10 round quiz night :(
“Is there anything worse than a structured birthday party with organised games and quizzes?”
A Christmas Day family lunch organised similarly – luckily not my family so i could politely decline to attend.
Neophyte said:
“Is there anything worse than a structured birthday party with organised games and quizzes?”A Christmas Day family lunch organised similarly – luckily not my family so i could politely decline to attend.
What did Neddles have to say about it when she got home?
:)
Neophyte said:
“Is there anything worse than a structured birthday party with organised games and quizzes?”A Christmas Day family lunch organised similarly – luckily not my family so i could politely decline to attend.
I didn’t realise she was doing it this way.
sarahs mum said:
Together Louisiana
Premiered Nov 13, 2018
With all Louisiana’s wealth in natural resources and industry, WHY DO WE STAY SO POOR?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWTic9btP38
‘WHY DO WE STAY SO POOR?’
Because you allow creationism to be taught as science in your schools, ensuring that your kids grow up confused and dumb enough to be giving money they can’t afford to swindling televangelists.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
Together Louisiana
Premiered Nov 13, 2018
With all Louisiana’s wealth in natural resources and industry, WHY DO WE STAY SO POOR?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWTic9btP38
‘WHY DO WE STAY SO POOR?’
Because you allow creationism to be taught as science in your schools, ensuring that your kids grow up confused and dumb enough to be giving money they can’t afford to swindling televangelists.
ROFL
party_pants said:
Neophyte said:
“Is there anything worse than a structured birthday party with organised games and quizzes?”A Christmas Day family lunch organised similarly – luckily not my family so i could politely decline to attend.
I didn’t realise she was doing it this way.
Well they can’t really expect you to join in races, and anyway you’ll be helping with the BBQ.
sibeen said:
Neophyte said:
“Is there anything worse than a structured birthday party with organised games and quizzes?”A Christmas Day family lunch organised similarly – luckily not my family so i could politely decline to attend.
What did Neddles have to say about it when she got home?
:)
Only Neddles’s mother lives in Australia – and she’d rather have needles stuck under her fingernails than to do Xmas with her.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
Together Louisiana
Premiered Nov 13, 2018
With all Louisiana’s wealth in natural resources and industry, WHY DO WE STAY SO POOR?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWTic9btP38
‘WHY DO WE STAY SO POOR?’
Because you allow creationism to be taught as science in your schools, ensuring that your kids grow up confused and dumb enough to be giving money they can’t afford to swindling televangelists.
sounds simplistic but probably bits are true-ish.
Rain is on its way with a cool change I hope.
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
Neophyte said:
“Is there anything worse than a structured birthday party with organised games and quizzes?”A Christmas Day family lunch organised similarly – luckily not my family so i could politely decline to attend.
I didn’t realise she was doing it this way.
Well they can’t really expect you to join in races, and anyway you’ll be helping with the BBQ.
I just want to mill around and talk to people I haven’t seen in a while. I don’t want to sit silently for 2 hours with no talking while doing a quiz.
party_pants said:
Is there anything worse than a structured birthday party with organised games and quizzes?I’ve promised to go, and help out with the BBQ cooking duties. But I’ve just been sent the timetable. Now I don’t want to go. I just want to hang around talking, and then slink off to watch the cricket.
Hey. You get free steaks cooked to your liking and can slink off to watch the cricket? Sounds nearly ideal to me.
Neophyte said:
sibeen said:
Neophyte said:
“Is there anything worse than a structured birthday party with organised games and quizzes?”A Christmas Day family lunch organised similarly – luckily not my family so i could politely decline to attend.
What did Neddles have to say about it when she got home?
:)
Only Neddles’s mother lives in Australia – and she’d rather have needles stuck under her fingernails than to do Xmas with her.
So they’re close then.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Rain is on its way with a cool change I hope.
Still warm this end and at least five more hot days following.
I’m on the wagon but I’d love a large cold gin & tonic right now.
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
Is there anything worse than a structured birthday party with organised games and quizzes?I’ve promised to go, and help out with the BBQ cooking duties. But I’ve just been sent the timetable. Now I don’t want to go. I just want to hang around talking, and then slink off to watch the cricket.
Hey. You get free steaks cooked to your liking and can slink off to watch the cricket? Sounds nearly ideal to me.
I think you’d best re-read the complaint, mv.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
Together Louisiana
Premiered Nov 13, 2018
With all Louisiana’s wealth in natural resources and industry, WHY DO WE STAY SO POOR?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWTic9btP38
‘WHY DO WE STAY SO POOR?’
Because you allow creationism to be taught as science in your schools, ensuring that your kids grow up confused and dumb enough to be giving money they can’t afford to swindling televangelists.
Oh dear.
That’s possibly true, not cynical…
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:I didn’t realise she was doing it this way.
Well they can’t really expect you to join in races, and anyway you’ll be helping with the BBQ.
I just want to mill around and talk to people I haven’t seen in a while. I don’t want to sit silently for 2 hours with no talking while doing a quiz.
Maybe people will be permitted to opt out of activities that don’t take their fancy.
sibeen said:
Neophyte said:
sibeen said:What did Neddles have to say about it when she got home?
:)
Only Neddles’s mother lives in Australia – and she’d rather have needles stuck under her fingernails than to do Xmas with her.
So they’re close then.
Last year for Xmas, her mum gave her two plastic chopping boards from Ikea – which N knows for a fact are only sold in packs of five.
To describe her mother as a piece of work would be an understatement.
WA Police investigate suspicious death of woman at Munster house in Perth’s south
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-28/wa-police-investigate-suspicious-death-of-woman-in-munster-perth/10672550
A woman has been found dead at a house in Perth’s southern suburbs, with a man who police said was running around naked taken into custody nearby.
What sort of scandal would it take to destroy the TV Evangelist movement?
Bubblecar said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Rain is on its way with a cool change I hope.
Still warm this end and at least five more hot days following.
I’m on the wagon but I’d love a large cold gin & tonic right now.
Temp? RH?
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
Is there anything worse than a structured birthday party with organised games and quizzes?I’ve promised to go, and help out with the BBQ cooking duties. But I’ve just been sent the timetable. Now I don’t want to go. I just want to hang around talking, and then slink off to watch the cricket.
Hey. You get free steaks cooked to your liking and can slink off to watch the cricket? Sounds nearly ideal to me.
I think you’d best re-read the complaint, mv.
Nothing’s ever perfect. Nearly ideal should be good enough.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Rain is on its way with a cool change I hope.
Still warm this end and at least five more hot days following.
I’m on the wagon but I’d love a large cold gin & tonic right now.
Temp? RH?
Inside the house it’s probably low 20s (I’ve had the a/c off because I’m probably using it too much and building a bumper trickery bill).
Supposedly 19 outside with 58% humidity.
But it’s all relative. That’s a hot night for Tasmania.
Neophyte said:
sibeen said:
Neophyte said:Only Neddles’s mother lives in Australia – and she’d rather have needles stuck under her fingernails than to do Xmas with her.
So they’re close then.
Last year for Xmas, her mum gave her two plastic chopping boards from Ikea – which N knows for a fact are only sold in packs of five.
To describe her mother as a piece of work would be an understatement.
ROFL
party_pants said:
What sort of scandal would it take to destroy the TV Evangelist movement?
Please don’t be stupid.
:)
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
Together Louisiana
Premiered Nov 13, 2018
With all Louisiana’s wealth in natural resources and industry, WHY DO WE STAY SO POOR?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWTic9btP38
‘WHY DO WE STAY SO POOR?’
Because you allow creationism to be taught as science in your schools, ensuring that your kids grow up confused and dumb enough to be giving money they can’t afford to swindling televangelists.
Oh dear.
That’s possibly true, not cynical…
It’s close. Lousiana is highly industrialised. The same zip code is the both the richest and poorest zip code.
They don’t charge the businesses taxes. So the poor are the taxation base.. There is no money for schools. Or teachers.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
What sort of scandal would it take to destroy the TV Evangelist movement?
Please don’t be stupid.
:)
i was just wondering, I wasn’t going to try and set it up or anything.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
What sort of scandal would it take to destroy the TV Evangelist movement?
Please don’t be stupid.
:)
i was just wondering, I wasn’t going to try and set it up or anything.
This little creep spent years in prison for all kinds of fraud, but bounced back and still has his own TV show.

James Orsen Bakker (/‘be?k?r/ “baker”; born January 2, 1940) is an American televangelist, former Assemblies of God minister, convicted felon, and former host (with his former wife, Tammy Faye Bakker) of The PTL Club, an evangelical Christian television program. Bakker is also known for building Heritage USA in Fort Mill, South Carolina, a former Christian theme park which opened in 1978 and closed in 1989. He has written several books, including I Was Wrong and Time Has Come: How to Prepare Now for Epic Events Ahead.
A cover-up of hush money paid to a church secretary, Jessica Hahn, for alleged rape led to his resignation from the ministry. Subsequent revelations of accounting fraud brought about his conviction, imprisonment and divorce. Bakker later remarried and returned to televangelism, where he founded his new ministry Morningside Church in Blue Eye, Missouri and currently works on The Jim Bakker Show. He sells buckets of food to his audience on the show, in preparation for the end of days.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bakker
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
What sort of scandal would it take to destroy the TV Evangelist movement?
Please don’t be stupid.
:)
i was just wondering, I wasn’t going to try and set it up or anything.
How many scandals have there been over the years? Half those caught out make even more feelthy lucre after doing the repentance shuffle.
Now getting a bit of gentle rain.
I have a chicken turnover in the oven for supper.
party_pants said:
What sort of scandal would it take to destroy the TV Evangelist movement?
Has any scandal stopped a TV Evangelist movement?
What about stopping stupid people?
That’s what should be stopped.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:Please don’t be stupid.
:)
i was just wondering, I wasn’t going to try and set it up or anything.
How many scandals have there been over the years? Half those caught out make even more feelthy lucre after doing the repentance shuffle.
But with televangelists it doesn’t matter, because the greater the sin, the greater the forgiveness.
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:Still warm this end and at least five more hot days following.
I’m on the wagon but I’d love a large cold gin & tonic right now.
Temp? RH?
Inside the house it’s probably low 20s (I’ve had the a/c off because I’m probably using it too much and building a bumper trickery bill).
Supposedly 19 outside with 58% humidity.
But it’s all relative. That’s a hot night for Tasmania.
Here: 24.3°C, 64% RH. The breeze makes it feel cool.
I often wonder why I moved here; I like low humidity, and moderate temperatures like you have.
Tau.Neutrino said:
party_pants said:
What sort of scandal would it take to destroy the TV Evangelist movement?
Has any scandal stopped a TV Evangelist movement?
What about stopping stupid people?
That’s what should be stopped.
Surely there’s gotta be something.
Rent boy parties on the private jet?
An affair with a porn star?
Whoring out his wife or daughters to rich donors?
what about investing church money in shares in a company that provides abortion services, or promotes evolution?
party_pants said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
party_pants said:
What sort of scandal would it take to destroy the TV Evangelist movement?
Has any scandal stopped a TV Evangelist movement?
What about stopping stupid people?
That’s what should be stopped.
Surely there’s gotta be something.
Rent boy parties on the private jet?
An affair with a porn star?
Whoring out his wife or daughters to rich donors?what about investing church money in shares in a company that provides abortion services, or promotes evolution?
You’re entering fantasy land with that last one.
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:Please don’t be stupid.
:)
i was just wondering, I wasn’t going to try and set it up or anything.
This little creep spent years in prison for all kinds of fraud, but bounced back and still has his own TV show.
James Orsen Bakker (/‘be?k?r/ “baker”; born January 2, 1940) is an American televangelist, former Assemblies of God minister, convicted felon, and former host (with his former wife, Tammy Faye Bakker) of The PTL Club, an evangelical Christian television program. Bakker is also known for building Heritage USA in Fort Mill, South Carolina, a former Christian theme park which opened in 1978 and closed in 1989. He has written several books, including I Was Wrong and Time Has Come: How to Prepare Now for Epic Events Ahead.
A cover-up of hush money paid to a church secretary, Jessica Hahn, for alleged rape led to his resignation from the ministry. Subsequent revelations of accounting fraud brought about his conviction, imprisonment and divorce. Bakker later remarried and returned to televangelism, where he founded his new ministry Morningside Church in Blue Eye, Missouri and currently works on The Jim Bakker Show. He sells buckets of food to his audience on the show, in preparation for the end of days.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bakker
He looks like a certain Federal politician, but with a beard…
party_pants said:
Neophyte said:
“Is there anything worse than a structured birthday party with organised games and quizzes?”A Christmas Day family lunch organised similarly – luckily not my family so i could politely decline to attend.
I didn’t realise she was doing it this way.
there might be a 24 hour virus going around
party_pants said:
What sort of scandal would it take to destroy the TV Evangelist movement?
God coming down and saying “Hey, I don’t do healings, that’s the devils work”
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:Temp? RH?
Inside the house it’s probably low 20s (I’ve had the a/c off because I’m probably using it too much and building a bumper trickery bill).
Supposedly 19 outside with 58% humidity.
But it’s all relative. That’s a hot night for Tasmania.
Here: 24.3°C, 64% RH. The breeze makes it feel cool.
I often wonder why I moved here; I like low humidity, and moderate temperatures like you have.
I understand the decisions I made in my life less each day. I don’t know why I am here anymore.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:Temp? RH?
Inside the house it’s probably low 20s (I’ve had the a/c off because I’m probably using it too much and building a bumper trickery bill).
Supposedly 19 outside with 58% humidity.
But it’s all relative. That’s a hot night for Tasmania.
Here: 24.3°C, 64% RH. The breeze makes it feel cool.
I often wonder why I moved here; I like low humidity, and moderate temperatures like you have.
You don’t freeze your balls off in winter would be a good one.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:Inside the house it’s probably low 20s (I’ve had the a/c off because I’m probably using it too much and building a bumper trickery bill).
Supposedly 19 outside with 58% humidity.
But it’s all relative. That’s a hot night for Tasmania.
Here: 24.3°C, 64% RH. The breeze makes it feel cool.
I often wonder why I moved here; I like low humidity, and moderate temperatures like you have.
You don’t freeze your balls off in winter would be a good one.
Very, very true. And I don’t…
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:Temp? RH?
Inside the house it’s probably low 20s (I’ve had the a/c off because I’m probably using it too much and building a bumper trickery bill).
Supposedly 19 outside with 58% humidity.
But it’s all relative. That’s a hot night for Tasmania.
Here: 24.3°C, 64% RH. The breeze makes it feel cool.
I often wonder why I moved here; I like low humidity, and moderate temperatures like you have.
You need a winter palace and a summer palace Mr V, like the old Tsars used to do.
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:Here: 24.3°C, 64% RH. The breeze makes it feel cool.
I often wonder why I moved here; I like low humidity, and moderate temperatures like you have.
You don’t freeze your balls off in winter would be a good one.
Very, very true. And I don’t…
And the no shoes, and the shorts and singlet, and it’s always beer weather….
Arts said:
party_pants said:
What sort of scandal would it take to destroy the TV Evangelist movement?
God coming down and saying “Hey, I don’t do healings, that’s the devils work”
The devil doesn’t do sideshow tricks any more, either. He wears Gieves & Hawkes and frequents boardrooms these days.
party_pants said:
Wouldn’t that be something?
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:Inside the house it’s probably low 20s (I’ve had the a/c off because I’m probably using it too much and building a bumper trickery bill).
Supposedly 19 outside with 58% humidity.
But it’s all relative. That’s a hot night for Tasmania.
Here: 24.3°C, 64% RH. The breeze makes it feel cool.
I often wonder why I moved here; I like low humidity, and moderate temperatures like you have.
You need a winter palace and a summer palace Mr V, like the old Tsars used to do.
:)
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:You don’t freeze your balls off in winter would be a good one.
Very, very true. And I don’t…
And the no shoes, and the shorts and singlet, and it’s always beer weather….
Singlet? What’s that?
Shorts. I wear them. That’s all. Year round. And I put thongs on to go somewhere…
The swollen feet. Bloody. I wish i could sort that out…
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:Very, very true. And I don’t…
And the no shoes, and the shorts and singlet, and it’s always beer weather….
Singlet? What’s that?
Shorts. I wear them. That’s all. Year round. And I put thongs on to go somewhere…
The swollen feet. Bloody. I wish i could sort that out…
Avoid getting bits cut off would be my advice.
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:And the no shoes, and the shorts and singlet, and it’s always beer weather….
Singlet? What’s that?
Shorts. I wear them. That’s all. Year round. And I put thongs on to go somewhere…
The swollen feet. Bloody. I wish i could sort that out…
Avoid getting bits cut off would be my advice.
I don’t intend to, so thanks for that advice.
:)
The egg-shaped interior of an 18th century ice house, built for commercial ice storage, discovered under a London street.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/dec/28/chilling-discovery-archaeologists-uncover-lost-ice-house-under-london-street

It has started a light rain. Grouse :)
sibeen said:
It has started a light rain. Grouse :)
I have rain now too. 2-5mm is forecast. More would be useful.
Bubblecar said:
The egg-shaped interior of an 18th century ice house, built for commercial ice storage, discovered under a London street.https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/dec/28/chilling-discovery-archaeologists-uncover-lost-ice-house-under-london-street
You wouldn’t want to go back to those days though.
Never knew you could do that. Radiating art.
https://i.imgur.com/PgrGb68.mp4
He’s done that before.
https://i.imgur.com/iepkF2M.mp4
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
It has started a light rain. Grouse :)
I have rain now too. 2-5mm is forecast. More would be useful.
Finding it difficult to sleep
32.3°C is a tad warm for 4:00 AM.
Well I’ll tell you something else for free.
I thought the lyrics to Africa said:
Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you.
That’s nothing that a hundred men or more could ever do.
ie dragging him away from her is not something that a hundred men or more could ever do.
I have now learned that the song says:
Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you.
There’s nothing that a hundred men or more could ever do.
That doesn’t make any sense at all.
dv said:
Well I’ll tell you something else for free.I thought the lyrics to Africa said:
Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you.
That’s nothing that a hundred men or more could ever do.ie dragging him away from her is not something that a hundred men or more could ever do.
I have now learned that the song says:
Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you.
There’s nothing that a hundred men or more could ever do.That doesn’t make any sense at all.
Yeah. When it only takes one woman.
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
It has started a light rain. Grouse :)
I have rain now too. 2-5mm is forecast. More would be useful.
Finding it difficult to sleep
32.3°C is a tad warm for 4:00 AM.
It got up to 32.4°C but has now cooled to a more amenable
31.1°C
Good morning Holidayers. Fifteen degrees and overcast. We also had a little bit of rain. Somewhere around 2-3mm at a guess. Walked the dogs. It’s muggy, but I don’t think there will be more rain. Going for 24 today and then heating up to the thirties again over the next week.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Fifteen degrees and overcast. We also had a little bit of rain. Somewhere around 2-3mm at a guess. Walked the dogs. It’s muggy, but I don’t think there will be more rain. Going for 24 today and then heating up to the thirties again over the next week.
It has just cooled to 30.1°C. Doubt it will get any lower today.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:i was just wondering, I wasn’t going to try and set it up or anything.
This little creep spent years in prison for all kinds of fraud, but bounced back and still has his own TV show.
James Orsen Bakker (/‘be?k?r/ “baker”; born January 2, 1940) is an American televangelist, former Assemblies of God minister, convicted felon, and former host (with his former wife, Tammy Faye Bakker) of The PTL Club, an evangelical Christian television program. Bakker is also known for building Heritage USA in Fort Mill, South Carolina, a former Christian theme park which opened in 1978 and closed in 1989. He has written several books, including I Was Wrong and Time Has Come: How to Prepare Now for Epic Events Ahead.
A cover-up of hush money paid to a church secretary, Jessica Hahn, for alleged rape led to his resignation from the ministry. Subsequent revelations of accounting fraud brought about his conviction, imprisonment and divorce. Bakker later remarried and returned to televangelism, where he founded his new ministry Morningside Church in Blue Eye, Missouri and currently works on The Jim Bakker Show. He sells buckets of food to his audience on the show, in preparation for the end of days.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bakker
He looks like a certain Federal politician, but with a beard…
I actually remember the names James and Tammy Bakker.
Bubblecar said:
The egg-shaped interior of an 18th century ice house, built for commercial ice storage, discovered under a London street.https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/dec/28/chilling-discovery-archaeologists-uncover-lost-ice-house-under-london-street
Amazing brickwork.
I’m going to pick some red and white roses for a vase in the kitchen.
Goondiwindi seems nice.
I have hatched a plan to usurp the Queensland greeting ritual by saying ‘It’s a lot warmer than we get down in Melbourne – I don’t know how we put up with it.’
I’m going to run this as an experiment, mostly to see if I can scratch through the veneer.
Rule 303 said:
Goondiwindi seems nice.
Did you stop or just drive through?
sibeen said:
It has started a light rain. Grouse :)
Yep rain here and checking the radar rain where I live as well. Fingers crossed. Going to be a treeless year I think.
dv said:
Well I’ll tell you something else for free.I thought the lyrics to Africa said:
Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you.
That’s nothing that a hundred men or more could ever do.ie dragging him away from her is not something that a hundred men or more could ever do.
I have now learned that the song says:
Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you.
There’s nothing that a hundred men or more could ever do.That doesn’t make any sense at all.
What makes less sense is that the song is undergoing a revival.
Morning.
Partly cloudy, heading for a lovely 28 today.
It’s my sister’s birthday. She’s normally woken by a text from Mum but mum is apparently still mad at us for unknown reasons. It’s mum’s birthday in 2 days… still time to return her presents.
I feel like I’m coming down with something 😷
Morning Saturdays. :)
23.6C & 55% indoors
26.7C & 51% outdoors
1020 hPa and steady
Trending sunny.
Headed for 32C
No moolies to report.
Good morning everyone.
Very warm, very humid and partly cloudy with a light air.
Son and three of his kids are here.
:)
poikilotherm said:
Rule 303 said:
Goondiwindi seems nice.
Did you stop or just drive through?
Stopped, had a look around, filled up on cheap diesel.
Michael V said:
Good morning everyone.Very warm, very humid and partly cloudy with a light air.
Son and three of his kids are here.
:)
waves to son and three kids.
poikilotherm said:
Rule 303 said:
Goondiwindi seems nice.
Did you stop or just drive through?
Stopped, had a look around, filled up on cheap diesel.
Rule 303 said:
poikilotherm said:
Rule 303 said:
Goondiwindi seems nice.
Did you stop or just drive through?
Stopped, had a look around, filled up on cheap diesel.
There’s some pretty ordinary country around Gundy.
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
Good morning everyone.Very warm, very humid and partly cloudy with a light air.
Son and three of his kids are here.
:)
waves to son and three kids.
I’ll let them know when they get back from the beach.
what now, finish this coffee….
burp…done
breakfast was rolled up bread with jam on
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:
poikilotherm said:Did you stop or just drive through?
Stopped, had a look around, filled up on cheap diesel.
There’s some pretty ordinary country around Gundy.
But enough brilliantly good irrigation country to make a thriving local economy.
transition said:
what now, finish this coffee….burp…done
breakfast was rolled up bread with jam on
21°, 16.8mm rain, 19 raindays so far this month.
Tamb said:
transition said:
what now, finish this coffee….burp…done
breakfast was rolled up bread with jam on
21°, 16.8mm rain, 19 raindays so far this month.
cool here today, temporary break from the heat
take the camera for a wander now
help yourself to the chocolate in the fridge
transition said:
Tamb said:
transition said:
what now, finish this coffee….burp…done
breakfast was rolled up bread with jam on
21°, 16.8mm rain, 19 raindays so far this month.
cool here today, temporary break from the heat
take the camera for a wander now
help yourself to the chocolate in the fridge
Sitting at around 37.5 here
transition said:
Tamb said:
transition said:
what now, finish this coffee….burp…done
breakfast was rolled up bread with jam on
21°, 16.8mm rain, 19 raindays so far this month.
cool here today, temporary break from the heat
take the camera for a wander now
help yourself to the chocolate in the fridge
Thanks. (Looks at mouth of gift horse.)
:)
and the temp has hit the ton again.
from walk over the dam shortly ago, still trying for good pictures of wrens
type variagated maybe could be juvenile and/or female, not sure, i’m new to the wren thing.
transition said:
from walk over the dam shortly ago, still trying for good pictures of wrens
type variagated maybe could be juvenile and/or female, not sure, i’m new to the wren thing.
Wonderful photo.
Michael V said:
transition said:
from walk over the dam shortly ago, still trying for good pictures of wrens
type variagated maybe could be juvenile and/or female, not sure, i’m new to the wren thing.
Wonderful photo.
Because the bill is not black, and the tail feathers are bluish, I’m wondering whether it is a female Splendid Wren.
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
transition said:
from walk over the dam shortly ago, still trying for good pictures of wrens
type variagated maybe could be juvenile and/or female, not sure, i’m new to the wren thing.
Wonderful photo.
Because the bill is not black, and the tail feathers are bluish, I’m wondering whether it is a female Splendid Wren.
There’s little difference between the Variegated and the Splendid females. Maybe the variegated has a slightly longer tail.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Michael V said:Wonderful photo.
Because the bill is not black, and the tail feathers are bluish, I’m wondering whether it is a female Splendid Wren.
There’s little difference between the Variegated and the Splendid females. Maybe the variegated has a slightly longer tail.
The female Variegated Wren has a black bill and grey tail, according to my references.
dv said:
Well I’ll tell you something else for free.I thought the lyrics to Africa said:
Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you.
That’s nothing that a hundred men or more could ever do.ie dragging him away from her is not something that a hundred men or more could ever do.
I have now learned that the song says:
Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you.
There’s nothing that a hundred men or more could ever do.That doesn’t make any sense at all.
I don’t know the song in question but I think you’re mistaken, it does seem to make sense.
Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you.
There’s nothing that a hundred men or more could ever do (i.e., to drag me away from you).
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Well I’ll tell you something else for free.I thought the lyrics to Africa said:
Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you.
That’s nothing that a hundred men or more could ever do.ie dragging him away from her is not something that a hundred men or more could ever do.
I have now learned that the song says:
Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you.
There’s nothing that a hundred men or more could ever do.That doesn’t make any sense at all.
I don’t know the song in question but I think you’re mistaken, it does seem to make sense.
Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you.
There’s nothing that a hundred men or more could ever do (i.e., to drag me away from you).
do do do do do do do dooo.
Simple rule: don’t visit Egypt. You can see all that stuff on documentaries anyway.
Tourists killed in bus bombing near Egypt’s Giza pyramids
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-29/tourists-killed-in-bus-explosion-near-giza-pyramid/10673034
Bubblecar said:
Simple rule: don’t visit Egypt. You can see all that stuff on documentaries anyway.Tourists killed in bus bombing near Egypt’s Giza pyramids
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-29/tourists-killed-in-bus-explosion-near-giza-pyramid/10673034
I’m pretty sure that tourist deaths from accidents and random acts of violence exceed deaths due terrorist activities by several orders of magnitude.
OTOH, Egypt is probably pretty near the top in both of those categories as well.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:
Simple rule: don’t visit Egypt. You can see all that stuff on documentaries anyway.Tourists killed in bus bombing near Egypt’s Giza pyramids
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-29/tourists-killed-in-bus-explosion-near-giza-pyramid/10673034
I’m pretty sure that tourist deaths from accidents and random acts of violence exceed deaths due terrorist activities by several orders of magnitude.
OTOH, Egypt is probably pretty near the top in both of those categories as well.
According to one of my staff (now retired), going in a tourist bus in Egypt is terror in itself with the driving methods.
Should husbands help with the housework? These 1960s answers might surprise you
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-29/should-husbands-help-with-the-weekend-housework/10559628
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:
Simple rule: don’t visit Egypt. You can see all that stuff on documentaries anyway.Tourists killed in bus bombing near Egypt’s Giza pyramids
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-29/tourists-killed-in-bus-explosion-near-giza-pyramid/10673034
I’m pretty sure that tourist deaths from accidents and random acts of violence exceed deaths due terrorist activities by several orders of magnitude.
OTOH, Egypt is probably pretty near the top in both of those categories as well.
According to one of my staff (now retired), going in a tourist bus in Egypt is terror in itself with the driving methods.
I shouldn’t wonder.
Also, the Egyptian government wants lots and lots of tourists but they’re also running a campaign to “confront and eliminate atheism” which involves increasing numbers of arrests.
Ditto their persecution of LGBT people etc.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:Because the bill is not black, and the tail feathers are bluish, I’m wondering whether it is a female Splendid Wren.
There’s little difference between the Variegated and the Splendid females. Maybe the variegated has a slightly longer tail.
The female Variegated Wren has a black bill and grey tail, according to my references.
Gould didn’t think so but then he was a long time in the past.
40.7°C
roughbarked said:
40.7°C
:(
Currently 25 here and windy again.
good morning.. I finished my first assignment last night.. thankfully. I was well over the 1500 word limit and was stressing on trying to edit it and then thought.. you know what? ‘ll just get rid of this whole section.. I did and the word count was bang on 1500… and th essay still flows fine… so good times..
I got about nine hours sleep and feel refreshed enough to start the second one shortly. I am looking forward to the 16th when he exam will be done and I can have a few weeks holiday. I’‘m not sure a summer unit was as good an idea as it sounded back in july
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
40.7°C
:(
It was 32.4 at 4 am.
The past four days max’s;
Fri, Dec 28 43.5°C
Thu, Dec 27 43.1°C
Wed, Dec 26 41.4°C
Tue, Dec 25 38.2°C
Arts said:
good morning.. I finished my first assignment last night.. thankfully. I was well over the 1500 word limit and was stressing on trying to edit it and then thought.. you know what? ‘ll just get rid of this whole section.. I did and the word count was bang on 1500… and th essay still flows fine… so good times..I got about nine hours sleep and feel refreshed enough to start the second one shortly. I am looking forward to the 16th when he exam will be done and I can have a few weeks holiday. I’‘m not sure a summer unit was as good an idea as it sounded back in july
Sounds like efficient progress, well done.
Arts said:
good morning.. I finished my first assignment last night.. thankfully. I was well over the 1500 word limit and was stressing on trying to edit it and then thought.. you know what? ‘ll just get rid of this whole section.. I did and the word count was bang on 1500… and th essay still flows fine… so good times..I got about nine hours sleep and feel refreshed enough to start the second one shortly. I am looking forward to the 16th when he exam will be done and I can have a few weeks holiday. I’‘m not sure a summer unit was as good an idea as it sounded back in july
girly swot
Arts said:
good morning.. I finished my first assignment last night.. thankfully. I was well over the 1500 word limit and was stressing on trying to edit it and then thought.. you know what? ‘ll just get rid of this whole section.. I did and the word count was bang on 1500… and th essay still flows fine… so good times..I got about nine hours sleep and feel refreshed enough to start the second one shortly. I am looking forward to the 16th when he exam will be done and I can have a few weeks holiday. I’‘m not sure a summer unit was as good an idea as it sounded back in july
Onya.
Arts said:
good morning.. I finished my first assignment last night.. thankfully. I was well over the 1500 word limit and was stressing on trying to edit it and then thought.. you know what? ‘ll just get rid of this whole section.. I did and the word count was bang on 1500… and th essay still flows fine… so good times..I got about nine hours sleep and feel refreshed enough to start the second one shortly. I am looking forward to the 16th when he exam will be done and I can have a few weeks holiday. I’‘m not sure a summer unit was as good an idea as it sounded back in july
Impressive. In my experience summer and winter school units just stuff things up. I did do ‘Picturing the Wilderness’ as a summer school and that was a revelation and a great course and it was only available as a summer school unit.
Ben is starting a physics unit next week. Seems a shame.
Bubblecar said:
Currently 25 here and windy again.
Please make it stop.
I’m getting rattled.
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
good morning.. I finished my first assignment last night.. thankfully. I was well over the 1500 word limit and was stressing on trying to edit it and then thought.. you know what? ‘ll just get rid of this whole section.. I did and the word count was bang on 1500… and th essay still flows fine… so good times..I got about nine hours sleep and feel refreshed enough to start the second one shortly. I am looking forward to the 16th when he exam will be done and I can have a few weeks holiday. I’‘m not sure a summer unit was as good an idea as it sounded back in july
Impressive. In my experience summer and winter school units just stuff things up. I did do ‘Picturing the Wilderness’ as a summer school and that was a revelation and a great course and it was only available as a summer school unit.
Ben is starting a physics unit next week. Seems a shame.
This unit was only offered as a summer unit also… I also am enrolled in a winter unit for 2019, but that won’t be so bad since the kids only have two weeks off school instead of this big break… and I got the internship so that’s another unit down… with my regular two unit per semester I might even graduate by the end of next year…. which will be nice…
who is Ben?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/28/how-monkey-christ-brought-new-life-to-a-quiet-spanish-town
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Currently 25 here and windy again.
Please make it stop.
I’m getting rattled.
Yes, looks quite a lot stronger down your way:
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-213.99,-37.70,1757/loc=147.448,-43.414
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
good morning.. I finished my first assignment last night.. thankfully. I was well over the 1500 word limit and was stressing on trying to edit it and then thought.. you know what? ‘ll just get rid of this whole section.. I did and the word count was bang on 1500… and th essay still flows fine… so good times..I got about nine hours sleep and feel refreshed enough to start the second one shortly. I am looking forward to the 16th when he exam will be done and I can have a few weeks holiday. I’‘m not sure a summer unit was as good an idea as it sounded back in july
Impressive. In my experience summer and winter school units just stuff things up. I did do ‘Picturing the Wilderness’ as a summer school and that was a revelation and a great course and it was only available as a summer school unit.
Ben is starting a physics unit next week. Seems a shame.
This unit was only offered as a summer unit also… I also am enrolled in a winter unit for 2019, but that won’t be so bad since the kids only have two weeks off school instead of this big break… and I got the internship so that’s another unit down… with my regular two unit per semester I might even graduate by the end of next year…. which will be nice…
who is Ben?
He is one of the WA forummers.. who has moved down and is studying engineering.
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:Impressive. In my experience summer and winter school units just stuff things up. I did do ‘Picturing the Wilderness’ as a summer school and that was a revelation and a great course and it was only available as a summer school unit.
Ben is starting a physics unit next week. Seems a shame.
This unit was only offered as a summer unit also… I also am enrolled in a winter unit for 2019, but that won’t be so bad since the kids only have two weeks off school instead of this big break… and I got the internship so that’s another unit down… with my regular two unit per semester I might even graduate by the end of next year…. which will be nice…
who is Ben?
He is one of the WA forummers.. who has moved down and is studying engineering.
Silly man.
sibeen said:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/28/how-monkey-christ-brought-new-life-to-a-quiet-spanish-town
There you go then – fuck up your art treasures and the tourists will stream in :)
I hadn’t seen these ones:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/07/mary-and-jesus-given-garish-robes-in-botched-spanish-restoration


sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:Impressive. In my experience summer and winter school units just stuff things up. I did do ‘Picturing the Wilderness’ as a summer school and that was a revelation and a great course and it was only available as a summer school unit.
Ben is starting a physics unit next week. Seems a shame.
This unit was only offered as a summer unit also… I also am enrolled in a winter unit for 2019, but that won’t be so bad since the kids only have two weeks off school instead of this big break… and I got the internship so that’s another unit down… with my regular two unit per semester I might even graduate by the end of next year…. which will be nice…
who is Ben?
He is one of the WA forummers.. who has moved down and is studying engineering.
oh…
Maybe someone should smear some shit all over the shroud of Turin.
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/28/how-monkey-christ-brought-new-life-to-a-quiet-spanish-town
There you go then – fuck up your art treasures and the tourists will stream in :)
I hadn’t seen these ones:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/07/mary-and-jesus-given-garish-robes-in-botched-spanish-restoration
in the top photo they all look like they are sick of your shit
in the bottom photo.. why did they make her blonde? was she blonde? was there any way she was blonde?
Arts said:
in the bottom photo.. why did they make her blonde? was she blonde? was there any way she was blonde?
A change is as good as a holiday.
Arts said:
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/28/how-monkey-christ-brought-new-life-to-a-quiet-spanish-town
There you go then – fuck up your art treasures and the tourists will stream in :)
I hadn’t seen these ones:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/07/mary-and-jesus-given-garish-robes-in-botched-spanish-restoration
in the top photo they all look like they are sick of your shit
in the bottom photo.. why did they make her blonde? was she blonde? was there any way she was blonde?
no
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:This unit was only offered as a summer unit also… I also am enrolled in a winter unit for 2019, but that won’t be so bad since the kids only have two weeks off school instead of this big break… and I got the internship so that’s another unit down… with my regular two unit per semester I might even graduate by the end of next year…. which will be nice…
who is Ben?
He is one of the WA forummers.. who has moved down and is studying engineering.
oh…
The photographer chap who had the broken toy shop. He was having all sorts of problems with AUSTUDY. But now he has a part time job as a real estate photographer.
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:He is one of the WA forummers.. who has moved down and is studying engineering.
oh…
The photographer chap who had the broken toy shop. He was having all sorts of problems with AUSTUDY. But now he has a part time job as a real estate photographer.
that’s nice for him.. glad he’s getting stuff done, but I still don’t remember him… not to worry
also, we made it through the Christmas ham… but I won’t be eating ham for a while… I still have stuff in the freezer but if see another toastie I’ll cry
trump is chukcing a tanty saying that he’ll close the borders if he doesn’t get money for the ‘wall’
I wonder if he’ll name it Trump Walls
The “Tintin St George” isn’t so bad. If you look closely the face is basically the same as the original.

Arts said:
trump is chukcing a tanty saying that he’ll close the borders if he doesn’t get money for the ‘wall’I wonder if he’ll name it Trump Walls
Unless Trump falls before then.
dv said:
The “Tintin St George” isn’t so bad. If you look closely the face is basically the same as the original.
he looks like he’s just got a toaster for Christmas
dv said:
The “Tintin St George” isn’t so bad. If you look closely the face is basically the same as the original.
Just some toning and lining to attend to.
Arts said:
dv said:
The “Tintin St George” isn’t so bad. If you look closely the face is basically the same as the original.
he looks like he’s just got a toaster for Christmas
and he’s wearing it
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Currently 25 here and windy again.
Please make it stop.
I’m getting rattled.
Yes, looks quite a lot stronger down your way:
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-213.99,-37.70,1757/loc=147.448,-43.414
There is some interesting windy stuff going on in the roaring 40s. There is also something nasty hovering up above Japan.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I’m pretty sure that tourist deaths from accidents and random acts of violence exceed deaths due terrorist activities by several orders of magnitude.
OTOH, Egypt is probably pretty near the top in both of those categories as well.
According to one of my staff (now retired), going in a tourist bus in Egypt is terror in itself with the driving methods.
I shouldn’t wonder.
Also, the Egyptian government wants lots and lots of tourists but they’re also running a campaign to “confront and eliminate atheism” which involves increasing numbers of arrests.
Ditto their persecution of LGBT people etc.
But strangely those Australian politicians who say they support freedom of religion have nothing to say on this matter.
sarahs mum said:
Impressive. In my experience summer and winter school units just stuff things up. I did do ‘Picturing the Wilderness’ as a summer school and that was a revelation and a great course and it was only available as a summer school unit.
Ben is starting a physics unit next week. Seems a shame.
Why is it a shame that Ben’s starting physics? I’d have thought that an essential part of engineering.
This one attracted much lack of sympathy in the comments:
Experience: my Airbnb guests threw a New Year party for 300 people
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/dec/28/experience-my-airbnb-guests-threw-a-party-for-300-people
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-29/opal-tower-crack-sparks-calss-for-broad-inquiry/10673134
Hey, Rev, what’s your take on all this?
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:oh…
The photographer chap who had the broken toy shop. He was having all sorts of problems with AUSTUDY. But now he has a part time job as a real estate photographer.
that’s nice for him.. glad he’s getting stuff done, but I still don’t remember him… not to worry
Twoy.
He came to one of the puds we had at the Moon. I recall him being at the one when se sat in the back room for dinner and you were doing arty photographs of my pint of Guinness.
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-29/opal-tower-crack-sparks-calss-for-broad-inquiry/10673134Hey, Rev, what’s your take on all this?
I’m reserving my judgement until all the architects and scientists have completed their investigations and made their reports:)
There’s a fair bit of discussion on Eng-tips under “failures and disasters”.
‘Sydney to Hobart protest against Wild Oats XI deemed invalid – super-rich dick-wavers will have to find something else to quibble about’ – ABC News, sort of.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-29/opal-tower-crack-sparks-calss-for-broad-inquiry/10673134Hey, Rev, what’s your take on all this?
I’m reserving my judgement until all the architects and scientists have completed their investigations and made their reports:)
There’s a fair bit of discussion on Eng-tips under “failures and disasters”.
Oh, I’ll wander over and have a look. Ta.
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-29/opal-tower-crack-sparks-calss-for-broad-inquiry/10673134Hey, Rev, what’s your take on all this?
I’m reserving my judgement until all the architects and scientists have completed their investigations and made their reports:)
There’s a fair bit of discussion on Eng-tips under “failures and disasters”.
Oh, I’ll wander over and have a look. Ta.
Ooooo
Wood & Grieve Engineers, who worked on the building, said online: “The large structural offsets at the base of the towers created a particular challenge. The difficulty was in the coordination of transferring sewer and storm water services through the deep transfer beams and large transfer slabs.”
“Due to the height of the building which imposes excessive pressures on the pipework and fittings installed on the lower half of the building, the WGE team came up with a unique dual stage pressure control concept and conducted a series of experimental tests to simulate the real working condition of the system before specifying it for installation in the building.”
I wasn’t aware that WGE were the designers. I’ve worked with them a bit over the last few years; although nothing at all to do with the structural team.
dv said:
The “Tintin St George” isn’t so bad. If you look closely the face is basically the same as the original.
Some are done better than others.

btm said:
sarahs mum said:Impressive. In my experience summer and winter school units just stuff things up. I did do ‘Picturing the Wilderness’ as a summer school and that was a revelation and a great course and it was only available as a summer school unit.
Ben is starting a physics unit next week. Seems a shame.
Why is it a shame that Ben’s starting physics? I’d have thought that an essential part of engineering.
the summer school. it’s a shame he isn’t having a few more weeks holiday.
Hey Mr buffy – are you lurking? The “mouse poo” along under the window in the loungeroom here was not mouse poo. Little insects. I’ve had them in the kitchen before. There were a lot of them. Not sure how they got into the house.
Probably very small beetles.
buffy said:
Probably very small beetles.
Yes I sometimes get small dark beetles that look like mouse poo.
I think I’ll go outside and attack some bushes with the secateurs for a short time. Then have a nap.
He Fried For Our Sins



Predict problems
https://i.imgur.com/TawAKIN.mp4
Good doggy
https://i.imgur.com/KmS6F92.mp4
time of I got ready for this afternoon’s regimented merriment.
party_pants said:
time of I got ready for this afternoon’s regimented merriment.
Don’t burn the snags, that would be the last straw.
party_pants said:
time of I got ready for this afternoon’s regimented merriment.
You’re going?
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
time of I got ready for this afternoon’s regimented merriment.
You’re going?
have fun.. call out the quiz answers in a really loud voice.. also.. make them all incorrect
Arts said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
time of I got ready for this afternoon’s regimented merriment.
You’re going?
have fun.. call out the quiz answers in a really loud voice.. also.. make them all incorrect
“Which Monty Python member was famous for his silly walks?”
“JAKE THE PEG!”
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
time of I got ready for this afternoon’s regimented merriment.
You’re going?
Having promised to help out I feel kind of obliged to now.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
time of I got ready for this afternoon’s regimented merriment.
You’re going?
Having promised to help out I feel kind of obliged to now.
But, but, but, you’ll miss the cricket.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:You’re going?
Having promised to help out I feel kind of obliged to now.
But, but, but, you’ll miss the cricket.
Yes. I know :(
Niece’s husband is a cricket and footy tragic. Hoping he’ll have a TV on somewhere, even with the sound turned down.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:Having promised to help out I feel kind of obliged to now.
But, but, but, you’ll miss the cricket.
Yes. I know :(
Niece’s husband is a cricket and footy tragic. Hoping he’ll have a TV on somewhere, even with the sound turned down.
I think I’ll wear my brightest orange Scorchers shirt.
party_pants said:
I think I’ll wear my brightest orange Scorchers shirt.
Look after your feet.
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
I think I’ll wear my brightest orange Scorchers shirt.
Look after your feet.
I will not join in the swimming pool activities from 4-6pm.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
I think I’ll wear my brightest orange Scorchers shirt.
Look after your feet.
I will not join in the swimming pool activities from 4-6pm.
Remember sunscreen. And take a camera.

JudgeMental said:
my goodness I hope that is real
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:
my goodness I hope that is real
it is.. that’s delicious
Arts said:
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:
my goodness I hope that is real
it is.. that’s delicious
“Street artist Plastic Jesus placed a miniature wall around Donald Trump’s star back in 2016.”
oh it’s old news
The Sleeping Warrior
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jSxKfng87w&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR0j8qQQ5VttFuoGElXFl7OgKgW6b94-WFZuime9v97851qA4HPe2fjRhg0
—-
I hadn’t heard this before but it was something John wrote down as something he would like at his funeral.
35 years ago, Isaac Asimov was asked by the Star to predict the world of 2019. Here is what he wrote
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2018/12/27/35-years-ago-isaac-asimov-was-asked-by-the-star-to-predict-the-world-of-2019-here-is-what-he-wrote.html?fbclid=IwAR0bZAXHYE7anXsg6girlwyVdxf3DkRGmZeNhxvVqwGpiYF3AptKpjBqfGw
Arts said:
Arts said:
Arts said:my goodness I hope that is real
it is.. that’s delicious
“Street artist Plastic Jesus placed a miniature wall around Donald Trump’s star back in 2016.”
oh it’s old news
like my jokes.

dv said:
That’s a word where the n is silent.
There is a documentary on the popes on SBS tonight at 8.30. I think I might watch that. But NITV has something interesting on also.
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
That’s a word where the n is silent.
or it could just be the n word
Pope series is on SBS tonight. I am not religious but it is worth watching for the historical and political aspects, it explained some stuff to me. Last weeks was the various dramas of two popes and crusades shenanigans.
buffy said:
There is a documentary on the popes on SBS tonight at 8.30. I think I might watch that. But NITV has something interesting on also.
Snap.
AwesomeO said:
Pope series is on SBS tonight. I am not religious but it is worth watching for the historical and political aspects, it explained some stuff to me. Last weeks was the various dramas of two popes and crusades shenanigans.
I didn’t realize it is a series. Doesn’t matter. I’ll give it a go anyway. I’m not religious either but it shoudl still be interesting.
Smoked chicken breast with salad of lettuce, tomato, pickled onions, gherkin, hard boiled egg. And a small packet of chips.
Far-right activist refuses police requests to stop filming group playing soccer at St Kilda Beach
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-29/st-kilda-clash-far-right-activists-target-young-men/10673088
Key points:
Police used capsicum spray to arrest a man who allegedly assaulted police during the incident The activist behind the video holds a conviction for inciting serious contempt of Muslims The activists refused to stop filming despite repeated requests by police officersVictoria’s Police Minister has warned the community against inciting violence after far-right activists filmed a group of men playing soccer at St Kilda Beach, refusing multiple police requests to stop recording.
A video of the incident posted on social media by far-right activist Neil Erikson — who last year approached former Labor senator Sam Dastyari in a pub and called him a “terrorist” and a “monkey” — shows footage of young men playing soccer on the St Kilda foreshore around 5:30pm on Friday.
more…
Had lunch in the historic town of Tenterfield today.
Saw the new Coles complex, it’s free to get in and I bought a few small things.
Went into K-Mart as well, very nice.
Peak Warming Man said:
Had lunch in the historic town of Tenterfield today.
Saw the new Coles complex, it’s free to get in and I bought a few small things.
Went into K-Mart as well, very nice.
Could you tell when you were in K-mart that you were in Tenterfield? Or was it just a clone of all the other k-marts you have visited?
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Had lunch in the historic town of Tenterfield today.
Saw the new Coles complex, it’s free to get in and I bought a few small things.
Went into K-Mart as well, very nice.
Could you tell when you were in K-mart that you were in Tenterfield? Or was it just a clone of all the other k-marts you have visited?
Well it was a bit like all the others although you could tell it was country, the check out girl was plain but homely and very polite. She had a lovely smile and a lovely tooth.
Peak Warming Man said:
Saw the new Coles complex, it’s free to get in….
The day that Coles starts charging admission…
‘Global company Lime hits a brick wall with its electric scooter rollout on the Gold Coast, with the local council seizing its scooters after it said the company did not have permission to operate there.’ – ABCNews
Someone didn’t get their brown paper bag, methinks.
transition said:
from walk over the dam shortly ago, still trying for good pictures of wrens
type variagated maybe could be juvenile and/or female, not sure, i’m new to the wren thing.
moment ago..
captain_spalding said:
‘Global company Lime hits a brick wall with its electric scooter rollout on the Gold Coast, with the local council seizing its scooters after it said the company did not have permission to operate there.’ – ABCNewsSomeone didn’t get their brown paper bag, methinks.
Deliberate mistake? Free publicity?
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
‘Global company Lime hits a brick wall with its electric scooter rollout on the Gold Coast, with the local council seizing its scooters after it said the company did not have permission to operate there.’ – ABCNewsSomeone didn’t get their brown paper bag, methinks.
Deliberate mistake? Free publicity?
Another possibility, that.
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
‘Global company Lime hits a brick wall with its electric scooter rollout on the Gold Coast, with the local council seizing its scooters after it said the company did not have permission to operate there.’ – ABCNewsSomeone didn’t get their brown paper bag, methinks.
Deliberate mistake? Free publicity?
So cynical and yet so young. Hang on…
transition said:
transition said:
from walk over the dam shortly ago, still trying for good pictures of wrens
type variagated maybe could be juvenile and/or female, not sure, i’m new to the wren thing.
moment ago..
Second photo is great, send it in to the ABC of Your Photos from Around Australia.
Peak Warming Man said:
transition said:
transition said:
from walk over the dam shortly ago, still trying for good pictures of wrens
type variagated maybe could be juvenile and/or female, not sure, i’m new to the wren thing.
moment ago..
Second photo is great, send it in to the ABC of Your Photos from Around Australia.
First photo is good, too. We can’t all be born with lovely blue chests.
And Civilisations is on again tonight. That’s once mixed up show, started off as a bit of a primer on history with one presenter, then seems to have morphed into art history with other presenters. Coherent it is not, but I m liking it anyway. My learning from last week was Otto DIx, never heard of him before or seen his works but did some looking afterwards and like his work.
It’s a funny thing being able to google something on a handheld device a moment after hearing about it. Back in the day you would have to trek down to a library.
AwesomeO said:
And Civilisations is on again tonight. That’s once mixed up show, started off as a bit of a primer on history with one presenter, then seems to have morphed into art history with other presenters. Coherent it is not, but I m liking it anyway. My learning from last week was Otto DIx, never heard of him before or seen his works but did some looking afterwards and like his work.It’s a funny thing being able to google something on a handheld device a moment after hearing about it. Back in the day you would have to trek down to a library.
And if you were one of the lucky ones who could read.
AwesomeO said:
And Civilisations is on again tonight. That’s once mixed up show, started off as a bit of a primer on history with one presenter, then seems to have morphed into art history with other presenters. Coherent it is not, but I m liking it anyway. My learning from last week was Otto DIx, never heard of him before or seen his works but did some looking afterwards and like his work.It’s a funny thing being able to google something on a handheld device a moment after hearing about it. Back in the day you would have to trek down to a library.
Information retrieval is almost instant.
AwesomeO said:
And Civilisations is on again tonight. That’s once mixed up show, started off as a bit of a primer on history with one presenter, then seems to have morphed into art history with other presenters. Coherent it is not, but I m liking it anyway. My learning from last week was Otto DIx, never heard of him before or seen his works but did some looking afterwards and like his work.It’s a funny thing being able to google something on a handheld device a moment after hearing about it. Back in the day you would have to trek down to a library.
Or down to the oracle at Delphi.
sibeen said:
AwesomeO said:
And Civilisations is on again tonight. That’s once mixed up show, started off as a bit of a primer on history with one presenter, then seems to have morphed into art history with other presenters. Coherent it is not, but I m liking it anyway. My learning from last week was Otto DIx, never heard of him before or seen his works but did some looking afterwards and like his work.It’s a funny thing being able to google something on a handheld device a moment after hearing about it. Back in the day you would have to trek down to a library.
Or down to the oracle at Delphi.
Improvements there as well, drugs are cheap and readily available these days.
I think the trail cam needs to be hidden a bit better…

AwesomeO said:
It’s a funny thing being able to google something on a handheld device a moment after hearing about it. Back in the day you would have to trek down to a library.
Witty Rejoinder said:
AwesomeO said:It’s a funny thing being able to google something on a handheld device a moment after hearing about it. Back in the day you would have to trek down to a library.
Any self-respecting household would have an encyclopedia surely.
Ours must have been a disrespectful household.
It’s Sir Michael Palin, Sir Alastair Cook and Sir Twiggy now if you don’t mind.
AwesomeO said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
AwesomeO said:It’s a funny thing being able to google something on a handheld device a moment after hearing about it. Back in the day you would have to trek down to a library.
Any self-respecting household would have an encyclopedia surely.Ours must have been a disrespectful household.
We had a set of World Book Encyclopedias. I won them in some competition when I was about 13. Actually, I’ve still got them.
buffy said:
AwesomeO said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Any self-respecting household would have an encyclopedia surely.
Ours must have been a disrespectful household.
We had a set of World Book Encyclopedias. I won them in some competition when I was about 13. Actually, I’ve still got them.
I’ve been thinking about it and we didn’t have many books at all. I had books in my bedroom, I was into sci-fi and sorcery fantasy then. But not many in the home, I guess Dad didn’t bring any with him from Ireland and was too busy working after that, he used to get electrical magazines though.
AwesomeO said:
And Civilisations is on again tonight. That’s once mixed up show, started off as a bit of a primer on history with one presenter, then seems to have morphed into art history with other presenters. Coherent it is not, but I m liking it anyway. My learning from last week was Otto DIx, never heard of him before or seen his works but did some looking afterwards and like his work.It’s a funny thing being able to google something on a handheld device a moment after hearing about it. Back in the day you would have to trek down to a library.
It’s a Simon Scharma show. He is an art academic who generally deals with landscape and history. I think I actually prefer to read him.
buffy said:
AwesomeO said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Any self-respecting household would have an encyclopedia surely.
Ours must have been a disrespectful household.
We had a set of World Book Encyclopedias. I won them in some competition when I was about 13. Actually, I’ve still got them.
I won the entire Encyclopedia Britannica on DVD when I was 13…for finding the 532nd number of Pi … joke was on them, there was an online search engine that could get to the 52 millionth decimal or something huge like that so it was rather easy.
I no longer have the DVD and it was a bit irrelevant when it arrived as well.
Thank heavens the wind died down.
AwesomeO said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
AwesomeO said:It’s a funny thing being able to google something on a handheld device a moment after hearing about it. Back in the day you would have to trek down to a library.
Any self-respecting household would have an encyclopedia surely.Ours must have been a disrespectful household.
Yes I was being a little TIC.
https://www.facebook.com/StylistMagazine/videos/763348530699431/
The best feminist moments of 2018
The senior officer in charge of policing Edinburgh’s Hogmanay celebrations has issued a stark warning that anyone attempting to fly a drone will be immediately arrested. Chief Superintendent Kenny MacDonald’s message came amid heightened public anxiety following the incident at Gatwick Airport that caused widespread disruption to air travel.
Read more at: https://www.scotsman.com/news/hogmanay-no-fly-zone-will-forbid-drones-in-edinburgh-1-4849496?fbclid=IwAR2KWAO-0yXFXXY7ZADOw6dVrGuQjY2RGareDnVwxRdlBzdhf45zHrDf9dY
sarahs mum said:
The senior officer in charge of policing Edinburgh’s Hogmanay celebrations has issued a stark warning that anyone attempting to fly a drone will be immediately arrested. Chief Superintendent Kenny MacDonald’s message came amid heightened public anxiety following the incident at Gatwick Airport that caused widespread disruption to air travel.Read more at: https://www.scotsman.com/news/hogmanay-no-fly-zone-will-forbid-drones-in-edinburgh-1-4849496?fbclid=IwAR2KWAO-0yXFXXY7ZADOw6dVrGuQjY2RGareDnVwxRdlBzdhf45zHrDf9dY
Was there even a drone at Gatwick?
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
transition said:moment ago..
Second photo is great, send it in to the ABC of Your Photos from Around Australia.
First photo is good, too. We can’t all be born with lovely blue chests.
They are awesome. I have variegated wrens here but I’ve never managed to get shots like these.
Ben Lee, who knew? Been flogging this today.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zvIP16J7QgM
Just had to catch and release a bluetongue, striped skink. Big bugger too. It had somehow found its way into the house and wasn’t going to leave.
roughbarked said:
Just had to catch and release a bluetongue, striped skink. Big bugger too. It had somehow found its way into the house and wasn’t going to leave.
Did it challenge you?
poikilotherm said:
sarahs mum said:
The senior officer in charge of policing Edinburgh’s Hogmanay celebrations has issued a stark warning that anyone attempting to fly a drone will be immediately arrested. Chief Superintendent Kenny MacDonald’s message came amid heightened public anxiety following the incident at Gatwick Airport that caused widespread disruption to air travel.Read more at: https://www.scotsman.com/news/hogmanay-no-fly-zone-will-forbid-drones-in-edinburgh-1-4849496?fbclid=IwAR2KWAO-0yXFXXY7ZADOw6dVrGuQjY2RGareDnVwxRdlBzdhf45zHrDf9dY
Was there even a drone at Gatwick?
I don’t think so.
>>The ABC understands a small number of residents in the Opal Tower building are still inside because of mobility issues. <<
From here: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-29/opal-tower-crack-sparks-calls-for-broad-inquiry/10673134
That’s rather concerning.
buffy said:
>>The ABC understands a small number of residents in the Opal Tower building are still inside because of mobility issues. <<From here: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-29/opal-tower-crack-sparks-calls-for-broad-inquiry/10673134
That’s rather concerning.
It’s all good – it’s just a ‘small’ slab of concrete on the 10th floor with a wee crack, no problem at all.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
Just had to catch and release a bluetongue, striped skink. Big bugger too. It had somehow found its way into the house and wasn’t going to leave.
Did it challenge you?
No. All it wanted to do was hide deeper inside the house. It only challenged my attempts to put it outside by jumping out of my hands and diving back inside.
buffy said:
>>The ABC understands a small number of residents in the Opal Tower building are still inside because of mobility issues. <<From here: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-29/opal-tower-crack-sparks-calls-for-broad-inquiry/10673134
That’s rather concerning.
It is yes.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
Just had to catch and release a bluetongue, striped skink. Big bugger too. It had somehow found its way into the house and wasn’t going to leave.
Did it challenge you?
No. All it wanted to do was hide deeper inside the house. It only challenged my attempts to put it outside by jumping out of my hands and diving back inside.
Ours have more fight than that….they turn and face you and hiss at you. And show you their tongue.
Well that fire work piece was pretty triffic. Pity to lose it.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:Did it challenge you?
No. All it wanted to do was hide deeper inside the house. It only challenged my attempts to put it outside by jumping out of my hands and diving back inside.
Ours have more fight than that….they turn and face you and hiss at you. And show you their tongue.
There was a family of magpies hanging around the back door.
transition said:
transition said:
from walk over the dam shortly ago, still trying for good pictures of wrens
type variagated maybe could be juvenile and/or female, not sure, i’m new to the wren thing.
moment ago..
best could do so far from the snake pit today, no blue breast, which’s what makes me think type variegated, though the blue on the blue-breasted wrens is very dark maybe, so dunno, the jury is still out. On the boundary here between two types
transition said:
transition said:
transition said:
from walk over the dam shortly ago, still trying for good pictures of wrens
type variagated maybe could be juvenile and/or female, not sure, i’m new to the wren thing.
moment ago..
best could do so far from the snake pit today, no blue breast, which’s what makes me think type variegated, though the blue on the blue-breasted wrens is very dark maybe, so dunno, the jury is still out. On the boundary here between two types
I’ve got some wrens here this morning following me around while mowing. But you can’t tell the boys from the girls at the moment because the boys only blue up during mating season and we have passed that.
buffy said:
transition said:
transition said:moment ago..
best could do so far from the snake pit today, no blue breast, which’s what makes me think type variegated, though the blue on the blue-breasted wrens is very dark maybe, so dunno, the jury is still out. On the boundary here between two types
I’ve got some wrens here this morning following me around while mowing. But you can’t tell the boys from the girls at the moment because the boys only blue up during mating season and we have passed that.
Wrens are like that, yes.
transition said:
transition said:
transition said:
from walk over the dam shortly ago, still trying for good pictures of wrens
type variagated maybe could be juvenile and/or female, not sure, i’m new to the wren thing.
moment ago..
best could do so far from the snake pit today, no blue breast, which’s what makes me think type variegated, though the blue on the blue-breasted wrens is very dark maybe, so dunno, the jury is still out. On the boundary here between two types
actually did get a better pictures, pays to look at them all..
transition said:
transition said:
transition said:moment ago..
best could do so far from the snake pit today, no blue breast, which’s what makes me think type variegated, though the blue on the blue-breasted wrens is very dark maybe, so dunno, the jury is still out. On the boundary here between two types
actually did get a better pictures, pays to look at them all..
It is definitely variegated rather than purple backed. But then is it a red winged wren? All these are very close.
actually did get a better pictures, pays to look at them all..
That’s a goodun.
Ian said:
actually did get a better pictures, pays to look at them all..
That’s a goodun.
It is awesome.
roughbarked said:
Ian said:actually did get a better pictures, pays to look at them all..
That’s a goodun.
It is awesome.
It is good. Mrs S lies photographing birds, but it’s so difficult because they’re very quick, and she’s not one for ‘snap’ shots.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
Ian said:actually did get a better pictures, pays to look at them all..
That’s a goodun.
It is awesome.
It is good. Mrs S lies photographing birds, but it’s so difficult because they’re very quick, and she’s not one for ‘snap’ shots.
All very true.
I’m lucky often because they know me in the backyard and I daresay that trans is well known at each of the watering holes he has to service each day.
roughbarked said:
Ian said:actually did get a better pictures, pays to look at them all..
That’s a goodun.
It is awesome.
Magazine quality.
Ian said:
actually did get a better pictures, pays to look at them all..
That’s a goodun.
Wren Arse shot…
poikilotherm said:
Ian said:actually did get a better pictures, pays to look at them all..
That’s a goodun.
Wren Arse shot…
conveniently censored.
Dame June Whitfield, celebrated for her roles in some of the best-loved British sitcoms of the last 50 years, has died aged 93.
The London-born actress was a regular fixture on TV and radio for seven decades, her best-known roles coming in Terry and June, in which she played half of a middle-aged, middle-class suburban couple, and as Jennifer Saunders’s mother in Absolutely Fabulous. She also appeared in Carry On films, Hancock’s Half Hour, and even had a part in Friends. Whitfield’s agent confirmed her “peaceful” death on Friday.
more..
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2018/dec/29/dame-june-whitfield-dies-aged-93?CMP=soc_567&fbclid=IwAR1vZsCKW4fXrFwnGgSqgVc5S60kpVDqklgusX14NFNYgfZ3gq7aJSPbArw
Lord save us from spell checkers that talk shit. Now it’s trying to tell me that “sustainably” is not a word.
sarahs mum said:
Dame June Whitfield, celebrated for her roles in some of the best-loved British sitcoms of the last 50 years, has died aged 93.The London-born actress was a regular fixture on TV and radio for seven decades, her best-known roles coming in Terry and June, in which she played half of a middle-aged, middle-class suburban couple, and as Jennifer Saunders’s mother in Absolutely Fabulous. She also appeared in Carry On films, Hancock’s Half Hour, and even had a part in Friends. Whitfield’s agent confirmed her “peaceful” death on Friday.
more..
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2018/dec/29/dame-june-whitfield-dies-aged-93?CMP=soc_567&fbclid=IwAR1vZsCKW4fXrFwnGgSqgVc5S60kpVDqklgusX14NFNYgfZ3gq7aJSPbArw
She had a good long run. One of those I would have assumed had died some time ago.
Bubblecar said:
Lord save us from spell checkers that talk shit. Now it’s trying to tell me that “sustainably” is not a word.
The auto correct for my writing app keeps changing “uninjured” to “uninsured”.
I’ve found my new background, thanks to New Horizons.
I’m home. I remembered to pick up 4 loaves of bread from Vinnie’s on the way.
My bird picture today was nowhere near as good as trans…and I have no idea what it is. Small and tuneful.
buffy said:
I’m home. I remembered to pick up 4 loaves of bread from Vinnie’s on the way.
That’s terrible, are you so hard up, maybe the forum could have a whip around.
I play “blitz” games against random players on chess.com. You don’t have much time to think so there are usually blunders galore but what I like is when my opponent charges in with the queen on the diagonal to take a rook, and I box their queen in behind a knight, pretty much retires their queen.
dv said:
I play “blitz” games against random players on chess.com. You don’t have much time to think so there are usually blunders galore but what I like is when my opponent charges in with the queen on the diagonal to take a rook, and I box their queen in behind a knight, pretty much retires their queen.
Boxed in in what position?
Bubblecar said:
Lord save us from spell checkers that talk shit. Now it’s trying to tell me that “sustainably” is not a word.
Does it like sustainable, sustainability?
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
I play “blitz” games against random players on chess.com. You don’t have much time to think so there are usually blunders galore but what I like is when my opponent charges in with the queen on the diagonal to take a rook, and I box their queen in behind a knight, pretty much retires their queen.
Boxed in in what position?
There are various combos but a typical case:

with the knight protected by a pawn and the bishop protected by king or queen.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Bubblecar said:
Lord save us from spell checkers that talk shit. Now it’s trying to tell me that “sustainably” is not a word.
Does it like sustainable, sustainability?
It really is most baffling.
There aren’t that many words in the English language. A million, tops, if you include all technical terms and derived forms. An exhaustive word list takes up maybe 8 MB. It’s fuckin’ nothing compared to an application’s size these days.
Malcolm Turnbull ‘doesn’t have a political bone in his body’, Peter Dutton says
Stating emphatically that he was not a stalking horse for former leader Tony Abbott or a right-wing “Bible basher”, Mr Dutton said Mr Turnbull lost the Liberal Party 15 seats in the 2016 election.
“In 2016, Malcolm ran the worst campaign in Liberal Party history, and we ended up losing 15 seats and were left with a one-seat majority which just made the Parliament unmanageable. We were paralysed,” he said.
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Yet I still sense Tony Abbott and a far right club of wacky and evil politicians.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Malcolm Turnbull ‘doesn’t have a political bone in his body’, Peter Dutton saysStating emphatically that he was not a stalking horse for former leader Tony Abbott or a right-wing “Bible basher”, Mr Dutton said Mr Turnbull lost the Liberal Party 15 seats in the 2016 election.
“In 2016, Malcolm ran the worst campaign in Liberal Party history, and we ended up losing 15 seats and were left with a one-seat majority which just made the Parliament unmanageable. We were paralysed,” he said.
===
Yet I still sense Tony Abbott and a far right club of wacky and evil politicians.
Hard for them to let go inst it.
I guess its easier for the far right to hold a grudge and run with it, instead of HTFU and behaving like a team.
But Tony Abbott loves holding grudges does not like teamwork and so to does this far right club of bully boys.
I suck at chess. I like Othello though.
I watched Bandersnatch and it was ok but then I read Reddit and now I’m bummed that I didn’t get all the really cool options.
Divine Angel said:
I watched Bandersnatch and it was ok but then I read Reddit and now I’m bummed that I didn’t get all the really cool options.
I have no idea what the above sentence menas.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Malcolm Turnbull ‘doesn’t have a political bone in his body’, Peter Dutton saysStating emphatically that he was not a stalking horse for former leader Tony Abbott or a right-wing “Bible basher”, Mr Dutton said Mr Turnbull lost the Liberal Party 15 seats in the 2016 election.
“In 2016, Malcolm ran the worst campaign in Liberal Party history, and we ended up losing 15 seats and were left with a one-seat majority which just made the Parliament unmanageable. We were paralysed,” he said.
===
Yet I still sense Tony Abbott and a far right club of wacky and evil politicians.
Yet again I point out the amount of stuff done by Julia Gillard’s minority government. Is he saying that his side is not as capable as she was?
;)
And I picked roses yesterday in Casterton. They are sort of frilly and smaller now the hot weather has come. But they still have perfume.
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:
I watched Bandersnatch and it was ok but then I read Reddit and now I’m bummed that I didn’t get all the really cool options.
I have no idea what the above sentence menas.
Bandersnatch is an interactive show on Netflix, a choose-your-own-adventure style in which you make choices for the main character in the show. There are different paths; apparently I chose all the boring ones because I’ve since found out there are more interesting paths to take, leading to more interesting endings.
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:
I watched Bandersnatch and it was ok but then I read Reddit and now I’m bummed that I didn’t get all the really cool options.
I have no idea what the above sentence menas.
Bandersnatch is an interactive show on Netflix, a choose-your-own-adventure style in which you make choices for the main character in the show. There are different paths; apparently I chose all the boring ones because I’ve since found out there are more interesting paths to take, leading to more interesting endings.
Are you able to watch it more than once?
btm said:
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:I have no idea what the above sentence menas.
Bandersnatch is an interactive show on Netflix, a choose-your-own-adventure style in which you make choices for the main character in the show. There are different paths; apparently I chose all the boring ones because I’ve since found out there are more interesting paths to take, leading to more interesting endings.
Are you able to watch it more than once?
Yes.
Awesome about? Looks like the episode of Pope last night was the fourth of six and the next one (next week) is about the wartime popes. Apparently they are trying to tie various things together, but I did get a bit lost when we suddenly jumped to Francis last night.
Tonight there is a Maigret on ABC. It’s a repeat, but I think I can survive that with no trouble.
We’re at Hyde Park. I love the bird life here. There’s about 25 different avian species present today.
dv said:
We’re at Hyde Park. I love the bird life here. There’s about 25 different avian species present today.
London, Sydney, Far Kew?
buffy said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Malcolm Turnbull ‘doesn’t have a political bone in his body’, Peter Dutton saysStating emphatically that he was not a stalking horse for former leader Tony Abbott or a right-wing “Bible basher”, Mr Dutton said Mr Turnbull lost the Liberal Party 15 seats in the 2016 election.
“In 2016, Malcolm ran the worst campaign in Liberal Party history, and we ended up losing 15 seats and were left with a one-seat majority which just made the Parliament unmanageable. We were paralysed,” he said.
===
Yet I still sense Tony Abbott and a far right club of wacky and evil politicians.
Yet again I point out the amount of stuff done by Julia Gillard’s minority government. Is he saying that his side is not as capable as she was?
;)
I think your right.
Also Peter Dutton is trying to cover up the fact that it was he who paralyzed the government so blames Malcom Turnball.
Creating a distraction wont work Peter, we know what happened,. changing the story around wont help.
Bullying,is not good leadership quality.
Being un productive by not working as a team isn’t good leadership quality either.
Things were ok with Malcolm Turnball’s Government, it was the Tony’s far right club that threw the spanner into the works.
The result of which saw the Wentworth electorate change hands to Kerryn Phelps.
That far right club if theirs shows a bunch of ugly men, desperate for things not to change.
sibeen said:
dv said:
We’re at Hyde Park. I love the bird life here. There’s about 25 different avian species present today.
London, Sydney, Far Kew?
Poif
If I was in charge of naming roads, I’d totally make a Far Kew Place.
Divine Angel said:
If I was in charge of naming roads, I’d totally make a Far Kew Place.
Five more months til Dutton is gone and six til he’s forgotten.
dv said:
Five more months til Dutton is gone and six til he’s forgotten.
There was a big swing against him last time, and the Greens picked up a lot of votes as did Labor. The Greens are perhaps a bit on the nose which may affect the result.
dv said:
Five more months til Dutton is gone and six til he’s forgotten.
Do you think he’ll lose Dickson?
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
Five more months til Dutton is gone and six til he’s forgotten.
Do you think he’ll lose Dickson?
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
Five more months til Dutton is gone and six til he’s forgotten.
Do you think he’ll lose Dickson?
I do hope so. He is an example, a symptom, of what is wrong with our country.
(And he is blaming Turnbull whilst saying he and Tony are not to blame when it is obvious they are to blame.Abetz is not obvious but he also is to blame. We’ve just got to stop voting for people who don’t like us.)
sarahs mum said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
Five more months til Dutton is gone and six til he’s forgotten.
Do you think he’ll lose Dickson?
I do hope so. He is an example, a symptom, of what is wrong with our country.
(And he is blaming Turnbull whilst saying he and Tony are not to blame when it is obvious they are to blame.Abetz is not obvious but he also is to blame. We’ve just got to stop voting for people who don’t like us.)
Who is ‘us’?
Witty Rejoinder said:
sarahs mum said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Do you think he’ll lose Dickson?
I do hope so. He is an example, a symptom, of what is wrong with our country.
(And he is blaming Turnbull whilst saying he and Tony are not to blame when it is obvious they are to blame.Abetz is not obvious but he also is to blame. We’ve just got to stop voting for people who don’t like us.)
Who is ‘us’?
Australians.
Witty Rejoinder said:
sarahs mum said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Do you think he’ll lose Dickson?
I do hope so. He is an example, a symptom, of what is wrong with our country.
(And he is blaming Turnbull whilst saying he and Tony are not to blame when it is obvious they are to blame.Abetz is not obvious but he also is to blame. We’ve just got to stop voting for people who don’t like us.)
Who is ‘us’?
The Australian people who make up the most part of the population.
dv said:
We’re at Hyde Park. I love the bird life here. There’s about 25 different avian species present today.
I wish I’d brought a proper camera. But here are some of the birds:
A couple of spoonbills
This handsome fellow
Swans, 1 adult, 1 juvenile
dv said:
dv said:
We’re at Hyde Park. I love the bird life here. There’s about 25 different avian species present today.
I wish I’d brought a proper camera. But here are some of the birds:
A couple of spoonbills
This handsome fellow
Swans, 1 adult, 1 juvenile
The water also looks good.
Wonder if anyone fell for it.

Witty Rejoinder said:
sarahs mum said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Do you think he’ll lose Dickson?
I do hope so. He is an example, a symptom, of what is wrong with our country.
(And he is blaming Turnbull whilst saying he and Tony are not to blame when it is obvious they are to blame.Abetz is not obvious but he also is to blame. We’ve just got to stop voting for people who don’t like us.)
Who is ‘us’?
I mean 40% of Dicksonites presumably like him enough for them to vote for him even though he is by most accounts a bit of an arsehole. Maybe he is the perfect representative for that lot who might well be arseholes themselves. Seemingly democracy is working as it should AFAICT. I am very uneasy about language that divides people up into a simplistic nonsense of ‘us’ and ‘them’ which is very divisive and not very helpful when it comes to running a country that is a lot more cosmopolitan and tolerant than people on both the far left and the far right seem to think it is.
Now that is Karma!
https://i.imgur.com/0dBP2aP.mp4
Witty Rejoinder said:
I mean 40% of Dicksonites presumably like him enough for them to vote for him even though he is by most accounts a bit of an arsehole. Maybe he is the perfect representative for that lot who might well be arseholes themselves. Seemingly democracy is working as it should AFAICT. I am very uneasy about language that divides people up into a simplistic nonsense of ‘us’ and ‘them’ which is very divisive and not very helpful when it comes to running a country that is a lot more cosmopolitan and tolerant than people on both the far left and the far right seem to think it is.
(shrugs)
Social polling indicates they are way off base when it comes to the Australian population. The Abbott wing is much more conservative on social and racial issues than the general population. They were able to paper over this with Turnbull as PM but the party is over now. The ALP could end up with 100 seats.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sarahs mum said:I do hope so. He is an example, a symptom, of what is wrong with our country.
(And he is blaming Turnbull whilst saying he and Tony are not to blame when it is obvious they are to blame.Abetz is not obvious but he also is to blame. We’ve just got to stop voting for people who don’t like us.)
Who is ‘us’?
I mean 40% of Dicksonites presumably like him enough for them to vote for him even though he is by most accounts a bit of an arsehole. Maybe he is the perfect representative for that lot who might well be arseholes themselves. Seemingly democracy is working as it should AFAICT. I am very uneasy about language that divides people up into a simplistic nonsense of ‘us’ and ‘them’ which is very divisive and not very helpful when it comes to running a country that is a lot more cosmopolitan and tolerant than people on both the far left and the far right seem to think it is.
I totally agree about the language of division. I cannot recall a time in my life when it has been so us and them. Never so much homelessness. Never such attacks on welfare. Never such abuse of position. Not even much concern about anything but the economic future.
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
I mean 40% of Dicksonites presumably like him enough for them to vote for him even though he is by most accounts a bit of an arsehole. Maybe he is the perfect representative for that lot who might well be arseholes themselves. Seemingly democracy is working as it should AFAICT. I am very uneasy about language that divides people up into a simplistic nonsense of ‘us’ and ‘them’ which is very divisive and not very helpful when it comes to running a country that is a lot more cosmopolitan and tolerant than people on both the far left and the far right seem to think it is.
(shrugs)
Social polling indicates they are way off base when it comes to the Australian population. The Abbott wing is much more conservative on social and racial issues than the general population. They were able to paper over this with Turnbull as PM but the party is over now. The ALP could end up with 100 seats.
I wish I felt more confidence in the Labor party too.
sarahs mum said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Who is ‘us’?
I mean 40% of Dicksonites presumably like him enough for them to vote for him even though he is by most accounts a bit of an arsehole. Maybe he is the perfect representative for that lot who might well be arseholes themselves. Seemingly democracy is working as it should AFAICT. I am very uneasy about language that divides people up into a simplistic nonsense of ‘us’ and ‘them’ which is very divisive and not very helpful when it comes to running a country that is a lot more cosmopolitan and tolerant than people on both the far left and the far right seem to think it is.
I totally agree about the language of division. I cannot recall a time in my life when it has been so us and them. Never so much homelessness. Never such attacks on welfare. Never such abuse of position. Not even much concern about anything but the economic future.
Free cardboard boxes for all.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
I mean 40% of Dicksonites presumably like him enough for them to vote for him even though he is by most accounts a bit of an arsehole. Maybe he is the perfect representative for that lot who might well be arseholes themselves. Seemingly democracy is working as it should AFAICT. I am very uneasy about language that divides people up into a simplistic nonsense of ‘us’ and ‘them’ which is very divisive and not very helpful when it comes to running a country that is a lot more cosmopolitan and tolerant than people on both the far left and the far right seem to think it is.
(shrugs)
Social polling indicates they are way off base when it comes to the Australian population. The Abbott wing is much more conservative on social and racial issues than the general population. They were able to paper over this with Turnbull as PM but the party is over now. The ALP could end up with 100 seats.I wish I felt more confidence in the Labor party too.
We are looking for a party that can do te job and we are coming up short. en.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
I mean 40% of Dicksonites presumably like him enough for them to vote for him even though he is by most accounts a bit of an arsehole. Maybe he is the perfect representative for that lot who might well be arseholes themselves. Seemingly democracy is working as it should AFAICT. I am very uneasy about language that divides people up into a simplistic nonsense of ‘us’ and ‘them’ which is very divisive and not very helpful when it comes to running a country that is a lot more cosmopolitan and tolerant than people on both the far left and the far right seem to think it is.
(shrugs)
Social polling indicates they are way off base when it comes to the Australian population. The Abbott wing is much more conservative on social and racial issues than the general population. They were able to paper over this with Turnbull as PM but the party is over now. The ALP could end up with 100 seats.I wish I felt more confidence in the Labor party too.
There is also the leadership thing. It isn’t about leading the party. It is about leading the people. It isn’t about 3 word slogans or advertising jingles. It is about meaning dialogue that reaches the masses.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:(shrugs)
Social polling indicates they are way off base when it comes to the Australian population. The Abbott wing is much more conservative on social and racial issues than the general population. They were able to paper over this with Turnbull as PM but the party is over now. The ALP could end up with 100 seats.I wish I felt more confidence in the Labor party too.
There is also the leadership thing. It isn’t about leading the party. It is about leading the people. It isn’t about 3 word slogans or advertising jingles. It is about meaning dialogue that reaches the masses.
there’s the nub.
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:I wish I felt more confidence in the Labor party too.
There is also the leadership thing. It isn’t about leading the party. It is about leading the people. It isn’t about 3 word slogans or advertising jingles. It is about meaning dialogue that reaches the masses.
there’s the nub.
or rub. 
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:There is also the leadership thing. It isn’t about leading the party. It is about leading the people. It isn’t about 3 word slogans or advertising jingles. It is about meaning dialogue that reaches the masses.
there’s the nub.
or rub.
meaningFUL.
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:there’s the nub.
or rub.
meaningFUL.
It’s all a complete cock up.
We hear a lot about how fed up Australians are with their politicians.
There’s a swag of research showing the public’s satisfaction with our representatives, and even our democracy, is in decline.
But there’s an uncomfortable truth about voters too.
On the whole, we’re poorly informed about our biggest national challenges and hottest political debates.
This collective ignorance is exposed around this time each year by the Perils of Perception survey, which explores the gap between people’s perceptions about the world and the reality.
It has been conducted by the Ipsos polling company in more than 35 countries, including Australia, since 2012.
And each year the results show how mistaken we are about a raft of social realities.
The 2018 survey, released this month, happens to zero in on three issues bound to feature in next year’s federal election campaign: migration, renewable energy and the economy.
In each case, our perceptions are a long way from reality.
The survey questions on migration showed Australians vastly overestimate the proportion of the population born overseas. The average respondent guessed the share was 41 per cent, when the actual figure is 29 per cent.
We’re especially wide of the mark when it comes to Muslims.
When respondents were asked what share of the population were adherents to the Muslim faith, the average guess was 17 per cent, more than five times the actual figure of about 3 per cent (Americans were ever further off the mark – they guessed 17 per cent of their population is Muslim when it’s actually just 1 per cent).
We also wildly over-estimate the future growth in the Muslim population. In Australia, the average guess is that the Muslim population share will surge to 21 per cent by 2020, which is six or seven times higher than the projections by professional demographers.
There’s a revealing trend in the public’s thinking about the prevalence of overseas born in our population – the margin of error in our estimates is growing.
The average guess for overall migrant share of the population has risen by 3 percentage points since the question was last asked in 2015.
The erroneous trend is even more pronounced when it comes to Muslims; since 2016 the average guess for the share of Muslims in Australia has jumped from 10 per cent to 17 per cent.
Ipsos researchers have noticed that public perceptions are often most inaccurate on topics that are being widely discussed in the media, and on issues that are of concern to us.
The tendency for Australians to overestimate our Muslim population is a classic example.
Another case in point is renewable energy and the response to climate change, a policy issue that has plagued both major parties.
This year’s Perils of Perception survey asked respondents what share of energy consumed in Australia comes from renewable sources, such as wind and solar.
The average guess was 21 per cent, more than double the actual figure of 9 per cent.
In other words, voters have the impression that Australia is doing more to reduce greenhouse gas emission than we actually are.
Also, Australians underestimate the level of temperature change over the past two decades. The typical respondents said nine of the past 18 years were among the hottest on record globally when in reality it is 17.
Economic management is always a core issue at federal elections. But we’re wildly wrong on one of the most basic economic indicators: unemployment.
People think that 23 per cent of working age Australians are unemployed and looking for work when the actual figure is just 5 percent.
We also overestimate the scale of another important economic challenge: the ageing of the population.
When Australians were asked what proportion of the population is aged 65 and over, the average guess was at 37 per cent. That’s a mammoth 23 per cent more than the actual proportion of around 14 per cent. When respondents were asked what share of the population will be aged 65 years or older by 2050 the average guess was 51 per cent, more than double the actually figure projected by the World Bank.
When it comes to gauging our economic place in the world, Australians are too pessimistic; the average guess is that Australia has the 30th largest economy by GDP when in reality the World Bank ranks us 13th (when measured in US dollars).
Why are we so wrong, so often?
We are often exposed to being misled by those around us, be it family members, friends, the media or politicians. But the cause of our collective misconceptions runs much deeper than the “fake-news effect”.
Our own internal biases are crucial. The Perils of Perception survey shows there is a systematic pattern to our errors. People the world over tend to think things are worse than they really are.
Previous Ipsos surveys have shown Australians wrongly think the homicide rate is unchanged or rising even though it has been in decline for some years. We incorrectly assume deaths due to terrorism are on the rise and that the prevalence of diabetes is worse than it actually is. We overrate negatives and underrate positives and often assume the world is a more frightening and dysfunctional place than it really is.
But there is some good news. Despite our shortcomings, Australian voters are relatively well informed by international standards.
Each year Ipsos uses the Perils of Perception survey to produce a “Misperceptions Index”, which ranks nations according to how close public perceptions are to reality.
This year Australia was ranked the ninth “most accurate” country out of the 37 included in the survey.
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/the-uncomfortable-truth-about-voters-perception-versus-reality-20181228-p50olu.html?fbclid=IwAR05WSGpwbOvL2OvMEbkGeCZ6-EyeVAui0P2qJc3obaHp95yFOmG6y-VAfg
sarahs mum said:
We hear a lot about how fed up Australians are with their politicians.There’s a swag of research showing the public’s satisfaction with our representatives, and even our democracy, is in decline.
But there’s an uncomfortable truth about voters too.
On the whole, we’re poorly informed about our biggest national challenges and hottest political debates.
….
Certainly there’s some justification for us to be fed up with our politicians.
But the news media should accept their share of the blame as well.
How come we never hear about that?
sarahs mum said:
We hear a lot about how fed up Australians are with their politicians.There’s a swag of research showing the public’s satisfaction with our representatives, and even our democracy, is in decline.
But there’s an uncomfortable truth about voters too.
On the whole, we’re poorly informed about our biggest national challenges and hottest political debates.
This collective ignorance is exposed around this time each year by the Perils of Perception survey, which explores the gap between people’s perceptions about the world and the reality.
It has been conducted by the Ipsos polling company in more than 35 countries, including Australia, since 2012.
And each year the results show how mistaken we are about a raft of social realities.
The 2018 survey, released this month, happens to zero in on three issues bound to feature in next year’s federal election campaign: migration, renewable energy and the economy.
In each case, our perceptions are a long way from reality.
The survey questions on migration showed Australians vastly overestimate the proportion of the population born overseas. The average respondent guessed the share was 41 per cent, when the actual figure is 29 per cent.
We’re especially wide of the mark when it comes to Muslims.
When respondents were asked what share of the population were adherents to the Muslim faith, the average guess was 17 per cent, more than five times the actual figure of about 3 per cent (Americans were ever further off the mark – they guessed 17 per cent of their population is Muslim when it’s actually just 1 per cent).
We also wildly over-estimate the future growth in the Muslim population. In Australia, the average guess is that the Muslim population share will surge to 21 per cent by 2020, which is six or seven times higher than the projections by professional demographers.
There’s a revealing trend in the public’s thinking about the prevalence of overseas born in our population – the margin of error in our estimates is growing.
The average guess for overall migrant share of the population has risen by 3 percentage points since the question was last asked in 2015.
The erroneous trend is even more pronounced when it comes to Muslims; since 2016 the average guess for the share of Muslims in Australia has jumped from 10 per cent to 17 per cent.
Ipsos researchers have noticed that public perceptions are often most inaccurate on topics that are being widely discussed in the media, and on issues that are of concern to us.
The tendency for Australians to overestimate our Muslim population is a classic example.
Another case in point is renewable energy and the response to climate change, a policy issue that has plagued both major parties.
This year’s Perils of Perception survey asked respondents what share of energy consumed in Australia comes from renewable sources, such as wind and solar.
The average guess was 21 per cent, more than double the actual figure of 9 per cent.
In other words, voters have the impression that Australia is doing more to reduce greenhouse gas emission than we actually are.
Also, Australians underestimate the level of temperature change over the past two decades. The typical respondents said nine of the past 18 years were among the hottest on record globally when in reality it is 17.
Economic management is always a core issue at federal elections. But we’re wildly wrong on one of the most basic economic indicators: unemployment.
People think that 23 per cent of working age Australians are unemployed and looking for work when the actual figure is just 5 percent.
We also overestimate the scale of another important economic challenge: the ageing of the population.
When Australians were asked what proportion of the population is aged 65 and over, the average guess was at 37 per cent. That’s a mammoth 23 per cent more than the actual proportion of around 14 per cent. When respondents were asked what share of the population will be aged 65 years or older by 2050 the average guess was 51 per cent, more than double the actually figure projected by the World Bank.
When it comes to gauging our economic place in the world, Australians are too pessimistic; the average guess is that Australia has the 30th largest economy by GDP when in reality the World Bank ranks us 13th (when measured in US dollars).
Why are we so wrong, so often?
We are often exposed to being misled by those around us, be it family members, friends, the media or politicians. But the cause of our collective misconceptions runs much deeper than the “fake-news effect”.
Our own internal biases are crucial. The Perils of Perception survey shows there is a systematic pattern to our errors. People the world over tend to think things are worse than they really are.
Previous Ipsos surveys have shown Australians wrongly think the homicide rate is unchanged or rising even though it has been in decline for some years. We incorrectly assume deaths due to terrorism are on the rise and that the prevalence of diabetes is worse than it actually is. We overrate negatives and underrate positives and often assume the world is a more frightening and dysfunctional place than it really is.
But there is some good news. Despite our shortcomings, Australian voters are relatively well informed by international standards.
Each year Ipsos uses the Perils of Perception survey to produce a “Misperceptions Index”, which ranks nations according to how close public perceptions are to reality.
This year Australia was ranked the ninth “most accurate” country out of the 37 included in the survey.
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/the-uncomfortable-truth-about-voters-perception-versus-reality-20181228-p50olu.html?fbclid=IwAR05WSGpwbOvL2OvMEbkGeCZ6-EyeVAui0P2qJc3obaHp95yFOmG6y-VAfg
Hmmmmmm.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
We hear a lot about how fed up Australians are with their politicians.There’s a swag of research showing the public’s satisfaction with our representatives, and even our democracy, is in decline.
But there’s an uncomfortable truth about voters too.
On the whole, we’re poorly informed about our biggest national challenges and hottest political debates.
….
Certainly there’s some justification for us to be fed up with our politicians.
But the news media should accept their share of the blame as well.
How come we never hear about that?
Bent over backwards for decades to support Murdoch. Not sure why. I don’t think it has been beneficial to us.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-30/australia-nearly-had-an-airship-service-to-london-until-tragedy/10630846
Must admit I’ve never heard of the R101 crash
sarahs mum said:
The survey questions on migration showed Australians vastly overestimate the proportion of the population born overseas. The average respondent guessed the share was 41 per cent, when the actual figure is 29 per cent.
Hmm, this sort of figure shows two Australias. Melbourne and Sydney both have populations born overseas at around the 37% mark. As the majority of news reports in Oz come out of these two cities it is perhaps not surprising that the 41% figure is bandied about by the respondents of the survey. In fact it would be very interesting to see the breakdown of where the respondents to the survey live.
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-30/australia-nearly-had-an-airship-service-to-london-until-tragedy/10630846Must admit I’ve never heard of the R101 crash
Also a bit surprised to learn that the Hindenburg was only the fifth worst airship disaster in terms of deaths.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
We hear a lot about how fed up Australians are with their politicians.There’s a swag of research showing the public’s satisfaction with our representatives, and even our democracy, is in decline.
But there’s an uncomfortable truth about voters too.
On the whole, we’re poorly informed about our biggest national challenges and hottest political debates.
….
Certainly there’s some justification for us to be fed up with our politicians.
But the news media should accept their share of the blame as well.
How come we never hear about that?
I wonder why? ;)
dv said:
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-30/australia-nearly-had-an-airship-service-to-london-until-tragedy/10630846Must admit I’ve never heard of the R101 crash
Also a bit surprised to learn that the Hindenburg was only the fifth worst airship disaster in terms of deaths.
Well they had a habit of being accident prone.
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-30/australia-nearly-had-an-airship-service-to-london-until-tragedy/10630846Must admit I’ve never heard of the R101 crash
I just read that story. Fascinating! I’d not heard of it either.
Divine Angel said:
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-30/australia-nearly-had-an-airship-service-to-london-until-tragedy/10630846Must admit I’ve never heard of the R101 crash
I just read that story. Fascinating! I’d not heard of it either.
being a pom you heard about this as much as the Hindenburg.
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
I mean 40% of Dicksonites presumably like him enough for them to vote for him even though he is by most accounts a bit of an arsehole. Maybe he is the perfect representative for that lot who might well be arseholes themselves. Seemingly democracy is working as it should AFAICT. I am very uneasy about language that divides people up into a simplistic nonsense of ‘us’ and ‘them’ which is very divisive and not very helpful when it comes to running a country that is a lot more cosmopolitan and tolerant than people on both the far left and the far right seem to think it is.
(shrugs)
Social polling indicates they are way off base when it comes to the Australian population. The Abbott wing is much more conservative on social and racial issues than the general population. They were able to paper over this with Turnbull as PM but the party is over now. The ALP could end up with 100 seats.
But Murdoch!
How do we assess Dickson, bunch of dickhead homophobes for voting for Abbott, or is that electorates highest vote for gay marriage a typo. How about the majority of electorates that voted against gay marriage being Labor?
Or in America, those electorates that voted for Obama suddenly turned racist redneck when they voted for Trump?
AwesomeO said:
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
I mean 40% of Dicksonites presumably like him enough for them to vote for him even though he is by most accounts a bit of an arsehole. Maybe he is the perfect representative for that lot who might well be arseholes themselves. Seemingly democracy is working as it should AFAICT. I am very uneasy about language that divides people up into a simplistic nonsense of ‘us’ and ‘them’ which is very divisive and not very helpful when it comes to running a country that is a lot more cosmopolitan and tolerant than people on both the far left and the far right seem to think it is.
(shrugs)
Social polling indicates they are way off base when it comes to the Australian population. The Abbott wing is much more conservative on social and racial issues than the general population. They were able to paper over this with Turnbull as PM but the party is over now. The ALP could end up with 100 seats.But Murdoch!
How do we assess Dickson, bunch of dickhead homophobes for voting for Abbott, or is that electorates highest vote for gay marriage a typo. How about the majority of electorates that voted against gay marriage being Labor?
Or in America, those electorates that voted for Obama suddenly turned racist redneck when they voted for Trump?
Warringah
And another Sunday’s SBS Nazis, next Sunday at home! Hopefully.
buffy said:
Awesome about? Looks like the episode of Pope last night was the fourth of six and the next one (next week) is about the wartime popes. Apparently they are trying to tie various things together, but I did get a bit lost when we suddenly jumped to Francis last night.
Tonight there is a Maigret on ABC. It’s a repeat, but I think I can survive that with no trouble.
Curve, Buffy posted this earlier :)
sibeen said:
buffy said:Awesome about? Looks like the episode of Pope last night was the fourth of six and the next one (next week) is about the wartime popes. Apparently they are trying to tie various things together, but I did get a bit lost when we suddenly jumped to Francis last night.
Tonight there is a Maigret on ABC. It’s a repeat, but I think I can survive that with no trouble.
Curve, Buffy posted this earlier :)
Ahh cheers. Been getting involved in Panzer General, fourth attempt at operation Cobra. And yes, Buffy that makes sense, it was a pretty big ommission otherwise.
AwesomeO said:
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
I mean 40% of Dicksonites presumably like him enough for them to vote for him even though he is by most accounts a bit of an arsehole. Maybe he is the perfect representative for that lot who might well be arseholes themselves. Seemingly democracy is working as it should AFAICT. I am very uneasy about language that divides people up into a simplistic nonsense of ‘us’ and ‘them’ which is very divisive and not very helpful when it comes to running a country that is a lot more cosmopolitan and tolerant than people on both the far left and the far right seem to think it is.
(shrugs)
Social polling indicates they are way off base when it comes to the Australian population. The Abbott wing is much more conservative on social and racial issues than the general population. They were able to paper over this with Turnbull as PM but the party is over now. The ALP could end up with 100 seats.But Murdoch!
How do we assess Dickson, bunch of dickhead homophobes for voting for Abbott, or is that electorates highest vote for gay marriage a typo. How about the majority of electorates that voted against gay marriage being Labor?
Or in America, those electorates that voted for Obama suddenly turned racist redneck when they voted for Trump?
Why are you trying to stereotype Dickson voters like that? Reality is complex.
dv said:
AwesomeO said:
dv said:(shrugs)
Social polling indicates they are way off base when it comes to the Australian population. The Abbott wing is much more conservative on social and racial issues than the general population. They were able to paper over this with Turnbull as PM but the party is over now. The ALP could end up with 100 seats.But Murdoch!
How do we assess Dickson, bunch of dickhead homophobes for voting for Abbott, or is that electorates highest vote for gay marriage a typo. How about the majority of electorates that voted against gay marriage being Labor?
Or in America, those electorates that voted for Obama suddenly turned racist redneck when they voted for Trump?
Why are you trying to stereotype Dickson voters like that? Reality is complex.
That was my point.
Psephologist William Bowe, who runs the Pollbludger website, gives the Libs an 8% chance of winning Dickson in the upcoming Federal election.
AwesomeO said:
dv said:
AwesomeO said:But Murdoch!
How do we assess Dickson, bunch of dickhead homophobes for voting for Abbott, or is that electorates highest vote for gay marriage a typo. How about the majority of electorates that voted against gay marriage being Labor?
Or in America, those electorates that voted for Obama suddenly turned racist redneck when they voted for Trump?
Why are you trying to stereotype Dickson voters like that? Reality is complex.
That was my point.
Right but the thing is, you’re arguing against imaginary people.
I mean the reason that the Libs are doing so shithouse in the polls in their former heartlands such as Dickson is that Australians really aren’t homophobic racist climate-hating arseholes mainly. Ordinary middle Australia has moved on from that, and the conservative wing of the Liberal party hasn’t quite.
Divine Angel said:
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-30/australia-nearly-had-an-airship-service-to-london-until-tragedy/10630846Must admit I’ve never heard of the R101 crash
I just read that story. Fascinating! I’d not heard of it either.
I had heard of it. As a teenager I was fascinated by anything aviation, and I remember there being a book in the local library about airships that I borrowed and read numerous times.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-16/ssm-results-map/9152796
religion seems to have been the biggest influence on how each electorate voted.
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-30/australia-nearly-had-an-airship-service-to-london-until-tragedy/10630846Must admit I’ve never heard of the R101 crash
I just read that story. Fascinating! I’d not heard of it either.
I had heard of it. As a teenager I was fascinated by anything aviation, and I remember there being a book in the local library about airships that I borrowed and read numerous times.
Me too, I knew all about R101.
Peak Warming Man said:
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:I just read that story. Fascinating! I’d not heard of it either.
I had heard of it. As a teenager I was fascinated by anything aviation, and I remember there being a book in the local library about airships that I borrowed and read numerous times.
Me too, I knew all about R101.
You’ll probably tell us you worked on it next…
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-30/australia-nearly-had-an-airship-service-to-london-until-tragedy/10630846Must admit I’ve never heard of the R101 crash
I just read that story. Fascinating! I’d not heard of it either.
I had heard of it. As a teenager I was fascinated by anything aviation, and I remember there being a book in the local library about airships that I borrowed and read numerous times.
Tell you something else I didn’t know. The first transatlantic flight was by British pilots Brown and Alcock in 1919 in a Vickers Vimy IV. They took out the bomb bays and used that space for extra fuel storage. Took less than 16 hours to go from Newfoundland to Ireland, which was a decent clip back then. Never heard those names before. Why is Charles Lindbergh so famous?
Peak Warming Man said:
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:I just read that story. Fascinating! I’d not heard of it either.
I had heard of it. As a teenager I was fascinated by anything aviation, and I remember there being a book in the local library about airships that I borrowed and read numerous times.
Me too, I knew all about R101.
Me too. I have a big fat book about the history of airships.
dv said:
AwesomeO said:
dv said:Why are you trying to stereotype Dickson voters like that? Reality is complex.
That was my point.
Right but the thing is, you’re arguing against imaginary people.
Not at all, there are people who post on this forum that equate voting for Liberals as the act of a racist (whilst ignoring Labors actual legislative efforts) ignorant homophobe in thrall to Murdoch. As you say, truth is a bit more complex but you wouldn’t realise it from comments.
And if it true, then the homophobic act would be voting for Labor as indicated by Labor rejecting the marriage vote and the majority of electorates who voted against it being Labor.
dv said:
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:I just read that story. Fascinating! I’d not heard of it either.
I had heard of it. As a teenager I was fascinated by anything aviation, and I remember there being a book in the local library about airships that I borrowed and read numerous times.
Tell you something else I didn’t know. The first transatlantic flight was by British pilots Brown and Alcock in 1919 in a Vickers Vimy IV. They took out the bomb bays and used that space for extra fuel storage. Took less than 16 hours to go from Newfoundland to Ireland, which was a decent clip back then. Never heard those names before. Why is Charles Lindbergh so famous?
AwesomeO said:
dv said:
AwesomeO said:That was my point.
Right but the thing is, you’re arguing against imaginary people.
Not at all, there are people who post on this forum that equate voting for Liberals as the act of a racist (whilst ignoring Labors actual legislative efforts) ignorant homophobe in thrall to Murdoch. As you say, truth is a bit more complex but you wouldn’t realise it from comments.
And if it true, then the homophobic act would be voting for Labor as indicated by Labor rejecting the marriage vote and the majority of electorates who voted against it being Labor.
Well certainly there are people on the left who view things in excessively simple terms.
AwesomeO said:
dv said:
AwesomeO said:That was my point.
Right but the thing is, you’re arguing against imaginary people.
Not at all, there are people who post on this forum that equate voting for Liberals as the act of a racist (whilst ignoring Labors actual legislative efforts) ignorant homophobe in thrall to Murdoch. As you say, truth is a bit more complex but you wouldn’t realise it from comments.
And if it true, then the homophobic act would be voting for Labor as indicated by Labor rejecting the marriage vote and the majority of electorates who voted against it being Labor.
and as my link points out party affiliations had little to do with the ssm vote. religion seems to have had the biggest influence.
Um, please disregard previous post. My thumb slipped.
I think airship travel would be interesting, like a sky cruise. Better than sitting in a cramped seat imo.
dv said:
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:I just read that story. Fascinating! I’d not heard of it either.
I had heard of it. As a teenager I was fascinated by anything aviation, and I remember there being a book in the local library about airships that I borrowed and read numerous times.
Tell you something else I didn’t know. The first transatlantic flight was by British pilots Brown and Alcock in 1919 in a Vickers Vimy IV. They took out the bomb bays and used that space for extra fuel storage. Took less than 16 hours to go from Newfoundland to Ireland, which was a decent clip back then. Never heard those names before. Why is Charles Lindbergh so famous?
yeah, knew this too. pommie heritage etc, etc.
Dickson neighbours my electorate.
Divine Angel said:
Um, please disregard previous post. My thumb slipped.I think airship travel would be interesting, like a sky cruise. Better than sitting in a cramped seat imo.
Mmm, but …
it isn’t cheap because the number of passengers you can take is small compared to the size of the craft. Might be cheaper to get a first class room on a jet plane.
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
I mean 40% of Dicksonites presumably like him enough for them to vote for him even though he is by most accounts a bit of an arsehole. Maybe he is the perfect representative for that lot who might well be arseholes themselves. Seemingly democracy is working as it should AFAICT. I am very uneasy about language that divides people up into a simplistic nonsense of ‘us’ and ‘them’ which is very divisive and not very helpful when it comes to running a country that is a lot more cosmopolitan and tolerant than people on both the far left and the far right seem to think it is.
(shrugs)
Social polling indicates they are way off base when it comes to the Australian population. The Abbott wing is much more conservative on social and racial issues than the general population. They were able to paper over this with Turnbull as PM but the party is over now. The ALP could end up with 100 seats.
Remember you said the Corbyn could be PM by Christmas, not last Christmas, the Christmas before that, could be a bit more of the wish fathering the thought again.
dv said:
Why is Charles Lindbergh so famous?
first solo?
JudgeMental said:
dv said:
party_pants said:I had heard of it. As a teenager I was fascinated by anything aviation, and I remember there being a book in the local library about airships that I borrowed and read numerous times.
Tell you something else I didn’t know. The first transatlantic flight was by British pilots Brown and Alcock in 1919 in a Vickers Vimy IV. They took out the bomb bays and used that space for extra fuel storage. Took less than 16 hours to go from Newfoundland to Ireland, which was a decent clip back then. Never heard those names before. Why is Charles Lindbergh so famous?
yeah, knew this too. pommie heritage etc, etc.
Well it’s clear enough that most of y’all know more about aviation history than I.
JudgeMental said:
dv said:
party_pants said:I had heard of it. As a teenager I was fascinated by anything aviation, and I remember there being a book in the local library about airships that I borrowed and read numerous times.
Tell you something else I didn’t know. The first transatlantic flight was by British pilots Brown and Alcock in 1919 in a Vickers Vimy IV. They took out the bomb bays and used that space for extra fuel storage. Took less than 16 hours to go from Newfoundland to Ireland, which was a decent clip back then. Never heard those names before. Why is Charles Lindbergh so famous?
yeah, knew this too. pommie heritage etc, etc.
Me too, and Amy Johnson.
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Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
I mean 40% of Dicksonites presumably like him enough for them to vote for him even though he is by most accounts a bit of an arsehole. Maybe he is the perfect representative for that lot who might well be arseholes themselves. Seemingly democracy is working as it should AFAICT. I am very uneasy about language that divides people up into a simplistic nonsense of ‘us’ and ‘them’ which is very divisive and not very helpful when it comes to running a country that is a lot more cosmopolitan and tolerant than people on both the far left and the far right seem to think it is.
(shrugs)
Social polling indicates they are way off base when it comes to the Australian population. The Abbott wing is much more conservative on social and racial issues than the general population. They were able to paper over this with Turnbull as PM but the party is over now. The ALP could end up with 100 seats.Remember you said the Corbyn could be PM by Christmas, not last Christmas, the Christmas before that, could be a bit more of the wish fathering the thought again.
Well he could have been.
He could still be, any day now.
Divine Angel said:
Um, please disregard previous post. My thumb slipped.I think airship travel would be interesting, like a sky cruise. Better than sitting in a cramped seat imo.
And at the end you can alight down a flimsy gangplank 100 stories above New York. What’s not to love.
dv said:
JudgeMental said:
dv said:Tell you something else I didn’t know. The first transatlantic flight was by British pilots Brown and Alcock in 1919 in a Vickers Vimy IV. They took out the bomb bays and used that space for extra fuel storage. Took less than 16 hours to go from Newfoundland to Ireland, which was a decent clip back then. Never heard those names before. Why is Charles Lindbergh so famous?
yeah, knew this too. pommie heritage etc, etc.
Well it’s clear enough that most of y’all know more about aviation history than I.
nah, it is more growing up in england you heard about these english things more than US things
Bubblecar said:
JudgeMental said:
dv said:Tell you something else I didn’t know. The first transatlantic flight was by British pilots Brown and Alcock in 1919 in a Vickers Vimy IV. They took out the bomb bays and used that space for extra fuel storage. Took less than 16 hours to go from Newfoundland to Ireland, which was a decent clip back then. Never heard those names before. Why is Charles Lindbergh so famous?
yeah, knew this too. pommie heritage etc, etc.
Me too, and Amy Johnson.
All I know is that Amelia Airheart is still being held captive by the Japs.
dv said:
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:I just read that story. Fascinating! I’d not heard of it either.
I had heard of it. As a teenager I was fascinated by anything aviation, and I remember there being a book in the local library about airships that I borrowed and read numerous times.
Tell you something else I didn’t know. The first transatlantic flight was by British pilots Brown and Alcock in 1919 in a Vickers Vimy IV. They took out the bomb bays and used that space for extra fuel storage. Took less than 16 hours to go from Newfoundland to Ireland, which was a decent clip back then. Never heard those names before. Why is Charles Lindbergh so famous?
They were honoured in their time, the King gave them a medal and all that.
Lindbergh kind of used his fame after that to promote various causes. Also there was a lot of public sympathy for him because his son was kidnapped and murdered.
dv said:
Divine Angel said:
Um, please disregard previous post. My thumb slipped.I think airship travel would be interesting, like a sky cruise. Better than sitting in a cramped seat imo.
Mmm, but …
it isn’t cheap because the number of passengers you can take is small compared to the size of the craft. Might be cheaper to get a first class room on a jet plane.
Oh, I know. Plus cost of gas to fill the airship etc etc.
If it takes ~3 days to cross the Atlantic on an airship, what kind of effects does that have on the body eg radiation? It’s said that a flight in a plane equals a chest X-ray in terms of radiation. But then, commercial pilots don’t have noticeable health issues after a career in flying.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
JudgeMental said:yeah, knew this too. pommie heritage etc, etc.
Me too, and Amy Johnson.
All I know is that Amelia Airheart is still being held captive by the Japs.
I trust PeterT Ministries pray for her safe return.
JudgeMental said:
dv said:Why is Charles Lindbergh so famous?
first solo?
Fair.
Damn … 33 hour solo flight, must have been pretty snoozy by the time he landed.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
JudgeMental said:yeah, knew this too. pommie heritage etc, etc.
Me too, and Amy Johnson.
All I know is that Amelia Airheart is still being held captive by the Japs.
Just a false alarm.
Divine Angel said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:Me too, and Amy Johnson.
All I know is that Amelia Airheart is still being held captive by the Japs.
I trust PeterT Ministries pray for her safe return.
you have to give a donation for that to happens.
Anyway, airship travel is not practical, but very romantic.
Along with the perils of navigating the foggy Atlantic, Lindbergh’s biggest challenge during his transatlantic flight was simply staying awake. Between his pre-flight preparations and the 33.5-hour journey itself, he went some 55 hours without sleep. Lindbergh went so far as to buzz the surface of the ocean in the hope that the chilly sea spray would help keep him awake, but 24 hours into the journey, he became delirious from lack of rest. He later wrote of mirage-like “fog islands” forming in the sea below, and of seeing “vaguely outlined forms, transparent, moving, riding weightless with me in the plane.” Lindbergh even claimed the apparitions spoke to him and offered words of wisdom for his journey. The hallucinations eventually faded, and only a few hours later, the exhausted aviator landed in Paris to a crowd of more than 150,000 jubilant spectators.
55 hours without sleep, fuckola.
A doco on Mission Control on SBS tonight.
AwesomeO said:
And another Sunday’s SBS Nazis, next Sunday at home! Hopefully.
And it is quite a distressing one too.
Divine Angel said:
Anyway, airship travel is not practical, but very romantic.
Aren’t you on record as disliking cruise ships? They’re like gigantic sea-airships but with endless buffets…
Witty Rejoinder said:
Divine Angel said:
Anyway, airship travel is not practical, but very romantic.
Aren’t you on record as disliking cruise ships? They’re like gigantic sea-airships but with endless buffets…
I don’t think so Tim. I’ve been on two cruises and loved them, despite being seasick on the second one.
Divine Angel said:
Anyway, airship travel is not practical, but very romantic.
Nothing really romantic about being burnt to a crisp in the middle of the night.
Divine Angel said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Divine Angel said:
Anyway, airship travel is not practical, but very romantic.
Aren’t you on record as disliking cruise ships? They’re like gigantic sea-airships but with endless buffets…
I don’t think so Tim. I’ve been on two cruises and loved them, despite being seasick on the second one.
My bad.
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:
Anyway, airship travel is not practical, but very romantic.
Nothing really romantic about being burnt to a crisp in the middle of the night.
Oh right. Over France. There’s the romance.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Divine Angel said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Aren’t you on record as disliking cruise ships? They’re like gigantic sea-airships but with endless buffets…
I don’t think so Tim. I’ve been on two cruises and loved them, despite being seasick on the second one.
My bad.
I’m the one who can’t think of anything much worse than a sea cruise.
We et iceberg lettuce and tomato, celery with cream cheese and heated up croissants filled with Mersey Valley cheese and ham. I should wash up the plates now.
dv said:
Along with the perils of navigating the foggy Atlantic, Lindbergh’s biggest challenge during his transatlantic flight was simply staying awake. Between his pre-flight preparations and the 33.5-hour journey itself, he went some 55 hours without sleep. Lindbergh went so far as to buzz the surface of the ocean in the hope that the chilly sea spray would help keep him awake, but 24 hours into the journey, he became delirious from lack of rest. He later wrote of mirage-like “fog islands” forming in the sea below, and of seeing “vaguely outlined forms, transparent, moving, riding weightless with me in the plane.” Lindbergh even claimed the apparitions spoke to him and offered words of wisdom for his journey. The hallucinations eventually faded, and only a few hours later, the exhausted aviator landed in Paris to a crowd of more than 150,000 jubilant spectators.55 hours without sleep, fuckola.
Should have taken some meth with him.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Divine Angel said:
Anyway, airship travel is not practical, but very romantic.
Aren’t you on record as disliking cruise ships? They’re like gigantic sea-airships but with endless buffets…
The economics is different. Only the mega-mega-wealthy could afford a ride on the Hindenburg. The thing was 250 metres long and could carry 70 passengers. A cruiseliner of comparable size could accommodate 4000 passengers.
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Divine Angel said:I don’t think so Tim. I’ve been on two cruises and loved them, despite being seasick on the second one.
My bad.
I’m the one who can’t think of anything much worse than a sea cruise.
We et iceberg lettuce and tomato, celery with cream cheese and heated up croissants filled with Mersey Valley cheese and ham. I should wash up the plates now.
don’t get iceberg lettuce on cruise ships these days…
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Divine Angel said:
Anyway, airship travel is not practical, but very romantic.
Aren’t you on record as disliking cruise ships? They’re like gigantic sea-airships but with endless buffets…
The economics is different. Only the mega-mega-wealthy could afford a ride on the Hindenburg. The thing was 250 metres long and could carry 70 passengers. A cruiseliner of comparable size could accommodate 4000 passengers.
You’re such a Debbie-downer.
JudgeMental said:
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:My bad.
I’m the one who can’t think of anything much worse than a sea cruise.
We et iceberg lettuce and tomato, celery with cream cheese and heated up croissants filled with Mersey Valley cheese and ham. I should wash up the plates now.
don’t get iceberg lettuce on cruise ships these days…
That’s a great catch.
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Divine Angel said:I don’t think so Tim. I’ve been on two cruises and loved them, despite being seasick on the second one.
My bad.
I’m the one who can’t think of anything much worse than a sea cruise.
We et iceberg lettuce and tomato, celery with cream cheese and heated up croissants filled with Mersey Valley cheese and ham. I should wash up the plates now.
Yeah I think Witty is losing it, his memory is rooted.
At least he’s in chat today though.
They are building a new cruise liner, it’s for Cunard.
Peak Warming Man said:
They are building a new cruise liner, it’s for Cunard.
Ah now you’ve made me sad remembering JC is dead and I don’t mean Mary’s little boy.
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
They are building a new cruise liner, it’s for Cunard.
Ah now you’ve made me sad remembering JC is dead and I don’t mean Mary’s little boy.
+1
JudgeMental said:
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:My bad.
I’m the one who can’t think of anything much worse than a sea cruise.
We et iceberg lettuce and tomato, celery with cream cheese and heated up croissants filled with Mersey Valley cheese and ham. I should wash up the plates now.
don’t get iceberg lettuce on cruise ships these days…
Just assorted leaves.
Peak Warming Man said:
They are building a new cruise liner, it’s for Cunard.
Yes. It will be difficult.
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:
They are building a new cruise liner, it’s for Cunard.
Yes. It will be difficult.
Yes it’s a big thing, a big thing to do.
Do you think they’ll have celebrities on it?
Peak Warming Man said:
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:
They are building a new cruise liner, it’s for Cunard.
Yes. It will be difficult.
Yes it’s a big thing, a big thing to do.
Do you think they’ll have celebrities on it?
Undoubtedly
dv said:
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:I just read that story. Fascinating! I’d not heard of it either.
I had heard of it. As a teenager I was fascinated by anything aviation, and I remember there being a book in the local library about airships that I borrowed and read numerous times.
Tell you something else I didn’t know. The first transatlantic flight was by British pilots Brown and Alcock in 1919 in a Vickers Vimy IV. They took out the bomb bays and used that space for extra fuel storage. Took less than 16 hours to go from Newfoundland to Ireland, which was a decent clip back then. Never heard those names before. Why is Charles Lindbergh so famous?
USAsians are very good as selling stuff, including fibs.
I did not know Auschwitz had a brothel.
Peak Warming Man said:
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:
They are building a new cruise liner, it’s for Cunard.
Yes. It will be difficult.
Yes it’s a big thing, a big thing to do.
Do you think they’ll have celebrities on it?
If they do, they’ll have to work for Cunard.
DV probably wouldn’t get the Brown and Alcock jokes.

http://www.seatrade-cruise.com/news/news-headlines/cunard-newbuild-will-be-phenomenal-kruse-says.html
If it isn’t an ocean liner, then what is it?
An ocean hotel?
JudgeMental said:
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:My bad.
I’m the one who can’t think of anything much worse than a sea cruise.
We et iceberg lettuce and tomato, celery with cream cheese and heated up croissants filled with Mersey Valley cheese and ham. I should wash up the plates now.
don’t get iceberg lettuce on cruise ships these days…
LOL
Elyse Perlmutter-Gumbiner’s article is only slightly bigger than the Editor’s note trying to explain why it’s not fake news.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-becomes-first-president-2002-not-visit-troops-christmastime-n951846

Do not approach this man.


This is the Ocean Liner my family took to go to England via Suez in 1964 and return via Panama in 1965. We also spent 6 months touring Europe and Britain in a small Commer van towing a caravan.
Peak Warming Man said:
Elyse Perlmutter-Gumbiner’s article is only slightly bigger than the Editor’s note trying to explain why it’s not fake news.https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-becomes-first-president-2002-not-visit-troops-christmastime-n951846
ROFL
Peak Warming Man said:
Elyse Perlmutter………………
Couldn’t want for a better name, could you.
Peak Warming Man said:
DV probably wouldn’t get the Brown and Alcock jokes.
Oh I might
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Elyse Perlmutter-Gumbiner’s article is only slightly bigger than the Editor’s note trying to explain why it’s not fake news.https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-becomes-first-president-2002-not-visit-troops-christmastime-n951846
ROFL
Ah the perils of going early
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
DV probably wouldn’t get the Brown and Alcock jokes.
Oh I might
OK then.
Quizmaster-: Who was first to fly the Atlantic non stop.
Contestant-: Paul Robeson.
Quizmaster-: Close enough.
Talking about quizzes, how did that party go, party_pants?
I’ll tell you what, these Australian red seedless grapes may be somewhat smaller than the American red seedless grapes, but they’re much tastier.
And patience…now the body of the swans is coming out…
But I’ll stop for now. Counting out the squares is a bit hard on the eyes, particularly towards the end of the day. Even though I had a nap this afternoon for an hour or so.
And I want to watch Maigret shortly.
JudgeMental said:
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:My bad.
I’m the one who can’t think of anything much worse than a sea cruise.
We et iceberg lettuce and tomato, celery with cream cheese and heated up croissants filled with Mersey Valley cheese and ham. I should wash up the plates now.
don’t get iceberg lettuce on cruise ships these days…
I decided recently to use iceberg. It’s not a bad lettuce. And for some things it’s better than the looseleafs that I grow in the garden. And a mix of iceberg and looseleaf is good.
buffy said:
And patience…now the body of the swans is coming out…
But I’ll stop for now. Counting out the squares is a bit hard on the eyes, particularly towards the end of the day. Even though I had a nap this afternoon for an hour or so.
And I want to watch Maigret shortly.
I take it this is remake of the original.
buffy said:
And patience…now the body of the swans is coming out…
But I’ll stop for now. Counting out the squares is a bit hard on the eyes, particularly towards the end of the day. Even though I had a nap this afternoon for an hour or so.
And I want to watch Maigret shortly.
:)
buffy said:
JudgeMental said:
buffy said:I’m the one who can’t think of anything much worse than a sea cruise.
We et iceberg lettuce and tomato, celery with cream cheese and heated up croissants filled with Mersey Valley cheese and ham. I should wash up the plates now.
don’t get iceberg lettuce on cruise ships these days…
I decided recently to use iceberg. It’s not a bad lettuce. And for some things it’s better than the looseleafs that I grow in the garden. And a mix of iceberg and looseleaf is good.
Iceberg was all there was once, still the best.
Bubblecar said:
I’ll tell you what, these Australian red seedless grapes may be somewhat smaller than the American red seedless grapes, but they’re much tastier.
You’re lying.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
And patience…now the body of the swans is coming out…
But I’ll stop for now. Counting out the squares is a bit hard on the eyes, particularly towards the end of the day. Even though I had a nap this afternoon for an hour or so.
And I want to watch Maigret shortly.
I take it this is remake of the original.
The Rowan Atkinson ones. We did see it last year or the year before, but it will be fine for a second viewing. They are very good.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maigret_(2016_TV_series)
buffy said:
And patience…now the body of the swans is coming out…
But I’ll stop for now. Counting out the squares is a bit hard on the eyes, particularly towards the end of the day. Even though I had a nap this afternoon for an hour or so.
And I want to watch Maigret shortly.
Nice work Buffy.
All this talk of cruise ships.
Mrs S and me are on another one in Feb.
I love ‘em. Step aboard, unpack once, and it’s all someone else’s problem. I can sleep all night in a queen-sized bed, without someone coming and rousing me at 3:00 am, i don’t have any duties, i can be as active or as idle as i like, and i can have a drink at sea, if i wish.
buffy said:
JudgeMental said:
buffy said:I’m the one who can’t think of anything much worse than a sea cruise.
We et iceberg lettuce and tomato, celery with cream cheese and heated up croissants filled with Mersey Valley cheese and ham. I should wash up the plates now.
don’t get iceberg lettuce on cruise ships these days…
I decided recently to use iceberg. It’s not a bad lettuce. And for some things it’s better than the looseleafs that I grow in the garden. And a mix of iceberg and looseleaf is good.
For most things I prefer Iceberg.
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
JudgeMental said:don’t get iceberg lettuce on cruise ships these days…
I decided recently to use iceberg. It’s not a bad lettuce. And for some things it’s better than the looseleafs that I grow in the garden. And a mix of iceberg and looseleaf is good.
For most things I prefer Iceberg.
I like mayonnaise with iceberg. For the others I prefer an oil/vinegar dressing. Probably just got trained that way as a child.
I’ll be back later. I think I’ll get myself a bowl of icecream.
captain_spalding said:
All this talk of cruise ships.Mrs S and me are on another one in Feb.
I love ‘em. Step aboard, unpack once, and it’s all someone else’s problem. I can sleep all night in a queen-sized bed, without someone coming and rousing me at 3:00 am, i don’t have any duties, i can be as active or as idle as i like, and i can have a drink at sea, if i wish.
My sister is doing the Antarctic in February on a cruise ship.
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:I decided recently to use iceberg. It’s not a bad lettuce. And for some things it’s better than the looseleafs that I grow in the garden. And a mix of iceberg and looseleaf is good.
For most things I prefer Iceberg.
I like mayonnaise with iceberg. For the others I prefer an oil/vinegar dressing. Probably just got trained that way as a child.
You have to be really good with variety selection to get icebergs year round. High summer and the depths of winter it is probably easier to grow the leafy types.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
And patience…now the body of the swans is coming out…
But I’ll stop for now. Counting out the squares is a bit hard on the eyes, particularly towards the end of the day. Even though I had a nap this afternoon for an hour or so.
And I want to watch Maigret shortly.
I take it this is remake of the original.
The Rowan Atkinson ones. We did see it last year or the year before, but it will be fine for a second viewing. They are very good.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maigret_(2016_TV_series)
Possibly, but I’m not sure I approve of all these UK comedians deciding they want to be taken seriously when they grow up.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
JudgeMental said:don’t get iceberg lettuce on cruise ships these days…
I decided recently to use iceberg. It’s not a bad lettuce. And for some things it’s better than the looseleafs that I grow in the garden. And a mix of iceberg and looseleaf is good.
Iceberg was all there was once, still the best.
I find it very difficult to believe that it was a lettuce that sank the Titanic.
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:I decided recently to use iceberg. It’s not a bad lettuce. And for some things it’s better than the looseleafs that I grow in the garden. And a mix of iceberg and looseleaf is good.
Iceberg was all there was once, still the best.
I find it very difficult to believe that it was a lettuce that sank the Titanic.
Lettuce pray for all the lost souls.

Worth remembering.

PermeateFree said:
Worth remembering.
LOL
captain_spalding said:
All this talk of cruise ships.Mrs S and me are on another one in Feb.
I love ‘em. Step aboard, unpack once, and it’s all someone else’s problem. I can sleep all night in a queen-sized bed, without someone coming and rousing me at 3:00 am, i don’t have any duties, i can be as active or as idle as i like, and i can have a drink at sea, if i wish.
And with your background, you don’t get seasick.
PermeateFree said:
Worth remembering.
:)

Watching the Mission Control doco, it’s funny how the hairstyle and dress in a black and white image makes young blokes look to me old.
This should bring back memories.

PermeateFree said:
This should bring back memories.
IDGI
PermeateFree said:
captain_spalding said:
All this talk of cruise ships.Mrs S and me are on another one in Feb.
I love ‘em. Step aboard, unpack once, and it’s all someone else’s problem. I can sleep all night in a queen-sized bed, without someone coming and rousing me at 3:00 am, i don’t have any duties, i can be as active or as idle as i like, and i can have a drink at sea, if i wish.
And with your background, you don’t get seasick.
Oh, i got seasick every time i went to sea. If it was good enough for Horatio Nelson to be like that , it was good enough for me. I’d get over it pretty quick, but it still happened. Doesn’t happen on cruise ships that are 55,000, 70,000 tons and more.
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:I take it this is remake of the original.
The Rowan Atkinson ones. We did see it last year or the year before, but it will be fine for a second viewing. They are very good.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maigret_(2016_TV_series)
Possibly, but I’m not sure I approve of all these UK comedians deciding they want to be taken seriously when they grow up.
He is extremely good as Maigret.
captain_spalding said:
All this talk of cruise ships.Mrs S and me are on another one in Feb.
I love ‘em. Step aboard, unpack once, and it’s all someone else’s problem. I can sleep all night in a queen-sized bed, without someone coming and rousing me at 3:00 am, i don’t have any duties, i can be as active or as idle as i like, and i can have a drink at sea, if i wish.
I could not think of anything worse than being stuck on a ship with 1500 other people
Arts said:
captain_spalding said:
All this talk of cruise ships.Mrs S and me are on another one in Feb.
I love ‘em. Step aboard, unpack once, and it’s all someone else’s problem. I can sleep all night in a queen-sized bed, without someone coming and rousing me at 3:00 am, i don’t have any duties, i can be as active or as idle as i like, and i can have a drink at sea, if i wish.
I could not think of anything worse than being stuck on a ship with 1500 other people
+ lots and lots
captain_spalding said:
PermeateFree said:
captain_spalding said:
All this talk of cruise ships.Mrs S and me are on another one in Feb.
I love ‘em. Step aboard, unpack once, and it’s all someone else’s problem. I can sleep all night in a queen-sized bed, without someone coming and rousing me at 3:00 am, i don’t have any duties, i can be as active or as idle as i like, and i can have a drink at sea, if i wish.
And with your background, you don’t get seasick.
Oh, i got seasick every time i went to sea. If it was good enough for Horatio Nelson to be like that , it was good enough for me. I’d get over it pretty quick, but it still happened. Doesn’t happen on cruise ships that are 55,000, 70,000 tons and more.
I got a bit sea sick on a Bass strait crossing. I went to my berth and lied down on my back. Shut my eyes, Spread my legs Held my hands against my hips. Pretended I was riding a horse. I have never got sick riding a horse. Strangely..this worked really well.
Mini Me is asking the big questions tonight. Why is my name Cecily? Are you happy, mummy? Why do I get boobies when I grow up?
sibeen said:
Arts said:
captain_spalding said:
All this talk of cruise ships.Mrs S and me are on another one in Feb.
I love ‘em. Step aboard, unpack once, and it’s all someone else’s problem. I can sleep all night in a queen-sized bed, without someone coming and rousing me at 3:00 am, i don’t have any duties, i can be as active or as idle as i like, and i can have a drink at sea, if i wish.
I could not think of anything worse than being stuck on a ship with 1500 other people
+ lots and lots
Looks like there are a few of us.
buffy said:
sibeen said:
Arts said:I could not think of anything worse than being stuck on a ship with 1500 other people
+ lots and lots
Looks like there are a few of us.
bad enough on a plane for 4hrs with strangers.
Stuck on a ship with 1500 strangers is better than being stuck on the same ship with 15 strangers…
Used to do cruises on the LCMs at the Maritime School, it was an end of training assessment and pissup in one, three days up then down, pulling up onto beaches, offloading BBQ gear, doing a spot of fishing, a few lessons for those still being assessed.
Waterboarding, which in those days was skiing on an FS table being towed behind. Good times.
cruise ships also have a terrible reputation for crimes. Most companies don’t publish crime reports because it’s bad for the company.. but you can find them…
volume crimes like petty thefts are, of course, very common and, like on land, are often not followed up
sex crimes are high on the list also..
many cruise ships have international staff because of the nature of the work, and they don’t have to follow the same sorts of checks as (for example) Australia, so it is sadly more common than you think to have unqualified staff ‘run’ the kids clubs..
Sickness occurs on more voyages than not, you are told where to holiday when they dock (if you are sick you cannot leave the ship), when to holiday, the food is terrible, the staff are also partying and transient, so service isn’t as conscientious.
Arts said:
cruise ships also have a terrible reputation for crimes. Most companies don’t publish crime reports because it’s bad for the company.. but you can find them…volume crimes like petty thefts are, of course, very common and, like on land, are often not followed up
sex crimes are high on the list also..many cruise ships have international staff because of the nature of the work, and they don’t have to follow the same sorts of checks as (for example) Australia, so it is sadly more common than you think to have unqualified staff ‘run’ the kids clubs..
Sickness occurs on more voyages than not, you are told where to holiday when they dock (if you are sick you cannot leave the ship), when to holiday, the food is terrible, the staff are also partying and transient, so service isn’t as conscientious.
So what laws obtain? Those of the countries whose flag the ship sails under?
buffy said:
sibeen said:
Arts said:I could not think of anything worse than being stuck on a ship with 1500 other people
+ lots and lots
Looks like there are a few of us.
II like my holidays to be self driven.. go where I want to go and when.. eat the local food, mingle with locals.. that sort of thing.. if I want to spend time with 1500+ Australians, I can stay at home for that .. or go to Bali (Another place I don’t like)
I couldn’t drag my sprogs back to Bali with wild horses. Nor would I want to.
dv said:
Arts said:
cruise ships also have a terrible reputation for crimes. Most companies don’t publish crime reports because it’s bad for the company.. but you can find them…volume crimes like petty thefts are, of course, very common and, like on land, are often not followed up
sex crimes are high on the list also..many cruise ships have international staff because of the nature of the work, and they don’t have to follow the same sorts of checks as (for example) Australia, so it is sadly more common than you think to have unqualified staff ‘run’ the kids clubs..
Sickness occurs on more voyages than not, you are told where to holiday when they dock (if you are sick you cannot leave the ship), when to holiday, the food is terrible, the staff are also partying and transient, so service isn’t as conscientious.
So what laws obtain? Those of the countries whose flag the ship sails under?
yep, the flag state, when in international waters… the country of location less than 12km off shore (I think or miles or nm)
but in the case where the lady was found murdered in her cabin, the body was moved, the room was cleaned up by the staff, they allowed some people (possibly the offenders) to enter the room to ‘retrieve’ their stuff… so even when they docked… there was nothing for the police to work with. Apparently having crime scene tape everywhere is bad for business…
There is an interesting book called 90% of everything about the economics and crews of container ships, it’s a jungle out there. Crews underpaid, no jurisdiction on crimes, getting ripped off at ports if they are allowed to get off, or could be bothered in the industrial jungle of a container port.
Arts said:
cruise ships also have a terrible reputation for crimes. Most companies don’t publish crime reports because it’s bad for the company.. but you can find them…volume crimes like petty thefts are, of course, very common and, like on land, are often not followed up
sex crimes are high on the list also..many cruise ships have international staff because of the nature of the work, and they don’t have to follow the same sorts of checks as (for example) Australia, so it is sadly more common than you think to have unqualified staff ‘run’ the kids clubs..
Sickness occurs on more voyages than not, you are told where to holiday when they dock (if you are sick you cannot leave the ship), when to holiday, the food is terrible, the staff are also partying and transient, so service isn’t as conscientious.
And bed bugs.
AwesomeO said:
There is an interesting book called 90% of everything about the economics and crews of container ships, it’s a jungle out there. Crews underpaid, no jurisdiction on crimes, getting ripped off at ports if they are allowed to get off, or could be bothered in the industrial jungle of a container port.
there is always a flag state for crimes, but many companies use backward arse countries to be the flag state because it’s cheaper.. then, of course, when shit goes down, nothing can happen.. or the red tape is huge…
sibeen said:
I couldn’t drag my sprogs back to Bali with wild horses. Nor would I want to.
ah why?
Arts said:
dv said:
Arts said:
cruise ships also have a terrible reputation for crimes. Most companies don’t publish crime reports because it’s bad for the company.. but you can find them…volume crimes like petty thefts are, of course, very common and, like on land, are often not followed up
sex crimes are high on the list also..many cruise ships have international staff because of the nature of the work, and they don’t have to follow the same sorts of checks as (for example) Australia, so it is sadly more common than you think to have unqualified staff ‘run’ the kids clubs..
Sickness occurs on more voyages than not, you are told where to holiday when they dock (if you are sick you cannot leave the ship), when to holiday, the food is terrible, the staff are also partying and transient, so service isn’t as conscientious.
So what laws obtain? Those of the countries whose flag the ship sails under?
yep, the flag state, when in international waters… the country of location less than 12km off shore (I think or miles or nm)
but in the case where the lady was found murdered in her cabin, the body was moved, the room was cleaned up by the staff, they allowed some people (possibly the offenders) to enter the room to ‘retrieve’ their stuff… so even when they docked… there was nothing for the police to work with. Apparently having crime scene tape everywhere is bad for business…
I remember reading about that one because I have a patient of the same name.
Arts said:
AwesomeO said:
There is an interesting book called 90% of everything about the economics and crews of container ships, it’s a jungle out there. Crews underpaid, no jurisdiction on crimes, getting ripped off at ports if they are allowed to get off, or could be bothered in the industrial jungle of a container port.
there is always a flag state for crimes, but many companies use backward arse countries to be the flag state because it’s cheaper.. then, of course, when shit goes down, nothing can happen.. or the red tape is huge…
More complicated than that as well, captains get changed from ship to ship, ships change ownership whilst still at sea, crew is employed by companies and not the ship owners, contracters basically with all that risk. Who ya gonna call?
dv said:
sibeen said:
I couldn’t drag my sprogs back to Bali with wild horses. Nor would I want to.
ah why?
We spent last christmas there. They didn’t enjoy it and both got quite ill. Also being blond 14 and 16 year olds is quite uncomfortable with the amount of unwanted attention they receive.
dv said:
sibeen said:
I couldn’t drag my sprogs back to Bali with wild horses. Nor would I want to.
ah why?
the wild horses don’t want to go near it either.
Returning briefly to the topic of Dutton being in denial:
The Home Affairs Minister said the party had become “unrecognisable” under the former prime minister and Liberal supporters had “switched off”.
You were literally in touch of victory under Turnbull. It was 49-51. The major drag on support for the Coalition was the antics of the Abbott-Dutton wing, and now you’re at 45-55, possibly finished as a party.
He also took aim at the Turnbull Government’s approach to energy policy.“Energy policy had effectively become the ‘greatest moral challenge of our time’ and version after version just didn’t work,” Mr Dutton said.
Nah, the ALP’s emission policy worked fine: it reduced emissions and had no negative impact on living standards or the economy. And Turnbull’s NEG, though not perfect, was workable.
The only thing that didn’t “work” about it is that you opposed it. If you’d just sucked it up and signed on the NEG you’d have a chance, but instead this time next year you’ll be a retired policeman with few friends.
And its a stinking s#!t hole. Emphasis on the stinking…
On the top of an office block
Sits a man of business, a man of means
He’s got intrays and ashtrays
He is up to his neck in computers and tragedy queens
Undermining his overdraft with lunches with the president
He got indecision and indigestion
And he wonders where the last ten million went
But what do I get when I say to his face?
Let me take you to a better place
Wild horses wouldn’t drag me there
Wild horses wouldn’t make me care
I know where I belong
And I’ve been here too long
On the side of a mountain lives a man of nature, a man of peace
He got no food and no money
And he’s waiting for his merciful release
Works his fingers to the bone
Just to make it through the winter snows
He’s got nothing to do and no one to do it to
And he wonders where the buffalo goes
But what do I get when I say to his face?
Let me take you to a better place
Wild horses wouldn’t drag me there
Wild horses wouldn’t make me care
I know where I belong
And I’ve been here too long
dv said:
Returning briefly to the topic of Dutton being in denial:The Home Affairs Minister said the party had become “unrecognisable” under the former prime minister and Liberal supporters had “switched off”.You were literally in touch of victory under Turnbull. It was 49-51. The major drag on support for the Coalition was the antics of the Abbott-Dutton wing, and now you’re at 45-55, possibly finished as a party.
He also took aim at the Turnbull Government’s approach to energy policy.“Energy policy had effectively become the ‘greatest moral challenge of our time’ and version after version just didn’t work,” Mr Dutton said.
Nah, the ALP’s emission policy worked fine: it reduced emissions and had no negative impact on living standards or the economy. And Turnbull’s NEG, though not perfect, was workable.
The only thing that didn’t “work” about it is that you opposed it. If you’d just sucked it up and signed on the NEG you’d have a chance, but instead this time next year you’ll be a retired policeman with few friends.
Not sure that he actually lurks in here.
Next year, when unemployed and passing his time “googling” himself. He will see it…
dv said:
Returning briefly to the topic of Dutton being in denial:The Home Affairs Minister said the party had become “unrecognisable” under the former prime minister and Liberal supporters had “switched off”.You were literally in touch of victory under Turnbull. It was 49-51. The major drag on support for the Coalition was the antics of the Abbott-Dutton wing, and now you’re at 45-55, possibly finished as a party.
He also took aim at the Turnbull Government’s approach to energy policy.“Energy policy had effectively become the ‘greatest moral challenge of our time’ and version after version just didn’t work,” Mr Dutton said.
Nah, the ALP’s emission policy worked fine: it reduced emissions and had no negative impact on living standards or the economy. And Turnbull’s NEG, though not perfect, was workable.
The only thing that didn’t “work” about it is that you opposed it. If you’d just sucked it up and signed on the NEG you’d have a chance, but instead this time next year you’ll be a retired policeman with few friends.
the level of self delusion in that faction of politics is astounding.
But yes, Dutton is remarkably deluded, but it presumably has something to do with the bubble he inhabits. He’s on record as saying those sections of the press that are critical of him “are dead to me”.
How was that party, party_pants? If you’ve already reported on it, I missed it.
Bubblecar said:
How was that party, party_pants? If you’ve already reported on it, I missed it.
Yes, how hard were the quiz questions?
Looks like P Dutt is trying to prove his ‘loyalty’ to someone.
I’m looking in your direction, Tony Abbott…
Bubblecar said:
How was that party, party_pants? If you’ve already reported on it, I missed it.
It was as expected. Unnecessarily hectic and still ran more than an hour over schedule. Didn’t get home till after midnight. Didn’t sleep till well after 2am because I’d had way too much coffee.
Slow today today. made some chess pieces. Had some friends over to watch the Scorcher play cricket. That went as expected too :(
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
How was that party, party_pants? If you’ve already reported on it, I missed it.
It was as expected. Unnecessarily hectic and still ran more than an hour over schedule. Didn’t get home till after midnight. Didn’t sleep till well after 2am because I’d had way too much coffee.
Slow today today. made some chess pieces. Had some friends over to watch the Scorcher play cricket. That went as expected too :(
How many chess pieces do you still need to make?
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
How was that party, party_pants? If you’ve already reported on it, I missed it.
It was as expected. Unnecessarily hectic and still ran more than an hour over schedule. Didn’t get home till after midnight. Didn’t sleep till well after 2am because I’d had way too much coffee.
Slow today today. made some chess pieces. Had some friends over to watch the Scorcher play cricket. That went as expected too :(
How many chess pieces do you still need to make?
I haven’t started on a proper set yet. I am just doing trial pieces in various different styles to practice technique and tools. Still have yet to settle on a preferred style. A few of them ended up in the bin, but that is all part of the process.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:It was as expected. Unnecessarily hectic and still ran more than an hour over schedule. Didn’t get home till after midnight. Didn’t sleep till well after 2am because I’d had way too much coffee.
Slow today today. made some chess pieces. Had some friends over to watch the Scorcher play cricket. That went as expected too :(
How many chess pieces do you still need to make?
I haven’t started on a proper set yet. I am just doing trial pieces in various different styles to practice technique and tools. Still have yet to settle on a preferred style. A few of them ended up in the bin, but that is all part of the process.
Goodo.
wagtail hassling a butcher bird, ~sunset..
coffee then shuteyes here
transition said:
wagtail hassling a butcher bird, ~sunset..
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coffee then shuteyes here
There’s a lot of conflict in birdie land.
transition said:
wagtail hassling a butcher bird, ~sunset..
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coffee then shuteyes here
I was watching blue wrens fighting this morning. The bluest one was winning.
Nice pics again.
33 forecast for Friday. No rain this week.
sarahs mum said:
33 forecast for Friday. No rain this week.
33 on Friday here too.
Still, it’s summer :)
I’m wondering how much electricity I’m using with this air conditioner.
Lord save us. Recent tweet from PETA:

Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
33 forecast for Friday. No rain this week.33 on Friday here too.
Still, it’s summer :)
I’m wondering how much electricity I’m using with this air conditioner.
I did so badly in the heat while I was away. And now the heat is coming to get me.
Bubblecar said:
Lord save us. Recent tweet from PETA:
Saw that go past. And some other annoying stuff.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
33 forecast for Friday. No rain this week.33 on Friday here too.
Still, it’s summer :)
I’m wondering how much electricity I’m using with this air conditioner.
I did so badly in the heat while I was away. And now the heat is coming to get me.
It certainly saps the energy.
I suppose this should be a thread.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/dec/30/children-leukaemia-mel-greaves-microbes-protection-against-disease
Lovely photos, transition
sarahs mum said:
I suppose this should be a thread.https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/dec/30/children-leukaemia-mel-greaves-microbes-protection-against-disease
Yes, it’s a good read.
Bubblecar said:
Lord save us. Recent tweet from PETA:
10 yo anti-PETA rhetoric.
Next.
Rule 303 said:
Bubblecar said:
Lord save us. Recent tweet from PETA:
10 yo anti-PETA rhetoric.
Next.
Um, no. It’s a recent PETA tweet
Bubblecar said:
Rule 303 said:
Bubblecar said:
Lord save us. Recent tweet from PETA:
10 yo anti-PETA rhetoric.
Next.
Um, no. It’s a recent PETA tweet
I would have thought a person in your situation would have more sensitivity to the rhetoric of marginalisation, Car.
Rule 303 said:
Bubblecar said:
Rule 303 said:10 yo anti-PETA rhetoric.
Next.
Um, no. It’s a recent PETA tweet
I would have thought a person in your situation would have more sensitivity to the rhetoric of marginalisation, Car.
ule 303]
Bubblecar said:
Rule 303 said:10 yo anti-PETA rhetoric.
Next.
Um, no. It’s a recent PETA tweet
I would have thought a person in your situation would have more sensitivity to the rhetoric of marginalisation, Car.
PETA are nuts.
:)
Bubblecar said:
Rule 303 said:
Bubblecar said:Um, no. It’s a recent PETA tweet
I would have thought a person in your situation would have more sensitivity to the rhetoric of marginalisation, Car.
PETA are nuts.
:)
. sigh .
Your conclusion serves only to emphasise my point.
Rule 303 said:
Bubblecar said:
Rule 303 said:I would have thought a person in your situation would have more sensitivity to the rhetoric of marginalisation, Car.
PETA are nuts.
:)
. sigh .
Your conclusion serves only to emphasise my point.
I’m not sure what point you’re making.
Bubblecar said:
Rule 303 said:
Bubblecar said:PETA are nuts.
:)
. sigh .
Your conclusion serves only to emphasise my point.
I’m not sure what point you’re making.
I see that.
What did you study at Uni, Car?
Rule 303 said:
Bubblecar said:
Rule 303 said:. sigh .
Your conclusion serves only to emphasise my point.
I’m not sure what point you’re making.
I see that.
What did you study at Uni, Car?
I’ve never studied at university. I went to art school after high school, but not for long.
Bubblecar said:
Rule 303 said:
Bubblecar said:I’m not sure what point you’re making.
I see that.
What did you study at Uni, Car?
I’ve never studied at university. I went to art school after high school, but not for long.
Yeah OK. Hmmm… I think your life would be better if you understood the philosophy and process of marginalisation a little better. I believe you have suffered it, and are probably still suffering it now.
As for the issue at hand… Can you imagine being in a lake surrounded by drowning animals, and struggling to bring them to shore one-at-a-time, while your friends and family stand at the edge of the water throwing them back in? If you can imagine that, you are probably closer to PETA than you realise.
Rule 303 said:
Bubblecar said:
Rule 303 said:I see that.
What did you study at Uni, Car?
I’ve never studied at university. I went to art school after high school, but not for long.
Yeah OK. Hmmm… I think your life would be better if you understood the philosophy and process of marginalisation a little better. I believe you have suffered it, and are probably still suffering it now.
As for the issue at hand… Can you imagine being in a lake surrounded by drowning animals, and struggling to bring them to shore one-at-a-time, while your friends and family stand at the edge of the water throwing them back in? If you can imagine that, you are probably closer to PETA than you realise.
I still don’t know what point you’re making. PETA is an extremist organisation that is much resented by many of the people in the animal rights movement, partly for the ridicule they attract by their OTT positions and clueless propaganda (sea kittens, remember them?)
As for me, I don’t feel “marginalised”. I’m an odd sort of person and I accept my lot in life :)
Bubblecar said:
I still don’t know what point you’re making. PETA is an extremist organisation that is much resented by many of the people in the animal rights movement, partly for the ridicule they attract by their OTT positions and clueless propaganda (sea kittens, remember them?)As for me, I don’t feel “marginalised”. I’m an odd sort of person and I accept my lot in life :)
Describing PETA as ‘extremist’ is, in and of itself, an act of marginalisation. Saying they are resented by the animal rights movement is willfully ignorant. Focussing on the ridicule they attract leaves you open to accusations of sympathy for their detractors. I can only hope you hold a higher standard of evidence for your scientific interests.
Marginalisation is not a subjective sort of thing. It exists by evidence of its intent. whether any given individual might be capable of ‘feeling’ it or not is possibly the least reliable indicator of its existence.
Rule 303 said:
Bubblecar said:
I still don’t know what point you’re making. PETA is an extremist organisation that is much resented by many of the people in the animal rights movement, partly for the ridicule they attract by their OTT positions and clueless propaganda (sea kittens, remember them?)As for me, I don’t feel “marginalised”. I’m an odd sort of person and I accept my lot in life :)
Describing PETA as ‘extremist’ is, in and of itself, an act of marginalisation. Saying they are resented by the animal rights movement is willfully ignorant. Focussing on the ridicule they attract leaves you open to accusations of sympathy for their detractors. I can only hope you hold a higher standard of evidence for your scientific interests.
Marginalisation is not a subjective sort of thing. It exists by evidence of its intent. whether any given individual might be capable of ‘feeling’ it or not is possibly the least reliable indicator of its existence.
It’s not hard to find critics of PETA in the animal rights movement and the political left:
What PETA Has Cost the Animal Rights Movement
https://quillette.com/2018/12/28/what-peta-has-cost-the-animal-rights-movement/
Let’s make Peta history
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/oct/28/peta-women-meat
I’m Vegan, And I Hate PETA
https://www.theodysseyonline.com/im-vegan-and-hate-peta
Plenty more out there.
Bubblecar said:
But yes, Dutton is remarkably deluded, but it presumably has something to do with the bubble he inhabits. He’s on record as saying those sections of the press that are critical of him “are dead to me”.
Why worry, a few more votes lost to the LNP.
Bubblecar said:
Rule 303 said:
Bubblecar said:
I still don’t know what point you’re making. PETA is an extremist organisation that is much resented by many of the people in the animal rights movement, partly for the ridicule they attract by their OTT positions and clueless propaganda (sea kittens, remember them?)As for me, I don’t feel “marginalised”. I’m an odd sort of person and I accept my lot in life :)
Describing PETA as ‘extremist’ is, in and of itself, an act of marginalisation. Saying they are resented by the animal rights movement is willfully ignorant. Focussing on the ridicule they attract leaves you open to accusations of sympathy for their detractors. I can only hope you hold a higher standard of evidence for your scientific interests.
Marginalisation is not a subjective sort of thing. It exists by evidence of its intent. whether any given individual might be capable of ‘feeling’ it or not is possibly the least reliable indicator of its existence.
It’s not hard to find critics of PETA in the animal rights movement and the political left:
What PETA Has Cost the Animal Rights Movement
https://quillette.com/2018/12/28/what-peta-has-cost-the-animal-rights-movement/
Let’s make Peta history
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/oct/28/peta-women-meat
I’m Vegan, And I Hate PETA
https://www.theodysseyonline.com/im-vegan-and-hate-peta
Plenty more out there.
I sympathise with the values of PETA and I have even donated monies to them on more than one occasion. However, I think the organisers are fanatics and although they are passionate about the welfare of animals, they simply cannot see the wood for the trees and others with more of a business frame of mind would be able to lead the organisation far more effectively.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 13 degrees. Going for a 27.
Just had an email from our prospective buyer…no go. So we will just have to see if anyone else answers the ad.
kryten said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 13 degrees. Going for a 27.
Just had an email from our prospective buyer…no go. So we will just have to see if anyone else answers the ad.
You’re sounding more and more like your missus everyday.
Michael V said:
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This is the Ocean Liner my family took to go to England via Suez in 1964 and return via Panama in 1965. We also spent 6 months touring Europe and Britain in a small Commer van towing a caravan.
Ah. The old commer van.
PermeateFree said:
Bubblecar said:
But yes, Dutton is remarkably deluded, but it presumably has something to do with the bubble he inhabits. He’s on record as saying those sections of the press that are critical of him “are dead to me”.
Why worry, a few more votes lost to the LNP.
Does he think he’s Trump?
Morning.
After a few days of feeling like I’m coming down with something, it’s finally hit. *cough *
Mini Me woke up at 4.50am but we were able to persuade her to come to our bed for more sleep… she and Mr Mutant are still asleep.
It’s my mum’s birthday and she answered my text for the first time in a week. My sister and I are going to go over and if Mum kicks us out, we’ll have a lovely lunch on our own!
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:
Bubblecar said:
But yes, Dutton is remarkably deluded, but it presumably has something to do with the bubble he inhabits. He’s on record as saying those sections of the press that are critical of him “are dead to me”.
Why worry, a few more votes lost to the LNP.
Does he think he’s Trump?
I was reading about Fuhrer Hitler last night and could see a few similarities with Trump in their leadership styles 😳
It is just us here by ourselves. Do you think we have been ostracised?

Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:Why worry, a few more votes lost to the LNP.
Does he think he’s Trump?
I was reading about Fuhrer Hitler last night and could see a few similarities with Trump in their leadership styles 😳
That’s probably why they call themselves the right side of politics.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Returning briefly to the topic of Dutton being in denial:The Home Affairs Minister said the party had become “unrecognisable” under the former prime minister and Liberal supporters had “switched off”.You were literally in touch of victory under Turnbull. It was 49-51. The major drag on support for the Coalition was the antics of the Abbott-Dutton wing, and now you’re at 45-55, possibly finished as a party.
He also took aim at the Turnbull Government’s approach to energy policy.“Energy policy had effectively become the ‘greatest moral challenge of our time’ and version after version just didn’t work,” Mr Dutton said.
Nah, the ALP’s emission policy worked fine: it reduced emissions and had no negative impact on living standards or the economy. And Turnbull’s NEG, though not perfect, was workable.
The only thing that didn’t “work” about it is that you opposed it. If you’d just sucked it up and signed on the NEG you’d have a chance, but instead this time next year you’ll be a retired policeman with few friends.
Not sure that he actually lurks in here.
Relying on an imperfect memory here but I thought Labors emmissions policy was kyboshed by the greens who wouldn’t agree to the lower amount, I recall a quote something about the enemy of the perfect or something.
Rule 303 said:
Bubblecar said:
I still don’t know what point you’re making. PETA is an extremist organisation that is much resented by many of the people in the animal rights movement, partly for the ridicule they attract by their OTT positions and clueless propaganda (sea kittens, remember them?)As for me, I don’t feel “marginalised”. I’m an odd sort of person and I accept my lot in life :)
Describing PETA as ‘extremist’ is, in and of itself, an act of marginalisation. Saying they are resented by the animal rights movement is willfully ignorant. Focussing on the ridicule they attract leaves you open to accusations of sympathy for their detractors. I can only hope you hold a higher standard of evidence for your scientific interests.
Marginalisation is not a subjective sort of thing. It exists by evidence of its intent. whether any given individual might be capable of ‘feeling’ it or not is possibly the least reliable indicator of its existence.
Peripheral Extremities Teach Atrophy
AwesomeO said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Returning briefly to the topic of Dutton being in denial:The Home Affairs Minister said the party had become “unrecognisable” under the former prime minister and Liberal supporters had “switched off”.You were literally in touch of victory under Turnbull. It was 49-51. The major drag on support for the Coalition was the antics of the Abbott-Dutton wing, and now you’re at 45-55, possibly finished as a party.
He also took aim at the Turnbull Government’s approach to energy policy.“Energy policy had effectively become the ‘greatest moral challenge of our time’ and version after version just didn’t work,” Mr Dutton said.
Nah, the ALP’s emission policy worked fine: it reduced emissions and had no negative impact on living standards or the economy. And Turnbull’s NEG, though not perfect, was workable.
The only thing that didn’t “work” about it is that you opposed it. If you’d just sucked it up and signed on the NEG you’d have a chance, but instead this time next year you’ll be a retired policeman with few friends.
Not sure that he actually lurks in here.
Relying on an imperfect memory here but I thought Labors emmissions policy was kyboshed by the greens who wouldn’t agree to the lower amount, I recall a quote something about the enemy of the perfect or something.
Whatever happpened to intestinal fortitude?
Morning, medicating the masses again today. I’m in need of covfefe.
poikilotherm said:
Morning, medicating the masses again today. I’m in need of covfefe.
Likewise.
Except for the medicating the masses bit.
Rule 303 said:
poikilotherm said:
Morning, medicating the masses again today. I’m in need of covfefe.Likewise.
Except for the medicating the masses bit.
Bugger the masses. I’m keeping it all for myself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBF6F4Bi6Sg
Top 10 climate change myths
good watch. 22mins.
JudgeMental said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBF6F4Bi6SgTop 10 climate change myths
good watch. 22mins.
This is good. Thanks.

JudgeMental said:
https://mashable.com/2017/10/04/tia-new-zealand-police-cat/
JudgeMental said:
Haven’t heard from Fat Freddy in a loooong time.
:)
Ian said:
JudgeMental said:
Haven’t heard from Fat Freddy in a loooong time.
:)
that was my sentiments when it was posted on fb by an old forumite.
JudgeMental said:
Ian said:
JudgeMental said:
Haven’t heard from Fat Freddy in a loooong time.
:)
that was my sentiments when it was posted on fb by an old forumite.
The fabulous furry freak brothers were the paper version of Cheech and Chong?
JudgeMental said:
Ian said:
JudgeMental said:
Haven’t heard from Fat Freddy in a loooong time.
:)
that was my sentiments when it was posted on fb by an old forumite.
Face book killed the forumite show.
I’m beginning to look like Fat Freddy. It’s a worry.
Asparagus seed I collected yesterday.
a bit of a flutterbye.
You see, I have this rake. I can safely use it in a lightning storm but it has many other advantages. Most all people who have seen it have been known to say, “are you farking stark raving senseless?” or “there’s no way I could use that!”
Well as you all know, rake handles tend to die some sort of meaningless death.
In this case I liked the head so I banged a bit of PVC pipe into it about twenty years ago.
I’m still the only one who loves the invention. It is awesome to use.
Good morning PWM, I see you’re leaving the best for last in 2018.
Divine Angel said:
Good morning PWM, I see you’re leaving the best for last in 2018.
Morning DA, what’s the plan of attack for tonight?
Morning ollidee Mondays. :)
25.3C & 53% indoors
28.6C & 51% outdoors
1018 hPa and steady
Trending sunny.
Headed for 34C
No moolies to report.
We are in Hamilton. Ute is in for service. They said it would be ready at 10.30. Mr buffy will go and get it shortly. He told them that if they haven’t got it washed they can give him the token and he’ll take it over and wash it himself. They just use the commercial car wash place over the road from them. We et breakfast at a local cafe. I didn’t like their hot chocolate, it was far too sugary. I think they used those chocolate melting buds, and by the taste of it, milk chocolate ones.
“The 20-year-old Victorian man was with his partner on Saturday night at the camp site when his parked four-wheel drive rolled down an embankment and ran over him while he was sleeping.”
When your number’s up…………………
buffy said:
I think they used those chocolate melting buds, and by the taste of it, milk chocolate ones.
oh, the humanity.
only those with a classical education will get this.

Peak Warming Man said:
Divine Angel said:
Good morning PWM, I see you’re leaving the best for last in 2018.
Morning DA, what’s the plan of attack for tonight?
I’ll be asleep be 9.30.
JudgeMental said:
only those with a classical education will get this.
I got it. Shocking, I know.
I have an amazing fact about Elvis Presley.
He was vaccinated against polio, and just 21 short years later, he died. Clearly it’s a delayed vaccine injury.
Divine Angel said:
I have an amazing fact about Elvis Presley.He was vaccinated against polio, and just 21 short years later, he died. Clearly it’s a delayed vaccine injury.
I was vaccinated against polio 50 years ago. I’m a ticking time-bomb.
And he never got polio so that was a waste of time and money.
Peak Warming Man said:
“The 20-year-old Victorian man was with his partner on Saturday night at the camp site when his parked four-wheel drive rolled down an embankment and ran over him while he was sleeping.”When your number’s up…………………
You forget the handbrake.
Divine Angel said:
I have an amazing fact about Elvis Presley.He was vaccinated against polio, and just 21 short years later, he died. Clearly it’s a delayed vaccine injury.
Do we know why he was vaccinated at 21?
We visited the Elvis museum in Parkes a couple of days ago. Surprising range of stuff, which I believe was mostly acquired by Greg Wiggle.
captain_spalding said:
Divine Angel said:
I have an amazing fact about Elvis Presley.He was vaccinated against polio, and just 21 short years later, he died. Clearly it’s a delayed vaccine injury.
I was vaccinated against polio 50 years ago. I’m a ticking time-bomb.
Jeez, I never thought…
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
I have an amazing fact about Elvis Presley.He was vaccinated against polio, and just 21 short years later, he died. Clearly it’s a delayed vaccine injury.
Do we know why he was vaccinated at 21?
We visited the Elvis museum in Parkes a couple of days ago. Surprising range of stuff, which I believe was mostly acquired by Greg Wiggle.
Did Elvis ever visit Parkes?
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
I have an amazing fact about Elvis Presley.He was vaccinated against polio, and just 21 short years later, he died. Clearly it’s a delayed vaccine injury.
Do we know why he was vaccinated at 21?
We visited the Elvis museum in Parkes a couple of days ago. Surprising range of stuff, which I believe was mostly acquired by Greg Wiggle.
I live there for 5 years and never went in. TBH, I spent most weekends trying to escape the shithole.
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
I have an amazing fact about Elvis Presley.He was vaccinated against polio, and just 21 short years later, he died. Clearly it’s a delayed vaccine injury.
Do we know why he was vaccinated at 21?
We visited the Elvis museum in Parkes a couple of days ago. Surprising range of stuff, which I believe was mostly acquired by Greg Wiggle.
Did Elvis ever visit Parkes?
FIIK
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
I have an amazing fact about Elvis Presley.He was vaccinated against polio, and just 21 short years later, he died. Clearly it’s a delayed vaccine injury.
Do we know why he was vaccinated at 21?
We visited the Elvis museum in Parkes a couple of days ago. Surprising range of stuff, which I believe was mostly acquired by Greg Wiggle.
He was being shipped off by the army. I’m not sure if the army needed him to be vaxed or it was a scheme to raise awareness of vaccination, but apparently there was an 80% spike in polio vaccinations after that photo was published, according to a pro-vac fb page I read a few days ago.
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:
“The 20-year-old Victorian man was with his partner on Saturday night at the camp site when his parked four-wheel drive rolled down an embankment and ran over him while he was sleeping.”When your number’s up…………………
You forget the handbrake.
A bloke was run over and killed by an Ambulance near Frankston a couple of nights ago.
How’s Qld treating you, Rule?
Ok, it appears my timeline was wrong.
Elvis was recruited as a publicitnthing to have a polio vaccination. It was before his army days.
http://www.versiondaily.com/how-elvis-presley-popularised-polio-vaccination/
I have been discussing my brother’s life with a journalist on line. It’s okay I suppose that she couldn’t spell ‘bodhran.’ But she said she would send me a ‘copie’ of the article.
sarahs mum said:
I have been discussing my brother’s life with a journalist on line. It’s okay I suppose that she couldn’t spell ‘bodhran.’ But she said she would send me a ‘copie’ of the article.
A copie, LOL
Divine Angel said:
How’s Qld treating you, Rule?
Very well so far, thank you for asking. Obviously the weather is a lot nicer than what we’re used to down in Melbourne. I don’t know how we put up with it. People here don’t even own jumpers…
sarahs mum said:
I have been discussing my brother’s life with a journalist on line. It’s okay I suppose that she couldn’t spell ‘bodhran.’ But she said she would send me a ‘copie’ of the article.
😳
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
How’s Qld treating you, Rule?
Very well so far, thank you for asking. Obviously the weather is a lot nicer than what we’re used to down in Melbourne. I don’t know how we put up with it. People here don’t even own jumpers…
Lol you dork.
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
How’s Qld treating you, Rule?
Very well so far, thank you for asking. Obviously the weather is a lot nicer than what we’re used to down in Melbourne. I don’t know how we put up with it. People here don’t even own jumpers…
Course they do, the put them on when the temperatures get down to 25 so they can complain about how cold it is.
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
How’s Qld treating you, Rule?
Very well so far, thank you for asking. Obviously the weather is a lot nicer than what we’re used to down in Melbourne. I don’t know how we put up with it. People here don’t even own jumpers…
Lol you dork.
Heh.
We’re still hoping to catch up with you guys at some stage. We’re probably coming past Thurs / Fri.
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:Very well so far, thank you for asking. Obviously the weather is a lot nicer than what we’re used to down in Melbourne. I don’t know how we put up with it. People here don’t even own jumpers…
Lol you dork.
Heh.
We’re still hoping to catch up with you guys at some stage. We’re probably coming past Thurs / Fri.
I have an appointment Friday morning but other than that, my schedule is clear.
AwesomeO said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
How’s Qld treating you, Rule?
Very well so far, thank you for asking. Obviously the weather is a lot nicer than what we’re used to down in Melbourne. I don’t know how we put up with it. People here don’t even own jumpers…
Course they do, the put them on when the temperatures get down to 25 so they can complain about how cold it is.
When we lived near Bundaberg, there was a notion that you could identify where people came fro by their dress in ‘winter’:
Locals: Jeans/trousers, and maybe a light pullover
NT visitors: Beanies and parkas
NSW/Vic visitors: T-shirts and shorts
Tasmanians: swimming togs, and cavorting in the waves
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
I have been discussing my brother’s life with a journalist on line. It’s okay I suppose that she couldn’t spell ‘bodhran.’ But she said she would send me a ‘copie’ of the article.
A copie, LOL
Et quel est le problème avec ‘copie’? Peut-être est-elle une journaliste française.
good morning
it’s the last day of the year here.. It shall be spent doing some assignment, a little cleaning, a trip to the shops, some food prep and a few quiet drinks with friends until AEDT hits midnight and then wind down.
Flashback
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXHA_r2GTeU
Arts said:
good morningit’s the last day of the year here.. It shall be spent doing some assignment, a little cleaning, a trip to the shops, some food prep and a few quiet drinks with friends until AEDT hits midnight and then wind down.
By midnight tonight I will either be pissed and passed out, or sober and pissed off and asleep.
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
I have been discussing my brother’s life with a journalist on line. It’s okay I suppose that she couldn’t spell ‘bodhran.’ But she said she would send me a ‘copie’ of the article.
A copie, LOL
Et quel est le problème avec ‘copie’? Peut-être est-elle une journaliste française.
How did you copie with that?
Woolies is in party mode… they’re selling cob loaves which are near impossible to get any other time of the year.
Arts said:
good morningit’s the last day of the year here.. It shall be spent doing some assignment, a little cleaning, a trip to the shops, some food prep and a few quiet drinks with friends until AEDT hits midnight and then wind down.
I’m going to the specialist then having the first of this round of chemo.
Tamb said:
Arts said:
good morningit’s the last day of the year here.. It shall be spent doing some assignment, a little cleaning, a trip to the shops, some food prep and a few quiet drinks with friends until AEDT hits midnight and then wind down.
I’m going to the specialist then having the first of this round of chemo.
Look, I don’t mean to sound rude, but my night sounds a lot more fun than yours…
good luck Tamb.
sarahs mum said:
Flashbackhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXHA_r2GTeU
‘Switches off’
‘Contact’
‘Chocks away’
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:A copie, LOL
Et quel est le problème avec ‘copie’? Peut-être est-elle une journaliste française.
How did you copie with that?
with the help of mon copain.
Tamb said:
Arts said:
good morningit’s the last day of the year here.. It shall be spent doing some assignment, a little cleaning, a trip to the shops, some food prep and a few quiet drinks with friends until AEDT hits midnight and then wind down.
I’m going to the specialist then having the first of this round of chemo.
I hope it goes well for you. xxx
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
Flashbackhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXHA_r2GTeU
‘Switches off’
‘Contact’
‘Chocks away’
When my father was dying he tried to teach me how to run the ATCO. I remember putting it in gear and getting dragged all the way to the fence.
one of my friends is making cob loaf and baking the bread… I am on supplies, cheese dip and venue details… I think ‘d better get moving.. shops first so I don’t have to worry about that later.. have a great day all and if I do’t see you : Happy new year!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acxnmaVTlZA&list=RDacxnmaVTlZA&start_radio=1&t=64
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
Flashbackhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXHA_r2GTeU
‘Switches off’
‘Contact’
‘Chocks away’
When my father was dying he tried to teach me how to run the ATCO. I remember putting it in gear and getting dragged all the way to the fence.
I dunno, they sends these kids here from the training school with maybe four hours on a push mower, two hours on a Victa, and they expect us to make Atco pilots out of them. Lambs to the slaughter, that’s what it is.
Arts said:
Tamb said:
Arts said:
good morningit’s the last day of the year here.. It shall be spent doing some assignment, a little cleaning, a trip to the shops, some food prep and a few quiet drinks with friends until AEDT hits midnight and then wind down.
I’m going to the specialist then having the first of this round of chemo.
Look, I don’t mean to sound rude, but my night sounds a lot more fun than yours…
good luck Tamb.
Thanks mate.
Tamb said:
Arts said:
Tamb said:I’m going to the specialist then having the first of this round of chemo.
Look, I don’t mean to sound rude, but my night sounds a lot more fun than yours…
good luck Tamb.
Thanks mate.
Get back here asap, you hear?
Arts said:
one of my friends is making cob loaf and baking the bread… I am on supplies, cheese dip and venue details… I think ‘d better get moving.. shops first so I don’t have to worry about that later.. have a great day all and if I do’t see you : Happy new year!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acxnmaVTlZA&list=RDacxnmaVTlZA&start_radio=1&t=64
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:
Arts said:Look, I don’t mean to sound rude, but my night sounds a lot more fun than yours…
good luck Tamb.
Thanks mate.
Get back here asap, you hear?
The treatment is 7 working days so not back home until about the 8th.
And home again. I just rang the place Mum is staying at. Seems she is charming the staff. Her blood sugars are back into the normal range for the very aged and they are trying to train her to drink more fluids. This is something we have been pushing Mum and Dad for for quite a long time. I hope they succeed. Mum did drink quite a bit of water when she was here.
Mmm, Portland/Bolwarra strawberries, Jersey milk milo. Great combination for lunch. I might eat a thin sav in white bread too.
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(I don’t buy the small punnets. That’s 1kg. $14. Bargain.)
AwesomeO said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
How’s Qld treating you, Rule?
Very well so far, thank you for asking. Obviously the weather is a lot nicer than what we’re used to down in Melbourne. I don’t know how we put up with it. People here don’t even own jumpers…
Course they do, the put them on when the temperatures get down to 25 so they can complain about how cold it is.
This.
buffy said:
Mmm, Portland/Bolwarra strawberries, Jersey milk milo. Great combination for lunch. I might eat a thin sav in white bread too.
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(I don’t buy the small punnets. That’s 1kg. $14. Bargain.)
as long as they meet PS38.
FMD, 15 hours worth of work packed into 5 hours….wonder how many mistakes I made.
https://www.motor1.com/news/230128/tanker-truck-crash-lpg-fire/
poikilotherm said:
FMD, 15 hours worth of work packed into 5 hours….wonder how many mistakes I made.
Pfft, it’s not as if you can poison anyone.
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:Thanks mate.
Get back here asap, you hear?
The treatment is 7 working days so not back home until about the 8th.
Crosses fingers.
Hope it goes good for you.
:)
poikilotherm said:
FMD, 15 hours worth of work packed into 5 hours….wonder how many mistakes I made.
5.37618 × 10^15 mistakes.
JudgeMental said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBF6F4Bi6SgTop 10 climate change myths
good watch. 22mins.
Many of these myths I believe are created by the fossil fuel industry to muddy the water. The problem with them is they are difficult to prove wrong as considerably more information is required to do this, than is required in their creation, plus of course most people lack the education to dispute scientific information when purposely presented by charlatans with the intention to deceive. The damage these people have done, they should be locked up for a very long time, but of course we are far too nice to do anything like that.
transition said:
transition said:
transition said:moment ago..
best could do so far from the snake pit today, no blue breast, which’s what makes me think type variegated, though the blue on the blue-breasted wrens is very dark maybe, so dunno, the jury is still out. On the boundary here between two types
actually did get a better pictures, pays to look at them all..
glimpses of today..
transition said:
transition said:
transition said:best could do so far from the snake pit today, no blue breast, which’s what makes me think type variegated, though the blue on the blue-breasted wrens is very dark maybe, so dunno, the jury is still out. On the boundary here between two types
actually did get a better pictures, pays to look at them all..
glimpses of today..
He/she’s a pretty one.
Drinking a special festive blend. 2 x Earl Grey + 2 x English Breakfast teabags poured from my 1930s steel art deco teapot.
raises cup to Stumpy Seahorse
raises cup to sarahs mum’s brother John
Bubblecar said:
Drinking a special festive blend. 2 x Earl Grey + 2 x English Breakfast teabags poured from my 1930s steel art deco teapot.
sip sip with extended little pinky I’d expect. :)
Bubblecar said:
raises cup to Stumpy Seahorseraises cup to sarahs mum’s brother John
*Chinks
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
Drinking a special festive blend. 2 x Earl Grey + 2 x English Breakfast teabags poured from my 1930s steel art deco teapot.
sip sip with extended little pinky I’d expect. :)
Actually I’m guzzling it down :)
It’s very pleasant but I’d prefer a pint of scotch or a bucket of bubbly.
Sheesh…. check out Daryl Braithwaite now. Every girl I grew up with wanted to root his senseless.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
raises cup to Stumpy Seahorseraises cup to sarahs mum’s brother John
*Chinks
clinks all round.
Woodie said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
raises cup to Stumpy Seahorseraises cup to sarahs mum’s brother John
*Chinks
clinks all round.
Cheers Stumpy.
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:
sarahs mum said:*Chinks
clinks all round.
Cheers Stumpy.
and GeoffD and all members family and friends who have passed.
Woodie said:
Sheesh…. check out Daryl Braithwaite now. Every girl I grew up with wanted to root his senseless.
I met him when I was 15 and thought he was up himself.
sarahs mum said:
Woodie said:
Sheesh…. check out Daryl Braithwaite now. Every girl I grew up with wanted to root his senseless.
I met him when I was 15 and thought he was up himself.
He was always up himself.