Are there any cheap methods to shield wifi signals in the home ?

Externals walls and roof.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Are there any cheap methods to shield wifi signals in the home ?

Externals walls and roof.

More information please.

Block wifi to street, to neighbours, to parts of your house, or just reduce the range?

mollwollfumble said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Are there any cheap methods to shield wifi signals in the home ?

Externals walls and roof.

More information please.

Block wifi to street, to neighbours, to parts of your house, or just reduce the range?

Block wifi from street and neighbours.

Why, just password encrypt it, or if you want to go ballist, only let approved MAC numbers access it

Tau.Neutrino said:

mollwollfumble said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Are there any cheap methods to shield wifi signals in the home ?

Externals walls and roof.

More information please.

Block wifi to street, to neighbours, to parts of your house, or just reduce the range?

Block wifi from street and neighbours.

Feeling paranoid?

Probably the cheapest and easiest way- line your walls with aluminium foil…
Seriously, it would block all radio transmissions from entering or leaving the house…
Be prepared for comments about wearing tinfoil hats tho…. ;-)
From there work up to copper sheeting…

Tau.Neutrino said:

mollwollfumble said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Are there any cheap methods to shield wifi signals in the home ?

Externals walls and roof.

More information please.

Block wifi to street, to neighbours, to parts of your house, or just reduce the range?

Block wifi from street and neighbours.

Have to give it some thought. But in the meantime, I once had a complaint from my neighbour that her children were using my wifi when they were supposed to be in bed.

mollwollfumble said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

mollwollfumble said:

More information please.

Block wifi to street, to neighbours, to parts of your house, or just reduce the range?

Block wifi from street and neighbours.

Have to give it some thought. But in the meantime, I once had a complaint from my neighbour that her children were using my wifi when they were supposed to be in bed.

How did they get your password?

boppa said:

Why, just password encrypt it, or if you want to go ballist, only let approved MAC numbers access it

I want to block other peoples wifi signals from entering the house.

Tau.Neutrino said:

boppa said:

Why, just password encrypt it, or if you want to go ballist, only let approved MAC numbers access it

I want to block other peoples wifi signals from entering the house.

Faraday cage.

Tau.Neutrino said:

boppa said:

Why, just password encrypt it, or if you want to go ballist, only let approved MAC numbers access it

I want to block other peoples wifi signals from entering the house.

They are everyywhere, everywhere.

Tau.Neutrino said:

boppa said:

Why, just password encrypt it, or if you want to go ballist, only let approved MAC numbers access it

I want to block other peoples wifi signals from entering the house.

Why?

Michael V said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

boppa said:

Why, just password encrypt it, or if you want to go ballist, only let approved MAC numbers access it

I want to block other peoples wifi signals from entering the house.

Faraday cage.

Can a simple faraday cage be made of aluminum foil?

Tau.Neutrino said:

Michael V said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I want to block other peoples wifi signals from entering the house.

Faraday cage.

Can a simple faraday cage be made of aluminum foil?

you mean you haven’t tried?

Woodie said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

boppa said:

Why, just password encrypt it, or if you want to go ballist, only let approved MAC numbers access it

I want to block other peoples wifi signals from entering the house.

Why?

Too many wifi signals.

roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Michael V said:

Faraday cage.

Can a simple faraday cage be made of aluminum foil?

you mean you haven’t tried?

Not yet.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Woodie said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I want to block other peoples wifi signals from entering the house.

Why?

Too many wifi signals.

and why does that matter?

roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Woodie said:

Why?

Too many wifi signals.

and why does that matter?

It reduces the amount of RF in the home, that is all.

Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Too many wifi signals.

and why does that matter?

It reduces the amount of RF in the home, that is all.

not going to happen.

Bogsnorkler said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

and why does that matter?

It reduces the amount of RF in the home, that is all.

not going to happen.

Are your saying RF cannot be blocked ?

Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Too many wifi signals.

and why does that matter?

It reduces the amount of RF in the home, that is all.

The residual EMF from the Sun et al would probably dwarf any wifi frequencies…

Tau.Neutrino said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

It reduces the amount of RF in the home, that is all.

not going to happen.

Are your saying RF cannot be blocked ?

no.

Do you watch TV, listen to a radio or use a mobile? You are swimming in it.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/rf-microwave/metal-mesh-to-make-2-4ghz-faraday-cage-for-blewifi/

AwesomeO said:

Do you watch TV, listen to a radio or use a mobile? You are swimming in it.

Yes, I know that, I just want to block RF within the home by some sort of shielding in the walls and roof.

Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Too many wifi signals.

and why does that matter?

It reduces the amount of RF in the home, that is all.

Why do you need to reduce the amount of RF in the home?

Does around 6 to 20 watts for wifi signals sound right?

How many watts do mobile phones use?

Michael V said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

and why does that matter?

It reduces the amount of RF in the home, that is all.

Why do you need to reduce the amount of RF in the home?

it messes with you chakras and your kundalini get out of whack.

Bogsnorkler said:

Michael V said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

It reduces the amount of RF in the home, that is all.

Why do you need to reduce the amount of RF in the home?

it messes with you chakras and your kundalini get out of whack.

Kundalini wants his chakra back…

Tau.Neutrino said:

Does around 6 to 20 watts for wifi signals sound right?

How many watts do mobile phones use?

power falls of as the square of the distance. so even if it transmit at 20 watts that isn’t the power level entering your home.

Michael V said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

and why does that matter?

It reduces the amount of RF in the home, that is all.

Why do you need to reduce the amount of RF in the home?

My brother is concerned about too many wifi signals and mobile signals going through his house.

AwesomeO said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Michael V said:

Why do you need to reduce the amount of RF in the home?

it messes with you chakras and your kundalini get out of whack.

Kundalini wants his chakra back…

old forum handle was Cundalini’s hand.

Bogsnorkler said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Does around 6 to 20 watts for wifi signals sound right?

How many watts do mobile phones use?

power falls of as the square of the distance. so even if it transmit at 20 watts that isn’t the power level entering your home.

Yes.

Bogsnorkler said:

AwesomeO said:

Bogsnorkler said:

it messes with you chakras and your kundalini get out of whack.

Kundalini wants his chakra back…

old forum handle was Cundalini’s hand.

I remember that handle.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Woodie said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I want to block other peoples wifi signals from entering the house.

Why?

Too many wifi signals.

So?

Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/rf-microwave/metal-mesh-to-make-2-4ghz-faraday-cage-for-blewifi/

Thanks for that link.

Woodie said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Woodie said:

Why?

Too many wifi signals.

So?

My brother wants to eliminate the stray RF signals.

Tau.Neutrino said:

boppa said:

Why, just password encrypt it, or if you want to go ballist, only let approved MAC numbers access it

I want to block other peoples wifi signals from entering the house.

wont be able, not strong signals, whatever put up.

could aircell, overlap and tape it.

crazy waste of time.

The above link recommends

For walls and ceiling use copper sheeting for shielding.

For windows use brass mesh for shielding.

What mesh size, small?

Tau.Neutrino said:

The above link recommends

For walls and ceiling use copper sheeting for shielding.

For windows use brass mesh for shielding.

What mesh size, small?

mesh in your MWO door be a good indicator re higher frequencies

Tau.Neutrino said:

The above link recommends

For walls and ceiling use copper sheeting for shielding.

For windows use brass mesh for shielding.

What mesh size, small?

There are three materials used for flyscreens: plastic, fibreglass, and aluminium.

Aluminium is a better conductor than brass. Put aluminium flyscreens on ALL your windows and it will solve your problems. At a realistic cost and without adversely affecting the appearance of your place

transition said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

The above link recommends

For walls and ceiling use copper sheeting for shielding.

For windows use brass mesh for shielding.

What mesh size, small?

mesh in your MWO door be a good indicator re higher frequencies

don’t mean to spook you, but your neighbors could be using your MWO signal while running for radar, and other things. So beware, your MWO is conspiring with electronic eavesdroppers.

mollwollfumble said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

The above link recommends

For walls and ceiling use copper sheeting for shielding.

For windows use brass mesh for shielding.

What mesh size, small?

There are three materials used for flyscreens: plastic, fibreglass, and aluminium.

Aluminium is a better conductor than brass. Put aluminium flyscreens on ALL your windows and it will solve your problems. At a realistic cost and without adversely affecting the appearance of your place

Ok, aluminum mesh, thanks.

mollwollfumble said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

The above link recommends

For walls and ceiling use copper sheeting for shielding.

For windows use brass mesh for shielding.

What mesh size, small?

There are three materials used for flyscreens: plastic, fibreglass, and aluminium.

Aluminium is a better conductor than brass. Put aluminium flyscreens on ALL your windows and it will solve your problems. At a realistic cost and without adversely affecting the appearance of your place

wifi will go through the walls.

This video on YouTube is interesting.

What Materials Can Block WiFi Signal?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=ZclkxKwv3G8

There is a comment about waves moving around the object.

A better test would have the same materials covering the whole wifi device.

How can I block wifi signals?

https://www.instructables.com/topics/How-can-I-block-wifi-signals/

How can I block wifi signals?

How do I block off WiFi signals?
https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-block-off-WiFi-signals

How do I block off WiFi signals?

WiFi Radiation – Dangers of WiFi – See It Measured – How To Remediate WiFi Radiation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICA19oKPi5I

WiFi Radiation – Dangers of WiFi – See It Measured – How To Remediate WiFi Radiation

worrying about wifi (emr) probably contributes more to the likelihood of nasty cancers

or is it endocrine dysruption or something you’re worried about, or disturbances in your neural matrix

probably a mobile phone tower or other things more of a worry.

door seals in your MWO, seen some terrible ones of them, one door as recall was really bad, pulled it out slightly wile operating sent the meter off the scale and burnt my fingers. Got junked of course and power plug was cut off it.

Tau.Neutrino said:

WiFi Radiation – Dangers of WiFi – See It Measured – How To Remediate WiFi Radiation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICA19oKPi5I

WiFi Radiation – Dangers of WiFi – See It Measured – How To Remediate WiFi Radiation

fuck sake, get some better advice. the last two references were woeful.

Interesting bit on microwave ovens

https://www.instructables.com/topics/How-can-I-block-wifi-signals/

Nope, not quite sure where that website got it’s info from, but WiFi (a common term referring to 802.11 wireless data) lives at 2.4gHz and 5gHz. It’s most definitely microwave communications, in fact microwaves themselves are one of the worst WiFi interferes as they “broadcast” in the 2.4gHz ISM band along with WiFi (and Bluetooth, and WiMax, etc.)

half interesting read, the wiki page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi
Wi-Fi uses a large number of patents held by many different organizations. In April 2009, 14 technology companies agreed to pay CSIRO $1 billion for infringements on CSIRO patents. This led to Australia labeling Wi-Fi as an Australian invention, though this has been the subject of some controversy. CSIRO won a further $220 million settlement for Wi-Fi patent-infringements in 2012 with global firms in the United States required to pay the CSIRO licensing rights estimated to be worth an additional $1 billion in royalties. In 2016, the wireless local area network Test Bed was chosen as Australia’s contribution to the exhibition A History of the World in 100 Objects held in the National Museum of Australia.

Bogsnorkler said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

WiFi Radiation – Dangers of WiFi – See It Measured – How To Remediate WiFi Radiation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICA19oKPi5I

WiFi Radiation – Dangers of WiFi – See It Measured – How To Remediate WiFi Radiation

fuck sake, get some better advice. the last two references were woeful.

Where does one get better advice ?

I’m still looking for information….

This website conflicts with what the guy in the video is saying

https://www.arpansa.gov.au/understanding-radiation/radiation-sources/more-radiation-sources/wi-fi

Does wi-fi cause any health effects?

It is the assessment of ARPANSA and other national and international health authorities, including the World Health Organization (WHO), that there is no established scientific evidence of adverse health effects below current exposure limits.

Wi-fi devices and access points are low powered, typically 0.1 watt (100 milliwatts). A measurement study conducted by ARPANSA showed that exposure to RF EME from wi-fi in schools is much lower than the limit for public exposure specified in the ARPANSA Standard.

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the guy in the youtube video is using a Acoustimeter Microwave Detector

which next to the modem is reading 6 V per meter

Pause video to read this information: Clinical research in the BioInitiative 2012 Report shows negative biological effects from RF radiation exposure starting at about 3.4 µW/m2 (average power density). Measurements shown here are 100 to 10,000 µW/m2 (average), sitting next to the wireless modem. This is 30 to 3,000 times higher RF exposure than where biological effects start! And “peak” signal strength measurements, according to Building Biologists, are even more detrimental to one’s health than “average” measurements. Are the implications becoming obvious?

People are known to have ill effects from RF radiation at only .07 volts per meter (V/m) “peak” signal strength, or about 10 microwatts per square meter (μW/m2). This wireless modem is measuring 6.00 V/m “peak” – 85 times more than what makes some people ill! 2.5 V/m is 50 times what some scientists regard as safe!

THE BIOINITIATIVE REPORT 2012
A Rationale for Biologically-based Public Exposure Standards for Electromagnetic Fields (ELF and RF)

https://www.bioinitiative.org/

Conclusions
http://www.bioinitiative.org/conclusions/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioinitiative_Report

Bogsnorkler said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioinitiative_Report

Yes, there’s a bit of disagreement going on.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Bogsnorkler said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioinitiative_Report

Yes, there’s a bit of disagreement going on.

There will be some tension between public interest and business interests

Which tends to muddy the overall picture.

You do realise that -89dBm is considered a strong WiFi signal, don’t you? And that that corresponds to about 1pW?

Seriously, don’t bother. There’s so little power in those signals it’s really negligible.

btm said:

You do realise that -89dBm is considered a strong WiFi signal, don’t you? And that that corresponds to about 1pW?

Seriously, don’t bother. There’s so little power in those signals it’s really negligible.

Yes, I would imagine that thats the case with neighbors WIFI signals.

Still, for those that worry, it eases their worry.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Michael V said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

It reduces the amount of RF in the home, that is all.

Why do you need to reduce the amount of RF in the home?

My brother is concerned about too many wifi signals and mobile signals going through his house.

Why is he concerned about that?

Michael V said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Michael V said:

Why do you need to reduce the amount of RF in the home?

My brother is concerned about too many wifi signals and mobile signals going through his house.

Why is he concerned about that?

HAVE YOU SEEN WHAT A MICROWAVE OVEN CAN DO TO A COOKED CHOOK??????

Tau.Neutrino said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

WiFi Radiation – Dangers of WiFi – See It Measured – How To Remediate WiFi Radiation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICA19oKPi5I

WiFi Radiation – Dangers of WiFi – See It Measured – How To Remediate WiFi Radiation

fuck sake, get some better advice. the last two references were woeful.

Where does one get better advice ?

I’m still looking for information….

This website conflicts with what the guy in the video is saying

https://www.arpansa.gov.au/understanding-radiation/radiation-sources/more-radiation-sources/wi-fi

Does wi-fi cause any health effects?

It is the assessment of ARPANSA and other national and international health authorities, including the World Health Organization (WHO), that there is no established scientific evidence of adverse health effects below current exposure limits.

Wi-fi devices and access points are low powered, typically 0.1 watt (100 milliwatts). A measurement study conducted by ARPANSA showed that exposure to RF EME from wi-fi in schools is much lower than the limit for public exposure specified in the ARPANSA Standard.

===

the guy in the youtube video is using a Acoustimeter Microwave Detector

which next to the modem is reading 6 V per meter

Pause video to read this information: Clinical research in the BioInitiative 2012 Report shows negative biological effects from RF radiation exposure starting at about 3.4 µW/m2 (average power density). Measurements shown here are 100 to 10,000 µW/m2 (average), sitting next to the wireless modem. This is 30 to 3,000 times higher RF exposure than where biological effects start! And “peak” signal strength measurements, according to Building Biologists, are even more detrimental to one’s health than “average” measurements. Are the implications becoming obvious?

People are known to have ill effects from RF radiation at only .07 volts per meter (V/m) “peak” signal strength, or about 10 microwatts per square meter (μW/m2). This wireless modem is measuring 6.00 V/m “peak” – 85 times more than what makes some people ill! 2.5 V/m is 50 times what some scientists regard as safe!

THE BIOINITIATIVE REPORT 2012
A Rationale for Biologically-based Public Exposure Standards for Electromagnetic Fields (ELF and RF)

https://www.bioinitiative.org/

Conclusions
http://www.bioinitiative.org/conclusions/

ARPANSA is reliable.

Tau.Neutrino said:

btm said:

You do realise that -89dBm is considered a strong WiFi signal, don’t you? And that that corresponds to about 1pW?

Seriously, don’t bother. There’s so little power in those signals it’s really negligible.

Yes, I would imagine that thats the case with neighbors WIFI signals.

Still, for those that worry, it eases their worry.

Why doesn’t the truth ease the worry?

Michael V said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Bogsnorkler said:

fuck sake, get some better advice. the last two references were woeful.

Where does one get better advice ?

I’m still looking for information….

This website conflicts with what the guy in the video is saying

https://www.arpansa.gov.au/understanding-radiation/radiation-sources/more-radiation-sources/wi-fi

Does wi-fi cause any health effects?

It is the assessment of ARPANSA and other national and international health authorities, including the World Health Organization (WHO), that there is no established scientific evidence of adverse health effects below current exposure limits.

Wi-fi devices and access points are low powered, typically 0.1 watt (100 milliwatts). A measurement study conducted by ARPANSA showed that exposure to RF EME from wi-fi in schools is much lower than the limit for public exposure specified in the ARPANSA Standard.

===

the guy in the youtube video is using a Acoustimeter Microwave Detector

which next to the modem is reading 6 V per meter

Pause video to read this information: Clinical research in the BioInitiative 2012 Report shows negative biological effects from RF radiation exposure starting at about 3.4 µW/m2 (average power density). Measurements shown here are 100 to 10,000 µW/m2 (average), sitting next to the wireless modem. This is 30 to 3,000 times higher RF exposure than where biological effects start! And “peak” signal strength measurements, according to Building Biologists, are even more detrimental to one’s health than “average” measurements. Are the implications becoming obvious?

People are known to have ill effects from RF radiation at only .07 volts per meter (V/m) “peak” signal strength, or about 10 microwatts per square meter (μW/m2). This wireless modem is measuring 6.00 V/m “peak” – 85 times more than what makes some people ill! 2.5 V/m is 50 times what some scientists regard as safe!

THE BIOINITIATIVE REPORT 2012
A Rationale for Biologically-based Public Exposure Standards for Electromagnetic Fields (ELF and RF)

https://www.bioinitiative.org/

Conclusions
http://www.bioinitiative.org/conclusions/

ARPANSA is reliable.

Having had the pleasure (gags) of having to go through international standards associated with EM radiation no-one is reliable.

sibeen said:

Michael V said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

My brother is concerned about too many wifi signals and mobile signals going through his house.

Why is he concerned about that?

HAVE YOU SEEN WHAT A MICROWAVE OVEN CAN DO TO A COOKED CHOOK??????

Umm. Did you see my Faraday Cage suggestion earlier?

But seriously. I don’t understand the concern.

Michael V said:

sibeen said:

Michael V said:

Why is he concerned about that?

HAVE YOU SEEN WHAT A MICROWAVE OVEN CAN DO TO A COOKED CHOOK??????

Umm. Did you see my Faraday Cage suggestion earlier?

But seriously. I don’t understand the concern.

mv, if I’m screaming in capital letters you can be assured that I’m taking the piss.

sibeen said:

Michael V said:

sibeen said:

HAVE YOU SEEN WHAT A MICROWAVE OVEN CAN DO TO A COOKED CHOOK??????

Umm. Did you see my Faraday Cage suggestion earlier?

But seriously. I don’t understand the concern.

mv, if I’m screaming in capital letters you can be assured that I’m taking the piss.

Oh, I knew you were taking the piss. I should’ve shown a smiley to acknowledge that. Sorry.

I’d just like some (genuine, scientific) information that indicates that low wattage EM radiation is harmful.

>I’d just like some (genuine, scientific) information that indicates that low wattage EM radiation is harmful

like a fly to a sectarid

i’m here on wifi, bright screen in front of me, it’s really no different to a fly or moth, the attraction.

granted it hasn’t fried me, or did it.

Would this product work as claimed ?

HSF54 – EMR Shielding Paint 5L (Internal/External use)

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