Date: 12/12/2018 11:01:16
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1315195
Subject: Gender numbers across populations

It would be interesting to find out the gender numbers across populations for heterosexuals, bisexuals, homosexuals, transsexuals and asexuals, and the numbers for males and females within each group.

Any science thoughts on the topic?

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Date: 12/12/2018 11:10:29
From: Tamb
ID: 1315196
Subject: re: Gender numbers across populations

Tau.Neutrino said:

It would be interesting to find out the gender numbers across populations for heterosexuals, bisexuals, homosexuals, transsexuals and asexuals, and the numbers for males and females within each group.

Any science thoughts on the topic?

As new genders are being identified from time to time it seems to be quite difficult to set numbers at this stage.

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Date: 12/12/2018 11:18:41
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1315199
Subject: re: Gender numbers across populations

Tamb said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

It would be interesting to find out the gender numbers across populations for heterosexuals, bisexuals, homosexuals, transsexuals and asexuals, and the numbers for males and females within each group.

Any science thoughts on the topic?

As new genders are being identified from time to time it seems to be quite difficult to set numbers at this stage.


Totally agree.

The best I’ve seen in a questionnaire is:
Male
Female
Non-binary
Don’t want to say.

It’s said that the homosexual proportion is unchanged over time, but is just more visible now that it’s become political.

Miss m has two non-binary friends.

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Date: 12/12/2018 11:40:37
From: dv
ID: 1315204
Subject: re: Gender numbers across populations

This seems like a job for Bing, or Altavista.

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Date: 12/12/2018 11:49:20
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1315208
Subject: re: Gender numbers across populations

mollwollfumble said:


It’s said that the homosexual proportion is unchanged over time, but is just more visible now that it’s become political.

Surely the fact that it is legal, and more generally acceptable, would have a greater effect on its becoming more visible.

As to how the actual proportion has changed, how could we know?

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Date: 12/12/2018 11:51:54
From: transition
ID: 1315209
Subject: re: Gender numbers across populations

looks like an army of categories, nestled in an apparently naive and benign intrigue involving contrasts related.

a desire for subtle differentiation maybe, an enthusiasm all the same.

anyway, i’m for limiting the power of culture, of gender stereotypes, abuses that way.

funny thing, being born a man is to be deprived of being born a woman. And to be born a woman is to be deprived of being a man. This is probably a significant part of opposite sex, or heterosexual attraction.

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Date: 12/12/2018 12:11:58
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1315217
Subject: re: Gender numbers across populations

Tau.Neutrino said:

It would be interesting to find out the gender numbers across populations for heterosexuals, bisexuals, homosexuals, transsexuals and asexuals, and the numbers for males and females within each group.

Any science thoughts on the topic?

Scientific studies have looked at the incidence of homosexuality in species other than human. That might be a scientific starting point.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

According to Bruce Bagemihl, the animal kingdom engages in homosexual behavior with much greater sexual diversity – including homosexual, bisexual and nonreproductive sex – than the scientific community and society at large have previously been willing to accept.

Although homosexual behavior is very common in the animal world, it seems to be very uncommon that individual animals have a long-lasting predisposition to engage in such behavior to the exclusion of heterosexual activities. Thus, a homosexual orientation, if one can speak of such thing in animals, seems to be a rarity. One species in which exclusive homosexual orientation occurs, however, is that of domesticated sheep (Ovis aries). About 8% of rams (males), refuse to mate with ewes (females) but do readily mate with other rams.

Many of the animals used in laboratory-based studies of homosexuality do not appear to spontaneously exhibit these tendencies often in the wild. Such behavior is often elicited and exaggerated by the researcher during experimentation through the destruction of a portion of brain tissue, or by exposing the animal to high levels of steroid hormones prenatally.

“No species has been found in which homosexual behaviour has not been shown to exist, with the exception of species that never have sex at all, such as sea urchins and aphis. Moreover, a part of the animal kingdom is hermaphroditic, truly bisexual. For them, homosexuality is not an issue.”

An estimated one-quarter of all black swans pairings are of males. They steal nests, or form temporary threesomes with females to obtain eggs, driving away the female after she lays the eggs.

Mallards have rates of male-male sexual activity that are unusually high for birds, in some cases, as high as 19% of all pairs in a population. Moeliker of the Natural History Museum Rotterdam has observed one male mallard engage in homosexual necrophilia.

(In Australia, mallard males are infamous for inter-species sex).

Etc.

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