Date: 14/12/2018 09:46:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 1316342
Subject: Does the Integrity Commission have any integrity?

Just wondering.

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Date: 14/12/2018 11:07:37
From: Cymek
ID: 1316366
Subject: re: Does the Integrity Commission have any integrity?

roughbarked said:


Just wondering.

Aren’t commissions usually some sort of lip service to appease public outrage but don’t do very much

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Date: 14/12/2018 13:02:13
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1316409
Subject: re: Does the Integrity Commission have any integrity?

Integrity? As in “integral”, “integrand”?

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Date: 14/12/2018 13:10:32
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1316415
Subject: re: Does the Integrity Commission have any integrity?

mollwollfumble said:


Integrity? As in “integral”, “integrand”?

Actually. Which one? According to Mr google there are at least three in Australia.

“The Integrity Commission is independent and its role is to improve the standard of conduct and ethics in Tasmania’s public authorities and to enhance public confidence in them.”

“On 13 December 2018, the Australian Government announced that it will establish a Commonwealth Integrity Commission (CIC) to strengthen integrity arrangements across the federal public sector.”

Or

“The Office of the Racing Integrity Commissioner gathers information on integrity related issues regarding the Victorian Racing Industry, across the harness, greyhound and thoroughbred racing codes .”

?

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Date: 14/12/2018 13:36:33
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1316440
Subject: re: Does the Integrity Commission have any integrity?

Does “improve the standard of conduct and ethics in the public sector” mean that the allocation of staples and paper clips to public sector staff will be more rigidly controlled to ensure that they are not used for private purposes? They already have password control and central registration of all photocopies and notepads throughout the Australian public service.

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Date: 14/12/2018 13:46:16
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1316442
Subject: re: Does the Integrity Commission have any integrity?

mollwollfumble said:


Does “improve the standard of conduct and ethics in the public sector” mean that the allocation of staples and paper clips to public sector staff will be more rigidly controlled to ensure that they are not used for private purposes? They already have password control and central registration of all photocopies and notepads throughout the Australian public service.

Qld Health should have learnt a lesson a couple of years back about who needs to have their ethics scrutinised.

While all of the auditors were out in the boondocks counting the teaspoons, Joel Morheu-Barlow, Principal Finance Officer at QH’s headquarters ,was busy defrauding QH of $16.7 million, claiming that his lifestyle was funded by his ‘trust fund’ as a ‘Tahitian prince’.

None of the bigwigs could be arsed to discover that there hasn’t been a Tahitian royalty since the 1890s, and that the bloke with best claim to be ‘king’ works as a taxi driver in Papeete, as they were content to bask in the snobbish glory of having ‘Tahitian royalty’ on their staff.

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Date: 14/12/2018 13:46:25
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1316443
Subject: re: Does the Integrity Commission have any integrity?

The ABC is stridently opposed to this legislation, as expected.

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Date: 14/12/2018 13:50:05
From: Woodie
ID: 1316444
Subject: re: Does the Integrity Commission have any integrity?

mollwollfumble said:


Does “improve the standard of conduct and ethics in the public sector” mean that the allocation of staples and paper clips to public sector staff will be more rigidly controlled to ensure that they are not used for private purposes? They already have password control and central registration of all photocopies and notepads throughout the Australian public service.

Those in the office that are in charge of pens, pencils, paperclips and car parking spaces are the ones that usually run the joint.

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Date: 14/12/2018 13:52:47
From: Cymek
ID: 1316446
Subject: re: Does the Integrity Commission have any integrity?

Woodie said:


mollwollfumble said:

Does “improve the standard of conduct and ethics in the public sector” mean that the allocation of staples and paper clips to public sector staff will be more rigidly controlled to ensure that they are not used for private purposes? They already have password control and central registration of all photocopies and notepads throughout the Australian public service.

Those in the office that are in charge of pens, pencils, paperclips and car parking spaces are the ones that usually run the joint.

Control freaks most of them.
Nepotism is what annoys me the most, they reckon it doesn’t exist but just from the few places I’ve worked it certainly does

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Date: 14/12/2018 13:59:53
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1316448
Subject: re: Does the Integrity Commission have any integrity?

Woodie said:


mollwollfumble said:

Does “improve the standard of conduct and ethics in the public sector” mean that the allocation of staples and paper clips to public sector staff will be more rigidly controlled to ensure that they are not used for private purposes? They already have password control and central registration of all photocopies and notepads throughout the Australian public service.

Those in the office that are in charge of pens, pencils, paperclips and car parking spaces are the ones that usually run the joint.

Not in CSIRO. They’ve all been sacked.

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Date: 14/12/2018 14:01:17
From: party_pants
ID: 1316449
Subject: re: Does the Integrity Commission have any integrity?

mollwollfumble said:


Woodie said:

mollwollfumble said:

Does “improve the standard of conduct and ethics in the public sector” mean that the allocation of staples and paper clips to public sector staff will be more rigidly controlled to ensure that they are not used for private purposes? They already have password control and central registration of all photocopies and notepads throughout the Australian public service.

Those in the office that are in charge of pens, pencils, paperclips and car parking spaces are the ones that usually run the joint.

Not in CSIRO. They’ve all been sacked.

So the CSIRO have no pens, pencils or paperclips?

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Date: 14/12/2018 14:03:19
From: Cymek
ID: 1316450
Subject: re: Does the Integrity Commission have any integrity?

Oh I forgot coverups as well and doing nothing about incompetent and outright dishonest staff

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Date: 14/12/2018 14:15:21
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1316452
Subject: re: Does the Integrity Commission have any integrity?

party_pants said:


mollwollfumble said:

Woodie said:

Those in the office that are in charge of pens, pencils, paperclips and car parking spaces are the ones that usually run the joint.

Not in CSIRO. They’ve all been sacked.

So the CSIRO have no pens, pencils or paperclips?

Correct. It’s gone paperless. You want any of those you have to bring it from home.

If you really need a photocopy the procedure is to apply 18 months in advance, which gives finance plenty of time to cut your operation budget to near zero. Then even if you type in the correct staff number, project number and password on the photocopier (not a trivial task as IT is sure to have stuffed up at least one of them), taking more than the approved number of photocopies in a six month will see your research project cancelled.

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Date: 14/12/2018 14:28:46
From: Cymek
ID: 1316459
Subject: re: Does the Integrity Commission have any integrity?

mollwollfumble said:


party_pants said:

mollwollfumble said:

Not in CSIRO. They’ve all been sacked.

So the CSIRO have no pens, pencils or paperclips?

Correct. It’s gone paperless. You want any of those you have to bring it from home.

If you really need a photocopy the procedure is to apply 18 months in advance, which gives finance plenty of time to cut your operation budget to near zero. Then even if you type in the correct staff number, project number and password on the photocopier (not a trivial task as IT is sure to have stuffed up at least one of them), taking more than the approved number of photocopies in a six month will see your research project cancelled.

Our office is the opposite we use so much paper, probably a 150,000 pages a year

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Date: 14/12/2018 14:32:03
From: party_pants
ID: 1316460
Subject: re: Does the Integrity Commission have any integrity?

mollwollfumble said:


party_pants said:

mollwollfumble said:

Not in CSIRO. They’ve all been sacked.

So the CSIRO have no pens, pencils or paperclips?

Correct. It’s gone paperless. You want any of those you have to bring it from home.

If you really need a photocopy the procedure is to apply 18 months in advance, which gives finance plenty of time to cut your operation budget to near zero. Then even if you type in the correct staff number, project number and password on the photocopier (not a trivial task as IT is sure to have stuffed up at least one of them), taking more than the approved number of photocopies in a six month will see your research project cancelled.

scientific efficiency :)

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Date: 14/12/2018 15:11:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 1316477
Subject: re: Does the Integrity Commission have any integrity?

mollwollfumble said:


mollwollfumble said:

Integrity? As in “integral”, “integrand”?

Actually. Which one? According to Mr google there are at least three in Australia.

“The Integrity Commission is independent and its role is to improve the standard of conduct and ethics in Tasmania’s public authorities and to enhance public confidence in them.”

“On 13 December 2018, the Australian Government announced that it will establish a Commonwealth Integrity Commission (CIC) to strengthen integrity arrangements across the federal public sector.”

Or

“The Office of the Racing Integrity Commissioner gathers information on integrity related issues regarding the Victorian Racing Industry, across the harness, greyhound and thoroughbred racing codes .”

?

It is the new one.

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Date: 14/12/2018 17:44:26
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1316546
Subject: re: Does the Integrity Commission have any integrity?

roughbarked said:


mollwollfumble said:

mollwollfumble said:

Integrity? As in “integral”, “integrand”?

Actually. Which one? According to Mr google there are at least three in Australia.

“The Integrity Commission is independent and its role is to improve the standard of conduct and ethics in Tasmania’s public authorities and to enhance public confidence in them.”

“On 13 December 2018, the Australian Government announced that it will establish a Commonwealth Integrity Commission (CIC) to strengthen integrity arrangements across the federal public sector.”

Or

“The Office of the Racing Integrity Commissioner gathers information on integrity related issues regarding the Victorian Racing Industry, across the harness, greyhound and thoroughbred racing codes .”

?

It is the new one.

Why? Is it any different to the others?

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Date: 14/12/2018 17:45:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 1316549
Subject: re: Does the Integrity Commission have any integrity?

mollwollfumble said:


roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

Actually. Which one? According to Mr google there are at least three in Australia.

“The Integrity Commission is independent and its role is to improve the standard of conduct and ethics in Tasmania’s public authorities and to enhance public confidence in them.”

“On 13 December 2018, the Australian Government announced that it will establish a Commonwealth Integrity Commission (CIC) to strengthen integrity arrangements across the federal public sector.”

Or

“The Office of the Racing Integrity Commissioner gathers information on integrity related issues regarding the Victorian Racing Industry, across the harness, greyhound and thoroughbred racing codes .”

?

It is the new one.

Why? Is it any different to the others?

No transparency.

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Date: 14/12/2018 17:52:08
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1316553
Subject: re: Does the Integrity Commission have any integrity?

roughbarked said:


mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

It is the new one.

Why? Is it any different to the others?

No transparency.

Yes. That makes a difference. How is a secret investigation supposed to enhance public confidence?

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Date: 14/12/2018 17:54:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 1316555
Subject: re: Does the Integrity Commission have any integrity?

mollwollfumble said:


roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

Why? Is it any different to the others?

No transparency.

Yes. That makes a difference. How is a secret investigation supposed to enhance public confidence?

I can tell you that it won’t.

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