Date: 17/12/2018 18:11:27
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1317987
Subject: Potlatch

A potlatch is a gift-giving feast practiced by indigenous peoples of the Pacific Northwest Coast of Canada and the United States, among whom it is traditionally the primary economic system.

Dorothy Johansen describes the dynamic: “In the potlatch, the host in effect challenged a guest chieftain to exceed him in his ‘power’ to give away or to destroy goods. If the guest did not return 100 percent on the gifts received and destroy even more wealth in a bigger and better bonfire, he and his people lost face and so his ‘power’ was diminished.” Hierarchical relations within and between clans, villages, and nations, were observed and reinforced through the distribution or sometimes destruction of wealth, dance performances, and other ceremonies. The status of any given family is raised not by who has the most resources, but by who distributes the most resources. The hosts demonstrate their wealth and prominence through giving away goods.

Only rich people could host a potlatch. This was a trial by gift giving. The people who gave the most lavish gifts were the winners. Families would go into debt in order to buy gifts.

In Australia we call it Christmas.

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Date: 17/12/2018 18:17:35
From: Rule 303
ID: 1317990
Subject: re: Potlatch

I have seen a few Anthropological accounts of Potlatch. Some rather different to that one. My impression is that the current practice (or what’s left of it) is something closer to what we call ‘bring a plate’.

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Date: 17/12/2018 18:20:57
From: Rule 303
ID: 1317991
Subject: re: Potlatch

(that is, Anthrops have traced the thing the Seppoes call a ‘Potluck’ meal back to Potlatch)

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Date: 18/12/2018 23:16:39
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1318771
Subject: re: Potlatch

mollwollfumble said:

A potlatch is a gift-giving feast practiced by indigenous peoples of the Pacific Northwest Coast of Canada and the United States, among whom it is traditionally the primary economic system.

Dorothy Johansen describes the dynamic: “In the potlatch, the host in effect challenged a guest chieftain to exceed him in his ‘power’ to give away or to destroy goods. If the guest did not return 100 percent on the gifts received and destroy even more wealth in a bigger and better bonfire, he and his people lost face and so his ‘power’ was diminished.” Hierarchical relations within and between clans, villages, and nations, were observed and reinforced through the distribution or sometimes destruction of wealth, dance performances, and other ceremonies. The status of any given family is raised not by who has the most resources, but by who distributes the most resources. The hosts demonstrate their wealth and prominence through giving away goods.

Only rich people could host a potlatch. This was a trial by gift giving. The people who gave the most lavish gifts were the winners. Families would go into debt in order to buy gifts.

In Australia we call it Christmas.

I think mrs m has not wrapped 1,000 presents.

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Date: 18/12/2018 23:23:13
From: Rule 303
ID: 1318772
Subject: re: Potlatch

mollwollfumble said:


I think mrs m has not wrapped 1,000 presents.

Same.

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Date: 18/12/2018 23:27:09
From: party_pants
ID: 1318773
Subject: re: Potlatch

These days we’d just insist on a donation to charity instead.

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Date: 18/12/2018 23:30:43
From: sibeen
ID: 1318774
Subject: re: Potlatch

party_pants said:


These days we’d just insist on a donation to charity instead.

You’ll make baby jesus cry.

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Date: 18/12/2018 23:33:21
From: Arts
ID: 1318775
Subject: re: Potlatch

party_pants said:


These days we’d just insist on a donation to charity instead.

The Human Fund

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Date: 18/12/2018 23:33:43
From: party_pants
ID: 1318776
Subject: re: Potlatch

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

These days we’d just insist on a donation to charity instead.

You’ll make baby jesus cry.

Yeah, I’m a prick sometimes.

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Date: 18/12/2018 23:47:13
From: sibeen
ID: 1318777
Subject: re: Potlatch

party_pants said:


sibeen said:

party_pants said:

These days we’d just insist on a donation to charity instead.

You’ll make baby jesus cry.

Yeah, I’m a prick sometimes.

No wonder bad things happen to you.

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