Date: 1/01/2019 18:00:09
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1323845
Subject: The Australian Bird Guide

Book Review
CSIRO The Australian Bird Guide

The Australian Bird Identification facebook group loves this book so I got it for myself for Xmas.

I’m not overly impressed. It’s heavy, about 2 kg. Too heavy to carry in a rucksack or purse. It’s not pretty enough for a coffee-table book either, no phototgraphs.

Why so heavy? Partly because vagrants are given equal billing with endemics. In the case of the white wagtail, 18 images are wasted on a single vagrant. In another case, a single dead bird washed up on the shore of Phillip Island is used as an excuse for devoting three images and a full half page to that bird. There are lots of vagrants in that book. There are also many birds in there that I would class as vagrants but it doesn’t, for example if there have been only ten sightings in Australia. Do we really need 13 drawings of the NZ wandering albatross, only ever seen here on Macquarie Island.

Also, rare colourations are given equal billing is given to rare colourings as to common colourings. This takes up more space.

The 31 page introduction is too long for a field guide.

But the biggest waste of space is that nearly half the text is a description of the colours shown in the drawings. There’s no justification for such duplication.

In short, the book could be just as good at half the weight. I’m really quite tempted to scan the book in, reduce the size and print it out again as a field guide.

The best feature of “The Australian Bird Guide” is the maps. These are very much more accurate than all previous Australian Bird Guides. I have a few reservations about the maps – colours for different subspecies aren’t always easy to distinguish. The lighter colour tends not to represent ‘seldom seen here’ but rather ‘never seen here’. I have concerns over the map area being too big for some rare birds (eg. night parrot) and too small for some common birds (eg. rainbow lorikeet and sparrow). But other than those minor concerns, the maps are superb.

I would love love love to see maps for Australian bird species (and vagrants) that extend to other countries – but no Australian bird guide has that.

There are no lack of drawings, for example opening it at a random page I see 26 drawings for just three bird species. They’ve included a separate drawing for immature, juvenile or both for every single species, which is overkill. There are never less than three drawings for every species.

These are drawings rather than photographs, and this comes with some intrinsic problems. Although not as bad as many bird books, the colours are still cartoonish rather than natural.

I have red-green colourblindness, and flicking through that pages I quickly noted that the colour palette that they used is unnecessarily restricted. Browns are almost always drawn too yellowish. Natural reds may be crimson or scarlet, but are always illustrated crimson. Pale greys are often coloured too light. Blues tend to be drawn too muted. And iridescence is completely missing.

Bird calls are not well done, eg. that of the koel.

Synonyms for both scientific and common names are all missing, every single time. Not only is this an extreme annoyance to birders who use common names, it must also be an extreme annoyance to ornithologists because the introduction explains that many scientific names, particularly for honeyeaters, have changed recently. It also makes the index almost unusable. Look up “kookaburra” or “skylark” or “pied stilt” in the index and it isn’t there, you have to look up under “L” for kookaburra, “E” for skylark and “W” for pied stilt.

Another failure is the quick-find colouring along the page edges. Instead of 30 or so different markers down the page edges to find different sections, there is only one location and it only comes in two colours. Useless.

On individual minor issues I noticed:

Overall. Not bad, compared to other Australian Bird Guides.

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Date: 1/01/2019 18:28:13
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1323850
Subject: re: The Australian Bird Guide

mollwollfumble said:


Book Review
CSIRO The Australian Bird Guide

The Australian Bird Identification facebook group loves this book so I got it for myself for Xmas.

I’m not overly impressed. It’s heavy, about 2 kg. Too heavy to carry in a rucksack or purse. It’s not pretty enough for a coffee-table book either, no phototgraphs.

Why so heavy? Partly because vagrants are given equal billing with endemics. In the case of the white wagtail, 18 images are wasted on a single vagrant. In another case, a single dead bird washed up on the shore of Phillip Island is used as an excuse for devoting three images and a full half page to that bird. There are lots of vagrants in that book. There are also many birds in there that I would class as vagrants but it doesn’t, for example if there have been only ten sightings in Australia. Do we really need 13 drawings of the NZ wandering albatross, only ever seen here on Macquarie Island.

Also, rare colourations are given equal billing is given to rare colourings as to common colourings. This takes up more space.

The 31 page introduction is too long for a field guide.

But the biggest waste of space is that nearly half the text is a description of the colours shown in the drawings. There’s no justification for such duplication.

In short, the book could be just as good at half the weight. I’m really quite tempted to scan the book in, reduce the size and print it out again as a field guide.

The best feature of “The Australian Bird Guide” is the maps. These are very much more accurate than all previous Australian Bird Guides. I have a few reservations about the maps – colours for different subspecies aren’t always easy to distinguish. The lighter colour tends not to represent ‘seldom seen here’ but rather ‘never seen here’. I have concerns over the map area being too big for some rare birds (eg. night parrot) and too small for some common birds (eg. rainbow lorikeet and sparrow). But other than those minor concerns, the maps are superb.

I would love love love to see maps for Australian bird species (and vagrants) that extend to other countries – but no Australian bird guide has that.

There are no lack of drawings, for example opening it at a random page I see 26 drawings for just three bird species. They’ve included a separate drawing for immature, juvenile or both for every single species, which is overkill. There are never less than three drawings for every species.

These are drawings rather than photographs, and this comes with some intrinsic problems. Although not as bad as many bird books, the colours are still cartoonish rather than natural.

I have red-green colourblindness, and flicking through that pages I quickly noted that the colour palette that they used is unnecessarily restricted. Browns are almost always drawn too yellowish. Natural reds may be crimson or scarlet, but are always illustrated crimson. Pale greys are often coloured too light. Blues tend to be drawn too muted. And iridescence is completely missing.

Bird calls are not well done, eg. that of the koel.

Synonyms for both scientific and common names are all missing, every single time. Not only is this an extreme annoyance to birders who use common names, it must also be an extreme annoyance to ornithologists because the introduction explains that many scientific names, particularly for honeyeaters, have changed recently. It also makes the index almost unusable. Look up “kookaburra” or “skylark” or “pied stilt” in the index and it isn’t there, you have to look up under “L” for kookaburra, “E” for skylark and “W” for pied stilt.

Another failure is the quick-find colouring along the page edges. Instead of 30 or so different markers down the page edges to find different sections, there is only one location and it only comes in two colours. Useless.

On individual minor issues I noticed:

  • They incorrectly use “se” instead of “SE” throughout for South East.
  • The musk duck is drawn too high in the water and the blue-billed duck too low.
  • The Little Raven is incorrectly illustrated the same size as the Australian Raven, and similar errors elsewhere
  • The colouring and outline of the juvenile Grey Butcherbird are just plain wrong.
  • The underwing colouring of the adult letter-wing kite is shown identical to that of the black-shouldered kite.
  • Occasionally the word “vagrant” is missing from the drawings.
  • For the Herald Petrel, the pale morph is darker than the intermediate morph.
  • The whiskered tern is the wrong shade of grey – all bird guides get this wrong.
  • No mention of the orange belly on the male red-rumped parrot.
  • For the New-Holland Honeyeater there are 5 subspecies on the map but only one is illustrated.
  • The adult non-breeding Grebes are not well drawn.
  • Colourings for the Rock Dove are insufficient.
  • The guide totally misses all feral domestic duck and geese populations.

Overall. Not bad, compared to other Australian Bird Guides.

Who would want to buy a lump of shit like that? Burn em all I reckon.

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Date: 2/01/2019 11:12:49
From: transition
ID: 1323943
Subject: re: The Australian Bird Guide

stretch those legs, feet, back and wing-gear, and chill out

much better

from this morn walk

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Date: 3/01/2019 10:14:53
From: transition
ID: 1324410
Subject: re: The Australian Bird Guide

mostly I use, as quick reference, a little book less than hundred pages, which is really for lower peninsula, but fairly much covers everything here.

and there’s the big book, the readers digest complete book of australian birds, revised edition from 77 I reckon, that’s ~600 pages, sits in the small room these days, on the small coffee table alongside that has a swinging top, so some good reading there. Dated but an exceptional work.

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Date: 5/01/2019 21:54:04
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1325730
Subject: re: The Australian Bird Guide

transition said:


mostly I use, as quick reference, a little book less than hundred pages, which is really for lower peninsula, but fairly much covers everything here.

and there’s the big book, the readers digest complete book of australian birds, revised edition from 77 I reckon, that’s ~600 pages, sits in the small room these days, on the small coffee table alongside that has a swinging top, so some good reading there. Dated but an exceptional work.

Thanks. I love the Readers Digest one myself, too. Good coffee table book.

Yes, a small one for quick reference.

transition said:


stretch those legs, feet, back and wing-gear, and chill out

much better

from this morn walk

Beautiful.

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Date: 5/01/2019 22:03:16
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1325733
Subject: re: The Australian Bird Guide

I have the Readers Digest one. It is a lovely book but like many of my fine books tends to spend most of its life neglected on the bookshelves.

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Date: 6/01/2019 08:04:34
From: buffy
ID: 1325762
Subject: re: The Australian Bird Guide

We use The Slater Field Guide to Australian Birds (old edition) and Pizzey and Knight’s “The Graham Pizzey and Frank Knight Field Guide to the Birds of Australia. I have a soft spot for the Pizzey and Knight one because Graham was one of my patients. For bigger books we’ve got Cayley’s “What Bird is That?” and “Australian Parrots and Cockatoos. Paintings by Neville Cayley” which has text by J.H. Prince. Also got “Eagles Hawks and Falcons of Australia” by David Hollands. That one is photos. Also got a little spiral bound booklet called “Woodland Birds. Identification booklet for the Glenelg Hopkins area”

Personally I tend to stick to plant IDs. They don’t whizz about and disappear on you. But our main go to book would be Pizzey.

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Date: 6/01/2019 08:29:45
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1325764
Subject: re: The Australian Bird Guide

What’s this bird?

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Date: 6/01/2019 08:31:22
From: buffy
ID: 1325765
Subject: re: The Australian Bird Guide

Divine Angel said:


What’s this bird?


Brolga

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Date: 6/01/2019 08:33:18
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1325766
Subject: re: The Australian Bird Guide

Ha! I was right.

All the other dumbarses standing around just kept calling it a heron. Or “big birdie”.

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Date: 6/01/2019 08:50:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 1325770
Subject: re: The Australian Bird Guide

Divine Angel said:


What’s this bird?


Brolga

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Date: 6/01/2019 09:04:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 1325775
Subject: re: The Australian Bird Guide

I have used Gould’s what bird is that, all my life. I also have Frank T. Morris’ book on Australian birds of prey

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Date: 6/01/2019 09:08:32
From: buffy
ID: 1325777
Subject: re: The Australian Bird Guide

I just checked, but you are not far enough North for Sarus Crane, I don’t think. And anyway, the crane has red going down its neck, not just a band.

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Date: 6/01/2019 09:12:58
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1325779
Subject: re: The Australian Bird Guide

buffy said:

I just checked, but you are not far enough North for Sarus Crane, I don’t think. And anyway, the crane has red going down its neck, not just a band.

Used to be quite a number of brolgas in the swamp areas of Murarrie in Brisbane when I were lad, you do still see a few about Brisbane from time to time.

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Date: 6/01/2019 11:14:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 1325799
Subject: re: The Australian Bird Guide

Peak Warming Man said:


buffy said:

I just checked, but you are not far enough North for Sarus Crane, I don’t think. And anyway, the crane has red going down its neck, not just a band.

Used to be quite a number of brolgas in the swamp areas of Murarrie in Brisbane when I were lad, you do still see a few about Brisbane from time to time.

Brolgas come down to the rice growing areas along the lower Murrumbidgee and Murray rivers.

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Date: 6/01/2019 11:16:08
From: buffy
ID: 1325807
Subject: re: The Australian Bird Guide

roughbarked said:


Peak Warming Man said:

buffy said:

I just checked, but you are not far enough North for Sarus Crane, I don’t think. And anyway, the crane has red going down its neck, not just a band.

Used to be quite a number of brolgas in the swamp areas of Murarrie in Brisbane when I were lad, you do still see a few about Brisbane from time to time.

Brolgas come down to the rice growing areas along the lower Murrumbidgee and Murray rivers.

There are a pair of brolgas presently nesting just out of town here.

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Date: 6/01/2019 11:25:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 1325819
Subject: re: The Australian Bird Guide

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Used to be quite a number of brolgas in the swamp areas of Murarrie in Brisbane when I were lad, you do still see a few about Brisbane from time to time.

Brolgas come down to the rice growing areas along the lower Murrumbidgee and Murray rivers.

There are a pair of brolgas presently nesting just out of town here.

There you go.

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