Date: 11/01/2019 10:05:20
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1328377
Subject: Common cold?

How long does a person with a common cold (modern versions) stay infectious?

a) as long as the sore throat – 2 days
b) as long as the fatigue ~ 4 days
c) as long as the nasal problems ~ 1 to 2 weeks
d) as long as the cough ~ 2 to 4 weeks (or more)
e) forever, just with declining infectiousness.

Has there been any scientific study of infectiveness?

Has there been any recent (in the past 15 to 20 years) study of the time-dependent spread and decline of a common cold around the world?

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Date: 11/01/2019 10:35:06
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1328379
Subject: re: Common cold?

I remembered reading something about this:

https://www.nhs.uk/common-health-questions/infections/how-long-is-someone-infectious-after-a-viral-infection/

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Date: 11/01/2019 10:46:42
From: buffy
ID: 1328384
Subject: re: Common cold?

There was some research about spread of the common cold involving people living in an enclosed environment and employing or not employing hand washing. I’ll see if I can find it.

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Date: 11/01/2019 10:49:36
From: buffy
ID: 1328385
Subject: re: Common cold?

Is this any use?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3311988/

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Date: 11/01/2019 11:16:52
From: buffy
ID: 1328394
Subject: re: Common cold?

https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/201/10/1509/992720

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Date: 11/01/2019 11:18:13
From: buffy
ID: 1328395
Subject: re: Common cold?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4327893/

Enough from me now.

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Date: 11/01/2019 11:19:55
From: Cymek
ID: 1328396
Subject: re: Common cold?

I wonder if royalty look down on the common cold

Queen “We do not get the common cold peasants we get royal colds, so much more dignified, a polite little cough and that’s it”

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Date: 12/01/2019 22:49:05
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1329448
Subject: re: Common cold?

buffy said:

Is this any use?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3311988/

Limited data! Not even enough data in the literature to tell us the primary mode of transmission of the common cold! Whether by coughs and sneezes or not.

> https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/201/10/1509/992720

The flu, not the common cold, but interesting nonetheless.

> we followed up initially healthy individuals to quantify trends in viral shedding

Good work. Have to do it that way, study people in a sick environment before they get sick in order to catch the onset, and to check for contagiousness preceding symptoms.

> We followed up 1015 household contacts in 322 households. A total of 135 (13%) contacts were confirmed to have influenza virus infection. Onset is defined as the first day with 2 or more of the seven symptoms.

Good start.

> Peak molecular viral shedding for influenza A virus infection occurred on the day of onset, followed by a steady decrease in viral shedding through the following 7 days.

That settles that. The graphs confirm this, though they jog up and down a bit, and viral load on day 6 can be higher than on day 1.

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Date: 12/01/2019 22:59:07
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1329449
Subject: re: Common cold?

buffy said:


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4327893/

Enough from me now.

A meta-analysis, so not necessarily current.

> found the median incubation period to be 5·6 days (95% CI 4·8–6·3) for adenovirus, 3·2 days (95% CI 2·8–3·7) for human coronavirus

(as against 0 to 2 days for the above influenza study)

Hmm, for the latest two colds, I found that the latency period prior to the start of the sore throat could easily be measured in minutes, if not seconds.

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Date: 12/01/2019 23:04:25
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1329451
Subject: re: Common cold?

mollwollfumble said:


buffy said:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4327893/

Enough from me now.

A meta-analysis, so not necessarily current.

> found the median incubation period to be 5·6 days (95% CI 4·8–6·3) for adenovirus, 3·2 days (95% CI 2·8–3·7) for human coronavirus

(as against 0 to 2 days for the above influenza study)

Hmm, for the latest two colds, I found that the latency period prior to the start of the sore throat could easily be measured in minutes, if not seconds.

Oh wait, only 2 days for rhinovirus.

Which are are current common colds, adenovirus, coronavirus or rhinovirus?

“Well over 200 virus strains are implicated in causing the common cold, with rhinoviruses being the most common”. Ah, OK.

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Date: 12/01/2019 23:55:48
From: transition
ID: 1329457
Subject: re: Common cold?

lady and I have got a special one at the moment.

i’ve been blaming her, visiting doctor’s waiting rooms, hospitals etc.

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Date: 12/01/2019 23:56:46
From: btm
ID: 1329458
Subject: re: Common cold?

I’m about to make some coffee. Would you like some, transition?

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Date: 13/01/2019 00:04:04
From: transition
ID: 1329460
Subject: re: Common cold?

btm said:


I’m about to make some coffee. Would you like some, transition?

please, do it

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Date: 13/01/2019 00:17:56
From: btm
ID: 1329464
Subject: re: Common cold?

btm said:


I’m about to make some coffee. Would you like some, transition?

Sorry, that was meant for chat.

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Date: 13/01/2019 16:45:52
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1329656
Subject: re: Common cold?

transition said:


lady and I have got a special one at the moment.

i’ve been blaming her, visiting doctor’s waiting rooms, hospitals etc.

Yes. Very likely.

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