https://priceonomics.com/the-guinness-brewer-who-revolutionized-statistics/

I thought it was interesting.

sibeen said:

https://priceonomics.com/the-guinness-brewer-who-revolutionized-statistics/

I thought it was interesting.

Mr Student of the Student’s T-Test?

Michael V said:

sibeen said:

https://priceonomics.com/the-guinness-brewer-who-revolutionized-statistics/

I thought it was interesting.

Mr Student of the Student’s T-Test?

Yes.

sibeen said:

Michael V said:

sibeen said:

https://priceonomics.com/the-guinness-brewer-who-revolutionized-statistics/

I thought it was interesting.

Mr Student of the Student’s T-Test?

Yes.

I still remember something from statistics at university. That Guinness is important in unexpected ways.

Michael V said:

sibeen said:

Michael V said:

Mr Student of the Student’s T-Test?

Yes.

I still remember something from statistics at university. That Guinness is important in unexpected ways.

Huh. I didn’t realise he used the pseudonym “Student”.

sibeen said:

https://priceonomics.com/the-guinness-brewer-who-revolutionized-statistics/

I thought it was interesting.

Cheers. Interesting indeed. It certainly expanded my knowledge of “Mr. Student”.

I’ve always disliked the fact that p = 0.05 makes something statistical significant – I’m an engineer, not a scientist – and enjoyed reading that Gosset thought the same.

sibeen said:

I’ve always disliked the fact that p = 0.05 makes something statistical significant – I’m an engineer, not a scientist – and enjoyed reading that Gosset thought the same.

Yeah. I have used different levels of confidence in the statistics, depending on what I’ve worked on.

I didn’t know that Guinness was the Google of its day.

Guinness
Gossett
Google

All start with G.

Coincidence?

I think not.

sibeen said:

Michael V said:

sibeen said:

https://priceonomics.com/the-guinness-brewer-who-revolutionized-statistics/

I thought it was interesting.

Mr Student of the Student’s T-Test?

Yes.

Ah, good. The story I heard in Uni was that he was so humble that he submitted his work anonymously.

I wonder how well journals these days would respond to a submission by a single anonymous author.

The Rev Dodgson said:

I didn’t know that Guinness was the Google of its day.

Guinness
Gossett
Google

All start with G.

Coincidence?

I think not.

Wait on, Gossett, as in the Gossett ?!

If it’s the same chap, he was the first to do geometric dissections in 4-D.

No, different Gossett. The Gossett who gets numerous mentions within H.S.M. Coxeter’s book “Regular Polytopes” is Thorold Gosset. Single ‘t’.

From that book:
“Thorold Gosset was born in 1869. After a largely classical schooling, he went up to Pembroke College, Cambridge, in 1888. He was called to the Bar in 1895, and took a law degree the following year … He died in 1962.”

Different Gossett.

sibeen said:

https://priceonomics.com/the-guinness-brewer-who-revolutionized-statistics/

I thought it was interesting.

> For a quantitative researcher working today, it is almost unfathomable to imagine, but at that time, a theory of making inferences from small samples did not exist.

It still isn’t handled properly today. Student did it correctly, and modern quantitative researchers, particularly in the fields of medicine and biology, should take note.

> In 1925, Fisher published what would become arguably the most influential book in the history of statistics, Statistical Methods for Research Workers.

I wonder if there’s a copy still around somewhere.

> Some of Fisher’s extensions of Gosset’s ideas were controversial. In fact, Gosset himself objected to some of them. The most controversial of these was Fisher’s hallowing of a result that had a probability of less than 5% of occurring randomly (this probability is sometimes referred to as the p-value or P).

Yep. I agree with Gossett. Absolute garbage, the way it is used now.