Morning all..

I’ve been pruning the neighbour’s Morning Glory where it’s been invading my garden. What I want to know is – can it take off again from the cuttings? Is it safe just to pile the prunings up somewhere, or will they take root like Kikiyu or couch?

:)

bon008 said:

Morning all..

I’ve been pruning the neighbour’s Morning Glory where it’s been invading my garden. What I want to know is – can it take off again from the cuttings? Is it safe just to pile the prunings up somewhere, or will they take root like Kikiyu or couch?

:)

they will definitely take root again. It has become a major problem in bushlands due to people dumping prunings.

bluegreen said:

bon008 said:

Morning all..

I’ve been pruning the neighbour’s Morning Glory where it’s been invading my garden. What I want to know is – can it take off again from the cuttings? Is it safe just to pile the prunings up somewhere, or will they take root like Kikiyu or couch?

:)

they will definitely take root again. It has become a major problem in bushlands due to people dumping prunings.

Darn! But I’m very glad I know – instead of sticking them in the bottom of vegie bed #2 and covering with sand, I’ll have to wait for the bin-load of kikiyu to be taken by the council and then put the morning glory out in the greenwaste bin.

Thanks bg :)

throw the cuttings on top of something where they cannot contact soil.. ie: a bit of mesh or something to circulate air.. and in a few days they will be rendered useless as cuttings. Even better, light a fire under them. It will at least dry them out.

bon008 said:

Morning all..

I’ve been pruning the neighbour’s Morning Glory where it’s been invading my garden. What I want to know is – can it take off again from the cuttings? Is it safe just to pile the prunings up somewhere, or will they take root like Kikiyu or couch?

:)

Kill it. Kill it all! Do you wash your hands after handling it?

hortfurball said:

bon008 said:

Morning all..

I’ve been pruning the neighbour’s Morning Glory where it’s been invading my garden. What I want to know is – can it take off again from the cuttings? Is it safe just to pile the prunings up somewhere, or will they take root like Kikiyu or couch?

:)

Kill it. Kill it all! Do you wash your hands after handling it?

I was wearing gloves.. why, does it irritate the skin??

bon008 said:

hortfurball said:

bon008 said:

Morning all..

I’ve been pruning the neighbour’s Morning Glory where it’s been invading my garden. What I want to know is – can it take off again from the cuttings? Is it safe just to pile the prunings up somewhere, or will they take root like Kikiyu or couch?

:)

Kill it. Kill it all! Do you wash your hands after handling it?

I was wearing gloves.. why, does it irritate the skin??

Well it’s poisonous, so if you happened to handle it, then eat something….
you won’t die but it might make you a bit sick.

hortfurball said:

bon008 said:

hortfurball said:

Kill it. Kill it all! Do you wash your hands after handling it?

I was wearing gloves.. why, does it irritate the skin??

Well it’s poisonous, so if you happened to handle it, then eat something….
you won’t die but it might make you a bit sick.

Oh, great, another thing to add to the list then.. I was at a friend’s place this afternoon and had to eat some food that made me sick.. no gluten-free offerings :(

Good thing I wore the gloves in the garden, I better warn Mr Bon about that one too.

bon008 said:

hortfurball said:

bon008 said:

I was wearing gloves.. why, does it irritate the skin??

Well it’s poisonous, so if you happened to handle it, then eat something….
you won’t die but it might make you a bit sick.

Oh, great, another thing to add to the list then.. I was at a friend’s place this afternoon and had to eat some food that made me sick.. no gluten-free offerings :(

Good thing I wore the gloves in the garden, I better warn Mr Bon about that one too.

Now if you were fifteen and rash.. you’d probably be concocting some preparation from the seeds trying to get high..

roughbarked said:

bon008 said:

hortfurball said:

Well it’s poisonous, so if you happened to handle it, then eat something….
you won’t die but it might make you a bit sick.

Oh, great, another thing to add to the list then.. I was at a friend’s place this afternoon and had to eat some food that made me sick.. no gluten-free offerings :(

Good thing I wore the gloves in the garden, I better warn Mr Bon about that one too.

Now if you were fifteen and rash.. you’d probably be concocting some preparation from the seeds trying to get high..

ROFL. Fifteen, and rash, and not me. I wouldn’t have done that at any age.

I’m told my giant cactus may be hallucinagenic, as a point of interest.

(Incidentally, unless it’s quite serious, no one ever tell me when I might have poisoned myself – I am extremely good at becoming sick just because I’m afraid I’ve done something that might make me sick, if that makes sense)

bon008 said:

roughbarked said:

bon008 said:

Oh, great, another thing to add to the list then.. I was at a friend’s place this afternoon and had to eat some food that made me sick.. no gluten-free offerings :(

Good thing I wore the gloves in the garden, I better warn Mr Bon about that one too.

Now if you were fifteen and rash.. you’d probably be concocting some preparation from the seeds trying to get high..

ROFL. Fifteen, and rash, and not me. I wouldn’t have done that at any age.

I’m told my giant cactus may be hallucinagenic, as a point of interest.

(Incidentally, unless it’s quite serious, no one ever tell me when I might have poisoned myself – I am extremely good at becoming sick just because I’m afraid I’ve done something that might make me sick, if that makes sense)

We’ll only tell you that you are poisoned when you exhibit symptoms. ;)

Actually, can someone confirm..

What I am calling “Morning Glory” is (I think) an Ipomoea – is this the poisonous one? Because I just read (via Google) that there’s a completely different kind of vine that also gets called Morning Glory =/

roughbarked said:

We’ll only tell you that you are poisoned when you exhibit symptoms. ;)

ROFL! That’s totally what my dad would say :) He’s been threatening to take my laptop away if I keep looking up medical stuff.

bon008 said:

Actually, can someone confirm..

What I am calling “Morning Glory” is (I think) an Ipomoea – is this the poisonous one? Because I just read (via Google) that there’s a completely different kind of vine that also gets called Morning Glory =/

Common names are often a misnomer.. So many trees in Australia for example are called either Bottle tree or Kurrajong.. When they are all capable of having a more specific name.

roughbarked said:

bon008 said:

Actually, can someone confirm..

What I am calling “Morning Glory” is (I think) an Ipomoea – is this the poisonous one? Because I just read (via Google) that there’s a completely different kind of vine that also gets called Morning Glory =/

Common names are often a misnomer.. So many trees in Australia for example are called either Bottle tree or Kurrajong.. When they are all capable of having a more specific name.

Makes it very confusing for gardening newbies like me!!

bon008 said:

roughbarked said:

bon008 said:

Actually, can someone confirm..

What I am calling “Morning Glory” is (I think) an Ipomoea – is this the poisonous one? Because I just read (via Google) that there’s a completely different kind of vine that also gets called Morning Glory =/

Common names are often a misnomer.. So many trees in Australia for example are called either Bottle tree or Kurrajong.. When they are all capable of having a more specific name.

Makes it very confusing for gardening newbies like me!!

Very confusing., especially when there exist sites like this:
http://legaldruginfo.wordpress.com/2007/06/25/morning-glory-overview/
http://psychoactiveherbs.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=196

This is a plant which I’d kill on sight. They are very pretty for covering ugly tin sheds but there are many more edible or more beautiful plants.

To me, this is a morning glory

haha, I do like your version better :)

The first link you posted looks like my neighbour’s creeper. It’s funny, when I was growing up our neighbours there had it growing over the fence too. I have to keep trimming this one back because it gets tangled up in my citrus.

So.. how poisonous is it, if people are taking to get high or as “natural drug alternatives”?

bon008 said:

haha, I do like your version better :)

The first link you posted looks like my neighbour’s creeper. It’s funny, when I was growing up our neighbours there had it growing over the fence too. I have to keep trimming this one back because it gets tangled up in my citrus.

So.. how poisonous is it, if people are taking to get high or as “natural drug alternatives”?

I’ve never tested its mettle to find out.

but These things vary with dosage and metabolism rates, particular individual characteristics .. not just the actual poison.. it is also the people.

roughbarked said:

bon008 said:

but These things vary with dosage and metabolism rates, particular individual characteristics .. not just the actual poison.. it is also the people.

Makes sense. Anyway, I’ll be more careful with it in the future.

bon008 said:

roughbarked said:

bon008 said:

but These things vary with dosage and metabolism rates, particular individual characteristics .. not just the actual poison.. it is also the people.

Makes sense. Anyway, I’ll be more careful with it in the future.

The important thing is to know which things the kiddies shouldn’t eat.. and preferably not have them growing to tempt fate.. Oleander is another that springs to mind.. and Datura.

roughbarked said:

The important thing is to know which things the kiddies shouldn’t eat.. and preferably not have them growing to tempt fate.. Oleander is another that springs to mind.. and Datura.

Oops, sorry I stuffed the quoting up there.

Yeh, that’s a good point, I’ll have to get HFB over before I have kids to check the garden out for dangerous stuff :) I do worry about the dog sometimes, but she’s never shown any inclination to eat anything except kikuyu.

bon008 said:

roughbarked said:

The important thing is to know which things the kiddies shouldn’t eat.. and preferably not have them growing to tempt fate.. Oleander is another that springs to mind.. and Datura.

Oops, sorry I stuffed the quoting up there.

Yeh, that’s a good point, I’ll have to get HFB over before I have kids to check the garden out for dangerous stuff :) I do worry about the dog sometimes, but she’s never shown any inclination to eat anything except kikuyu.

snails love kikuyu.. people put out snail bait.. sometimes in quantities large enough to kill mice, rats and dogs..

roughbarked said:

bon008 said:

roughbarked said:

The important thing is to know which things the kiddies shouldn’t eat.. and preferably not have them growing to tempt fate.. Oleander is another that springs to mind.. and Datura.

Oops, sorry I stuffed the quoting up there.

Yeh, that’s a good point, I’ll have to get HFB over before I have kids to check the garden out for dangerous stuff :) I do worry about the dog sometimes, but she’s never shown any inclination to eat anything except kikuyu.

snails love kikuyu.. people put out snail bait.. sometimes in quantities large enough to kill mice, rats and dogs..

I collect snails and put ‘em in a bucket with water laced with alcohol, with a lid on. It’s a nice easy chore to do in the garden :)

bon008 said:

roughbarked said:

bon008 said:

Oops, sorry I stuffed the quoting up there.

Yeh, that’s a good point, I’ll have to get HFB over before I have kids to check the garden out for dangerous stuff :) I do worry about the dog sometimes, but she’s never shown any inclination to eat anything except kikuyu.

snails love kikuyu.. people put out snail bait.. sometimes in quantities large enough to kill mice, rats and dogs..

I collect snails and put ‘em in a bucket with water laced with alcohol, with a lid on. It’s a nice easy chore to do in the garden :)

I used to pay my children a cent a snail to catch it and drop it in a bucket with sat in the bottom.. That is, when I had a snail problem.. and my children were small enough to think a cent was worth earning. A little while maybe a year later.. a neighboring child friend of my daughter was here and my daughter was not wanting to pick snails but the enterprising neighbouring friend bumped me up to five cents a snail and prompltly wanted $30 bucks to clear a 3×3 metre patch. she wasn’t even ten…

roughbarked said:

I used to pay my children a cent a snail to catch it and drop it in a bucket with sat in the bottom.. That is, when I had a snail problem.. and my children were small enough to think a cent was worth earning. A little while maybe a year later.. a neighboring child friend of my daughter was here and my daughter was not wanting to pick snails but the enterprising neighbouring friend bumped me up to five cents a snail and prompltly wanted $30 bucks to clear a 3×3 metre patch. she wasn’t even ten…

hehehe!

I haven’t noticed many snails this year – I’m not sure if it’s because it’s just too early and not wet enough, or if it’s because I caught so many last year – hoping for the latter :)

bon008 said:

roughbarked said:

I used to pay my children a cent a snail to catch it and drop it in a bucket with sat in the bottom.. That is, when I had a snail problem.. and my children were small enough to think a cent was worth earning. A little while maybe a year later.. a neighboring child friend of my daughter was here and my daughter was not wanting to pick snails but the enterprising neighbouring friend bumped me up to five cents a snail and prompltly wanted $30 bucks to clear a 3×3 metre patch. she wasn’t even ten…

hehehe!

I haven’t noticed many snails this year – I’m not sure if it’s because it’s just too early and not wet enough, or if it’s because I caught so many last year – hoping for the latter :)

The story I told above relates to a period more than twenty years ago.. since then I have come down to maybe finding one or two snails a year.. that is the French type snails. Slugs still abound wherever I allow habitat by using pots or tubes to grow new plants.
I believe my snail drought relates to the fact that it is twenty years since it was wet enough for them to breed.
my yard is littered with their bones.. er white bleached shells. Where once were millions it looks liike a graveyard.
These snails have been replaced by the smaller and less offensive Mediterranean snails..

bon008 said:

haha, I do like your version better :)

The first link you posted looks like my neighbour’s creeper. It’s funny, when I was growing up our neighbours there had it growing over the fence too. I have to keep trimming this one back because it gets tangled up in my citrus.

So.. how poisonous is it, if people are taking to get high or as “natural drug alternatives”?

As far as I’m aware, it is only lethal to children, especially as they have a tendency to put things in their mouths – like pretty, bright blue flowers. You’ll be fine Bon, don’t stress. Just pointing it out so you wouldn’t handle it, eat a juicy orange and lick the juice off your fingers or something some time in the future. You’d have to ingest a decent amount to have any effect though. I think it is the seeds and the sap which are poisonous.

roughbarked said:

bon008 said:

roughbarked said:

bon008 said:

but These things vary with dosage and metabolism rates, particular individual characteristics .. not just the actual poison.. it is also the people.

Makes sense. Anyway, I’ll be more careful with it in the future.

The important thing is to know which things the kiddies shouldn’t eat.. and preferably not have them growing to tempt fate.. Oleander is another that springs to mind.. and Datura.

…and Cape Lilac (seeds)

For dogs – Brunfelsia latifolia or Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow (seeds)
Bulbs of any kind

For cats – lillies

I have sites bookmarked somewhere (I have too many bookmarks) that I can find later if you want that have cat and dog toxic plants listed.

Quotes have been doing strange things all day…

hortfurball said:

bon008 said:

haha, I do like your version better :)

The first link you posted looks like my neighbour’s creeper. It’s funny, when I was growing up our neighbours there had it growing over the fence too. I have to keep trimming this one back because it gets tangled up in my citrus.

So.. how poisonous is it, if people are taking to get high or as “natural drug alternatives”?

As far as I’m aware, it is only lethal to children, especially as they have a tendency to put things in their mouths – like pretty, bright blue flowers. You’ll be fine Bon, don’t stress. Just pointing it out so you wouldn’t handle it, eat a juicy orange and lick the juice off your fingers or something some time in the future. You’d have to ingest a decent amount to have any effect though. I think it is the seeds and the sap which are poisonous.

Thanks Horty. I am working on reducing my self-imposed illnesses grin

bon008 said:

roughbarked said:

bon008 said:

Oops, sorry I stuffed the quoting up there.

Yeh, that’s a good point, I’ll have to get HFB over before I have kids to check the garden out for dangerous stuff :) I do worry about the dog sometimes, but she’s never shown any inclination to eat anything except kikuyu.

snails love kikuyu.. people put out snail bait.. sometimes in quantities large enough to kill mice, rats and dogs..

I collect snails and put ‘em in a bucket with water laced with alcohol, with a lid on. It’s a nice easy chore to do in the garden :)

I favour the squash em method.

Bubba Louie said:

bon008 said:

roughbarked said:

snails love kikuyu.. people put out snail bait.. sometimes in quantities large enough to kill mice, rats and dogs..

I collect snails and put ‘em in a bucket with water laced with alcohol, with a lid on. It’s a nice easy chore to do in the garden :)

I favour the squash em method.

I’m too squeamish even for squashing snails :( Which is sort of why we have a wild mouse called Herbert in a shoebox sitting on a heat pack at home this morning – he fall into the bath last night and got really cold :(

bon008 said:

Bubba Louie said:

bon008 said:

I collect snails and put ‘em in a bucket with water laced with alcohol, with a lid on. It’s a nice easy chore to do in the garden :)

I favour the squash em method.

I’m too squeamish even for squashing snails :( Which is sort of why we have a wild mouse called Herbert in a shoebox sitting on a heat pack at home this morning – he fall into the bath last night and got really cold :(

softy! he won’t thank you for it you know :)

my MIL used to catch wild mice in the house by hand and put them out in the backyard. Every now and again she had to borrow our cat and go for long walks….

bluegreen said:

bon008 said:

Bubba Louie said:

I favour the squash em method.

I’m too squeamish even for squashing snails :( Which is sort of why we have a wild mouse called Herbert in a shoebox sitting on a heat pack at home this morning – he fall into the bath last night and got really cold :(

softy! he won’t thank you for it you know :)

my MIL used to catch wild mice in the house by hand and put them out in the backyard. Every now and again she had to borrow our cat and go for long walks….

According to Mr Bon, he’s now quite perky but doesn’t seem at all inclined to leave his heated shoebox :D

I think the cold weather must be behind our recent increase in rodent activity – the house is much cleaner now, so it’s not like they’re coming in for food left lying around.

bon008 said:

Bubba Louie said:

bon008 said:

I collect snails and put ‘em in a bucket with water laced with alcohol, with a lid on. It’s a nice easy chore to do in the garden :)

I favour the squash em method.

I’m too squeamish even for squashing snails :( Which is sort of why we have a wild mouse called Herbert in a shoebox sitting on a heat pack at home this morning – he fall into the bath last night and got really cold :(

LOL! Sounds like me! Except I don’t go as far as naming them, AND I know that he won’t be there when you get home! Cardboard isn’t very good at keeping a mouse in!

hortfurball said:

bon008 said:

Bubba Louie said:

I favour the squash em method.

I’m too squeamish even for squashing snails :( Which is sort of why we have a wild mouse called Herbert in a shoebox sitting on a heat pack at home this morning – he fall into the bath last night and got really cold :(

LOL! Sounds like me! Except I don’t go as far as naming them, AND I know that he won’t be there when you get home! Cardboard isn’t very good at keeping a mouse in!

Oh, yeh, we weren’t trying to keep him in, just give him a warm spot to recover :) Mr Bon has since reported that he’s run off at speed, so is looking quite recovered. His recovery this morning was quite amazing – we actually thought he was dead when we found him, and then noticed that his mouth would move, but only once every two minutes or so. Then after a little while he started breathing again, and then after another while he was able to stand up, but it was several hours before he ran off.

my MIL used to catch wild mice in the house by hand and put them out in the backyard. Every now and again she had to borrow our cat and go for long walks….

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I just toss them to the butcherbirds

the cats around here are all in shallow graves.

recalling life

As a child I was more of an observer than a participant yet participate i did.. thus there is history. One July dawning I awoke to minus six C and there was pussy cat.. with a litter larger than she had teats for.
Thus one runty stiff specimen was laying aside as if cast off a ship’s lifeboat in the Arctic. Frozen solid and eyes yet unopened .. I scrummaged in the cupboards and found a clean empty Milo tin.. walked up the back and buried the hapless feline mite, sealed in the tin.
Got washed and dressed, caught the bus off to school.. At the end of the school day, one of the neighbours, a younger girl came over inquiring about the kitten I had buried.. She had heard about it from my younger sister. o in observer mode again I traversed the yard to the burial site and exhumed the coffin.. er.. afore mentioned Milo tin. i said there that’s what I buried the kitten in. Open it she said.. Why? I asked.. She apparently wanted to see the kitten dead or alive so I opened the tin.
Lo and behold there was a live kitten in the bottom of the tin, mewing for its mama!

This same kitten not a few weeks later happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time when an inquisitive child plays with the quick start lawnmowers of those days.. these things were devised to open the handle and do about half a turn and click the handle back down.. Brrm..!

Well the kitten was sleeping on the rotor plate that the blades are attached to .. wasn’t it.

Splat. was the first thing I heard followed by splittersplatter.. in quick succession.. blood was sprayed around the door of the outdoor dunny and the wall of the house..

but the cat came back., momentarily later was wobbling about saying in cat speak.. “anyone get the number of thet truck?”

This cat lived on for many years.
Got a photo somewhere..

roughbarked said:

my MIL used to catch wild mice in the house by hand and put them out in the backyard. Every now and again she had to borrow our cat and go for long walks….

>>>>

<<<<

I just toss them to the butcherbirds

the cats around here are all in shallow graves.

recalling life

As a child I was more of an observer than a participant yet participate i did.. thus there is history. One July dawning I awoke to minus six C and there was pussy cat.. with a litter larger than she had teats for.
Thus one runty stiff specimen was laying aside as if cast off a ship’s lifeboat in the Arctic. Frozen solid and eyes yet unopened .. I scrummaged in the cupboards and found a clean empty Milo tin.. walked up the back and buried the hapless feline mite, sealed in the tin.
Got washed and dressed, caught the bus off to school.. At the end of the school day, one of the neighbours, a younger girl came over inquiring about the kitten I had buried.. She had heard about it from my younger sister. o in observer mode again I traversed the yard to the burial site and exhumed the coffin.. er.. afore mentioned Milo tin. i said there that’s what I buried the kitten in. Open it she said.. Why? I asked.. She apparently wanted to see the kitten dead or alive so I opened the tin.
Lo and behold there was a live kitten in the bottom of the tin, mewing for its mama!

This same kitten not a few weeks later happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time when an inquisitive child plays with the quick start lawnmowers of those days.. these things were devised to open the handle and do about half a turn and click the handle back down.. Brrm..!

Well the kitten was sleeping on the rotor plate that the blades are attached to .. wasn’t it.

Splat. was the first thing I heard followed by splittersplatter.. in quick succession.. blood was sprayed around the door of the outdoor dunny and the wall of the house..

but the cat came back., momentarily later was wobbling about saying in cat speak.. “anyone get the number of thet truck?”

HOLY CRAP!! What did it do with its other seven lives?

still trawling my memory for other instances but yes the cat did live to an old age so perhaps didn’t use up the other seven lives.