Date: 8/02/2019 23:26:53
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1343578
Subject: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

9 Phenomena That Science Still Can’t Explain

Scientists aren’t sure why people yawn.

This mushroom grows only in Texas and Japan, and scientists can’t explain it.

No one knows why Saturn’s north pole has a swirling, hexagon-shaped storm.

Humpback whales have gone from being solitary creatures to living in “super-groups”, a shift marine biologists are still trying to suss out.

There’s no explanation for these curved trees in the ‘Dancing Forest’ in Russia.

Dark matter isn’t like regular matter, and we don’t understand much about it.

Scientists understand how cats purr, but they’re still not sure why they do.

We’re getting hundreds of unintelligible signals from space every second.

There’s an otherworldly looking crater in Siberia that hasn’t been explained.

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Date: 8/02/2019 23:41:59
From: dv
ID: 1343587
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

Interesting about the fungus

“In 2004, a research study compared the DNA sequences of both populations and used a combination of molecular phylogenetics and molecular clock calculations to estimate the extent of genetic divergence. It concluded that the two populations have been separated for at least nineteen million years, ruling out the possibility of human introduction of the species from one location to the other”

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Date: 8/02/2019 23:42:18
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1343588
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

Tau.Neutrino said:


9 Phenomena That Science Still Can’t Explain

Scientists aren’t sure why people yawn.

This mushroom grows only in Texas and Japan, and scientists can’t explain it.

No one knows why Saturn’s north pole has a swirling, hexagon-shaped storm.

Humpback whales have gone from being solitary creatures to living in “super-groups”, a shift marine biologists are still trying to suss out.

There’s no explanation for these curved trees in the ‘Dancing Forest’ in Russia.

Dark matter isn’t like regular matter, and we don’t understand much about it.

Scientists understand how cats purr, but they’re still not sure why they do.

We’re getting hundreds of unintelligible signals from space every second.

There’s an otherworldly looking crater in Siberia that hasn’t been explained.

I don’t know why animals yawn. Presumably it has a really simple explanation, like stretching the jaw muscles to relax them.

I agree about the dark matter.

Everybody knows why cats purr.

We are getting very large numbers of unintelligible signals from space (like the Wow! signal).

My favourite phenomena that science can’t explain, all are puzzles more than a hundred years old:

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Date: 8/02/2019 23:45:49
From: party_pants
ID: 1343589
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

dv said:


Interesting about the fungus

“In 2004, a research study compared the DNA sequences of both populations and used a combination of molecular phylogenetics and molecular clock calculations to estimate the extent of genetic divergence. It concluded that the two populations have been separated for at least nineteen million years, ruling out the possibility of human introduction of the species from one location to the other”

Can spores be carried on the wind that far? Say a volcano in Japan hurled stuff into the stratosphere and with it some fungus spores, which settled in Texas.

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Date: 8/02/2019 23:52:35
From: dv
ID: 1343590
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

party_pants said:


dv said:

Interesting about the fungus

“In 2004, a research study compared the DNA sequences of both populations and used a combination of molecular phylogenetics and molecular clock calculations to estimate the extent of genetic divergence. It concluded that the two populations have been separated for at least nineteen million years, ruling out the possibility of human introduction of the species from one location to the other”

Can spores be carried on the wind that far? Say a volcano in Japan hurled stuff into the stratosphere and with it some fungus spores, which settled in Texas.

Well I don’t know.

Maybe this thing used to be abundant but it has since been wiped out everywhere except these two pockets.

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Date: 8/02/2019 23:54:25
From: party_pants
ID: 1343592
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

dv said:


party_pants said:

dv said:

Interesting about the fungus

“In 2004, a research study compared the DNA sequences of both populations and used a combination of molecular phylogenetics and molecular clock calculations to estimate the extent of genetic divergence. It concluded that the two populations have been separated for at least nineteen million years, ruling out the possibility of human introduction of the species from one location to the other”

Can spores be carried on the wind that far? Say a volcano in Japan hurled stuff into the stratosphere and with it some fungus spores, which settled in Texas.

Well I don’t know.

Maybe this thing used to be abundant but it has since been wiped out everywhere except these two pockets.

well that sounds far more sensible. Let’s go with that.

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Date: 9/02/2019 01:57:00
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1343628
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

party_pants said:


dv said:

party_pants said:

Can spores be carried on the wind that far? Say a volcano in Japan hurled stuff into the stratosphere and with it some fungus spores, which settled in Texas.

Well I don’t know.

Maybe this thing used to be abundant but it has since been wiped out everywhere except these two pockets.

well that sounds far more sensible. Let’s go with that.

Very much doubt it. Fungal spores along with seed from plants like Dandelions can travel vast distances, as evidenced by rapid colonisation of newly formed islands. Strong winds flowing laterally around the globe are not unusual and could easily carry the spores, which after time will develop into different species, but the Genus will remain the same.

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Date: 9/02/2019 02:08:33
From: dv
ID: 1343635
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

PermeateFree said:


party_pants said:

dv said:

Well I don’t know.

Maybe this thing used to be abundant but it has since been wiped out everywhere except these two pockets.

well that sounds far more sensible. Let’s go with that.

Very much doubt it. Fungal spores along with seed from plants like Dandelions can travel vast distances, as evidenced by rapid colonisation of newly formed islands. Strong winds flowing laterally around the globe are not unusual and could easily carry the spores, which after time will develop into different species, but the Genus will remain the same.

So you agree with us.

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Date: 9/02/2019 02:13:07
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1343637
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

dv said:


PermeateFree said:

party_pants said:

well that sounds far more sensible. Let’s go with that.

Very much doubt it. Fungal spores along with seed from plants like Dandelions can travel vast distances, as evidenced by rapid colonisation of newly formed islands. Strong winds flowing laterally around the globe are not unusual and could easily carry the spores, which after time will develop into different species, but the Genus will remain the same.

So you agree with us.

No, why should you think that. Plants have other requirements than just a similar latitude. Very likely it found an ideal habitat in the other country and so took hold. These things are not unusual.

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Date: 9/02/2019 02:14:24
From: dv
ID: 1343638
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

PermeateFree said:

No, why should you think that.

Because your statement that spores travel long distances is in agreement with what we are saying.

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Date: 9/02/2019 02:17:11
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1343640
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

dv said:


PermeateFree said:

No, why should you think that.

Because your statement that spores travel long distances is in agreement with what we are saying.

Yes, but they need the right conditions to develop. I hate to think of the numbers that don’t find a similar habitat. Also similar habitats are not universal, and many conditions need to be met.

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Date: 9/02/2019 02:18:13
From: dv
ID: 1343641
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

PermeateFree said:


dv said:

PermeateFree said:

No, why should you think that.

Because your statement that spores travel long distances is in agreement with what we are saying.

Yes, but they need the right conditions to develop. I hate to think of the numbers that don’t find a similar habitat. Also similar habitats are not universal, and many conditions need to be met.

So we’re all in agreement. Cool.

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Date: 9/02/2019 02:21:10
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1343644
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

dv said:


PermeateFree said:

dv said:

Because your statement that spores travel long distances is in agreement with what we are saying.

Yes, but they need the right conditions to develop. I hate to think of the numbers that don’t find a similar habitat. Also similar habitats are not universal, and many conditions need to be met.

So we’re all in agreement. Cool.

What is the matter with you dv, are you being intentionally abuse. No they are not the same.

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Date: 9/02/2019 02:22:05
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1343645
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

PermeateFree said:


dv said:

PermeateFree said:

Yes, but they need the right conditions to develop. I hate to think of the numbers that don’t find a similar habitat. Also similar habitats are not universal, and many conditions need to be met.

So we’re all in agreement. Cool.

What is the matter with you dv, are you being intentionally abuse. No they are not the same.

abuse = obuse

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Date: 9/02/2019 02:23:19
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1343646
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

PermeateFree said:


PermeateFree said:

dv said:

So we’re all in agreement. Cool.

What is the matter with you dv, are you being intentionally abuse. No they are not the same.

abuse = obuse

obtuse

Anyway, it’s good to see you two in agreement for a change.

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Date: 9/02/2019 02:23:20
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1343647
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

PermeateFree said:


PermeateFree said:

dv said:

So we’re all in agreement. Cool.

What is the matter with you dv, are you being intentionally abuse. No they are not the same.

abuse = obuse

Try again should be ‘Obtuse.’

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Date: 9/02/2019 02:34:33
From: dv
ID: 1343648
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

Bubblecar said:


PermeateFree said:

PermeateFree said:

What is the matter with you dv, are you being intentionally abuse. No they are not the same.

abuse = obuse

obtuse

Anyway, it’s good to see you two in agreement for a change.

I know right? Doesn’t happen much but it’s a peaceful feeling.

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Date: 9/02/2019 02:47:13
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1343649
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

dv said:


Bubblecar said:

PermeateFree said:

abuse = obuse

obtuse

Anyway, it’s good to see you two in agreement for a change.

I know right? Doesn’t happen much but it’s a peaceful feeling.

Your ego dv knows no bounds. If you only knew how wrong you often are, I’m sure it would shrink considerably.

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Date: 9/02/2019 02:51:36
From: dv
ID: 1343650
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

PermeateFree said:


Your ego dv knows no bounds.

Dude … chill. We agree. It’s a win.

Big hugs…

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Date: 9/02/2019 03:00:48
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1343651
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

dv said:


PermeateFree said:

Your ego dv knows no bounds.

Dude … chill. We agree. It’s a win.

Big hugs…

No we do not agree. You are talking about highly complex systems that you cross of your list with a simple glib answer. Life is a lot more complicated than you seem to think.

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Date: 9/02/2019 09:06:17
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1343668
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

Tau.Neutrino said:


9 Phenomena That Science Still Can’t Explain

Scientists aren’t sure why people yawn.

This mushroom grows only in Texas and Japan, and scientists can’t explain it.

No one knows why Saturn’s north pole has a swirling, hexagon-shaped storm.

Humpback whales have gone from being solitary creatures to living in “super-groups”, a shift marine biologists are still trying to suss out.

There’s no explanation for these curved trees in the ‘Dancing Forest’ in Russia.

Dark matter isn’t like regular matter, and we don’t understand much about it.

Scientists understand how cats purr, but they’re still not sure why they do.

We’re getting hundreds of unintelligible signals from space every second.

There’s an otherworldly looking crater in Siberia that hasn’t been explained.

10. When people make lists of surprising things on the Internet, at least 2/3 of them are always crap.

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Date: 9/02/2019 09:08:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 1343671
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

9 Phenomena That Science Still Can’t Explain

Scientists aren’t sure why people yawn.

This mushroom grows only in Texas and Japan, and scientists can’t explain it.

No one knows why Saturn’s north pole has a swirling, hexagon-shaped storm.

Humpback whales have gone from being solitary creatures to living in “super-groups”, a shift marine biologists are still trying to suss out.

There’s no explanation for these curved trees in the ‘Dancing Forest’ in Russia.

Dark matter isn’t like regular matter, and we don’t understand much about it.

Scientists understand how cats purr, but they’re still not sure why they do.

We’re getting hundreds of unintelligible signals from space every second.

There’s an otherworldly looking crater in Siberia that hasn’t been explained.

10. When people make lists of surprising things on the Internet, at least 2/3 of them are always crap.

One good part from this ecperience is that the internet helps to clear up the misinformation as quickly as it is made and dispersed.

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Date: 9/02/2019 09:24:10
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1343675
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

9 Phenomena That Science Still Can’t Explain

Scientists aren’t sure why people yawn.

This mushroom grows only in Texas and Japan, and scientists can’t explain it.

No one knows why Saturn’s north pole has a swirling, hexagon-shaped storm.

Humpback whales have gone from being solitary creatures to living in “super-groups”, a shift marine biologists are still trying to suss out.

There’s no explanation for these curved trees in the ‘Dancing Forest’ in Russia.

Dark matter isn’t like regular matter, and we don’t understand much about it.

Scientists understand how cats purr, but they’re still not sure why they do.

We’re getting hundreds of unintelligible signals from space every second.

There’s an otherworldly looking crater in Siberia that hasn’t been explained.

10. When people make lists of surprising things on the Internet, at least 2/3 of them are always crap.

I disagree. There are good lists and bad lists. The good ones are very good indeed. They can vary from 0% crap to 100% crap.

Which ones here do you disagree with?

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Date: 9/02/2019 11:28:37
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1343721
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

mollwollfumble said:


I disagree. There are good lists and bad lists. The good ones are very good indeed. They can vary from 0% crap to 100% crap.

Which ones here do you disagree with?

I know, I was joking.

All generalised statements are wrong.

Including that one, obviously.

I think all of those statements could be seen as true or false, depending on what you mean by “understand”.

At some level, we don’t understand anything.

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Date: 9/02/2019 20:12:53
From: transition
ID: 1344022
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

>Scientists aren’t sure why people yawn.

other animals yawn, larry yawns

it’s like (related you might say) stretching, many animals stretch

discussion in progress

larry also does anticipational (or expectational) yawns, (along with a shake) like when he knows we’re going for a drive or walk.

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Date: 9/02/2019 22:02:26
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1344048
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

dv said:


PermeateFree said:

party_pants said:

well that sounds far more sensible. Let’s go with that.

Very much doubt it. Fungal spores along with seed from plants like Dandelions can travel vast distances, as evidenced by rapid colonisation of newly formed islands. Strong winds flowing laterally around the globe are not unusual and could easily carry the spores, which after time will develop into different species, but the Genus will remain the same.

So you agree with us.

It can get weirder. Bacteria present under about a km of rock that are the same species but are on opposite sides of the Earth and not present in between.

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Date: 9/02/2019 22:12:05
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1344051
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

transition said:


>Scientists aren’t sure why people yawn.

other animals yawn, larry yawns

it’s like (related you might say) stretching, many animals stretch

discussion in progress

larry also does anticipational (or expectational) yawns, (along with a shake) like when he knows we’re going for a drive or walk.

How far down the evolutionary tree do you have to go before no yawns are found?

Eg. Are yawns limited to air-breathers?

According to Wikipedia, no.

“baboons yawn Similarly, Siamese fighting fish yawn Guinea pigs also yawn. Adelie penguins employ yawning. This trait has also been seen among emperor penguins. Snakes yawn, Dogs, and occasionally cats, often yawn. Fish can also yawn.”

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Date: 9/02/2019 22:20:31
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1344055
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

mollwollfumble said:


dv said:

PermeateFree said:

Very much doubt it. Fungal spores along with seed from plants like Dandelions can travel vast distances, as evidenced by rapid colonisation of newly formed islands. Strong winds flowing laterally around the globe are not unusual and could easily carry the spores, which after time will develop into different species, but the Genus will remain the same.

So you agree with us.

It can get weirder. Bacteria present under about a km of rock that are the same species but are on opposite sides of the Earth and not present in between.

They have been around a lot longer though.

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Date: 10/02/2019 00:00:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 1344088
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

transition said:


>Scientists aren’t sure why people yawn.

other animals yawn, larry yawns

it’s like (related you might say) stretching, many animals stretch

discussion in progress

larry also does anticipational (or expectational) yawns, (along with a shake) like when he knows we’re going for a drive or walk.

Yeah.

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Date: 10/02/2019 00:09:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 1344096
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

Bugger. I seem to be the only person here.

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Date: 10/02/2019 04:57:09
From: Ogmog
ID: 1344131
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

roughbarked said:


Bugger. I seem to be the only person here.

Nup, I just HOPpined by as well.

I believe social animals Yawn (and CATCH Yawns)
as an unconscious Social Que to relax, power-down,
& even sleep to allow the group to conserve energy
between hunting & foraging. Esp. on RAINY DAYS..
..ever wonder WHY you get Drowsy on Rainy Days ^

Love ‘em or Hate’em… Cats are AMAZING Animals.
one of the many evolutionary innovations that set
them apart is A PERSONAL VIBRATOR, as for WHY
They PURR? If you had a PERSONAL FULL-BODY
MASSAGE UNIT (batteries not included) Wouldn’t YOU Not Use It whenever you wanted to Relax? (-X

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Date: 10/02/2019 12:17:06
From: Ian
ID: 1344199
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

Why do cats purr?

In domestic cats, purring is most noticeable when an animal is nursing her kittens or when humans provide social contact via petting, stroking or feeding.

Although we assume that a cat’s purr is an expression of pleasure or is a means of communication with its young, perhaps the reasons for purring can be deciphered from the more stressful moments in a cat’s life. Cats often purr while under duress, such as during a visit to the veterinarian or when recovering from injury. Thus, not all purring cats appear to be content or pleased with their current circumstances. This riddle has lead researchers to investigate how cats purr, which is also still under debate.

..Various investigators have shown that sound frequencies in this range can improve bone density and promote healing.

Because cats have adapted to conserve energy via long periods of rest and sleep, it is possible that purring is a low energy mechanism that stimulates muscles and bones without a lot of energy. The durability of the cat has facilitated the notion that cats have “nine lives” and a common veterinary legend holds that cats are able to reassemble their bones when placed in the same room with all their parts. Purring may provide a basis for this feline mythology. The domestication and breeding of fancy cats occurred relatively recently compared to other pets and domesticated species, thus cats do not display as many muscle and bone abnormalities as their more strongly selected carnivore relative, the domestic dog. Perhaps cats’ purring helps alleviate the dysplasia or osteoporotic conditions that are more common in their canid cousins. Although it is tempting to state that cats purr because they are happy, it is more plausible that cat purring is a means of communication and a potential source of self-healing.

The healing power of your cat’s purr

Scientific evidence suggests that their purr can be specifically beneficial to their owner.

There are many tales of cat owners who are sick or in pain, feeling better, sometimes even healed, by their cat’s purr.

Vibrational therapy creates the same healing and reinforcement using low frequency vibrations instead of intense high impact activity. So, theoretically, a cat’s purr can help healing.

But it’s not just about healing bones, the healing power of cats can work in a number of magical ways:

Lowering stress — petting a purring cat can calm you
A cat’s purr can decrease the symptoms of dyspnoea (difficulty in breathing) in both cats and humans
Lower blood pressure by interacting with the cat and hearing the purring sound
Reducing the risk of heart disease (cat owners have 40% less risk of having a heart attack)
Purr vibrations help to heal infections, swelling, bone healing and growth, pain relief, muscle growth and repair, tendon repair and joint mobility

So why do cats purr?

The common belief is that cats purr to show their happiness but they also purr when frightened, severely injured, giving birth and even while dying.

..why a cat would waste energy purring in its last moments:

“For the purr to exist in different cat species over time, geographical isolation etc. there would likely have to be something very important (survival mechanism) about the purr. There also would have to be a very good reason for energy expenditure (in this case creation of the purr), when one is physically stressed or ill. The vibration of the cat’s diaphragm, which with the larynx, creates the purr, requires energy. If an animal is injured they would not use this energy unless it was beneficial to their survival.”

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Date: 11/02/2019 11:04:36
From: Cymek
ID: 1344452
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

dv said:


PermeateFree said:

dv said:

Because your statement that spores travel long distances is in agreement with what we are saying.

Yes, but they need the right conditions to develop. I hate to think of the numbers that don’t find a similar habitat. Also similar habitats are not universal, and many conditions need to be met.

So we’re all in agreement. Cool.

Surely they could travel worldwide via winds, land everywhere but only grow in the right conditions which happens to be those two places

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Date: 11/02/2019 11:06:28
From: Cymek
ID: 1344453
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

Humpback whales have gone from being solitary creatures to living in “super-groups”, a shift marine biologists are still trying to suss out.

They learnt super groups better enable them to herd fish perhaps, one group scares the fish into the mouths of another waiting group

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Date: 11/02/2019 11:10:58
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1344454
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

Cymek said:


Humpback whales have gone from being solitary creatures to living in “super-groups”, a shift marine biologists are still trying to suss out.

They learnt super groups better enable them to herd fish perhaps, one group scares the fish into the mouths of another waiting group

It seems to me highly probable that this behaviour has only just been observed by humans, rather than that they have only just started doing it.

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Date: 11/02/2019 11:12:38
From: Cymek
ID: 1344455
Subject: re: 9 Phenomena That Science Still Can't Explain

The Rev Dodgson said:


Cymek said:

Humpback whales have gone from being solitary creatures to living in “super-groups”, a shift marine biologists are still trying to suss out.

They learnt super groups better enable them to herd fish perhaps, one group scares the fish into the mouths of another waiting group

It seems to me highly probable that this behaviour has only just been observed by humans, rather than that they have only just started doing it.

That’s quite possible as well.
Perhaps the solitary whales were on their way to the group

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