Date: 10/02/2019 12:20:09
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1344201
Subject: Book of the movie?

Many movies are adapted from books.
Many movies end up being novelized into a book.

I’ve read the BOOKs: Shrek, ET, The Abyss, Star Trek the Movie, etc.

Makes me wonder.

Are there any movies say 10 to 50 years old that haven’t been converted into or from books?
If so, in what proportion?

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Date: 10/02/2019 22:19:04
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1344373
Subject: re: Book of the movie?

mollwollfumble said:


Many movies are adapted from books.
Many movies end up being novelized into a book.

I’ve read the BOOKs: Shrek, ET, The Abyss, Star Trek the Movie, etc.

Makes me wonder.

Are there any movies say 10 to 50 years old that haven’t been converted into or from books?
If so, in what proportion?

A list of 152 novelizations can be found on http://www.paperbackswap.com/Movie-Novelization/tag/12147/?type_id=1&tag_id=12147&obd=1&l=100&ls=100 but that’s definitely not a complete list.

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Date: 10/02/2019 22:24:06
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1344374
Subject: re: Book of the movie?

mollwollfumble said:


mollwollfumble said:

Many movies are adapted from books.
Many movies end up being novelized into a book.

I’ve read the BOOKs: Shrek, ET, The Abyss, Star Trek the Movie, etc.

Makes me wonder.

Are there any movies say 10 to 50 years old that haven’t been converted into or from books?
If so, in what proportion?

A list of 152 novelizations can be found on http://www.paperbackswap.com/Movie-Novelization/tag/12147/?type_id=1&tag_id=12147&obd=1&l=100&ls=100 but that’s definitely not a complete list.

There would be plenty, think black and white sci fi, or 50s sci fi. King Kong and other horror stories, hammer studios.

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Date: 11/02/2019 03:44:25
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1344413
Subject: re: Book of the movie?

AwesomeO said:


mollwollfumble said:

mollwollfumble said:

Many movies are adapted from books.
Many movies end up being novelized into a book.

I’ve read the BOOKs: Shrek, ET, The Abyss, Star Trek the Movie, etc.

Makes me wonder.

Are there any movies say 10 to 50 years old that haven’t been converted into or from books?
If so, in what proportion?

A list of 152 novelizations can be found on http://www.paperbackswap.com/Movie-Novelization/tag/12147/?type_id=1&tag_id=12147&obd=1&l=100&ls=100 but that’s definitely not a complete list.

There would be plenty, think black and white sci fi, or 50s sci fi. King Kong and other horror stories, hammer studios.

Yeah, that’s why I set the 50 year time limit. But let’s treat the time frame as flexible, and start with
The 100 Greatest Movies

(Not my list of 100 greatest movies, I only watch comedies). 85% are in the right time frame.

Did I mention that I’ve also read the books Cocoon and Howl’s Magic Castle. Some books are better than the films (eg. Star Trek the Movie), some equal (eg. Shrek, Cocoon, E.T.) and some books much worse (eg. The Abyss, Howl’s Moving Castle).

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Date: 11/02/2019 04:43:39
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1344414
Subject: re: Book of the movie?

Just tried to find books for 50 movies of that list of 100.

Pretty close to a 100% hit rate.

The closest thing to a miss was “Interstellar” where I only found the book “The science in Interstellar”.

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Date: 11/02/2019 23:06:15
From: Kothos
ID: 1344717
Subject: re: Book of the movie?

I thought every movie was novelised as a matter of course. It’s usually pretty simple – if it’s a particularly good or successful movie it might even get novelised well. But regardless, it’s always a piece of piss to get some hack to bash out a pulpy mess of words and slap on the movie title. It’s free money because some people will buy it just based on their opinion of the movie.

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Date: 11/02/2019 23:40:22
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1344720
Subject: re: Book of the movie?

No. It’s far more lucrative to have other merchandise based on movies, eg toys and collectibles. Novelisations of original films are rare; you’re much more likely to see a behind-the-scenes book or a collection of artworks from the film, particularly for animated and CGI films.

Kids movies are usually the only ones turned into books these days. Think Disney book collections or stories based on one part of the film; for instance, the Minions movie had several stories which only took up a few seconds or minutes of film. Dracula’s birthday scene was one such story. In the film it lasted about thirty seconds, yet a children’s book was written about it. Same for the King Bob storyline.

For adults, they tend to make books designed as collector’s items. For the film Avatar, there were books about Pandora, the Na’vi, photos from the film and a children’s novelisation. Although a book deal has been signed, the books will be designed to “enrich and enhance” the Avatar story, not just a simple retelling. https://www.latimes.com/books/jacketcopy/la-et-jc-avatar-books-20171206-story.html

As for the original question, who knows? These days, re-imaginings are all the rage. Tim Burton directed Alice in Wonderland a few years back, which only shared its name and characters from the book, nothing of the storyline at all. Although, it must be said, that Disney are quite good at that. Most of their films based on fairy tales have been changed; the original story of Aladdin was set in China, not the Middle East.

Films made from books are a good deal. You hook the readers who love the book, and entice new ones who love the movie. Sometimes, movies and tv series are remade several times, think Little Women. Sometimes you have tv series made into several seasons even though there are no book sequels eg 13 Reasons Why, Orange is the New Black, You, Big Little Lies.

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Date: 12/02/2019 11:02:20
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1344767
Subject: re: Book of the movie?

Kothos said:

I thought every movie was novelised as a matter of course. It’s usually pretty simple – if it’s a particularly good or successful movie it might even get novelised well. But regardless, it’s always a piece of piss to get some hack to bash out a pulpy mess of words and slap on the movie title. It’s free money because some people will buy it just based on their opinion of the movie.

That seems to be the case. But occasionally the book is better than the movie. For example I read the book “Star Trek the Movie” before I watched the movie. The book was better, much better. Even the book “Shrek” contains all the dialogue from the movie, and even a tiny bit more dialogue, it’s an excellent book.

The following are some movies that have been released as books. Not all of them are childrens’ movies. The movie “Oldboy” is unusual in that it’s based on a pre-existing Japanese comic book series. In addition to the ‘book of the movie’ which seems to be nearly 100% coverage, some movies release complete screenplays as books, some release short versions for children, some as comic book series, some as behind-the-scenes books, with heaps of other merchandising.

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Date: 12/02/2019 11:31:47
From: Ian
ID: 1344785
Subject: re: Book of the movie?

2001: A Space Odyssey was simultaneously a book and a movie.

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Date: 12/02/2019 11:35:19
From: Cymek
ID: 1344790
Subject: re: Book of the movie?

Ian said:


2001: A Space Odyssey was simultaneously a book and a movie.

I still can’t get through that entire movie, it’s so boring I had no problem reading the book though

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Date: 12/02/2019 11:40:07
From: Ian
ID: 1344792
Subject: re: Book of the movie?

Cymek said:


Ian said:

2001: A Space Odyssey was simultaneously a book and a movie.

I still can’t get through that entire movie, it’s so boring I had no problem reading the book though

Have you ever seen it on the big screen?

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Date: 12/02/2019 11:41:50
From: Cymek
ID: 1344795
Subject: re: Book of the movie?

Ian said:


Cymek said:

Ian said:

2001: A Space Odyssey was simultaneously a book and a movie.

I still can’t get through that entire movie, it’s so boring I had no problem reading the book though

Have you ever seen it on the big screen?

No television, I find the pacing glacial slow, it not the lack of action as other non action science fiction movies I enjoy

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Date: 12/02/2019 11:44:28
From: Michael V
ID: 1344797
Subject: re: Book of the movie?

Ian said:


Cymek said:

Ian said:

2001: A Space Odyssey was simultaneously a book and a movie.

I still can’t get through that entire movie, it’s so boring I had no problem reading the book though

Have you ever seen it on the big screen?

And full of ganja?

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Date: 12/02/2019 11:45:45
From: Cymek
ID: 1344798
Subject: re: Book of the movie?

Michael V said:


Ian said:

Cymek said:

I still can’t get through that entire movie, it’s so boring I had no problem reading the book though

Have you ever seen it on the big screen?

And full of ganja?

So you need to be stoned

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Date: 12/02/2019 11:47:14
From: Michael V
ID: 1344800
Subject: re: Book of the movie?

Cymek said:


Michael V said:

Ian said:

Have you ever seen it on the big screen?

And full of ganja?

So you need to be stoned

There are some who might say that. I couldn’t possibly comment.

;)

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Date: 12/02/2019 11:48:59
From: Tamb
ID: 1344801
Subject: re: Book of the movie?

Michael V said:


Cymek said:

Michael V said:

And full of ganja?

So you need to be stoned

There are some who might say that. I couldn’t possibly comment.

;)

Never having been stoned I cannot comment.

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Date: 12/02/2019 11:52:06
From: Ian
ID: 1344802
Subject: re: Book of the movie?

Michael V said:


Ian said:

Cymek said:

I still can’t get through that entire movie, it’s so boring I had no problem reading the book though

Have you ever seen it on the big screen?

And full of ganja?

Oh yeah.. really fully evil stuff…

We wandered into the theatre a bit late (because of puff puff) and into the scene where the ape-men were grunting and threatening one another. I laughed and so did the whole audience…

:))

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Date: 12/02/2019 12:15:54
From: Ian
ID: 1344810
Subject: re: Book of the movie?

Cymek said:


Michael V said:

Ian said:

Have you ever seen it on the big screen?

And full of ganja?

So you need to be stoned

No, no.. any of the major hallucinogens will do. A lot of heads would time their peak for the “lightshow”..

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Date: 12/02/2019 12:31:06
From: Ian
ID: 1344817
Subject: re: Book of the movie?

You can appreciate 2001 on many levels as well as states of mind. One prominent astrobiologist (forget who) says that the movie gives the most accurate impression of what alien contact would probably look like.

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Date: 12/02/2019 12:36:21
From: Cymek
ID: 1344819
Subject: re: Book of the movie?

Ian said:


You can appreciate 2001 on many levels as well as states of mind. One prominent astrobiologist (forget who) says that the movie gives the most accurate impression of what alien contact would probably look like.

Using a Von Neumann probe

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