Date: 12/02/2019 16:21:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 1344939
Subject: MND caused by blue-green algae?

The rural New South Wales town of Griffith has a startling rate of the deadly condition, also known as ALS. Seven times the the national average.

This is most likely due to blue-green algae in local waterways, according to a report by The Sunday Project.

Michelle Vearing and her sister Tania Magoci grew up swimming in Lake Wyangan, on the outskirts of Griffith in the state’s Riverina region.

After Tania was diagnosed with Motor Neurone Disease (MND) in 2011, the siblings vowed to never enter the lake again after guessing it was the cause.

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Date: 12/02/2019 16:39:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 1344950
Subject: re: MND caused by blue-green algae?

International research has linked the neurotoxin BMAA — which is a byproduct of blue-green algae — to MND.

The toxin was recently found in Lake Wyangan. and the Darling River.

https://tendaily.com.au/news/australia/a190209owx/the-aussie-town-where-motor-neurone-disease-is-7-times-the-national-average-20190209?fbclid=IwAR0lIZK4utQlTQah0-0Hy5AIobab5Us3NUWdSAnzit8esAVJk-7nu9i2TkA

Lake Wyangan is 2km from my house.

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Date: 12/02/2019 17:06:49
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1344962
Subject: re: MND caused by blue-green algae?

roughbarked said:


The rural New South Wales town of Griffith has a startling rate of the deadly condition, also known as ALS. Seven times the the national average.

This is most likely due to blue-green algae in local waterways, according to a report by The Sunday Project.

Michelle Vearing and her sister Tania Magoci grew up swimming in Lake Wyangan, on the outskirts of Griffith in the state’s Riverina region.

After Tania was diagnosed with Motor Neurone Disease (MND) in 2011, the siblings vowed to never enter the lake again after guessing it was the cause.

Sometime, I must look up how epidemiology is done.

“Within a population of 100,000 people, there are 2 new ALS cases each year.” Griffith has a population of what? 25,000 people. So seven times the national average would be 4 people.

“Where no family history of the disease is present — around 90% of cases — no cause is known. Possible associations for which evidence is inconclusive include military service and smoking. Although studies on military history and ALS frequency are inconsistent, there is weak evidence for a positive correlation. Various proposed factors include exposure to environmental toxins (inferred from geographical deployment studies), as well as alcohol and tobacco use during military service.

A 2016 review of 16 meta-analyses concluded that there was convincing evidence for an association with chronic occupational exposure to lead; suggestive evidence for farming, exposure to heavy metals other than lead, beta-carotene intake, and head injury; and weak evidence for omega-three fatty acid intake, exposure to extremely low frequency electromagnetic fields, pesticides, and serum uric acid.

In a 2017 study by the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention analyzing U.S. deaths from 1985 to 2011, occupations correlated with ALS deaths were white collar, such as in management, financial, architectural, computing, legal, and education jobs. Other potential risk factors remain unconfirmed, including chemical exposure, electromagnetic field exposure, occupation, physical trauma, and electric shock. There is a tentative association with exposure to various pesticides, including the organochlorine insecticides aldrin, dieldrin, DDT, and toxaphene.”

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Date: 12/02/2019 17:10:53
From: Zarkov
ID: 1344964
Subject: re: MND caused by blue-green algae?

mollwollfumble said:


roughbarked said:

The rural New South Wales town of Griffith has a startling rate of the deadly condition, also known as ALS. Seven times the the national average.

This is most likely due to blue-green algae in local waterways, according to a report by The Sunday Project.

Michelle Vearing and her sister Tania Magoci grew up swimming in Lake Wyangan, on the outskirts of Griffith in the state’s Riverina region.

After Tania was diagnosed with Motor Neurone Disease (MND) in 2011, the siblings vowed to never enter the lake again after guessing it was the cause.

Sometime, I must look up how epidemiology is done.

“Within a population of 100,000 people, there are 2 new ALS cases each year.” Griffith has a population of what? 25,000 people. So seven times the national average would be 4 people.

“Where no family history of the disease is present — around 90% of cases — no cause is known. Possible associations for which evidence is inconclusive include military service and smoking. Although studies on military history and ALS frequency are inconsistent, there is weak evidence for a positive correlation. Various proposed factors include exposure to environmental toxins (inferred from geographical deployment studies), as well as alcohol and tobacco use during military service.

A 2016 review of 16 meta-analyses concluded that there was convincing evidence for an association with chronic occupational exposure to lead; suggestive evidence for farming, exposure to heavy metals other than lead, beta-carotene intake, and head injury; and weak evidence for omega-three fatty acid intake, exposure to extremely low frequency electromagnetic fields, pesticides, and serum uric acid.

In a 2017 study by the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention analyzing U.S. deaths from 1985 to 2011, occupations correlated with ALS deaths were white collar, such as in management, financial, architectural, computing, legal, and education jobs. Other potential risk factors remain unconfirmed, including chemical exposure, electromagnetic field exposure, occupation, physical trauma, and electric shock. There is a tentative association with exposure to various pesticides, including the organochlorine insecticides aldrin, dieldrin, DDT, and toxaphene.”

Metal poisoning for sure

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Date: 12/02/2019 17:16:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 1344972
Subject: re: MND caused by blue-green algae?

mollwollfumble said:


roughbarked said:

The rural New South Wales town of Griffith has a startling rate of the deadly condition, also known as ALS. Seven times the the national average.

This is most likely due to blue-green algae in local waterways, according to a report by The Sunday Project.

Michelle Vearing and her sister Tania Magoci grew up swimming in Lake Wyangan, on the outskirts of Griffith in the state’s Riverina region.

After Tania was diagnosed with Motor Neurone Disease (MND) in 2011, the siblings vowed to never enter the lake again after guessing it was the cause.

Sometime, I must look up how epidemiology is done.

“Within a population of 100,000 people, there are 2 new ALS cases each year.” Griffith has a population of what? 25,000 people. So seven times the national average would be 4 people.

“Where no family history of the disease is present — around 90% of cases — no cause is known. Possible associations for which evidence is inconclusive include military service and smoking. Although studies on military history and ALS frequency are inconsistent, there is weak evidence for a positive correlation. Various proposed factors include exposure to environmental toxins (inferred from geographical deployment studies), as well as alcohol and tobacco use during military service.

A 2016 review of 16 meta-analyses concluded that there was convincing evidence for an association with chronic occupational exposure to lead; suggestive evidence for farming, exposure to heavy metals other than lead, beta-carotene intake, and head injury; and weak evidence for omega-three fatty acid intake, exposure to extremely low frequency electromagnetic fields, pesticides, and serum uric acid.

In a 2017 study by the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention analyzing U.S. deaths from 1985 to 2011, occupations correlated with ALS deaths were white collar, such as in management, financial, architectural, computing, legal, and education jobs. Other potential risk factors remain unconfirmed, including chemical exposure, electromagnetic field exposure, occupation, physical trauma, and electric shock. There is a tentative association with exposure to various pesticides, including the organochlorine insecticides aldrin, dieldrin, DDT, and toxaphene.”

Interesting though incorrect, this says tthat Griffith has only 18,196 people in 2016 census. but the city of Griffith is the whole shire, not just this little bit. http://quickstats.censusdata.abs.gov.au/census_services/getproduct/census/2016/quickstat/SSC11782

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Date: 12/02/2019 17:22:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 1344984
Subject: re: MND caused by blue-green algae?

roughbarked said:


mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

The rural New South Wales town of Griffith has a startling rate of the deadly condition, also known as ALS. Seven times the the national average.

This is most likely due to blue-green algae in local waterways, according to a report by The Sunday Project.

Michelle Vearing and her sister Tania Magoci grew up swimming in Lake Wyangan, on the outskirts of Griffith in the state’s Riverina region.

After Tania was diagnosed with Motor Neurone Disease (MND) in 2011, the siblings vowed to never enter the lake again after guessing it was the cause.

Sometime, I must look up how epidemiology is done.

“Within a population of 100,000 people, there are 2 new ALS cases each year.” Griffith has a population of what? 25,000 people. So seven times the national average would be 4 people.

“Where no family history of the disease is present — around 90% of cases — no cause is known. Possible associations for which evidence is inconclusive include military service and smoking. Although studies on military history and ALS frequency are inconsistent, there is weak evidence for a positive correlation. Various proposed factors include exposure to environmental toxins (inferred from geographical deployment studies), as well as alcohol and tobacco use during military service.

A 2016 review of 16 meta-analyses concluded that there was convincing evidence for an association with chronic occupational exposure to lead; suggestive evidence for farming, exposure to heavy metals other than lead, beta-carotene intake, and head injury; and weak evidence for omega-three fatty acid intake, exposure to extremely low frequency electromagnetic fields, pesticides, and serum uric acid.

In a 2017 study by the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention analyzing U.S. deaths from 1985 to 2011, occupations correlated with ALS deaths were white collar, such as in management, financial, architectural, computing, legal, and education jobs. Other potential risk factors remain unconfirmed, including chemical exposure, electromagnetic field exposure, occupation, physical trauma, and electric shock. There is a tentative association with exposure to various pesticides, including the organochlorine insecticides aldrin, dieldrin, DDT, and toxaphene.”

Interesting though incorrect, this says tthat Griffith has only 18,196 people in 2016 census. but the city of Griffith is the whole shire, not just this little bit. http://quickstats.censusdata.abs.gov.au/census_services/getproduct/census/2016/quickstat/SSC11782

More realistic.
https://forecast.id.com.au/griffith

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Date: 12/02/2019 22:05:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 1345159
Subject: re: MND caused by blue-green algae?

It is only occasional but on occasions they do pump from Lake Wyangan into the town water despite whatever condition the lake is in, simply because vloume is required. Which is why most of us have fitted water filters, if we drink that stuff.
It is nonsensical because the lake is part of the drainage system from the irrigated farmland.

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Date: 12/02/2019 22:06:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 1345161
Subject: re: MND caused by blue-green algae?

roughbarked said:


It is only occasional but on occasions they do pump from Lake Wyangan into the town water despite whatever condition the lake is in, simply because volume is required. Which is why most of us have fitted water filters, if we drink that stuff.
It is nonsensical because the lake is part of the drainage system from the irrigated farmland.

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Date: 12/02/2019 22:22:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 1345171
Subject: re: MND caused by blue-green algae?

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

It is only occasional but on occasions they do pump from Lake Wyangan into the town water despite whatever condition the lake is in, simply because volume is required. Which is why most of us have fitted water filters, if we drink that stuff.
It is nonsensical because the lake is part of the drainage system from the irrigated farmland.

I have to ask though, is this where we are heading with our population (growth) exceeding our infrastructure capacity to water them with?

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Date: 12/02/2019 22:24:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1345172
Subject: re: MND caused by blue-green algae?

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

It is only occasional but on occasions they do pump from Lake Wyangan into the town water despite whatever condition the lake is in, simply because volume is required. Which is why most of us have fitted water filters, if we drink that stuff.
It is nonsensical because the lake is part of the drainage system from the irrigated farmland.

I have to ask though, is this where we are heading with our population (growth) exceeding our infrastructure capacity to water them with?

I’m always in mind of how long we took to pollute the tank stream.

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Date: 12/02/2019 22:54:11
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1345182
Subject: re: MND caused by blue-green algae?

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

It is only occasional but on occasions they do pump from Lake Wyangan into the town water despite whatever condition the lake is in, simply because volume is required. Which is why most of us have fitted water filters, if we drink that stuff.
It is nonsensical because the lake is part of the drainage system from the irrigated farmland.

I have to ask though, is this where we are heading with our population (growth) exceeding our infrastructure capacity to water them with?

Unfortunately it is, from the days of Warragamba Dam, in 1960, at the very latest. That water should be flowing westwards to where it is really needed. There is sufficient unused underground water in the Hunter system to supply Sydney and Newcastle without diverting water in the wrong direction.

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Date: 12/02/2019 22:56:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 1345183
Subject: re: MND caused by blue-green algae?

mollwollfumble said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

It is only occasional but on occasions they do pump from Lake Wyangan into the town water despite whatever condition the lake is in, simply because volume is required. Which is why most of us have fitted water filters, if we drink that stuff.
It is nonsensical because the lake is part of the drainage system from the irrigated farmland.

I have to ask though, is this where we are heading with our population (growth) exceeding our infrastructure capacity to water them with?

Unfortunately it is, from the days of Warragamba Dam, in 1960, at the very latest. That water should be flowing westwards to where it is really needed. There is sufficient unused underground water in the Hunter system to supply Sydney and Newcastle without diverting water in the wrong direction.

The real story is that we have already flogged the guts out of it. It is too late. All the profiteers need to fuck off and do something else somewhere else,for quite a long time.

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