Date: 14/02/2019 16:01:57
From: dv
ID: 1345964
Subject: 5% increase in leaf area since 2001
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/13/world/china-india-greener-planet-scli-intl/index.html
The Earth is facing a climate crisis, but it’s also getting greener and leafier. According to new research, the rise is largely courtesy of China and India.
A study by NASA, based on extensive satellite imagery and published in the journal Nature Sustainability, has revealed that the two countries with the world’s biggest populations are also responsible for the largest increase in green foliage.
Since the turn of the new millennium, the planet’s green leaf area has increased by 5%, or over two million square miles. That’s an area equivalent to the sum total of the Amazon rainforests, NASA says. But researchers stressed that the new greenery does not neutralize deforestation and its negative impacts on ecosystems elsewhere.
A third of the leaf increase is attributable to China and India, due to the implementation of major tree planting projects alongside a vast increase in agriculture.
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Date: 14/02/2019 16:04:45
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1345968
Subject: re: 5% increase in leaf area since 2001
dv said:
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/13/world/china-india-greener-planet-scli-intl/index.html
The Earth is facing a climate crisis, but it’s also getting greener and leafier. According to new research, the rise is largely courtesy of China and India.
A study by NASA, based on extensive satellite imagery and published in the journal Nature Sustainability, has revealed that the two countries with the world’s biggest populations are also responsible for the largest increase in green foliage.
Since the turn of the new millennium, the planet’s green leaf area has increased by 5%, or over two million square miles. That’s an area equivalent to the sum total of the Amazon rainforests, NASA says. But researchers stressed that the new greenery does not neutralize deforestation and its negative impacts on ecosystems elsewhere.
A third of the leaf increase is attributable to China and India, due to the implementation of major tree planting projects alongside a vast increase in agriculture.
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And the rise in co2?
Date: 14/02/2019 16:05:24
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1345969
Subject: re: 5% increase in leaf area since 2001
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/13/world/china-india-greener-planet-scli-intl/index.html
The Earth is facing a climate crisis, but it’s also getting greener and leafier. According to new research, the rise is largely courtesy of China and India.
A study by NASA, based on extensive satellite imagery and published in the journal Nature Sustainability, has revealed that the two countries with the world’s biggest populations are also responsible for the largest increase in green foliage.
Since the turn of the new millennium, the planet’s green leaf area has increased by 5%, or over two million square miles. That’s an area equivalent to the sum total of the Amazon rainforests, NASA says. But researchers stressed that the new greenery does not neutralize deforestation and its negative impacts on ecosystems elsewhere.
A third of the leaf increase is attributable to China and India, due to the implementation of major tree planting projects alongside a vast increase in agriculture.
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And the rise in co2?
still rising.
Date: 14/02/2019 16:05:42
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1345970
Subject: re: 5% increase in leaf area since 2001
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/13/world/china-india-greener-planet-scli-intl/index.html
The Earth is facing a climate crisis, but it’s also getting greener and leafier. According to new research, the rise is largely courtesy of China and India.
A study by NASA, based on extensive satellite imagery and published in the journal Nature Sustainability, has revealed that the two countries with the world’s biggest populations are also responsible for the largest increase in green foliage.
Since the turn of the new millennium, the planet’s green leaf area has increased by 5%, or over two million square miles. That’s an area equivalent to the sum total of the Amazon rainforests, NASA says. But researchers stressed that the new greenery does not neutralize deforestation and its negative impacts on ecosystems elsewhere.
A third of the leaf increase is attributable to China and India, due to the implementation of major tree planting projects alongside a vast increase in agriculture.
—-
And the rise in co2?
Yep, NASA said that in a press release about six months ago.
Date: 14/02/2019 16:09:35
From: dv
ID: 1345978
Subject: re: 5% increase in leaf area since 2001
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/13/world/china-india-greener-planet-scli-intl/index.html
The Earth is facing a climate crisis, but it’s also getting greener and leafier. According to new research, the rise is largely courtesy of China and India.
A study by NASA, based on extensive satellite imagery and published in the journal Nature Sustainability, has revealed that the two countries with the world’s biggest populations are also responsible for the largest increase in green foliage.
Since the turn of the new millennium, the planet’s green leaf area has increased by 5%, or over two million square miles. That’s an area equivalent to the sum total of the Amazon rainforests, NASA says. But researchers stressed that the new greenery does not neutralize deforestation and its negative impacts on ecosystems elsewhere.
A third of the leaf increase is attributable to China and India, due to the implementation of major tree planting projects alongside a vast increase in agriculture.
—-
And the rise in co2?
https://www.earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/144540/china-and-india-lead-the-way-in-greening
“This long-term data lets us dig deeper,” said Rama Nemani, a research scientist at NASA’s Ames Research Center and a co-author of the study. “When the greening of the Earth was first observed, we thought it was due to a warmer, wetter climate and fertilization from the added carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Now with the MODIS data, we see that humans are also contributing.”
Given that she says “also”, I suppose it is implied that the other reasons are still a factor (warmer, wetter climate and added CO2).
There’s significantly more leaf cover in Siberia and northern Canada, and presumably that’s due to warming and CO2 increase.

Date: 14/02/2019 17:19:13
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1346074
Subject: re: 5% increase in leaf area since 2001
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/13/world/china-india-greener-planet-scli-intl/index.html
The Earth is facing a climate crisis, but it’s also getting greener and leafier. According to new research, the rise is largely courtesy of China and India.
A study by NASA, based on extensive satellite imagery and published in the journal Nature Sustainability, has revealed that the two countries with the world’s biggest populations are also responsible for the largest increase in green foliage.
Since the turn of the new millennium, the planet’s green leaf area has increased by 5%, or over two million square miles. That’s an area equivalent to the sum total of the Amazon rainforests, NASA says. But researchers stressed that the new greenery does not neutralize deforestation and its negative impacts on ecosystems elsewhere.
A third of the leaf increase is attributable to China and India, due to the implementation of major tree planting projects alongside a vast increase in agriculture.
—-
And the rise in co2?
https://www.earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/144540/china-and-india-lead-the-way-in-greening
“This long-term data lets us dig deeper,” said Rama Nemani, a research scientist at NASA’s Ames Research Center and a co-author of the study. “When the greening of the Earth was first observed, we thought it was due to a warmer, wetter climate and fertilization from the added carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Now with the MODIS data, we see that humans are also contributing.”
Given that she says “also”, I suppose it is implied that the other reasons are still a factor (warmer, wetter climate and added CO2).
There’s significantly more leaf cover in Siberia and northern Canada, and presumably that’s due to warming and CO2 increase.

The lack of wildfires due to increased human habitation and prevention might have something to do with it too.
Date: 14/02/2019 17:24:05
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1346088
Subject: re: 5% increase in leaf area since 2001
PermeateFree said:
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
And the rise in co2?
https://www.earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/144540/china-and-india-lead-the-way-in-greening
“This long-term data lets us dig deeper,” said Rama Nemani, a research scientist at NASA’s Ames Research Center and a co-author of the study. “When the greening of the Earth was first observed, we thought it was due to a warmer, wetter climate and fertilization from the added carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Now with the MODIS data, we see that humans are also contributing.”
Given that she says “also”, I suppose it is implied that the other reasons are still a factor (warmer, wetter climate and added CO2).
There’s significantly more leaf cover in Siberia and northern Canada, and presumably that’s due to warming and CO2 increase.

The lack of wildfires due to increased human habitation and prevention might have something to do with it too.
I wonder about that. Have you ever seen any data on the effect of climate on wildfires and the effect of wildfires on climate?
Date: 14/02/2019 17:41:46
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1346108
Subject: re: 5% increase in leaf area since 2001
mollwollfumble said:
PermeateFree said:
dv said:
https://www.earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/144540/china-and-india-lead-the-way-in-greening
“This long-term data lets us dig deeper,” said Rama Nemani, a research scientist at NASA’s Ames Research Center and a co-author of the study. “When the greening of the Earth was first observed, we thought it was due to a warmer, wetter climate and fertilization from the added carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Now with the MODIS data, we see that humans are also contributing.”
Given that she says “also”, I suppose it is implied that the other reasons are still a factor (warmer, wetter climate and added CO2).
There’s significantly more leaf cover in Siberia and northern Canada, and presumably that’s due to warming and CO2 increase.

The lack of wildfires due to increased human habitation and prevention might have something to do with it too.
I wonder about that. Have you ever seen any data on the effect of climate on wildfires and the effect of wildfires on climate?
Not data just observation. Look at the map of Australia and the areas with most additional leaf area are in heavily forested areas or near human settlements.
Date: 14/02/2019 23:31:56
From: Kothos
ID: 1346405
Subject: re: 5% increase in leaf area since 2001
Does this provide negative feedback to global warming?
Date: 14/02/2019 23:34:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 1346412
Subject: re: 5% increase in leaf area since 2001
Kothos said:
Does this provide negative feedback to global warming?
No.
Date: 14/02/2019 23:51:51
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1346420
Subject: re: 5% increase in leaf area since 2001
Didn’t I read here that the growth is sappy growth. The type that would be attacked by insects if the insects weren’t all disappearing? The type of growth that won’t sustain the hard patches…
Date: 14/02/2019 23:53:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 1346423
Subject: re: 5% increase in leaf area since 2001
sarahs mum said:
Didn’t I read here that the growth is sappy growth. The type that would be attacked by insects if the insects weren’t all disappearing? The type of growth that won’t sustain the hard patches…
all growth is sappy, yes.
Date: 14/02/2019 23:54:55
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1346425
Subject: re: 5% increase in leaf area since 2001
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
Didn’t I read here that the growth is sappy growth. The type that would be attacked by insects if the insects weren’t all disappearing? The type of growth that won’t sustain the hard patches…
all growth is sappy, yes.
I know you know what I mean.
Date: 15/02/2019 00:09:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 1346426
Subject: re: 5% increase in leaf area since 2001
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
Didn’t I read here that the growth is sappy growth. The type that would be attacked by insects if the insects weren’t all disappearing? The type of growth that won’t sustain the hard patches…
all growth is sappy, yes.
I know you know what I mean.
We could call it a plateau, if you like.
Date: 15/02/2019 00:38:39
From: dv
ID: 1346429
Subject: re: 5% increase in leaf area since 2001
Kothos said:
Does this provide negative feedback to global warming?
Feedback may not be the right term but certainly reforestation sucks up some CO2.
Date: 15/02/2019 00:40:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 1346431
Subject: re: 5% increase in leaf area since 2001
dv said:
Kothos said:
Does this provide negative feedback to global warming?
Feedback may not be the right term but certainly reforestation sucks up some CO2.
Trees are the real shit man.
Date: 15/02/2019 00:57:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 1346433
Subject: re: 5% increase in leaf area since 2001
roughbarked said:
dv said:
Kothos said:
Does this provide negative feedback to global warming?
Feedback may not be the right term but certainly reforestation sucks up some CO2.
Trees are the real shit man.
and if you don’t get this, you cannot realise what scarred or marked trees, have to offer.
Date: 15/02/2019 01:12:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 1346434
Subject: re: 5% increase in leaf area since 2001
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
dv said:
Feedback may not be the right term but certainly reforestation sucks up some CO2.
Trees are the real shit man.
and if you don’t get this, you cannot realise what scarred or marked trees, have to offer.
and if this is all beyond you, the trees have informed me that you are all fucked. Long before you can actually get the message.
The minute that you actually pay attention to trees and the realistic part they play, you might start thinking about why they are not the green thing that stands in your way.
Date: 15/02/2019 01:18:49
From: roughbarked
ID: 1346435
Subject: re: 5% increase in leaf area since 2001
dv said:
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/13/world/china-india-greener-planet-scli-intl/index.html
The Earth is facing a climate crisis, but it’s also getting greener and leafier. According to new research, the rise is largely courtesy of China and India.
A study by NASA, based on extensive satellite imagery and published in the journal Nature Sustainability, has revealed that the two countries with the world’s biggest populations are also responsible for the largest increase in green foliage.
Since the turn of the new millennium, the planet’s green leaf area has increased by 5%, or over two million square miles. That’s an area equivalent to the sum total of the Amazon rainforests, NASA says. But researchers stressed that the new greenery does not neutralize deforestation and its negative impacts on ecosystems elsewhere.
A third of the leaf increase is attributable to China and India, due to the implementation of major tree planting projects alongside a vast increase in agriculture.
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the whole concept of greener and leafier can possibly be called to acount.
Or would you prefer that I started calling this thread bullshit?
Date: 15/02/2019 01:24:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 1346436
Subject: re: 5% increase in leaf area since 2001
dv said:
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/13/world/china-india-greener-planet-scli-intl/index.html
The Earth is facing a climate crisis, but it’s also getting greener and leafier. According to new research, the rise is largely courtesy of China and India.
A study by NASA, based on extensive satellite imagery and published in the journal Nature Sustainability, has revealed that the two countries with the world’s biggest populations are also responsible for the largest increase in green foliage.
If the land has the water to support the people, it stands to reason that it has the leaves to do so.
This science is as dumb as it sounds.
Date: 15/02/2019 01:36:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 1346437
Subject: re: 5% increase in leaf area since 2001
roughbarked said:
dv said:
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/13/world/china-india-greener-planet-scli-intl/index.html
The Earth is facing a climate crisis, but it’s also getting greener and leafier. According to new research, the rise is largely courtesy of China and India.
A study by NASA, based on extensive satellite imagery and published in the journal Nature Sustainability, has revealed that the two countries with the world’s biggest populations are also responsible for the largest increase in green foliage.
If the land has the water to support the people, it stands to reason that it has the leaves to do so.
This science is as dumb as it sounds.
I do mean. Grow up you smart are scienist people. There is no way you can make the prepackaged food thing go on any longer. We are never going too be able to make any planet work while we are fucking up this one.
Date: 15/02/2019 01:41:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 1346439
Subject: re: 5% increase in leaf area since 2001
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
dv said:
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/13/world/china-india-greener-planet-scli-intl/index.html
The Earth is facing a climate crisis, but it’s also getting greener and leafier. According to new research, the rise is largely courtesy of China and India.
A study by NASA, based on extensive satellite imagery and published in the journal Nature Sustainability, has revealed that the two countries with the world’s biggest populations are also responsible for the largest increase in green foliage.
If the land has the water to support the people, it stands to reason that it has the leaves to do so.
This science is as dumb as it sounds.
I do mean. Grow up you smart arse scienist people. There is no way you can make the prepackaged food thing go on any longer. We are never going too be able to make any planet work while we are fucking up this one.
can you figure out where i’d put the s that I missed?
Date: 15/02/2019 01:46:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 1346440
Subject: re: 5% increase in leaf area since 2001
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
If the land has the water to support the people, it stands to reason that it has the leaves to do so.
This science is as dumb as it sounds.
I do mean. Grow up you smart arse scienist people. There is no way you can make the prepackaged food thing go on any longer. We are never going too be able to make any planet work while we are fucking up this one.
can you figure out where i’d put the s that I missed?
or the t?
Anyway
It is good for us to know about our universe and all that. All science is good but if anyone could please explain why nobody ever listens on planet earth ….