Ya see, I’ve got this tubeless tyre on a wheel, ya see. Tiz the tiny pivot wheel on the front of the zero turn.

Well, ya see, it keeps going flat. Pretty quick. let’s say, overnight.. Took me while to get the tyre to “grab” the wheel when pumping it up, but it does grab.

Then Ize dun dunk it in water, and then the soapy water test, and there’s fizzing bubbles right around the rim/tyre join.

Now you lot, and your wise wisdom.

Wadda I need to do to sort it.

Oh…. no leak in the actual tyre itself. Just around the rims.

Taa for asking.

Tractor, bicycle, car, other?

Did you clean and lubricate the edge of the rim before attempting to pump it up?

Woodie said:

Ya see, I’ve got this tubeless tyre on a wheel, ya see. Tiz the tiny pivot wheel on the front of the zero turn.

Well, ya see, it keeps going flat. Pretty quick. let’s say, overnight.. Took me while to get the tyre to “grab” the wheel when pumping it up, but it does grab.

Then Ize dun dunk it in water, and then the soapy water test, and there’s fizzing bubbles right around the rim/tyre join.

Now you lot, and your wise wisdom.

Wadda I need to do to sort it.

Oh…. no leak in the actual tyre itself. Just around the rims.

Taa for asking.

probably get a sealant from an auto shop.

ChrispenEvan said:

Woodie said:

Ya see, I’ve got this tubeless tyre on a wheel, ya see. Tiz the tiny pivot wheel on the front of the zero turn.

Well, ya see, it keeps going flat. Pretty quick. let’s say, overnight.. Took me while to get the tyre to “grab” the wheel when pumping it up, but it does grab.

Then Ize dun dunk it in water, and then the soapy water test, and there’s fizzing bubbles right around the rim/tyre join.

Now you lot, and your wise wisdom.

Wadda I need to do to sort it.

Oh…. no leak in the actual tyre itself. Just around the rims.

Taa for asking.

probably get a sealant from an auto shop.

Yes.

Take the wheel off and into the tyre shop. Get them to fix it. Cheap and easy.

poikilotherm said:

Tractor, bicycle, car, other?

About a 6 inch pivot wheel on the front of a zero turn mower.

roughbarked said:

Did you clean and lubricate the edge of the rim before attempting to pump it up?

Nup. Clean with what? Dettol and wire brush? :) Lubricate with what?

Woodie said:

poikilotherm said:

Tractor, bicycle, car, other?

About a 6 inch pivot wheel on the front of a zero turn mower.

Get some car tyre sealant or ‘slime’ I think it’s called, can go in through the valve thingy.

Michael V said:

Take the wheel off and into the tyre shop. Get them to fix it. Cheap and easy.

The wheel is off and is now on the garage floor. (via the laundry trough bubble test).

poikilotherm said:

Woodie said:

poikilotherm said:

Tractor, bicycle, car, other?

About a 6 inch pivot wheel on the front of a zero turn mower.

Get some car tyre sealant or ‘slime’ I think it’s called, can go in through the valve thingy.

Blue Goo.

Woodie said:

roughbarked said:

Did you clean and lubricate the edge of the rim before attempting to pump it up?

Nup. Clean with what? Dettol and wire brush? :) Lubricate with what?

Have you ever watched the tyre blokes fit a tyre?

roughbarked said:

Woodie said:

roughbarked said:

Did you clean and lubricate the edge of the rim before attempting to pump it up?

Nup. Clean with what? Dettol and wire brush? :) Lubricate with what?

Have you ever watched the tyre blokes fit a tyre?

https://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/tubeless-tire-mounting-and-repair

Oh….. and you lot might be intrigued, curious or even pleased to know that the power steering hydraulic fluid does not appear to be leaking into the engine sump any more. */fixed

Oh…. and the front wheels don’t appear to want to fall off any more either.

Woodie said:

Oh….. and you lot might be intrigued, curious or even pleased to know that the power steering hydraulic fluid does not appear to be leaking into the engine sump any more. */fixed

Oh…. and the front wheels don’t appear to want to fall off any more either.

What did you use? superglue?

ChrispenEvan said:

Woodie said:

Ya see, I’ve got this tubeless tyre on a wheel, ya see. Tiz the tiny pivot wheel on the front of the zero turn.

Well, ya see, it keeps going flat. Pretty quick. let’s say, overnight.. Took me while to get the tyre to “grab” the wheel when pumping it up, but it does grab.

Then Ize dun dunk it in water, and then the soapy water test, and there’s fizzing bubbles right around the rim/tyre join.

Now you lot, and your wise wisdom.

Wadda I need to do to sort it.

Oh…. no leak in the actual tyre itself. Just around the rims.

Taa for asking.

probably get a sealant from an auto shop.

Could go and ask in the auto spares shop that directly across the street, I suppose.

roughbarked said:

Woodie said:

roughbarked said:

Did you clean and lubricate the edge of the rim before attempting to pump it up?

Nup. Clean with what? Dettol and wire brush? :) Lubricate with what?

Have you ever watched the tyre blokes fit a tyre?

Nup. But I’ve watched them swipe my credit card, though.

Woodie said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Woodie said:

Ya see, I’ve got this tubeless tyre on a wheel, ya see. Tiz the tiny pivot wheel on the front of the zero turn.

Well, ya see, it keeps going flat. Pretty quick. let’s say, overnight.. Took me while to get the tyre to “grab” the wheel when pumping it up, but it does grab.

Then Ize dun dunk it in water, and then the soapy water test, and there’s fizzing bubbles right around the rim/tyre join.

Now you lot, and your wise wisdom.

Wadda I need to do to sort it.

Oh…. no leak in the actual tyre itself. Just around the rims.

Taa for asking.

probably get a sealant from an auto shop.

Could go and ask in the auto spares shop that directly across the street, I suppose.

That would seem the smart tning to do.

Woodie said:

Oh….. and you lot might be intrigued, curious or even pleased to know that the power steering hydraulic fluid does not appear to be leaking into the engine sump any more. */fixed

Oh…. and the front wheels don’t appear to want to fall off any more either.

On the tractor, that is.

Woodie said:

roughbarked said:

Woodie said:

Nup. Clean with what? Dettol and wire brush? :) Lubricate with what?

Have you ever watched the tyre blokes fit a tyre?

Nup. But I’ve watched them swipe my credit card, though.

Yes. They do that too.

roughbarked said:

Woodie said:

Oh….. and you lot might be intrigued, curious or even pleased to know that the power steering hydraulic fluid does not appear to be leaking into the engine sump any more. */fixed

Oh…. and the front wheels don’t appear to want to fall off any more either.

What did you use? superglue?

New/replacement hydraulic pump, and different nuts and washers on the wheels.

Woodie said:

roughbarked said:

Woodie said:

Oh….. and you lot might be intrigued, curious or even pleased to know that the power steering hydraulic fluid does not appear to be leaking into the engine sump any more. */fixed

Oh…. and the front wheels don’t appear to want to fall off any more either.

What did you use? superglue?

New/replacement hydraulic pump, and different nuts and washers on the wheels.

under warranty?

roughbarked said:

Did you clean and lubricate the edge of the rim before attempting to pump it up?

definite semi here…

roughbarked said:

Woodie said:

roughbarked said:

What did you use? superglue?

New/replacement hydraulic pump, and different nuts and washers on the wheels.

under warranty?

yep.

Same thing happened on my ride on mower, pain in the arse, and once down my little pump didn’t have the power to reinflate quick enough to seal, simple solution was to take it down to the local garage and have tubes put in.

AwesomeO said:

Same thing happened on my ride on mower, pain in the arse, and once down my little pump didn’t have the power to reinflate quick enough to seal, simple solution was to take it down to the local garage and have tubes put in.

That was my solution too.

Dropbear said:

roughbarked said:

Did you clean and lubricate the edge of the rim before attempting to pump it up?

definite semi here…

ha

Woodie said:

Oh….. and you lot might be intrigued, curious or even pleased to know that the power steering hydraulic fluid does not appear to be leaking into the engine sump any more. */fixed

Oh…. and the front wheels don’t appear to want to fall off any more either.

Bwilliant!

Well done!

:)

Dropbear said:

roughbarked said:

Did you clean and lubricate the edge of the rim before attempting to pump it up?

definite semi here…

I don’t get it.

Michael V said:

Woodie said:

Oh….. and you lot might be intrigued, curious or even pleased to know that the power steering hydraulic fluid does not appear to be leaking into the engine sump any more. */fixed

Oh…. and the front wheels don’t appear to want to fall off any more either.

Bwilliant!

Well done!

:)

I said “appear too”…. as far as in a quick trundle down to the highway and back, and a cuppla sets a donuts and some lantana bulldozing down the bottom of the paddock.

Woodie said:

Michael V said:

Woodie said:

Oh….. and you lot might be intrigued, curious or even pleased to know that the power steering hydraulic fluid does not appear to be leaking into the engine sump any more. */fixed

Oh…. and the front wheels don’t appear to want to fall off any more either.

Bwilliant!

Well done!

:)

I said “appear too”…. as far as in a quick trundle down to the highway and back, and a cuppla sets a donuts and some lantana bulldozing down the bottom of the paddock.

By the time you have gone over and replaced/repaired/fixed/screwed tighter every component from front to rear, top to bottom, you will have a functioning reliable tractor.

Michael V said:

Dropbear said:

roughbarked said:

Did you clean and lubricate the edge of the rim before attempting to pump it up?

definite semi here…

I don’t get it.

they’re being rude.

ChrispenEvan said:

Michael V said:

Dropbear said:

definite semi here…

I don’t get it.

they’re being rude.

On this forum? That’s hard to believe. ;)

ChrispenEvan said:

Michael V said:

Dropbear said:

definite semi here…

I don’t get it.

they’re being rude.

Ah well. I still don’t get it. Don’t worry. I’m sure I don’t need to know.

Michael V said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Michael V said:

I don’t get it.

they’re being rude.

Ah well. I still don’t get it. Don’t worry. I’m sure I don’t need to know.

Tis for the best. if you knew you probably wouldn’t be able to post for 10 minutes.

Michael V said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Michael V said:

I don’t get it.

they’re being rude.

Ah well. I still don’t get it. Don’t worry. I’m sure I don’t need to know.

I love the beautiful innocence.. may it never fade or be sullied ;)

use to get a lot of flats on the ride-on, mostly front, lot of them were shards of blade going trough the walls. Tubes helped, + regular blade replacement. Was a lot better after five years of cleaning up, leveled the entire area, all the rocks gone too (tonnes), I could mow at maximum warp hard on the ground.

Oh dear. The Tabulam fire has gone back to Red “get the fuck outa there” alert again.

Dropbear said:

Michael V said:

ChrispenEvan said:

they’re being rude.

Ah well. I still don’t get it. Don’t worry. I’m sure I don’t need to know.

I love the beautiful innocence.. may it never fade or be sullied ;)

I can think of a Brave New World possible connection, but otherwise I’m as innocent at mv.

buffy said:

Dropbear said:

Michael V said:

Ah well. I still don’t get it. Don’t worry. I’m sure I don’t need to know.

I love the beautiful innocence.. may it never fade or be sullied ;)

I can think of a Brave New World possible connection, but otherwise I’m as innocent at mv.

Semi equals partial erection.

Fixing leaky welded stainless steel cube, with gaskets, portholes and cables through the portholes.

Compressed to nearly 1.5 atmospheres (later perhaps 2 atmospheres).

About 60 litres in volume.

Leaks at the rate of 1 litre per minute (or more).

Don’t know for sure where the leak is.

How to fix?

mollwollfumble said:

Fixing leaky welded stainless steel cube, with gaskets, portholes and cables through the portholes.

Compressed to nearly 1.5 atmospheres (later perhaps 2 atmospheres).

About 60 litres in volume.

Leaks at the rate of 1 litre per minute (or more).

Don’t know for sure where the leak is.

How to fix?

Wet your finger and run it around all the suspect areas. Having a wet finger makes it much easier to detect a bit of airflow.

mollwollfumble said:

Fixing leaky welded stainless steel cube, with gaskets, portholes and cables through the portholes.

Compressed to nearly 1.5 atmospheres (later perhaps 2 atmospheres).

About 60 litres in volume.

Leaks at the rate of 1 litre per minute (or more).

Don’t know for sure where the leak is.

How to fix?

Same as you do with tubes, put it in water. Or conversely fill it with water.

ChrispenEvan said:

Michael V said:

Dropbear said:

definite semi here…

I don’t get it.

they’re being rude.

The naughty naughty men. ;)

Woodie said:

Oh dear. The Tabulam fire has gone back to Red “get the fuck outa there” alert again.

That’s not good. I liked Tabulam as it was.

buffy said:

Dropbear said:

Michael V said:

Ah well. I still don’t get it. Don’t worry. I’m sure I don’t need to know.

I love the beautiful innocence.. may it never fade or be sullied ;)

I can think of a Brave New World possible connection, but otherwise I’m as innocent at mv.

Arnold Rimmer.

It’s all about getting the wheel and tyre mating surfaces really clean and smooth. The common enemies here are rust, dirt, flakey paint, and any other crap adhered to the internal edge of the wheel, or splits / cracks / damage to the tyre. Then slipping them together with pure soap & water, and holding them tight by putting enough air pressure in the tyre.

If that doesn’t work, your options are to fit a tube inside the wheel. You might also try to seal it with some kind of sealant goop (I wouldn’t).

As a low-speed, light-weight agricultural tyre, however, you also have the options of filling it with water, latex rubber, expanding foam, or there might be a solid rubber replacement.

Hope that helps.

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Dropbear said:

I love the beautiful innocence.. may it never fade or be sullied ;)

I can think of a Brave New World possible connection, but otherwise I’m as innocent at mv.

Arnold Rimmer.

https://i.imgur.com/MDADSDS.mp4

Dropbear said:

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

I can think of a Brave New World possible connection, but otherwise I’m as innocent at mv.

Arnold Rimmer.

https://i.imgur.com/MDADSDS.mp4

Good old Rimmer as reliable as a garden strimmer

Woodie said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Woodie said:

Ya see, I’ve got this tubeless tyre on a wheel, ya see. Tiz the tiny pivot wheel on the front of the zero turn.

Well, ya see, it keeps going flat. Pretty quick. let’s say, overnight.. Took me while to get the tyre to “grab” the wheel when pumping it up, but it does grab.

Then Ize dun dunk it in water, and then the soapy water test, and there’s fizzing bubbles right around the rim/tyre join.

Now you lot, and your wise wisdom.

Wadda I need to do to sort it.

Oh…. no leak in the actual tyre itself. Just around the rims.

Taa for asking.

probably get a sealant from an auto shop.

Could go and ask in the auto spares shop that directly across the street, I suppose.

Did that. Lotta good that did. They just told me to go to the tyre place next door.

Went to the tyre place next door, and they said sealing goo. But they don’t stock it or had any for sale.

AwesomeO said:

mollwollfumble said:

Fixing leaky welded stainless steel cube, with gaskets, portholes and cables through the portholes.

Compressed to nearly 1.5 atmospheres (later perhaps 2 atmospheres).

About 60 litres in volume.

Leaks at the rate of 1 litre per minute (or more).

Don’t know for sure where the leak is.

How to fix?

> Wet your finger and run it around all the suspect areas. Having a wet finger makes it much easier to detect a bit of airflow.

Same as you do with tubes, put it in water. Or conversely fill it with water.

Owner of said box put dry ice in it and used a CO2 meter outside to try and find the leak.

I thought a bit of bubble mixture in a spray bottle may be easier, but he said he didn’t want to get that near the gaskets.

With bit of luck, the problem is deflection of a too-thin plate. Also trying different types of sealing material.

mollwollfumble said:

Owner of said box put dry ice in it and used a CO2 meter outside to try and find the leak.

I thought a bit of bubble mixture in a spray bottle may be easier, but he said he didn’t want to get that near the gaskets.

With bit of luck, the problem is deflection of a too-thin plate. Also trying different types of sealing material.

Another way (this is how they detect leaks in swimming pools and aquariums) is to fill with water and work around the seals with a syringe full of food dye. When you release the dye near a leak, it’s very easy to see.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Woodie said:

Nup. Clean with what? Dettol and wire brush? :) Lubricate with what?

Have you ever watched the tyre blokes fit a tyre?

https://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/tubeless-tire-mounting-and-repair

P0PPing the Bead Back In Place on a Mower Tyre:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ0uqH4jat8

Have you got this sorted out yet, Woodie?

Rule 303 said:

Have you got this sorted out yet, Woodie?

On the list, Mr 303. On the list.

Had a tyre on our wheelbarrow that used to go flat. Did that a few times so I got fed-up with it and put in a new tube.
That also went flat.
Had a good look around the inside of the wheel for leaks and sharp points, only a few little protrusion that might have cut the tube, so I smoothed them off and fitted a new tube.
That also went flat.

So I fixed it properly by fitting a solid tyre. That one’s stayed up, but I still check it out of habit anyway.

Spiny Norman said:

Had a tyre on our wheelbarrow that used to go flat. Did that a few times so I got fed-up with it and put in a new tube.
That also went flat.
Had a good look around the inside of the wheel for leaks and sharp points, only a few little protrusion that might have cut the tube, so I smoothed them off and fitted a new tube.
That also went flat.

So I fixed it properly by fitting a solid tyre. That one’s stayed up, but I still check it out of habit anyway.

Oh yeah, reminds me, I had the back wheel on the scooter made solid. A tyre place sent it away and it came back solid, it was expensive though, about 50 bucks for a small tyre.

Woodie, I use tubeless tyres on my bicycle. Before putting the tyre on I add about 50-70ml of tyre sealant (I’ve been using Spex sealant, but there are others.) That seals the tyre bead (and make it much harder to remove the tyre later, because the sealant glues the bead to the rim) and stops leaking. It also seals (small) punctures when they happen. You should be able to get some at a bike shop.

Figgzed dit.

Didn’t need no goo either. Twas flat again. So just wet cloth and cleaned round inside the rim and where the tyre grips the rim.

Pumped it up, and did the dunk it in the laundry trough test. No bubbles.

Also did the soapy water test around the rim on each side and left for 20 mins. No bubbles. :)

FIGJAM. :)

Woodie said:

Figgzed dit.

Didn’t need no goo either. Twas flat again. So just wet cloth and cleaned round inside the rim and where the tyre grips the rim.

Pumped it up, and did the dunk it in the laundry trough test. No bubbles.

Also did the soapy water test around the rim on each side and left for 20 mins. No bubbles. :)

FIGJAM. :)

Told you to clean the rim. )