Date: 22/02/2019 16:19:10
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1350369
Subject: Rediscovered giant bee species
Something for Molls megafauna list?
>>Wallace’s giant bee, or Megachile pluto, is the largest known bee species in the world, measuring up to 3.8 cm (1.5 in) long and sporting a wingspan of 6.4 cm (2.6 in). That’s roughly four times the size of a European honeybee, and if that’s not impressive enough it brandishes a pair of huge mandibles like a stag beetle.<<
https://newatlas.com/wallaces-giant-bee-rediscovered/58550/
Date: 22/02/2019 16:21:25
From: Cymek
ID: 1350371
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Cool
Did bees or bee like insects exist in prehistoric Earth
Date: 22/02/2019 16:22:37
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1350372
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Could bees be bred in labs and taken out to nature?
Date: 22/02/2019 16:26:00
From: Cymek
ID: 1350373
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Tau.Neutrino said:
Could bees be bred in labs and taken out to nature?
Be hard I think might have to replicate hive
Date: 22/02/2019 16:31:43
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1350377
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Tau.Neutrino said:
Could bees be bred in labs and taken out to nature?
What is the minimum number of bees that can start a colony without a queen?
Date: 22/02/2019 16:32:13
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1350378
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Could bees be bred in labs and taken out to nature?
What is the minimum number of bees that can start a colony without a queen?
Can they do that or do they need a queen?
Date: 22/02/2019 16:33:51
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1350380
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
I wonder what flavor giant bee honey has?
Date: 22/02/2019 16:40:53
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1350381
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Cymek said:
Cool
Did bees or bee like insects exist in prehistoric Earth
Probably evolved soon after the development of flowering plants, so when the dinosaurs were running around.
Date: 22/02/2019 16:42:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350382
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Cymek said:
Cool
Did bees or bee like insects exist in prehistoric Earth
Not until flowers.
Date: 22/02/2019 16:43:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350383
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Could bees be bred in labs and taken out to nature?
What is the minimum number of bees that can start a colony without a queen?
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Date: 22/02/2019 16:43:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350384
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Tau.Neutrino said:
I wonder what flavor giant bee honey has?
Honey flavour.
Date: 22/02/2019 16:45:49
From: Tamb
ID: 1350387
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
I wonder what flavor giant bee honey has?
Honey flavour.
No. That’s like saying what flavour does wine have.
Date: 22/02/2019 16:49:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350388
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
I wonder what flavor giant bee honey has?
Honey flavour.
No. That’s like saying what flavour does wine have.
Wine is wine. You may be able to dectect specific flavours if it all comes off the one paddock. Same with hooney and since nobody has mentioned which flowers this giant bee forages on, how could any of us peven pontificate?
Date: 22/02/2019 16:52:34
From: furious
ID: 1350392
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
- No. That’s like saying what flavour does wine have.
It all tastes the same to me. Supposedly different plants in an area give different flavours, and other properties, to the honey but I’ve never noticed it. But, then, I don’t consume a lot of honey and when I do its probably that doctored stuff anyway…
Date: 22/02/2019 16:54:14
From: Tamb
ID: 1350395
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Honey flavour.
No. That’s like saying what flavour does wine have.
Wine is wine. You may be able to dectect specific flavours if it all comes off the one paddock. Same with hooney and since nobody has mentioned which flowers this giant bee forages on, how could any of us peven pontificate?
OK Good point.
Date: 22/02/2019 16:55:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350397
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
furious said:
- No. That’s like saying what flavour does wine have.
It all tastes the same to me. Supposedly different plants in an area give different flavours, and other properties, to the honey but I’ve never noticed it. But, then, I don’t consume a lot of honey and when I do its probably that doctored stuff anyway…
There is no way that Yellow Box honey is anything like Leatherwood honey. It is far superior anyway.
Manuka honey is known as jellybush honey in Australia and nobody wanted it before the Kiwi’s marketed it.
Date: 22/02/2019 17:00:11
From: Tamb
ID: 1350402
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
roughbarked said:
furious said:
- No. That’s like saying what flavour does wine have.
It all tastes the same to me. Supposedly different plants in an area give different flavours, and other properties, to the honey but I’ve never noticed it. But, then, I don’t consume a lot of honey and when I do its probably that doctored stuff anyway…
There is no way that Yellow Box honey is anything like Leatherwood honey. It is far superior anyway.
Manuka honey is known as jellybush honey in Australia and nobody wanted it before the Kiwi’s marketed it.
We get rainforest honey here. There are so many different plants flowering in a small area that the honey has many different flavours.
Date: 22/02/2019 17:03:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350403
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
furious said:
- No. That’s like saying what flavour does wine have.
It all tastes the same to me. …. I’ve never noticed it. But, then, I don’t consume a lot of honey and when I do it is probably that doctored stuff anyway…
Date: 22/02/2019 17:09:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350404
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
No. That’s like saying what flavour does wine have.
Wine is wine. You may be able to dectect specific flavours if it all comes off the one paddock. Same with hooney and since nobody has mentioned which flowers this giant bee forages on, how could any of us peven pontificate?
OK Good point.
Peven
Shakes head.
Date: 22/02/2019 17:16:24
From: Cymek
ID: 1350405
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
PermeateFree said:
Cymek said:
Cool
Did bees or bee like insects exist in prehistoric Earth
Probably evolved soon after the development of flowering plants, so when the dinosaurs were running around.
So with the higher oxygen content they may have been quite larger
Date: 22/02/2019 17:18:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350406
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
furious said:
- No. That’s like saying what flavour does wine have.
It all tastes the same to me. Supposedly different plants in an area give different flavours, and other properties, to the honey but I’ve never noticed it. But, then, I don’t consume a lot of honey and when I do its probably that doctored stuff anyway…
There is no way that Yellow Box honey is anything like Leatherwood honey. It is far superior anyway.
Manuka honey is known as jellybush honey in Australia and nobody wanted it before the Kiwi’s marketed it.
We get rainforest honey here. There are so many different plants flowering in a small area that the honey has many different flavours.
Hard to pick a single one.
Now what is required for honey to have a flavour is that the bees all come back to the hive and in their figure 8 dance they show where the yellow box are flowering. If so the honey bee which evolved to forage meadows and hedgerows, when it first arrived in Australia discovered unforseen caches of wealth which happened to be often many tens of metres above their known forage area but the stuff was so good, they never looked back. Though beware, don’t walk barefoot through the flowering clover patches.
Date: 22/02/2019 17:20:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350407
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Cymek said:
PermeateFree said:
Cymek said:
Cool
Did bees or bee like insects exist in prehistoric Earth
Probably evolved soon after the development of flowering plants, so when the dinosaurs were running around.
So with the higher oxygen content they may have been quite larger
A lot of bigger insects occur in rainforests.
Date: 22/02/2019 17:23:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350408
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:
PermeateFree said:
Probably evolved soon after the development of flowering plants, so when the dinosaurs were running around.
So with the higher oxygen content they may have been quite larger
A lot of bigger insects occur in rainforests.
One with an apt looking name is the Weta.
Date: 22/02/2019 17:23:28
From: Tamb
ID: 1350409
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:
PermeateFree said:
Probably evolved soon after the development of flowering plants, so when the dinosaurs were running around.
So with the higher oxygen content they may have been quite larger
A lot of bigger insects occur in rainforests.
Like this one
Date: 22/02/2019 17:26:46
From: Tamb
ID: 1350410
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:
So with the higher oxygen content they may have been quite larger
A lot of bigger insects occur in rainforests.
Like this one
!https://soulsongart.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/hercules-moth-2web.jpg
Oops, wrong image. Gives no idea of scale.
Date: 22/02/2019 17:26:50
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1350411
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
bees love trees and bushes and fields of flowers
city rooftops could be flower lined for pollination
Date: 22/02/2019 17:27:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350412
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Tau.Neutrino said:
bees love trees and bushes and fields of flowers
city rooftops could be flower lined for pollination
They are if you look.
Date: 22/02/2019 17:27:42
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1350413
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
We need to breed more bees.
Many reasons.
Date: 22/02/2019 17:29:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350414
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Tau.Neutrino said:
We need to breed more bees.
Many reasons.
We need to stop the advance of monoculture if we expect to keep bees.
Date: 22/02/2019 17:31:34
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1350415
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
I was going to pull out a bush in the garden but noticed lots of bees around it, so I left it there, while it flowered over a month or more the bees were there visiting this bush everyday, I would go out and sit on the steps in the sun and look at the bees going about their business. Very relaxing.
Date: 22/02/2019 17:32:42
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1350416
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
We need to breed more bees.
Many reasons.
We need to stop the advance of monoculture if we expect to keep bees.
We need to do a lot of things, list is getting very long now.
Date: 22/02/2019 17:35:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350417
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
We need to breed more bees.
Many reasons.
We need to stop the advance of monoculture if we expect to keep bees.
Sure we can truck bees from monoculture to monoculture. It does make a lot of sense if we took the bees to where they wanted to be rather than offering them only one crop and a pretty shitty one at that.
I recall being the field manager in one of several tree nurseries where that had been my role. This one had a crop of seed onions and bees trucked in to assist pollination. It wasn’t as if the bees arrived yesterday, they’d been there a while. The nursery workers had trouble walking up the road to get back for lunch or any break. I do think that panic was a part of it because I had no trouble.
It is true though that I have had a lot to do with bees and people and I have never seen bees go so ballistic for what would have seemed no reason. Presumably they’d have preferred some steak with their oniions?
Date: 22/02/2019 17:36:06
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1350418
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Cymek said:
PermeateFree said:
Cymek said:
Cool
Did bees or bee like insects exist in prehistoric Earth
Probably evolved soon after the development of flowering plants, so when the dinosaurs were running around.
So with the higher oxygen content they may have been quite larger
Maybe, but a number of other factors might be more important like habitat and food availability, competition, predators, etc., etc.
Date: 22/02/2019 17:36:23
From: Cymek
ID: 1350419
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Tau.Neutrino said:
I was going to pull out a bush in the garden but noticed lots of bees around it, so I left it there, while it flowered over a month or more the bees were there visiting this bush everyday, I would go out and sit on the steps in the sun and look at the bees going about their business. Very relaxing.
It is bees are interesting to watch
Date: 22/02/2019 17:36:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350420
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Tau.Neutrino said:
I was going to pull out a bush in the garden but noticed lots of bees around it, so I left it there, while it flowered over a month or more the bees were there visiting this bush everyday, I would go out and sit on the steps in the sun and look at the bees going about their business. Very relaxing.
Which bush and which bees. Photos or we’d be inclined to think that you had a smoke and went into a dream about how many bees would fill the Albert Hall.
Date: 22/02/2019 17:41:46
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1350422
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Tamb said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
A lot of bigger insects occur in rainforests.
Like this one
!https://soulsongart.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/hercules-moth-2web.jpg
Oops, wrong image. Gives no idea of scale.
Very impressive. Insects breath through small holes in their body called spiracles and warm humid conditions make this much easier and permit them to grow larger.
Date: 22/02/2019 17:46:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350424
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
We need to breed more bees.
Many reasons.
We need to stop the advance of monoculture if we expect to keep bees.
Sure we can truck bees from monoculture to monoculture. It does make a lot of sense if we took the bees to where they wanted to be rather than offering them only one crop and a pretty shitty one at that.
I recall being the field manager in one of several tree nurseries where that had been my role. This one had a crop of seed onions and bees trucked in to assist pollination. It wasn’t as if the bees arrived yesterday, they’d been there a while. The nursery workers had trouble walking up the road to get back for lunch or any break. I do think that panic was a part of it because I had no trouble.
It is true though that I have had a lot to do with bees and people and I have never seen bees go so ballistic for what would have seemed no reason. Presumably they’d have preferred some steak with their oniions?
Come to think of it and I do have correlation even if it is anecdotal.
Each of these backpackers used a lot of sunscreen. Something I have never used. Apart from one instance which also related to bees near hives. I’d probably mistakenly thought that If I rubbed some of Mrs rb’s smelly creamy stuff on my bare skin parts, the mossies wouldn’t bother my attempts to painstakingly transplant at least two or three thousand tiny native seedlings in a night. I walked past the bee hive I had there just on dusk and they came from everywhere to hit me. Bees really hate certain chemicals within any proximity of the hive. Apiarists keep themselves clean of scents and smoke that may upset bees.
Date: 22/02/2019 17:46:57
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1350425
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
I was going to pull out a bush in the garden but noticed lots of bees around it, so I left it there, while it flowered over a month or more the bees were there visiting this bush everyday, I would go out and sit on the steps in the sun and look at the bees going about their business. Very relaxing.
Which bush and which bees. Photos or we’d be inclined to think that you had a smoke and went into a dream about how many bees would fill the Albert Hall.
Not sure of either.
Can take a photo of bush and post it.
Date: 22/02/2019 17:48:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350426
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Tau.Neutrino said:
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
I was going to pull out a bush in the garden but noticed lots of bees around it, so I left it there, while it flowered over a month or more the bees were there visiting this bush everyday, I would go out and sit on the steps in the sun and look at the bees going about their business. Very relaxing.
Which bush and which bees. Photos or we’d be inclined to think that you had a smoke and went into a dream about how many bees would fill the Albert Hall.
Not sure of either.
Can take a photo of bush and post it.
Go ahead. If it is daylight and they are still in flower, you may catch a bee that may be distiguishable.
Date: 22/02/2019 17:49:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350427
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
roughbarked said:
Which bush and which bees. Photos or we’d be inclined to think that you had a smoke and went into a dream about how many bees would fill the Albert Hall.
Not sure of either.
Can take a photo of bush and post it.
Go ahead. If it is daylight and they are still in flower, you may catch a bee that may be distiguishable.
distinguish. hmm.
Date: 22/02/2019 17:55:01
From: Cymek
ID: 1350429
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Not sure of either.
Can take a photo of bush and post it.
Go ahead. If it is daylight and they are still in flower, you may catch a bee that may be distiguishable.
distinguish. hmm.
Would that be a bee wearing a top hat and a suit, very distinguished
Date: 22/02/2019 17:55:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350431
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Not sure of either.
Can take a photo of bush and post it.
Go ahead. If it is daylight and they are still in flower, you may catch a bee that may be distiguishable.
distinguish. hmm.
Date: 22/02/2019 17:58:23
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350432
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Go ahead. If it is daylight and they are still in flower, you may catch a bee that may be distiguishable.
distinguish. hmm.
Date: 22/02/2019 18:00:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350434
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
distinguish. hmm.
If you actually knew which nanosecond to catch that last photo, you’d still be too slow.
Date: 22/02/2019 18:04:36
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1350436
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Here is the bush the bees were drawn to everyday while flowering, no purple flowers on it at the moment.
Date: 22/02/2019 18:05:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350437
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
There exist other blue bees which are cuckoos on other bees such as the blue banded bee and the teddybear bee perhaps.
Date: 22/02/2019 18:05:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350438
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Tau.Neutrino said:
Here is the bush the bees were drawn to everyday while flowering, no purple flowers on it at the moment.
Does it have purple flowers at other times?
Date: 22/02/2019 18:07:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350440
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Tau.Neutrino said:
Here is the bush the bees were drawn to everyday while flowering, no purple flowers on it at the moment.
Coneflower?
Date: 22/02/2019 18:08:49
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1350441
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Here is the bush the bees were drawn to everyday while flowering, no purple flowers on it at the moment.
Does it have purple flowers at other times?
Yes.
Date: 22/02/2019 18:10:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350442
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Tau.Neutrino said:
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Here is the bush the bees were drawn to everyday while flowering, no purple flowers on it at the moment.
Does it have purple flowers at other times?
Yes.
:)
Date: 22/02/2019 18:10:06
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1350443
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Here is the bush the bees were drawn to everyday while flowering, no purple flowers on it at the moment.
Coneflower?
It does have a coneflower.
Date: 22/02/2019 18:10:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350444
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Here is the bush the bees were drawn to everyday while flowering, no purple flowers on it at the moment.
Coneflower?
This one is almost purplish.. https://www.anbg.gov.au/gnp/interns-2004/isopogon-formosus.html
Date: 22/02/2019 18:16:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350447
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Tau.Neutrino said:
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Here is the bush the bees were drawn to everyday while flowering, no purple flowers on it at the moment.
Does it have purple flowers at other times?
Yes.
I seem to be aware that you think I’m stupid but remember, I did ask the appropriate questions. ;)
Date: 22/02/2019 18:25:40
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1350448
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
roughbarked said:
Does it have purple flowers at other times?
Yes.
I seem to be aware that you think I’m stupid but remember, I did ask the appropriate questions. ;)
You are not stupid, I was thinking you might have meant other shades of purple.
I will take photos of it when it flowers next.
Date: 22/02/2019 18:36:42
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1350452
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Tau.Neutrino said:
Here is the bush the bees were drawn to everyday while flowering, no purple flowers on it at the moment.
Looks like one of the Wormwoods from the Artemisia (genus), they make the spirit absinthe from some.
Date: 22/02/2019 18:37:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350454
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
PermeateFree said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Here is the bush the bees were drawn to everyday while flowering, no purple flowers on it at the moment.
Looks like one of the Wormwoods from the Artemisia (genus), they make the spirit absinthe from some.
Which doesn’t have purple flowers but I was only asking, like.
Date: 22/02/2019 18:39:32
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1350457
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Here is the bush the bees were drawn to everyday while flowering, no purple flowers on it at the moment.
Looks like one of the Wormwoods from the Artemisia (genus), they make the spirit absinthe from some.
Which doesn’t have purple flowers but I was only asking, like.
Depends on your idea of purple, plus peoples memories can be fickle. The foliage is very similar though.
Date: 22/02/2019 18:40:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350459
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
PermeateFree said:
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:
Looks like one of the Wormwoods from the Artemisia (genus), they make the spirit absinthe from some.
Which doesn’t have purple flowers but I was only asking, like.
Depends on your idea of purple, plus peoples memories can be fickle. The foliage is very similar though.
Indeed the eywitness is often the most unreliable.
Date: 22/02/2019 18:43:31
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1350460
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:
roughbarked said:
Which doesn’t have purple flowers but I was only asking, like.
Depends on your idea of purple, plus peoples memories can be fickle. The foliage is very similar though.
Indeed the eywitness is often the most unreliable.
There looks to be sessile daisy-like flowers on the plant in the photo.
Date: 22/02/2019 18:44:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350461
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
PermeateFree said:
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:
Depends on your idea of purple, plus peoples memories can be fickle. The foliage is very similar though.
Indeed the eywitness is often the most unreliable.
There looks to be sessile daisy-like flowers on the plant in the photo.
As I’ve been at pains to put as obliquely as possible, actually two different plants in the focus part of the image.
Date: 22/02/2019 18:48:52
From: buffy
ID: 1350467
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
furious said:
- No. That’s like saying what flavour does wine have.
It all tastes the same to me. Supposedly different plants in an area give different flavours, and other properties, to the honey but I’ve never noticed it. But, then, I don’t consume a lot of honey and when I do its probably that doctored stuff anyway…
Nah, leatherwood honey is very, very different.
Date: 22/02/2019 18:50:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350469
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
buffy said:
furious said:
- No. That’s like saying what flavour does wine have.
It all tastes the same to me. Supposedly different plants in an area give different flavours, and other properties, to the honey but I’ve never noticed it. But, then, I don’t consume a lot of honey and when I do its probably that doctored stuff anyway…
Nah, leatherwood honey is very, very different.
I think I tried to make that point, earlier. ;) when comparing it to yellow box.
Date: 22/02/2019 18:55:57
From: Michael V
ID: 1350476
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
buffy said:
furious said:
- No. That’s like saying what flavour does wine have.
It all tastes the same to me. Supposedly different plants in an area give different flavours, and other properties, to the honey but I’ve never noticed it. But, then, I don’t consume a lot of honey and when I do its probably that doctored stuff anyway…
Nah, leatherwood honey is very, very different.
Years ago, I had a drum of Sandalwood honey from northwestern NSW. It was delicious.
Date: 22/02/2019 18:57:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350478
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Michael V said:
buffy said:
furious said:
- No. That’s like saying what flavour does wine have.
It all tastes the same to me. Supposedly different plants in an area give different flavours, and other properties, to the honey but I’ve never noticed it. But, then, I don’t consume a lot of honey and when I do its probably that doctored stuff anyway…
Nah, leatherwood honey is very, very different.
Years ago, I had a drum of Sandalwood honey from northwestern NSW. It was delicious.
Very special taste there. A rare tastability moment too. You really had to be there at the time.
Date: 22/02/2019 18:59:40
From: buffy
ID: 1350483
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Michael V said:
buffy said:
furious said:
- No. That’s like saying what flavour does wine have.
It all tastes the same to me. Supposedly different plants in an area give different flavours, and other properties, to the honey but I’ve never noticed it. But, then, I don’t consume a lot of honey and when I do its probably that doctored stuff anyway…
Nah, leatherwood honey is very, very different.
Years ago, I had a drum of Sandalwood honey from northwestern NSW. It was delicious.
Sometimes I can get redgum honey (E. camaldulensis). We have a local beekeeper. It’s deeply coloured and definitely different in flavour from yellow box or clover honey.
Date: 22/02/2019 19:00:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350486
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
buffy said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:
Nah, leatherwood honey is very, very different.
Years ago, I had a drum of Sandalwood honey from northwestern NSW. It was delicious.
Sometimes I can get redgum honey (E. camaldulensis). We have a local beekeeper. It’s deeply coloured and definitely different in flavour from yellow box or clover honey.
It is indeed a very nice honey.
Date: 22/02/2019 19:02:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350489
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:
Years ago, I had a drum of Sandalwood honey from northwestern NSW. It was delicious.
Sometimes I can get redgum honey (E. camaldulensis). We have a local beekeeper. It’s deeply coloured and definitely different in flavour from yellow box or clover honey.
It is indeed a very nice honey.
It isn’t as strong as yellow box but that might be why many appreciate it so well.
Date: 22/02/2019 19:04:07
From: Arts
ID: 1350492
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
furious said:
- No. That’s like saying what flavour does wine have.
It all tastes the same to me. Supposedly different plants in an area give different flavours, and other properties, to the honey but I’ve never noticed it. But, then, I don’t consume a lot of honey and when I do its probably that doctored stuff anyway…
My friend likes to source local honey because she says it helps with her hay-fever.. I ddon’t know if that’s true or not but I had hear it before from someone else .. those bees must pack some good stuff in their honey
Date: 22/02/2019 19:05:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350494
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Arts said:
furious said:
- No. That’s like saying what flavour does wine have.
It all tastes the same to me. Supposedly different plants in an area give different flavours, and other properties, to the honey but I’ve never noticed it. But, then, I don’t consume a lot of honey and when I do its probably that doctored stuff anyway…
My friend likes to source local honey because she says it helps with her hay-fever.. I ddon’t know if that’s true or not but I had hear it before from someone else .. those bees must pack some good stuff in their honey
Probably isn’t hay. ;)
Date: 22/02/2019 19:08:43
From: buffy
ID: 1350498
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Sometimes I can get redgum honey (E. camaldulensis). We have a local beekeeper. It’s deeply coloured and definitely different in flavour from yellow box or clover honey.
It is indeed a very nice honey.
It isn’t as strong as yellow box but that might be why many appreciate it so well.
I disagree. I would rate, in order of strongness of flavour, clover last, yellow box next, and redgum as stronger than yellow box. Leatherwood is just completely different from every other honey.
Date: 22/02/2019 19:10:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350500
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
It is indeed a very nice honey.
It isn’t as strong as yellow box but that might be why many appreciate it so well.
I disagree. I would rate, in order of strongness of flavour, clover last, yellow box next, and redgum as stronger than yellow box. Leatherwood is just completely different from every other honey.
Fair. There isn’t a lot of difference. Yellow box is simply a honey flavour since is is named melliodora ffor a reason.
Date: 22/02/2019 19:13:22
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1350505
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
I wanted some honey from my hive, the apiarist was up for it but later said they had been at a pepper tree ( I can vouch for that, it used to hum with them) and said it was awful.
Date: 22/02/2019 19:14:10
From: buffy
ID: 1350506
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
It isn’t as strong as yellow box but that might be why many appreciate it so well.
I disagree. I would rate, in order of strongness of flavour, clover last, yellow box next, and redgum as stronger than yellow box. Leatherwood is just completely different from every other honey.
Fair. There isn’t a lot of difference. Yellow box is simply a honey flavour since is is named melliodora ffor a reason.
OK Latinistas…melliodora = sweet smelling?
Date: 22/02/2019 19:16:56
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1350508
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:
roughbarked said:
Indeed the eywitness is often the most unreliable.
There looks to be sessile daisy-like flowers on the plant in the photo.
As I’ve been at pains to put as obliquely as possible, actually two different plants in the focus part of the image.
I don’t think you are correct, there is only a single species in the photo and the flowers belong to it. You need to go back to the original full sized photo to see.
Date: 22/02/2019 19:17:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350509
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
I disagree. I would rate, in order of strongness of flavour, clover last, yellow box next, and redgum as stronger than yellow box. Leatherwood is just completely different from every other honey.
Fair. There isn’t a lot of difference. Yellow box is simply a honey flavour since is is named melliodora ffor a reason.
OK Latinistas…melliodora = sweet smelling?
smells of honey. melis.
Date: 22/02/2019 19:19:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350510
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
PermeateFree said:
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:
There looks to be sessile daisy-like flowers on the plant in the photo.
As I’ve been at pains to put as obliquely as possible, actually two different plants in the focus part of the image.
I don’t think you are correct, there is only a single species in the photo and the flowers belong to it. You need to go back to the original full sized photo to see.
I don’t have the original.
too pixellated to tell anything but wormwood was my first thought of the main bush.
Date: 22/02/2019 19:19:17
From: buffy
ID: 1350511
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
Fair. There isn’t a lot of difference. Yellow box is simply a honey flavour since is is named melliodora ffor a reason.
OK Latinistas…melliodora = sweet smelling?
smells of honey. melis.
melli is also just sweet. Diabetes mellitus. (Sweet tasting urine was one of the old ways of telling) Mellifluous – sweet music.
Date: 22/02/2019 19:20:18
From: Michael V
ID: 1350513
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
I disagree. I would rate, in order of strongness of flavour, clover last, yellow box next, and redgum as stronger than yellow box. Leatherwood is just completely different from every other honey.
Fair. There isn’t a lot of difference. Yellow box is simply a honey flavour since is is named melliodora ffor a reason.
OK Latinistas…melliodora = sweet smelling?
“Name origin:
Melliodora, from Latin melleus, honey, and odora, sweet or pleasant small, referring to nectar.”
http://wtlandcare.org/details/eucalyptus-melliodora/
Date: 22/02/2019 19:20:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350514
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
OK Latinistas…melliodora = sweet smelling?
smells of honey. melis.
melli is also just sweet. Diabetes mellitus. (Sweet tasting urine was one of the old ways of telling) Mellifluous – sweet music.
fair enough.
Date: 22/02/2019 19:21:07
From: Arts
ID: 1350515
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
smells of honey. melis.
melli is also just sweet. Diabetes mellitus. (Sweet tasting urine was one of the old ways of telling) Mellifluous – sweet music.
fair enough.
wait.. who would taste the urine?
Date: 22/02/2019 19:21:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 1350517
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
melli is also just sweet. Diabetes mellitus. (Sweet tasting urine was one of the old ways of telling) Mellifluous – sweet music.
fair enough.
wait.. who would taste the urine?
A urine taster?
Date: 22/02/2019 19:23:01
From: buffy
ID: 1350518
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
melli is also just sweet. Diabetes mellitus. (Sweet tasting urine was one of the old ways of telling) Mellifluous – sweet music.
fair enough.
wait.. who would taste the urine?
The doctors did. Believe it or not. Doctoring hasn’t always been nice and clean. In fact it is still pretty icky.
Date: 22/02/2019 19:24:19
From: buffy
ID: 1350520
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
And when I looked at that plant I wondered if it was Santolina (lavender cotton), which has yellow flowers. But I don’t think the leaves are quite right. I also thought of curry plant, but the leaves are definitely not right for that.
Date: 22/02/2019 19:25:50
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1350521
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
melli is also just sweet. Diabetes mellitus. (Sweet tasting urine was one of the old ways of telling) Mellifluous – sweet music.
fair enough.
wait.. who would taste the urine?
Bear Grylls
Date: 22/02/2019 19:30:15
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1350524
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
OK Latinistas…melliodora = sweet smelling?
smells of honey. melis.
melli is also just sweet. Diabetes mellitus. (Sweet tasting urine was one of the old ways of telling) Mellifluous – sweet music.
Origin of Name
Eucalyptus melliodora: Latin melleus, honey and odora, sweet smell, referring to the flowers.
http://keyserver.lucidcentral.org:8080/euclid/data/02050e02-0108-490e-8900-0e0601070d00/media/Html/Eucalyptus_melliodora.htm
Date: 22/02/2019 20:08:01
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1350538
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
PermeateFree said:
Something for Molls megafauna list?
>>Wallace’s giant bee, or Megachile pluto, is the largest known bee species in the world, measuring up to 3.8 cm (1.5 in) long and sporting a wingspan of 6.4 cm (2.6 in). That’s roughly four times the size of a European honeybee, and if that’s not impressive enough it brandishes a pair of huge mandibles like a stag beetle.<<
https://newatlas.com/wallaces-giant-bee-rediscovered/58550/
Like the size comparison with honey bee.
Found in northern Indonesia. Makes nest in termite mounds and lines it with resin, so I’m sure I wouldn’t like the taste of the honey.
“Search for lost species program”. https://www.lostspecies.org
Now that is something I wholeheartedly approve of.
Date: 22/02/2019 20:31:49
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1350563
Subject: re: Rediscovered giant bee species
mollwollfumble said:
PermeateFree said:
Something for Molls megafauna list?
>>Wallace’s giant bee, or Megachile pluto, is the largest known bee species in the world, measuring up to 3.8 cm (1.5 in) long and sporting a wingspan of 6.4 cm (2.6 in). That’s roughly four times the size of a European honeybee, and if that’s not impressive enough it brandishes a pair of huge mandibles like a stag beetle.<<
https://newatlas.com/wallaces-giant-bee-rediscovered/58550/
Like the size comparison with honey bee.
Found in northern Indonesia. Makes nest in termite mounds and lines it with resin, so I’m sure I wouldn’t like the taste of the honey.
“Search for lost species program”. https://www.lostspecies.org
Now that is something I wholeheartedly approve of.
“Global Wildlife Conservation has compiled a list of 1,200 species of animals and plants that are missing to science.”
Yike. That’s a lot.
Pp
How to get involved. https://www.lostspecies.org/join-the-search
When was the last thylacine sighting?
Other missing animals in Australia include:
- Lesser sticknest rat
- Lord Howe long-eared bat
- 10 species of pipefish
- Bullneck seahorse
- 2 species of sea snake
- Paradise parrot
- a turtle
Etc.
Some of these are believed extinct, but many are supposed to be still around.