Date: 3/03/2019 11:46:29
From: transition
ID: 1354739
Subject: machine of pretend

if you were born way back, before TV, you might have went to church, or sunday school.

learnt the ten commandments, acquainted yourself with God, probably not your first invisible friend, you might have had more devilish invisible friends when a toddler, sort of in the early years of learning impulse control. Your devilish friends since are well-acquainted with impulse control, and I bet you still have thoughts and feelings you don’t act on.

you could argue pretending to a relationship with God is pretending, and in your life considered what is real.

now my question of the modern world, related the quantity of media, TV, movies, social media, and the capacity to pretend to relationships that don’t exist. Or possibly don’t to the extent you believe, or might want to believe.

people engage in relationships all the time (apologies to hermits and committed recluses), and there’s a propensity for spin. I mean the american president and north korean leader are really good friends, for example.

If you’re on facebook you likely have lots of friends on your friends list, few that would give you a kidney if you needed it though.

you watch movies regularly perhaps, indulge the relationships (predicaments, whatever) of characters. And news reporters talk to you friendly. The advertisers are talking to you nice, they are your friends.

you may intrigue about politicians as if you have a relationship with them, and be busy suring up the reality you do, engaging with democracy, and the state.

has there ever been a time so, the capacity, and machines to help with pretending to relationships? Media, money, you know, these perform special things, for the advanced species.

so, the question’s about mass pretend friendly.

where’s it going?

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Date: 3/03/2019 12:05:02
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1354749
Subject: re: machine of pretend

I grew up with Sunday school and the TV. I liked the church because of the music and making peg doll Jesus’s.

Is the willingness to give a kidney a requirement for friendship?

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Date: 3/03/2019 12:44:09
From: transition
ID: 1354760
Subject: re: machine of pretend

sarahs mum said:


I grew up with Sunday school and the TV. I liked the church because of the music and making peg doll Jesus’s.

Is the willingness to give a kidney a requirement for friendship?

if I ever need one, and you have two healthy ones and you’re happy to do the tests to establish if we’re compatible, and we are, I may turn to you. You’re on my friends list.

generally no, and i’m in good health you should know.

imagine though, an army of pretend, what would the outcome of that be.

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Date: 3/03/2019 12:54:48
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1354762
Subject: re: machine of pretend

> the question’s about mass pretend friendly.

What do the words “have a nice day” mean to you?

> Where’s it going?

Fair question. I’ll think about it. I’ll also think about “pretend enemy”. For example Syria is the pretend enemy of the USA.

My initial reaction is that both pretend friendly and pretend enemy are artifacts generated by capitalism. Where’s it going then becomes a function of where capitalism is going.

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Date: 3/03/2019 13:00:32
From: transition
ID: 1354766
Subject: re: machine of pretend

>What do the words “have a nice day” mean to you?

generally in person, i’d take something like that just as it is, to mean exactly what it says.

of course there other things it might mean if the context is not friendly.

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Date: 3/03/2019 13:02:57
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1354767
Subject: re: machine of pretend

mollwollfumble said:


> the question’s about mass pretend friendly.

What do the words “have a nice day” mean to you?

> Where’s it going?

Fair question. I’ll think about it. I’ll also think about “pretend enemy”. For example Syria is the pretend enemy of the USA.

My initial reaction is that both pretend friendly and pretend enemy are artifacts generated by capitalism. Where’s it going then becomes a function of where capitalism is going.

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Date: 3/03/2019 13:06:06
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1354769
Subject: re: machine of pretend

Oops forgot to respond, to me “have a nice day” is a rote polite means of concluding a transaction or exchange, it means it is concluded, that both parties can disengage and doesn’t leave any abrupt cessation which could be considered curt and rude.

Of course if you want to seek offence it is also a declaration of world war three.

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Date: 3/03/2019 13:53:33
From: transition
ID: 1354810
Subject: re: machine of pretend

>Oops forgot to respond, to me “have a nice day” is a rote polite means of concluding a transaction or exchange, it means it is concluded, that both parties can disengage and doesn’t leave any abrupt cessation which

yeah certainly that of shop exchange sort of thing, though I go with you have a good day…..maybe say hello to … partner or whoever, or parents if kids.

it’s interesting you use the word transaction, because related I use the word transactional to mean perfunctory, sort of thing.

>could be considered curt and rude

weather talk’s meant to keep people out of trouble too, meant not to leave you wondering what this or that might have referred to, or could have meant.

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Date: 3/03/2019 18:07:04
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1354879
Subject: re: machine of pretend

transition said:


>What do the words “have a nice day” mean to you?

generally in person, i’d take something like that just as it is, to mean exactly what it says.

of course there other things it might mean if the context is not friendly.

Really?

To me it’s as fake as fake can be. A pretend friendship to make a customer, or social contact, think favourably of the person or business. To me it’s not fundamentally different to an upselling like “do you want fries with that?”.

As an actual result, because of the reciprocity of transactions, the person or machine saying it is wishing themselves a nice day.

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Date: 3/03/2019 18:17:19
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1354887
Subject: re: machine of pretend

mollwollfumble said:


transition said:

>What do the words “have a nice day” mean to you?

generally in person, i’d take something like that just as it is, to mean exactly what it says.

of course there other things it might mean if the context is not friendly.

Really?

To me it’s as fake as fake can be. A pretend friendship to make a customer, or social contact, think favourably of the person or business. To me it’s not fundamentally different to an upselling like “do you want fries with that?”.

As an actual result, because of the reciprocity of transactions, the person or machine saying it is wishing themselves a nice day.

It’s just a harmless social pleasantry.

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Date: 3/03/2019 18:23:13
From: transition
ID: 1354893
Subject: re: machine of pretend

there are so many examples of pretend it seems a ubiquitous phenomenon.

i’m reminded of the stories of ramped ambulances, at a new hospital. If you’ve been taken to a hospital and stuck outside, at some point the ambulance stops being an ambulance. It looks like a ambulance, but fails the purpose/function. These days you’re meant to be convinced by the appearance of it, especially if you’re stuck in one, there should be no issue.

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Date: 3/03/2019 19:21:39
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1354911
Subject: re: machine of pretend

Bubblecar said:


mollwollfumble said:

transition said:

>What do the words “have a nice day” mean to you?

generally in person, i’d take something like that just as it is, to mean exactly what it says.

of course there other things it might mean if the context is not friendly.

Really?

To me it’s as fake as fake can be. A pretend friendship to make a customer, or social contact, think favourably of the person or business. To me it’s not fundamentally different to an upselling like “do you want fries with that?”.

As an actual result, because of the reciprocity of transactions, the person or machine saying it is wishing themselves a nice day.

It’s just a harmless social pleasantry.

Americanism.

Bloody Americans badgering people into having a nice day. And they don’t care anyway. They are just told to do it and so they do.

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Date: 3/03/2019 19:25:06
From: btm
ID: 1354915
Subject: re: machine of pretend

sarahs mum said:


Americanism.

Bloody Americans badgering people into having a nice day. And they don’t care anyway. They are just told to do it and so they do.

Last time I was in America I really got into the cutlure. Someone in a convenience shop said, “Have a nice day!”, and I didn’t, so I sued him.

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Date: 3/03/2019 19:27:24
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1354917
Subject: re: machine of pretend

btm said:


sarahs mum said:

Americanism.

Bloody Americans badgering people into having a nice day. And they don’t care anyway. They are just told to do it and so they do.

Last time I was in America I really got into the cutlure. Someone in a convenience shop said, “Have a nice day!”, and I didn’t, so I sued him.

:)

Really irks me when I am down in the depression. I don’t notice it so much otherwise.

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Date: 3/03/2019 19:32:30
From: btm
ID: 1354919
Subject: re: machine of pretend

sarahs mum said:


btm said:

sarahs mum said:

Americanism.

Bloody Americans badgering people into having a nice day. And they don’t care anyway. They are just told to do it and so they do.

Last time I was in America I really got into the cutlure. Someone in a convenience shop said, “Have a nice day!”, and I didn’t, so I sued him.

:)

Really irks me when I am down in the depression. I don’t notice it so much otherwise.

Yep, that and “How are you?” asked as thought the interlocutor is interested.

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Date: 3/03/2019 19:32:48
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1354920
Subject: re: machine of pretend

There is no example which epitomises this camaraderie influencing the facts more than in the recent comments of political commentator Annabel Crabb, who, when asked about the unfolding events of the Helloworld scandal on the aptly named, Insiders program, said:

I don’t think that you could really make the point that there has been, you know, formal corruption or anything like that. The issue with this story is that it exposes a network of relationships that make anyone in the street go, ‘Oh, is that how it works?’ … I mean that is the bit of the Canberra bubble that people do legitimately find a bit ‘irky’.

one reason I think annabel crabb is a crap journo.

https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/editorial-excerpt-helloworld-and-other-informal-corruption,12422#.XHtYBT911jg.facebook

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Date: 3/03/2019 19:42:42
From: Michael V
ID: 1354923
Subject: re: machine of pretend

sarahs mum said:


btm said:

sarahs mum said:

Americanism.

Bloody Americans badgering people into having a nice day. And they don’t care anyway. They are just told to do it and so they do.

Last time I was in America I really got into the cutlure. Someone in a convenience shop said, “Have a nice day!”, and I didn’t, so I sued him.

:)

Really irks me when I am down in the depression. I don’t notice it so much otherwise.

Another like that is a food-server at a restaurant or cafe, plonking the food down and saying “Enjoy”.

Or coming around part-way through the meal and asking whether you are injoying it.

Both raise my hackles and my ire.

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Date: 3/03/2019 19:44:03
From: Michael V
ID: 1354924
Subject: re: machine of pretend

btm said:


sarahs mum said:

btm said:

Last time I was in America I really got into the cutlure. Someone in a convenience shop said, “Have a nice day!”, and I didn’t, so I sued him.

:)

Really irks me when I am down in the depression. I don’t notice it so much otherwise.

Yep, that and “How are you?” asked as thought the interlocutor is interested.

Nods.

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Date: 3/03/2019 19:52:40
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1354928
Subject: re: machine of pretend

btm said:


sarahs mum said:

btm said:

Last time I was in America I really got into the cutlure. Someone in a convenience shop said, “Have a nice day!”, and I didn’t, so I sued him.

:)

Really irks me when I am down in the depression. I don’t notice it so much otherwise.

Yep, that and “How are you?” asked as thought the interlocutor is interested.

Apparently a bit of an Australianism. Confuses Yanks.

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Date: 3/03/2019 20:34:09
From: Ian
ID: 1354946
Subject: re: machine of pretend

btm said:


sarahs mum said:

:)

Really irks me when I am down in the depression. I don’t notice it so much otherwise.

Yep, that and “How are you?” asked as thought the interlocutor is interested.

But the worst is “Hello.”

FAAARRKK!!

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