Date: 5/03/2019 04:22:26
From: kii
ID: 1355480
Subject: Haptic Baton

A conductor’s baton has been created that allows the visually-impaired to follow its movements, opening up the potential for blind people to join more orchestras.

Well, I found this very interesting.

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Date: 5/03/2019 04:46:16
From: Michael V
ID: 1355481
Subject: re: Haptic Baton

kii said:


A conductor’s baton has been created that allows the visually-impaired to follow its movements, opening up the potential for blind people to join more orchestras.

Well, I found this very interesting.

Nice work.

:)

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Date: 5/03/2019 05:02:07
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1355486
Subject: re: Haptic Baton

Michael V said:


kii said:

A conductor’s baton has been created that allows the visually-impaired to follow its movements, opening up the potential for blind people to join more orchestras.

Well, I found this very interesting.

Nice work.

:)

Knee jerk reaction. An orchestra plays better without a conductor. Because without a conductor they actually have to learn their parts.

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Date: 5/03/2019 05:23:53
From: Michael V
ID: 1355489
Subject: re: Haptic Baton

mollwollfumble said:


Michael V said:

kii said:

A conductor’s baton has been created that allows the visually-impaired to follow its movements, opening up the potential for blind people to join more orchestras.

Well, I found this very interesting.

Nice work.

:)

Knee jerk reaction. An orchestra plays better without a conductor. Because without a conductor they actually have to learn their parts.

OK, sorry I knee-jerked.

I wonder why blind musicians were reported by Reuters as endorsing the new tool?

Why do orchestras pay so much for conductors if they are worse than needless?

eg: “At the top of the list is the Philadelphia Orchestra, which paid chief conductor Charles Dutoit with $1.83 million. On its heels is the San Francisco Symphony, which gave Michael Tilson Thomas $1.8 million, and the Boston Symphony, giving James Levine $1.3 million. Jul 5, 2012”

“Orchestra Music Director Salaries Disclosed | WQXR Blog | WQXR

https://www.wqxr.org/story/220777-orchestra-music-director-salaries-disclosed/

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Date: 5/03/2019 06:23:03
From: kii
ID: 1355493
Subject: re: Haptic Baton

mollwollfumble said:


Michael V said:

kii said:

A conductor’s baton has been created that allows the visually-impaired to follow its movements, opening up the potential for blind people to join more orchestras.

Well, I found this very interesting.

Nice work.

:)

Knee jerk reaction. An orchestra plays better without a conductor. Because without a conductor they actually have to learn their parts.

Do they? I think it depends on a lot more than “learning their parts”.
I have never played in a proper orchestra (just primary school stuff), but the father of my sons played in various orchestras (Ku-ring-gai Phil. and a mandolin orchestra…Phil Skinner’s one) and I attended many small mandolin concerts and a few good-sized ones with the Ku-ring-gai group.

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Date: 5/03/2019 08:09:10
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1355510
Subject: re: Haptic Baton

kii said:


mollwollfumble said:

Michael V said:

Nice work.

:)

Knee jerk reaction. An orchestra plays better without a conductor. Because without a conductor they actually have to learn their parts.

Do they? I think it depends on a lot more than “learning their parts”.
I have never played in a proper orchestra (just primary school stuff), but the father of my sons played in various orchestras (Ku-ring-gai Phil. and a mandolin orchestra…Phil Skinner’s one) and I attended many small mandolin concerts and a few good-sized ones with the Ku-ring-gai group.

A conductor can make life much easier for a large orchestra in regard to everyone playing in time, starting at stopping when they’re supposed to, getting the balance of dynamics right etc.

But the main role of a conductor is to determine how the piece will be interpreted, which is generally worked out in rehearsals.

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Date: 5/03/2019 08:09:44
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1355511
Subject: re: Haptic Baton

starting at stopping = starting and stopping

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Date: 5/03/2019 10:16:32
From: transition
ID: 1355515
Subject: re: Haptic Baton

>But the main role of a conductor is to determine how the piece will be interpreted, which is generally worked out in rehearsals.

someone has to have a bigger picture, a more global view of any audience experience, an expert ear, and there’s continuity too.

always impresses me, a good movie, a book, newspaper article, or it could be a school teacher’s teaching efforts, whatever, where there’s an expert continuity, often where a substantial bulk of the work is.

my unexpert opinion

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Date: 5/03/2019 10:24:29
From: transition
ID: 1355516
Subject: re: Haptic Baton

transition said:


>But the main role of a conductor is to determine how the piece will be interpreted, which is generally worked out in rehearsals.

someone has to have a bigger picture, a more global view of any audience experience, an expert ear, and there’s continuity too.

always impresses me, a good movie, a book, newspaper article, or it could be a school teacher’s teaching efforts, whatever, where there’s an expert continuity, often where a substantial bulk of the work is.

my unexpert opinion

like everyone’s watched a movie that failed toward the end, they may have exhausted the budget, or were so enthused by an idea, that it failed as a composition, and really turned out worse than no idea at all.

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Date: 5/03/2019 10:44:29
From: transition
ID: 1355519
Subject: re: Haptic Baton

transition said:


transition said:

>But the main role of a conductor is to determine how the piece will be interpreted, which is generally worked out in rehearsals.

someone has to have a bigger picture, a more global view of any audience experience, an expert ear, and there’s continuity too.

always impresses me, a good movie, a book, newspaper article, or it could be a school teacher’s teaching efforts, whatever, where there’s an expert continuity, often where a substantial bulk of the work is.

my unexpert opinion

like everyone’s watched a movie that failed toward the end, they may have exhausted the budget, or were so enthused by an idea, that it failed as a composition, and really turned out worse than no idea at all.

i’m thinking the continuity of a composition goes a long way to delivering the theme.

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Date: 5/03/2019 11:45:40
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1355522
Subject: re: Haptic Baton

transition said:


transition said:

transition said:

>But the main role of a conductor is to determine how the piece will be interpreted, which is generally worked out in rehearsals.

someone has to have a bigger picture, a more global view of any audience experience, an expert ear, and there’s continuity too.

always impresses me, a good movie, a book, newspaper article, or it could be a school teacher’s teaching efforts, whatever, where there’s an expert continuity, often where a substantial bulk of the work is.

my unexpert opinion

like everyone’s watched a movie that failed toward the end, they may have exhausted the budget, or were so enthused by an idea, that it failed as a composition, and really turned out worse than no idea at all.

i’m thinking the continuity of a composition goes a long way to delivering the theme.

Yes, a conductor will have their own vision of how a piece ought to be performed (obviously worked out in conjunction with the composer, whether living or dead) to result in a coherent musical experience that does justice to all parts of the score.

They don’t necessarily always succeed.

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Date: 5/03/2019 11:57:52
From: Cymek
ID: 1355526
Subject: re: Haptic Baton

Apparently the baton is quite useful if one has to play pool/snooker in a space limited area

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Date: 5/03/2019 12:07:27
From: Tamb
ID: 1355529
Subject: re: Haptic Baton

Bubblecar said:


transition said:

transition said:

like everyone’s watched a movie that failed toward the end, they may have exhausted the budget, or were so enthused by an idea, that it failed as a composition, and really turned out worse than no idea at all.

i’m thinking the continuity of a composition goes a long way to delivering the theme.

Yes, a conductor will have their own vision of how a piece ought to be performed (obviously worked out in conjunction with the composer, whether living or dead) to result in a coherent musical experience that does justice to all parts of the score.

They don’t necessarily always succeed.


As evidenced by Daniel Barenboim with the Vienna Philharmonic.

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Date: 5/03/2019 14:55:40
From: dv
ID: 1355619
Subject: re: Haptic Baton

Approved

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Date: 5/03/2019 15:44:38
From: kii
ID: 1355641
Subject: re: Haptic Baton

dv said:


Approved

What?

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Date: 5/03/2019 15:50:03
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1355642
Subject: re: Haptic Baton

kii said:


dv said:

Approved

What?

approved
/əˈpruːvd/
adjective
officially agreed or accepted as satisfactory.
“places on approved courses, clothears”

:-)

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Date: 5/03/2019 15:54:49
From: kii
ID: 1355646
Subject: re: Haptic Baton

ChrispenEvan said:


kii said:

dv said:

Approved

What?

approved
/əˈpruːvd/
adjective
officially agreed or accepted as satisfactory.
“places on approved courses, clothears”

:-)

I know what he means…

Who crowned DV Post Approver?

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Date: 6/03/2019 03:39:46
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1355816
Subject: re: Haptic Baton

Q If you have two bullets, and you can shoot either the conductor or the oboe player first, whom do you choose?
A The conductor. Business before pleasure.

It is said that Jean-Baptiste Lully died of gangrene after stabbing himself with his own baton.

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