Home handyman help please.

I have to replace somewhere between 1 and 7 doors in the very near future. As well as 1 to 2 door frames and 1 to 3 door locks.

2 doors are person access to garage from yard. Both severely water damaged. New door frame for one or both of these.
Door 3 very similar but may need replacement because of loose lock.
Doors 4 to 6 are internal, but are driving me mad because they need to be soundproof and aren’t.
Door 7 is a back door to house, with cat flap, showing signs of weather damage.
Second door lock is a gate latch that is broken.

All doors are plain, apart from Door 7 that has a small window.

Solid core doors are expensive, heavy and hard to hang. Hollow core doors tend not to be soundproof or weather resistant.

Plain doors vary in price from $30 to $285 internal.
From $60 to $251 plain external.
From $157 to $342 external with small window.

Humes solicore?
https://www.humedoors.com.au/blog/solicore-honeycomb-core-or-solid-door/

“Solicore doors are designed to minimise noise, while still remaining functional. These products have a particle board core which not only absorbs sound, but is also highly moisture resistant. Solicore doors are a great option for homes in any area, but are also a perfect fit for commercial applications such as schools and hospitals. Our Solicore doors have a range of face material options”.

Solicore prices. $128 to $169.

Corinthian solid external starts at $110.

Also need to be sure of sizes. If I remember correctly, every door in this house is a different size. Facing material?

Help?

(Also need to replace broken door chain, but that’s another story. Come to think of it, there’s another broken door lock, too).

mollwollfumble said:

Home handyman help please.

I have to replace somewhere between 1 and 7 doors in the very near future. As well as 1 to 2 door frames and 1 to 3 door locks.

2 doors are person access to garage from yard. Both severely water damaged. New door frame for one or both of these.
Door 3 very similar but may need replacement because of loose lock.
Doors 4 to 6 are internal, but are driving me mad because they need to be soundproof and aren’t.
Door 7 is a back door to house, with cat flap, showing signs of weather damage.
Second door lock is a gate latch that is broken.

All doors are plain, apart from Door 7 that has a small window.

Solid core doors are expensive, heavy and hard to hang. Hollow core doors tend not to be soundproof or weather resistant.

Plain doors vary in price from $30 to $285 internal.
From $60 to $251 plain external.
From $157 to $342 external with small window.

Humes solicore?
https://www.humedoors.com.au/blog/solicore-honeycomb-core-or-solid-door/

“Solicore doors are designed to minimise noise, while still remaining functional. These products have a particle board core which not only absorbs sound, but is also highly moisture resistant. Solicore doors are a great option for homes in any area, but are also a perfect fit for commercial applications such as schools and hospitals. Our Solicore doors have a range of face material options”.

Solicore prices. $128 to $169.

Corinthian solid external starts at $110.

Also need to be sure of sizes. If I remember correctly, every door in this house is a different size. Facing material?

Help?

(Also need to replace broken door chain, but that’s another story. Come to think of it, there’s another broken door lock, too).

doors come in standard sizes and trimmed to fit.

If the bottom of external doors are trimmed, seal with a good weatherproof paint. They’ll still get weather affected though. really need solid wood.

ChrispenEvan said:

mollwollfumble said:

Home handyman help please.

I have to replace somewhere between 1 and 7 doors in the very near future. As well as 1 to 2 door frames and 1 to 3 door locks.

2 doors are person access to garage from yard. Both severely water damaged. New door frame for one or both of these.
Door 3 very similar but may need replacement because of loose lock.
Doors 4 to 6 are internal, but are driving me mad because they need to be soundproof and aren’t.
Door 7 is a back door to house, with cat flap, showing signs of weather damage.
Second door lock is a gate latch that is broken.

All doors are plain, apart from Door 7 that has a small window.

Solid core doors are expensive, heavy and hard to hang. Hollow core doors tend not to be soundproof or weather resistant.

Plain doors vary in price from $30 to $285 internal.
From $60 to $251 plain external.
From $157 to $342 external with small window.

Humes solicore?
https://www.humedoors.com.au/blog/solicore-honeycomb-core-or-solid-door/

“Solicore doors are designed to minimise noise, while still remaining functional. These products have a particle board core which not only absorbs sound, but is also highly moisture resistant. Solicore doors are a great option for homes in any area, but are also a perfect fit for commercial applications such as schools and hospitals. Our Solicore doors have a range of face material options”.

Solicore prices. $128 to $169.

Corinthian solid external starts at $110.

Also need to be sure of sizes. If I remember correctly, every door in this house is a different size. Facing material?

Help?

(Also need to replace broken door chain, but that’s another story. Come to think of it, there’s another broken door lock, too).

doors come in standard sizes and trimmed to fit.

If the bottom of external doors are trimmed, seal with a good weatherproof paint. They’ll still get weather affected though. really need solid wood.

vault doors are sound proof

Arts said:

ChrispenEvan said:

mollwollfumble said:

Home handyman help please.

I have to replace somewhere between 1 and 7 doors in the very near future. As well as 1 to 2 door frames and 1 to 3 door locks.

2 doors are person access to garage from yard. Both severely water damaged. New door frame for one or both of these.
Door 3 very similar but may need replacement because of loose lock.
Doors 4 to 6 are internal, but are driving me mad because they need to be soundproof and aren’t.
Door 7 is a back door to house, with cat flap, showing signs of weather damage.
Second door lock is a gate latch that is broken.

All doors are plain, apart from Door 7 that has a small window.

Solid core doors are expensive, heavy and hard to hang. Hollow core doors tend not to be soundproof or weather resistant.

Plain doors vary in price from $30 to $285 internal.
From $60 to $251 plain external.
From $157 to $342 external with small window.

Humes solicore?
https://www.humedoors.com.au/blog/solicore-honeycomb-core-or-solid-door/

“Solicore doors are designed to minimise noise, while still remaining functional. These products have a particle board core which not only absorbs sound, but is also highly moisture resistant. Solicore doors are a great option for homes in any area, but are also a perfect fit for commercial applications such as schools and hospitals. Our Solicore doors have a range of face material options”.

Solicore prices. $128 to $169.

Corinthian solid external starts at $110.

Also need to be sure of sizes. If I remember correctly, every door in this house is a different size. Facing material?

Help?

(Also need to replace broken door chain, but that’s another story. Come to think of it, there’s another broken door lock, too).

doors come in standard sizes and trimmed to fit.

If the bottom of external doors are trimmed, seal with a good weatherproof paint. They’ll still get weather affected though. really need solid wood.

vault doors are sound proof

Glue eggs cartons to them they supposedly sound proof rooms, not a good look though

Arts said:

ChrispenEvan said:

mollwollfumble said:

Home handyman help please.

I have to replace somewhere between 1 and 7 doors in the very near future. As well as 1 to 2 door frames and 1 to 3 door locks.

2 doors are person access to garage from yard. Both severely water damaged. New door frame for one or both of these.
Door 3 very similar but may need replacement because of loose lock.
Doors 4 to 6 are internal, but are driving me mad because they need to be soundproof and aren’t.
Door 7 is a back door to house, with cat flap, showing signs of weather damage.
Second door lock is a gate latch that is broken.

All doors are plain, apart from Door 7 that has a small window.

Solid core doors are expensive, heavy and hard to hang. Hollow core doors tend not to be soundproof or weather resistant.

Plain doors vary in price from $30 to $285 internal.
From $60 to $251 plain external.
From $157 to $342 external with small window.

Humes solicore?
https://www.humedoors.com.au/blog/solicore-honeycomb-core-or-solid-door/

“Solicore doors are designed to minimise noise, while still remaining functional. These products have a particle board core which not only absorbs sound, but is also highly moisture resistant. Solicore doors are a great option for homes in any area, but are also a perfect fit for commercial applications such as schools and hospitals. Our Solicore doors have a range of face material options”.

Solicore prices. $128 to $169.

Corinthian solid external starts at $110.

Also need to be sure of sizes. If I remember correctly, every door in this house is a different size. Facing material?

Help?

(Also need to replace broken door chain, but that’s another story. Come to think of it, there’s another broken door lock, too).

doors come in standard sizes and trimmed to fit.

If the bottom of external doors are trimmed, seal with a good weatherproof paint. They’ll still get weather affected though. really need solid wood.

vault doors are sound proof

that’s because money talks and after a while that annoys bank employees

ChrispenEvan said:

Arts said:

ChrispenEvan said:

doors come in standard sizes and trimmed to fit.

If the bottom of external doors are trimmed, seal with a good weatherproof paint. They’ll still get weather affected though. really need solid wood.

vault doors are sound proof

that’s because money talks and after a while that annoys bank employees

It’s also quite lewd and rude, “roll in my naked, rub me all over your body”

Cymek said:

Arts said:

ChrispenEvan said:

doors come in standard sizes and trimmed to fit.

If the bottom of external doors are trimmed, seal with a good weatherproof paint. They’ll still get weather affected though. really need solid wood.

vault doors are sound proof

Glue eggs cartons to them they supposedly sound proof rooms, not a good look though

also a fire hazard

Arts said:

Cymek said:

Arts said:

vault doors are sound proof

Glue eggs cartons to them they supposedly sound proof rooms, not a good look though

also a fire hazard

That is true, not an eggcellent idea then

Arts said:

Cymek said:

Arts said:

vault doors are sound proof

Glue eggs cartons to them they supposedly sound proof rooms, not a good look though

also a fire hazard

Surely you can spray them with a toxic chemical to make the unflameable.

Mr Tunks is here and making his usual godawful gardening tool noises.

Ooops

ChrispenEvan said:

Arts said:

ChrispenEvan said:

doors come in standard sizes and trimmed to fit.

If the bottom of external doors are trimmed, seal with a good weatherproof paint. They’ll still get weather affected though. really need solid wood.

vault doors are sound proof

that’s because money talks and after a while that annoys bank employees

LOL.

I’ll pay that one.

:)

Michael V said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Arts said:

vault doors are sound proof

that’s because money talks and after a while that annoys bank employees

LOL.

I’ll pay that one.

:)

he’s encouraging me, sibeen!

ChrispenEvan said:

mollwollfumble said:

Home handyman help please.

I have to replace somewhere between 1 and 7 doors in the very near future. As well as 1 to 2 door frames and 1 to 3 door locks.

2 doors are person access to garage from yard. Both severely water damaged. New door frame for one or both of these.
Door 3 very similar but may need replacement because of loose lock.
Doors 4 to 6 are internal, but are driving me mad because they need to be soundproof and aren’t.
Door 7 is a back door to house, with cat flap, showing signs of weather damage.
Second door lock is a gate latch that is broken.

All doors are plain, apart from Door 7 that has a small window.

Solid core doors are expensive, heavy and hard to hang. Hollow core doors tend not to be soundproof or weather resistant.

Plain doors vary in price from $30 to $285 internal.
From $60 to $251 plain external.
From $157 to $342 external with small window.

Humes solicore?
https://www.humedoors.com.au/blog/solicore-honeycomb-core-or-solid-door/

“Solicore doors are designed to minimise noise, while still remaining functional. These products have a particle board core which not only absorbs sound, but is also highly moisture resistant. Solicore doors are a great option for homes in any area, but are also a perfect fit for commercial applications such as schools and hospitals. Our Solicore doors have a range of face material options”.

Solicore prices. $128 to $169.

Corinthian solid external starts at $110.

Also need to be sure of sizes. If I remember correctly, every door in this house is a different size. Facing material?

Help?

(Also need to replace broken door chain, but that’s another story. Come to think of it, there’s another broken door lock, too).

doors come in standard sizes and trimmed to fit.

If the bottom of external doors are trimmed, seal with a good weatherproof paint. They’ll still get weather affected though. really need solid wood.

I think I can find ones to trim. I’ve never succeeded in proper weather sealing or acoustic sealing around doors. Either the seal falls off or rapidly disintegrates.

Ta. Back doors for both houses, and garage person entry doors at the moment are all either honeycomb or riddled with rot. Not good.

> Vault doors

Would they fit?

> Egg cartons

Urban myth. Need something a lot better than that, like the foam spikes used in the CSIRO anechoic chamber. Can’t walk on the floor of the room, walk on suspended wire mesh.

Mrs m’s comment is that she wants a screen door with cat flap for our back door. Possible?

Skip the window in the back door. Have a peephole instead, cheaper.

Hanging doors doesn’t need to be hard.
Use things like F Clamps to help keep the door vertical and at the right height while you get the hinges secured.

I know nothing about replacing door frames, but I imagine if you have a compound mitre saw or some other way to make accurate angled cuts, then you are half way there.

Depending on what level of noise dampening or what kind of noise you are trying to dampen, there are paints that help reduce noise transmission (like this – https://www.acousticalsurfaces.com/coat-of-silence/coat-of-silence.html).
Another option would be to use noise cancelling panels (like these – https://www.bunnings.com.au/gunnersen-1200-x-2400-x-9mm-acoustic-pinboard_p0510009 ). The panels are available in a variety of colours and can double as a pin board.
Remember to take care of the gaps around the door. There is no point in having a sound proof door with a 15mm gap under it.

I know nothing about replacing door frames, but I imagine if you have a compound mitre saw or some other way to make accurate angled cuts, then you are half way there.

——-

Easier to cut them square. Make a rebate in the thick part of the head.

You doing this yourself molly?

What about replacing all the doors with beaded curtains and start yourself on the dark path to becoming a hippy

Ian said:

I know nothing about replacing door frames, but I imagine if you have a compound mitre saw or some other way to make accurate angled cuts, then you are half way there.

——-

Easier to cut them square. Make a rebate in the thick part of the head.

You doing this yourself molly?

Almost certainly will end up doing this myself.

The real question is how much i will get finished.

Cymek said:

What about replacing all the doors with beaded curtains and start yourself on the dark path to becoming a hippy

My sister in law is a genuine Byron Bay hippy.

Missy is lighting scented candles and incense. She’ll be mak8ng dream catchers next.

That’s enogh hippy for now.

We had to replace two sets of exterior French doors and door frames recently; mould (fungus) had got into them badly and they were a serious mess. I thought I might be able to fix them, but we realised that it would take forever. We ended up getting it professionally done.

It was surprisingly cheap, because they were delivered pre-assembled, so the labour was only a few hours.

I would’ve had to buy the doors and frames anyway, without any trade discount. And had to arrange delivery (at exorbitant cost – whereas the builder has his cheap deliver company).

And all done in less than a day.

Michael V said:

We had to replace two sets of exterior French doors and door frames recently; mould (fungus) had got into them badly and they were a serious mess. I thought I might be able to fix them, but we realised that it would take forever. We ended up getting it professionally done.

It was surprisingly cheap, because they were delivered pre-assembled, so the labour was only a few hours.

I would’ve had to buy the doors and frames anyway, without any trade discount. And had to arrange delivery (at exorbitant cost – whereas the builder has his cheap deliver company).

And all done in less than a day.

> It was surprisingly cheap

What are we talking about here? $500?

Delivery? Why hadn’t thought of that. I think our car will fit a door in it. Perhaps.

If they were just going to be hollow core doors, I wouldn’t worry. I’ve hung those a dozen times or so. But for solid core I’ve always uad a builder do it.

Back door here happens to be 2060 mm high. Exactly the wrong height because the standard door is 2040. I’ve had trouble with it before.

mollwollfumble said:

Michael V said:

We had to replace two sets of exterior French doors and door frames recently; mould (fungus) had got into them badly and they were a serious mess. I thought I might be able to fix them, but we realised that it would take forever. We ended up getting it professionally done.

It was surprisingly cheap, because they were delivered pre-assembled, so the labour was only a few hours.

I would’ve had to buy the doors and frames anyway, without any trade discount. And had to arrange delivery (at exorbitant cost – whereas the builder has his cheap deliver company).

And all done in less than a day.

> It was surprisingly cheap

What are we talking about here? $500?

Delivery? Why hadn’t thought of that. I think our car will fit a door in it. Perhaps.

If they were just going to be hollow core doors, I wouldn’t worry. I’ve hung those a dozen times or so. But for solid core I’ve always uad a builder do it.

Back door here happens to be 2060 mm high. Exactly the wrong height because the standard door is 2040. I’ve had trouble with it before.

You can always nail a board to one end to make it the right height.

mollwollfumble said:

Michael V said:

We had to replace two sets of exterior French doors and door frames recently; mould (fungus) had got into them badly and they were a serious mess. I thought I might be able to fix them, but we realised that it would take forever. We ended up getting it professionally done.

It was surprisingly cheap, because they were delivered pre-assembled, so the labour was only a few hours.

I would’ve had to buy the doors and frames anyway, without any trade discount. And had to arrange delivery (at exorbitant cost – whereas the builder has his cheap deliver company).

And all done in less than a day.

> It was surprisingly cheap

What are we talking about here? $500?

Delivery? Why hadn’t thought of that. I think our car will fit a door in it. Perhaps.

If they were just going to be hollow core doors, I wouldn’t worry. I’ve hung those a dozen times or so. But for solid core I’ve always uad a builder do it.

Back door here happens to be 2060 mm high. Exactly the wrong height because the standard door is 2040. I’ve had trouble with it before.

Yeah, something like that amount for the labour. Well worth it, especially as I have been unwell for some time.

I reckon find out what it would cost you for the pre-hung doors, delivered, and then get a quote for the whole job. And do the sums.

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

Michael V said:

We had to replace two sets of exterior French doors and door frames recently; mould (fungus) had got into them badly and they were a serious mess. I thought I might be able to fix them, but we realised that it would take forever. We ended up getting it professionally done.

It was surprisingly cheap, because they were delivered pre-assembled, so the labour was only a few hours.

I would’ve had to buy the doors and frames anyway, without any trade discount. And had to arrange delivery (at exorbitant cost – whereas the builder has his cheap deliver company).

And all done in less than a day.

> It was surprisingly cheap

What are we talking about here? $500?

Delivery? Why hadn’t thought of that. I think our car will fit a door in it. Perhaps.

If they were just going to be hollow core doors, I wouldn’t worry. I’ve hung those a dozen times or so. But for solid core I’ve always uad a builder do it.

Back door here happens to be 2060 mm high. Exactly the wrong height because the standard door is 2040. I’ve had trouble with it before.

You can always nail a board to one end to make it the right height.

Yes.

mollwollfumble said:

Ian said:

I know nothing about replacing door frames, but I imagine if you have a compound mitre saw or some other way to make accurate angled cuts, then you are half way there.

——-

Easier to cut them square. Make a rebate in the thick part of the head.

You doing this yourself molly?

Almost certainly will end up doing this myself.

The real question is how much i will get finished.

Buy the doors you want and get a professional to fit them.

buffy said:

mollwollfumble said:

Ian said:

I know nothing about replacing door frames, but I imagine if you have a compound mitre saw or some other way to make accurate angled cuts, then you are half way there.

——-

Easier to cut them square. Make a rebate in the thick part of the head.

You doing this yourself molly?

Almost certainly will end up doing this myself.

The real question is how much i will get finished.

Buy the doors you want and get a professional to fit them.

Or buy the doors, do it yourself whilst drinking hard liquor and remember measure not at all, cut it many times and swear when its wrong

Cymek said:

buffy said:

mollwollfumble said:

Almost certainly will end up doing this myself.

The real question is how much i will get finished.

Buy the doors you want and get a professional to fit them.

Or buy the doors, do it yourself whilst drinking hard liquor and remember measure not at all, cut it many times and swear when its wrong

measure twice, cut thrice.

• Or buy the doors, do it yourself whilst drinking hard liquor and remember measure not at all, cut it many times and swear when its wrong

Doors are over rated. You need only one external door, all other external doors can be boarded up. Interior doors are optional but definitely not necessary…

furious said:

• Or buy the doors, do it yourself whilst drinking hard liquor and remember measure not at all, cut it many times and swear when its wrong

Doors are over rated. You need only one external door, all other external doors can be boarded up. Interior doors are optional but definitely not necessary…

The current plan is to brick up the giant side door in the garage, which is big enough to drive a fair sized truck through, has rotted very badly, and has its huge hinges bent. But that’s later.

> Buy the doors you want and get a professional to fit them.

Quite possible. I hadn’t thought of that possibility. One door is covered by insurance. The others aren’t.

> measure twice, cut thrice.

Measure once, cut twice. Because if you measure more than once, how do you know which measurement to cut to. But if it’s wrong size, you can always do a second cut.

mollwollfumble said:

furious said:

• Or buy the doors, do it yourself whilst drinking hard liquor and remember measure not at all, cut it many times and swear when its wrong

Doors are over rated. You need only one external door, all other external doors can be boarded up. Interior doors are optional but definitely not necessary…

The current plan is to brick up the giant side door in the garage, which is big enough to drive a fair sized truck through, has rotted very badly, and has its huge hinges bent. But that’s later.

> Buy the doors you want and get a professional to fit them.

Quite possible. I hadn’t thought of that possibility. One door is covered by insurance. The others aren’t.

> measure twice, cut thrice.

Measure once, cut twice. Because if you measure more than once, how do you know which measurement to cut to. But if it’s wrong size, you can always do a second cut.

If you let me move in I’ll help you, I think Bubblecar doesn’t want me

mollwollfumble said:

furious said:

• Or buy the doors, do it yourself whilst drinking hard liquor and remember measure not at all, cut it many times and swear when its wrong

Doors are over rated. You need only one external door, all other external doors can be boarded up. Interior doors are optional but definitely not necessary…

The current plan is to brick up the giant side door in the garage, which is big enough to drive a fair sized truck through, has rotted very badly, and has its huge hinges bent. But that’s later.

> Buy the doors you want and get a professional to fit them.

Quite possible. I hadn’t thought of that possibility. One door is covered by insurance. The others aren’t.

> measure twice, cut thrice.

Measure once, cut twice. Because if you measure more than once, how do you know which measurement to cut to. But if it’s wrong size, you can always do a second cut.

Going on small homemade dams, I am always amazed at how little material is required to hold back a relatively large body of water. However, if overflowed or the water makes its way through a yabby hole, it charges through and gets eroded away very quickly.

PermeateFree said:

mollwollfumble said:

furious said:

• Or buy the doors, do it yourself whilst drinking hard liquor and remember measure not at all, cut it many times and swear when its wrong

Doors are over rated. You need only one external door, all other external doors can be boarded up. Interior doors are optional but definitely not necessary…

The current plan is to brick up the giant side door in the garage, which is big enough to drive a fair sized truck through, has rotted very badly, and has its huge hinges bent. But that’s later.

> Buy the doors you want and get a professional to fit them.

Quite possible. I hadn’t thought of that possibility. One door is covered by insurance. The others aren’t.

> measure twice, cut thrice.

Measure once, cut twice. Because if you measure more than once, how do you know which measurement to cut to. But if it’s wrong size, you can always do a second cut.

Going on small homemade dams, I am always amazed at how little material is required to hold back a relatively large body of water. However, if overflowed or the water makes its way through a yabby hole, it charges through and gets eroded away very quickly.

wrong fred.

Zarkov said:

mollwollfumble said:

furious said:

• Or buy the doors, do it yourself whilst drinking hard liquor and remember measure not at all, cut it many times and swear when its wrong

Doors are over rated. You need only one external door, all other external doors can be boarded up. Interior doors are optional but definitely not necessary…

The current plan is to brick up the giant side door in the garage, which is big enough to drive a fair sized truck through, has rotted very badly, and has its huge hinges bent. But that’s later.

> Buy the doors you want and get a professional to fit them.

Quite possible. I hadn’t thought of that possibility. One door is covered by insurance. The others aren’t.

> measure twice, cut thrice.

Measure once, cut twice. Because if you measure more than once, how do you know which measurement to cut to. But if it’s wrong size, you can always do a second cut.

If you let me move in I’ll help you, I think Bubblecar doesn’t want me

Tempting.

mollwollfumble said:

Zarkov said:

mollwollfumble said:

The current plan is to brick up the giant side door in the garage, which is big enough to drive a fair sized truck through, has rotted very badly, and has its huge hinges bent. But that’s later.

> Buy the doors you want and get a professional to fit them.

Quite possible. I hadn’t thought of that possibility. One door is covered by insurance. The others aren’t.

> measure twice, cut thrice.

Measure once, cut twice. Because if you measure more than once, how do you know which measurement to cut to. But if it’s wrong size, you can always do a second cut.

If you let me move in I’ll help you, I think Bubblecar doesn’t want me

Tempting.

You’d do better to ask me or someone else.

To put it politely, hanging doors is well beyond the skills and knowledge of most ‘handy’ people, in my experience. Unless you have a good set of (previously undeclared) carpentry skills and equipment, you’re going to need a carpenter.

A good chippy will be able to knock over the handful you’re describing in a day.

Rule 303 said:

To put it politely, hanging doors is well beyond the skills and knowledge of most ‘handy’ people, in my experience. Unless you have a good set of (previously undeclared) carpentry skills and equipment, you’re going to need a carpenter.

A good chippy will be able to knock over the handful you’re describing in a day.

I disagree. Only a month or so ago my brother and me removed a window, cut the brick down to floor level, installed a door frame and hung a pair of doors with a rebated join in the middle – all in about half a day.

Rule 303 said:

To put it politely, hanging doors is well beyond the skills and knowledge of most ‘handy’ people, in my experience. Unless you have a good set of (previously undeclared) carpentry skills and equipment, you’re going to need a carpenter.

A good chippy will be able to knock over the handful you’re describing in a day.

That’s the point. A builder only employs those carpenters who can hang x number of doors per day.

party_pants said:

Rule 303 said:

To put it politely, hanging doors is well beyond the skills and knowledge of most ‘handy’ people, in my experience. Unless you have a good set of (previously undeclared) carpentry skills and equipment, you’re going to need a carpenter.

A good chippy will be able to knock over the handful you’re describing in a day.

I disagree. Only a month or so ago my brother and me removed a window, cut the brick down to floor level, installed a door frame and hung a pair of doors with a rebated join in the middle – all in about half a day.

:) well done.

It’s not that hard, I did 5 internal doors at the redoubt shack.
You just buy the door kit from Bunnings that includes the hinges already attached to the door and the jamb board.
Some doors even come with predrilled lock holes, the hardest part is drilling and chiselling out the door jamb for the lock.

party_pants said:

Rule 303 said:

To put it politely, hanging doors is well beyond the skills and knowledge of most ‘handy’ people, in my experience. Unless you have a good set of (previously undeclared) carpentry skills and equipment, you’re going to need a carpenter.

A good chippy will be able to knock over the handful you’re describing in a day.

I disagree. Only a month or so ago my brother and me removed a window, cut the brick down to floor level, installed a door frame and hung a pair of doors with a rebated join in the middle – all in about half a day.

I’m going to resist the temptation to regale you with stories about the horrible messes I’ve seen left, quite literally, on people’s doorsteps, and just say that’s great. And maybe Moll does have lots of skills and experience; but fitting doors to old frames, and replacing frames in old buildings (especially with a very low tolerance fit, as required for good weather sealing and sound proofing) is specialised work.

Peak Warming Man said:

It’s not that hard, I did 5 internal doors at the redoubt shack.
You just buy the door kit from Bunnings that includes the hinges already attached to the door and the jamb board.
Some doors even come with predrilled lock holes, the hardest part is drilling and chiselling out the door jamb for the lock.

Yeah, nah. There a few little tricks to hanging a door.

Rule 303 said:

I’m going to resist the temptation to regale you with stories about the horrible messes I’ve seen left, quite literally, on people’s doorsteps, and just say that’s great. And maybe Moll does have lots of skills and experience; but fitting doors to old frames, and replacing frames in old buildings (especially with a very low tolerance fit, as required for good weather sealing and sound proofing) is specialised work.

First two times i did it i made a mess of but finally got the hang of it. Haven’t tried a solid cored door, though.

On the other hand, the last builder i hired to work on my place left a horrible mess, including a large hole right through the floor, etc.

mollwollfumble said:

Rule 303 said:

I’m going to resist the temptation to regale you with stories about the horrible messes I’ve seen left, quite literally, on people’s doorsteps, and just say that’s great. And maybe Moll does have lots of skills and experience; but fitting doors to old frames, and replacing frames in old buildings (especially with a very low tolerance fit, as required for good weather sealing and sound proofing) is specialised work.

First two times i did it i made a mess of but finally got the hang of it. Haven’t tried a solid cored door, though.

On the other hand, the last builder i hired to work on my place left a horrible mess, including a large hole right through the floor, etc.

Some professions stipulate a certain number of repetitions (of a task) before one is considered competent, and some even stipulate a ‘maintenance’ number of times that task should be completed (per given time period). I don’t know how many doors one needs to hang, but I bet it’s more than two. I’ve hung hundreds, but I still have to be very deliberate, follow guidelines, my decision making is still laboured, and variations from the norm require analysis and planning. These are signs of a fairly moderate level of competence.

Well, I’m glad we paid about $500 labour to get our new doors and frames fitted. Well worth the money for two sets of french doors. And I have reasonable skills, having renovated several houses, including building new rooms.

mollwollfumble said:

Home handyman help please.

I have to replace somewhere between 1 and 7 doors in the very near future. As well as 1 to 2 door frames and 1 to 3 door locks.

2 doors are person access to garage from yard. Both severely water damaged. New door frame for one or both of these.
Door 3 very similar but may need replacement because of loose lock.
Doors 4 to 6 are internal, but are driving me mad because they need to be soundproof and aren’t.
Door 7 is a back door to house, with cat flap, showing signs of weather damage.
Second door lock is a gate latch that is broken.

All doors are plain, apart from Door 7 that has a small window.

Humes solicore?
https://www.humedoors.com.au/blog/solicore-honeycomb-core-or-solid-door/

Solicore price. $128

Corinthian solid external starts at $110.

(Also need to replace broken door chain, but that’s another story. Come to think of it, there’s another broken door lock, too).

Current status.
Doors 1 & 2 – chippie to do because they need new door frames too, attached on to brick.

Door 3 – don’t fix. OK as is.

Doors 4 to 6 – still hoping to do myself – three different sizes.

Door 7 – don’t fix. Too hard.

do some research and find some reputable man who has experience in this field

negotiate a price based on many doors needing to be replaced

make sure the door is appropriate to the situation – make sure you are using doors meant to be used for external situations or you’ll have the door peeling away when it gets wet.

mollwollfumble said:

Home handyman help please.

I have to replace somewhere between 1 and 7 doors in the very near future. As well as 1 to 2 door frames and 1 to 3 door locks.

2 doors are person access to garage from yard. Both severely water damaged. New door frame for one or both of these.
Door 3 very similar but may need replacement because of loose lock.
Doors 4 to 6 are internal, but are driving me mad because they need to be soundproof and aren’t.
Door 7 is a back door to house, with cat flap, showing signs of weather damage.
Second door lock is a gate latch that is broken.

All doors are plain, apart from Door 7 that has a small window.

Solid core doors are expensive, heavy and hard to hang. Hollow core doors tend not to be soundproof or weather resistant.

Plain doors vary in price from $30 to $285 internal.
From $60 to $251 plain external.
From $157 to $342 external with small window.

Humes solicore?
https://www.humedoors.com.au/blog/solicore-honeycomb-core-or-solid-door/

“Solicore doors are designed to minimise noise, while still remaining functional. These products have a particle board core which not only absorbs sound, but is also highly moisture resistant. Solicore doors are a great option for homes in any area, but are also a perfect fit for commercial applications such as schools and hospitals. Our Solicore doors have a range of face material options”.

Solicore prices. $128 to $169.

Corinthian solid external starts at $110.

Also need to be sure of sizes. If I remember correctly, every door in this house is a different size. Facing material?

Help?

(Also need to replace broken door chain, but that’s another story. Come to think of it, there’s another broken door lock, too).

Well. Door number one is in.

mollwollfumble said:

Home handyman help please.

I have to replace somewhere between 1 and 7 doors in the very near future. As well as 1 to 2 door frames and 1 to 3 door locks.

2 doors are person access to garage from yard. Both severely water damaged. New door frame for one or both of these.
Door 3 very similar but may need replacement because of loose lock.
Doors 4 to 6 are internal, but are driving me mad because they need to be soundproof and aren’t.
Door 7 is a back door to house, with cat flap, showing signs of weather damage.
Second door lock is a gate latch that is broken.

All doors are plain, apart from Door 7 that has a small window.

Solid core doors are expensive, heavy and hard to hang. Hollow core doors tend not to be soundproof or weather resistant.

Plain doors vary in price from $30 to $285 internal.
From $60 to $251 plain external.
From $157 to $342 external with small window.

Humes solicore?
https://www.humedoors.com.au/blog/solicore-honeycomb-core-or-solid-door/

“Solicore doors are designed to minimise noise, while still remaining functional. These products have a particle board core which not only absorbs sound, but is also highly moisture resistant. Solicore doors are a great option for homes in any area, but are also a perfect fit for commercial applications such as schools and hospitals. Our Solicore doors have a range of face material options”.

Solicore prices. $128 to $169.

Corinthian solid external starts at $110.

Also need to be sure of sizes. If I remember correctly, every door in this house is a different size. Facing material?

Help?

(Also need to replace broken door chain, but that’s another story. Come to think of it, there’s another broken door lock, too).

One door up, I put it up and it works as a sound barrier.

Getting a quote on two more doors today, if the builder can find the time. :-(

Not doing more than three of the seven (well, actually 3 of the 9 but that’s another story).

mollwollfumble said:

mollwollfumble said:

Home handyman help please.

I have to replace somewhere between 1 and 7 doors in the very near future. As well as 1 to 2 door frames and 1 to 3 door locks.

2 doors are person access to garage from yard. Both severely water damaged. New door frame for one or both of these.
Door 3 very similar but may need replacement because of loose lock.
Doors 4 to 6 are internal, but are driving me mad because they need to be soundproof and aren’t.
Door 7 is a back door to house, with cat flap, showing signs of weather damage.
Second door lock is a gate latch that is broken.

All doors are plain, apart from Door 7 that has a small window.

Solid core doors are expensive, heavy and hard to hang. Hollow core doors tend not to be soundproof or weather resistant.

Plain doors vary in price from $30 to $285 internal.
From $60 to $251 plain external.
From $157 to $342 external with small window.

Humes solicore?
https://www.humedoors.com.au/blog/solicore-honeycomb-core-or-solid-door/

“Solicore doors are designed to minimise noise, while still remaining functional. These products have a particle board core which not only absorbs sound, but is also highly moisture resistant. Solicore doors are a great option for homes in any area, but are also a perfect fit for commercial applications such as schools and hospitals. Our Solicore doors have a range of face material options”.

Solicore prices. $128 to $169.

Corinthian solid external starts at $110.

Also need to be sure of sizes. If I remember correctly, every door in this house is a different size. Facing material?

Help?

(Also need to replace broken door chain, but that’s another story. Come to think of it, there’s another broken door lock, too).

One door up, I put it up and it works as a sound barrier.

Getting a quote on two more doors today, if the builder can find the time. :-(

Not doing more than three of the seven (well, actually 3 of the 9 but that’s another story).

No quote from builder. “I don’t do insurance work”.

Tried taking old doors off. Screws wouldn’t budge. Tried buying new doors from Bumings. Out of stock. Can’t get suitable mouldings for frame either, except as part of a “kit”.

Screws wouldn’t budge

—
Use a bigger hammer.

Ian said:

Screws wouldn’t budge

—
Use a bigger hammer.

Or use drill/rattle screwdriver or impact driver.

Ian said:

Ian said:

Screws wouldn’t budge

—
Use a bigger hammer.

Or use drill/rattle screwdriver or impact driver.

With a … Crowbar?

Ian said:

Ian said:

Screws wouldn’t budge

—
Use a bigger hammer.

Or use drill/rattle screwdriver or impact driver.

Bought a bigger screwdriver. First the screws heads all pulled through the hinges. Then under the torque from the bigger screwdriver they all snapped off a cm into the wood. Success!

Number 2 door is off and rotted parts of the old door frame all cut off.

bump

party_pants said:

bump

hey, thanks. Date: 6/03/2019. ID: 1355859. Now I know where to look.

Down from 7 doors to 3. All three have now been hung – sort of. Quite an effort to fix the door frame bottom at the same time as the install of heavy solid-core doors.

First door finished, and is attenuating the awful sounds from the music students nicely. Still to strengthen, adjust, beautify and add screws to the last two doors. And fix one lock (spindle too long).

Second door in yesterday. Final door out and new one in took all of today. Really overdid it on that one. Not easy to fit doors and frames when in so much pain that I can’t walk more than 50 steps without sitting down, or stand still for more than 30 seconds.

However, doing the two final doors and door frames (including concreting under one of the frames) myself probably saved of the order of $3,000.

mollwollfumble said:

party_pants said:

bump

hey, thanks. Date: 6/03/2019. ID: 1355859. Now I know where to look.

Down from 7 doors to 3. All three have now been hung – sort of. Quite an effort to fix the door frame bottom at the same time as the install of heavy solid-core doors.

First door finished, and is attenuating the awful sounds from the music students nicely. Still to strengthen, adjust, beautify and add screws to the last two doors. And fix one lock (spindle too long).

Second door in yesterday. Final door out and new one in took all of today. Really overdid it on that one. Not easy to fit doors and frames when in so much pain that I can’t walk more than 50 steps without sitting down, or stand still for more than 30 seconds.

However, doing the two final doors and door frames (including concreting under one of the frames) myself probably saved of the order of $3,000.

Doors all finished. Heck of a job.

If door locks are stiff or doors jam or the frame is loose then that’s just too farkin bad, I’m not listening. Doors all finished.