Date: 9/03/2019 09:07:40
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1357372
Subject: Misuse of words

mollwollfumble said:


transition said:

how did deadly get to mean really cool, and how did cool get to mean good.

dad – death adders are deadly
youngsters – oh cool, let’s play with the death adder

youngster – is it safe to take the radiator cap off now
dad – yeah’s cool

dad – points to toxic sign on malathion container and says this is deadly
youngster – *looks impressed”

Interesting. Self destructive death wish i assume. A few observations.

Cool is cruel.

Breath-takingly beautiful is deadly in about two minutes.

Heart-stoppingly beautiful is deadly much faster.

Then there’s wicked which means good.

The Irish “sure” means no.

Kickstart is a bit violent.

Ditto booting, execute, dump, hang and crash for a computer. Even drag and drop is a bit violent.

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Date: 9/03/2019 09:36:30
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1357381
Subject: re: Misuse of words

https://www.deadlykindies.com.au/

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Date: 9/03/2019 09:41:08
From: Tamb
ID: 1357382
Subject: re: Misuse of words

mollwollfumble said:


mollwollfumble said:

transition said:

how did deadly get to mean really cool, and how did cool get to mean good.

dad – death adders are deadly
youngsters – oh cool, let’s play with the death adder

youngster – is it safe to take the radiator cap off now
dad – yeah’s cool

dad – points to toxic sign on malathion container and says this is deadly
youngster – *looks impressed”

Interesting. Self destructive death wish i assume. A few observations.

Cool is cruel.

Breath-takingly beautiful is deadly in about two minutes.

Heart-stoppingly beautiful is deadly much faster.

Then there’s wicked which means good.

The Irish “sure” means no.

Kickstart is a bit violent.

Ditto booting, execute, dump, hang and crash for a computer. Even drag and drop is a bit violent.

But even the use of death is a misuse. It should be deaf

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Date: 9/03/2019 11:29:10
From: transition
ID: 1357397
Subject: re: Misuse of words

mollwollfumble said:


mollwollfumble said:

transition said:

how did deadly get to mean really cool, and how did cool get to mean good.

dad – death adders are deadly
youngsters – oh cool, let’s play with the death adder

youngster – is it safe to take the radiator cap off now
dad – yeah’s cool

dad – points to toxic sign on malathion container and says this is deadly
youngster – *looks impressed”

Interesting. Self destructive death wish i assume. A few observations.

Cool is cruel.

Breath-takingly beautiful is deadly in about two minutes.

Heart-stoppingly beautiful is deadly much faster.

Then there’s wicked which means good.

The Irish “sure” means no.

Kickstart is a bit violent.

Ditto booting, execute, dump, hang and crash for a computer. Even drag and drop is a bit violent.

arts and rule and maybe few others were talking about shades of deviancy lastnight (some chat regard definition) and my neuron wandered to wondering about language that expresses it, attitude you know, which is in defiant utterances.

some of the expressions more indicate poverty of language, poverty of imagination, and poverty of experience.

there are sort of shorthand affirmations also, I guess.

someone mentioned wicked above too, that’s similar to deadly.

some of the words might indicate a want for no fear, no fear of death. And I have an idea no fear was an expression I heard when younger (from dad), it meant no, no way, but can’t be sure about that one.

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Date: 9/03/2019 11:36:50
From: buffy
ID: 1357400
Subject: re: Misuse of words

>>some of the words might indicate a want for no fear, no fear of death. And I have an idea no fear was an expression I heard when younger (from dad), it meant no, no way, but can’t be sure about that one.<<

That is an expression I know from my childhood. Emphasis on the second word. And it needs an explanation mark. And yes, it meant “no way”.

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Date: 9/03/2019 11:39:43
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1357401
Subject: re: Misuse of words

common usage dictates meaning.

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Date: 9/03/2019 11:52:49
From: Ian
ID: 1357404
Subject: re: Misuse of words

ChrispenEvan said:


common usage dictates meaning.

Good luck with that.

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Date: 9/03/2019 11:53:27
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1357406
Subject: re: Misuse of words

Ian said:


ChrispenEvan said:

common usage dictates meaning.

Good luck with that.

no luck in it. it happens all the time.

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Date: 9/03/2019 11:58:39
From: Arts
ID: 1357408
Subject: re: Misuse of words

ChrispenEvan said:


Ian said:

ChrispenEvan said:

common usage dictates meaning.

Good luck with that.

no luck in it. it happens all the time.

I think one could also argue an industry usage.

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Date: 9/03/2019 11:59:21
From: Ian
ID: 1357412
Subject: re: Misuse of words

Ian said:


ChrispenEvan said:

common usage dictates meaning.

Good luck with that.

Of course, circumstances tend non-specific indicative free-forming motives cementically.

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Date: 9/03/2019 13:24:54
From: dv
ID: 1357447
Subject: re: Misuse of words

Colloquialisms aren’t a misuse of words, and English has always contained words with multiple meanings.

Hope this helps.

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Date: 10/03/2019 04:51:08
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1357648
Subject: re: Misuse of words

“A contronym, often referred to as a Janus word or auto-antonym, is a word that evokes contradictory or reverse meanings depending on the context. Specifically, a contronym is a word with a homonym (another word with the same spelling but different meaning) that is also an antonym (a word with the opposite meaning).”

Bolt

To separate by fleeing or to hold together (as with a bolt)

Bound

Going toward a destination or restrained from moving

Buckle

To fasten together (with a buckle) or to bend or collapse from pressure

Cleave

To adhere firmly and closely or to split apart

Clip

To fasten (as with a paperclip) or to detach with shears (clipping your hair or your hedges)

Consult

To give advice or to get advice

Custom

A common practice or a specially made item

Dust

To cover something with a fine power or to make something clean by brushing or removing dust

Enjoin

To order someone to do something or to prohibit someone from doing something

Fast

Firmly fixed and unmoving or able to move rapidly

Finished

Completed or destroyed

Garnish

To add decorative touches (to food or drink) or to take/withhold from (as in wages)

Handicap

An advantage given to equalize chances of winning (as in golf) or a disadvantage that makes equality difficult

Lease

To rent property or to offer property for rent

Left

Departed or remained behind

Model

The original, perfect example or a copy

Off

Not operating (turn off the light) or operating (the alarm went off)

Out

Visible (the stars are out) or invisible (the lights are out)

Overlook

To watch or to fail to notice

Oversight

Watchful, responsible care or a mistake made due to forgetfulness or poor supervision

Peruse

To skim or to read very carefully

Ravel

To separate or to become entangled

Rent

To lease something or to offer an something for lease

Sanction

To boycott or to approve

Screen

To hide or to show (like a movie)

Seed

To add seed (“seeding the lawn”) or to remove seed (“seeding a watermelon”)

Strike

To hit or to miss while trying to hit

Trim

To add (decorations) or to take away (extra hair or fabric, for example)

Wear

To endure or to deteriorate

Weather

To withstand or to be worn away

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Date: 10/03/2019 08:00:29
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1357662
Subject: re: Misuse of words

mollwollfumble said:


“A contronym, often referred to as a Janus word or auto-antonym, is a word that evokes contradictory or reverse meanings depending on the context. Specifically, a contronym is a word with a homonym (another word with the same spelling but different meaning) that is also an antonym (a word with the opposite meaning).”

Bolt

To separate by fleeing or to hold together (as with a bolt)

Bound

Going toward a destination or restrained from moving

Buckle

To fasten together (with a buckle) or to bend or collapse from pressure

Cleave

To adhere firmly and closely or to split apart

Clip

To fasten (as with a paperclip) or to detach with shears (clipping your hair or your hedges)

Consult

To give advice or to get advice

Custom

A common practice or a specially made item

Dust

To cover something with a fine power or to make something clean by brushing or removing dust

Enjoin

To order someone to do something or to prohibit someone from doing something

Fast

Firmly fixed and unmoving or able to move rapidly

Finished

Completed or destroyed

Garnish

To add decorative touches (to food or drink) or to take/withhold from (as in wages)

Handicap

An advantage given to equalize chances of winning (as in golf) or a disadvantage that makes equality difficult

Lease

To rent property or to offer property for rent

Left

Departed or remained behind

Model

The original, perfect example or a copy

Off

Not operating (turn off the light) or operating (the alarm went off)

Out

Visible (the stars are out) or invisible (the lights are out)

Overlook

To watch or to fail to notice

Oversight

Watchful, responsible care or a mistake made due to forgetfulness or poor supervision

Peruse

To skim or to read very carefully

Ravel

To separate or to become entangled

Rent

To lease something or to offer an something for lease

Sanction

To boycott or to approve

Screen

To hide or to show (like a movie)

Seed

To add seed (“seeding the lawn”) or to remove seed (“seeding a watermelon”)

Strike

To hit or to miss while trying to hit

Trim

To add (decorations) or to take away (extra hair or fabric, for example)

Wear

To endure or to deteriorate

Weather

To withstand or to be worn away

I sanction that list.

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