A few questions to get through, but a bit of fun and probably an accuracy rating of 70% (if you don’t deliberately skew your results.) I would have liked a ‘neutral’ option also.. but something to knock yourself out on…

https://www.politicalcompass.org/

my result:

Arts said:

A few questions to get through, but a bit of fun and probably an accuracy rating of 70% (if you don’t deliberately skew your results.) I would have liked a ‘neutral’ option also.. but something to knock yourself out on…

https://www.politicalcompass.org/

my result:

Done it before a few times. My red spot ends up a bit south west of yours.

Geez I hope Facebook comes back soon.

Divine Angel said:

Geez I hope Facebook comes back soon.

chuckle

If you just mark “disagree” all the way through without bothering to read the questions, that is what you get.

buffy said:

If you just mark “disagree” all the way through without bothering to read the questions, that is what you get.

so the questions themselves are skewed to make people libertarian… that’s interesting in itself

What the hell? I’ll post mine because wtf not?

hmmm.

poikilotherm said:

hmmm.

Your the same as Mark Latham.

I have problems with questions like this, agreeing with it doesn’t mean endorsing it, but it is true that it is an advantage.

“A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system.”

And where I ended up.

AwesomeO said:

I have problems with questions like this, agreeing with it doesn’t mean endorsing it, but it is true that it is an advantage.

“A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system.”

And where I ended up.

It’s basically push polling, the results are meaningless.

Whoops.

sibeen said:

Arts said:

A few questions to get through, but a bit of fun and probably an accuracy rating of 70% (if you don’t deliberately skew your results.) I would have liked a ‘neutral’ option also.. but something to knock yourself out on…

https://www.politicalcompass.org/

my result:

Done it before a few times. My red spot ends up a bit south west of yours.

That seems hard to believe :)

I have problems with questions like this, agreeing with it doesn’t mean endorsing it, but it is true that it is an advantage.

“A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system.”

—-

Strongly agree.

sarahs mum said:

I have problems with questions like this, agreeing with it doesn’t mean endorsing it, but it is true that it is an advantage.

“A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system.”

—-

Strongly agree.

Surely a one-party stats cannot be democratic.

Tamb said:

sarahs mum said:

I have problems with questions like this, agreeing with it doesn’t mean endorsing it, but it is true that it is an advantage.

“A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system.”

—-

Strongly agree.

Surely a one-party stats cannot be democratic.

stats = state

Tamb said:

sarahs mum said:

I have problems with questions like this, agreeing with it doesn’t mean endorsing it, but it is true that it is an advantage.

“A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system.”

—-

Strongly agree.

Surely a one-party stats cannot be democratic.

But it does avoid arguments that delay progress in its way.

Tamb said:

Tamb said:

sarahs mum said:

I have problems with questions like this, agreeing with it doesn’t mean endorsing it, but it is true that it is an advantage.

“A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system.”

—-

Strongly agree.

Surely a one-party stats cannot be democratic.

stats = state

They just had a vote in North Korea.

sarahs mum said:

Tamb said:

sarahs mum said:

I have problems with questions like this, agreeing with it doesn’t mean endorsing it, but it is true that it is an advantage.

“A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system.”

—-

Strongly agree.

Surely a one-party stats cannot be democratic.

But it does avoid arguments that delay progress in its way.

But that isn’t necessarily an advantage.

I’d go so far as saying that in the long term it is rarely if ever an advantage.

The Rev Dodgson said:

sarahs mum said:

Tamb said:

Surely a one-party stats cannot be democratic.

But it does avoid arguments that delay progress in its way.

But that isn’t necessarily an advantage.

I’d go so far as saying that in the long term it is rarely if ever an advantage.

I agree with that, but in the context of the question, the agreement is that it avoids arguments, not if it is advantageous as a system of government.

Peak Warming Man said:

AwesomeO said:

I have problems with questions like this, agreeing with it doesn’t mean endorsing it, but it is true that it is an advantage.

“A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system.”

And where I ended up.

It’s basically push polling, the results are meaningless.

Nonetheless, here’s mine (seems I’m even SW of sibeen)

There’s no such thing as left and right any more.

Try two new axes. Say “honesty” and “rigidity” for example.

AwesomeO said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

sarahs mum said:

But it does avoid arguments that delay progress in its way.

But that isn’t necessarily an advantage.

I’d go so far as saying that in the long term it is rarely if ever an advantage.

I agree with that, but in the context of the question, the agreement is that it avoids arguments, not if it is advantageous as a system of government.

??

Question was:
“A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system.”

so for me to agree I’d have to agree that it avoided the arguments that delay progress, and that this was a significant advantage.

So I disagree (possibly strongly, I can’t remember)

mollwollfumble said:

There’s no such thing as left and right any more.

Try two new axes. Say “honesty” and “rigidity” for example.

I don’t think that’s true at all.

But yes, there need to be lots more axes.

mollwollfumble said:

There’s no such thing as left and right any more.

Try two new axes. Say “honesty” and “rigidity” for example.

I notice that all the results posted above lie on a straight line. That’s not a coincidence, but a result of the mathematically degenerate nature of the questionaire.

mollwollfumble said:

mollwollfumble said:

There’s no such thing as left and right any more.

Try two new axes. Say “honesty” and “rigidity” for example.

I notice that all the results posted above lie on a straight line. That’s not a coincidence, but a result of the mathematically degenerate nature of the questionaire.

I agree it’s not a coincidence, but I doubt it’s a result of the questionnaire. I’d say it was a result of the long term selection processes active in this forum.

> i don’t think that’s true at all.

Excellent. I enjoy different views.

Please define “left” and “right” in a way that excludes any influence of “authoratarian” and “libertarian”.

mollwollfumble said:

> i don’t think that’s true at all.

Excellent. I enjoy different views.

Please define “left” and “right” in a way that excludes any influence of “authoratarian” and “libertarian”.

Sure:

Left = means of production and property ownership are entirely managed by the state.
Right = production is managed entirely through open market mechanisms, with minimal state influence, and no restriction on private ownership of property.

Authoritarian = The state controls every aspect of the lives of individuals
Libertarian = State control is minimised in all areas of life.

The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

> i don’t think that’s true at all.

Excellent. I enjoy different views.

Please define “left” and “right” in a way that excludes any influence of “authoratarian” and “libertarian”.

Sure:

Left = means of production and property ownership are entirely managed by the state.
Right = production is managed entirely through open market mechanisms, with minimal state influence, and no restriction on private ownership of property.

Authoritarian = The state controls every aspect of the lives of individuals
Libertarian = State control is minimised in all areas of life.

But, aren’t you just defining left identical to authoritarian there? And right the same as libertarian? Maximum state control = left and authoritarian. Minimum state control = right and libertarian. I’m not understanding the distinction.

mollwollfumble said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

> i don’t think that’s true at all.

Excellent. I enjoy different views.

Please define “left” and “right” in a way that excludes any influence of “authoratarian” and “libertarian”.

Sure:

Left = means of production and property ownership are entirely managed by the state.
Right = production is managed entirely through open market mechanisms, with minimal state influence, and no restriction on private ownership of property.

Authoritarian = The state controls every aspect of the lives of individuals
Libertarian = State control is minimised in all areas of life.

But, aren’t you just defining left identical to authoritarian there? And right the same as libertarian? Maximum state control = left and authoritarian. Minimum state control = right and libertarian. I’m not understanding the distinction.

There is no clear definition.

mollwollfumble said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

> i don’t think that’s true at all.

Excellent. I enjoy different views.

Please define “left” and “right” in a way that excludes any influence of “authoratarian” and “libertarian”.

Sure:

Left = means of production and property ownership are entirely managed by the state.
Right = production is managed entirely through open market mechanisms, with minimal state influence, and no restriction on private ownership of property.

Authoritarian = The state controls every aspect of the lives of individuals
Libertarian = State control is minimised in all areas of life.

But, aren’t you just defining left identical to authoritarian there? And right the same as libertarian? Maximum state control = left and authoritarian. Minimum state control = right and libertarian. I’m not understanding the distinction.

No, I’m saying Left/Right applies only to control of the economy, and auth/lib to everything else.

Interestingly, if you make my definitions equivalent as you suggested, you get a line perpendicular to the results from this forum.

I’d say the Empathy/Self Interest spectrum was at least as relevant as the other two in deciding political allegiance.

Back to work

Political Man

>But, aren’t you just defining left identical to authoritarian there?

wouldn’t make too much out of it, some people are attracted to putting red dots somewhere, especially a grid of squares with a few colors.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Back to work

Political Man

Comment from that link:
It’s funny how this predates zeppelin but it sounds like a parody of their style.

:)

transition said:

>But, aren’t you just defining left identical to authoritarian there?

wouldn’t make too much out of it, some people are attracted to putting red dots somewhere, especially a grid of squares with a few colors.

C’mmon, do the questionnaire.

We all want to know where the multi-dimensional transitional personality lies, when projected onto a 2D plane.

The Rev Dodgson said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Back to work

Political Man

Comment from that link:
It’s funny how this predates zeppelin but it sounds like a parody of their style.

:)

How little that person knows

The Rev Dodgson said:

transition said:

>But, aren’t you just defining left identical to authoritarian there?

wouldn’t make too much out of it, some people are attracted to putting red dots somewhere, especially a grid of squares with a few colors.

C’mmon, do the questionnaire.

We all want to know where the multi-dimensional transitional personality lies, when projected onto a 2D plane.

might tell you worse than nothing, to the extent I think it’d be interesting to anyone, me included.

The Rev Dodgson said:

C’mmon, do the questionnaire.

We all want to know where the multi-dimensional transitional personality lies, when projected onto a 2D plane.

Sorry, my opinion doesn’t matter so I’ll keep it to myself.

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

C’mmon, do the questionnaire.

We all want to know where the multi-dimensional transitional personality lies, when projected onto a 2D plane.

Sorry, my opinion doesn’t matter so I’ll keep it to myself.

I appear to be quite middle-of-the-road.

Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

C’mmon, do the questionnaire.

We all want to know where the multi-dimensional transitional personality lies, when projected onto a 2D plane.

Sorry, my opinion doesn’t matter so I’ll keep it to myself.

I appear to be quite middle-of-the-road.

Or taking the median SSSF group alignment as being a straight line from bottom-left to top-right, you are way left of centre :)

The Rev Dodgson said:

Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Sorry, my opinion doesn’t matter so I’ll keep it to myself.

I appear to be quite middle-of-the-road.

Or taking the median SSSF group alignment as being a straight line from bottom-left to top-right, you are way left of centre :)

Not as far off-centre as SSSF.

The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Sure:

Left = means of production and property ownership are entirely managed by the state.
Right = production is managed entirely through open market mechanisms, with minimal state influence, and no restriction on private ownership of property.

Authoritarian = The state controls every aspect of the lives of individuals
Libertarian = State control is minimised in all areas of life.

But, aren’t you just defining left identical to authoritarian there? And right the same as libertarian? Maximum state control = left and authoritarian. Minimum state control = right and libertarian. I’m not understanding the distinction.

No, I’m saying Left/Right applies only to control of the economy, and auth/lib to everything else.

Interestingly, if you make my definitions equivalent as you suggested, you get a line perpendicular to the results from this forum.

I’d say the Empathy/Self Interest spectrum was at least as relevant as the other two in deciding political allegiance.

> I’m saying Left/Right applies only to control of the economy, and auth/lib to everything else.

Does that matter?

> Interestingly, if you make my definitions equivalent as you suggested, you get a line perpendicular to the results from this forum.

I did notice that. It makes me doubt your definitions. ;-)

> I’d say the Empathy/Self Interest spectrum was at least as relevant as the other two in deciding political allegiance.

Agree.

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Tamb said:

I appear to be quite middle-of-the-road.

Or taking the median SSSF group alignment as being a straight line from bottom-left to top-right, you are way left of centre :)

Not as far off-centre as SSSF.

Sorry, but you are way Left of the SSSF line:)

My result:

Basically with a strong left leaning, but I do not think people or companies have the right to do as they please.

Just because you have an enemy, what does that make you?
Then you are asked to agree or disagree that the enemy of your supposed enemy is going to be your friend?

Fuck off.

So everyone here is greensquare?

dv said:

So everyone here is greensquare?

Pretty much.

dv said:

So everyone here is greensquare?

Looks like it.

dv said:

So everyone here is greensquare?

I was just about to comment on this, so now I won’t.

dv said:

So everyone here is greensquare?

We’re chock full of Libtards, the only potential outliers don’t haven’t played.

dv said:

So everyone here is greensquare?

Only those who have posted.

kii said:

dv said:

So everyone here is greensquare?

I was just about to comment on this, so now I won’t.

You still might. We haven’t seen a certain right-wingers chart yet.

dv said:

So everyone here is greensquare?

Except for those who choose not to participate.

Off the scale, probably.

kii said:

dv said:

So everyone here is greensquare?

I was just about to comment on this, so now I won’t.

:)

roughbarked said:

kii said:

dv said:

So everyone here is greensquare?

I was just about to comment on this, so now I won’t.

:)

Maybe take 20 minutes to reflect on that?

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

kii said:

I was just about to comment on this, so now I won’t.

:)

Maybe take 20 minutes to reflect on that?

It all reminds me of The Gates of Delerium

PermeateFree said:

kii said:

dv said:

So everyone here is greensquare?

I was just about to comment on this, so now I won’t.

You still might. We haven’t seen a certain right-wingers chart yet.

I’ve seen enough.
Referring to my notes on various participants, I feel we have some fake answers.

kii said:

PermeateFree said:

kii said:

I was just about to comment on this, so now I won’t.

You still might. We haven’t seen a certain right-wingers chart yet.

I’ve seen enough.
Referring to my notes on various participants, I feel we have some fake answers.

The questions are skewed anyway.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

So everyone here is greensquare?

Except for those who choose not to participate.

Off the scale, probably.

Last time i did a personality test of this sort, my position moved so rapidly that by the end of the test i was in the opposite square to where i was when i started the test.

I could do the test separately for each of my multiple personalities, i suppose. But why bother? I don’t see “independent” on the chart.

mollwollfumble said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

So everyone here is greensquare?

Except for those who choose not to participate.

Off the scale, probably.

Last time i did a personality test of this sort, my position moved so rapidly that by the end of the test i was in the opposite square to where i was when i started the test.

I could do the test separately for each of my multiple personalities, i suppose. But why bother? I don’t see “independent” on the chart.

I stopped doing the thing when I realised that there was no place to do anything independently other than follow suggestion. Which basically, was the first couple of questions. Then when I decided to look to see what the other questions may be, they wouldn’t allow me to proceed unless I followed their cues. Can’t slot me in that easy.

mollwollfumble said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

So everyone here is greensquare?

Except for those who choose not to participate.

Off the scale, probably.

Last time i did a personality test of this sort, my position moved so rapidly that by the end of the test i was in the opposite square to where i was when i started the test.

I could do the test separately for each of my multiple personalities, i suppose. But why bother? I don’t see “independent” on the chart.

because independent isn’t a political position.

ChrispenEvan said:

mollwollfumble said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Except for those who choose not to participate.

Off the scale, probably.

Last time i did a personality test of this sort, my position moved so rapidly that by the end of the test i was in the opposite square to where i was when i started the test.

I could do the test separately for each of my multiple personalities, i suppose. But why bother? I don’t see “independent” on the chart.

because independent isn’t a political position.

It could be apolitical?

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

mollwollfumble said:

Last time i did a personality test of this sort, my position moved so rapidly that by the end of the test i was in the opposite square to where i was when i started the test.

I could do the test separately for each of my multiple personalities, i suppose. But why bother? I don’t see “independent” on the chart.

because independent isn’t a political position.

It could be apolitical?

U know, a bit like atheist?

ahhhh here come the dicks.

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

mollwollfumble said:

Last time i did a personality test of this sort, my position moved so rapidly that by the end of the test i was in the opposite square to where i was when i started the test.

I could do the test separately for each of my multiple personalities, i suppose. But why bother? I don’t see “independent” on the chart.

because independent isn’t a political position.

It could be apolitical?

which is a political position.

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

because independent isn’t a political position.

It could be apolitical?

which is a political position.

Is atheist a theist position?

ChrispenEvan said:

ahhhh here come the dicks.

You got visitors?

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

It could be apolitical?

which is a political position.

Is atheist a theist position?

yes, as in non-theist.

mollwollfumble said:

But why bother? I don’t see “independent” on the chart.

For me, finding a position on a 2D chart has a strange appeal, even whilst acknowledging that a 2D chart is pretty meaningless, and as roughie says, the questions are probably skewed so that almost everyone gets the result that they should be buying the Grauniad.

But I have to admit, on the benefit to mankind/effort expended scale, it’s probably pretty low.

The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

But why bother? I don’t see “independent” on the chart.

For me, finding a position on a 2D chart has a strange appeal, even whilst acknowledging that a 2D chart is pretty meaningless, and as roughie says, the questions are probably skewed so that almost everyone gets the result that they should be buying the Grauniad.

But I have to admit, on the benefit to mankind/effort expended scale, it’s probably pretty low.

:) One look at it should have shown you that but I am glad you got there in the end.

I think these things should always include a neither agree nor disagree option. It’s always reasonable not to have an opinion on something, or be unsure, or to have a mixed opinion

SCIENCE said:

Ha ha. Well done.

dv said:

I think these things should always include a neither agree nor disagree option. It’s always reasonable not to have an opinion on something, or be unsure, or to have a mixed opinion

my point on the nail’s head.

SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

you can make it do whatever you wish.

dv said:

So everyone here is greensquare?

Dunno where I go. I just answered “disagree” to every question and it came out in the green square. I might go back and see what result “agree” to every question give.

But for now I’m going to eat my tea.

buffy said:

dv said:

So everyone here is greensquare?

Dunno where I go. I just answered “disagree” to every question and it came out in the green square. I might go back and see what result “agree” to every question give.

But for now I’m going to eat my tea.

I stopped because I didn’t believe that I could get my red dot outside the bottom left corner but now that it has been explained, it is possible that I could.

buffy said:

dv said:

So everyone here is greensquare?

Dunno where I go. I just answered “disagree” to every question and it came out in the green square. I might go back and see what result “agree” to every question give.

But for now I’m going to eat my tea.

Ta muchly for the hint.

green – about 4 left and 3 down.

>So everyone here is greensquare?

probably same as if you made a dart board of, said where would you like to be, and did average of where twelve darts landed

transition said:

>So everyone here is greensquare?

probably same as if you made a dart board of, said where would you like to be, and did average of where twelve darts landed

it is odd actually when a world wide swing has been rather more towards the far right rather than off the bottom left hand corner.

roughbarked said:

transition said:

>So everyone here is greensquare?

probably same as if you made a dart board of, said where would you like to be, and did average of where twelve darts landed

it is odd actually when a world wide swing has been rather more towards the far right rather than off the bottom left hand corner.

The left of politics has moved further to the right, the ALP is further to the right now than previous Liberal governments, the spectrum has changed.
The only true left wing party in western democracies now is Corbyn’s UK Labour Party.
They are really the only party in the UK that can deliver on Brexit because except for a few defectors they will always follow the party line and vote as a block in Parliament, the Torries by their very nature are not so Borg inclined.

>the spectrum has changed.

probably to the extent left and right don’t mean much anymore.

take just one thing, private wealth is massive now.

transition said:

>the spectrum has changed.

probably to the extent left and right don’t mean much anymore.

take just one thing, private wealth is massive now.

not here, it just isn’t.

roughbarked said:

transition said:

>the spectrum has changed.

probably to the extent left and right don’t mean much anymore.

take just one thing, private wealth is massive now.

not here, it just isn’t.

Though I do indeed get your point.

roughbarked said:

transition said:

>the spectrum has changed.

probably to the extent left and right don’t mean much anymore.

take just one thing, private wealth is massive now.

not here, it just isn’t.

you know what I mean, the totality of private wealth was once substantially more modest compared with governments.

was my point.

transition said:

roughbarked said:

transition said:

>the spectrum has changed.

probably to the extent left and right don’t mean much anymore.

take just one thing, private wealth is massive now.

not here, it just isn’t.

you know what I mean, the totality of private wealth was once substantially more modest compared with governments.

was my point.

Yeah. I do get it. But as you may imagine, I will always plead for the plight of the uneducated innocents.

I’m sure this will surprise everybody – Not.

Rule 303 said:

I’m sure this will surprise everybody – Not.

mOve me on to any black square.

Rule 303 said:

I’m sure this will surprise everybody – Not.

I’m shocked to be sitting here…

Witty Rejoinder said:

I’ve thought about completing this exercise but I already know where i sit in this scheme of things.
I don’t really know what these people collecting this evidence want but what I do know is that if people of my ilk had never lived, these questions would never had been asked.

roughbarked said:

transition said:

>So everyone here is greensquare?

probably same as if you made a dart board of, said where would you like to be, and did average of where twelve darts landed

it is odd actually when a world wide swing has been rather more towards the far right rather than off the bottom left hand corner.

Have they shifted the centre point of the chart then? Probably.

mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

transition said:

>So everyone here is greensquare?

probably same as if you made a dart board of, said where would you like to be, and did average of where twelve darts landed

it is odd actually when a world wide swing has been rather more towards the far right rather than off the bottom left hand corner.

Have they shifted the centre point of the chart then? Probably.

Results aren’t that surprising for a forum like this, its just the demographic for such a forum.
Im sure if the members of the Andrew Bolt forum (if there is such a thing) took the same test they would all end up in the top right blue section.

gaghalfrunt said:

mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

it is odd actually when a world wide swing has been rather more towards the far right rather than off the bottom left hand corner.

Have they shifted the centre point of the chart then? Probably.

Results aren’t that surprising for a forum like this, its just the demographic for such a forum.
Im sure if the members of the Andrew Bolt forum (if there is such a thing) took the same test they would all end up in the top right blue section.

prolly.

Mine:

Bubblecar said:

Mine:

…in real life I’m not that extreme, but there are few shades of grey in that test :)

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Mine:

…in real life I’m not that extreme, but there are few shades of grey in that test :)

I bet the computer that answered all your questions about the red dot has to put you in the big square, somewhere, and it struggled, really struggled, and the truth is you’re a fucken anarchist.

;)