What petitions would you support?
Please exclude all petitions you’d support that refer to a specific person.
I’m after “what is wrong with the system and the best way to fix it” types of petitions.
mollwollfumble said:
What petitions would you support?Please exclude all petitions you’d support that refer to a specific person.
I’m after “what is wrong with the system and the best way to fix it” types of petitions.
How about the ‘Henry VI, Part 2, Act IV, Scene 2’ petition?
“The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers”captain_spalding said:
mollwollfumble said:
What petitions would you support?Please exclude all petitions you’d support that refer to a specific person.
I’m after “what is wrong with the system and the best way to fix it” types of petitions.
How about the ‘Henry VI, Part 2, Act IV, Scene 2’ petition?
“The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers”
captain_spalding said:
mollwollfumble said:
What petitions would you support?Please exclude all petitions you’d support that refer to a specific person.
I’m after “what is wrong with the system and the best way to fix it” types of petitions.
How about the ‘Henry VI, Part 2, Act IV, Scene 2’ petition?
“The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers”
Gigggle
I like cycle paths
mollwollfumble said:
What petitions would you support?Please exclude all petitions you’d support that refer to a specific person.
I’m after “what is wrong with the system and the best way to fix it” types of petitions.
Bad behaviour ie sexism, racism, offensive language.
Boost the ethics department in federal parliament to cover for misconduct, unethical behaviour.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Bad behaviour ie sexism, racism, offensive language.
‘Offensive language’ is a tough one.
I’ve met lesbian who were offended by terms like ‘manhandle’ and ‘manslaughter’.
Remove all “red tape”.
Tau.Neutrino said:
offensive language.
Nah, fuck being so British.
We’re at 950,000 signatures on the Anning petition, and the voting rate looks to have come up to nearly 500/min.
Biggest electronic petition ever in Australia by a wide margin.
mollwollfumble said:
Remove all “red tape”.
Define ‘red tape’:
Rule 303 said:
We’re at 950,000 signatures on the Anning petition, and the voting rate looks to have come up to nearly 500/min.Biggest electronic petition ever in Australia by a wide margin.
Is anyone building the guillotine?
PermeateFree said:
Rule 303 said:
We’re at 950,000 signatures on the Anning petition, and the voting rate looks to have come up to nearly 500/min.Biggest electronic petition ever in Australia by a wide margin.
Is anyone building the guillotine?
I must insist the guillotine be built only from sustainably harvested timber with an Australian made steel blade.
Witty Rejoinder said:
mollwollfumble said:
Remove all “red tape”.
Define ‘red tape’:
Unnecessary delay, by government and semi-government authorities.
mollwollfumble said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
mollwollfumble said:
Remove all “red tape”.
Define ‘red tape’:
Unnecessary delay, by government and semi-government authorities.
Define ‘unnecessary’: And who is to benefit from this Moll dictum?
Witty Rejoinder said:
mollwollfumble said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Define ‘red tape’:
Unnecessary delay, by government and semi-government authorities.
Define ‘unnecessary’: And who is to benefit from this Moll dictum?
Look it up in the dictionary, ya lazy sod.
Every one
mollwollfumble said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
mollwollfumble said:Unnecessary delay, by government and semi-government authorities.
Define ‘unnecessary’: And who is to benefit from this Moll dictum?
Look it up in the dictionary, ya lazy sod.
Every one
Everyone? Well now you have to explain how less red tape actually benefits ‘everyone’: I mean car accidents increase GDP so take me through it slowly if you can.
The Anning Petition is about to hit the million mark in the next few minutes.
Rule 303 said:
The Anning Petition is about to hit the million mark in the next few minutes.
I know it means stuff all but at the end of the day at least Anning will know that he isn’t loved.
sarahs mum said:
Rule 303 said:
The Anning Petition is about to hit the million mark in the next few minutes.
I know it means stuff all but at the end of the day at least Anning will know that he isn’t loved.
Still feels like ‘clocking’ a Politics game.
:-)
sarahs mum said:
Rule 303 said:
The Anning Petition is about to hit the million mark in the next few minutes.
I know it means stuff all but at the end of the day at least Anning will know that he isn’t loved.
I guess it means that no other party would preference him for fear of a big voter blow-back. I guess that is a positive.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
Rule 303 said:
The Anning Petition is about to hit the million mark in the next few minutes.
I know it means stuff all but at the end of the day at least Anning will know that he isn’t loved.
I guess it means that no other party would preference him for fear of a big voter blow-back. I guess that is a positive.
I like that positive. Thanks.
I signed the Anning one, but there’s a stupid petition out there to “revoke Brenton Tarrant’s Australian citizenship”.
That would amount to Australia washing its hands of any responsibility in this matter.
I’m sure many Kiwis would prefer that he be deported back to Australia to serve his time here, so they don’t have to foot the huge bill for keeping him in a maximum security prison for the rest of his days.
didn’t he get to his parliamentary position by default anyway?
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:I know it means stuff all but at the end of the day at least Anning will know that he isn’t loved.
I guess it means that no other party would preference him for fear of a big voter blow-back. I guess that is a positive.
I like that positive. Thanks.
Mad fucking witches published this pic of some young libs today.
They were all fuckityfuckity fuck about it.
Bubblecar said:
but there’s a stupid petition out there to “revoke Brenton Tarrant’s Australian citizenship”.T
wait, he was born here.. can you even do that?
Bubblecar said:
I signed the Anning one, but there’s a stupid petition out there to “revoke Brenton Tarrant’s Australian citizenship”.That would amount to Australia washing its hands of any responsibility in this matter.
I’m sure many Kiwis would prefer that he be deported back to Australia to serve his time here, so they don’t have to foot the huge bill for keeping him in a maximum security prison for the rest of his days.
He wasn’t a born and bred? I don’t think the kiwis would want to hand him over. Remember what happened when they haded over the rainbow warrior guy?
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:I guess it means that no other party would preference him for fear of a big voter blow-back. I guess that is a positive.
I like that positive. Thanks.
Mad fucking witches published this pic of some young libs today.
They were all fuckityfuckity fuck about it.
I wonder if these people know how close they are to the American Sign language sign for Asshole. they just need to turn their hand 90degrees
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:I guess it means that no other party would preference him for fear of a big voter blow-back. I guess that is a positive.
I like that positive. Thanks.
Mad fucking witches published this pic of some young libs today.
They were all fuckityfuckity fuck about it.
FMD they are idiots. When is that even funny. Like the lolz are one thing but to be so divorced from sensible behaviour it boogles the mind.
Did you decide to watch the entire footage Arts
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:I guess it means that no other party would preference him for fear of a big voter blow-back. I guess that is a positive.
I like that positive. Thanks.
Mad fucking witches published this pic of some young libs today.
They were all fuckityfuckity fuck about it.
Chappy in the glasses looks like he forgot to put his trousers on.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:I guess it means that no other party would preference him for fear of a big voter blow-back. I guess that is a positive.
I like that positive. Thanks.
Mad fucking witches published this pic of some young libs today.
They were all fuckityfuckity fuck about it.
Sorry, what’s the significance of this photo? I can see only half the banner.
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:I like that positive. Thanks.
Mad fucking witches published this pic of some young libs today.
They were all fuckityfuckity fuck about it.
I wonder if these people know how close they are to the American Sign language sign for Asshole. they just need to turn their hand 90degrees
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:I like that positive. Thanks.
Mad fucking witches published this pic of some young libs today.
They were all fuckityfuckity fuck about it.
Sorry, what’s the significance of this photo? I can see only half the banner.
The significance is in the other message.
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:Mad fucking witches published this pic of some young libs today.
They were all fuckityfuckity fuck about it.
Sorry, what’s the significance of this photo? I can see only half the banner.
The significance is in the other message.
It would be nice to see the full message though and also a date, that cropping looks a little convenient.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:I like that positive. Thanks.
Mad fucking witches published this pic of some young libs today.
They were all fuckityfuckity fuck about it.
Sorry, what’s the significance of this photo? I can see only half the banner.
They’re making a white-supremacist hand signal like BT did when he was in court yesterday.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Did you decide to watch the entire footage Arts
I have only seen stills… don;t have the connections to get hold of the entire live stream… I am starting to go through the manifesto with more consideration though, but it still strikes me as disingenuous
Arts said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Did you decide to watch the entire footage Arts
I have only seen stills… don;t have the connections to get hold of the entire live stream… I am starting to go through the manifesto with more consideration though, but it still strikes me as disingenuous
Both the footage and the manifesto are all over 8chan.
Witty Rejoinder said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:Mad fucking witches published this pic of some young libs today.
They were all fuckityfuckity fuck about it.
Sorry, what’s the significance of this photo? I can see only half the banner.
They’re making a white-supremacist hand signal like BT did when he was in court yesterday.
OIC. I have no idea about that shit. I don’t pay close enough attention. I mostly only read the news rather than watching it these days.
Witty Rejoinder said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:Mad fucking witches published this pic of some young libs today.
They were all fuckityfuckity fuck about it.
Sorry, what’s the significance of this photo? I can see only half the banner.
They’re making a white-supremacist hand signal like BT did when he was in court yesterday.
But it’s also a sign for a-ok which is why I would like to see the full banner and a date. I suspect shenanigans.
Witty Rejoinder said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:Mad fucking witches published this pic of some young libs today.
They were all fuckityfuckity fuck about it.
Sorry, what’s the significance of this photo? I can see only half the banner.
They’re making a white-supremacist hand signal like BT did when he was in court yesterday.
the problem is that each of those hand signals and the position it is demonstrated in means different things to different people…
Arts said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
party_pants said:Sorry, what’s the significance of this photo? I can see only half the banner.
They’re making a white-supremacist hand signal like BT did when he was in court yesterday.
the problem is that each of those hand signals and the position it is demonstrated in means different things to different people…
Perhaps it is context. the message is different when you are holding political poster to when you are underwater in scuba gear.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Did you decide to watch the entire footage Arts
I have only seen stills… don;t have the connections to get hold of the entire live stream… I am starting to go through the manifesto with more consideration though, but it still strikes me as disingenuous
Both the footage and the manifesto are all over 8chan.
witty.. can you email me?
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
Witty Rejoinder said:They’re making a white-supremacist hand signal like BT did when he was in court yesterday.
the problem is that each of those hand signals and the position it is demonstrated in means different things to different people…
Perhaps it is context. the message is different when you are holding political poster to when you are underwater in scuba gear.
When did the OK gesture turn into a white power gesture? It’s news to me.
Arts said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:I have only seen stills… don;t have the connections to get hold of the entire live stream… I am starting to go through the manifesto with more consideration though, but it still strikes me as disingenuous
Both the footage and the manifesto are all over 8chan.
witty.. can you email me?
Sure… addy again?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Both the footage and the manifesto are all over 8chan.
witty.. can you email me?
Sure… addy again?
heinzdesigns at the hotplace dot com
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:the problem is that each of those hand signals and the position it is demonstrated in means different things to different people…
Perhaps it is context. the message is different when you are holding political poster to when you are underwater in scuba gear.
When did the OK gesture turn into a white power gesture? It’s news to me.
White power symbol
In 2017, the OK gesture was at the center of an online prank in meme culture related to alt-right and white supremacy originating from anonymous message board posts on the website 4chan. The Boston Globe reported that users on 4chan’s “/pol/” (Politically Incorrect) board were instructed in February 2017 to “flood Twitter and other social media websites…claiming that the OK hand sign is a symbol of white supremacy,” as part of a campaign dubbed “Operation O-KKK”. The association of the gesture with white supremacy derived from the assertion that the three upheld fingers resemble a ‘W’ and the circle made with the thumb and forefinger resemble the head of a ‘P’, together standing for “white power”. While some members of the alt-right used the symbol after the launch of the 4chan campaign, it remained ambiguous whether or not it was being used to communicate genuine adherence to white supremacy, or with deliberately ironic motives. In May 2017, the Anti-Defamation League published an article asking:
Has the simple thumb-and-forefinger ‘OK’ hand gesture become a common white supremacist hand sign? Not quite, but it has become a popular gesture used by people across several segments of the right and far right—including some actual white supremacists—who generally use it to trigger reactions. Only if the gesture occurs in context with other clear indicators of white supremacy can one draw that conclusion.
By 2018, a number of people were accused of signaling support for white supremacist ideology in publicly displaying the gesture. For example, the U.S. Coast Guard disciplined an employee who conspicuously made this gesture in the background of a newscast in September 2018. And in March 2019, self-avowed white supremacist Brenton Tarrant, charged with the terrorist shooting of 50 worshippers in two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, flashed the sign to cameras in the courtroom where he was being arraigned.. This last input is actually incorrect. The White Power Symbol is always portrayed with the hand pointing up. In Brenton Tarrant’s case, his hand was pointing down and directly in front of his groin as part of “The Circle Game”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_gesture#White_power_symbol
ChrispenEvan said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:Perhaps it is context. the message is different when you are holding political poster to when you are underwater in scuba gear.
When did the OK gesture turn into a white power gesture? It’s news to me.
White power symbol
In 2017, the OK gesture was at the center of an online prank in meme culture related to alt-right and white supremacy originating from anonymous message board posts on the website 4chan. The Boston Globe reported that users on 4chan’s “/pol/” (Politically Incorrect) board were instructed in February 2017 to “flood Twitter and other social media websites…claiming that the OK hand sign is a symbol of white supremacy,” as part of a campaign dubbed “Operation O-KKK”. The association of the gesture with white supremacy derived from the assertion that the three upheld fingers resemble a ‘W’ and the circle made with the thumb and forefinger resemble the head of a ‘P’, together standing for “white power”. While some members of the alt-right used the symbol after the launch of the 4chan campaign, it remained ambiguous whether or not it was being used to communicate genuine adherence to white supremacy, or with deliberately ironic motives. In May 2017, the Anti-Defamation League published an article asking:Has the simple thumb-and-forefinger ‘OK’ hand gesture become a common white supremacist hand sign? Not quite, but it has become a popular gesture used by people across several segments of the right and far right—including some actual white supremacists—who generally use it to trigger reactions. Only if the gesture occurs in context with other clear indicators of white supremacy can one draw that conclusion.
By 2018, a number of people were accused of signaling support for white supremacist ideology in publicly displaying the gesture. For example, the U.S. Coast Guard disciplined an employee who conspicuously made this gesture in the background of a newscast in September 2018. And in March 2019, self-avowed white supremacist Brenton Tarrant, charged with the terrorist shooting of 50 worshippers in two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, flashed the sign to cameras in the courtroom where he was being arraigned.. This last input is actually incorrect. The White Power Symbol is always portrayed with the hand pointing up. In Brenton Tarrant’s case, his hand was pointing down and directly in front of his groin as part of “The Circle Game”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_gesture#White_power_symbol
I was just checking that out. Now go back and have another look – the last line has been deleted already. Ahh, ya gotta love teh internet.
Arts said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:witty.. can you email me?
Sure… addy again?
heinzdesigns at the hotplace dot com
Sent
Here’s an article from last year about that Young LNP photo:
Young LNP accused of posting white-power sign
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/young-lnp-accused-of-posting-whitepower-sign/news-story/6f3bed9049051d90fb107060dd30d38c
ChrispenEvan said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:Perhaps it is context. the message is different when you are holding political poster to when you are underwater in scuba gear.
When did the OK gesture turn into a white power gesture? It’s news to me.
White power symbol
In 2017, the OK gesture was at the center of an online prank in meme culture related to alt-right and white supremacy originating from anonymous message board posts on the website 4chan. The Boston Globe reported that users on 4chan’s “/pol/” (Politically Incorrect) board were instructed in February 2017 to “flood Twitter and other social media websites…claiming that the OK hand sign is a symbol of white supremacy,” as part of a campaign dubbed “Operation O-KKK”. The association of the gesture with white supremacy derived from the assertion that the three upheld fingers resemble a ‘W’ and the circle made with the thumb and forefinger resemble the head of a ‘P’, together standing for “white power”. While some members of the alt-right used the symbol after the launch of the 4chan campaign, it remained ambiguous whether or not it was being used to communicate genuine adherence to white supremacy, or with deliberately ironic motives. In May 2017, the Anti-Defamation League published an article asking:Has the simple thumb-and-forefinger ‘OK’ hand gesture become a common white supremacist hand sign? Not quite, but it has become a popular gesture used by people across several segments of the right and far right—including some actual white supremacists—who generally use it to trigger reactions. Only if the gesture occurs in context with other clear indicators of white supremacy can one draw that conclusion.
By 2018, a number of people were accused of signaling support for white supremacist ideology in publicly displaying the gesture. For example, the U.S. Coast Guard disciplined an employee who conspicuously made this gesture in the background of a newscast in September 2018. And in March 2019, self-avowed white supremacist Brenton Tarrant, charged with the terrorist shooting of 50 worshippers in two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, flashed the sign to cameras in the courtroom where he was being arraigned.. This last input is actually incorrect. The White Power Symbol is always portrayed with the hand pointing up. In Brenton Tarrant’s case, his hand was pointing down and directly in front of his groin as part of “The Circle Game”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_gesture#White_power_symbol
2017 is too fucking recent for me.
Bubblecar said:
Here’s an article from last year about that Young LNP photo:Young LNP accused of posting white-power sign
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/young-lnp-accused-of-posting-whitepower-sign/news-story/6f3bed9049051d90fb107060dd30d38c
Subscriber only.
Bubblecar said:
Here’s an article from last year about that Young LNP photo:Young LNP accused of posting white-power sign
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/young-lnp-accused-of-posting-whitepower-sign/news-story/6f3bed9049051d90fb107060dd30d38c
I can’t have that. Wasn’t there also a dinner party with a similar photo?
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Here’s an article from last year about that Young LNP photo:Young LNP accused of posting white-power sign
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/young-lnp-accused-of-posting-whitepower-sign/news-story/6f3bed9049051d90fb107060dd30d38c
Subscriber only.
They let me read it and I’m certainly not a Murdoch subscriber.
But trying it again, they won’t let me back there.
Anyway, it didn’t say much. Just that Labor was accusing that group of using the white power gesture and demanding an investigation, while the LNP spokesperson said it was just an OK sign.
Given that there’s an LNP MP in the snap with them, it seems unlikely it was intended to be a racist sign.
Hehehe, a quick google of images and who knew, Obama and Hilary are also white supremists.
We are through the looking glass now people.
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Here’s an article from last year about that Young LNP photo:Young LNP accused of posting white-power sign
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/young-lnp-accused-of-posting-whitepower-sign/news-story/6f3bed9049051d90fb107060dd30d38c
Subscriber only.
They let me read it and I’m certainly not a Murdoch subscriber.
But trying it again, they won’t let me back there.
Anyway, it didn’t say much. Just that Labor was accusing that group of using the white power gesture and demanding an investigation, while the LNP spokesperson said it was just an OK sign.
Given that there’s an LNP MP in the snap with them, it seems unlikely it was intended to be a racist sign.
they could have been old fuddy-duddies like me and been totally unaware of the latest trends on 4Chan.
I think the pisstakers at 4chan can score the ok sign as a white supremist signal as a win for lols.
AwesomeO said:
Hehehe, a quick google of images and who knew, Obama and Hilary are also white supremists.We are through the looking glass now people.
Well, it doesn’t count if it was ore-2107
OK I got rid of any theaustralian cookies and tried again, and it let me in. Here’s the story:
Labor has called on Malcolm Turnbull to launch an inquiry into “extremist behaviour” in the Liberal National Party after members of its youth branch were pictured giving an “OK” hand gesture, which can be associated with white supremacist movements.
A group of Young LNP members were photographed alongside LNP senator James McGrath this month while campaigning in Longman, with some making the “OK” sign. The photo also was tweeted by Senator McGrath but later taken down.
However, it had not been removed from the Young LNP Facebook page by deadline last night.
LNP sources said Senator McGrath’s post was deleted because the photo contained a corflute with a message the party had not yet decided to use and did not want released. The hand gesture had not been noticed.
Revelations of the existence of the photo come just days out from the Super Saturday by-elections, with the contest for the marginal Queensland seat of Longman neck-and-neck between the LNP and Labor.
The men making the gesture — including Timothy Wright, Mortimer Duff and Mitchell Ablett-Nelson — declined to comment when contacted yesterday.
Sources aware of the photo said the gesture was not deliberate and those making it believed it was simply a “hunky dory”, “everything’s OK” sign. They also said the men were not aware of any white-power connotations or associations with right-wing groups, and it was a gesture many people had made since childhood.
The Australian was sent photos of former US president Barack Obama, former prime minister Kevin Rudd and comedian Ricky Gervais making the “OK” sign.
The sign began as a prank several years ago but has since been embraced by members of the white nationalist alt-right movement.
Controversial alt-right figure Milo Yiannopoulos has posed with the hand sign and an intern for US President Donald Trump, Jack Breuer, came under fire after he was photographed in the White House making the gesture.
Four Alabama police officers were recently suspended after being accused of making the symbol in a photo following an arrest.
Queensland Labor MP Murray Watt said it was “disgraceful”, and the Prime Minister needed to investigate how far extremist behaviour had infiltrated the LNP.
ROSIE LEWISREP
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:Subscriber only.
They let me read it and I’m certainly not a Murdoch subscriber.
But trying it again, they won’t let me back there.
Anyway, it didn’t say much. Just that Labor was accusing that group of using the white power gesture and demanding an investigation, while the LNP spokesperson said it was just an OK sign.
Given that there’s an LNP MP in the snap with them, it seems unlikely it was intended to be a racist sign.
they could have been old fuddy-duddies like me and been totally unaware of the latest trends on 4Chan.
I just had to go and look up what a 4chan was.
AwesomeO said:
Hehehe, a quick google of images and who knew, Obama and Hilary are also white supremists.We are through the looking glass now people.
I guess that would depend on when the pic was taken of them. pre 2017 and it wasn’t a white power sign.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:They let me read it and I’m certainly not a Murdoch subscriber.
But trying it again, they won’t let me back there.
Anyway, it didn’t say much. Just that Labor was accusing that group of using the white power gesture and demanding an investigation, while the LNP spokesperson said it was just an OK sign.
Given that there’s an LNP MP in the snap with them, it seems unlikely it was intended to be a racist sign.
they could have been old fuddy-duddies like me and been totally unaware of the latest trends on 4Chan.
I just had to go and look up what a 4chan was.
oh dear. are you ok?
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:Mad fucking witches published this pic of some young libs today.
They were all fuckityfuckity fuck about it.
Sorry, what’s the significance of this photo? I can see only half the banner.
The significance is in the other message.
It’s a bit ludicrous really because everyone automatically raises three fingers when doing the OK sign.
Bubblecar said:
OK I got rid of any theaustralian cookies and tried again, and it let me in. Here’s the story:Labor has called on Malcolm Turnbull to launch an inquiry into “extremist behaviour” in the Liberal National Party after members of its youth branch were pictured giving an “OK” hand gesture, which can be associated with white supremacist movements.
A group of Young LNP members were photographed alongside LNP senator James McGrath this month while campaigning in Longman, with some making the “OK” sign. The photo also was tweeted by Senator McGrath but later taken down.
However, it had not been removed from the Young LNP Facebook page by deadline last night.
LNP sources said Senator McGrath’s post was deleted because the photo contained a corflute with a message the party had not yet decided to use and did not want released. The hand gesture had not been noticed.
Revelations of the existence of the photo come just days out from the Super Saturday by-elections, with the contest for the marginal Queensland seat of Longman neck-and-neck between the LNP and Labor.
The men making the gesture — including Timothy Wright, Mortimer Duff and Mitchell Ablett-Nelson — declined to comment when contacted yesterday.
Sources aware of the photo said the gesture was not deliberate and those making it believed it was simply a “hunky dory”, “everything’s OK” sign. They also said the men were not aware of any white-power connotations or associations with right-wing groups, and it was a gesture many people had made since childhood.
The Australian was sent photos of former US president Barack Obama, former prime minister Kevin Rudd and comedian Ricky Gervais making the “OK” sign.
The sign began as a prank several years ago but has since been embraced by members of the white nationalist alt-right movement.
Controversial alt-right figure Milo Yiannopoulos has posed with the hand sign and an intern for US President Donald Trump, Jack Breuer, came under fire after he was photographed in the White House making the gesture.
Four Alabama police officers were recently suspended after being accused of making the symbol in a photo following an arrest.
Queensland Labor MP Murray Watt said it was “disgraceful”, and the Prime Minister needed to investigate how far extremist behaviour had infiltrated the LNP.
ROSIE LEWISREP
They knew.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
OK I got rid of any theaustralian cookies and tried again, and it let me in. Here’s the story:Labor has called on Malcolm Turnbull to launch an inquiry into “extremist behaviour” in the Liberal National Party after members of its youth branch were pictured giving an “OK” hand gesture, which can be associated with white supremacist movements.
A group of Young LNP members were photographed alongside LNP senator James McGrath this month while campaigning in Longman, with some making the “OK” sign. The photo also was tweeted by Senator McGrath but later taken down.
However, it had not been removed from the Young LNP Facebook page by deadline last night.
LNP sources said Senator McGrath’s post was deleted because the photo contained a corflute with a message the party had not yet decided to use and did not want released. The hand gesture had not been noticed.
Revelations of the existence of the photo come just days out from the Super Saturday by-elections, with the contest for the marginal Queensland seat of Longman neck-and-neck between the LNP and Labor.
The men making the gesture — including Timothy Wright, Mortimer Duff and Mitchell Ablett-Nelson — declined to comment when contacted yesterday.
Sources aware of the photo said the gesture was not deliberate and those making it believed it was simply a “hunky dory”, “everything’s OK” sign. They also said the men were not aware of any white-power connotations or associations with right-wing groups, and it was a gesture many people had made since childhood.
The Australian was sent photos of former US president Barack Obama, former prime minister Kevin Rudd and comedian Ricky Gervais making the “OK” sign.
The sign began as a prank several years ago but has since been embraced by members of the white nationalist alt-right movement.
Controversial alt-right figure Milo Yiannopoulos has posed with the hand sign and an intern for US President Donald Trump, Jack Breuer, came under fire after he was photographed in the White House making the gesture.
Four Alabama police officers were recently suspended after being accused of making the symbol in a photo following an arrest.
Queensland Labor MP Murray Watt said it was “disgraceful”, and the Prime Minister needed to investigate how far extremist behaviour had infiltrated the LNP.
ROSIE LEWISREP
They knew.
What’s the sign?
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
OK I got rid of any theaustralian cookies and tried again, and it let me in. Here’s the story:Labor has called on Malcolm Turnbull to launch an inquiry into “extremist behaviour” in the Liberal National Party after members of its youth branch were pictured giving an “OK” hand gesture, which can be associated with white supremacist movements.
A group of Young LNP members were photographed alongside LNP senator James McGrath this month while campaigning in Longman, with some making the “OK” sign. The photo also was tweeted by Senator McGrath but later taken down.
However, it had not been removed from the Young LNP Facebook page by deadline last night.
LNP sources said Senator McGrath’s post was deleted because the photo contained a corflute with a message the party had not yet decided to use and did not want released. The hand gesture had not been noticed.
Revelations of the existence of the photo come just days out from the Super Saturday by-elections, with the contest for the marginal Queensland seat of Longman neck-and-neck between the LNP and Labor.
The men making the gesture — including Timothy Wright, Mortimer Duff and Mitchell Ablett-Nelson — declined to comment when contacted yesterday.
Sources aware of the photo said the gesture was not deliberate and those making it believed it was simply a “hunky dory”, “everything’s OK” sign. They also said the men were not aware of any white-power connotations or associations with right-wing groups, and it was a gesture many people had made since childhood.
The Australian was sent photos of former US president Barack Obama, former prime minister Kevin Rudd and comedian Ricky Gervais making the “OK” sign.
The sign began as a prank several years ago but has since been embraced by members of the white nationalist alt-right movement.
Controversial alt-right figure Milo Yiannopoulos has posed with the hand sign and an intern for US President Donald Trump, Jack Breuer, came under fire after he was photographed in the White House making the gesture.
Four Alabama police officers were recently suspended after being accused of making the symbol in a photo following an arrest.
Queensland Labor MP Murray Watt said it was “disgraceful”, and the Prime Minister needed to investigate how far extremist behaviour had infiltrated the LNP.
ROSIE LEWISREP
They knew.
What’s the sign?
What?
I’ve read back. Same OK sigh as has been there forever. Well all my life, anyway.
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:They knew.
What’s the sign?
What?
I’ve read back. Same OK sigh as has been there forever. Well all my life, anyway.
Yep, and turning into a white power sign was a joke that apparently went viral a couple of years ago. Who knew.
Some quotes relating to government.
“Imagine all the people, sharing all the world.”
“It may be that the least popular person is the best to lead the country, because they get things done”.
“The purpose of the president is not to lead the galaxy but to distract attention away from it”.
“A democracy is inefficient, and therefore not to be considered”.
“The greatest happiness of the greatest number”.
“In the olden days, people had job security”.
“SAP”
“Complete delegation of authority”
“Impossible recreations. Getting the Vogon civil service to acknowledge a change of address”.
“Ruled by a computer. They couldn’t be more wrong.”
“The very concept of a separate government and opposition is an anachronism and must be done away with.”
“Every decision made sober is ratified when drunk. And every decision made drunk is ratified when sober”.
“Open government”.
“We don’t have a government. What do you want a government for?”
“The president is selected from hopefuls by unbiased lottery”.
“The Russian constitution is better than the American constitution”.
“To save on the cost of elections, a single average person in polled on their desires for a number of topics, and the candidate with the closest matching policies is selected as president”.
“An elected politician without portfolio is a waste of space”.
I’m looking forward to the time when technology will allow direct democracy – Every person voting upon every issue – But I’m fearful of its results.
Abolish the states…
dv said:
Abolish the states…
Nah, just Queensland.
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
Abolish the states…
Nah, just Queensland.
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
Abolish the states…
Nah, just Queensland.
All the States.
I dunno, mate, seems like all the problems are being caused by you bloody Queenslanders at the moment. Can’t you get back to talking about the weather and leave the rest of us to get on with the job of cleaning up your mess?
What about if we tell you we’ve abolished all the states, would that do?
Rule 303 said:
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:Nah, just Queensland.
All the States.I dunno, mate, seems like all the problems are being caused by you bloody Queenslanders at the moment. Can’t you get back to talking about the weather and leave the rest of us to get on with the job of cleaning up your mess?
What about if we tell you we’ve abolished all the states, would that do?
I think we should do a trial run & abolish Victoria.
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
Abolish the states…
Nah, just Queensland.
Oy!
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:
Tamb said:All the States.
I dunno, mate, seems like all the problems are being caused by you bloody Queenslanders at the moment. Can’t you get back to talking about the weather and leave the rest of us to get on with the job of cleaning up your mess?
What about if we tell you we’ve abolished all the states, would that do?
I think we should do a trial run & abolish Victoria.
I know, because you don’t have cold like we get it down here in Winter. You don’t know how we live here. You don’t even own a jumper, do you?
Take it from here, brother…
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
Abolish the states…
Nah, just Queensland.
All the States.
emotional states too
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
Abolish the states…
Nah, just Queensland.
+1
Rule 303 said:
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:I dunno, mate, seems like all the problems are being caused by you bloody Queenslanders at the moment. Can’t you get back to talking about the weather and leave the rest of us to get on with the job of cleaning up your mess?
What about if we tell you we’ve abolished all the states, would that do?
I think we should do a trial run & abolish Victoria.
I know, because you don’t have cold like we get it down here in Winter. You don’t know how we live here. You don’t even own a jumper, do you?
Take it from here, brother…
I live at altitude. Minuses every winter. In 2007 it got down to -12°
Rule 303 said:
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:Nah, just Queensland.
All the States.I dunno, mate, seems like all the problems are being caused by you bloody Queenslanders at the moment. Can’t you get back to talking about the weather and leave the rest of us to get on with the job of cleaning up your mess?
What about if we tell you we’ve abolished all the states, would that do?
We’re the victims here. FA only got 19 votes. On average, Qlders don’t like fascists either…
Arts said:
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:Nah, just Queensland.
All the States.emotional states too
Them first & religion on the same ballot paper.
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Tamb said:All the States.
I dunno, mate, seems like all the problems are being caused by you bloody Queenslanders at the moment. Can’t you get back to talking about the weather and leave the rest of us to get on with the job of cleaning up your mess?
What about if we tell you we’ve abolished all the states, would that do?
We’re the victims here. FA only got 19 votes. On average, Qlders don’t like fascists either…
The evidence would suggest otherwise. Just saying….
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:
Tamb said:All the States.
I dunno, mate, seems like all the problems are being caused by you bloody Queenslanders at the moment. Can’t you get back to talking about the weather and leave the rest of us to get on with the job of cleaning up your mess?
What about if we tell you we’ve abolished all the states, would that do?
I think we should do a trial run & abolish Victoria.
Every time something in Tassie gets run from Victoria it has problems. If I though it could get rid of some of the corruption I might vote yes. I need more convincing. If more power was put into local government at the same time I might be in.
sarahs mum said:
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:I dunno, mate, seems like all the problems are being caused by you bloody Queenslanders at the moment. Can’t you get back to talking about the weather and leave the rest of us to get on with the job of cleaning up your mess?
What about if we tell you we’ve abolished all the states, would that do?
I think we should do a trial run & abolish Victoria.
Every time something in Tassie gets run from Victoria it has problems. If I though it could get rid of some of the corruption I might vote yes. I need more convincing. If more power was put into local government at the same time I might be in.
That would be a natural consequence of State abolition.
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
Abolish the states…
Nah, just Queensland.
Fine we’ve got all the coal, we’ll be rich because we wont have to share.
And we’ll build a wall with tick gates ever thousand yards patrolled by Boarder Security in Toyotas.
Some might get through but they wont get far with their contraband of tofu, soy sausages, lip balm and men’s cosmetics.
And there’ll be no interconnectors with busted arsed states with their prehistoric windmills and pagan Gaia rituals.
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
Abolish the states…
Nah, just Queensland.
Fine we’ve got all the coal, we’ll be rich because we wont have to share.
And we’ll build a wall with tick gates ever thousand yards patrolled by Boarder Security in Toyotas.
Some might get through but they wont get far with their contraband of tofu, soy sausages, lip balm and men’s cosmetics.
And there’ll be no interconnectors with busted arsed states with their prehistoric windmills and pagan Gaia rituals.
Searches for the “like” button.
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
Abolish the states…
Nah, just Queensland.
Fine we’ve got all the coal, we’ll be rich because we wont have to share.
And we’ll build a wall with tick gates ever thousand yards patrolled by Boarder Security in Toyotas.
Some might get through but they wont get far with their contraband of tofu, soy sausages, lip balm and men’s cosmetics.
And there’ll be no interconnectors with busted arsed states with their prehistoric windmills and pagan Gaia rituals.
Your terms are acceptable.
You could try a more rigid demarcation of what states and the feds do to prevent some of the blame passing. This may involve a flight from some states to others but that may not be such a bad thing, is Tasmania really viable as a state if it stood alone in its state govt responsibilities?
Rather than abolish states, I reckon there should be a push to create new federal territories. As a way of promoting regional development and building new cities to ease the pressure on the existing capital cities.
Only snag is the states would have to agree to cede the land for the new territory to be created.
party_pants said:
Rather than abolish states, I reckon there should be a push to create new federal territories. As a way of promoting regional development and building new cities to ease the pressure on the existing capital cities.Only snag is the states would have to agree to cede the land for the new territory to be created.
Is it working as well in the Northern Territory as it is working for Canberra?
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
Rather than abolish states, I reckon there should be a push to create new federal territories. As a way of promoting regional development and building new cities to ease the pressure on the existing capital cities.Only snag is the states would have to agree to cede the land for the new territory to be created.
Is it working as well in the Northern Territory as it is working for Canberra?
I’m thinking much smaller areas, more like lots of little Canberras rather than large swathes of land like the NT. Like a small city-state(territory) with a small area of hinterland, probably more like the A.C.T. but maybe a bit smaller.
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:I dunno, mate, seems like all the problems are being caused by you bloody Queenslanders at the moment. Can’t you get back to talking about the weather and leave the rest of us to get on with the job of cleaning up your mess?
What about if we tell you we’ve abolished all the states, would that do?
We’re the victims here. FA only got 19 votes. On average, Qlders don’t like fascists either…
The evidence would suggest otherwise. Just saying….
The evidence would suggest that the first quota was obtained by the ALP…
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
Rather than abolish states, I reckon there should be a push to create new federal territories. As a way of promoting regional development and building new cities to ease the pressure on the existing capital cities.Only snag is the states would have to agree to cede the land for the new territory to be created.
Is it working as well in the Northern Territory as it is working for Canberra?
I’m thinking much smaller areas, more like lots of little Canberras rather than large swathes of land like the NT. Like a small city-state(territory) with a small area of hinterland, probably more like the A.C.T. but maybe a bit smaller.
I was being sarcastic. Things are bonnie in the ACT. They have good salaries and a good lifestyle. NT has the army sent in and the Indue card. They even have leprosy and deafness and blindness caused by treatable diseases.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
I signed the Anning one, but there’s a stupid petition out there to “revoke Brenton Tarrant’s Australian citizenship”.That would amount to Australia washing its hands of any responsibility in this matter.
I’m sure many Kiwis would prefer that he be deported back to Australia to serve his time here, so they don’t have to foot the huge bill for keeping him in a maximum security prison for the rest of his days.
He wasn’t a born and bred? I don’t think the kiwis would want to hand him over. Remember what happened when they haded over the rainbow warrior guy?
I thought about this too. Remember that the French thought backward NZ wouldn’t notice strangers driving on their roads and the saboteurs would be able to get away? I thought something about this person also misjudging them.
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:Is it working as well in the Northern Territory as it is working for Canberra?
I’m thinking much smaller areas, more like lots of little Canberras rather than large swathes of land like the NT. Like a small city-state(territory) with a small area of hinterland, probably more like the A.C.T. but maybe a bit smaller.
I was being sarcastic. Things are bonnie in the ACT. They have good salaries and a good lifestyle. NT has the army sent in and the Indue card. They even have leprosy and deafness and blindness caused by treatable diseases.
They can also let off fireworks while watching pornography.
party_pants said:
Rather than abolish states, I reckon there should be a push to create new federal territories. As a way of promoting regional development and building new cities to ease the pressure on the existing capital cities.Only snag is the states would have to agree to cede the land for the new territory to be created.
Create new territories & quite quickly they will want self government & we’ll end up with more pollies.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
Rather than abolish states, I reckon there should be a push to create new federal territories. As a way of promoting regional development and building new cities to ease the pressure on the existing capital cities.Only snag is the states would have to agree to cede the land for the new territory to be created.
Is it working as well in the Northern Territory as it is working for Canberra?
I’m thinking much smaller areas, more like lots of little Canberras rather than large swathes of land like the NT. Like a small city-state(territory) with a small area of hinterland, probably more like the A.C.T. but maybe a bit smaller.
Local government could do that.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:I’m thinking much smaller areas, more like lots of little Canberras rather than large swathes of land like the NT. Like a small city-state(territory) with a small area of hinterland, probably more like the A.C.T. but maybe a bit smaller.
I was being sarcastic. Things are bonnie in the ACT. They have good salaries and a good lifestyle. NT has the army sent in and the Indue card. They even have leprosy and deafness and blindness caused by treatable diseases.
They can also let off fireworks while watching pornography.
They still have active TB clinics in the NT. It’s our own little 3rd world.
Tamb said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:Is it working as well in the Northern Territory as it is working for Canberra?
I’m thinking much smaller areas, more like lots of little Canberras rather than large swathes of land like the NT. Like a small city-state(territory) with a small area of hinterland, probably more like the A.C.T. but maybe a bit smaller.
Local government could do that.
It means having only local and Federal level government. Over here the state government overrides local council decisions all the time.
party_pants said:
Tamb said:
party_pants said:I’m thinking much smaller areas, more like lots of little Canberras rather than large swathes of land like the NT. Like a small city-state(territory) with a small area of hinterland, probably more like the A.C.T. but maybe a bit smaller.
Local government could do that.
It means having only local and Federal level government. Over here the state government overrides local council decisions all the time.
That’s why I want State abolition.
Tamb said:
party_pants said:
Tamb said:Local government could do that.
It means having only local and Federal level government. Over here the state government overrides local council decisions all the time.
That’s why I want State abolition.
I see it as a pathway to abolition at some later stage, when there are so many territories that the rump states don’t really matter for much any more. Abolition by stealth, you could say.
party_pants said:
Tamb said:
party_pants said:It means having only local and Federal level government. Over here the state government overrides local council decisions all the time.
That’s why I want State abolition.
I see it as a pathway to abolition at some later stage, when there are so many territories that the rump states don’t really matter for much any more. Abolition by stealth, you could say.
Once the extra territory’s governments are formed they will fiercely resist abolition.
Tamb said:
party_pants said:
Tamb said:That’s why I want State abolition.
I see it as a pathway to abolition at some later stage, when there are so many territories that the rump states don’t really matter for much any more. Abolition by stealth, you could say.
Once the extra territory’s governments are formed they will fiercely resist abolition.
You don’t have create a territory level government. Being a smallish area they are the local council too. They deal with all the usual local government stuff plus a few extra bits of planning.
AwesomeO said:
>>Also, abolish the Senate and being in NZstyle proportional represenation in the House.If that means no house of review and more populous states get more representation I don’t agree.
AwesomeO said:
AwesomeO said:
>>Also, abolish the Senate and being in NZstyle proportional represenation in the House.If that means no house of review and more populous states get more representation I don’t agree.
Larger, more powerful Councils plus a Federal Government would mean less levels of government. If there was a clear division of responsibilities then there would be very little cross-blaming occurring.
AwesomeO said:
AwesomeO said:
>>Also, abolish the Senate and being in NZstyle proportional represenation in the House.If that means no house of review and more populous states get more representation I don’t agree.
but they are a “warehouse”.. which in marketing terms means more stuff at cheaper prices.. it works for Bunnings
Arts said:
AwesomeO said:
AwesomeO said:
>>Also, abolish the Senate and being in NZstyle proportional represenation in the House.If that means no house of review and more populous states get more representation I don’t agree.
but they are a “warehouse”.. which in marketing terms means more stuff at cheaper prices.. it works for Bunnings
The petition has hit 1.3mil signatures, and the GoFundMe campaign to buy EggBoy more eggs is at $55,000.
I’m making the call – This federal election is going to be a bloodbath for the right.
Rule 303 said:
The petition has hit 1.3mil signatures, and the GoFundMe campaign to buy EggBoy more eggs is at $55,000.I’m making the call – This federal election is going to be a bloodbath for the right.
Will be interesting to see what happens in this weekend’s NSW election and whether there is a backlash against Labor for their preference deals.
Rule 303 said:
The petition has hit 1.3mil signatures, and the GoFundMe campaign to buy EggBoy more eggs is at $55,000.I’m making the call – This federal election is going to be a bloodbath for the right.
Yes. This is a reverse Tampa.
Rule 303 said:
The petition has hit 1.3mil signatures, and the GoFundMe campaign to buy EggBoy more eggs is at $55,000.I’m making the call – This federal election is going to be a bloodbath for the right.
Happily, he has said that most of the money is going to be directed to the victims’ families
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
The petition has hit 1.3mil signatures, and the GoFundMe campaign to buy EggBoy more eggs is at $55,000.I’m making the call – This federal election is going to be a bloodbath for the right.
Will be interesting to see what happens in this weekend’s NSW election and whether there is a backlash against Labor for their preference deals.
Quite
dv said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
The petition has hit 1.3mil signatures, and the GoFundMe campaign to buy EggBoy more eggs is at $55,000.I’m making the call – This federal election is going to be a bloodbath for the right.
Will be interesting to see what happens in this weekend’s NSW election and whether there is a backlash against Labor for their preference deals.
Quite
I haven’t been paying attention.
What are the preference deals?
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
sibeen said:Will be interesting to see what happens in this weekend’s NSW election and whether there is a backlash against Labor for their preference deals.
Quite
I haven’t been paying attention.
What are the preference deals?
The ALP has done a preference deal Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party in the upcoming NSW election.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/state-politics/nsw-election-labors-shooters-party-deal-made-at-head-office/news-story/0f093fea4d5284c014e8adf8f7226eaa
