Date: 3/04/2019 19:29:39
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1370418
Subject: AIDS home test kit?

On news?

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Date: 3/04/2019 19:45:06
From: Arts
ID: 1370419
Subject: re: AIDS home test kit?

mollwollfumble said:


On news?

more information please.

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Date: 3/04/2019 19:51:01
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1370420
Subject: re: AIDS home test kit?

https://www.afao.org.au/about-hiv/getting-tested-for-hiv/

Finger prick test, results in 15 mins, expected to be on sale from March 2019.

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Date: 3/04/2019 20:08:52
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1370424
Subject: re: AIDS home test kit?

Divine Angel said:


https://www.afao.org.au/about-hiv/getting-tested-for-hiv/

Finger prick test, results in 15 mins, expected to be on sale from March 2019.

That’s the one.

Something about only available online and not supported by pbs?

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Date: 3/04/2019 20:24:03
From: Arts
ID: 1370426
Subject: re: AIDS home test kit?

mollwollfumble said:


Divine Angel said:

https://www.afao.org.au/about-hiv/getting-tested-for-hiv/

Finger prick test, results in 15 mins, expected to be on sale from March 2019.

That’s the one.

Something about only available online and not supported by pbs?

HIV self-testing (also known as home-based testing) is where HIV testing is conducted in the home or similar environment. They use the same technology as rapid HIV tests. The test is a finger-prick blood test. The result is provided within fifteen minutes after performing the test. The first HIV self-test was approved by the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) for sale in Australia in November 2018 and is expected to be available for sale in March 2019.

There is currently only one HIV self-test approved for sale in Australia. It is important to only use devices approved for sale, so that you can be sure the result is accurate and that the device is safe to use.

is what that site says… available online is better than going into a pharmacy I suspect… removes stigma…

also if you want free testing you can go to a clinic and get that done “Sexual health clinics provide free and confidential testing services.”

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Date: 3/04/2019 20:25:04
From: party_pants
ID: 1370427
Subject: re: AIDS home test kit?

mollwollfumble said:


Divine Angel said:

https://www.afao.org.au/about-hiv/getting-tested-for-hiv/

Finger prick test, results in 15 mins, expected to be on sale from March 2019.

That’s the one.

Something about only available online and not supported by pbs?

it takes several Milankovich Cycles from invention to listing on the PBS for any new medical technology/

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Date: 3/04/2019 21:02:04
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1370437
Subject: re: AIDS home test kit?

mollwollfumble said:


Divine Angel said:

https://www.afao.org.au/about-hiv/getting-tested-for-hiv/

Finger prick test, results in 15 mins, expected to be on sale from March 2019.

That’s the one.

Something about only available online and not supported by pbs?

The pbs is for drugs, not blood tests.

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Date: 3/04/2019 21:03:36
From: Rule 303
ID: 1370439
Subject: re: AIDS home test kit?

mollwollfumble said:


On news?

I know a bloke who has been working on the tech side of this for a couple of years – It’s 100% legit.

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Date: 3/04/2019 21:11:09
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1370448
Subject: re: AIDS home test kit?

Rule 303 said:


mollwollfumble said:

On news?

I know a bloke who has been working on the tech side of this for a couple of years – It’s 100% legit.

It’s been available in poor countries for quite some time, greatest need etc.

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Date: 3/04/2019 21:15:53
From: Rule 303
ID: 1370458
Subject: re: AIDS home test kit?

poikilotherm said:


Rule 303 said:

mollwollfumble said:

On news?

I know a bloke who has been working on the tech side of this for a couple of years – It’s 100% legit.

It’s been available in poor countries for quite some time, greatest need etc.

Excellent.

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Date: 3/04/2019 21:20:35
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1370463
Subject: re: AIDS home test kit?

In USA,

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommends that everyone 13 to 64 years old get tested for HIV at least once as part of routine health care. People at high risk for HIV infection should get tested each year.

From March 2006.

Rapid HIV antibody tests recently approved by the Food and Drug Administration can help reduce unrecognized infections by improving access to testing in both clinical and nonclinical settings and increase the proportion of those tested who learn their results. Four rapid HIV antibody tests are now available in the United States; two are approved for use at point-of-care sites outside a traditional laboratory.

So, how does rapid testing detect the HIV?

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Date: 3/04/2019 21:30:30
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1370471
Subject: re: AIDS home test kit?

HIV Self-Test (HST) from https://endinghiv.org.au/test-often/all-about-testing/#

HST devices also allow you to perform an initial screening test by yourself at home. It’s a simple process – involving a mouth swab or finger prick – which produces a result in less than 30 minutes.

To help increase testing rates, the Australian Government amended regulation to allow HST devices to be sold in Australia. However, any such device needs to be approved by the Therapeutic Goods Administration and this is yet to occur. This means it’s currently illegal to sell HST devices in Australia.

It is, however, legal to buy HST devices from overseas for personal use in Australia.

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Date: 3/04/2019 22:01:09
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1370481
Subject: re: AIDS home test kit?

mollwollfumble said:

So, how does rapid testing detect the HIV?


When I was in high school I wrote a screenplay about a girl who was waiting on HIV results. Back then it took 6 weeks for a result.

Similarly, in an episode of Degrassi High, Spike is looking for a pregnancy test and chooses one which promises results in “only” an hour. These days a pee-on-stick Type only takes a minute or so.

I guess it’s down to better detection, but I don’t know the specifics.

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Date: 3/04/2019 22:05:12
From: party_pants
ID: 1370483
Subject: re: AIDS home test kit?

Divine Angel said:


mollwollfumble said:

So, how does rapid testing detect the HIV?


When I was in high school I wrote a screenplay about a girl who was waiting on HIV results. Back then it took 6 weeks for a result.

Similarly, in an episode of Degrassi High, Spike is looking for a pregnancy test and chooses one which promises results in “only” an hour. These days a pee-on-stick Type only takes a minute or so.

I guess it’s down to better detection, but I don’t know the specifics.

Back in the 90s it was about 2-3 months. A mate of mine got drunk, and went home with an older woman and did unprotected things. He had a long wait to get the all clear.

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Date: 4/04/2019 02:53:18
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1370522
Subject: re: AIDS home test kit?

party_pants said:


Divine Angel said:

mollwollfumble said:

So, how does rapid testing detect the HIV?


When I was in high school I wrote a screenplay about a girl who was waiting on HIV results. Back then it took 6 weeks for a result.

Similarly, in an episode of Degrassi High, Spike is looking for a pregnancy test and chooses one which promises results in “only” an hour. These days a pee-on-stick Type only takes a minute or so.

I guess it’s down to better detection, but I don’t know the specifics.

Back in the 90s it was about 2-3 months. A mate of mine got drunk, and went home with an older woman and did unprotected things. He had a long wait to get the all clear.

Is this relevant? These are actually tests for herpes, but would tests for HIV be similar?

J Clin Microbiol. 1992 Feb; 30(2): 522–524.
Comparison of four techniques for detection of antibodies to cytomegalovirus

“Four serological methods were compared and evaluated for use in detecting cytomegalovirus antibody in blood and organ donors. Western blotting (immunoblotting), latex agglutination, enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay, and a recent available microparticle enzyme immunosorbent assay were used. … Comparison of the assays showed a moderate number of false-positive results,with a range of 1.1% for the ELISA, 4.4% for the IB, 7.8% for the LA, and 10.0% for the MEIA.”

“Rapid HIV Test. Using technology similar to that of an ELISA … Current HIV antibody tests are often referred to as 2nd generation (detecting IgG antibodies), 3rd generation (detecting both IgM and IgG antibodies), and 4th generation (detecting both HIV antibody and the p24 antigen, which comes directly from the HIV virus).” from http://hivinsite.ucsf.edu/insite?page=basics-01-01

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELISA and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagnosis_of_HIV/AIDS

3 Types
3.1 Direct ELISA
3.2 Sandwich ELISA
3.3 Competitive ELISA
3.4 Reverse ELISA

In an ELISA test, a person’s serum is diluted 400-fold and applied to a plate to which HIV antigens have been attached. If antibodies to HIV are present in the serum, they may bind to these HIV antigens. The plate is then washed to remove all other components of the serum. A specially prepared “secondary antibody” — an antibody that binds to human antibodies — is then applied to the plate, followed by another wash. This secondary antibody is chemically linked in advance to an enzyme. Thus the plate will contain enzyme in proportion to the amount of secondary antibody bound to the plate. A substrate for the enzyme is applied, and catalysis by the enzyme leads to a change in color or fluorescence.

I’m still not there. Rapid Detection Tests for HIV are specifically referred to as not ELISA in some sources.

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Date: 4/04/2019 03:02:03
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1370524
Subject: re: AIDS home test kit?

mollwollfumble said:


party_pants said:

Divine Angel said:

When I was in high school I wrote a screenplay about a girl who was waiting on HIV results. Back then it took 6 weeks for a result.

Similarly, in an episode of Degrassi High, Spike is looking for a pregnancy test and chooses one which promises results in “only” an hour. These days a pee-on-stick Type only takes a minute or so.

I guess it’s down to better detection, but I don’t know the specifics.

Back in the 90s it was about 2-3 months. A mate of mine got drunk, and went home with an older woman and did unprotected things. He had a long wait to get the all clear.

Is this relevant? These are actually tests for herpes, but would tests for HIV be similar?

J Clin Microbiol. 1992 Feb; 30(2): 522–524.
Comparison of four techniques for detection of antibodies to cytomegalovirus

“Four serological methods were compared and evaluated for use in detecting cytomegalovirus antibody in blood and organ donors. Western blotting (immunoblotting), latex agglutination, enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay, and a recent available microparticle enzyme immunosorbent assay were used. … Comparison of the assays showed a moderate number of false-positive results,with a range of 1.1% for the ELISA, 4.4% for the IB, 7.8% for the LA, and 10.0% for the MEIA.”

“Rapid HIV Test. Using technology similar to that of an ELISA … Current HIV antibody tests are often referred to as 2nd generation (detecting IgG antibodies), 3rd generation (detecting both IgM and IgG antibodies), and 4th generation (detecting both HIV antibody and the p24 antigen, which comes directly from the HIV virus).” from http://hivinsite.ucsf.edu/insite?page=basics-01-01

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELISA and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagnosis_of_HIV/AIDS

3 Types
3.1 Direct ELISA
3.2 Sandwich ELISA
3.3 Competitive ELISA
3.4 Reverse ELISA

In an ELISA test, a person’s serum is diluted 400-fold and applied to a plate to which HIV antigens have been attached. If antibodies to HIV are present in the serum, they may bind to these HIV antigens. The plate is then washed to remove all other components of the serum. A specially prepared “secondary antibody” — an antibody that binds to human antibodies — is then applied to the plate, followed by another wash. This secondary antibody is chemically linked in advance to an enzyme. Thus the plate will contain enzyme in proportion to the amount of secondary antibody bound to the plate. A substrate for the enzyme is applied, and catalysis by the enzyme leads to a change in color or fluorescence.

I’m still not there. Rapid Detection Tests for HIV are specifically referred to as not ELISA in some sources.

Perhaps this is a better guide. http://i-base.info/guides/testing/appendix-3-how-hiv-tests-work

ELISA detection of HIV, wikipedia referred to this as sandwich ELISA.

Rapid tests are a simplified version of antibody ELISA tests. They look for HIV antibodies in the blood. The antigens for HIV are fixed on one particular strip along the rapid test stick. Towards the end of the testing stick are control antigens to show that the test worked.

A sample is placed at the end of the testing stick. A chemical, called a buffer, to facilitate the testing process is added.

The chemical causes the antibodies in the blood to flow along the test stick. When they pass over the section with the antigens, if there are any antibodies for HIV present then they will stick to these antigens and change colour.

Once the test is complete, if there is one stripe it means it is a negative result. If there are two stripes then it means it’s a positive result. If there are no stripes it means the test did not work properly.

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Date: 4/04/2019 16:39:04
From: bucolic3401
ID: 1370754
Subject: re: AIDS home test kit?

At my age this kit, free or not, will not be required.

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Date: 4/04/2019 16:42:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 1370761
Subject: re: AIDS home test kit?

bucolic3401 said:


At my age this kit, free or not, will not be required.

:) I’ve been tested a couple of times anyway. If I didn’t know it before, it has been confirmed. They did those tests because they were required due to the diagnnostic stuff that speciaalists do but if they’d asked me, I could simply say I’ve never had contact with the disease or it’s carriers.

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Date: 4/04/2019 16:42:48
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1370762
Subject: re: AIDS home test kit?

roughbarked said:


bucolic3401 said:

At my age this kit, free or not, will not be required.

:) I’ve been tested a couple of times anyway. If I didn’t know it before, it has been confirmed. They did those tests because they were required due to the diagnnostic stuff that speciaalists do but if they’d asked me, I could simply say I’ve never had contact with the disease or it’s carriers.

How’d you know? Do the carriers walk around with signs on their head?

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Date: 4/04/2019 16:44:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 1370764
Subject: re: AIDS home test kit?

poikilotherm said:


roughbarked said:

bucolic3401 said:

At my age this kit, free or not, will not be required.

:) I’ve been tested a couple of times anyway. If I didn’t know it before, it has been confirmed. They did those tests because they were required due to the diagnnostic stuff that speciaalists do but if they’d asked me, I could simply say I’ve never had contact with the disease or it’s carriers.

How’d you know? Do the carriers walk around with signs on their head?

Clearly not. If that is all they have to do with the disease. The main thing is that I didn’t exchange spit with them anyway.

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Date: 4/04/2019 16:48:15
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1370767
Subject: re: AIDS home test kit?

roughbarked said:


poikilotherm said:

roughbarked said:

:) I’ve been tested a couple of times anyway. If I didn’t know it before, it has been confirmed. They did those tests because they were required due to the diagnnostic stuff that speciaalists do but if they’d asked me, I could simply say I’ve never had contact with the disease or it’s carriers.

How’d you know? Do the carriers walk around with signs on their head?

Clearly not. If that is all they have to do with the disease. The main thing is that I didn’t exchange spit with them anyway.

hiv don’t spread through saliva.

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Date: 4/04/2019 16:50:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 1370768
Subject: re: AIDS home test kit?

poikilotherm said:


roughbarked said:

poikilotherm said:

How’d you know? Do the carriers walk around with signs on their head?

Clearly not. If that is all they have to do with the disease. The main thing is that I didn’t exchange spit with them anyway.

hiv don’t spread through saliva.

Well, you took me to actually mean saliva. Spit often can mean different things..

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Date: 4/04/2019 22:30:28
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1370936
Subject: re: AIDS home test kit?

roughbarked said:


poikilotherm said:

roughbarked said:

Clearly not. If that is all they have to do with the disease. The main thing is that I didn’t exchange spit with them anyway.

hiv don’t spread through saliva.

Well, you took me to actually mean saliva. Spit often can mean different things..


There’s also a card game called Spit.

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Date: 4/04/2019 22:37:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 1370939
Subject: re: AIDS home test kit?

Divine Angel said:


roughbarked said:

poikilotherm said:

hiv don’t spread through saliva.

Well, you took me to actually mean saliva. Spit often can mean different things..


There’s also a card game called Spit.

So, how is it played?

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Date: 4/04/2019 22:38:39
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1370941
Subject: re: AIDS home test kit?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spit_(card_game)

I am unaware of anyone catching HIV through this card game.

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Date: 4/04/2019 22:58:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 1370949
Subject: re: AIDS home test kit?

Divine Angel said:


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spit_(card_game)

I am unaware of anyone catching HIV through this card game.

as you would. ta.

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