Fun election drinking game: every time ScoMo is still Prime Minister, do a shot.

dv said:

Fun election drinking game: every time ScoMo is still Prime Minister, do a shot.

Huh? At what interval?

Finally. THE thread.

party_pants said:

dv said:

Fun election drinking game: every time ScoMo is still Prime Minister, do a shot.

Huh? At what interval?

A teetotaller version would be every time Bob Katter is not elected.

https://votecompass.abc.net.au/

Tau.Neutrino said:

https://votecompass.abc.net.au/

Vote Compass is a tool developed by political scientists for exploring how your views align with those of the candidates

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

https://votecompass.abc.net.au/

Vote Compass is a tool developed by political scientists for exploring how your views align with those of the candidates

It’s a joke site.

Tau.Neutrino said:

https://votecompass.abc.net.au/

I did it yesterday and of course it plonked me more or less in the middle because it asked a lot of questions I thought were irrelevant or minor – so I answered neutrally to a lot of the questions. It also seemed to think I was more socially conservative than the ALP, which is not really true.

party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

https://votecompass.abc.net.au/

I did it yesterday and of course it plonked me more or less in the middle because it asked a lot of questions I thought were irrelevant or minor – so I answered neutrally to a lot of the questions. It also seemed to think I was more socially conservative than the ALP, which is not really true.

Yes, and how come the parties are represented by a single point?

Surely they should have a rounded shape with fuzzy edges.

The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

https://votecompass.abc.net.au/

I did it yesterday and of course it plonked me more or less in the middle because it asked a lot of questions I thought were irrelevant or minor – so I answered neutrally to a lot of the questions. It also seemed to think I was more socially conservative than the ALP, which is not really true.

Yes, and how come the parties are represented by a single point?

Surely they should have a rounded shape with fuzzy edges.

Yes, I was thinking that, maybe they could split the major parties into their factions and post where those factions lie. But I guess they have are going on the official party manifesto statements (or similar – we don’t really do manifestos as such in Australia).

party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

I did it yesterday and of course it plonked me more or less in the middle because it asked a lot of questions I thought were irrelevant or minor – so I answered neutrally to a lot of the questions. It also seemed to think I was more socially conservative than the ALP, which is not really true.

Yes, and how come the parties are represented by a single point?

Surely they should have a rounded shape with fuzzy edges.

Yes, I was thinking that, maybe they could split the major parties into their factions and post where those factions lie. But I guess they have are going on the official party manifesto statements (or similar – we don’t really do manifestos as such in Australia).

-have

bad edit.

I wish there were more Wilkies.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/12/tony-abbott-peter-dutton-who-will-lose-their-seat-in-election-2019?fbclid=IwAR1ykxNoKAbF1YfTXvU7KFPRpbOl0SyK94OU36BX-FGAcEVt-FrurSlJD7E
—-

Frydenberg DV?
first dog predicts a vast swing against him?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/12/tony-abbott-peter-dutton-who-will-lose-their-seat-in-election-2019?fbclid=IwAR1ykxNoKAbF1YfTXvU7KFPRpbOl0SyK94OU36BX-FGAcEVt-FrurSlJD7E

There’s no way Kooyong will go ALP.

So it is a matter of whether Oliver Yates (or perhaps someone else) can do a Phelps.

sibeen said:

Candidates

Sarwar Hasan (United Australia)
Bill Shorten (Labor)
Christine Stow (Liberal)

Decisions, decisions.

There’s still another 10 days for candidates to nominate.

If you’re interested.

dv said:

sibeen said:

Candidates

Sarwar Hasan (United Australia)
Bill Shorten (Labor)
Christine Stow (Liberal)

Decisions, decisions.

There’s still another 10 days for candidates to nominate.

If you’re interested.

You missed our discussion this morning on forming the SSSF party.

dv said:

sibeen said:

Candidates

Sarwar Hasan (United Australia)
Bill Shorten (Labor)
Christine Stow (Liberal)

Decisions, decisions.

There’s still another 10 days for candidates to nominate.

If you’re interested.

But the UAP already has a candidate running.

confused from Essendon

There will be 151 divisions (and hence 151 MPs to be elected) in the upcoming election.

This is due to an unusual and rare mathematical situation that has led to the ACT qualifying for 3 seats. The new ACT division is called Bean.

The Division of Port Adelaide has been abolished. There’s a new division in Victoria called Fraser.

sibeen said:

dv said:

sibeen said:

Candidates

Sarwar Hasan (United Australia)
Bill Shorten (Labor)
Christine Stow (Liberal)

Decisions, decisions.

There’s still another 10 days for candidates to nominate.

If you’re interested.

But the UAP already has a candidate running.

confused from Essendon

They’ve been running campaign ads on the radio for 3 months.

dv said:

The Division of Port Adelaide has been abolished. There’s a new division in Victoria called Fraser.

Which ironically will be a very safe Labor seat :)

sibeen said:

But the UAP already has a candidate running.

confused from Essendon

I didn’t say they have to wait another 10 days, I said there’s another 10 days for candidates to nominate.

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

dv said:

There’s still another 10 days for candidates to nominate.

If you’re interested.

But the UAP already has a candidate running.

confused from Essendon

They’ve been running campaign ads on the radio for 3 months.

Not on RRR they haven’t. I wish they would, just the one, the outcry would be fun.

RRR has a very left/green listening demographic.

dv said:

There will be 151 divisions (and hence 151 MPs to be elected) in the upcoming election.

This is due to an unusual and rare mathematical situation that has led to the ACT qualifying for 3 seats. The new ACT division is called Bean.

The Division of Port Adelaide has been abolished. There’s a new division in Victoria called Fraser.

>>The new ACT division is called Bean. <<

Go on, you made that name up!

sibeen said:

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

But the UAP already has a candidate running.

confused from Essendon

They’ve been running campaign ads on the radio for 3 months.

Not on RRR they haven’t. I wish they would, just the one, the outcry would be fun.

RRR has a very left/green listening demographic.

meh, stick your boutique radio station up your RRRs.

buffy said:

dv said:

There will be 151 divisions (and hence 151 MPs to be elected) in the upcoming election.

This is due to an unusual and rare mathematical situation that has led to the ACT qualifying for 3 seats. The new ACT division is called Bean.

The Division of Port Adelaide has been abolished. There’s a new division in Victoria called Fraser.

>>The new ACT division is called Bean. <<

Go on, you made that name up!

dv said:

tough sub

dv said:

dv said:

tough sub

I got it. I think it’s clever.

dv said:

dv said:

tough sub

I can’t remember who the egg is.

dv said:

dv said:

tough sub

i didn’t want to encourage you by laughing.

dv said:

sibeen said:

Candidates

Sarwar Hasan (United Australia)
Bill Shorten (Labor)
Christine Stow (Liberal)

Decisions, decisions.

There’s still another 10 days for candidates to nominate.

If you’re interested.

Ta.

The election at this point is not looking close but I suppose a lot can happen in 5 weeks.

JudgeMental said:

i didn’t want to encourage you by laughing.

wise

buffy said:

dv said:

There will be 151 divisions (and hence 151 MPs to be elected) in the upcoming election.

This is due to an unusual and rare mathematical situation that has led to the ACT qualifying for 3 seats. The new ACT division is called Bean.

The Division of Port Adelaide has been abolished. There’s a new division in Victoria called Fraser.

>>The new ACT division is called Bean. <<

Go on, you made that name up!

I just checked, and it seems he didn’t.

But I presume it will be Mr Bean, when given its full title.

dv said:

The election at this point is not looking close but I suppose a lot can happen in 5 weeks.

Which is why I mentioned Tampa the other evening.

sibeen said:

dv said:

The election at this point is not looking close but I suppose a lot can happen in 5 weeks.

Which is why I mentioned Tampa the other evening.

I’m sure that trick can’t work a fifth time.

sibeen said:

dv said:

The election at this point is not looking close but I suppose a lot can happen in 5 weeks.

Which is why I mentioned Tampa the other evening.

Could Assange be a reverse Tampa?
What about Christchurch last month.

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

dv said:

The election at this point is not looking close but I suppose a lot can happen in 5 weeks.

Which is why I mentioned Tampa the other evening.

Could Assange be a reverse Tampa?
What about Christchurch last month.

I’m in the bubble … it’s hard for me to assess. It’s hard to see the Assange news changing the way many people in Australia vote, and any impact from Christchurch would already be in the polls.

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

dv said:

tough sub

I can’t remember who the egg is.

Fraser Anning

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

tough sub

I can’t remember who the egg is.

Fraser Anning

I get it now.

:)

The Rev Dodgson said:

buffy said:

dv said:

There will be 151 divisions (and hence 151 MPs to be elected) in the upcoming election.

This is due to an unusual and rare mathematical situation that has led to the ACT qualifying for 3 seats. The new ACT division is called Bean.

The Division of Port Adelaide has been abolished. There’s a new division in Victoria called Fraser.

>>The new ACT division is called Bean. <<

Go on, you made that name up!

I just checked, and it seems he didn’t.

But I presume it will be Mr Bean, when given its full title.

… and with a little further research I learn that it was Charles Bean, and also that Monash was Jewish with German parents.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-14/federal-election-2019-day-four-sausages-and-onions/11001686

LOL

Michael V said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-14/federal-election-2019-day-four-sausages-and-onions/11001686

LOL

TMI

sings

“Clive’s a bloody liar,
Clive’s a bloody thief’
Australia’s not going to take it,
Any more.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-15/clive-palmer-offers-to-pay-back-queensland-nickel-workers/11003030

Michael V said:

sings

“Clive’s a bloody liar,
Clive’s a bloody thief’
Australia’s not going to take it,
Any more.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-15/clive-palmer-offers-to-pay-back-queensland-nickel-workers/11003030

Yeah it’s sounds like the old “I promise to think about thinking about doing the right thing after the election, and no the idea had not occurred to me earlier”.

Clive makes a lot of promises but seems unsure on how to actually deliver. Much like his businesses, really.

But what makes me laugh is the ads where he and his candidates say “fifty thousand million dollars”.

party_pants said:

Michael V said:

sings

“Clive’s a bloody liar,
Clive’s a bloody thief’
Australia’s not going to take it,
Any more.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-15/clive-palmer-offers-to-pay-back-queensland-nickel-workers/11003030

Yeah it’s sounds like the old “I promise to think about thinking about doing the right thing after the election, and no the idea had not occurred to me earlier”.

I would be quite amusing if Dee Synder ran against Clive Palmer, he obviously can’t as he isn’t an Australian citizen perhaps doing ads for someone against Clive Palmer.

“I wrote this song and didn’t give this fat bastard permission to use it, vote for the party that gives out free perms to hair farmers”

Cymek said:

party_pants said:

Michael V said:

sings

“Clive’s a bloody liar,
Clive’s a bloody thief’
Australia’s not going to take it,
Any more.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-15/clive-palmer-offers-to-pay-back-queensland-nickel-workers/11003030

Yeah it’s sounds like the old “I promise to think about thinking about doing the right thing after the election, and no the idea had not occurred to me earlier”.

I would be quite amusing if Dee Synder ran against Clive Palmer, he obviously can’t as he isn’t an Australian citizen perhaps doing ads for someone against Clive Palmer.

“I wrote this song and didn’t give this fat bastard permission to use it, vote for the party that gives out free perms to hair farmers”

That would be Federal hairesy.

Tamb said:

Cymek said:

party_pants said:

Yeah it’s sounds like the old “I promise to think about thinking about doing the right thing after the election, and no the idea had not occurred to me earlier”.

I would be quite amusing if Dee Synder ran against Clive Palmer, he obviously can’t as he isn’t an Australian citizen perhaps doing ads for someone against Clive Palmer.

“I wrote this song and didn’t give this fat bastard permission to use it, vote for the party that gives out free perms to hair farmers”

That would be Federal hairesy.

Groan

Cymek said:

Tamb said:

Cymek said:

I would be quite amusing if Dee Synder ran against Clive Palmer, he obviously can’t as he isn’t an Australian citizen perhaps doing ads for someone against Clive Palmer.

“I wrote this song and didn’t give this fat bastard permission to use it, vote for the party that gives out free perms to hair farmers”

That would be Federal hairesy.

Groan

I duz wot I can.

Tamb said:

Cymek said:

Tamb said:

That would be Federal hairesy.

Groan

I duz wot I can.

You’d be remiss to not make a pun even if it was terrible, I try not to

Cymek said:

Tamb said:

Cymek said:

Groan

I duz wot I can.

You’d be remiss to not make a pun even if it was terrible, I try not to

Yes. It would be a remission of guilt.

This is similar to VoteCompass but has more detailed results including better graphs:

https://www.theage.com.au/federal-election-2019/introducing-smartvote-australia-take-the-test-ahead-of-the-federal-election-20190429-p51ibu.html

Now… who to put last?

Divine Angel said:

Now… who to put last?

Christ :)

Divine Angel said:

Now… who to put last?

Anning last
reddy
hopkins
howarth
kennedy
mulholland

ChrispenEvan said:

Divine Angel said:

Now… who to put last?

Anning last
reddy
hopkins
howarth
kennedy
mulholland

My electorate is listed as a “key seat”. We swing more than a playground flying fox in the wind.

Divine Angel said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Divine Angel said:

Now… who to put last?

Anning last
reddy
hopkins
howarth
kennedy
mulholland

My electorate is listed as a “key seat”. We swing more than a playground flying fox in the wind.

vote early and vote often then.

Divine Angel said:

Now… who to put last?

We’ve got 8 candidates, of which 4 are worthy of last spot.

ROFL.

SWMBO has just told me she voted today but was very confused. In our electorate there’s four on the ballot. Lib, Lab, Green and UAP. What really threw her was that the bloke who handed her the UAP was a quite dark Indian gent. She said it took her a few double takes to work out what was what.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/may/07/the-fact-the-liberal-launch-wont-be-about-the-liberals-exposes-the-partys-emptiness

sibeen said:

ROFL.

SWMBO has just told me she voted today but was very confused. In our electorate there’s four on the ballot. Lib, Lab, Green and UAP. What really threw her was that the bloke who handed her the UAP was a quite dark Indian gent. She said it took her a few double takes to work out what was what.

No Fraser Anning’s National Socialist Party in your area?

We’ve got 8. ALP, Greens. Liberal, PHON, Clive Plamers Fatsos, Fraser Annings, Western Australia Party, and Australian Christians.

Hard to know which to put last. I normally put the christians party last. But I might have to change that.

sibeen said:

ROFL.

SWMBO has just told me she voted today but was very confused. In our electorate there’s four on the ballot. Lib, Lab, Green and UAP. What really threw her was that the bloke who handed her the UAP was a quite dark Indian gent. She said it took her a few double takes to work out what was what.

I’ve been thinking up an election slogan:

“Liberal isn’t, Labor isn’t. Greens aren’t.”

Liberals are the most secretive, regimented, group in Australia. It treats its politicians much worse than negro slaves were ever treated.

Labor lost every connection to the working classes more than 20 years ago.

Greens are doing their best to stop natural forest growth and plankton growth. They’re luddites with a research budget.

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

ROFL.

SWMBO has just told me she voted today but was very confused. In our electorate there’s four on the ballot. Lib, Lab, Green and UAP. What really threw her was that the bloke who handed her the UAP was a quite dark Indian gent. She said it took her a few double takes to work out what was what.

No Fraser Anning’s National Socialist Party in your area?

We’ve got 8. ALP, Greens. Liberal, PHON, Clive Plamers Fatsos, Fraser Annings, Western Australia Party, and Australian Christians.

Hard to know which to put last. I normally put the christians party last. But I might have to change that.

My Senate BTL ticket is going to be a right fucker to decide. Who is going to get the coveted spot? There’s many that try but the vast majority fail. Who is going to be the real fucktard in this year’s election and get sibeen’s coveted raspberry for being last on his ticket?

mollwollfumble said:

Liberals are the most secretive, regimented, group in Australia. It treats its politicians much worse than negro slaves were ever treated.

Christos.

sibeen said:

mollwollfumble said:

Liberals are the most secretive, regimented, group in Australia. It treats its politicians much worse than negro slaves were ever treated.

Christos.

Welcome to the forum. Moll likes to make outrageous statements but then fails to respond to any replies.

mollwollfumble said:

sibeen said:

ROFL.

SWMBO has just told me she voted today but was very confused. In our electorate there’s four on the ballot. Lib, Lab, Green and UAP. What really threw her was that the bloke who handed her the UAP was a quite dark Indian gent. She said it took her a few double takes to work out what was what.

I’ve been thinking up an election slogan:

“Liberal isn’t, Labor isn’t. Greens aren’t.”

Liberals are the most secretive, regimented, group in Australia. It treats its politicians much worse than negro slaves were ever treated.

Labor lost every connection to the working classes more than 20 years ago.

Greens are doing their best to stop natural forest growth and plankton growth. They’re luddites with a research budget.

I think I know more Greens than most. And I know the Tassie Green is a different animal to some other Greens. But most of the local Greens are female and over 60s.

I was thinking tonight that I do know two militant vegans. Female. 50s. One Masters and one PhD. Both will cite sources ad infinitum. One of them grew up on a reasonably intensive farm. and they would definitely be voting Green. I don’t think you can value the Green commuity by them tho.

Well, I just found who goes last on the senate vote.

mollwollfumble said:

sibeen said:

ROFL.

SWMBO has just told me she voted today but was very confused. In our electorate there’s four on the ballot. Lib, Lab, Green and UAP. What really threw her was that the bloke who handed her the UAP was a quite dark Indian gent. She said it took her a few double takes to work out what was what.

I’ve been thinking up an election slogan:

“Liberal isn’t, Labor isn’t. Greens aren’t.”

Liberals are the most secretive, regimented, group in Australia. It treats its politicians much worse than negro slaves were ever treated.

Labor lost every connection to the working classes more than 20 years ago.

Greens are doing their best to stop natural forest growth and plankton growth. They’re luddites with a research budget.

You do come out with some utter crap at times.

Witty Rejoinder said:

sibeen said:

mollwollfumble said:

Liberals are the most secretive, regimented, group in Australia. It treats its politicians much worse than negro slaves were ever treated.

Christos.

Welcome to the forum. Moll likes to make outrageous statements but then fails to respond to any replies.

Damn

Sucked in.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

sibeen said:

Christos.

Welcome to the forum. Moll likes to make outrageous statements but then fails to respond to any replies.

Damn

Sucked in.

good to see that other see Moll in the same light I do. and it isn’t a good one. thank fuck he doesn’t work as a “scientist” any more.

ChrispenEvan said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Welcome to the forum. Moll likes to make outrageous statements but then fails to respond to any replies.

Damn

Sucked in.

good to see that other see Moll in the same light I do. and it isn’t a good one. thank fuck he doesn’t work as a “scientist” any more.

I think that’s way over the top.

1) He does respond sometimes.
2) Even if he doesn’t, provocative statements are good.

OK, my notes on the Victorian Senate Ballot paper candidates. Not in any order at the moment:

The Great Australian Party – right wing nutters

Yellow Vest Australia – anti muslim

Health Australia Party – anti vax

Australian Conservatives – Cory Bernadi + Family first

FRASER ANNING’S CONSERVATIVE NATIONAL PARTY – completely batshit

Sustainable Australia – anti immigration

Australian Labor Party – left wing nutters

Rise Up Australia Party – right wing nutters

The Greens (VIC) – see ALP

Animal Justice Party – probably vegan

Australian Workers Party – left wing ALP

VOTEFLUX.ORG | Upgrade Democracy! – vote for the death penalty

Pirate Party – completely rational

Pauline Hanson’s One Nation – I used to own a chip shop

Labour DLP – Catholic ALP

Secular Party of Australia – probably atheist

Liberal Democrats – potato heads natural party

Independents For Climate Action Now – independents who are in a party, are they on drugs

Australian Democrats – they’re still a thing?

Citizens Electoral Council – not in any way sane

Help End Marijuana Prohibition (HEMP) Party – no idea what these people want

Derryn Hinch’s Justice Party – lock up everybody

Climate Action! Immigration Action! Accountable Politicians! – they love colons

Shooters, Fishers and Farmers – guns, guns, guns

United Australia Party – Fat Clive + crnies

Christian Democratic Party (Fred Nile Group) – I find it difficult to believe Fred is still alive.

The Small Business Party – right wing liberal

Socialist Equality Party – commies

Republican Party of Australia – god save the queen

Liberal – right wing nutters

I haven’t looked at the Senate ticket yet.

I’m going to have trouble finding 6 parties above the line that deserve a vote.

• OK, my notes on the Victorian Senate Ballot paper candidates

Way more choice than i had, struggled to get to 12…

Climate Action! Immigration Action! Accountable Politicians!

Cool, are they going to triple immigration so we can finally get a proper number of people on this empty continent?

sibeen said:

OK, my notes on the Victorian Senate Ballot paper candidates. Not in any order at the moment:

The Great Australian Party – right wing nutters

Yellow Vest Australia – anti muslim

Health Australia Party – anti vax

Australian Conservatives – Cory Bernadi + Family first

FRASER ANNING’S CONSERVATIVE NATIONAL PARTY – completely batshit

Sustainable Australia – anti immigration

Australian Labor Party – left wing nutters

Rise Up Australia Party – right wing nutters

The Greens (VIC) – see ALP

Animal Justice Party – probably vegan

Australian Workers Party – left wing ALP

VOTEFLUX.ORG | Upgrade Democracy! – vote for the death penalty

Pirate Party – completely rational

Pauline Hanson’s One Nation – I used to own a chip shop

Labour DLP – Catholic ALP

Secular Party of Australia – probably atheist

Liberal Democrats – potato heads natural party

Independents For Climate Action Now – independents who are in a party, are they on drugs

Australian Democrats – they’re still a thing?

Citizens Electoral Council – not in any way sane

Help End Marijuana Prohibition (HEMP) Party – no idea what these people want

Derryn Hinch’s Justice Party – lock up everybody

Climate Action! Immigration Action! Accountable Politicians! – they love colons

Shooters, Fishers and Farmers – guns, guns, guns

United Australia Party – Fat Clive + crnies

Christian Democratic Party (Fred Nile Group) – I find it difficult to believe Fred is still alive.

The Small Business Party – right wing liberal

Socialist Equality Party – commies

Republican Party of Australia – god save the queen

Liberal – right wing nutters

LOL

Can I pinch that?

dv said:

Climate Action! Immigration Action! Accountable Politicians!

Cool, are they going to triple immigration so we can finally get a proper number of people on this empty continent?

No.

Rule 303 said:

sibeen said:

OK, my notes on the Victorian Senate Ballot paper candidates. Not in any order at the moment:

The Great Australian Party – right wing nutters

Yellow Vest Australia – anti muslim

Health Australia Party – anti vax

Australian Conservatives – Cory Bernadi + Family first

FRASER ANNING’S CONSERVATIVE NATIONAL PARTY – completely batshit

Sustainable Australia – anti immigration

Australian Labor Party – left wing nutters

Rise Up Australia Party – right wing nutters

The Greens (VIC) – see ALP

Animal Justice Party – probably vegan

Australian Workers Party – left wing ALP

VOTEFLUX.ORG | Upgrade Democracy! – vote for the death penalty

Pirate Party – completely rational

Pauline Hanson’s One Nation – I used to own a chip shop

Labour DLP – Catholic ALP

Secular Party of Australia – probably atheist

Liberal Democrats – potato heads natural party

Independents For Climate Action Now – independents who are in a party, are they on drugs

Australian Democrats – they’re still a thing?

Citizens Electoral Council – not in any way sane

Help End Marijuana Prohibition (HEMP) Party – no idea what these people want

Derryn Hinch’s Justice Party – lock up everybody

Climate Action! Immigration Action! Accountable Politicians! – they love colons

Shooters, Fishers and Farmers – guns, guns, guns

United Australia Party – Fat Clive + crnies

Christian Democratic Party (Fred Nile Group) – I find it difficult to believe Fred is still alive.

The Small Business Party – right wing liberal

Socialist Equality Party – commies

Republican Party of Australia – god save the queen

Liberal – right wing nutters

LOL

Can I pinch that?

Go for you life :)

The major pollsters in Australia have a good record in federal elections, particularly when aggregated.

Here for instance are the final polling averages and actual results from the last few elections.

2016
Polls 50.9% Coalition 49.1% ALP
Results 50.4% Coalition 49.6% ALP

2013
Polls 53.7% Coalition 46.3% ALP
Results 53.5% Coalition 46.5% ALP

2010
Polls 49.8% Coalition 50.2% ALP
Results 49.9% Coalition 50.1% ALP

A polling miss of even 1% is unlikely.

The current polling average is 48.2% Coalition 51.8% ALP. The state by state analysis and seat by seat polling suggests the Coalition is doing especially badly in some marginal seats. Additionally, they face some serious challenges in normally safe seats from Independents.

The race did tighten (at one point they were 45-55) but it has been around the 48-52 mark for two months now.

From here, I think that something dramatic would have to happen in the last week for the Coalition to win. A national emergency (real or synthetic), some huge scandal in the ALP at the senior level. Shorten might be dull as dishwater but the upside of that he is not likely to make an absurd cockup.

dv said:

The major pollsters in Australia have a good record in federal elections, particularly when aggregated.

Here for instance are the final polling averages and actual results from the last few elections.

2016
Polls 50.9% Coalition 49.1% ALP
Results 50.4% Coalition 49.6% ALP

2013
Polls 53.7% Coalition 46.3% ALP
Results 53.5% Coalition 46.5% ALP

2010
Polls 49.8% Coalition 50.2% ALP
Results 49.9% Coalition 50.1% ALP

A polling miss of even 1% is unlikely.

The current polling average is 48.2% Coalition 51.8% ALP. The state by state analysis and seat by seat polling suggests the Coalition is doing especially badly in some marginal seats. Additionally, they face some serious challenges in normally safe seats from Independents.

The race did tighten (at one point they were 45-55) but it has been around the 48-52 mark for two months now.

From here, I think that something dramatic would have to happen in the last week for the Coalition to win. A national emergency (real or synthetic), some huge scandal in the ALP at the senior level. Shorten might be dull as dishwater but the upside of that he is not likely to make an absurd cockup.

I think it’s high time we tried a “dull” PM. The “charismatic” model has been failing us spectacularly.

Michael V said:

dv said:

The major pollsters in Australia have a good record in federal elections, particularly when aggregated.

Here for instance are the final polling averages and actual results from the last few elections.

2016
Polls 50.9% Coalition 49.1% ALP
Results 50.4% Coalition 49.6% ALP

2013
Polls 53.7% Coalition 46.3% ALP
Results 53.5% Coalition 46.5% ALP

2010
Polls 49.8% Coalition 50.2% ALP
Results 49.9% Coalition 50.1% ALP

A polling miss of even 1% is unlikely.

The current polling average is 48.2% Coalition 51.8% ALP. The state by state analysis and seat by seat polling suggests the Coalition is doing especially badly in some marginal seats. Additionally, they face some serious challenges in normally safe seats from Independents.

The race did tighten (at one point they were 45-55) but it has been around the 48-52 mark for two months now.

From here, I think that something dramatic would have to happen in the last week for the Coalition to win. A national emergency (real or synthetic), some huge scandal in the ALP at the senior level. Shorten might be dull as dishwater but the upside of that he is not likely to make an absurd cockup.

I think it’s high time we tried a “dull” PM. The “charismatic” model has been failing us spectacularly.

Then a leadership challenge on the basis on the leader being dull and not doing anything and then replaced by someone with more character who does things.

Having a look at the Senate candidates for WA.

Hey-Zeus, what a deplorable bunch of fuckwittingtons. It’s gunna be hard to find even 6 out of that lot.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-10/federal-election-your-guide-to-the-wa-senate-ballot/11080108

oops – better post the linky-thing

party_pants said:

Having a look at the Senate candidates for WA.

Hey-Zeus, what a deplorable bunch of fuckwittingtons. It’s gunna be hard to find even 6 out of that lot.

That was my problem when I voted early.

The Sunday Telegraph says, “time to end the worst period of political instability and cynicism since federation”, by reelecting the government.

They’ve gotta be taking the piss, right?

dv said:

The Sunday Telegraph says, “time to end the worst period of political instability and cynicism since federation”, by reelecting the government.

They’ve gotta be taking the piss, right?

Nah. It’s the new way of doing stuff. Say the opposite.

dv said:

The Sunday Telegraph says, “time to end the worst period of political instability and cynicism since federation”, by reelecting the government.

They’ve gotta be taking the piss, right?

let me guess, it was all Malcolm’s fault?

dv said:

The Sunday Telegraph says, “time to end the worst period of political instability and cynicism since federation”, by reelecting the government.

They’ve gotta be taking the piss, right?

Rupert doesn’t need money any more. And those who buy his pamphlets already agree with him.

So his mission in life is to just annoy the shit out of the rest of us.

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

The Sunday Telegraph says, “time to end the worst period of political instability and cynicism since federation”, by reelecting the government.

They’ve gotta be taking the piss, right?

Rupert doesn’t need money any more. And those who buy his pamphlets already agree with him.

So his mission in life is to just annoy the shit out of the rest of us.

This seems like a bit of a shift for Rupert. Usually he bends with the wind and will back Labor if it looks likely that they’ll win. Then he expects favours in return for supporting them. This time has been a little bit different with Bill deciding not to meet with Rupert, and Rudd coming out and saying that accepting Rupert’s help previously was a decision he regretted. If Bill wins on Saturday it might be for the first time in ages that the eection has gone against Rupert’s call, and it might break the illusion of power he seems to wield.

dv said:

The Sunday Telegraph says, “time to end the worst period of political instability and cynicism since federation”, by reelecting the government.

They’ve gotta be taking the piss, right?

Their regular readers lap it all up. Piss and all.

party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

The Sunday Telegraph says, “time to end the worst period of political instability and cynicism since federation”, by reelecting the government.

They’ve gotta be taking the piss, right?

Rupert doesn’t need money any more. And those who buy his pamphlets already agree with him.

So his mission in life is to just annoy the shit out of the rest of us.

This seems like a bit of a shift for Rupert. Usually he bends with the wind and will back Labor if it looks likely that they’ll win. Then he expects favours in return for supporting them. This time has been a little bit different with Bill deciding not to meet with Rupert, and Rudd coming out and saying that accepting Rupert’s help previously was a decision he regretted. If Bill wins on Saturday it might be for the first time in ages that the eection has gone against Rupert’s call, and it might break the illusion of power he seems to wield.

If so, that could be a good outcome.

> Welcome to the forum. Moll likes to make outrageous statements but then fails to respond to any replies.

Of course. I refuse to argue. You can either agree with me or disagree. Half the time, i don’t even agree with me.

quote=sibeen]
OK, my notes on the Victorian Senate Ballot paper candidates. Not in any order at the moment:

The Great Australian Party – right wing nutters

Yellow Vest Australia – anti muslim

Health Australia Party – anti vax

Australian Conservatives – Cory Bernadi + Family first

FRASER ANNING’S CONSERVATIVE NATIONAL PARTY – completely batshit

Sustainable Australia – anti immigration

Australian Labor Party – left wing nutters

Rise Up Australia Party – right wing nutters

The Greens (VIC) – see ALP

Animal Justice Party – probably vegan

Australian Workers Party – left wing ALP

VOTEFLUX.ORG | Upgrade Democracy! – vote for the death penalty

Pirate Party – completely rational

Pauline Hanson’s One Nation – I used to own a chip shop

Labour DLP – Catholic ALP

Secular Party of Australia – probably atheist

Liberal Democrats – potato heads natural party

Independents For Climate Action Now – independents who are in a party, are they on drugs

Australian Democrats – they’re still a thing?

Citizens Electoral Council – not in any way sane

Help End Marijuana Prohibition (HEMP) Party – no idea what these people want

Derryn Hinch’s Justice Party – lock up everybody

Climate Action! Immigration Action! Accountable Politicians! – they love colons

Shooters, Fishers and Farmers – guns, guns, guns

United Australia Party – Fat Clive + crnies

Christian Democratic Party (Fred Nile Group) – I find it difficult to believe Fred is still alive.

The Small Business Party – right wing liberal

Socialist Equality Party – commies

Republican Party of Australia – god save the queen

Liberal – right wing nutters

Thank you sibeeen. That saves me heaps of work!
That narrows down the sensible selections enormously.
I’ll print that out and take it along when i vote.

Liberal party formally warned after breaching electoral laws

Party failed to properly authorise content appearing on Sydney Morning Herald, New Daily and Medical Daily sites

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/may/14/liberal-party-formally-warned-after-breaching-electoral-laws?CMP=soc_567

dv said:

Liberal party formally warned after breaching electoral laws

Party failed to properly authorise content appearing on Sydney Morning Herald, New Daily and Medical Daily sites

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/may/14/liberal-party-formally-warned-after-breaching-electoral-laws?CMP=soc_567

Seems the party fails at almost everything, including using Clive Palmer’s advertising.

A Facebook account linked to Clive Palmer’s United Australia party paid to disseminate an ad for the Queensland LNP.

On Sunday, a UAP-linked Facebook account named Australia Watch Nowspread an ad championing rival candidate, Brad Carswell, who is standing for the LNP in the Brisbane seat of Lilley.

UAP candidates scramble for volunteers as Clive Palmer campaigns from Fiji

 

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The slickly produced video is a 35-second profile on Carswell, detailing his work in abattoirs, pubs, trucking and trimming trees, all with the LNP logo visible in the top right corner.

The Australia Watch Now page appears to be run by the UAP. It uses the party’s distinctive yellow branding, shares UAP campaign material, and is authorised to an “S Sokolova, United Australia Party” in Brisbane.

The ad for Carswell has since been removed.

The UAP and Liberal parties struck a preference deal in the early stages of the campaign, and Palmer’s party has seen its primary vote hit about 5% in recent Newspolls, thanks largely to a massive ad spend. The deal could prove crucial in key marginal seats and gives Palmer a greater chance of taking back a Senate spot.

Paid Facebook ads are effective because they can be targeted at a particular audience, but remain largely hidden from the broader public, unless users know where to look.

Questions have been raised about the overlap of the Liberals’ campaign with the UAP, with images emerging of Liberals handing out UAP campaign material, including in the marginal seat of Dunkley.

The UAP’s Victorian Senate candidate Catriona Thoolen said the Liberals were helping the UAP man polling booths.

dv said:

A Facebook account linked to Clive Palmer’s United Australia party paid to disseminate an ad for the Queensland LNP.

On Sunday, a UAP-linked Facebook account named Australia Watch Nowspread an ad championing rival candidate, Brad Carswell, who is standing for the LNP in the Brisbane seat of Lilley.

UAP candidates scramble for volunteers as Clive Palmer campaigns from Fiji

 

Read more

The slickly produced video is a 35-second profile on Carswell, detailing his work in abattoirs, pubs, trucking and trimming trees, all with the LNP logo visible in the top right corner.

The Australia Watch Now page appears to be run by the UAP. It uses the party’s distinctive yellow branding, shares UAP campaign material, and is authorised to an “S Sokolova, United Australia Party” in Brisbane.

The ad for Carswell has since been removed.

The UAP and Liberal parties struck a preference deal in the early stages of the campaign, and Palmer’s party has seen its primary vote hit about 5% in recent Newspolls, thanks largely to a massive ad spend. The deal could prove crucial in key marginal seats and gives Palmer a greater chance of taking back a Senate spot.

Paid Facebook ads are effective because they can be targeted at a particular audience, but remain largely hidden from the broader public, unless users know where to look.

Questions have been raised about the overlap of the Liberals’ campaign with the UAP, with images emerging of Liberals handing out UAP campaign material, including in the marginal seat of Dunkley.

The UAP’s Victorian Senate candidate Catriona Thoolen said the Liberals were helping the UAP man polling booths.

I sincerely hope that the self-serving, lying thief – Palmer – does not get a senate seat.

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/state/nsw/2019/05/14/nsw-coalition-civil-war-molan/

How come we only hear about the right wing minor parties?

It seems we have a Socialist Alliance Party in Australia. I haven’t heard them mentioned once.

The Rev Dodgson said:

How come we only hear about the right wing minor parties?

It seems we have a Socialist Alliance Party in Australia. I haven’t heard them mentioned once.

You never heard of the Greens?

The Rev Dodgson said:

How come we only hear about the right wing minor parties?

It seems we have a Socialist Alliance Party in Australia. I haven’t heard them mentioned once.

The left is dead these days, well except for Jeremy Corbyn.

furious said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

How come we only hear about the right wing minor parties?

It seems we have a Socialist Alliance Party in Australia. I haven’t heard them mentioned once.

You never heard of the Greens?

The Soc Alls see the Greens as just another middle of the road party under the thumb of big business.

https://amp.afr.com/news/politics/national/abbott-camp-issues-sos-as-coalition-civil-war-erupts-in-nsw-20190514-p51nfu

ChrispenEvan said:

https://amp.afr.com/news/politics/national/abbott-camp-issues-sos-as-coalition-civil-war-erupts-in-nsw-20190514-p51nfu

I hope Tony Abbott loses on election day.

Undermining destructive bastard.

ChrispenEvan said:

https://amp.afr.com/news/politics/national/abbott-camp-issues-sos-as-coalition-civil-war-erupts-in-nsw-20190514-p51nfu

Hahaha good.

Bubblecar said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://amp.afr.com/news/politics/national/abbott-camp-issues-sos-as-coalition-civil-war-erupts-in-nsw-20190514-p51nfu

Hahaha good.

I think we’ll all be glad to see the back of him.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/may/15/clive-palmer-gag-clause-qn-workers-told-to-make-no-disparaging-comments-if-they-want-entitlements?CMP=soc_567

Clive Palmer gag clause: QN workers told to make no ‘disparaging comments’ if they want entitlements

____

dv said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/may/15/clive-palmer-gag-clause-qn-workers-told-to-make-no-disparaging-comments-if-they-want-entitlements?CMP=soc_567

Clive Palmer gag clause: QN workers told to make no ‘disparaging comments’ if they want entitlements

____

gag,

Divine Angel said:

It gave me a chuckle anyway.. which is more than Clive has done for me.

The overnight temperatures are approaching frost levels.
Tue, May 14 3.4°C 18°C 0.2mm

Current outside temp according to BOMstats.

Current temp on thermometer in my wall clock facing me behind the computer.

I pay Australia Post for a business-related PO Box.

Estimate the number of ways I was displeased at receiving a “you’ve got mail” notification from them to find the PO box contained three identical election fliers from The Filth.

dv said:

I pay Australia Post for a business-related PO Box.

Estimate the number of ways I was displeased at receiving a “you’ve got mail” notification from them to find the PO box contained three identical election fliers from The Filth.

4

party_pants said:

dv said:

I pay Australia Post for a business-related PO Box.

Estimate the number of ways I was displeased at receiving a “you’ve got mail” notification from them to find the PO box contained three identical election fliers from The Filth.

4

8 ^O

Exactly so.

dv said:

I pay Australia Post for a business-related PO Box.

Estimate the number of ways I was displeased at receiving a “you’ve got mail” notification from them to find the PO box contained three identical election fliers from The Filth.

42?

It’s only Thursday, but I’ll have a stab at a prediction:

ALP to win 6-8 seats, half of them in Victoria with one or two in QLD, WA and SA. Coalition to hold firm in NSW.

Emergence of a political divide between NSW and VIC with the other states falling somewhere in between.

Coalition to lose 10 seats, but not all to Labor. Expect at least 2 to go to moderate conservative independents.

I’m hearing Antony Green’s election night voice:

“…and on those figures, there’s now no way back for Peter Dutton.”

“Well it was touch and go for much of the evening, but now I’m prepared to say that Tony Abbott has definitely lost his seat.”

Some moron was just on the radio saying they voted for Clive Palmer, their sole reasoning for this was they have the same initials at the fat man.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-15/few-details-in-united-australia-party-platform/11114346

poikilotherm said:

Some moron was just on the radio saying they voted for Clive Palmer, their sole reasoning for this was they have the same initials at the fat man.

And they wanted the world to know?

gobsmacked

poikilotherm said:

Some moron was just on the radio saying they voted for Clive Palmer, their sole reasoning for this was they have the same initials at the fat man.

Lord spare us.

poikilotherm said:

Some moron was just on the radio saying they voted for Clive Palmer, their sole reasoning for this was they have the same initials at the fat man.

FC ?

ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-15/few-details-in-united-australia-party-platform/11114346

Look, matey, they’ll unite Australia and that’s all you need to know!

poikilotherm said:

Some moron was just on the radio saying they voted for Clive Palmer, their sole reasoning for this was they have the same initials at the fat man.

I share the same initials as Bill Shorten, but initials are a bullshit reason.

Cymek said:

poikilotherm said:

Some moron was just on the radio saying they voted for Clive Palmer, their sole reasoning for this was they have the same initials at the fat man.

FC ?

LOL

Cymek said:

poikilotherm said:

Some moron was just on the radio saying they voted for Clive Palmer, their sole reasoning for this was they have the same initials at the fat man.

FC ?

I’ll have to sit down and work that one out with a pencil….

poikilotherm said:

Some moron was just on the radio saying they voted for Clive Palmer, their sole reasoning for this was they have the same initials at the fat man.

Wonder how many morons in Australia. I’m thinking it must be a lot because we seem to have elected a lot of them.

Bubblecar said:

I’m hearing Antony Green’s election night voice:

“…and on those figures, there’s now no way back for Peter Dutton.”

“Well it was touch and go for much of the evening, but now I’m prepared to say that Tony Abbott has definitely lost his seat.”

But preferably:

“Well all the polls were indicating a Labor victory, but no-one expected the complete wipe-out of the Coalition that we’re now witnessing. It’s quite astounding.”

“…and Prime Minister Scott Morrison now joins the other senior Liberal Party figures who have lost their seats.”

party_pants said:

poikilotherm said:

Some moron was just on the radio saying they voted for Clive Palmer, their sole reasoning for this was they have the same initials at the fat man.

I share the same initials as Bill Shorten, but initials are a bullshit reason.

I’ve got the same initials as the prime minister, so I’ll always win.

https://amp.smh.com.au/federal-election-2019/tax-revenue-reaches-howard-era-levels-and-it-s-workers-and-super-funds-paying-20190429-p51i80.html

Hang on I’m just tuning my crystal balls.
I’ve got something coming through……………yes there’s a lot of static………..some pictures coming through now….they are grainy…black and white………..sound of cheering………looks like Scomo and he’s saying………………something…..something…….you stayed the course……you kept the faith……………it’s fading……..lost it………..

Don’t know, don’t know who won…………..

• …and Prime Minister Scott Morrison now joins the other senior Liberal Party figures who have lost their seats.

Unfortunately, that is the most fanciful of your musings…

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

I’m hearing Antony Green’s election night voice:

“…and on those figures, there’s now no way back for Peter Dutton.”

“Well it was touch and go for much of the evening, but now I’m prepared to say that Tony Abbott has definitely lost his seat.”

But preferably:

“Well all the polls were indicating a Labor victory, but no-one expected the complete wipe-out of the Coalition that we’re now witnessing. It’s quite astounding.”

“…and Prime Minister Scott Morrison now joins the other senior Liberal Party figures who have lost their seats.”

“Can I just interrupt you there to report that Donald Trump and Theresa May are also about to concede defeat. Switching to the Republican tally room now…”

furious said:

• …and Prime Minister Scott Morrison now joins the other senior Liberal Party figures who have lost their seats.

Unfortunately, that is the most fanciful of your musings…

And the Liberals lose every single seat and as they made a bet they now all get deported

Bonus prediction:

If the ALP win the election and Bill Shorten becomes the next PM, expect Donal Trump to tweet something that sounds like sour grapes about it.

party_pants said:

Bonus prediction:

If the ALP win the election and Bill Shorten becomes the next PM, expect Donal Trump to tweet something that sounds like sour grapes about it.

Will he even notice?

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Bonus prediction:

If the ALP win the election and Bill Shorten becomes the next PM, expect Donal Trump to tweet something that sounds like sour grapes about it.

Will he even notice?

Yes.

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Bonus prediction:

If the ALP win the election and Bill Shorten becomes the next PM, expect Donal Trump to tweet something that sounds like sour grapes about it.

Will he even notice?

Probably not.

Bubblecar said:

I’m hearing Antony Green’s election night voice:

“…and on those figures, there’s now no way back for Peter Dutton.”

“Well it was touch and go for much of the evening, but now I’m prepared to say that Tony Abbott has definitely lost his seat.”

To whom?

Bubblecar said:

I’m hearing Antony Green’s election night voice:

“…and on those figures, there’s now no way back for Peter Dutton.”

“Well it was touch and go for much of the evening, but now I’m prepared to say that Tony Abbott has definitely lost his seat.”

I reckon Abbott will go before Dutton.

roughbarked said:

poikilotherm said:

Some moron was just on the radio saying they voted for Clive Palmer, their sole reasoning for this was they have the same initials at the fat man.

Wonder how many morons in Australia. I’m thinking it must be a lot because we seem to have elected a lot of them.

I’d rather vote for Clive Palmer than for Labor or Liberal, or Green.

mollwollfumble said:

Bubblecar said:

I’m hearing Antony Green’s election night voice:

“…and on those figures, there’s now no way back for Peter Dutton.”

“Well it was touch and go for much of the evening, but now I’m prepared to say that Tony Abbott has definitely lost his seat.”

To whom?

Abbott is in real danger of losing his seat to Zali Whatsername, the Winter Olympics skier. Many of his on-the-ground volunteers have abandoned him and gone to work for other campaigners in other seats. e is struggling a bit.

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

I’m hearing Antony Green’s election night voice:

“…and on those figures, there’s now no way back for Peter Dutton.”

“Well it was touch and go for much of the evening, but now I’m prepared to say that Tony Abbott has definitely lost his seat.”

I reckon Abbott will go before Dutton.

Might not happen, but could just be fanciful polling, who knows.

“Tony Abbott’s prospects of surviving a challenge from independent candidate Zali Steggall appear to have improved, according to internal­ Liberal Party polling that shows him level at 50-50.”

mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

poikilotherm said:

Some moron was just on the radio saying they voted for Clive Palmer, their sole reasoning for this was they have the same initials at the fat man.

Wonder how many morons in Australia. I’m thinking it must be a lot because we seem to have elected a lot of them.

I’d rather vote for Clive Palmer than for Labor or Liberal, or Green.

so what of his policies do you agree with?

Bubblecar said:

I’m hearing Antony Green’s election night voice:

“…and on those figures, there’s now no way back for Peter Dutton.”

“Well it was touch and go for much of the evening, but now I’m prepared to say that Tony Abbott has definitely lost his seat.”

You would not believe how fucken thrilled I would be if Julian Burnside took Frydenburg’s seat off him.

Really.

Really really, even.

Liberals of course hope they do away with all the environment nonsense

Rule 303 said:

Bubblecar said:

I’m hearing Antony Green’s election night voice:

“…and on those figures, there’s now no way back for Peter Dutton.”

“Well it was touch and go for much of the evening, but now I’m prepared to say that Tony Abbott has definitely lost his seat.”

You would not believe how fucken thrilled I would be if Julian Burnside took Frydenburg’s seat off him.

Really.

Really really, even.

I would also celebrate this.

sarahs mum said:

Rule 303 said:

Bubblecar said:

I’m hearing Antony Green’s election night voice:

“…and on those figures, there’s now no way back for Peter Dutton.”

“Well it was touch and go for much of the evening, but now I’m prepared to say that Tony Abbott has definitely lost his seat.”

You would not believe how fucken thrilled I would be if Julian Burnside took Frydenburg’s seat off him.

Really.

Really really, even.

I would also celebrate this.

It would be a good and warming thing.

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Rule 303 said:

You would not believe how fucken thrilled I would be if Julian Burnside took Frydenburg’s seat off him.

Really.

Really really, even.

I would also celebrate this.

It would be a good and warming thing.

…hmm, although looking him up on Wikipedia, maybe not.

ChrispenEvan said:

mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

Wonder how many morons in Australia. I’m thinking it must be a lot because we seem to have elected a lot of them.

I’d rather vote for Clive Palmer than for Labor or Liberal, or Green.

so what of his policies do you agree with?

It’s hard to be against motherhood.

party_pants said:

ChrispenEvan said:

mollwollfumble said:

I’d rather vote for Clive Palmer than for Labor or Liberal, or Green.

so what of his policies do you agree with?

It’s hard to be against motherhood.

read his policy statement page, all 177 words.

:-)

party_pants said:

ChrispenEvan said:

mollwollfumble said:

I’d rather vote for Clive Palmer than for Labor or Liberal, or Green.

so what of his policies do you agree with?

It’s hard to be against motherhood.

Our mollwolfumble is an incurable contrarian.

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

ChrispenEvan said:

so what of his policies do you agree with?

It’s hard to be against motherhood.

Our mollwolfumble is an incurable contrarian.

Not even an incurable contrarian could be against motherhood. I tried it and didn’t last very long.

It would actually be amusing to see Clive become PM and then have to give all the pensioners an extra $150 a week while slashing taxes.

mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

poikilotherm said:

Some moron was just on the radio saying they voted for Clive Palmer, their sole reasoning for this was they have the same initials at the fat man.

Wonder how many morons in Australia. I’m thinking it must be a lot because we seem to have elected a lot of them.

I’d rather vote for Clive Palmer than for Labor or Liberal, or Green.

I don’t want to ask you why.

Bubblecar said:

It would actually be amusing to see Clive become PM and then have to give all the pensioners an extra $150 a week while slashing taxes.

We could be Venezuela too.

poikilotherm said:

Bubblecar said:

It would actually be amusing to see Clive become PM and then have to give all the pensioners an extra $150 a week while slashing taxes.

We could be Venezuela too.

Nah. we’d all have to learn Spanish first.

The-Spectator said:

Liberals of course hope they do away with all the environment nonsense

They’ve already tried that and failed miserably.

We need a nice church going god fearing Christian conservative who will put all these minorities back in their place

Anyway, I voted today despite friends telling me I should wait until the last day to find out which party shows up as best.
From the long queues, I’d be surprised if anyone bothers to wait until Saturday.

The-Spectator said:

We need a nice church going god fearing Christian conservative who will put all these minorities back in their place

We’ve had three of those in the past five years and what good came of it?

roughbarked said:

Anyway, I voted today despite friends telling me I should wait until the last day to find out which party shows up as best.
From the long queues, I’d be surprised if anyone bothers to wait until Saturday.

You postal voted ?

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

Anyway, I voted today despite friends telling me I should wait until the last day to find out which party shows up as best.
From the long queues, I’d be surprised if anyone bothers to wait until Saturday.

You postal voted ?

No. Pre poll. I was driving past and thought well, I know who I’m voting for and I don’t do sausage sizzles so I dropped in an voted.

The-Spectator said:

We need a nice church going god fearing Christian conservative who will put all these minorities back in their place

I’m thinking The-Spectator is another Cymek attempt at comedy sock puppetry.

Bubblecar said:

The-Spectator said:

We need a nice church going god fearing Christian conservative who will put all these minorities back in their place

I’m thinking The-Spectator is another Cymek attempt at comedy sock puppetry.

Not me

Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

The-Spectator said:

We need a nice church going god fearing Christian conservative who will put all these minorities back in their place

I’m thinking The-Spectator is another Cymek attempt at comedy sock puppetry.

Not me

Fair enough.

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

I’m thinking The-Spectator is another Cymek attempt at comedy sock puppetry.

Not me

Fair enough.

I’d say that the spectator is simply The_Observer under a new pseudonym.

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

Not me

Fair enough.

I’d say that the spectator is simply The_Observer under a new pseudonym.

Aye.

Witty Rejoinder said:

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Fair enough.

I’d say that the spectator is simply The_Observer under a new pseudonym.

Aye.

He’s clearly not too bright.

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

Not me

Fair enough.

I’d say that the spectator is simply The_Observer under a new pseudonym.

really???? Lab notified!!!

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

Not me

Fair enough.

I’d say that the spectator is simply The_Observer under a new pseudonym.

+1

Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Fair enough.

I’d say that the spectator is simply The_Observer under a new pseudonym.

+1

Didn’t need Sherlock Holmes to work that one out.

captain_spalding said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

I’d say that the spectator is simply The_Observer under a new pseudonym.

+1

Didn’t need Sherlock Holmes to work that one out.

I pointed that out after his very first post.

But he hasn’t been fucking the place up much so I then suspected it was just Cymek (who was puppeting BC & Zarkov) being the Spectator.

Bubblecar said:

captain_spalding said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

+1

Didn’t need Sherlock Holmes to work that one out.

I pointed that out after his very first post.

But he hasn’t been fucking the place up much so I then suspected it was just Cymek (who was puppeting BC & Zarkov) being the Spectator.

Even GW deniers get lonely. I suspect he is tempering himself so as to not force people to email CB88 about him when he’s trolling.

party_pants said:

mollwollfumble said:

Bubblecar said:

I’m hearing Antony Green’s election night voice:

“…and on those figures, there’s now no way back for Peter Dutton.”

“Well it was touch and go for much of the evening, but now I’m prepared to say that Tony Abbott has definitely lost his seat.”

To whom?

Abbott is in real danger of losing his seat to Zali Whatsername, the Winter Olympics skier. Many of his on-the-ground volunteers have abandoned him and gone to work for other campaigners in other seats. e is struggling a bit.

I think we should also recognize Zali Stegall’s barrister qualifications.

roughbarked said:

Anyway, I voted today despite friends telling me I should wait until the last day to find out which party shows up as best.
From the long queues, I’d be surprised if anyone bothers to wait until Saturday.

I’m going on Saturday. Apparently the queues for early voting in Hamilton are out the door and around the corner. I bet I can just wander in to our local hall and not have to wait on Saturday.

buffy said:

party_pants said:

mollwollfumble said:

To whom?

Abbott is in real danger of losing his seat to Zali Whatsername, the Winter Olympics skier. Many of his on-the-ground volunteers have abandoned him and gone to work for other campaigners in other seats. e is struggling a bit.

I think we should also recognize Zali Stegall’s barrister qualifications.

Oh, all right… do I really have to?

I don’t even live on that side of the country

Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Fair enough.

I’d say that the spectator is simply The_Observer under a new pseudonym.

+1

I have a different theory. I think it is someone much more clever. But I’ll bide my time.

buffy said:

party_pants said:

mollwollfumble said:

To whom?

Abbott is in real danger of losing his seat to Zali Whatsername, the Winter Olympics skier. Many of his on-the-ground volunteers have abandoned him and gone to work for other campaigners in other seats. e is struggling a bit.

I think we should also recognize Zali Stegall’s barrister qualifications.

Great News.

I’ve never heard of her but I wish her good luck and I hope she beats Toney Abbott.

buffy said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

I’d say that the spectator is simply The_Observer under a new pseudonym.

+1

I have a different theory. I think it is someone much more clever. But I’ll bide my time.

it isn’t me.

ChrispenEvan said:

buffy said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

+1

I have a different theory. I think it is someone much more clever. But I’ll bide my time.

it isn’t me.

No, I wasn’t thinking that, bright and intelligent as I think you are…

buffy said:

ChrispenEvan said:

buffy said:

I have a different theory. I think it is someone much more clever. But I’ll bide my time.

it isn’t me.

No, I wasn’t thinking that, bright and intelligent as I think you are…

i know. it was of my self depreciating humour.

ChrispenEvan said:

buffy said:

ChrispenEvan said:

it isn’t me.

No, I wasn’t thinking that, bright and intelligent as I think you are…

i know. it was (some) of my self depreciating humour.

fixed

Today’s seat by seat polls are pretty much as expected except for Flynn in Qld which shows a 2% swing TO the Coalition. It’s a small poll, and hence high margin of error, but still.

dv said:

Today’s seat by seat polls are pretty much as expected except for Flynn in Qld which shows a 2% swing TO the Coalition. It’s a small poll, and hence high margin of error, but still.

Who’s conducting seat by seat polls?

Witty Rejoinder said:

dv said:

Today’s seat by seat polls are pretty much as expected except for Flynn in Qld which shows a 2% swing TO the Coalition. It’s a small poll, and hence high margin of error, but still.

Who’s conducting seat by seat polls?

YouGov

So dv, what sort of result are you anticipating?

Comfortable ALP victory?

Will Abbott and Dutton lose their seats?

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

Anyway, I voted today despite friends telling me I should wait until the last day to find out which party shows up as best.
From the long queues, I’d be surprised if anyone bothers to wait until Saturday.

I’m going on Saturday. Apparently the queues for early voting in Hamilton are out the door and around the corner. I bet I can just wander in to our local hall and not have to wait on Saturday.

SWMBO was telling me that there’s a booth set up opposite Parliament Station in central Melbourne. Tells me the queue is about 50 metres long. Stuff that, I’ll wander up the street late Saturday and walk straight in. I’ll then put one R.Muir as #1 on the senate ticket. I’m yet to decide who gets the golden razzie.

dv said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

dv said:

Today’s seat by seat polls are pretty much as expected except for Flynn in Qld which shows a 2% swing TO the Coalition. It’s a small poll, and hence high margin of error, but still.

Who’s conducting seat by seat polls?

YouGov

Can you provide a link? I can’t seem to find it amongst the fluff on their website.

Yeah, surely if everyone else is voting early then Democracy sausage day will be much quieter.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/federal-election-2019-seat-by-seat-poll-results-show-latest-trends/news-story/a696eeb55dc8a4d479e77ad8e6016f8d

sibeen said:

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

Anyway, I voted today despite friends telling me I should wait until the last day to find out which party shows up as best.
From the long queues, I’d be surprised if anyone bothers to wait until Saturday.

I’m going on Saturday. Apparently the queues for early voting in Hamilton are out the door and around the corner. I bet I can just wander in to our local hall and not have to wait on Saturday.

SWMBO was telling me that there’s a booth set up opposite Parliament Station in central Melbourne. Tells me the queue is about 50 metres long. Stuff that, I’ll wander up the street late Saturday and walk straight in. I’ll then put one R.Muir as #1 on the senate ticket. I’m yet to decide who gets the golden razzie.

You’re really comfortable supporting the Shooters etc party?

I plan to go at about 9-9.30 am ish, just after breakfast and a second cuppa.

sibeen said:

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/federal-election-2019-seat-by-seat-poll-results-show-latest-trends/news-story/a696eeb55dc8a4d479e77ad8e6016f8d

Subscriber only for me.

Witty Rejoinder said:

sibeen said:

buffy said:

I’m going on Saturday. Apparently the queues for early voting in Hamilton are out the door and around the corner. I bet I can just wander in to our local hall and not have to wait on Saturday.

SWMBO was telling me that there’s a booth set up opposite Parliament Station in central Melbourne. Tells me the queue is about 50 metres long. Stuff that, I’ll wander up the street late Saturday and walk straight in. I’ll then put one R.Muir as #1 on the senate ticket. I’m yet to decide who gets the golden razzie.

You’re really comfortable supporting the Shooters etc party?

I’m not. The other candidate they have will be mid pack at best. I’m voting for the man in this case.

Witty Rejoinder said:

sibeen said:

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/federal-election-2019-seat-by-seat-poll-results-show-latest-trends/news-story/a696eeb55dc8a4d479e77ad8e6016f8d

Subscriber only for me.

I just clicked the x in the top corner and it opened up for me. I’m certainly not a subscriber.

Bubblecar said:

So dv, what sort of result are you anticipating?

Comfortable ALP victory?

Will Abbott and Dutton lose their seats?

I’m hearing conflicting reports. Everything from Bookies are paying out early (seems unlikely) to we’re unlikely to have a result on Saturday night because it’s too close to call.

Divine Angel said:

Bubblecar said:

So dv, what sort of result are you anticipating?

Comfortable ALP victory?

Will Abbott and Dutton lose their seats?

I’m hearing conflicting reports. Everything from Bookies are paying out early (seems unlikely) to we’re unlikely to have a result on Saturday night because it’s too close to call.

Bookies are cynically paying out early so people have money in the betting accounts for the weekend to bet more on sports.

Divine Angel said:

Bubblecar said:

So dv, what sort of result are you anticipating?

Comfortable ALP victory?

Will Abbott and Dutton lose their seats?

I’m hearing conflicting reports. Everything from Bookies are paying out early (seems unlikely) to we’re unlikely to have a result on Saturday night because it’s too close to call.

I don’t want that degree of suspense.

It will be nice if Labor gets enough of its own to not court Greens or independents. I can’t see LNP getting up at all, though I think Abbott might surprise, he is popular in his electorate and in real life apparently very nice.

When it was Rudd some talking head said if you like Rudd and dislike Abbott don’t meet either.

Divine Angel said:

Bubblecar said:

So dv, what sort of result are you anticipating?

Comfortable ALP victory?

Will Abbott and Dutton lose their seats?

I’m hearing conflicting reports. Everything from Bookies are paying out early (seems unlikely) to we’re unlikely to have a result on Saturday night because it’s too close to call.

Who cares, so long as they do. Even they don’t care, because they have both been around long enough to collect big fat pensions. Politicians new since 1994 get nothing.

AwesomeO said:

It will be nice if Labor gets enough of its own to not court Greens or independents. I can’t see LNP getting up at all, though I think Abbott might surprise, he is popular in his electorate and in real life apparently very nice.

When it was Rudd some talking head said if you like Rudd and dislike Abbott don’t meet either.

Met Rudd very impressed.

AwesomeO said:

It will be nice if Labor gets enough of its own to not court Greens or independents. I can’t see LNP getting up at all, though I think Abbott might surprise, he is popular in his electorate and in real life apparently very nice.

When it was Rudd some talking head said if you like Rudd and dislike Abbott don’t meet either.

Is it still likely that we will have a hung by the liberals upper house?

>and in real life apparently very nice.

Very nice in the eyes of similar intellectually and emotionally challenged individuals, I’d imagine.

sarahs mum said:

AwesomeO said:

It will be nice if Labor gets enough of its own to not court Greens or independents. I can’t see LNP getting up at all, though I think Abbott might surprise, he is popular in his electorate and in real life apparently very nice.

When it was Rudd some talking head said if you like Rudd and dislike Abbott don’t meet either.

Is it still likely that we will have a hung by the liberals upper house?

Let’s hope they’re not bolstered by too many out-&-out Nazis.

Bubblecar said:

>and in real life apparently very nice.

Very nice in the eyes of similar intellectually and emotionally challenged individuals, I’d imagine.

The bloke was a Rhodes scholar, I very much doubt he’s of low intellect.

AwesomeO said:

It will be nice if Labor gets enough of its own to not court Greens or independents. I can’t see LNP getting up at all, though I think Abbott might surprise, he is popular in his electorate and in real life apparently very nice.

When it was Rudd some talking head said if you like Rudd and dislike Abbott don’t meet either.

Between them they got a cock and balls on my ballot paper that time. Not a question of either of them being a nice bloke. We’ve managed to rid ourselves of one, be great if the other could follow him into obscurity.

well ck some computer just called my ‘phone and claimed to be “Scott Morrison”

don’t remember giving any of these parties my number

dirty

sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

>and in real life apparently very nice.

Very nice in the eyes of similar intellectually and emotionally challenged individuals, I’d imagine.

The bloke was a Rhodes scholar, I very much doubt he’s of low intellect.

Then how do you account for his worldview?

There are plenty of academic achievers who are nonetheless devoid of basic reasoning skills.

sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

>and in real life apparently very nice.

Very nice in the eyes of similar intellectually and emotionally challenged individuals, I’d imagine.

The bloke was a Rhodes scholar, I very much doubt he’s of low intellect.

then the Rhodes scholars i’ve met must overrepresent the low intellect ones

SCIENCE said:

sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

>and in real life apparently very nice.

Very nice in the eyes of similar intellectually and emotionally challenged individuals, I’d imagine.

The bloke was a Rhodes scholar, I very much doubt he’s of low intellect.

then the Rhodes scholars i’ve met must overrepresent the low intellect ones

bob, a rhodes scholar, is dead.

Bubblecar said:

>and in real life apparently very nice.

Very nice in the eyes of similar intellectually and emotionally challenged individuals, I’d imagine.

Meh, it would be smart not to assume that everyone you disagree with must be stupid.

SCIENCE said:

sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

>and in real life apparently very nice.

Very nice in the eyes of similar intellectually and emotionally challenged individuals, I’d imagine.

The bloke was a Rhodes scholar, I very much doubt he’s of low intellect.

then the Rhodes scholars i’ve met must overrepresent the low intellect ones

He’s not dumb, he’s just not a lively conversationalist or public speaker. His academic results must have been very good.

Bubblecar said:

So dv, what sort of result are you anticipating?

Comfortable ALP victory?

Will Abbott and Dutton lose their seats?

I’m a little chastened by some of the seat polls. Abbott in Warringah and Dutton in Dickson will be close as heck, and it’s hard to predict because it’s unclear how the UAP prefs will go.

Overall I don’t think it will be a huge win but I do think ALP will win, ending up with 77 to 80 seats. The polling tightened but it stopped tightening three weeks ago in the fair dinkum department.

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

So dv, what sort of result are you anticipating?

Comfortable ALP victory?

Will Abbott and Dutton lose their seats?

I’m a little chastened by some of the seat polls. Abbott in Warringah and Dutton in Dickson will be close as heck, and it’s hard to predict because it’s unclear how the UAP prefs will go.

Overall I don’t think it will be a huge win but I do think ALP will win, ending up with 77 to 80 seats. The polling tightened but it stopped tightening three weeks ago in the fair dinkum department.

So we’re in for a tense night.

I’d better invest in some whisky.

Bob as an RAF reserve pilot at Oxford.

Witty Rejoinder said:

dv said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Who’s conducting seat by seat polls?

YouGov

Can you provide a link? I can’t seem to find it amongst the fluff on their website.

Here are some articles on it

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/federal-election-2019-seat-by-seat-poll-results-show-latest-trends/news-story/a696eeb55dc8a4d479e77ad8e6016f8d

https://www.pollbludger.net/2019/05/16/ipsos-51-49-labor-4/

YouGov’s Dickson poll has Dutton ahead 51-49. Combined with the Flynn poll this dampens my optimism for Qld.

dv said:

YouGov’s Dickson poll has Dutton ahead 51-49. Combined with the Flynn poll this dampens my optimism for Qld.

I’m never optimistic about Qld.

sibeen said:

dv said:

YouGov’s Dickson poll has Dutton ahead 51-49. Combined with the Flynn poll this dampens my optimism for Qld.

I’m never optimistic about Qld.

Me neither.

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

dv said:

YouGov’s Dickson poll has Dutton ahead 51-49. Combined with the Flynn poll this dampens my optimism for Qld.

I’m never optimistic about Qld.

Me neither.

I am.

Peak Warming Man said:

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

I’m never optimistic about Qld.

Me neither.

I am.

Sunlit uplands

However Bob’s passing has put the election result beyond doubt.
Perfect timing Bob, a true party man right to the end.

Peak Warming Man said:

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

I’m never optimistic about Qld.

Me neither.

I am.

Yet I note that your bolt hole is located in NSW.

sibeen said:

Peak Warming Man said:

party_pants said:

Me neither.

I am.

Yet I note that your bolt hole is located in NSW.

I’ve annexed it in the Name of Queensland, it’s hares as well.

The Andrew Bolt hole

Peak Warming Man said:

However Bob’s passing has put the election result beyond doubt.
Perfect timing Bob, a true party man right to the end.

I thought the timing was good too. Advertsing blackout in and Bob has all the news.

sarahs mum said:

Peak Warming Man said:

However Bob’s passing has put the election result beyond doubt.
Perfect timing Bob, a true party man right to the end.

I thought the timing was good too. Advertsing blackout in and Bob has all the news.

The media blackout is meaningless these days because I think it doesn’t apply to the phone or the internet and that is where people live these days.

Peak Warming Man said:

sarahs mum said:

Peak Warming Man said:

However Bob’s passing has put the election result beyond doubt.
Perfect timing Bob, a true party man right to the end.

I thought the timing was good too. Advertsing blackout in and Bob has all the news.

The media blackout is meaningless these days because I think it doesn’t apply to the phone or the internet and that is where people live these days.

true.

Peak Warming Man said:

sarahs mum said:

Peak Warming Man said:

However Bob’s passing has put the election result beyond doubt.
Perfect timing Bob, a true party man right to the end.

I thought the timing was good too. Advertsing blackout in and Bob has all the news.

The media blackout is meaningless these days because I think it doesn’t apply to the phone or the internet and that is where people live these days.

It’s good to be able to listen to the radio in the car again.

“Melbourne Storm narrowly beat Wests Tigers in Thursday night NRL thriller”

Well bugger me, I listened to that in the car all the way up here, the Tigers were home for all money when I lost the station.

Peak Warming Man said:

“Melbourne Storm narrowly beat Wests Tigers in Thursday night NRL thriller”

Well bugger me, I listened to that in the car all the way up here, the Tigers were home for all money when I lost the station.

Pardon me.

sarahs mum said:

Peak Warming Man said:

However Bob’s passing has put the election result beyond doubt.
Perfect timing Bob, a true party man right to the end.

I thought the timing was good too. Advertsing blackout in and Bob has all the news.

Trouble is, he picked my birthday.

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

Peak Warming Man said:

However Bob’s passing has put the election result beyond doubt.
Perfect timing Bob, a true party man right to the end.

I thought the timing was good too. Advertsing blackout in and Bob has all the news.

Trouble is, he picked my birthday.

Well, a belated happy birthday to you.

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

Peak Warming Man said:

However Bob’s passing has put the election result beyond doubt.
Perfect timing Bob, a true party man right to the end.

I thought the timing was good too. Advertsing blackout in and Bob has all the news.

Trouble is, he picked my birthday.

You’re as bad as Boris.

party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

I thought the timing was good too. Advertsing blackout in and Bob has all the news.

Trouble is, he picked my birthday.

Well, a belated happy birthday to you.

x2

party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

I thought the timing was good too. Advertsing blackout in and Bob has all the news.

Trouble is, he picked my birthday.

Well, a belated happy birthday to you.

Thanks. I was out having a lovely dinner with Mrs rb. Got home to get the news about Bob from a neighbour who had come to say HB. :( I really liked Bob as a bloke as well as PM.
Met him once in a local bar.

Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

I thought the timing was good too. Advertsing blackout in and Bob has all the news.

Trouble is, he picked my birthday.

You’re as bad as Boris.

Let’s not go overboard.

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

Peak Warming Man said:

However Bob’s passing has put the election result beyond doubt.
Perfect timing Bob, a true party man right to the end.

I thought the timing was good too. Advertsing blackout in and Bob has all the news.

Trouble is, he picked my birthday.

Many happy returns roughie :)

How old are you these days?

Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

I thought the timing was good too. Advertsing blackout in and Bob has all the news.

Trouble is, he picked my birthday.

You’re as bad as Boris.

No. I only have the one each year.

sibeen said:

Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

Trouble is, he picked my birthday.

You’re as bad as Boris.

Let’s not go overboard.

;)

Bubblecar said:

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

I thought the timing was good too. Advertsing blackout in and Bob has all the news.

Trouble is, he picked my birthday.

Many happy returns roughie :)

How old are you these days?

hit route 66.

roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

Trouble is, he picked my birthday.

Well, a belated happy birthday to you.

Thanks. I was out having a lovely dinner with Mrs rb. Got home to get the news about Bob from a neighbour who had come to say HB. :( I really liked Bob as a bloke as well as PM.
Met him once in a local bar.

There was a rumour for a while in Mole Creek that I was Bob Hawke’s son. His son was living somewhere in the area at the time.

“That’s Hawke’s son”, I would hear strangers say. But they were wrong.

Bubblecar said:

roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

Well, a belated happy birthday to you.

Thanks. I was out having a lovely dinner with Mrs rb. Got home to get the news about Bob from a neighbour who had come to say HB. :( I really liked Bob as a bloke as well as PM.
Met him once in a local bar.

There was a rumour for a while in Mole Creek that I was Bob Hawke’s son. His son was living somewhere in the area at the time.

“That’s Hawke’s son”, I would hear strangers say. But they were wrong.

Nice to have a bit of notoriety. :)

Anyway, going on what I’ve seen of the people talking about the election, Victoria might well be voting strongly against the coalition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH_MBwQhGgA

That’s why I’m voting Green.

sibeen said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH_MBwQhGgA

That’s why I’m voting Green.

That’s a relief.

I thought you were serious there for a minute.

The Rev Dodgson said:

sibeen said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH_MBwQhGgA

That’s why I’m voting Green.

That’s a relief.

I thought you were serious there for a minute.

nah, he’s just being a wanker.

:-)

morning sibeen.

Well the lady who reads fortunes by throwing asparagus on the floor has predicted that the coalition will win the election, but it will be very close.

Divine Angel said:

Well the lady who reads fortunes by throwing asparagus on the floor has predicted that the coalition will win the election, but it will be very close.

Tinned or fresh? Can open or not?

kii said:

Divine Angel said:

Well the lady who reads fortunes by throwing asparagus on the floor has predicted that the coalition will win the election, but it will be very close.

Tinned or fresh? Can open or not?

She uses fresh. I’m trying to find a clip but there’s nothing uploaded yet.

The Rev Dodgson said:

sibeen said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH_MBwQhGgA

That’s why I’m voting Green.

That’s a relief.

I thought you were serious there for a minute.

I’m actually voting green. I’m happy for Nick McKim to go back to Canberra. Nick is okay.

sarahs mum said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

sibeen said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH_MBwQhGgA

That’s why I’m voting Green.

That’s a relief.

I thought you were serious there for a minute.

I’m actually voting green. I’m happy for Nick McKim to go back to Canberra. Nick is okay.

Me too.

I just didn’t want to have to review that position in the knowledge that I’d be voting in the same way as sibeen :)

The Rev Dodgson said:

sarahs mum said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

That’s a relief.

I thought you were serious there for a minute.

I’m actually voting green. I’m happy for Nick McKim to go back to Canberra. Nick is okay.

Me too.

I just didn’t want to have to review that position in the knowledge that I’d be voting in the same way as sibeen :)

Inheritance tax. No way. Ever!

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

sarahs mum said:

I’m actually voting green. I’m happy for Nick McKim to go back to Canberra. Nick is okay.

Me too.

I just didn’t want to have to review that position in the knowledge that I’d be voting in the same way as sibeen :)

Inheritance tax. No way. Ever!

1) Lots of places have inheritance taxes, without the sky falling in.

2) Even if you think such a tax would be the work of the devil, there is zero chance of it being implemented without the support of one of the major parties, even if they did have the balance of power.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Me too.

I just didn’t want to have to review that position in the knowledge that I’d be voting in the same way as sibeen :)

Inheritance tax. No way. Ever!

1) Lots of places have inheritance taxes, without the sky falling in.

2) Even if you think such a tax would be the work of the devil, there is zero chance of it being implemented without the support of one of the major parties, even if they did have the balance of power.

I’m not concerned about other places. My concern is purely local.

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Tamb said:

Inheritance tax. No way. Ever!

1) Lots of places have inheritance taxes, without the sky falling in.

2) Even if you think such a tax would be the work of the devil, there is zero chance of it being implemented without the support of one of the major parties, even if they did have the balance of power.

I’m not concerned about other places. My concern is purely local.

OK, but I’m just suggesting that experience at other places indicates that it’s no big deal.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

1) Lots of places have inheritance taxes, without the sky falling in.

2) Even if you think such a tax would be the work of the devil, there is zero chance of it being implemented without the support of one of the major parties, even if they did have the balance of power.

I’m not concerned about other places. My concern is purely local.

OK, but I’m just suggesting that experience at other places indicates that it’s no big deal.

In my case it is a big deal. Due to the untimely deaths of some family members my death would cause the forced sale of several family homes with the result that the remaining members would have nowhere practical to live.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

1) Lots of places have inheritance taxes, without the sky falling in.

2) Even if you think such a tax would be the work of the devil, there is zero chance of it being implemented without the support of one of the major parties, even if they did have the balance of power.

I’m not concerned about other places. My concern is purely local.

OK, but I’m just suggesting that experience at other places indicates that it’s no big deal.

230 million Chinese cigarette smokers must be on to something!

poikilotherm said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Tamb said:

I’m not concerned about other places. My concern is purely local.

OK, but I’m just suggesting that experience at other places indicates that it’s no big deal.

230 million Chinese cigarette smokers must be on to something!

Do they have inheritance taxes in China?

Even if they do, I’m not sure what it has to do with cigarette smokers.

#DoItForBob is trending on twitter. (Meaning, vote Labor in memory of Hawke)

The Rev Dodgson said:

poikilotherm said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

OK, but I’m just suggesting that experience at other places indicates that it’s no big deal.

230 million Chinese cigarette smokers must be on to something!

Do they have inheritance taxes in China?

Even if they do, I’m not sure what it has to do with cigarette smokers.

cigarette smokers die!!!

The Rev Dodgson said:

poikilotherm said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

OK, but I’m just suggesting that experience at other places indicates that it’s no big deal.

230 million Chinese cigarette smokers must be on to something!

Do they have inheritance taxes in China?

Even if they do, I’m not sure what it has to do with cigarette smokers.

The Chinese State owns most of everything so taxes are irrelevant.

Divine Angel said:

#DoItForBob is trending on twitter. (Meaning, vote Labor in memory of Hawke)

That’d be up there with stupid reasons to vote; some dude from the 80s died.

Divine Angel said:

#DoItForBob is trending on twitter. (Meaning, vote Labor in memory of Hawke)

I’d vote for Bob but not for Bill.

ChrispenEvan said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

poikilotherm said:

230 million Chinese cigarette smokers must be on to something!

Do they have inheritance taxes in China?

Even if they do, I’m not sure what it has to do with cigarette smokers.

cigarette smokers die!!!

EVerybody dies, but other places love smoking so we should look in to it too.

Stupidity aside, where’d the inheritance tax idea come from? The fake greens and the ALP both state they have no policy or plan for such a thing.

poikilotherm said:

ChrispenEvan said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Do they have inheritance taxes in China?

Even if they do, I’m not sure what it has to do with cigarette smokers.

cigarette smokers die!!!

EVerybody dies, but other places love smoking so we should look in to it too.

logical fallacy, false equivalence.

poikilotherm said:

Stupidity aside, where’d the inheritance tax idea come from? The fake greens and the ALP both state they have no policy or plan for such a thing.

Clive Palmer probably.

Assuming by “fake greens” you mean The Greens, who are the real greens?

The Rev Dodgson said:

poikilotherm said:

Stupidity aside, where’d the inheritance tax idea come from? The fake greens and the ALP both state they have no policy or plan for such a thing.

Clive Palmer probably.

Assuming by “fake greens” you mean The Greens, who are the real greens?

There aren’t any in Aus politics at the moment, just some socialists using the name afaict.

ChrispenEvan said:

poikilotherm said:

ChrispenEvan said:

cigarette smokers die!!!

EVerybody dies, but other places love smoking so we should look in to it too.

logical fallacy, false equivalence.

Exactly.

If we look at countries where more people smoke, we see that there are bad health effects as a result, suggesting that smoking may be a bad thing to do.

If we look at countries where they have inheritance taxes, we see that there is no clear evidence of this having a significant detrimental effect, suggesting that it’s no big deal either way (other than for those of enormous wealth).

poikilotherm said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

poikilotherm said:

Stupidity aside, where’d the inheritance tax idea come from? The fake greens and the ALP both state they have no policy or plan for such a thing.

Clive Palmer probably.

Assuming by “fake greens” you mean The Greens, who are the real greens?

There aren’t any in Aus politics at the moment, just some socialists using the name afaict.

people on the far right think any centralist party is socialist.

;-)

The Rev Dodgson said:

ChrispenEvan said:

poikilotherm said:

EVerybody dies, but other places love smoking so we should look in to it too.

logical fallacy, false equivalence.

Exactly.

If we look at countries where more people smoke, we see that there are bad health effects as a result, suggesting that smoking may be a bad thing to do.

If we look at countries where they have inheritance taxes, we see that there is no clear evidence of this having a significant detrimental effect, suggesting that it’s no big deal either way (other than for those of enormous wealth).

You’re all so serious. I’ll use pink font next time.

poikilotherm said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

poikilotherm said:

Stupidity aside, where’d the inheritance tax idea come from? The fake greens and the ALP both state they have no policy or plan for such a thing.

Clive Palmer probably.

Assuming by “fake greens” you mean The Greens, who are the real greens?

There aren’t any in Aus politics at the moment, just some socialists using the name afaict.

Seems to be the case in NSW. Not sure about the rest.

ChrispenEvan said:

poikilotherm said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Clive Palmer probably.

Assuming by “fake greens” you mean The Greens, who are the real greens?

There aren’t any in Aus politics at the moment, just some socialists using the name afaict.

people on the far right think any centralist party is socialist.

;-)

I guess, but they’re as odd as the far left.

party_pants said:

poikilotherm said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Clive Palmer probably.

Assuming by “fake greens” you mean The Greens, who are the real greens?

There aren’t any in Aus politics at the moment, just some socialists using the name afaict.

Seems to be the case in NSW. Not sure about the rest.

Me either, but that’s my bubble.

poikilotherm said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

poikilotherm said:

Stupidity aside, where’d the inheritance tax idea come from? The fake greens and the ALP both state they have no policy or plan for such a thing.

Clive Palmer probably.

Assuming by “fake greens” you mean The Greens, who are the real greens?

There aren’t any in Aus politics at the moment, just some socialists using the name afaict.

In spite of the popularity of the rightist watermelon meme, as far as I can see, that’s just crap.

The Rev Dodgson said:

poikilotherm said:

Stupidity aside, where’d the inheritance tax idea come from? The fake greens and the ALP both state they have no policy or plan for such a thing.

Clive Palmer probably.

Assuming by “fake greens” you mean The Greens, who are the real greens?

Like the IRA & the Real IRA.

ChrispenEvan said:

poikilotherm said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Clive Palmer probably.

Assuming by “fake greens” you mean The Greens, who are the real greens?

There aren’t any in Aus politics at the moment, just some socialists using the name afaict.

people on the far right think any centralist party is socialist.

;-)

South Africa was so far right the Govt said the Pope was a Communist.

All I know is if the Greens hold the balance of power in the lower house after the election well have paedophiles grooming our kids in schools and handing out free marijuana to the kiddies.

Peak Warming Man said:

All I know is if the Greens hold the balance of power in the lower house after the election well have paedophiles grooming our kids in schools and handing out free marijuana to the kiddies.

Well, marijuana is green & organic.

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

poikilotherm said:

Stupidity aside, where’d the inheritance tax idea come from? The fake greens and the ALP both state they have no policy or plan for such a thing.

Clive Palmer probably.

Assuming by “fake greens” you mean The Greens, who are the real greens?

Like the IRA & the Real IRA.

Not going into that one.

If you Binge on “inheritance tax in Australia” (without quotes), the first page has no mention of party politics.

If you Google you get first hit a link to the Labor Party site, saying that rumours they will introduce an inheritance tax are just Lib Party lies.

The Rev Dodgson said:

poikilotherm said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Clive Palmer probably.

Assuming by “fake greens” you mean The Greens, who are the real greens?

There aren’t any in Aus politics at the moment, just some socialists using the name afaict.

In spite of the popularity of the rightist watermelon meme, as far as I can see, that’s just crap.

You forgot the Tree Tories.

poikilotherm said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

poikilotherm said:

There aren’t any in Aus politics at the moment, just some socialists using the name afaict.

In spite of the popularity of the rightist watermelon meme, as far as I can see, that’s just crap.

You forgot the Tree Tories.

I’ll have to look that one up.

I’m a bit out of touch with this politics stuff.

The Rev Dodgson said:

poikilotherm said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

In spite of the popularity of the rightist watermelon meme, as far as I can see, that’s just crap.

You forgot the Tree Tories.

I’ll have to look that one up.

I’m a bit out of touch with this politics stuff.

Effluent inner city urbanites who vote green because they care about the environment.

The Rev Dodgson said:

poikilotherm said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

In spite of the popularity of the rightist watermelon meme, as far as I can see, that’s just crap.

You forgot the Tree Tories.

I’ll have to look that one up.

I’m a bit out of touch with this politics stuff.

That’s OK I’m here if you need any guidance.

party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

poikilotherm said:

You forgot the Tree Tories.

I’ll have to look that one up.

I’m a bit out of touch with this politics stuff.

Effluent inner city urbanites who vote green because they care about the environment.

Amusingly, Bob Brown was labelled a tree tory.

poikilotherm said:

party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I’ll have to look that one up.

I’m a bit out of touch with this politics stuff.

Effluent inner city urbanites who vote green because they care about the environment.

Amusingly, Bob Brown was labelled a tree tory.

Well, the opposite of the out in the wilderness hippy type.

It is not that hypocritical though, urban centres and dense inner city living is probably more efficient in terms of resources consumed than living out in the urban sprawl and making long commutes in the car to get anywhere.

poikilotherm said:

party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I’ll have to look that one up.

I’m a bit out of touch with this politics stuff.

Effluent inner city urbanites who vote green because they care about the environment.

Amusingly, Bob Brown was labelled a tree tory.

The Tree Tories. They get together & whine about classical themes.

Peak Warming Man said:

All I know is if the Greens hold the balance of power in the lower house after the election well have paedophiles grooming our kids in schools and handing out free marijuana to the kiddies.

You’ve mixed up catholic priests with hippies.

party_pants said:

poikilotherm said:

party_pants said:

Effluent inner city urbanites who vote green because they care about the environment.

Amusingly, Bob Brown was labelled a tree tory.

Well, the opposite of the out in the wilderness hippy type.

It is not that hypocritical though, urban centres and dense inner city living is probably more efficient in terms of resources consumed than living out in the urban sprawl and making long commutes in the car to get anywhere.

No, inner city populations consume more and are less efficient than those in the burbs.

“Yet despite the lower environmental impacts associated with less car use, inner city households outstrip the rest of Australia in every other category of consumption. Even in the area of housing, the opportunities for relatively efficient, compact living appear to be overwhelmed by the energy and water demands of modern urban living, such as air conditioning, spa baths, down lighting and luxury electronics and appliances, as well as by a higher proportion of individuals living alone or in small households.

In each state and territory, the centre of the capital city is the area with the highest environmental impacts, followed by the inner suburban areas. Rural and regional areas tend to have noticeably lower levels of consumption.”

Aus conservation foundation

The thing I’m sure about in the polls is how they adjust for age. Since most of the polling is done via calling landlines it does tend to skew towards people that use one. Which tends to be older people, in general.

party_pants said:

The thing I’m sure about in the polls is how they adjust for age. Since most of the polling is done via calling landlines it does tend to skew towards people that use one. Which tends to be older people, in general.

At current landline prices even older people are switching to mobiles & disconnecting their landlines.

party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

poikilotherm said:

You forgot the Tree Tories.

I’ll have to look that one up.

I’m a bit out of touch with this politics stuff.

Effluent inner city urbanites who vote green because they care about the environment.

OK, that makes me a Tree Tory with watermelon tendencies, or possibly vice versa.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Peak Warming Man said:

All I know is if the Greens hold the balance of power in the lower house after the election well have paedophiles grooming our kids in schools and handing out free marijuana to the kiddies.

You’ve mixed up catholic priests with hippies.

As much as this response is amusing it is gratifying that PWM’s bigoted bullshit was ignored for the hate speech it is.

We can all be thankful that PWM will leave this Earth miserable and alone having never known the unconditional love shared by parents and their kids which lets us accept each other despite our faults and differences in a way that only a true Christian would understand.

Here it is in capitals: PWM YOU CAN OFFICIALLLY FOAD as far as i am concerned.

Oh my goodness. The interpretive dance candidate is in my electorate!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO-TleNQCfM

buffy said:

Oh my goodness. The interpretive dance candidate is in my electorate!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO-TleNQCfM

VOTE 1 and vote often.

buffy said:

Oh my goodness. The interpretive dance candidate is in my electorate!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO-TleNQCfM

Wish he was here.

He’d have my vote for sure.

RIP Bob Hawke

The excitement of Tony Abbott losing?

Great PM .

I Hope Peter Dutton Leader of the Nazi SS Loses Tomorrow. !!!

Tau.Neutrino said:

I Hope Peter Dutton Leader of the Nazi SS Loses Tomorrow. !!!

The Rev Dodgson said:

buffy said:

Oh my goodness. The interpretive dance candidate is in my electorate!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO-TleNQCfM

Wish he was here.

He’d have my vote for sure.

Well, he will be above Dan Tehan. And it’s easy to work out who gets last – we’ve got a UAP candidate. And thinking about it, I could vote for him, because his votes will go to second preferences here. This is just soooo Liberal it amn’t funny.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I Hope Peter Dutton Leader of the Nazi SS Loses Tomorrow. !!!

You know, if you call these people nazis then you really need to come up with another name for nazis.

It’s just fucking ridiculous.

sibeen said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I Hope Peter Dutton Leader of the Nazi SS Loses Tomorrow. !!!

You know, if you call these people nazis then you really need to come up with another name for nazis.

It’s just fucking ridiculous.

hitlerites?

sibeen said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I Hope Peter Dutton Leader of the Nazi SS Loses Tomorrow. !!!

You know, if you call these people nazis then you really need to come up with another name for nazis.

It’s just fucking ridiculous.

fascisisitas _ little facisists ??

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

You know, if you call these people nazis then you really need to come up with another name for nazis.

It’s just fucking ridiculous.

fascisisitas _ little facisists ??

fascistinos?

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

You know, if you call these people nazis then you really need to come up with another name for nazis.

It’s just fucking ridiculous.

fascisisitas _ little facisists ??

It annoys me big time. I cannot stand Dutton, but to put a nazi uniform on him is just…WTF. It belittles the evil that the nazis really were.

sibeen said:

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

You know, if you call these people nazis then you really need to come up with another name for nazis.

It’s just fucking ridiculous.

fascisisitas _ little facisists ??

It annoys me big time. I cannot stand Dutton, but to put a nazi uniform on him is just…WTF. It belittles the evil that the nazis really were.

^ This