Date: 7/08/2009 18:57:20
From: al
ID: 61366
Subject: Elberta Peach

G,Day People,Sorry,have been AWOL but we have finally settled at Snowtown South Australia.After all the shifting We came home today with an Elberta Peach to be planted.Ive got the hang of how to plant,etc etc prune a third……..but the question is……the elberta, is it self pollinating? We were originally going to buy the elberta,but changed our minds to Oh Henry.Couldnt find one and the prices were through the roof,so thats how we came home with the Elberta………….Any info,as usual, would be appreciated………………….AL

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Date: 7/08/2009 23:08:41
From: pain master
ID: 61369
Subject: re: Elberta Peach

al said:

G,Day People,Sorry,have been AWOL but we have finally settled at Snowtown South Australia.After all the shifting We came home today with an Elberta Peach to be planted.Ive got the hang of how to plant,etc etc prune a third……..but the question is……the elberta, is it self pollinating? We were originally going to buy the elberta,but changed our minds to Oh Henry.Couldnt find one and the prices were through the roof,so thats how we came home with the Elberta………….Any info,as usual, would be appreciated………………….AL

no idea here, hope someone else knows..

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Date: 8/08/2009 10:53:35
From: Dinetta
ID: 61381
Subject: re: Elberta Peach

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080402074543AAcQys3
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Try here Al, it’s a Yankee site but the general principles are sound…If your soil is a clay type, you could do what my Grandfather did on gidyea clay (before tractors were common on properties): he dug a humongous hole over time, just kept flinging CowPoo into it until full, and grew a famous fig tree…

However you could prolly dig a one-metre hole, backfill with good sandy loam and place your peach on top? This is what my P & M did for the only orange tree that survived several droughts…

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Date: 8/08/2009 10:54:03
From: Dinetta
ID: 61382
Subject: re: Elberta Peach

Whoops, wrong answer blush

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Date: 8/08/2009 10:55:59
From: Dinetta
ID: 61383
Subject: re: Elberta Peach

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080717132715AATw7Ma
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Is this a better answer?

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Date: 8/08/2009 10:58:39
From: Dinetta
ID: 61384
Subject: re: Elberta Peach

http://www.arborday.org/trees/treeGuide/treeDetail.cfm?id=72
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Yup, looks like they might be (self-pollinating)…

Hope this helps…

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Date: 8/08/2009 20:53:39
From: al
ID: 61432
Subject: re: Elberta Peach

Thanks Dinetta, after I posted my question I took the time and had a look around.From the info you posted an what I gleaned from the web they are self pollinating……………..however,according to the experts if you plant two the amount of fruit the tree will bear will be substantial.Well,the tree is in the ground,staked,composted and with a frost barrier around it. Its entirely up to mother nature to take care of the rest!Regards………………..AL

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Date: 9/08/2009 06:45:55
From: Dinetta
ID: 61440
Subject: re: Elberta Peach

al said:


Thanks Dinetta, after I posted my question I took the time and had a look around.From the info you posted an what I gleaned from the web they are self pollinating……………..however,according to the experts if you plant two the amount of fruit the tree will bear will be substantial.Well,the tree is in the ground,staked,composted and with a frost barrier around it. Its entirely up to mother nature to take care of the rest!Regards………………..AL

Frost barrier! Where are you? (NOT said in that terrible Lara Bingle strine)

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Date: 9/08/2009 21:24:02
From: al
ID: 61516
Subject: re: Elberta Peach

Dinetta, about 140k’s north of Adelaide,verging on the Gilbert Valley.It certainly gets cold and frosty here with ice on car windows,…………..Regards………..AL

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Date: 10/08/2009 04:55:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 61519
Subject: re: Elberta Peach

Elberta should be frost tolerant, all peaches are.

Is self pollinating, nearly all peaches are.

When you plant it the most important thing is to place it so that the strongest growing parts of bark are facing the north and west. ie; this means that you do need to put the tree back in the ground the way it had been growing.

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Date: 10/08/2009 07:18:04
From: al
ID: 61520
Subject: re: Elberta Peach

OK Roughbarked,never heard of that one.Bit hard to do that know as its in the ground and how would you work out which way it was growing,tied up in a bag in a nursery………….Regards,…….AL

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Date: 10/08/2009 07:35:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 61521
Subject: re: Elberta Peach

al said:


OK Roughbarked,never heard of that one.Bit hard to do that know as its in the ground and how would you work out which way it was growing,tied up in a bag in a nursery………….Regards,…….AL

OK..

well if nursries did care that your plant grew then they’d put a marker on the north side. The truth of it is and I have proven this,; that nurseries will go broke if your plants all live. Thus it isn’t in the best interests of the nursery to lose your custom by showing you how to avoid killing your plants. Ya dig?

Now for the benefit of those whom haven’t already read my comments on such details or those whom cannot go look it up for themselves:

Translocatiing plants goes on all the time and in many cases succeeds reasonaably well enough to keep people happy.
However, this is often due to the fact that the new positions of the plants are sheltered and the plants well cared for.

Totally different when the situations are not protected, water is not plentiful and little time is allotted for TLC.

If one translocates any plant that has been sitting in the one spot.. then one will always get the best results if one relocates the plant in exactly the same aspect. One may rotate a plant in a pot al day.. tiresome though it may seem… and get say an orchid to grow and flower equally all the way around the pot. However if one leaves the orchid in the same position it will grow towards the available light.

When moving deciduous trees it is eas to make the mistakes due to the fact that it all looks dead but one knows that it is only dormant and thus believes that it will know what to do when the time comes for it to put on new growth.

The sunny side of any dormant tree will have stronger growth which glistens with health. The bark will be more robust and thicker, if there are less mature branches still attached you will note that the tops of the branches will differ similarly from the undersurfaces of the same branch.. Same goes for the north and south sides(in the southern hemishere). These younger branches will also show different colourations, ie; say in a peac or nectarine etc the surfaces that face north will be reddish and the surfaces facing south will be greenish.

If you face the thin bark to the north rather than to the south, then east becomes west and vice versa. Tis is a total disater to the well being of the tree.. Not because it makes the tree dizzy all this spinning around but more becase it exposes soft easterly bark to the searing westerly sun and that the shady side of the tree now faces the full aspect of the sun. Results usually = scalding of the bark, imminent death of at least one side of the branch, imminent entry of all manner of disease and termites etc., eventual death of the whole tree.

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Date: 10/08/2009 07:50:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 61522
Subject: re: Elberta Peach

my coffee sticky keyboard typos aside..
from the above you may glean that it is not too late to turn the tree around now.. if it upon investigation, proves to be planted arsaboutface.

All you need to do is be careful not to break off any new roots that have developed since you planted it.. and make sure you water it in very well.

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