What the thread title asks. Is there?

yes

ChrispenEvan said:

What the thread title asks. Is there?

Time to look up the oxford english dictionary on this one.

luck
NOUN

1. Success or failure apparently brought by chance rather than through one’s own actions.
‘it was just luck that the first kick went in’

1.1 Chance considered as a force that causes good or bad things to happen.

1.2 Something regarded as bringing about or portending good or bad things.
‘I don’t like Friday—it’s bad luck’

So, to answer question:
1. Yes.
1.1. No.
1.2. No.

Considering esselte’s recent post. Luck is an object, not an agent.

Unless you’re a believer in the strong anthropic principle. LOL. Or some religions.

esselte said:

transition said:

heightened readiness, disconcerted, whatever, what is the purpose of spooked, the sensation, or mental state I suppose if it persists.

Human brains are designed to categorically distinguish between “objects” and “agents”. Generally objects (eg a rock) do not present the same kind of danger that agents (eg a lion) do. There is thus an evolutionary advantage for those who tend to see agency even where there is none, and whose concern over that agent detection persists beyond the initial reaction. Having this advantage, our ancestors have passed down this tendency to presume the purposeful intervention of a sentient or intelligent agent in situations that may or may not involve one.

Being “spooked” is a result of conflict between hyperactive agency detection and rational analysis of the situation. The subconscious (agent detecting) part of our brain is telling us that there is something we should be concerned with, whilst the conscious rational part of our brain is saying “erm, no everything seems to be fine here”.

Luck can mean different things. E.g. I might say that someone had good luck if they won at the roulette table one evening, but all I mean by that is that they had good fortune on that occasion: random events went their way that night.

I agree with moll (and also dv who said much the same).

I would add that the “weak” and “strong” anthropic principles should be renamed “true” and “complete bullshit” respectively.

My mother liked to say I must have killed a Chinaman because I had such bad luck. Very inappropriate of her.

Apparently they isolated luck and inserted it into an injectable virus, Felicitus Populi

Cymek said:

Apparently they isolated luck and inserted it into an injectable virus, Felicitus Populi

Harry Potter?

mollwollfumble said:

Cymek said:

Apparently they isolated luck and inserted it into an injectable virus, Felicitus Populi

Harry Potter?

Red Dwarf

Gambling I imagine is actually bad luck as its geared towards the people controlling the gambling and you winning is circumstantial with a bit of knowledge added in to favour you. Machine gambling isn’t even luck its algorithm controlled which can be tweaked pro or con.

kii said:

My mother liked to say I must have killed a Chinaman because I had such bad luck. Very inappropriate of her.

Um…

Born Under a Bad Sign

Interesting philosophical question.
If you get on a plane and it crashes because of some unaccountable malfunction, that’s luck, bad luck.
If you are sitting in a taxi in heavy traffic swearing and cursing because you are going to miss that flight, that’s luck, good luck.
It’s akin to fate, there is no good or bate fate though.

one incontrovertible example is when others think you are or treat you as if, that you’re unsafe company that way, bad luck, so yeah.

all sorts of things are contagious of the social field, and made true

global warming and climate change could be said to increase bad luck for many, just as when the thermostat malfunctions in your car, it might get stuck closed for example, the engine may heat to a boil then blow a radiator hose.

does larry have an idea storms are bad luck, when he hears the wind, rain, and thunder? He does. He’s done many nights in a previous life out in the cold, with illness, and his instincts are descended of those that sheltered from storms successfully, though somewhat messed up by human breeding influences on dogs (which isn’t all selective, or good luck).

storms are potentially bad luck, especially the cold and illness/injury. Many creatures through history have died from exposure, and malnutrition, and disease.

getting around in the dark is potentially bad luck. You might trip over something, or fall off a cliff.

i’d reckon luck doesn’t exist outside homeostasis, that whatever of a creature involved in homeostasis is meant to maintain and protect the integrity of the organism, so in the broadest sense it’s about the fortunes of the organism.

transition said:

global warming and climate change could be said to increase bad luck for many, just as when the thermostat malfunctions in your car, it might get stuck closed for example, the engine may heat to a boil then blow a radiator hose.

does larry have an idea storms are bad luck, when he hears the wind, rain, and thunder? He does. He’s done many nights in a previous life out in the cold, with illness, and his instincts are descended of those that sheltered from storms successfully, though somewhat messed up by human breeding influences on dogs (which isn’t all selective, or good luck).

storms are potentially bad luck, especially the cold and illness/injury. Many creatures through history have died from exposure, and malnutrition, and disease.

getting around in the dark is potentially bad luck. You might trip over something, or fall off a cliff.

i’d reckon luck doesn’t exist outside homeostasis, that whatever of a creature involved in homeostasis is meant to maintain and protect the integrity of the organism, so in the broadest sense it’s about the fortunes of the organism.

most humans pair up for breeding, have instincts that translate into it’s bad luck not to pair for breeding. Your ancestors-that-could-have-been, that failed, that failed to breed, that’s the ultimate bad luck (it’s a failure to replicate).

pairs, bonds, and groups, multiply resources.

agriculture increased good luck, it provides reliable, even surplus food (and generates other resources). Extreme food scarcity can be very bad luck.

there is such a thing as luck/fortunes, probably all related to homeostasis in some way.

ChrispenEvan said:

What the thread title asks. Is there?

One can’t help good luck.

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

What the thread title asks. Is there?

One can’t help good luck.

So what stroke of luck brings you back to our humble forum? :)

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

What the thread title asks. Is there?

One can’t help good luck.

So what stroke of luck brings you back to our humble forum? :)

Yours? ;)

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

One can’t help good luck.

So what stroke of luck brings you back to our humble forum? :)

Yours? ;)

I’m just back in from a trip to White Cliffs and back, as you can see by the fact that I’m here.

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

One can’t help good luck.

So what stroke of luck brings you back to our humble forum? :)

Yours? ;)

Is luck related to serendipity?

Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So what stroke of luck brings you back to our humble forum? :)

Yours? ;)

Is luck related to serendipity?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serendipity Anonymous View

Serendipity means an unplanned, fortunate discovery. Serendipity is a common occurrence throughout the history of product invention and scientific discovery.

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Yours? ;)

Is luck related to serendipity?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serendipity Anonymous View

Serendipity means an unplanned, fortunate discovery. Serendipity is a common occurrence throughout the history of product invention and scientific discovery.

So it could be said that serendipity is good luck.

Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

Is luck related to serendipity?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serendipity Anonymous View

Serendipity means an unplanned, fortunate discovery. Serendipity is a common occurrence throughout the history of product invention and scientific discovery.

So it could be said that serendipity is good luck.

Indeed it is.

furious said:

Said a man with notoriously bad luck.

Tamb said:

furious said:

Said a man with notoriously bad luck.

Everybody knows luck is just the correct alignment of your stars.

PermeateFree said:

Tamb said:

furious said:

Said a man with notoriously bad luck.

Everybody knows luck is just the correct alignment of your stars.

Saw that the other night. Stood in a meteor shower at White Cliffs.

PermeateFree said:

Tamb said:

furious said:

Said a man with notoriously bad luck.

Everybody knows luck is just the correct alignment of your stars.

I thought it was to do with Ley Lines.

Tamb said:

PermeateFree said:

Tamb said:

Said a man with notoriously bad luck.

Everybody knows luck is just the correct alignment of your stars.

I thought it was to do with Ley Lines.

Fault lines.

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

PermeateFree said:

Everybody knows luck is just the correct alignment of your stars.

I thought it was to do with Ley Lines.

Fault lines.

Bad luck is nobody’s fault.

Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

I thought it was to do with Ley Lines.

Fault lines.

Bad luck is nobody’s fault.

It is you know. Some bugger didn’t put any colour in the opal.

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Fault lines.

Bad luck is nobody’s fault.

It is you know. Some bugger didn’t put any colour in the opal.

Oops I thought it was marble.

My favourite saying about luck is that it’s what happens when preparation meets opportunity.

MrsRule, on the other hand, seems to thinks there’s some aspect of innate good fortune that can be attached to an individual. “Rule,” she says, “only you could get away with that!”

Perhaps luck is in the eye of the beholder?

Rule 303 said:

My favourite saying about luck is that it’s what happens when preparation meets opportunity.

MrsRule, on the other hand, seems to thinks there’s some aspect of innate good fortune that can be attached to an individual. “Rule,” she says, “only you could get away with that!”

Perhaps luck is in the eye of the beholder?

Particularly when the observer isn’t the recipient of said good fortune.

• MrsRule, on the other hand, seems to thinks there’s some aspect of innate good fortune that can be attached to an individual. “Rule,” she says, “only you could get away with that!”

Maybe that is to say “Rule, only you would do such a thing.”, therefore as you are the only one to attempt it, you’d be the only one who could get away with it…

Rule 303 said:

My favourite saying about luck is that it’s what happens when preparation meets opportunity.

MrsRule, on the other hand, seems to thinks there’s some aspect of innate good fortune that can be attached to an individual. “Rule,” she says, “only you could get away with that!”

Perhaps luck is in the eye of the beholder?

Or optimists remember the “Good luck” while pessimists remember the bad.

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Fault lines.

Bad luck is nobody’s fault.

It is you know. Some bugger didn’t put any colour in the opal.

Well, actually he did change paintbrushes a bit.

furious said:

• MrsRule, on the other hand, seems to thinks there’s some aspect of innate good fortune that can be attached to an individual. “Rule,” she says, “only you could get away with that!”

Maybe that is to say “Rule, only you would do such a thing.”, therefore as you are the only one to attempt it, you’d be the only one who could get away with it…

Nah, she believes there’s some kind of ‘luck field’ around me. She carries a very high degree of confidence that everything is going to turn out OK if I’m involved.

Rule 303 said:

furious said:

• MrsRule, on the other hand, seems to thinks there’s some aspect of innate good fortune that can be attached to an individual. “Rule,” she says, “only you could get away with that!”

Maybe that is to say “Rule, only you would do such a thing.”, therefore as you are the only one to attempt it, you’d be the only one who could get away with it…

Nah, she believes there’s some kind of ‘luck field’ around me. She carries a very high degree of confidence that everything is going to turn out OK if I’m involved.

I’d just smile and carry on, in that case. ;)

roughbarked said:

Rule 303 said:

furious said:

• MrsRule, on the other hand, seems to thinks there’s some aspect of innate good fortune that can be attached to an individual. “Rule,” she says, “only you could get away with that!”

Maybe that is to say “Rule, only you would do such a thing.”, therefore as you are the only one to attempt it, you’d be the only one who could get away with it…

Nah, she believes there’s some kind of ‘luck field’ around me. She carries a very high degree of confidence that everything is going to turn out OK if I’m involved.

I’d just smile and carry on, in that case. ;)

She’s been right so far….

Rule 303 said:

My favourite saying about luck is that it’s what happens when preparation meets opportunity.

MrsRule, on the other hand, seems to thinks there’s some aspect of innate good fortune that can be attached to an individual. “Rule,” she says, “only you could get away with that!”

Perhaps luck is in the eye of the beholder?

Found a penny, but lost a pound.

PermeateFree said:

Rule 303 said:

My favourite saying about luck is that it’s what happens when preparation meets opportunity.

MrsRule, on the other hand, seems to thinks there’s some aspect of innate good fortune that can be attached to an individual. “Rule,” she says, “only you could get away with that!”

Perhaps luck is in the eye of the beholder?

Found a penny, but lost a pound.

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Rule 303 said:

My favourite saying about luck is that it’s what happens when preparation meets opportunity.

MrsRule, on the other hand, seems to thinks there’s some aspect of innate good fortune that can be attached to an individual. “Rule,” she says, “only you could get away with that!”

Perhaps luck is in the eye of the beholder?

Found a penny, but lost a pound.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Found a penny, but lost a pound.

I’ll have some of that.