Looking at a graph of UK GHG emissions, I was quite surprised to see that they had reduced from a peak of about 650 MT/year to less than 400 MT/year, and were still in steep decline.

I wondered how Australia was doing, and it was surprisingly hard to find the data.

But this looks like a pretty good summary:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2018/jan/09/australias-emissions-are-rising-its-time-for-this-government-to-quick-pretending

I suppose the good news is, coming from such a high base, it should be easy to achieve substantial reductions.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Looking at a graph of UK GHG emissions, I was quite surprised to see that they had reduced from a peak of about 650 MT/year to less than 400 MT/year, and were still in steep decline.

I wondered how Australia was doing, and it was surprisingly hard to find the data.

But this looks like a pretty good summary:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2018/jan/09/australias-emissions-are-rising-its-time-for-this-government-to-quick-pretending

I suppose the good news is, coming from such a high base, it should be easy to achieve substantial reductions.

It’s a bit of a mystery why the Guardian thinks that the government should engage in “quick-pretending” though.

The Rev Dodgson said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Looking at a graph of UK GHG emissions, I was quite surprised to see that they had reduced from a peak of about 650 MT/year to less than 400 MT/year, and were still in steep decline.

I wondered how Australia was doing, and it was surprisingly hard to find the data.

But this looks like a pretty good summary:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2018/jan/09/australias-emissions-are-rising-its-time-for-this-government-to-quick-pretending

I suppose the good news is, coming from such a high base, it should be easy to achieve substantial reductions.

It’s a bit of a mystery why the Guardian thinks that the government should engage in “quick-pretending” though.

Surely one can allow for the occasional typo.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Looking at a graph of UK GHG emissions, I was quite surprised to see that they had reduced from a peak of about 650 MT/year to less than 400 MT/year, and were still in steep decline.

I wondered how Australia was doing, and it was surprisingly hard to find the data.

But this looks like a pretty good summary:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2018/jan/09/australias-emissions-are-rising-its-time-for-this-government-to-quick-pretending

I suppose the good news is, coming from such a high base, it should be easy to achieve substantial reductions.

Not that easy in a developing country like Australia with an ever increasing population.
The UK’s population is pretty stable and they have nuclear and building more plus gas and wind.
In the UK climate change is just not a political issue and probably why the Greens are not a force there.
Actually Maggie Thatcher was the first world leader to blow the whistle on climate change.

Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Looking at a graph of UK GHG emissions, I was quite surprised to see that they had reduced from a peak of about 650 MT/year to less than 400 MT/year, and were still in steep decline.

I wondered how Australia was doing, and it was surprisingly hard to find the data.

But this looks like a pretty good summary:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2018/jan/09/australias-emissions-are-rising-its-time-for-this-government-to-quick-pretending

I suppose the good news is, coming from such a high base, it should be easy to achieve substantial reductions.

It’s a bit of a mystery why the Guardian thinks that the government should engage in “quick-pretending” though.

Surely one can allow for the occasional typo.

Hmmph.

Suppose so.

Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Looking at a graph of UK GHG emissions, I was quite surprised to see that they had reduced from a peak of about 650 MT/year to less than 400 MT/year, and were still in steep decline.

I wondered how Australia was doing, and it was surprisingly hard to find the data.

But this looks like a pretty good summary:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2018/jan/09/australias-emissions-are-rising-its-time-for-this-government-to-quick-pretending

I suppose the good news is, coming from such a high base, it should be easy to achieve substantial reductions.

Not that easy in a developing country like Australia with an ever increasing population.
The UK’s population is pretty stable and they have nuclear and building more plus gas and wind.
In the UK climate change is just not a political issue and probably why the Greens are not a force there.
Actually Maggie Thatcher was the first world leader to blow the whistle on climate change.

UK population has been going up again recently.

Hadn’t heard about Ms Thatcher being a World Leader in that area, but if she was, it’s a shame she didn’t have a word with young Tony to get him inclined the same way.

• UK population has been going up again recently.

Probably an inrush of foreigners before the borders are shut…

Its simple, just lower emissions shrug shoulders.

AwesomeO said:

Its simple, just lower emissions shrug shoulders.

If I worked in an Aluminium smelter in Australia right now I’d be pretty twitchy.

Peak Warming Man said:

AwesomeO said:

Its simple, just lower emissions shrug shoulders.

If I worked in an Aluminium smelter in Australia right now I’d be pretty twitchy.

Maybe they should move to Tasmania and use hydro.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Looking at a graph of UK GHG emissions, I was quite surprised to see that they had reduced from a peak of about 650 MT/year to less than 400 MT/year, and were still in steep decline.

I wondered how Australia was doing, and it was surprisingly hard to find the data.

But this looks like a pretty good summary:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2018/jan/09/australias-emissions-are-rising-its-time-for-this-government-to-quick-pretending

I suppose the good news is, coming from such a high base, it should be easy to achieve substantial reductions.

Not that easy in a developing country like Australia with an ever increasing population.
The UK’s population is pretty stable and they have nuclear and building more plus gas and wind.
In the UK climate change is just not a political issue and probably why the Greens are not a force there.
Actually Maggie Thatcher was the first world leader to blow the whistle on climate change.

UK population has been going up again recently.

Hadn’t heard about Ms Thatcher being a World Leader in that area, but if she was, it’s a shame she didn’t have a word with young Tony to get him inclined the same way.

https://youtu.be/aSrBO4_qPzo?t=7

there was a little bit to do with the conservatives’ (incl Mrs Thatcher) battles against the coal unions too, behind pushing for a switch to North Sea gas and nuclear over coal

just saying ….

party_pants said:

there was a little bit to do with the conservatives’ (incl Mrs Thatcher) battles against the coal unions too, behind pushing for a switch to North Sea gas and nuclear over coal

just saying ….

Everyone’s a winner…

Peak Warming Man said:

AwesomeO said:

Its simple, just lower emissions shrug shoulders.

If I worked in an Aluminium smelter in Australia right now I’d be pretty twitchy.

Aluminium exports are even more insignificant than the car industry we shut down. (~$200mil v $2bn)

Well done Australia for increasing emissions nothing but scaremongering this global warming

Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Not that easy in a developing country like Australia with an ever increasing population.
The UK’s population is pretty stable and they have nuclear and building more plus gas and wind.
In the UK climate change is just not a political issue and probably why the Greens are not a force there.
Actually Maggie Thatcher was the first world leader to blow the whistle on climate change.

UK population has been going up again recently.

Hadn’t heard about Ms Thatcher being a World Leader in that area, but if she was, it’s a shame she didn’t have a word with young Tony to get him inclined the same way.

https://youtu.be/aSrBO4_qPzo?t=7

OK, noted.

Whatever her motives, it was at least something good she did.

The Rev Dodgson said:

I suppose the good news is, coming from such a high base, it should be easy to achieve substantial reductions.

You’re in a positive mood today I take it.

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I suppose the good news is, coming from such a high base, it should be easy to achieve substantial reductions.

You’re in a positive mood today I take it.

As always :)

The Rev Dodgson said:

It’s a bit of a mystery why the Guardian thinks that the government should engage in “quick-pretending” though.

Have they been pretending to be slow…

PWM makes a sage point though, population changes mean that simply looking at the trends in absolute emission levels can be misleading or unfair, and it’s probably better to look at per capita emissions.

This GW nonsense is going to ruin this country

iF onLy theRE WeRe sOmetHing we CoUld dO

The-Spectator said:

This GW nonsense is going to ruin this country

Oh you… you know how we love your old lines.

Witty Rejoinder said:

The-Spectator said:

This GW nonsense is going to ruin this country

Oh you… you know how we love your old lines.

We need a strong leader whose going to make Australia great again someone who admires Trump

The-Spectator said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

The-Spectator said:

This GW nonsense is going to ruin this country

Oh you… you know how we love your old lines.

We need a strong leader whose going to make Australia great again someone who admires Trump

We need to triple our population first, before we go looking for leaders. Without a large population we are just placeholders sitting on a pile of valuable rocks.

The-Spectator said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

The-Spectator said:

This GW nonsense is going to ruin this country

Oh you… you know how we love your old lines.

We need a strong leader whose going to make Australia great again someone who admires Trump

Someone as insightful as you.

:)))

PermeateFree said:

The-Spectator said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Oh you… you know how we love your old lines.

We need a strong leader whose going to make Australia great again someone who admires Trump

Someone as insightful as you.

:)))

Perhaps only just started with The Liberals maybe in 10 years hopefully the nation hasn’t been ruined by hippies in the meantime

The-Spectator said:

PermeateFree said:

The-Spectator said:

We need a strong leader whose going to make Australia great again someone who admires Trump

Someone as insightful as you.

:)))

Perhaps only just started with The Liberals maybe in 10 years hopefully the nation hasn’t been ruined by hippies in the meantime

They grow it, you sell it.

PermeateFree said:

The-Spectator said:

PermeateFree said:

Someone as insightful as you.

:)))

Perhaps only just started with The Liberals maybe in 10 years hopefully the nation hasn’t been ruined by hippies in the meantime

They grow it, you sell it.

I prefer stocks in weapon manufacturers to buy and sell but if it makes me money I’ll sell anything

The-Spectator said:

PermeateFree said:

The-Spectator said:

We need a strong leader whose going to make Australia great again someone who admires Trump

Someone as insightful as you.

:)))

Perhaps only just started with The Liberals maybe in 10 years hopefully the nation hasn’t been ruined by hippies in the meantime

So only a baby, then. <31.

Michael V said:

The-Spectator said:

PermeateFree said:

Someone as insightful as you.

:)))

Perhaps only just started with The Liberals maybe in 10 years hopefully the nation hasn’t been ruined by hippies in the meantime

So only a baby, then. <31.

27 and already going places

The-Spectator said:

PermeateFree said:

The-Spectator said:

Perhaps only just started with The Liberals maybe in 10 years hopefully the nation hasn’t been ruined by hippies in the meantime

They grow it, you sell it.

I prefer stocks in weapon manufacturers to buy and sell but if it makes me money I’ll sell anything

I had already gathered that.

PermeateFree said:

The-Spectator said:

PermeateFree said:

They grow it, you sell it.

I prefer stocks in weapon manufacturers to buy and sell but if it makes me money I’ll sell anything

I had already gathered that.

I’m the better man, how about we meet up and bury that hatchet, I’ll even buy you a beer

The-Spectator said:

PermeateFree said:

The-Spectator said:

I prefer stocks in weapon manufacturers to buy and sell but if it makes me money I’ll sell anything

I had already gathered that.

I’m the better man, how about we meet up and bury that hatchet, I’ll even buy you a beer

It would probably be laced with a Micky Finn. So thanks, but no thanks.

Whales
love CO ₂

It feeds the plankton that feeds the whales.

Corals love
sea level rise

Without sea level rise, they all die when the reef gets near the surface.

mollwollfumble said:

Whales
love CO ₂

It feeds the plankton that feeds the whales.

Corals love
sea level rise

Without sea level rise, they all die when the reef gets near the surface.

So what is your point?