Date: 26/05/2019 19:44:47
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1391834
Subject: The bus wars are over. Electricity — and China — won

The bus wars are over and electricity has won — thanks to a big boost from China.

In fact, when it comes to electric bus purchases, China is outpacing the United States by an astounding 421,000 to 300 as of the end of 2018.

Thanks to China’s massive investment in and support for electric buses, electrics are now racing past a 50% share of new bus sales worldwide, according to a recent analysis by Bloomberg NEF (BNEF).

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Date: 26/05/2019 19:45:30
From: dv
ID: 1391835
Subject: re: The bus wars are over. Electricity — and China — won

Damn

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Date: 26/05/2019 19:54:01
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1391838
Subject: re: The bus wars are over. Electricity — and China — won

dv said:


Damn

Indeed. They do have some big ones to generate electrickery.

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Date: 26/05/2019 19:57:09
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1391840
Subject: re: The bus wars are over. Electricity — and China — won

Witty Rejoinder said:


dv said:

Damn

Indeed. They do have some big ones to generate electrickery.

three gorgeous ones.

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Date: 26/05/2019 20:07:47
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1391843
Subject: re: The bus wars are over. Electricity — and China — won

Witty Rejoinder said:


dv said:

Damn

Indeed. They do have some big ones to generate electrickery.

They’re gorgeous.

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Date: 26/05/2019 20:14:24
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1391844
Subject: re: The bus wars are over. Electricity — and China — won

Peak Warming Man said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

dv said:

Damn

Indeed. They do have some big ones to generate electrickery.

They’re gorgeous.

and pwm couldn’t post for 10 minutes.

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Date: 27/05/2019 21:36:15
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1392205
Subject: re: The bus wars are over. Electricity — and China — won

dv said:


Damn

You don’t like energy efficiency and grreenhouse gas reduction?

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Date: 27/05/2019 21:45:52
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1392206
Subject: re: The bus wars are over. Electricity — and China — won

I talked to a local green councillor today on facebook about this. He mentioned that the north of the state is buying diesel buses on the understanding that they can be converted easier in the future…

I don’t think they get it.

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Date: 27/05/2019 23:08:08
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1392227
Subject: re: The bus wars are over. Electricity — and China — won

sarahs mum said:


I talked to a local green councillor today on facebook about this. He mentioned that the north of the state is buying diesel buses on the understanding that they can be converted easier in the future…

I don’t think they get it.

Well, diesel is the third best technology, beaten out only by diesel electric and electric.

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Date: 28/05/2019 09:42:23
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1392274
Subject: re: The bus wars are over. Electricity — and China — won

mollwollfumble said:


sarahs mum said:

I talked to a local green councillor today on facebook about this. He mentioned that the north of the state is buying diesel buses on the understanding that they can be converted easier in the future…

I don’t think they get it.

Well, diesel is the third best technology, beaten out only by diesel electric and electric.

How does diesel beat hydrogen?
Or even natural gas?
Or even petrol hybrid?

I think the move to diesel for small vehicles is now being seen as a mistake in Europe. They are still highly polluting, even if CO2 emissions are lower than petrol.

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Date: 28/05/2019 09:45:51
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1392278
Subject: re: The bus wars are over. Electricity — and China — won

The Rev Dodgson said:


mollwollfumble said:

sarahs mum said:

I talked to a local green councillor today on facebook about this. He mentioned that the north of the state is buying diesel buses on the understanding that they can be converted easier in the future…

I don’t think they get it.

Well, diesel is the third best technology, beaten out only by diesel electric and electric.

How does diesel beat hydrogen?
Or even natural gas?
Or even petrol hybrid?

I think the move to diesel for small vehicles is now being seen as a mistake in Europe. They are still highly polluting, even if CO2 emissions are lower than petrol.

A good example of what happens when legislation goes wrong, penalise CO2 and sooty particulates rise. And quickly as well, I get British car mags, market went passenger diesel very quickly. Resale must be a bugger now.

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