Date: 28/05/2019 13:36:04
From: dv
ID: 1392415
Subject: 10000 falsehoods: a database

Fact Checker had identified 10000 falsehoods made by President Trump since his inauguration.

On average this makes 12 per day but the average since he began running press gaggles himself rather than regular press briefings by press secretaries has been 22 per day.

Obviously all politicians lie, but the sheer volume of bullshit is a couple of orders of magnitude higher than previous presidents or contemporary politicians.

Obviously some falsehoods are more blatant than others, and Checker assigns 1 to 4 Pinocchios. Additionally they have created a category called The Bottomless Pinocchio, granted when the speaker repeats a 3 or 4 Pinocchio lie more than 20 times, as this is taken as an indication that they are definitely continuing with a statement they must know is untrue. Trump has accumulated a couple of dozen separate Bottomless Pinocchio.

The biggest category is on the topic of immigration. Interestingly, they don’t count it when the same lie is repeated multiple times in the same speech. For instance if he repeated the same lie 4 times in the same rally, that would only count as 1. Given his repetitivity, including these multiple lies would increase the count a lot.

Hear this interview between Galen Druke of 538 and Fact Checker’s Glenn Kessler
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/politics-podcast-what-we-can-learn-from-a-database-of-trumps-false-statements/

About Fact Checker
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/07/about-fact-checker/?noredirect=on

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Date: 28/05/2019 13:51:03
From: Cymek
ID: 1392423
Subject: re: 10000 falsehoods: a database

dv said:


Fact Checker had identified 10000 falsehoods made by President Trump since his inauguration.

On average this makes 12 per day but the average since he began running press gaggles himself rather than regular press briefings by press secretaries has been 22 per day.

Obviously all politicians lie, but the sheer volume of bullshit is a couple of orders of magnitude higher than previous presidents or contemporary politicians.

Obviously some falsehoods are more blatant than others, and Checker assigns 1 to 4 Pinocchios. Additionally they have created a category called The Bottomless Pinocchio, granted when the speaker repeats a 3 or 4 Pinocchio lie more than 20 times, as this is taken as an indication that they are definitely continuing with a statement they must know is untrue. Trump has accumulated a couple of dozen separate Bottomless Pinocchio.

The biggest category is on the topic of immigration. Interestingly, they don’t count it when the same lie is repeated multiple times in the same speech. For instance if he repeated the same lie 4 times in the same rally, that would only count as 1. Given his repetitivity, including these multiple lies would increase the count a lot.

Hear this interview between Galen Druke of 538 and Fact Checker’s Glenn Kessler
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/politics-podcast-what-we-can-learn-from-a-database-of-trumps-false-statements/

About Fact Checker
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/07/about-fact-checker/?noredirect=on

It could become a drinking game, every lie you take a drink

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Date: 28/05/2019 14:31:40
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1392454
Subject: re: 10000 falsehoods: a database

Let me know when Australian politicians are added to the database.

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Date: 28/05/2019 14:32:21
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1392455
Subject: re: 10000 falsehoods: a database

Surely that deserves some sort of trophy. Ten thousand is an impressive number of lies.

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Date: 28/05/2019 14:40:19
From: dv
ID: 1392462
Subject: re: 10000 falsehoods: a database

mollwollfumble said:


Let me know when Australian politicians are added to the database.

There just aren’t any parallels in Australia. Even the worst of them only seem to tell a handful of out and out lies per term in office, to the extent that when they do so it is considered newsworthy.

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Date: 28/05/2019 14:40:28
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1392463
Subject: re: 10000 falsehoods: a database

Divine Angel said:


Surely that deserves some sort of trophy. Ten thousand is an impressive number of lies.

Impressive how he achieved such a well-rounded number.

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Date: 28/05/2019 14:44:20
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1392464
Subject: re: 10000 falsehoods: a database

Divine Angel said:


Surely that deserves some sort of trophy. Ten thousand is an impressive number of lies.

yugely impressive.

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Date: 28/05/2019 14:48:07
From: Tamb
ID: 1392465
Subject: re: 10000 falsehoods: a database

Bubblecar said:


Divine Angel said:

Surely that deserves some sort of trophy. Ten thousand is an impressive number of lies.

Impressive how he achieved such a well-rounded number.


Vietnam war body count method.

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Date: 28/05/2019 14:49:27
From: dv
ID: 1392466
Subject: re: 10000 falsehoods: a database

Bubblecar said:


Divine Angel said:

Surely that deserves some sort of trophy. Ten thousand is an impressive number of lies.

Impressive how he achieved such a well-rounded number.

Well of course he shot past that. He reached the mark nearly a month ago and is now over 10400.

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Date: 28/05/2019 15:01:02
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1392471
Subject: re: 10000 falsehoods: a database

Divine Angel said:


Surely that deserves some sort of trophy. Ten thousand is an impressive number of lies.

His reward will not be of this world.

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Date: 28/05/2019 15:03:34
From: Cymek
ID: 1392472
Subject: re: 10000 falsehoods: a database

Peak Warming Man said:


Divine Angel said:

Surely that deserves some sort of trophy. Ten thousand is an impressive number of lies.

His reward will not be of this world.

Dingalings do stupid things you don’t want to be like them at all

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Date: 28/05/2019 15:04:54
From: dv
ID: 1392473
Subject: re: 10000 falsehoods: a database

Peak Warming Man said:


Divine Angel said:

Surely that deserves some sort of trophy. Ten thousand is an impressive number of lies.

His reward will not be of this world.

“I’m not to impressed, frankly, 7 Circles is nothing, at Maralago I had 100 Circles, some say the best Circles ever.”

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Date: 28/05/2019 15:27:17
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1392481
Subject: re: 10000 falsehoods: a database

I think Trumps vanity and narcissism obscures his observation, the number of lies indicates corruption and or stupidity.

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Date: 28/05/2019 15:33:56
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1392483
Subject: re: 10000 falsehoods: a database

And he throws multiple insults and tantrums in the white house.

His policies are destructive and are ultimately unproductive.

He certainly will be remembered for being a destructive President.

He has created inefficiencies and doesn’t not care about consequences.

His lies are all part of his behaviour.

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Date: 28/05/2019 15:39:07
From: Cymek
ID: 1392485
Subject: re: 10000 falsehoods: a database

Tau.Neutrino said:


I think Trumps vanity and narcissism obscures his observation, the number of lies indicates corruption and or stupidity.

You do wonder about people who are caught out lying but continue to do it, are they mental and/or have a distorted view of what occcured

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Date: 28/05/2019 15:40:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 1392487
Subject: re: 10000 falsehoods: a database

Cymek said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

I think Trumps vanity and narcissism obscures his observation, the number of lies indicates corruption and or stupidity.

You do wonder about people who are caught out lying but continue to do it, are they mental and/or have a distorted view of what occcured

Usually they are up de nile in a barbed wire canoe without a paddle.

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Date: 28/05/2019 15:42:54
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1392489
Subject: re: 10000 falsehoods: a database

Maybe the lies are part of his narcissism?

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Date: 28/05/2019 15:51:53
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1392494
Subject: re: 10000 falsehoods: a database

Cymek said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

I think Trumps vanity and narcissism obscures his observation, the number of lies indicates corruption and or stupidity.

You do wonder about people who are caught out lying but continue to do it, are they mental and/or have a distorted view of what occcured

Yes I think this has clearly happened. the lies, the fake news, his ego and eccentric personality has distorted his job as President making the White House unproductive and inefficient, run by a maniac in a high chair, throwing food to the floor when cant get his own way.

The number of people that have left the white house indicates he is not a team player. It indicates a lot of other things.

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Date: 28/05/2019 16:12:09
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1392505
Subject: re: 10000 falsehoods: a database

I can see Trump being a Bond villain in the future.

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Date: 28/05/2019 16:13:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 1392506
Subject: re: 10000 falsehoods: a database

Tau.Neutrino said:


I can see Trump being a Bond villain in the future.

I wouldn’t tell him that. It will give him something to plan for.

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Date: 28/05/2019 16:19:17
From: Cymek
ID: 1392511
Subject: re: 10000 falsehoods: a database

roughbarked said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

I can see Trump being a Bond villain in the future.

I wouldn’t tell him that. It will give him something to plan for.

Moneypenny “Bond you mission is to kill the villain known as Orange Shit Gibbon, accompanying you will be kii an Australian grandmother secret agent”

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Date: 28/05/2019 16:23:50
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1392518
Subject: re: 10000 falsehoods: a database

Cymek said:


roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I can see Trump being a Bond villain in the future.

I wouldn’t tell him that. It will give him something to plan for.

Moneypenny “Bond you mission is to kill the villain known as Orange Shit Gibbon, accompanying you will be kii an Australian grandmother secret agent”

MI6 Q will have a great time with the Russian election meddling.

They will have a great time.

:)

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Date: 28/05/2019 17:07:39
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1392534
Subject: re: 10000 falsehoods: a database

They should cast Alec Baldwin to play Trump as the Bond Villain

https://www.thewrap.com/snl-trump-administration-sings-corruption-themed-version-of-queens-dont-stop-me-now-video/

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Date: 28/05/2019 17:14:02
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1392535
Subject: re: 10000 falsehoods: a database

Tau.Neutrino said:


They should cast Alec Baldwin to play Trump as the Bond Villain

https://www.thewrap.com/snl-trump-administration-sings-corruption-themed-version-of-queens-dont-stop-me-now-video/

Cringe, President Cringe.

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Date: 28/05/2019 19:55:44
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1392587
Subject: re: 10000 falsehoods: a database

Tau.Neutrino said:


I can see Trump being a Bond villain in the future.

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