Date: 4/06/2019 05:24:36
From: transition
ID: 1395044
Subject: mental parallax, the theft of

so mostly everything you do is to patronize calendars and clocks, some sort of temporal field, in service to, servitude.

it’s your mum’s fault perhaps, various desires inclined her to replicate, and hitchhiking on those was a desire to give something a birth day, and a name. You’ve got a name, you’ll never know if that was more or less important than giving you a cyclic calendar date, an anniversary.

it’s the state that merges the name with a date, giving the cyclic calendar legitimacy, and your existence I guess, though I can’t say which is first in importance. I can say calendars and clocks will outlive you.

there was a time when people had to wind clocks, the relationship was obvious. Way back further there were sundials, and it was obvious a shadow could usefully point. People even shared the pointing shadow.

today there are billions of calendars and clocks. Not much winding, and little is said of the pointing shadow.

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Date: 4/06/2019 08:04:16
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1395056
Subject: re: mental parallax, the theft of

transition said:


so mostly everything you do is to patronize calendars and clocks, some sort of temporal field, in service to, servitude.

it’s your mum’s fault perhaps, various desires inclined her to replicate, and hitchhiking on those was a desire to give something a birth day, and a name. You’ve got a name, you’ll never know if that was more or less important than giving you a cyclic calendar date, an anniversary.

it’s the state that merges the name with a date, giving the cyclic calendar legitimacy, and your existence I guess, though I can’t say which is first in importance. I can say calendars and clocks will outlive you.

there was a time when people had to wind clocks, the relationship was obvious. Way back further there were sundials, and it was obvious a shadow could usefully point. People even shared the pointing shadow.

today there are billions of calendars and clocks. Not much winding, and little is said of the pointing shadow.

I suspect that the moving shadows still have more effect than we are aware of.

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Date: 4/06/2019 08:06:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 1395057
Subject: re: mental parallax, the theft of

The Rev Dodgson said:


transition said:

so mostly everything you do is to patronize calendars and clocks, some sort of temporal field, in service to, servitude.

it’s your mum’s fault perhaps, various desires inclined her to replicate, and hitchhiking on those was a desire to give something a birth day, and a name. You’ve got a name, you’ll never know if that was more or less important than giving you a cyclic calendar date, an anniversary.

it’s the state that merges the name with a date, giving the cyclic calendar legitimacy, and your existence I guess, though I can’t say which is first in importance. I can say calendars and clocks will outlive you.

there was a time when people had to wind clocks, the relationship was obvious. Way back further there were sundials, and it was obvious a shadow could usefully point. People even shared the pointing shadow.

today there are billions of calendars and clocks. Not much winding, and little is said of the pointing shadow.

I suspect that the moving shadows still have more effect than we are aware of.

In.deed your suspiscions are most likely correct

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Date: 4/06/2019 09:37:58
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1395072
Subject: re: mental parallax, the theft of

> hitchhiking on those was a desire to give something a birth day, and a name. You’ve got a name, you’ll never know if that was more or less important than giving you a cyclic calendar date, an anniversary. It’s the state that merges the name with a date, giving the cyclic calendar legitimacy, and your existence I guess, though I can’t say which is first in importance.

This idea was explored in Big Bang Theory. Leonard has never had a birthday, and never missed not having one. The talk goes roughly like “in our family we celebrate achievements, and getting shoved out of a birth canal is not considered an achievement.”

> Way back further there were sundials, and it was obvious a shadow could usefully point. People even shared the pointing shadow.

Every now and then i itch to go to London and Graffiti a sundial marking the shadow of Cleopatra’s needle in Westminster.

Off topic, but if you want to think of how the ancients moved and lifted 200 ton stones, you could do worse that study how Cleopatra’s needle was transported from Egypt to London and then erected in what is now ancient times.

> The theft of mental parallax

I think of it this way. Ensuring safety and comfort requires security. Security requires disassociation, and leads the way to secrecy and to corruption.

So it’s not theft. It’s part of a self-imposed cycle that leads to failure.

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