Date: 4/06/2019 18:00:32
From: buffy
ID: 1395296
Subject: Patient consent

I read a report of the NSW ophthalmology scientific meeting this afternoon. One of the speakers talked about electronic medical records. She said all the usual stuff about backing up, updating, etc. A couple of her points were interesting:

“Jackson was adamant that no staff ever have social media accounts on practice systems.”

“Where cloud storage is used, she advised that storage should be in Australia, encrypted in Australia and backed up in Australia….To complicate matters, she believes that patient consent is required for cloud data storage even if it is to be stored in Australia.”

The patient consent bit was interesting.

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Date: 4/06/2019 18:03:52
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1395300
Subject: re: Patient consent

Call me eccentric, but I don’t care who knows about my medical history. As long as the relevant medicos have access to it.

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Date: 4/06/2019 18:05:30
From: Speedy
ID: 1395302
Subject: re: Patient consent

buffy said:


“Jackson was adamant that no staff ever have social media accounts on practice systems.”

Is this because they are easily hacked, potentially leading to the practice system being hacked?

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Date: 4/06/2019 18:06:07
From: Speedy
ID: 1395304
Subject: re: Patient consent

You are so eccentric Mr Car :)

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Date: 4/06/2019 18:06:17
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1395305
Subject: re: Patient consent

buffy said:

“Where cloud storage is used, she advised that storage should be in Australia, encrypted in Australia and backed up in Australia….To complicate matters, she believes that patient consent is required for cloud data storage even if it is to be stored in Australia.”

Pfft just use blockchain. Much more secure.

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Date: 4/06/2019 18:07:42
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1395307
Subject: re: Patient consent

Bubblecar said:


Call me eccentric, but I don’t care who knows about my medical history. As long as the relevant medicos have access to it.

If anyone bothered to search this forum, they’ll probably find my entire medical history.

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Date: 4/06/2019 18:07:50
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1395308
Subject: re: Patient consent

Bubblecar said:


Call me eccentric, but I don’t care who knows about my medical history. As long as the relevant medicos have access to it.

+1

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Date: 4/06/2019 18:12:32
From: buffy
ID: 1395312
Subject: re: Patient consent

Speedy said:


buffy said:

“Jackson was adamant that no staff ever have social media accounts on practice systems.”

Is this because they are easily hacked, potentially leading to the practice system being hacked?

I assume so. It was just a summary of the conference, so the details of each speaker’s presentation were quite short.

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Date: 4/06/2019 18:32:50
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1395322
Subject: re: Patient consent

Divine Angel said:


Bubblecar said:

Call me eccentric, but I don’t care who knows about my medical history. As long as the relevant medicos have access to it.

If anyone bothered to search this forum, they’ll probably find my entire medical history.

I keep detailed notes.

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Date: 4/06/2019 18:33:40
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1395324
Subject: re: Patient consent

Witty Rejoinder said:


Divine Angel said:

Bubblecar said:

Call me eccentric, but I don’t care who knows about my medical history. As long as the relevant medicos have access to it.

If anyone bothered to search this forum, they’ll probably find my entire medical history.

I keep detailed notes.

takes note.

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Date: 4/06/2019 18:42:44
From: sibeen
ID: 1395326
Subject: re: Patient consent

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/telstra-to-cut-another-10000-workers-in-mass-sacking-060624539.html

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Date: 4/06/2019 18:45:32
From: sibeen
ID: 1395329
Subject: re: Patient consent

sibeen said:


https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/telstra-to-cut-another-10000-workers-in-mass-sacking-060624539.html

When Bubbles does it it is a mistake, when I do it it is an accident.

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Date: 4/06/2019 18:51:30
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1395332
Subject: re: Patient consent

sibeen said:


sibeen said:

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/telstra-to-cut-another-10000-workers-in-mass-sacking-060624539.html

When Bubbles does it it is a mistake, when I do it it is an accident.

I don’t think Bubbles has laid off 1000 workers by mistake.

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Date: 4/06/2019 18:52:40
From: sibeen
ID: 1395333
Subject: re: Patient consent

Peak Warming Man said:


sibeen said:

sibeen said:

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/telstra-to-cut-another-10000-workers-in-mass-sacking-060624539.html

When Bubbles does it it is a mistake, when I do it it is an accident.

I don’t think Bubbles has laid off 1000 workers by mistake.

You’re out by an order of magnitude.

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Date: 4/06/2019 18:59:13
From: Speedy
ID: 1395339
Subject: re: Patient consent

buffy said:


Speedy said:

buffy said:

“Jackson was adamant that no staff ever have social media accounts on practice systems.”

Is this because they are easily hacked, potentially leading to the practice system being hacked?

I assume so. It was just a summary of the conference, so the details of each speaker’s presentation were quite short.

I recently bought a domain name from someone who owns a similarly named business. Unfortunately once I set up my new email with a “catch-all” email address, I began receiving all of the previous owner’s emails, including emails addressed to all her staff. I ended up setting up a reply message to most of these email addresses stating that the recipient could no longer be found at that email address and to contact them using another method.

Anyhow, one of her staff members used her work email to set up her Facebook account and I was receiving her notifications from fb. Thinking this deserved a more urgent response from me, I looked for this person but it appeared that she had no on-line presence apart from fb, so I clicked on a link (on the email) and it took me straight to her fb account, fully signed-in as her. It is a worry.

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Date: 4/06/2019 19:00:45
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1395341
Subject: re: Patient consent

Speedy said:


buffy said:

Speedy said:

Is this because they are easily hacked, potentially leading to the practice system being hacked?

I assume so. It was just a summary of the conference, so the details of each speaker’s presentation were quite short.

I recently bought a domain name from someone who owns a similarly named business. Unfortunately once I set up my new email with a “catch-all” email address, I began receiving all of the previous owner’s emails, including emails addressed to all her staff. I ended up setting up a reply message to most of these email addresses stating that the recipient could no longer be found at that email address and to contact them using another method.

Anyhow, one of her staff members used her work email to set up her Facebook account and I was receiving her notifications from fb. Thinking this deserved a more urgent response from me, I looked for this person but it appeared that she had no on-line presence apart from fb, so I clicked on a link (on the email) and it took me straight to her fb account, fully signed-in as her. It is a worry.

Dear oh dear.

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Date: 4/06/2019 20:03:34
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1395356
Subject: re: Patient consent

Peak Warming Man said:


Bubblecar said:

Call me eccentric, but I don’t care who knows about my medical history. As long as the relevant medicos have access to it.

+1

+1

Ideally i have access also, but that’s a pretty forlorn hope. I don’t even have access to what the shrink i visited said about me.

As for the cloud stuff and facebook and social media stuff, that’s just a sign of paranoia.

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Date: 4/06/2019 20:20:48
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1395358
Subject: re: Patient consent

It’s not paranoia. Cloud storage and social media is easy to hack, and there are people out there who will pay for your data.

Blockchain is harder to crack because it is decentralised with no one person or company holding all the keys.

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Date: 4/06/2019 20:23:34
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1395361
Subject: re: Patient consent

But of course, I’m a blockchain stooge because it’s what Mr Mutant does.

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Date: 4/06/2019 20:27:21
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1395362
Subject: re: Patient consent

Divine Angel said:


It’s not paranoia. Cloud storage and social media is easy to hack, and there are people out there who will pay for your data.

Blockchain is harder to crack because it is decentralised with no one person or company holding all the keys.

Aren’t all blockchain transactions visible to anyone? I’ve never heard of blockchain being encrypted.

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Date: 4/06/2019 20:55:46
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1395374
Subject: re: Patient consent

buffy said:


I read a report of the NSW ophthalmology scientific meeting this afternoon. One of the speakers talked about electronic medical records. She said all the usual stuff about backing up, updating, etc. A couple of her points were interesting:

“Jackson was adamant that no staff ever have social media accounts on practice systems.”

“Where cloud storage is used, she advised that storage should be in Australia, encrypted in Australia and backed up in Australia….To complicate matters, she believes that patient consent is required for cloud data storage even if it is to be stored in Australia.”

The patient consent bit was interesting.

The social media stuff is because people are morons and download things they shouldn’t.

Implied consent…heh

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Date: 4/06/2019 21:15:10
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1395379
Subject: re: Patient consent

Witty Rejoinder said:


Divine Angel said:

It’s not paranoia. Cloud storage and social media is easy to hack, and there are people out there who will pay for your data.

Blockchain is harder to crack because it is decentralised with no one person or company holding all the keys.

Aren’t all blockchain transactions visible to anyone? I’ve never heard of blockchain being encrypted.

It can be done, depends on the blockchain. You could add a nonce, for example.

I’m talking blockchain for data use, not cryptocurrency transactions. Still in relative infancy; the company Mr Mutant works for sells custom blockchain whatevers to businesses to protect and distribute information. On their website they have a model for preventing data fraud and protecting identities, which is also a threat if one’s medical data is hacked.

(Mr Mutant doesn’t work on this specifically, FIIK what he actually does. He tries to tell me but it’s way past the limit of my smarts.)

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Date: 4/06/2019 21:39:53
From: Arts
ID: 1395382
Subject: re: Patient consent

Bubblecar said:


Call me eccentric, but I don’t care who knows about my medical history. As long as the relevant medicos have access to it.

One of the issues with this and the ability to hack is that insurance companies can find out things you may not want them to know.. or assume things based on medical history..

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Date: 4/06/2019 21:44:52
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1395385
Subject: re: Patient consent

Speedy said:


buffy said:

Speedy said:

Is this because they are easily hacked, potentially leading to the practice system being hacked?

I assume so. It was just a summary of the conference, so the details of each speaker’s presentation were quite short.

I recently bought a domain name from someone who owns a similarly named business. Unfortunately once I set up my new email with a “catch-all” email address, I began receiving all of the previous owner’s emails, including emails addressed to all her staff. I ended up setting up a reply message to most of these email addresses stating that the recipient could no longer be found at that email address and to contact them using another method.

Anyhow, one of her staff members used her work email to set up her Facebook account and I was receiving her notifications from fb. Thinking this deserved a more urgent response from me, I looked for this person but it appeared that she had no on-line presence apart from fb, so I clicked on a link (on the email) and it took me straight to her fb account, fully signed-in as her. It is a worry.

Not a worry, the simple rule is: never put anything on the internet that you wouldn’t like your worst enemy to see. Then completely dispense with all passwords.

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Date: 4/06/2019 22:51:39
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1395412
Subject: re: Patient consent

Divine Angel said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Divine Angel said:

It’s not paranoia. Cloud storage and social media is easy to hack, and there are people out there who will pay for your data.

Blockchain is harder to crack because it is decentralised with no one person or company holding all the keys.

Aren’t all blockchain transactions visible to anyone? I’ve never heard of blockchain being encrypted.

It can be done, depends on the blockchain. You could add a nonce, for example.

I’m talking blockchain for data use, not cryptocurrency transactions. Still in relative infancy; the company Mr Mutant works for sells custom blockchain whatevers to businesses to protect and distribute information. On their website they have a model for preventing data fraud and protecting identities, which is also a threat if one’s medical data is hacked.

Ta.

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Date: 4/06/2019 23:59:44
From: kii
ID: 1395420
Subject: re: Patient consent

Witty Rejoinder said:


Divine Angel said:

Bubblecar said:

Call me eccentric, but I don’t care who knows about my medical history. As long as the relevant medicos have access to it.

If anyone bothered to search this forum, they’ll probably find my entire medical history.

I keep detailed notes.

That’s my job.

Poop ! Now I have nothing else to do!

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