As a secret schizoid, I’m confident I can declare myself as such without my secret being revealed :)

It’s an interesting cluster of characteristics:

>The ‘secret schizoid’

Many schizoid individuals display an engaging, interactive personality contradicting the observable characteristic emphasized by the DSM-5 and ICD-10 definitions of the schizoid personality. Guntrip (using ideas of Klein, Fairbairn, and Winnicott) classifies these individuals as “secret schizoids”, who behave with socially available, interested, engaged, and involved interaction yet remain emotionally withdrawn and sequestered within the safety of the internal world.:p. 17

Frequently, a schizoid individual’s social functioning improves, sometimes dramatically, when the individual knows he or she is an anonymous participant in a real-time conversation or correspondence, e.g. in an online chat-room or message-board. Indeed, it is often the case the individual’s online correspondent will report nothing amiss in the individual’s engagement and affect.

Withdrawal or detachment from the outer world is a characteristic feature of schizoid pathology, but may appear either in “classic” or in “secret” form. When classic, it matches the typical description of the schizoid personality offered in the DSM-5. It is “just as often” a hidden internal state: that which meets the objective eye may not match the subjective, internal world of the patient. Klein cautions one should not miss identifying the schizoid person because one cannot see the person’s withdrawal through the patient’s defensive, compensatory interaction with external reality. He suggests one ask the person what his or her subjective experience is, to detect the presence of the schizoid refusal of emotional intimacy.

Descriptions of the schizoid personality as “hidden” behind an outward appearance of emotional engagement have been recognized since 1940 with Fairbairn’s description of “schizoid exhibitionism,” in which the schizoid individual is able to express a great deal of feeling and to make what appear to be impressive social contacts yet in reality gives nothing and loses nothing. Because he or she is “playing a part,” his or her personality is not involved. According to Fairbairn, the person disowns the part he is playing and the schizoid individual seeks to preserve his personality intact and immune from compromise. Further references to the secret schizoid come from Masud Khan, Jeffrey Seinfeld, and Philip Manfield, who give a description of an SPD individual who “enjoys” public speaking engagements but experiences great difficulty in the breaks when audience members would attempt to engage him emotionally. These references expose the problems in relying on outer observable behavior for assessing the presence of personality disorders in certain individuals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoid_personality_disorder#The_’secret_schizoid’

I was diagnosed with “severe schizoid personality disorder” at the age of eighteen, and it was indeed extremely severe in those days. Any social interaction filled me with extreme anxiety and an all-consuming need to distance my “real self” from it as much as possible. In the meantime, my real self existed entirely in the safety of my own mind, where it luxuriated in a never-ending fantasy world, which I still remember with much affection :)

All that has decayed somewhat with the passage of time. I’m not sure that this decay was necessarily a good thing.

I’m more “me” here than I’ve been in any other social sphere, but I’m still safe, more or less. I can go away if necessary. You only know me a little bit and you can’t really hurt me.

On the other hand, I do really care about the people here. You are real people and I’ve formed real bonds. If I seem distant or inconsistent at times, remember it’s because I’m a nutcase :)

Bubblecar said:

I was diagnosed with “severe schizoid personality disorder” at the age of eighteen, and it was indeed extremely severe in those days. Any social interaction filled me with extreme anxiety and an all-consuming need to distance my “real self” from it as much as possible. In the meantime, my real self existed entirely in the safety of my own mind, where it luxuriated in a never-ending fantasy world, which I still remember with much affection :)

All that has decayed somewhat with the passage of time. I’m not sure that this decay was necessarily a good thing.

I’m more “me” here than I’ve been in any other social sphere, but I’m still safe, more or less. I can go away if necessary. You only know me a little bit and you can’t really hurt me.

On the other hand, I do really care about the people here. You are real people and I’ve formed real bonds. If I seem distant or inconsistent at times, remember it’s because I’m a nutcase :)

I think most people here have some sort of mental disorder, otherwise they wouldn’t be here. So you fit in quite well.

Bubblecar said:

I was diagnosed with “severe schizoid personality disorder” at the age of eighteen, and it was indeed extremely severe in those days. Any social interaction filled me with extreme anxiety and an all-consuming need to distance my “real self” from it as much as possible. In the meantime, my real self existed entirely in the safety of my own mind, where it luxuriated in a never-ending fantasy world, which I still remember with much affection :)

All that has decayed somewhat with the passage of time. I’m not sure that this decay was necessarily a good thing.

I’m more “me” here than I’ve been in any other social sphere, but I’m still safe, more or less. I can go away if necessary. You only know me a little bit and you can’t really hurt me.

On the other hand, I do really care about the people here. You are real people and I’ve formed real bonds. If I seem distant or inconsistent at times, remember it’s because I’m a nutcase :)

A little bit of a surprise, but not entirely. If you have not seen a psychiatrist for some time it would be worth a go. I still suspect something else because you are somewhat theatrical (look @ me). Could be comorbidity, incorrect original diagnoses or other? Psychiatry has moved a lot in 40 years!

Bubblecar said:

As a secret schizoid, I’m confident I can declare myself as such without my secret being revealed :)

It’s an interesting cluster of characteristics:

>The ‘secret schizoid’

Many schizoid individuals display an engaging, interactive personality contradicting the observable characteristic emphasized by the DSM-5 and ICD-10 definitions of the schizoid personality. Guntrip (using ideas of Klein, Fairbairn, and Winnicott) classifies these individuals as “secret schizoids”, who behave with socially available, interested, engaged, and involved interaction yet remain emotionally withdrawn and sequestered within the safety of the internal world.:p. 17

Frequently, a schizoid individual’s social functioning improves, sometimes dramatically, when the individual knows he or she is an anonymous participant in a real-time conversation or correspondence, e.g. in an online chat-room or message-board. Indeed, it is often the case the individual’s online correspondent will report nothing amiss in the individual’s engagement and affect.

Withdrawal or detachment from the outer world is a characteristic feature of schizoid pathology, but may appear either in “classic” or in “secret” form. When classic, it matches the typical description of the schizoid personality offered in the DSM-5. It is “just as often” a hidden internal state: that which meets the objective eye may not match the subjective, internal world of the patient. Klein cautions one should not miss identifying the schizoid person because one cannot see the person’s withdrawal through the patient’s defensive, compensatory interaction with external reality. He suggests one ask the person what his or her subjective experience is, to detect the presence of the schizoid refusal of emotional intimacy.

Descriptions of the schizoid personality as “hidden” behind an outward appearance of emotional engagement have been recognized since 1940 with Fairbairn’s description of “schizoid exhibitionism,” in which the schizoid individual is able to express a great deal of feeling and to make what appear to be impressive social contacts yet in reality gives nothing and loses nothing. Because he or she is “playing a part,” his or her personality is not involved. According to Fairbairn, the person disowns the part he is playing and the schizoid individual seeks to preserve his personality intact and immune from compromise. Further references to the secret schizoid come from Masud Khan, Jeffrey Seinfeld, and Philip Manfield, who give a description of an SPD individual who “enjoys” public speaking engagements but experiences great difficulty in the breaks when audience members would attempt to engage him emotionally. These references expose the problems in relying on outer observable behavior for assessing the presence of personality disorders in certain individuals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoid_personality_disorder#The_’secret_schizoid’

Wikipedia is the last place anyone should go for psychiatry. It is just wrong!

Bubblecar said:

As a secret schizoid, I’m confident I can declare myself as such without my secret being revealed :)

It’s an interesting cluster of characteristics:

>The ‘secret schizoid’

Many schizoid individuals display an engaging, interactive personality contradicting the observable characteristic emphasized by the DSM-5 and ICD-10 definitions of the schizoid personality. Guntrip (using ideas of Klein, Fairbairn, and Winnicott) classifies these individuals as “secret schizoids”, who behave with socially available, interested, engaged, and involved interaction yet remain emotionally withdrawn and sequestered within the safety of the internal world.:p. 17

Frequently, a schizoid individual’s social functioning improves, sometimes dramatically, when the individual knows he or she is an anonymous participant in a real-time conversation or correspondence, e.g. in an online chat-room or message-board. Indeed, it is often the case the individual’s online correspondent will report nothing amiss in the individual’s engagement and affect.

Withdrawal or detachment from the outer world is a characteristic feature of schizoid pathology, but may appear either in “classic” or in “secret” form. When classic, it matches the typical description of the schizoid personality offered in the DSM-5. It is “just as often” a hidden internal state: that which meets the objective eye may not match the subjective, internal world of the patient. Klein cautions one should not miss identifying the schizoid person because one cannot see the person’s withdrawal through the patient’s defensive, compensatory interaction with external reality. He suggests one ask the person what his or her subjective experience is, to detect the presence of the schizoid refusal of emotional intimacy.

Descriptions of the schizoid personality as “hidden” behind an outward appearance of emotional engagement have been recognized since 1940 with Fairbairn’s description of “schizoid exhibitionism,” in which the schizoid individual is able to express a great deal of feeling and to make what appear to be impressive social contacts yet in reality gives nothing and loses nothing. Because he or she is “playing a part,” his or her personality is not involved. According to Fairbairn, the person disowns the part he is playing and the schizoid individual seeks to preserve his personality intact and immune from compromise. Further references to the secret schizoid come from Masud Khan, Jeffrey Seinfeld, and Philip Manfield, who give a description of an SPD individual who “enjoys” public speaking engagements but experiences great difficulty in the breaks when audience members would attempt to engage him emotionally. These references expose the problems in relying on outer observable behavior for assessing the presence of personality disorders in certain individuals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoid_personality_disorder#The_’secret_schizoid’

That description exactly matches someone i know quite well, in real life.

>you are somewhat theatrical

he’s not entirely unimaginative, expressly so, and territorial about it, that’s apparent.

transition said:

>you are somewhat theatrical

he’s not entirely unimaginative, expressly so, and territorial about it, that’s apparent.

This is inconsistent with a Schizoid.

Duck said:

transition said:

>you are somewhat theatrical

he’s not entirely unimaginative, expressly so, and territorial about it, that’s apparent.

This is inconsistent with a Schizoid.

you should look up fixation.

“Schizoid” isn’t some star sign personality profile, it’s a pattern of tendencies common to a diverse range of people with their own unique characteristics.

A rich imagination is usually part of that pattern. Many creative people have schizoid tendencies.

Bubblecar said:

“Schizoid” isn’t some star sign personality profile, it’s a pattern of tendencies common to a diverse range of people with their own unique characteristics.

A rich imagination is usually part of that pattern. Many creative people have schizoid tendencies.

Much more like a HPD that has been incorrectly diagnosed and driven into isolation. To transition, nil fixation.

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

“Schizoid” isn’t some star sign personality profile, it’s a pattern of tendencies common to a diverse range of people with their own unique characteristics.

A rich imagination is usually part of that pattern. Many creative people have schizoid tendencies.

Much more like a HPD that has been incorrectly diagnosed and driven into isolation. To transition, nil fixation.

What are your qualifications?

You don’t know me and this forum doesn’t know who you are.

Andrew Denton more than likely picked Rolf Harris as HPD. At his trial he started singing Jake the Peg.

This individual cannot even make a cup of tea without turning it into a “show”.

I have seen you about.

Duck said:

Andrew Denton more than likely picked Rolf Harris as HPD. At his trial he started singing Jake the Peg.

This individual cannot even make a cup of tea without turning it into a “show”.

I have seen you about.

You’re talking nonsense. I engage here socially because that’s what the place is for.

Should be flattered Mr Car, Duck seems to have quite the thing for you.

Bubblecar said:

Duck said:

Andrew Denton more than likely picked Rolf Harris as HPD. At his trial he started singing Jake the Peg.

This individual cannot even make a cup of tea without turning it into a “show”.

I have seen you about.

You’re talking nonsense. I engage here socially because that’s what the place is for.

Once again, Schizoids are indifferent to what other people think.

I find various personality diagnosis somewhat insulting if you don’t fit into societies idea of normal something is wrong with you.
I’d be considered schizoid I don’t like social engagement as for the most part I have very little in common with just about everyone I meet and find conversations about people boring and are quite content to be by myself. I don’t have your common emotional reactions to many things especially if I am not personally involved with them. Normal is quite possibly why the world is in such a mess, those that crave power should be the last ones considered for the position.

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

Duck said:

Andrew Denton more than likely picked Rolf Harris as HPD. At his trial he started singing Jake the Peg.

This individual cannot even make a cup of tea without turning it into a “show”.

I have seen you about.

You’re talking nonsense. I engage here socially because that’s what the place is for.

Once again, Schizoids are indifferent to what other people think.

Not necessarily. “Schizoid” covers a wide range of social responses, often contradictory in the descriptions and dependent on contrasting “overt” and “covert” traits.

Much depends on how “safe” the individual feels.

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

Duck said:

Andrew Denton more than likely picked Rolf Harris as HPD. At his trial he started singing Jake the Peg.

This individual cannot even make a cup of tea without turning it into a “show”.

I have seen you about.

You’re talking nonsense. I engage here socially because that’s what the place is for.

Once again, Schizoids are indifferent to what other people think.

That’s a good thing though, people say nonsense so who knows how much further thinking of nonsense occurs

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

Duck said:

Andrew Denton more than likely picked Rolf Harris as HPD. At his trial he started singing Jake the Peg.

This individual cannot even make a cup of tea without turning it into a “show”.

I have seen you about.

You’re talking nonsense. I engage here socially because that’s what the place is for.

Once again, Schizoids are indifferent to what other people think.

That is totally false, only people who aren’t schizoid are indifferent to what other people think. Secret schizoids die inside if they don’t get positive feedback from outside.

I’ve noticed how many people who would be considered a social person just do it to big note themselves and are actually annoying as they crave attention for just existing.

Bubblecar said:

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

You’re talking nonsense. I engage here socially because that’s what the place is for.

Once again, Schizoids are indifferent to what other people think.

Not necessarily. “Schizoid” covers a wide range of social responses, often contradictory in the descriptions and dependent on contrasting “overt” and “covert” traits.

Much depends on how “safe” the individual feels.

You have not seen a psychiatrist this century! Please do so.

Cymek said:

I find various personality diagnosis somewhat insulting if you don’t fit into societies idea of normal something is wrong with you.
I’d be considered schizoid I don’t like social engagement as for the most part I have very little in common with just about everyone I meet and find conversations about people boring and are quite content to be by myself. I don’t have your common emotional reactions to many things especially if I am not personally involved with them. Normal is quite possibly why the world is in such a mess, those that crave power should be the last ones considered for the position.

There’s a lot of overlap between “normal introversion” and what are described as schizoid tendencies.

mollwollfumble said:

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

You’re talking nonsense. I engage here socially because that’s what the place is for.

Once again, Schizoids are indifferent to what other people think.

That is totally false, only people who aren’t schizoid are indifferent to what other people think. Secret schizoids die inside if they don’t get positive feedback from outside.

Schizoid people can be extremely sensitive to any kind of feedback, and although misleadingly described as “emotionally cold” are often secretly the opposite.

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

I find various personality diagnosis somewhat insulting if you don’t fit into societies idea of normal something is wrong with you.
I’d be considered schizoid I don’t like social engagement as for the most part I have very little in common with just about everyone I meet and find conversations about people boring and are quite content to be by myself. I don’t have your common emotional reactions to many things especially if I am not personally involved with them. Normal is quite possibly why the world is in such a mess, those that crave power should be the last ones considered for the position.

There’s a lot of overlap between “normal introversion” and what are described as schizoid tendencies.

Yes I imagine so

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

Duck said:

Once again, Schizoids are indifferent to what other people think.

Not necessarily. “Schizoid” covers a wide range of social responses, often contradictory in the descriptions and dependent on contrasting “overt” and “covert” traits.

Much depends on how “safe” the individual feels.

You have not seen a psychiatrist this century! Please do so.

I don’t need a psychiatrist.

poikilotherm said:

Should be flattered Mr Car, Duck seems to have quite the thing for you.

getting the covers off for some diagnostics

Bubblecar said:

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

Not necessarily. “Schizoid” covers a wide range of social responses, often contradictory in the descriptions and dependent on contrasting “overt” and “covert” traits.

Much depends on how “safe” the individual feels.

You have not seen a psychiatrist this century! Please do so.

I don’t need a psychiatrist.

You diagnosed yourself didn’t you?

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

Duck said:

You have not seen a psychiatrist this century! Please do so.

I don’t need a psychiatrist.

You diagnosed yourself didn’t you?

Who knows themselves better than themselves you’ve been living in your own head your entire life and if intelligent and insightful are more than qualified to make a diagnosis.

mollwollfumble said:

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

You’re talking nonsense. I engage here socially because that’s what the place is for.

Once again, Schizoids are indifferent to what other people think.

That is totally false, only people who aren’t schizoid are indifferent to what other people think. Secret schizoids die inside if they don’t get positive feedback from outside.

From what page of DSM-5 are you reading from?

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

Duck said:

You have not seen a psychiatrist this century! Please do so.

I don’t need a psychiatrist.

You diagnosed yourself didn’t you?

No, I was diagnosed by a psychiatrist in conjunction with a whole team of other psychiatrists. I was a day patient at a clinic for most of a year.

Bubblecar said:

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

I don’t need a psychiatrist.

You diagnosed yourself didn’t you?

No, I was diagnosed by a psychiatrist in conjunction with a whole team of other psychiatrists. I was a day patient at a clinic for most of a year.

40 years ago?

• Who knows themselves better than themselves you’ve been living in your own head your entire life and if intelligent and insightful are more than qualified to make a diagnosis.

I’m going to have to disagree with that…

Flanders: It’s called, “Twice Shy”

Both: When a man comes bouncing into a pub, With a couple of girls in tow. When he sets up a a shout of,
Flanders: “Drinks all round, And a table for six, please, Joe!”

Swann: When he kisses the barmaid, Knocks down the dartboard,
Flanders: “Whoops, sorry!”
Swann: Yells for the cabaret.
Flanders: “Bring on the golliwog girls!”
Both: When you’re wondering whether you might move on, Someone is sure to say,

Flanders: “I say, you know what his trouble really is, don’t you? Underneath all that noise, he’s really a very shy person.”

Both: He’s shy, he’s shy, Though he wears a fluorescent tie. With a deep-down need to assert himself, We know the reason why.

He’s shy, he’s shy, Give him another try. When you hear his voice in a crowded room, And that laugh - Swann: AAAAAHH-HAAAA-HAAAA-HAAAA! Flanders: - like a sonic boom, Both: Go right on over to meet your doom, ‘Cause underneath he’s shy, He’s really terribly shy. When it’s Ladies’ Night at the Carlton Club, And a young woman comes in. Smoking a six-inch Burma sheroot, And playing a violin.

Flanders: When she leaps on a table, Strips off her sable, Shouting,
Swann: “Who wants a lark?”
Both: Then the elderly member who signed her in, Will tentatively remark,

Flanders: “Yes, well I’m afraid she does tend to over-compensate for a basic lack of self-confidence.”

Both: She’s shy, she’s shy, She’s as sensitive as you or I. Too bad she has to behave like that, It makes you want to cry.

She’s shy, so shy, We know the reason why. Though her private life is a public mess, And she’s written a book called, “I confess”. Still, she looks quite sweet in her topless dress, And underneath she’s shy, she’s really dreadfully shy.

Flanders: Well, of course there are times when we’re all ill-at-ease, Though we try to act suave and cool. When everyone seems to know everyone else, It’s just like that first day at school.

It can be a nuisance, Affecting insouciance, Trying to mix with the crowd. Knowing that one is probably talking just that tiny little bit too fast, Both: And laughing a lot too loud. (Pause)

Flanders: (Muttering) Well, where’s the laugh, then?
Swann: (Muttering) There are…
Flanders: (Muttering) … though you’d do it again…
Swann: (Muttering) There are people looking!
Flanders: (Muttering) Well, I’m not going to do it, for goodness sake! Ooh, it’s like acting with Lassie!

Both: We’re shy, we’re shy, You’ve have spotted it with half an eye. And it does no good to conceal that fact, It’s useless to deny.

Flanders: You’re shy, I’m shy!
Swann: I’m shy, you’re shy!
Both: However hard we try. Though we’ve got the music and words off pat,
Flanders: Well, very nearly.
Both: Every blessed time that we drop our hat, We can’t help wondering what we’re at.

Flanders: Donald, have you ever woken up in the middle of one of these shows, and gazed out at all these rows and rows of all that is finest and best, and asked yourself what on earth we are doing out here?

Both: ‘Cause underneath, we’re shy, We’re really terribly shy, Let’s get out of here!

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

Duck said:

You diagnosed yourself didn’t you?

No, I was diagnosed by a psychiatrist in conjunction with a whole team of other psychiatrists. I was a day patient at a clinic for most of a year.

40 years ago?

I’ve got better since then, not worse :)

I do need better stress management. Maybe a psychiatrist would be able to prescribe something but it should be possible to use non-drug techniques.

Bubblecar said:

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

No, I was diagnosed by a psychiatrist in conjunction with a whole team of other psychiatrists. I was a day patient at a clinic for most of a year.

40 years ago?

I’ve got better since then, not worse :)

I do need better stress management. Maybe a psychiatrist would be able to prescribe something but it should be possible to use non-drug techniques.

Do you not find a diagnosis of we don’t think you are normal insulting to be blunt fuck them for deciding that, normal people are the ones that do the most harm

Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

Duck said:

40 years ago?

I’ve got better since then, not worse :)

I do need better stress management. Maybe a psychiatrist would be able to prescribe something but it should be possible to use non-drug techniques.

Do you not find a diagnosis of we don’t think you are normal insulting to be blunt fuck them for deciding that, normal people are the ones that do the most harm

It’s hard to say. I feel “normal” but I don’t have to live a normal life. I wouldn’t last long if I had to live a life that didn’t allow me to hide away and do my own thing.

Bubblecar said:

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

No, I was diagnosed by a psychiatrist in conjunction with a whole team of other psychiatrists. I was a day patient at a clinic for most of a year.

40 years ago?

I’ve got better since then, not worse :)

I do need better stress management. Maybe a psychiatrist would be able to prescribe something but it should be possible to use non-drug techniques.

Quantum leap forward!

40 years ago they were still giving homosexuals ECT to “cure” them.

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

Duck said:

40 years ago?

I’ve got better since then, not worse :)

I do need better stress management. Maybe a psychiatrist would be able to prescribe something but it should be possible to use non-drug techniques.

Quantum leap forward!

40 years ago they were still giving homosexuals ECT to “cure” them.

weird really in’t, like sex is a kind of ECT, so imagine the heterosexuals tying gays up, putting electrodes on their heads and, flicking the switch and watching the conversion. Kinky stuff.

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

Duck said:

40 years ago?

I’ve got better since then, not worse :)

I do need better stress management. Maybe a psychiatrist would be able to prescribe something but it should be possible to use non-drug techniques.

Quantum leap forward!

40 years ago they were still giving homosexuals ECT to “cure” them.

They still cop it in some nations

Cymek said:

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

I’ve got better since then, not worse :)

I do need better stress management. Maybe a psychiatrist would be able to prescribe something but it should be possible to use non-drug techniques.

Quantum leap forward!

40 years ago they were still giving homosexuals ECT to “cure” them.

They still cop it in some nations

behind the fridge

Just by way of an example; roughbarked displays the enthusiasm of a schizoid.

Duck said:

Just by way of an example; roughbarked displays the enthusiasm of a schizoid.

;) pleased to be of assistance, your duckness.

roughbarked said:

Duck said:

Just by way of an example; roughbarked displays the enthusiasm of a schizoid.

;) pleased to be of assistance, your duckness.

He’s Doctor Duck, he gives a fuck,
He peeps in here to wish us luck,
And diagnose us front to back,
He’s not just any random quack

Duck said:

Just by way of an example; roughbarked displays the enthusiasm of a schizoid.

It is the 21st century thing

Ha, looked up Histrionic Personality Disorder (Dr Duck’s diagnosis) and it’s pretty much the opposite of me :)

>HPD lies in the dramatic cluster of personality disorders. People with HPD have a high need for attention, make loud and inappropriate appearances, exaggerate their behaviors and emotions, and crave stimulation.<

This forum (and rather limited contact with relatives) is pretty much my only social interaction. I’m very shy in real life and tend to be averse to human contact except under very limited conditions.

As for stimulation, I’m notorious for being over-stimulated by things that other people find extremely mild. Which is why it can take me days to watch a single film (I often abandon them completely if they’re too tense or “exciting”), and I can spend a whole evening looking at a single artwork or photograph.

That’s a trait common to many highly introverted people, an avoidance of stimulation rather than a craving for it.

Given my talents, if I had HPD I would have been famous many years ago :) As it happens I’ve never been ambitious and uninhibited enough to get much work out there. I’ve been threatening to put some of my music on Youtube for many years and still haven’t got around to it.

Bubblecar said:

Ha, looked up Histrionic Personality Disorder (Dr Duck’s diagnosis) and it’s pretty much the opposite of me :)

>HPD lies in the dramatic cluster of personality disorders. People with HPD have a high need for attention, make loud and inappropriate appearances, exaggerate their behaviors and emotions, and crave stimulation.<

This forum (and rather limited contact with relatives) is pretty much my only social interaction. I’m very shy in real life and tend to be averse to human contact except under very limited conditions.

As for stimulation, I’m notorious for being over-stimulated by things that other people find extremely mild. Which is why it can take me days to watch a single film (I often abandon them completely if they’re too tense or “exciting”), and I can spend a whole evening looking at a single artwork or photograph.

That’s a trait common to many highly introverted people, an avoidance of stimulation rather than a craving for it.

Given my talents, if I had HPD I would have been famous many years ago :) As it happens I’ve never been ambitious and uninhibited enough to get much work out there. I’ve been threatening to put some of my music on Youtube for many years and still haven’t got around to it.

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

Duck said:

Andrew Denton more than likely picked Rolf Harris as HPD. At his trial he started singing Jake the Peg.

This individual cannot even make a cup of tea without turning it into a “show”.

I have seen you about.

You’re talking nonsense. I engage here socially because that’s what the place is for.

Once again, Schizoids are indifferent to what other people think.

To generalize is easy but in truth there is no consistent profile for any psychiatric disorder it is more that you fit more than you don’t and of course there is dual diagnosis which from bubblecar’s own admission at this point would be his challenge with alcohol. Me we all have our foibles and speaking up is brave and a good thing imo bubblecar. So good for you!

monkey skipper said:

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

You’re talking nonsense. I engage here socially because that’s what the place is for.

Once again, Schizoids are indifferent to what other people think.

To generalize is easy but in truth there is no consistent profile for any psychiatric disorder it is more that you fit more than you don’t and of course there is dual diagnosis which from bubblecar’s own admission at this point would be his challenge with alcohol. Me we all have our foibles and speaking up is brave and a good thing imo bubblecar. So good for you!

Yes but if seems to be denoted as bad or not normal which I don’t agree with, what passes for normal most of the time can be quite destructive.

monkey skipper said:

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

You’re talking nonsense. I engage here socially because that’s what the place is for.

Once again, Schizoids are indifferent to what other people think.

To generalize is easy but in truth there is no consistent profile for any psychiatric disorder it is more that you fit more than you don’t and of course there is dual diagnosis which from bubblecar’s own admission at this point would be his challenge with alcohol. Me we all have our foibles and speaking up is brave and a good thing imo bubblecar. So good for you!

by not consistent … I mean there is variation in how a patient matched the diagnosis. One person’s experience of schizophrenia is different to another’s … different disorder but still a good example of what I meant.

I found it quite interesting to read about a lady’s form of schizophrenia the other day bubblecar as she hears music like a symphony and those are her symptoms of her disorder for her. She has taken to studying music and now attempts to put the music she hears into music that she writes and plays in her real life. :)

monkey skipper said:

monkey skipper said:

Duck said:

Once again, Schizoids are indifferent to what other people think.

To generalize is easy but in truth there is no consistent profile for any psychiatric disorder it is more that you fit more than you don’t and of course there is dual diagnosis which from bubblecar’s own admission at this point would be his challenge with alcohol. Me we all have our foibles and speaking up is brave and a good thing imo bubblecar. So good for you!

by not consistent … I mean there is variation in how a patient matched the diagnosis. One person’s experience of schizophrenia is different to another’s … different disorder but still a good example of what I meant.

I found it quite interesting to read about a lady’s form of schizophrenia the other day bubblecar as she hears music like a symphony and those are her symptoms of her disorder for her. She has taken to studying music and now attempts to put the music she hears into music that she writes and plays in her real life. :)

Ta for the sympathy monkey :)

But schizoid personality disorder is different from schizophrenia and less debilitating. Schizophrenia involves psychotic symptoms that don’t appear in SPD,

Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

monkey skipper said:

To generalize is easy but in truth there is no consistent profile for any psychiatric disorder it is more that you fit more than you don’t and of course there is dual diagnosis which from bubblecar’s own admission at this point would be his challenge with alcohol. Me we all have our foibles and speaking up is brave and a good thing imo bubblecar. So good for you!

by not consistent … I mean there is variation in how a patient matched the diagnosis. One person’s experience of schizophrenia is different to another’s … different disorder but still a good example of what I meant.

I found it quite interesting to read about a lady’s form of schizophrenia the other day bubblecar as she hears music like a symphony and those are her symptoms of her disorder for her. She has taken to studying music and now attempts to put the music she hears into music that she writes and plays in her real life. :)

Ta for the sympathy monkey :)

But schizoid personality disorder is different from schizophrenia and less debilitating. Schizophrenia involves psychotic symptoms that don’t appear in SPD,

yeah. I did know they’re different disorders but it was a simple example that people can experience the same disorder and have varying symptoms and true of all disorders.

monkey skipper said:

Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

by not consistent … I mean there is variation in how a patient matched the diagnosis. One person’s experience of schizophrenia is different to another’s … different disorder but still a good example of what I meant.

I found it quite interesting to read about a lady’s form of schizophrenia the other day bubblecar as she hears music like a symphony and those are her symptoms of her disorder for her. She has taken to studying music and now attempts to put the music she hears into music that she writes and plays in her real life. :)

Ta for the sympathy monkey :)

But schizoid personality disorder is different from schizophrenia and less debilitating. Schizophrenia involves psychotic symptoms that don’t appear in SPD,

yeah. I did know they’re different disorders but it was a simple example that people can experience the same disorder and have varying symptoms and true of all disorders.

“One person’s experience of schizophrenia is different to another’s … ######different disorder######### but still a good example of what I meant.”

monkey skipper said:

Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

by not consistent … I mean there is variation in how a patient matched the diagnosis. One person’s experience of schizophrenia is different to another’s … different disorder but still a good example of what I meant.

I found it quite interesting to read about a lady’s form of schizophrenia the other day bubblecar as she hears music like a symphony and those are her symptoms of her disorder for her. She has taken to studying music and now attempts to put the music she hears into music that she writes and plays in her real life. :)

Ta for the sympathy monkey :)

But schizoid personality disorder is different from schizophrenia and less debilitating. Schizophrenia involves psychotic symptoms that don’t appear in SPD,

yeah. I did know they’re different disorders but it was a simple example that people can experience the same disorder and have varying symptoms and true of all disorders.

Yes. Best not to take the standard profiles too literally.

Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

Bubblecar said:

Ta for the sympathy monkey :)

But schizoid personality disorder is different from schizophrenia and less debilitating. Schizophrenia involves psychotic symptoms that don’t appear in SPD,

yeah. I did know they’re different disorders but it was a simple example that people can experience the same disorder and have varying symptoms and true of all disorders.

Yes. Best not to take the standard profiles too literally.

and at least you know why you do what you do. some people spend a lifetime wondering.

monkey skipper said:

Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

yeah. I did know they’re different disorders but it was a simple example that people can experience the same disorder and have varying symptoms and true of all disorders.

Yes. Best not to take the standard profiles too literally.

and at least you know why you do what you do. some people spend a lifetime wondering.

Well I can put a name to it but I can’t claim I understand it :)

Don’t think anybody does at this stage.

I’d love to have a brain rejig that would make me less stressed and more able to get out there and express myself. Maybe I’ll get there one day.

monkey skipper said:

Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

yeah. I did know they’re different disorders but it was a simple example that people can experience the same disorder and have varying symptoms and true of all disorders.

Yes. Best not to take the standard profiles too literally.

and at least you know why you do what you do. some people spend a lifetime wondering.

I am reasonably confident he is still wondering, he is not schizoid!

Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

Bubblecar said:

Yes. Best not to take the standard profiles too literally.

and at least you know why you do what you do. some people spend a lifetime wondering.

Well I can put a name to it but I can’t claim I understand it :)

Don’t think anybody does at this stage.

I’d love to have a brain rejig that would make me less stressed and more able to get out there and express myself. Maybe I’ll get there one day.

I don’t know if this suggestion helps you.

1:if a thought or worry is trapped in a circle or anxiety then sometimes thinking of what you would prefer things be like is a helpful tool. Because you think beyond the fear or worry when you do.

2:Then think of the steps or action to get from where you are to where you want to be.

3: Then read back through all of the steps you thought of and pick one or maybe two things you could reasonably achieve now to make a step in the direction of your goal.

monkey skipper said:

Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

and at least you know why you do what you do. some people spend a lifetime wondering.

Well I can put a name to it but I can’t claim I understand it :)

Don’t think anybody does at this stage.

I’d love to have a brain rejig that would make me less stressed and more able to get out there and express myself. Maybe I’ll get there one day.

I don’t know if this suggestion helps you.

1:if a thought or worry is trapped in a circle or anxiety then sometimes thinking of what you would prefer things be like is a helpful tool. Because you think beyond the fear or worry when you do.

2:Then think of the steps or action to get from where you are to where you want to be.

3: Then read back through all of the steps you thought of and pick one or maybe two things you could reasonably achieve now to make a step in the direction of your goal.

Ta. What I need to do most importantly is find effective stress management techniques that don’t involve alcohol.

I’ve become far too reliant on the booze and it’s neither effective nor sustainable, and is contributing to increasing depression which is an added problem I don’t need.

Duck said:

monkey skipper said:

Bubblecar said:

Yes. Best not to take the standard profiles too literally.

and at least you know why you do what you do. some people spend a lifetime wondering.

I am reasonably confident he is still wondering, he is not schizoid!

blah blah blah

Duck is convinced I’m HPD. I would pay good money to swap the SPD for the HPD :)

Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

Bubblecar said:

Well I can put a name to it but I can’t claim I understand it :)

Don’t think anybody does at this stage.

I’d love to have a brain rejig that would make me less stressed and more able to get out there and express myself. Maybe I’ll get there one day.

I don’t know if this suggestion helps you.

1:if a thought or worry is trapped in a circle or anxiety then sometimes thinking of what you would prefer things be like is a helpful tool. Because you think beyond the fear or worry when you do.

2:Then think of the steps or action to get from where you are to where you want to be.

3: Then read back through all of the steps you thought of and pick one or maybe two things you could reasonably achieve now to make a step in the direction of your goal.

Ta. What I need to do most importantly is find effective stress management techniques that don’t involve alcohol.

I’ve become far too reliant on the booze and it’s neither effective nor sustainable, and is contributing to increasing depression which is an added problem I don’t need.

Well, I don’t know if the Salvos have a program near you but in Queensland there are programs to support getting clean from alcohol and support through medicare funded programs. There would be programs near you I imagine and giving it a go on your own plus some helpers might work.

Bubblecar said:

Duck is convinced I’m HPD. I would pay good money to swap the SPD for the HPD :)

I like spc fruit does that count?

monkey skipper said:

Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

I don’t know if this suggestion helps you.

1:if a thought or worry is trapped in a circle or anxiety then sometimes thinking of what you would prefer things be like is a helpful tool. Because you think beyond the fear or worry when you do.

2:Then think of the steps or action to get from where you are to where you want to be.

3: Then read back through all of the steps you thought of and pick one or maybe two things you could reasonably achieve now to make a step in the direction of your goal.

Ta. What I need to do most importantly is find effective stress management techniques that don’t involve alcohol.

I’ve become far too reliant on the booze and it’s neither effective nor sustainable, and is contributing to increasing depression which is an added problem I don’t need.

Well, I don’t know if the Salvos have a program near you but in Queensland there are programs to support getting clean from alcohol and support through medicare funded programs. There would be programs near you I imagine and giving it a go on your own plus some helpers might work.

What are the chances the salvos also include some god bothering?

monkey skipper said:

Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

I don’t know if this suggestion helps you.

1:if a thought or worry is trapped in a circle or anxiety then sometimes thinking of what you would prefer things be like is a helpful tool. Because you think beyond the fear or worry when you do.

2:Then think of the steps or action to get from where you are to where you want to be.

3: Then read back through all of the steps you thought of and pick one or maybe two things you could reasonably achieve now to make a step in the direction of your goal.

Ta. What I need to do most importantly is find effective stress management techniques that don’t involve alcohol.

I’ve become far too reliant on the booze and it’s neither effective nor sustainable, and is contributing to increasing depression which is an added problem I don’t need.

Well, I don’t know if the Salvos have a program near you but in Queensland there are programs to support getting clean from alcohol and support through medicare funded programs. There would be programs near you I imagine and giving it a go on your own plus some helpers might work.

I think there is some medication support to help with the craving nowadays and something new on offer. You GP should be aware of these options or point you in the direction at least.

monkey skipper said:

Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

I don’t know if this suggestion helps you.

1:if a thought or worry is trapped in a circle or anxiety then sometimes thinking of what you would prefer things be like is a helpful tool. Because you think beyond the fear or worry when you do.

2:Then think of the steps or action to get from where you are to where you want to be.

3: Then read back through all of the steps you thought of and pick one or maybe two things you could reasonably achieve now to make a step in the direction of your goal.

Ta. What I need to do most importantly is find effective stress management techniques that don’t involve alcohol.

I’ve become far too reliant on the booze and it’s neither effective nor sustainable, and is contributing to increasing depression which is an added problem I don’t need.

Well, I don’t know if the Salvos have a program near you but in Queensland there are programs to support getting clean from alcohol and support through medicare funded programs. There would be programs near you I imagine and giving it a go on your own plus some helpers might work.

It’s not that bad, I’m not an alcoholic at this stage, just a too-frequent binge-drinker.

Ditching the alcohol would be easy enough if I have other relaxation techniques in place. I just have to bite the bullet and look into it in depth.

sibeen said:

monkey skipper said:

Bubblecar said:

Ta. What I need to do most importantly is find effective stress management techniques that don’t involve alcohol.

I’ve become far too reliant on the booze and it’s neither effective nor sustainable, and is contributing to increasing depression which is an added problem I don’t need.

Well, I don’t know if the Salvos have a program near you but in Queensland there are programs to support getting clean from alcohol and support through medicare funded programs. There would be programs near you I imagine and giving it a go on your own plus some helpers might work.

What are the chances the salvos also include some god bothering?

not much of that actually getting a person through the treatment program and to the next step is more their focus and I speak with people who have been there done and are helping to support others that are up to that step of change.

There are a lot of programs out there sibeen and they’re not all affordably accessible. there are some that are and it is good no where help is that most people can afford to use as well.

Bubblecar said:

Duck is convinced I’m HPD. I would pay good money to swap the SPD for the HPD :)

Not convinced of HPD, but am convinced that schizoid is 100% wrong. You keep trying to argue with me; by definition this is inconsistent with a schizoid. They just do not care, they would not bother.

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

Duck is convinced I’m HPD. I would pay good money to swap the SPD for the HPD :)

Not convinced of HPD, but am convinced that schizoid is 100% wrong. You keep trying to argue with me; by definition this is inconsistent with a schizoid. They just do not care, they would not bother.

Bah, you’re talking in silly stereotypes.

how about yoga at home and meditation at home there are a lot of resources to use at home these days,

Bubblecar said:

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

Duck is convinced I’m HPD. I would pay good money to swap the SPD for the HPD :)

Not convinced of HPD, but am convinced that schizoid is 100% wrong. You keep trying to argue with me; by definition this is inconsistent with a schizoid. They just do not care, they would not bother.

Bah, you’re talking in silly stereotypes.

And you’re overlooking the entire definition of “secret schizoid”. For all you know it doesn’t matter to me at all that you’re wrong. It matters to Bubblecar because he’s a stickler for accuracy :)

monkey skipper said:

how about yoga at home and meditation at home there are a lot of resources to use at home these days,

Yes there are many possibilities.

Bubblecar said:

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

Duck is convinced I’m HPD. I would pay good money to swap the SPD for the HPD :)

Not convinced of HPD, but am convinced that schizoid is 100% wrong. You keep trying to argue with me; by definition this is inconsistent with a schizoid. They just do not care, they would not bother.

Bah, you’re talking in silly stereotypes.

I think it has something to do with having psychiatric manuals on my bookshelves.

sibeen said:

monkey skipper said:

Bubblecar said:

Ta. What I need to do most importantly is find effective stress management techniques that don’t involve alcohol.

I’ve become far too reliant on the booze and it’s neither effective nor sustainable, and is contributing to increasing depression which is an added problem I don’t need.

Well, I don’t know if the Salvos have a program near you but in Queensland there are programs to support getting clean from alcohol and support through medicare funded programs. There would be programs near you I imagine and giving it a go on your own plus some helpers might work.

What are the chances the salvos also include some god bothering?

They don’t in the Brisbane residential programs. Mrs V had a lot to do with that, through Rotary. They had a men’s residential program, and wanted to get a women’s residential centre happening. They came to rotary to help fund-raise. One of the Rotarians (a concreter) kicked it off by putting his hand in his pocket and giving $750,000.

I was gobsmacked. I knew Paul had done well, but you couldn’t tell by looking at him. He dressed like me and had a non-pretentious car, etc.

ANYWAY ENOUGH ABOUT ME, FOR CHRISSAKE!

Let’s talk about other people’s problems :)

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

Duck said:

Not convinced of HPD, but am convinced that schizoid is 100% wrong. You keep trying to argue with me; by definition this is inconsistent with a schizoid. They just do not care, they would not bother.

Bah, you’re talking in silly stereotypes.

I think it has something to do with having psychiatric manuals on my bookshelves.

Thanks for the free consultation then but you are still talking shyte.
ie: Duck said:

Just by way of an example; roughbarked displays the enthusiasm of a schizoid.

;)

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Duck said:

Not convinced of HPD, but am convinced that schizoid is 100% wrong. You keep trying to argue with me; by definition this is inconsistent with a schizoid. They just do not care, they would not bother.

Bah, you’re talking in silly stereotypes.

And you’re overlooking the entire definition of “secret schizoid”. For all you know it doesn’t matter to me at all that you’re wrong. It matters to Bubblecar because he’s a stickler for accuracy :)

Now there is something interesting, do you refer to yourself in the third person frequently?

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Bah, you’re talking in silly stereotypes.

And you’re overlooking the entire definition of “secret schizoid”. For all you know it doesn’t matter to me at all that you’re wrong. It matters to Bubblecar because he’s a stickler for accuracy :)

Now there is something interesting, do you refer to yourself in the third person frequently?

Do you aggressively “analyse” random strangers on the internet frequently?

roughbarked said:

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

I think it has something to do with having psychiatric manuals on my bookshelves.

Thanks for the free consultation then but you are still talking shyte.
ie: Duck said:

Just by way of an example; roughbarked displays the enthusiasm of a schizoid.

;)

Flat and non-confrontational.

Bubblecar said:

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

And you’re overlooking the entire definition of “secret schizoid”. For all you know it doesn’t matter to me at all that you’re wrong. It matters to Bubblecar because he’s a stickler for accuracy :)

Now there is something interesting, do you refer to yourself in the third person frequently?

Do you aggressively “analyse” random strangers on the internet frequently?

You extended the invitation publically

Secret Schizoid
Sense of Personal Doom

Psychiatry, in part is a study of human behaviour. In an evolutionary sense none of these identified patterns of behaviour are actually disorders.

> do you refer to yourself in the third person frequently?

Constantly.

mollwollfumble said:

> do you refer to yourself in the third person frequently?

Constantly.

Asperger known trait. Others do it to.

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

Duck said:

Now there is something interesting, do you refer to yourself in the third person frequently?

Do you aggressively “analyse” random strangers on the internet frequently?

You extended the invitation publically

Secret Schizoid
Sense of Personal Doom

Psychiatry, in part is a study of human behaviour. In an evolutionary sense none of these identified patterns of behaviour are actually disorders.

I wouldn’t say “publicly” (but I’d spell it correctly).

Both of these threads were posted while drunk, on a little chat forum as a rather embarrassingly self-indulgent communication with a few friends.

The “personal doom” thread, while an accurate portrayal of my frequent state of mind these days, was actually (and ironically) a product of the state of stress I was feeling because people would soon be entering my house. And these people were loved ones I’ve known all my life, and I knew I’d be happy having them here, but the very prospect of having other people coming into my house created enough stress to turn my drinking session into a brooding sense of doom.

That’s the schizoid for you. I’m happy to splash snaps of my home in the chat forum but actually expecting people in here causes anxiety, until they’re actually here and I’m enjoying their company. But even then I can’t have them staying too long.

The “secret schizoid” thread was prompted by me feeling inadequate in reassuring kii that she was welcome in this forum. Also, although most people here have presumably long assumed I’m a mental case, I thought it was probably time to reassure them that this is true :)

The very fact that I can now talk openly about being a “secret schizoid” means I’ve improved somewhat, but it also means I feel safe here and also confident that I can leave if necessary, and continue being a secret schizoid in the privacy of my own home.

> Both of these threads were posted while drunk

I’ll forgive you.

mollwollfumble said:

> Both of these threads were posted while drunk

I’ll forgive you.

I’m still drunk now, or I’d be ignoring Duck :)

Attention to detail (spelling) which is an Asperger trait. You also run anxiety, which is another AS trait.

This is an combined version of Baron-Cohen’s Empathizing Quotient (EQ) and Systemizing Quotient (SQ) tests.

https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/EQSQ.php

Duck said:

Attention to detail (spelling) which is an Asperger trait. You also run anxiety, which is another AS trait.

This is an combined version of Baron-Cohen’s Empathizing Quotient (EQ) and Systemizing Quotient (SQ) tests.

https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/EQSQ.php

Damn. He’s got it all.

sarahs mum said:

Duck said:

Attention to detail (spelling) which is an Asperger trait. You also run anxiety, which is another AS trait.

This is an combined version of Baron-Cohen’s Empathizing Quotient (EQ) and Systemizing Quotient (SQ) tests.

https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/EQSQ.php

Damn. He’s got it all.

:)

So many letters after my name.

sarahs mum said:

Duck said:

Attention to detail (spelling) which is an Asperger trait. You also run anxiety, which is another AS trait.

This is an combined version of Baron-Cohen’s Empathizing Quotient (EQ) and Systemizing Quotient (SQ) tests.

https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/EQSQ.php

Damn. He’s got it all.

He also has a very interesting grasp of the English language which can also be a trait of AS, but again not schizoid.

Question that you may choose not to answer, do you talk out load to yourself. AS quite often do.

Duck said:

Question that you may choose not to answer, do you talk out load to yourself. AS quite often do.

All the time. Doubtless I have Asperger’s as well as the SPD, repressed HPD, manic depressive and the Tourette’s (which I do have, mildly :))

Duck said:

Question that you may choose not to answer, do you talk out load to yourself. AS quite often do.

Good grief…I’ve always talked to myself. And to the magpies. And to the dogs. And to the cockatiel in the aviary. And to my long dead grandpa. I’ve always assume that was normal…

Bubblecar said:

Duck said:

Question that you may choose not to answer, do you talk out load to yourself. AS quite often do.

All the time. Doubtless I have Asperger’s as well as the SPD, repressed HPD, manic depressive and the Tourette’s (which I do have, mildly :))

At least I’ve had my flu shot.

buffy said:

Duck said:

Question that you may choose not to answer, do you talk out load to yourself. AS quite often do.

Good grief…I’ve always talked to myself. And to the magpies. And to the dogs. And to the cockatiel in the aviary. And to my long dead grandpa. I’ve always assume that was normal…

It’s good to talk.

buffy said:

Duck said:

Question that you may choose not to answer, do you talk out load to yourself. AS quite often do.

Good grief…I’ve always talked to myself. And to the magpies. And to the dogs. And to the cockatiel in the aviary. And to my long dead grandpa. I’ve always assume that was normal…

Everyone gets to tick at least one box.

Duck said:

buffy said:

Duck said:

Question that you may choose not to answer, do you talk out load to yourself. AS quite often do.

Good grief…I’ve always talked to myself. And to the magpies. And to the dogs. And to the cockatiel in the aviary. And to my long dead grandpa. I’ve always assume that was normal…

Everyone gets to tick at least one box.

I choose the “eccentric” box please.

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Duck said:

roughbarked said:

Duck said:

Thanks for the free consultation then but you are still talking shyte.
ie: Duck said:

Just by way of an example; roughbarked displays the enthusiasm of a schizoid.

;)

Flat and non-confrontational.

I see that you don’t know much about me at all then. You are making it all up as you go along.

Duck said:

sarahs mum said:

Duck said:

Attention to detail (spelling) which is an Asperger trait. You also run anxiety, which is another AS trait.

This is an combined version of Baron-Cohen’s Empathizing Quotient (EQ) and Systemizing Quotient (SQ) tests.

https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/EQSQ.php

Damn. He’s got it all.

He also has a very interesting grasp of the English language which can also be a trait of AS, but again not schizoid.

What’s being able to speak English got to do with psychiatry?

Duck said:

Question that you may choose not to answer, do you talk out load to yourself. AS quite often do.

was that an out loaded comment?

roughbarked said:

Duck said:

sarahs mum said:

Damn. He’s got it all.

He also has a very interesting grasp of the English language which can also be a trait of AS, but again not schizoid.

What’s being able to speak English got to do with psychiatry?

Asperger’s are quite often articulate and are sometimes prone to verbosity which Mr Car is not.

Duck said:

roughbarked said:

Duck said:

He also has a very interesting grasp of the English language which can also be a trait of AS, but again not schizoid.

What’s being able to speak English got to do with psychiatry?

Asperger’s are quite often articulate and are sometimes prone to verbosity which Mr Car is not.

That’s in any language, surely.

roughbarked said:

Duck said:

roughbarked said:

What’s being able to speak English got to do with psychiatry?

Asperger’s are quite often articulate and are sometimes prone to verbosity which Mr Car is not.

That’s in any language, surely.

The point is that he has not seen a psychiatrist in 40 years. DSM-lll only came out around 1980 (then allow a couple of years for uptake). In analogy, that makes his diagnoses pre the model T Ford. A schizoid is solitary, Flat and content. Nil goals, boring, No desire to learn.

Psychiatry is not only about the number of symptoms, but duration, strength and are they occurring with one or more other symptoms. Level of dysfunction assessed etc.

Duck said:

roughbarked said:

Duck said:

Asperger’s are quite often articulate and are sometimes prone to verbosity which Mr Car is not.

That’s in any language, surely.

The point is that he has not seen a psychiatrist in 40 years. DSM-lll only came out around 1980 (then allow a couple of years for uptake). In analogy, that makes his diagnoses pre the model T Ford. A schizoid is solitary, Flat and content. Nil goals, boring, No desire to learn.

Psychiatry is not only about the number of symptoms, but duration, strength and are they occurring with one or more other symptoms. Level of dysfunction assessed etc.

Truth be told there’s nothing much wrong with me :)

I just drink too much and then post stupid threads.

—————————THREAD CLOSED——————————

Bubblecar said:

Duck said:

roughbarked said:

That’s in any language, surely.

The point is that he has not seen a psychiatrist in 40 years. DSM-lll only came out around 1980 (then allow a couple of years for uptake). In analogy, that makes his diagnoses pre the model T Ford. A schizoid is solitary, Flat and content. Nil goals, boring, No desire to learn.

Psychiatry is not only about the number of symptoms, but duration, strength and are they occurring with one or more other symptoms. Level of dysfunction assessed etc.

Truth be told there’s nothing much wrong with me :)

I just drink too much and then post stupid threads.

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Congratulations for joining the very long line of psych patients that are in denial.

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

Duck said:

The point is that he has not seen a psychiatrist in 40 years. DSM-lll only came out around 1980 (then allow a couple of years for uptake). In analogy, that makes his diagnoses pre the model T Ford. A schizoid is solitary, Flat and content. Nil goals, boring, No desire to learn.

Psychiatry is not only about the number of symptoms, but duration, strength and are they occurring with one or more other symptoms. Level of dysfunction assessed etc.

Truth be told there’s nothing much wrong with me :)

I just drink too much and then post stupid threads.

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Congratulations for joining the very long line of psych patients that are in denial.

Short of customers?

roughbarked said:

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

Truth be told there’s nothing much wrong with me :)

I just drink too much and then post stupid threads.

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Congratulations for joining the very long line of psych patients that are in denial.

Short of customers?

He’s from a Peanuts comic does it in his/her yard

Duck was well-meaning but misinformed.

Just for the sake of the “science” here (and not referring to me – I’m still vaguely schizoid, but basically just a stress-ridden introvert psyching himself up for more involvement in the world), Duck’s portrait of the schizoid as flat and zombie-like doesn’t really accord with the clinical descriptions, in which the classic schizoid wages a constant battle between the safety of a rich internal world and involvement in the external world.

He’s confusing presentation with reality and ignoring the many sneaky ways schizoids find to erupt into the external world and then safely retreat etc.

Bubblecar said:

Duck was well-meaning but misinformed.

Just for the sake of the “science” here (and not referring to me – I’m still vaguely schizoid, but basically just a stress-ridden introvert psyching himself up for more involvement in the world), Duck’s portrait of the schizoid as flat and zombie-like doesn’t really accord with the clinical descriptions, in which the classic schizoid wages a constant battle between the safety of a rich internal world and involvement in the external world.

He’s confusing presentation with reality and ignoring the many sneaky ways schizoids find to erupt into the external world and then safely retreat etc.

Guess that then makes you a nice, harmless, well-meaning nutter.

Occurs to me that if you’ve revealed your “secret” you must be merely schizoid.

Ian said:

Occurs to me that if you’ve revealed your “secret” you must be merely schizoid.

Not necessarily :)

Bubblecar said:

Ian said:

Occurs to me that if you’ve revealed your “secret” you must be merely schizoid.

Not necessarily :)

Mr Car is correct.

I also apologise and retract my last statement to Mr Car on this thread.

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

Ian said:

Occurs to me that if you’ve revealed your “secret” you must be merely schizoid.

Not necessarily :)

Mr Car is correct.

I also apologise and retract my last statement to Mr Car on this thread.

Haven’t apologised to me yet.

Duck said:

Bubblecar said:

Ian said:

Occurs to me that if you’ve revealed your “secret” you must be merely schizoid.

Not necessarily :)

Mr Car is correct.

I also apologise and retract my last statement to Mr Car on this thread.

Apology accepted :)